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You'll cowards don't even make new threads edition


• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdft
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• RIP Mercury and Shakira
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
• Discord: https://discord.gg/qjxGSxY

Previous >>7203011
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trump
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>>7206315
hi im here
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>>7206315
If you've ever made a new thread, you know that you're not allowed to get people to post in it without a 4chan Unobtanium™ account. Only licensed lizard people-approved shitposters get responses.
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I'm sad and lonely, what should i do?
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I'm just glad that Phien is alive and well. That's 80% of my reassons to come to this general.
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>>7206301
I'm not actively transitioning until I graduate from high school

I'm seriously not sure if I should be afraid or not
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>>7206342
gif speaks the truth
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>no work today cuz veteran's day
>still daydreaming about beepbeep
this shit's never going to end, is it?
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>>7206318
i take fish oil, vitamin b12 (cus cypro) and vitamin D (>tfw no sun)

but you really can afford to eat a bit more
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>>7206323
>>7206320
>tfw will definitely be a lot more comfortable if I had a neo vag and not feel like a fake

Women can have penis too etc, but its about what I want!
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>>7206345
omg such a cuuuutteeeeee
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Is going for ffs that's covered worth it if the results look p good??
>>7206339
Idk, boy cuddling put it off while it was happening for me. I didn't even feel ugly.
>>7206346
>tfw class on veteran's day
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>>7206349
Then get srs first if thats what you want.
Really doesn't matter if you can afford them both.
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Anyone else feel uncomfortable when they see women sexualized? I'm not even sure why but during the veteran's day parade today there was a band flag corp that was wearing super skimpy stuff
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>>7206354
>Is going for ffs that's covered worth it if the results look p good??
why wouldn't it be?
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>>7206354
I don't have anyone to cuddle
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>>7206354
Ugghhhhhh.
Also,this class is reminding me how bad I am at drawing anything.
>>7206362
Idk I'm scared. What if they don't fix my face totally???
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>>7206345
TONY FOX BABY OMG
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>>7206361
I feel bad about my body and wish someone would sexualize me.
But I'm extremely subby and I feel bad when I think about how bad my feelings are in the eyes of modern women.
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>>7206349
I had srs first as well, objectively, ffs first is probably smarter, your feelings are more important though

>>7206341
so nice <3 :3
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>>7206364
Post on /r9k/?
They're really cuddly and comfy...
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>>7206232
Made me laugh
You get points too hehe

>>7206263
th-that's what the actual pic is like...
Blame NASA not me
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>>7206368
yeah i took drawing 101 and i was the worst drawer by far
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>>7206361
Yes but I think it's more because I'm a feminist than because I'm a tran
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>>7206352
>>7206369
i know, fluffy foxes make me melt
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>>7206341
same
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>>7206354
>>7206372
>tfw NHS doesn't cover FFS
I pass but I feel I'm not reaching my full potential because no FFS. Is this BDD talking?
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>>7206361
Post pics

>>7206345

>>7206359
Maybe Im worried about sensitivity and other things regarding. Maybe the wait will kill me..

>>7206372
I don't look that bad many hug boxers have told me plus I need a little association to my by past because its important and was my other me..

>>7206381
The nhs does cover voice surgery
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>>7206377
Foxes are scary! They hunt and eat bunbuns...
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>>7206347
ill get some from the pharmacy tommorow
thankuuu Sertii
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>>7206381
thats just being a tranny. BDD is a meme on trannies.
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>>7206377
Foxes have parasites that destroy your liver.
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>>7206375
Iktf...
>>7206381
Idk. I know I really need ffs tho.
>>7206391
This desu.
>tfw objective about your appearance
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>>7206386
https://youtu.be/GibiNy4d4gc
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>>7206374
just draw the missing stars then...
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>>7206368
>Idk I'm scared. What if they don't fix my face totally???
Well, you'll probably never feel 100% okay with your face if you don't right now. It's just cosmetic surgery with a very particular aim, no one ever did a 180 with plastic surgery since there are many mental aspects to how you feel.
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how to pee inconspicuously, in womens restroom? Currently I aim for the part thats not underwater. Whats the correct way, as to not make the noise give you away?
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>>7206401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-GncsZ-UE
How can you put a stop to this?
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>>7206403
But if my face wasn't do many, I'd be okay with it..
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>>7206405
sit on the toilet you hon
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>>7206373
I don't think anyone would want to cuddle me :'(
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>>7206294

What are you studying? I'm studying English in Germany and I'm really anxious about finding a job. English probably doesn't have the worst job prospects since there is always need for translators and bilingual writers, especially in marketing, but preferrably I'd get a decent job for a year or two after finish my first degree just so I could afford surgeries. Preferrably I'd also rather emigrate out of Germany sooner or later, but I don't think that's happening unless a rich husbando or waifu from overseas decides to marry me.
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>>7206410
Of people are willing to cuddle Mr, I'm sure they will for you, anon.
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>>7206387
they aren't guaranteed to help make you feel better, but having a good diet is a big step
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>>7206405
sit or squat and point ur dingy at the edge of the bowl. you can make a little splash at the beginning but if it sounds like a stream you'll give yourself away. exercise kegal muscles..youll need them in desperate times.
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AAHHHHHHHH I'm hungry but too lazy to get food

>>7206402
Did you put neptune there wtf
Your killing me anon

Submit it to NASA for publication it's an amazing picture
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>>7206410
I am sitting shitlord. piss makes sound when it comes in contact with other liquid.
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>>7206406
you can feel their murderous intent though the screen
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>>7206407
your face really isn't that manly, so I'd assume there are mental hang ups hurting you that will still be there after surgery.
there was this euro tripfag that kept posting her face, female both pre and post ffs, complaining about her looks. she kept finding new specific areas to complain about ignoring that the overall face didn't clock and that's all that matters.
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>>7206315
best edition
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>>7206377
i want a pet fox
;-;

>>7206385
No idea what its like.
If it feels like mine does its good choice to go for. ^^
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>>7206377
SLEEPY BABY FOX
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>>7206418
>if it sounds like a stream
i don't understand. you don't pee consistently with a vagina?
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>>7206421
Those damn evil bunnies and their intent to smother people to death.
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>>7206419
Yeah sorry i'm not that good in space geography, maybe neptune is a little more on the left or so.

But at least i counted the colors right!
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What's it like having tits?
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>>7206437
pretty cool though sometimes painful
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>>7206430
Probably more tinklery and less imma firin mah lazor like, you know?
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>>7206405
>>7206430
this is funny to read
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>>7206437
Great and a Lil sore
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>>7206437
It feels good when a loved one touches them...

>>7206425
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>>7206430
The sound of a tight stream of water impacting the surface is a way different sound compared to something a little more distributed
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>>7206439
wait no i don't believe this, i thought it's the opposite? whenever I heard my sister or mom pee it was pretty consistent and quick
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>>7206430
you do (prob???) its just relatively quieter. also womens bladders are generally smaller so its better to be quiet
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>>7206425
>>7206426
moreeee foxies
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>>7206450
>bathroom etiquette
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>>7206454
foxes are so super cute, used to see them in the backyard sometimes as a kid
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>>7206450
Cause they can't control where to pee
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>>7206435
You make me laugh
I like you
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>>7206454
You're gonna kill me
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>>7206455
can't help it desu, I've always lived in small houses

>>7206459
right, that makes more sense. But it still depends i think.
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>>7206445
^=^

>>7206454
foxfoxfoxinaboxbox

>>7206457
Rawr :3
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>>7206461
That's nice, i wish that was true.
However, here is a bigger one just for you!
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>>7206413
how far in are you?
Ive a bachelors in English (Anglistik/Amerikanistik) and am currently working on a masters in history, probably gonna be done in spring or something.
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Has anyone heard from Gloomy?
She went silent on discord like a day after adding me and I haven't seen her anywhere since...
Did she died?
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>>7206470
gay
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>>7206457
mee to
and lots of deer
>>7206464
pls dont die
mtfg needs you Basic
>>7206470
fooooooooooooooooooooooooox
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>>7206476
yes
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>>7206472
>That's nice, i wish that was true
Why do you think I'd lie anon

I love pictures of stars btw so thank
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>>7206478
>tfw see foxes all the time looking through the garbage
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>>7206461
that's the skylab launch right? right there that rocket showed it's raw power by chucking an entire complete space station clear into outer space.
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>>7206477
NOTHING GAY ABOUT ME

>>7206478
Buy me a fox ok?
i promise no bad things happen to it
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>>7206474
I have roughly two semesters left. I'll be done with all credits besides my thesis and my mandatory internship by the end of this semester.
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Decided to try some clothes on again because my uncertainty of my own rights in the future makes me want to die. Can't transition until I'm out of high school.

But anyway, how bad do my shoulders look in this? Yes, I know my hair looks gross. The hot water heater at my house broke this morning...
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>>7206481
where is snicks, I'm worried senpai
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>>7206478
yesss, tons of deer x3

>>7206489
>nothing gay about me
>i promise no bad things happen to it

wow chara

two lies in one post

tsk
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>>7206422
My brow and jaw are fucked up tho..
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>>7206495
your shoulders are fine lol
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>>7206478
I'M DYING OF CUTE
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>>7206372
How old is Phienchen?
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>>7206491
bachelors or masters?
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>>7206484
foxes are to pure for that c:
>>7206489
im poor soz
>>7206497
i think deer are qt
>>7206502
ill save you with cute fox pics
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>>7206506
Bachelor
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Good Morning Mtfg :D
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>>7206491
What's an english internship? Does the college provide it or you have to network it?
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>>7206422
>>7206499
I swear that every tranny that cries about needing FFS is never satisfied when they do get it. Starting to think Laverne Cox was right, that more trannies should be happy with how they look
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>>7206497
I'm being honest.
;-;

>>7206510
I'm "poor" too okay, lets buy a fox together.
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>>7206510
BUT THAT MAKES ME DIE HARDER WITH CUTE
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>>7206516
People should be happy woth themselves!
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>>7206501
How close are they to not being fine?
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>>7206495
your shoulders seem to be 100% okay unless you are really pushing them behind in which case the pic is pointless.

>>7206499
You have an Elanna tier jaw. I don't remember your braw, but women can have prominent brows if it's the only manly thing in their face. Like Jane Fonda.

>>7206516
It's hard living decades with a face you hate, you keep seeing the same thing even when it changes. Also, most people check themselves in the mirror in ways that don't correlate with how you look at other people.

I was reading Epstein commenting on how actresses hate how they look on film and feel like it's a creepy copy, and this was the 40's. That's just how it works.
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>>7206504
phie is a grandma, christmas cake

26

>>7206513
oh, that might be hard. If you dont wanna go for a masters, look if you can get like an apprenticeship thing in a translation firm or something.
youve probably had translation classes, properly doing it is much harder than just studying english (or maybe I am just really untalented)
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>>7206515
As far as I know the college doesn't provide anything in that regard. If they do, it's an exception. The university has a page with internship offers related to different courses of study, but it's sparse when you check for offers specifically for English students.
Actually, I should get to writing applications this month. I don't want to spend the summer not having an internship.
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So are old ppl more or less likely to hugbox?
Old women to be like exact...
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>>7206529
That comparison makes no sense. Hons have a lot more guts than all the closet virgin 20 something year old computer science majors I have run in to.
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>>7206527
pretty far desu, they just look like normal cis woman shoulders in that picture desu.
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>>7206539
>repressed for 40 years
>have guts
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>>7206486
I believe it is the Skylab launch. An impressive feat for sure.
Saturn V was a beast of a machine, it's amazing it's still unmatched in total impulse and launch capacity for any operational rocket despite being designed over 50 years ago

This pic is from the first Saturn V launch iirc

>>7206496
She is safe don't worry. I'm sure we will hear from her soon enough.

>>7206480
:'<
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>>7206533
>youve probably had translation classes

No, but I do enjoy translating. I translated a few German news articles for bloggers on tumblr I followed a while ago.
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>>7206541
When I went clothes shopping with one of my friends she made me get up right in front of her so she could show me her shoulders and mine are basically the same width.
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>>7206495
Get on hrt fast 0.o
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>>7206545
And forgot to mention:

>tfw surprised Phienchen is older than you
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>>7206543
Yes they do. They have nothing to loose and don't give a fuck.
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>>7206550
What does that mean?
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>>7206548
lol why did you have to ask here as well then?

>>7206533
did you do a lot of other stuff before that? 26 doing a master sounds old to me desu
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>>7206539
which comparison? actresses hating their image on screen? I was just commenting that a lot of people dislike seeing themselves and that what you see in the mirror doesn't correlate with how you look in pictures or such.

Or you mean how you look at yourself vs others? I've never seen anyone as close as I see my brow when plucking hairs. Everyone would look creepy that upclose, but I just see myself in that creepy way.

>>7206543
some people use hon just for manly looking trannies.
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>>7206555
They're cowards. They got married and had kids when they knew they were faggots, they ruin lives.
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>>7206522
*pat*

i would give that fox maybe 2 weeks before its tail disappeared
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>>7206564
O.O
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>>7206476
Who is Gloomy to you?
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>>7206566
spooky how good i am at reading your mind, isn't it
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>>7206556
Your body is really fem rn, you got to stop the clock
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>but if they're a poof report them to the reprocessing center and lite their ass up
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11628234
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>>7206573
Oh, that's good. My face ain't great but at least I have that I guess

>>7206558
I figured she'd be biased towards me cuz we're friends.
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>>7206545
properly translating is way harder than just paraphrase translation, if you work in the business, youre gonna have to be able to understand and apply nuances properly I was pretty bad at it, and a lot of other people had problems with this as well.

>>7206558
no. I am just not american.
thats probably pretty much average here. 24 wouldve been the fastest possible.
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>>7206381
Bdd is a tranny meme brought on by the media
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>>7206578
look at his right hand, it's clearly implied that fags and pedos are cool too.
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>>7206569
I promised to be good remember.
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>>7206583
What does Bdd mean? Baddydaddy?
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>>7206581
how can she be biased when she showed you direct proof ^^

>>7206582
im not american either (I study in the netherlands actually) but im 22 and if i didn't fuck up my first year of my master I would be done this year. Im not judging you or anything, just wondering.
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>>7206556
Take your estrogen pills

>>7206559
I don't know. Im a little confused at the moment. I mistook the comment about hons and non hons I guess. Society being materliaistic as fuc..

>>7206562
I hear a lot of black men talking about eastern european women and even talking with eastern european women about being able to trust them. Alimony and baby sitting states.. This country is a mess
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>>7206585
yes i remember, i'm just teasing you ^^

(mostly)
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>>7206583
>Angie
>BDD is a meme
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>>7206582
>properly translating is way harder than just paraphrase translation

Yeah, I'm aware of that. I think I could manage, though. I think my initial problem would be more that I'd be too exact in my translation rather than paraphrasing too much.
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>>7206591
Chara is not for tease!
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>>7206589
I was in school until I was 19, didnt get drafted, and then getting a masters takes 5 years. I took 2 years off to get surgeries and transition, but I am still not slow.

>22
wat
either youre doing stuff significantly faster than recommended or something is very weird

>>7206599
being too exact is impossible tho :D
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>tfw you didn't do shit this morning and look like a man
>tfw somehow you gendered female after you speak
I'm wearing an oversized long sleeve shirt
What,
>>7206516
I'd be okay with ugly and passing. I just don't wanna look like a man.
>>7206527
My jaw is nowhere close to hers desu....
Seriously, like my jaw and brow are bad.
>>7206597
Bdd is a meme.
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Are we special? I used to see myself as a freak which made me suicidal so now I try to see myself as special.
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>>7206587
Big dicked daddies

>>7206597
It is a meme :)
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>>7206599
You would need to translate exactly and not cause any confusion by asumptions

>>7206606
Everyone is special
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>>7206602
>being too exact is impossible tho :D

Depends. I tried translating An Die Freude once and after the first stanza I noticed I forgot all the rhymes lol
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>>7206581
Clearly it's a dominance play
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>>7206602
no, i never said you were slow. You started a year later than me (i started at 18) and took two years off, that explains it all mostly.
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>mom bothering me about trump protestors
>telling me how great america used to be
>mention how great it must have been for everyone that died in the 80s because the government wouldnt supply them with protection against hiv
>mention how all my older coworkers reminisce about beating up fags they would see that dared exist in their town
>'hillarys no better but electing a tv personality to fix the country and get back at people with liberal ideas seems kinda short sighted'
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>>7206613
someone dominate me pls
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>>7206590
My mom won't let me jump the gun on HRT yet and she thinks informed consent clinics are shady and are like the places where opiate addicts often go to easily get painkillers.

But she also doesn't know for sure if I'm trans because crossdressing makes me feel really uncomfortable in the context of anyone but myself
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>>7206623
I thought you were the dom though D:
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>>7206625
She is a terrible mother and should be encouraging you not to give a shit. All confident women have this mindset. Staying in the closet like a pathetic 20
Something year old british computer science major js a terrible decision experience comes from irl.
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>>7206613
She's busy dating some neckbeard and she's older than me
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>>7206621
Seen from the outside, the USA were crap already in the 80s. And Reagan was the ultimate evil. Things don't change that much.
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>>7206625
Feeling weird is fine, I think?
Just do blockers of you're that unsure. Fuck yr mom, just do it.
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>>7206601
>>7206591
is quidxchara a thing again
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>>7206637
nope

still friends though
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i'm going out for a walk, & to get an ice cream sandwich or something.
i'm taking my phone, so i can stay here while i'm out
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>>7206643
I agree, rubbing vaginas together would be weird.
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>>7206602
I got my master's degree right before turning 22...
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>>7206603
this are pics are cis woman uploaded to her facebook, learn to relax.

I do see the chin as an issue, but the face you're making doesn't help.
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>>7206567
Idk
They seemed to really like me and wanted to be my friend
So I worry about them
Esp because she was really depressed before she went silent
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>>7206628
I mean she's accepting but since I don't talk about it much she probably has doubts.

>>7206628
>>7206635
I mean, legally I can get on hormones but I can't drive and I'm somewhat afraid of ordering pills online. Everyone's been telling me that self-medding is dangerous and I'd rather not die.

I talked to my therapist and asked if she could hook me up with an endocrinologist visit sometime just for at least a consultation but god knows they won't do shit to help me
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>be ugly
>get called cute
why do boys do this to me?
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>>7206646
ouch... wasn't expecting so much dysphoria from that...
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>>7206619
maybe, finishing school with 19 was kinda fast, and not getting drafted saved me a year too. most other boys in my classes arent younger than me :3
doesnt matter tho, not gonna get a job probably anyway

>>7206612
:D
I cant into rhymes ;-;
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>>7206634
I would put it in the 70's, that's when the US really started loving to fuck up my side of the continent.
Also: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/how-democrats-killed-their-populist-soul/504710/

Besides that, how are you doing, CFH?
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>>7206627
i changed my mind.

>>7206637
no

>>7206646
i have never rubbed vaginas before
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>tfw no sex in over two weeks
>tfw insane cocklust
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>>7206650
She probably killed herself then.
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>>7206657
>tfw no sex in two decades of being alive
>tfw insane cocklust
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>>7206656
good girl
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>Searching on Google about high BUN Creatinine ratio in blood test back from October 10th
>Stumble into /asktransgender/
>People saying weird shit about their blood tests that make me check the "threads" they've submitted

Some highlights of my dig:

>Someone asking about what music they should use over their 3 week hrt Youtube video,
>MTF wanting a "zero-depth vaginoplasty" where she "only wanting the external bits and not the internal ones" (the comments say this is common and common to want?)
>Some person expressing real fears that clothing doesn't fit them despite two years of hrt... and revealing down in the comments that part of the problem with bras is that sizing tends to "crap out at 48 [inches]"
>The same person admitting they don't want to wear "age appropriate clothes" and want to dress like a teenager; their own words

Well fuck me, mtfg is a bastion of sanity.
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>>7206657
>tfw told Korra to stop complaining about hating guys and spending entire days only posting about how straight she was
>tfw now Korra is just as shitty to have around and it's just a flavor change.
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>>7206653
>>7206656
Girls, ladies, madams, pls

>>7206651
Give it time

>>7206649
>>7206603

Taking selfies in public places helps
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>>7206674
trim your eyebrows, don't do that thing with your mouth and eat, goddammit.
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>>7206657
He sounds like a gay man desu
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>>7206674
>give it time
?
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>>7206677
I should get them thinner then. And make more burgers. And learn to relax more. Wait. Do you mean puruse kryer is that you..
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>so afraid of breaking gender role in too scared to buy conditioner
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>>7206649
Idk, I mean, this one is superold and looks p fucking bad, but like it's still bad.
>>7206651
Then do it! Self-medding is fine. Hella ppl do it.
>>7206674
That profile was done in the middle of a class desu..
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>>7206657
my lust in endless

>>7206667
^=^

>>7206674
Hi Oryx

have baby chara pic
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Gig tomorrow night where I'll be singing and I'm really not looking forward to it

I hate boy voice
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>>7206655
Fine. Living at night these days, it's always been my natural tendency. I'm drafting patterns, blowing through blotters and jotting down formulas. So, a bit busy. Been trying to analyze the smell from one of my more peaceful recurrent dream and why there's a slight vinegar note pervading it stumps me.
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>>7206686
Is kryer a tripfag?
Just don't do that mouth, makes me think of a bothered mom that hopes to make their kids feel guilty and makes me do kissy lips to compensate when I see it.

>>7206688
I'm there with you. It's also bothersome to buy moisteurizing, I've never seen a man in the cheap specialized store.
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>>7206696
can i come watch?
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>>7206690
have you considered that maybe you just raise your chin too much?
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>>7206654
I actually gave it another try for giggles lol

Joy, o Godly spark of heaven,
Daughter of Elysium,
Drunk on fire join we brethren,
Heavenly, thy halidom.
May your magic tie new tethers,
'Tween all things that fashion split.
All men call each other brothers,
Where thy tender wings shall sit.
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>>7206696
why not surprise them with your girl voice?

>>7206701
what happened with that animu dress you were designing for abububu?
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>>7206693
>чapa
>tfw i've been pronouncing it "kara" all this time
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>>7206696
>I hate boy voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5emcbg_wZk
Confirmed for a pleb.
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>>7206704
Kryer is someone important. Doesn't matter, I hope hes still alive. He said I should stop purusing my lips and be calmer. Tfw no bf

>>7206690
>>7206693
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>>7206654
that's so weird tho, is it common for people in krautland to take long breaks inbetween? It sounds insane to me to just drop everything, I would be terrible at everything when i started again.
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Just remember that there is a god somewhere for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJhJdhbtyI8
>>
Reminder you're all beautiful and I adore you all.
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>>7206713
She lost interest, I think, never sent me her measurements. Granted, she was trying hard to lose weight at the time, so measurements probably were something she'd rather not think about.
Right now, I'm wearing on a black feathered bolero with chainmail and real crow parts. Using a full skull for the clasp, notably.
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>>7206705
Depends where are you?

>>7206713
My girl voice is my boy voice but claiming I'm a girl

>>7206716
;~;
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>>7206719
And if you need to ask where, the answer is always: up your ass.
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>>7206714
oh god not again
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>>7206719
God wants me to be a woman.

He told me so.
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>>7206727
Ufufu is still having a hard time losing weight huh..?
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>>7206708
I dunno. How do I do that tho? I don't do it on purpose..
I tried to take one rn, but it's weird. And shitter than the other 2.
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>>7206734
s-sorry quid

"charizard" now makes more sense though
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>>7206736
That was months ago. Haven't seen her on here much since.
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>>7206729
like a 15-20 flight away
is that doable before your gig?
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>>7206696

tfw
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>>7206718
normal people dont take breaks. our school used to be longer, + conscription
takes time
also bachelor takes 3 years and masters 2, tho almost everyone needs like one term more time

>>7206710
defo better than I was at translation :D
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>>7206659
Don't say that
I'm gonna start crying
I hope she's okay
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>>7206742
hahaha it's ok

i just have a good friend named kara and it feels SUPER weird when people call chara that on voice chat lmao
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>>7206740
now your eyes look weird, I guess your face is meant to be in an upwards angle. it's a shame because your frontal pics are really pretty but I can't fully make a mental image of how you look.

>>7206736
probably because at this point all she has left to lose weight is cutting off parts of her body.
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>>7206742
also

charizard hehe
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>>7206295

Better than what?

Sorry for disappearing, I needed to help my dad with something.
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>>7206744
15-20 what?
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>>7206746
waiittt you can't delay going to the army after you finished your studies? Im a greek citizen and practically nobody goes to the army immediately after school.
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>>7206743
Months, years, its not like anything changes much.

>>7206752
Shes like, close to my height and is way less heavy. Wtf
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>>7206714
lol

>>7206717
<3

>>7206754
>>7206742
that is a cute name
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>>7206756
oops
hours
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>>7206759
I think most countries have it right after HS. We took it off in the 90's and it's fine since we aren't winning any wars any time soon.
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>>7206752
I'll get someone else to take it for me when I get home desu..
Idk it's weird.
>>
>tfw hate my penis but have a strong urge to touch myself
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>>7206746
I skipped a year in elementary school and never had to redo a year or term, so I ended up in adult life earlier than needed.
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>>7206746
>normal people dont take breaks

That probably isn't the case depending on what you are studying. A lot of students probably take up a job or prolonged internship inbetween finishing their bachelor and starting their master.

Was spending a semester abroad part of your programme?
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>>7206759
no you couldnt.
but they removed conscription like 2 or 3 years after I started uni.
they never drafted me cause extremely underweight
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>>7206748
Even if Gloomy is dead, her ghost will still care for Neptune even if she isn't aware of it~

Counting colors of an image, hiding a little Neptune with a heart in a huge hubble deep field image and adoring her secretely...

But her heart is broken and she'll never be the same...
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>>7206770
>they never drafted me cause extremely underweight

Also you're a girl.
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>>7206763
Oh well it's in 26 hours so you probably do
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>>7206770
h-how underweight are we talking here?
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>>7206762
>>7206776
Who drew this??
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>>7206783
A ghost
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>>7206777
certainly not, Im just mentally ill

>>7206769
nope they dont. the vast majority of people I know either finished in one go or dropped out, but nobody went to do something else and then continued. some did an apprenticeship before uni tho

>>7206781
I was below 50kg at 173cm
not dangerous, but definitely not strong enough to carry shittons of stuff around on my back
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>>7206788
>the vast majority of people I know either finished in one go or dropped out

Where most of them studying English as well?
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>>7206787
hi ghost
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>>7206787
<3
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>>7206795
no, it was pretty well spread out.
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>tfw no comfy tranny house
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>>7206810
I bet you like having your legs pretty well spread out.
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>>7206798
>>7206804
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>>7206819
>tfw no giant tranny house with each girl being apart of my harem that I lovingly take care of for the rest of our lives
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>>7206819
Worst feel

>>7206827
Best feel
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>>7206776
I wish you'd have said something sooner
Or at least replied to me on discord
I was getting very worried

It's like everyone keeps vanishing around me
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>>7206827
no boys allowed i'm afraid, they can only sleep over
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>>7206755
I was really depressed lately but today not so much
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>>7206820
oh yes ;~;
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>>7206833
But it comes with private chefs and a 5k monthly spending budget as well as your own apartment sized room.
>>7206829
Its ok Basic, you can live there and I won't touch you, I just want to make sure you're taken care of.
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>>7206841
Can my fiancee come too and not be touched
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>>7206841
so you'd be bribing us into taking part in your personal harem? That's a far cry from the safe and cozy house i had in my head.
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>>7206851
Sure, everyone is welcome.
>>7206853
I get your point, but this is just dumb fantasy, how about a normal house full of girls that I just take care of then?
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I just got asked to go to a party and I know they want me in boymode, but in starting to thing I should just be a cunt and wear the goth tranny shit I have
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>>7206831
I'm sorry i felt horrible and i didn't know i would return. I probably should have stayed away from this place, i shouldn't have written to you again. All of this will just make me sadder, but i still love you, even if you'll never return that feeling...
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>>7206862
Sorry if this is rude to ask but..
Do you have a savior complex?
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>>7206862
how about a normal house full of girls without you anywhere near
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>>7206862
that sounds like an equally dumb fantasy, unless you're filthy rich
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>>7206871
Sure, I want to make everyone happy and safe.
>>7206873
Well obviously I would be.
>>7206872
:( But I just want cute girls in my life.
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>>7206836
yeah, me too
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>>7206836
Have you lost your neovag virginity?
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>>7206885
of course!

>>7206883
LEWD!
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>>7206877
>cute
we might have a problem here
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>tfw going to a tailgate tomorrow so I can get smashed and forget about stuff
Good stuff desu
>>7206827
I like the sound of that
>>7206723
<3
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>>7206315
I'm glad the two most annoying niggers killed themselves
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>>7206877
it just sounds creepy as hell m80, there's no sense of companionship there. If it was just the girls pitching in for a common livelihood it would be a lot more fun. Your motives are questionable as well.
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>>7206895
korra's been posting in this thread
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>>7206877
You should make yourself happy before you try to make anyone else happy
Otherwise youll be unfulfilled and resentful
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Wat up /mtfgay?
How are you holding up?
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>>7206901
Fuck
Shakiras autism won't be missed
Now just to eliminate all the other atutists
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rate the latest filing in my anti-trans discrimination case
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>>7206892
Dont be hard on yourself.
>>7206896
Well no shit, anyone who is paying large amounts of money to keep people around is clearly creepy or he wouldn't pay for it.
>>7206904
This is all just fantasy and never happening. Do not worry about such things.
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>>7206911
Mainly with my legs, but chairs are useful.
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>>7206911
Not bad. Long day but it's nearly over
Hbu
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>>7206894
You're the only one who responds to my attempted threadly message. Starting to think its unwanted at this point :(
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>>7206918
w-well, then why did you propose this idea if you knew all that?
>>
>>7206913
I liked it. I wish it was a talk with the judge instead of anon.
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>>7206867

do eet
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>>7206315
how do we stop drumpf??????????????
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>tfw you got far just to realize you're actually cis
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>>7206921
And I am sure they are a fine pair of legs.

>>7206923
Finished the first week at my new job. The impression is overwhelmingly positive, knock on wood.
Just dropped in for some funposting, maybe make some fun of PhattyChin.

>>7206944
You can't stop the Trump. The next 8 years are going to be great.
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>>7206613
https://clyp.it/xx5m0s4e
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>>7206927
possible reactions of course
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>>7206946
i wish was cis
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>>7206952
>tfw it's CURRENT YEAR and still no comfy tranny house

>>7206958
same :(
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>>7206934
In gonna do eet!
Either way, that's the only clean clothes I have lmao
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>>7206958
White Males
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>>7206925
I'm sure other people appreciate it but don't reply. I'm just someone with low self-esteem so I'm thankful for messages like that
>>7206960
I had a dream about a tranny house the other day, it was weird. Plus every trip from mtfg was there
>>7206911
Alright I guess, could be better
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>>7206960
its ok, I'll buy the house. just tell me where to buy it and I'll sign the deed over
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>>7206949
Oh I'm so glad it going well! Hopefully you're finally recovered too?
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>>7206958
>>7206960
Joined the enemy b4 we even revolted 4 hillari baka desu senpai
>>
>decide to lose weight
>first flap of fat that melts covered up my trachea

WELP!
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>>7206966
> it was weird

in a good way or bad way?

>>7206967
now i feel bad for you :( you can visit whenever you like

>>7206973
what did she mean by this?
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>>7206895
theres no diversity in mtfg anymore
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Let me ask LGBT a question, specifically about trans:

How many of you MtF trans respond psychologically to men? What I mean is, if a very masculine man wanted to "take control" of a room socially, do you respond psychologically feminine? Deep down, do you feel "oh good, a man is in charge, I can relax." kind of feeling?

How about one-on-one? Does your mind respond femininely when a man acts a little bit domineering?

Not here to argue, just getting perspective.
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>>7206974
absolute haram
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>>7206960
sauce?

>>7206961
>tfw you come out because you don't have any more clean boy clothers atm
been there
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>>7206979
I don't want to upset you or anyone else by being there though
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>>7206985
yes to both.
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>>7206985
Yes, I don't like being in control and find financial responsibility extremely sexy.
>>
>>7206979
In a good way I guess
One floor was for mtfs and the other for was for ftms, there was a nice open room on the main floor with a piano and some other stuff, plus a Christmas tree (I guess it was December in my mind or something, plus it was snowing outside)
There was one person in charge of making sure everyone got up and took their hrt and checked on everyone, that's around where the Dean ended
>>7206985
Yes and yes
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Should Scully get FFS?
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Is shilling out for an $80 Epilady over a $40 one worth it? Any other good brands with good prices? I'm not sure where the diminishing returns are.

Sick of shaving.
>>
>>7206985
the reaction to a certain attitude is social, not psychological.
if a manly man stood up on the table and told everyone to shut up and listen to him, he would get a very different reaction if it was a viking meeting, a modern japanesse family home, a business meeting or a time out during a basketball match.

also, I'm extremely subby so I'd let him do his thing unless it's terribly retarded. maybe it would be arousing to do something retarded because someone manly but with mental issues order it. I must investigate further.
>>
>>7207010
Compare the reviews.
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>>7206966
Well no one really responding to it really makes me feel like no one cares. So its always nice to see you pop up and help me pretend that I matter.
>>
>>7207007
did she already? she was much hoter in the first 4 seasons.
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>>7206969
I have recovered... sorta kinda. I am currently traveling to work and will be traveling for the next few months. As you can imagine it is pretty exhausting.
I am going to have a relaxed training session this Sunday to see how it's going.
so what's happening in the potato land?

>>7206995
Phatty you little German sausage, how are you? Long time no see. Are you celebrating the dawn of the Trump era?
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>>7206985
ya to both kinda

>>7206992
no sauce im afraid, not even sure if it exists. If you find it i will be very grateful though

>>7206994
being there is quite different than us being in your harem desu

>>7207005
that sounds really awesome desu

>you will never lovingly give an ftm his T injection

>>7207010
from what I've heard it's a pretty big deal to get a cabled one instead of one that runs on battery, because they apparently run out quite fast and the spinning becomes slower.
>>
>>7206995
>>7207002
>>7207005
Okay, let me follow up: Have you been sexually penetrated (orally or anally) and have your feelings afterwards towards your partner been different? Do you feel fulfilled, emotionally closer?
>>
>>7207023
>no sauce im afraid, not even sure if it exists. If you find it i will be very grateful though
iqdb was sueful for once
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2204518
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>>7207025
>not vaginally

yes, but isnt that what everyone feels?
>>
>>7207023
Well, both are cabled. The expensive one lets it run without a cable but I never would because I don't really travel anywhere where I'd be without electricity.
>>
>>7207023
desu I don't even want a harem, Im mono as fuck. Its just a nice big fantasy of "If I was stupid rich"
>>
>>7207025
I've been penetrated vaginally, orally, and anally and feel emotionally closer to them but most so after vaginal.

Take from that what you will
>>
>>7207029
yeah, you could also describe being the one penetrating with the same words. anon isn't too bright.
>>
>>7206992
ayy
>>7207021
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
how are u???
>>
>>7207035
I guess most guys would be happy with the idea of filling their lives with cute girls even if it's not romantic, just looks better than the random matches you get irl. But I don't think most people here count as cute, either physically or mentally.

Besides Phien, she's the cutest christmass cake.
>>
how does this sound, do you think it will get them to look past that I present as a fem boy and not a woman

To whom it may concern,
My name is fayefaye and I am a transgender mtf patient in the VA system. I have previously submitted a packet, about three months ago, of which only the petition to change my drivers licence was returned, and it was returned saying I had a non permanent view of my gender

I thought if maybe I could take some time to outline the steps I've currently gone through towards transition.
I started hrt three years ago
I identify myself full time as my chosen gender and name, and am out to everyone I know and meet
I have had a consistent gender identity since I was a child, but did not know of way to treat it until recently
I have had multiple voice therapy sessions with the va, as well as time with a VA appointed gender therapist
I have had multiple sessions of facial laser to remove secondary sex characteristics
I own very little male gendered clothing, and tend to wear female clothing full time

If you would like to meet me before you fill out or sign these forms, please let me know

thank you,
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>>7207040
>tfw never been penetrated
Should I kill myself?
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>>7206964
go away, sjw scum. this is your fault
>pic related. it's you
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>>7207057
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>>7207026
well damm thanks.

>>7207032
oh sorry, I wasn't aware. If they are both cabled I would look at reviews, but the cheaper one sounds better. Cabled means it's just reliable and does it's job with no extra bullshit *i think*.

>>7207035
what would you gain out of this though? That's the part that's offputting. Companionship?
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>>7207025
>tfw I feel so empty when I have sex with girls or guys I've just stopped having sex altogether
I dont know why. But sexual contact with other people makes me feel so depressed and ashamed.
When it first happened I thought I was gay. But then I felt the same way with guys.
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>>7207067
>If they are both cabled I would look at reviews
Amazon reviews are pretty pointless since everyone just gives it 5 stars and it's not like they are comparing.

Just don't want to blow money on an epilator that isn't any better.
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>>7207067
big hamster pile of cute girls and some satisfaction Im not a monster because I'd be helping them with hrt and whatever else
>>7207054
Phien is a cute but there are plenty of nice cute girls here Some real assholes too but lets not get into that
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dammit, some ban-evading idiot on /a/ got the mobile network here blacklisted for a month.
that's real nice
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pro: i found a building where a lot of us could live and is affordable
con: it's in detroit
>>7207025
>tfw never been penetrated
>>7207018
I'm glad it helps, anon <3
>>7207085
someone keeps getting the mobile network around campus banned and it's annoying to have to use wifi to post
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>>7206870
Well, if you decide to leave at least say something so I don't think you died suddenly.
That's all I ask so don't feel bad
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>>7207057
It reads a bit weird to havemany of the sentences start the same way, maybe you could rewrite them to make it easier to read. I would take out
>I have had a consistent gender identity since I was a child, but did not know of way to treat it until recently
since it doesn't have the same weight as steps you have taken and brings the rest a bit down.
Also, wear a dress for fucking once. Didn't you have good results with some therapist or something after doing that? You have money, buy a dress that will make mtfg die of jellly.

Although I'm not sure a note like that would make any changes. Can't you make your therapist send one for you or something? That would have tons more weight.

>>7207063
bullets don't feel as nice as dicks
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>>7207066
they said my gender is temporary on my paperwork

and I didnt tell them that, it's rood, I dont want to have to do this again every 3 years
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>>7207054
>Besides Phien, she's the cutest christmass cake.

doesnt that translate to

'the cutest that nobody wants?

daily odd compliment?
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>>7207044
Hello pleby.
I am good. A bit tired but good.
Yourself?
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>>7207021
I hope it goes well for you anyway. So will your job require you to travel a lot?
Not much really, traveling to another city for a gig tomorrow where I'll wow everyone with my masculine energy as a frontman. Other than that it's been pretty quiet. Just counting down the days of work I have left.
I'm feeling optimistic about things for now.
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>>7207066
is that mercury?
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>>7207090
How has your day been going? Any good plans coming up other than tailgating like a redneck?
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>>7207098
while the term does imply that, the fact that it's a pretty big market for porn sugests that, if anything, it's a plus.
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>>7207078
looking at them it seems the 80$ version is also good for the bikini line and can be used under the shower? So I would guess it depends on how interested you are in using it at that area.

>>7207080
i could get behind this

>>7207090
>pro: i found a building where a lot of us could live and is affordable
>con: it's in detroit

I'm definitely in we can protect each other from criminals no problem
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>>7207097
can you imagine if your gender was biologically temporary and you had to fill paperwork every 3 years to set it one way or another? it would be a pain in the ass even if people would love to switch it up just to check how it goes.
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>>7207115
but the niggers
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>>7207098
the unwanted feeling is only brought up by the people under the christmass cake banner, no one else can tell if you're 24 or 26.
it's like refering to yourself as an old maid at 26, if anything its a bit commical.
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>>7206372
>tfw I will never get to try phien's new vag
>tfw she will not debase my non white skin with her sexy german accent
>tfw I will never breed her pucci and cuddle up afterwards
Is it so hard to find some happiness????
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>>7207092
>you have to wear a dress to be a girl

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7207098
It really hurts when you ignore me Phatty.
I only call you names and make fun of you and you treat me like this.

>>7207100
No actually I am traveling to work. Sooner or later I am going to have to move, but that still months in the future.
Good luck with your gig. I am sure you'll be covered in panties being thrown on the stage.
Oh and keep that optimistic mindset.
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ok i think i found a new favorite image
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>>7206985

well women aren't inherently subservient or submissive to men.....
so if that were the case for any trans women here it'd be them picking up on social cues or it'd be directly related to female socialization.
it wouldn't have anything to do with their identification as such.

>>7207097

why would it be temp?
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>>7207115
but you'd have to be in the harem, do you think you could stand that?
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>>7207103
My day's been alright, just lounging around campus all day with nothing to do.
Besides visiting family for thanksgiving I don't have any plans coming up besides the tailgate. Just trying to make it to the end of the semester.
>>7207115
>tfw ywn live in a trans fortress with MtF bodyguards defending it
wake me up
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>>7207124
I never said you have to wear a dress to be a girl, I said you have to adapt to weird missconceptions and non-declared prejudices if you want society to work more in your favor than it wants to. It's the same as saying to that guy with the small dick that he has a nice car or telling your boss you're cool doing extra work.
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>>7206985
No I am the alpha and he needs to back the fuck off before I pepper spray him.
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>>7207130
Hey dollface. Your pucci gaping yet? That is my fetish. I wanna tongue it.
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>>7207128
too bad it's just fanart from some 5 season long j-drama by someone who doesn't have any manga.
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>>7207091
I was feeling horrible, how should i know that i'm not going to die?

You know, when you showed me that picture of you i was really glad that we were getting closer and I was just about to show you a photo of me, but then you said that thing about you and Juniper. It was stupid of me to assume that you're feeling the same way for me that i feel for you, but you were the first person who said I love you to me and you did so many nice things to me so of course i fell hard for you, but then suddenly all of my feelings were crushed, when i noticed that you'll never love me like you love her. And I don't want to be just a replacement for Juniper - I could never be as good as her. I tried to hate her, but she is way too nice and she didn't do anything wrong to me. And now everything feels so weird and meaningless.

I don't know what to do about my feelings. It seems impossible to ignore them, to ignore you. But it can't go on like this. What should i do now?
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>>7207126
Yikes. I've never lived more than a 15 minute drive from a job. Traveling sounds like a pain.
Well you know I'll just have a few whiskys alone at the bar before the gig and it'll be fine. Once your vision gets too blurry to see the crowd its easy. As for the panties, i don't think girls like me that much anymore. Maybe I'm just not handsome enough for them
I'm Not doing such a great job and keeping optimistic but heck if I'm not trying.
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>>7207025
if they're gentle, take it at my own pace then i feel safe and it can be really emotionally bonding and i can derive pleasure out of satisfying them
but if they're inexperienced or they just do it for themselves, jam it in or being generally rough, get upset when you ask them to stop it can feel very disorienting and it has the opposite effect
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>>7207136
Well don't overdo it, remember to take it easy so you don't burn yourself out alright? Also if you're looking for guards I hear Grace is a good shot.
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>>7207146
lol
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>>7207137
do I have to look happy about it?
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>christmass cake
>quail
>codorniz, perdiz, estudiante, solterona, prostituta
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>>7207131
i mean its kinda lame but if you'd pay for surgeries and stuff I'd stick around a few years.

>>7207136
honestly this is the best fantasy

>>7207141
..it always is, fuck

>>7207146
>>7207091
;_;
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>>7207146
girl, calm down. this better be about an irl thing because if it was a skype ldr crap I'm gonna be so pissed at you.
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>>7207099
i was p good, i just played all mei's on eichenwalde so i am really fucking mad rn... ;;-;
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>>7207130
in california the doc pics
presents: male female
identifies : male female
and the final check is
gender identity is; established or transitional

they clicked transitional so any change I make reverts if I dont keep applying every few years
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>>7207160
do you want to get away with the things you want?
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>even when i get srs my pee will still sound like a guys
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How expensive are t-blockers? My mom said hrt is expensive as fuck.
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>>7206931
i thought up the one situation where it would make sense to have the judge/court be the respondent and made this before i realized what you actually meant sorry
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>>7207168
fine

like oh my god I love dressesssss I feel so at home in them and makeup, did I say I have a girlfriend? no Im a real woman I want men girllllll
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>>7207172
ur mom is a dumbo, tell her to get spiro from rxoutreach, 20 bucks for a 6 month prescription
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>>7207176
i like it
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>>7207162
all the surgeries you could want, would probably be cheaper to get a live in medical team for it
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>>7207178
>like oh my god I love dressesssss I feel so at home in them and makeup, did I say I have a girlfriend? no Im a real woman I want men girllllll

Haha same
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>>7207181
means a lot coming from you pooks ty
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>>7207172
On QHI 56x50mg Cyproterone is 56€ and 28x100mg Spironolactone is 13€.

The usual dosis is 50mg cypro OR 200mg Spiro per day, depending on how long you're on hrt and stuff, so you can calculate if you can afford it.

84x2mg Progynova is 16€ btw.

Depending on where you live you might get it cheaper on a different site
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>>7207180
Maybe she meant like formal hrt or something?

Spiro is a blocker, right?
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>>7207170
What do you mean "sound"? Is there a difference? I would think the primary thing that makes it sound one way or the other is just how far it falls before it hits the water.
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>>7207172
i got 6 months worth of self medding hrt for roughly around $300
if you have insurance you can get hrt super cheap in the us, my girlfriend was getting spiro for free through her insurance but now she pays like $10/mo for bicalutamide because its more effective, idr how much she was paying for estrogen but it wasn't too expensive either
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>>7207192
>Spiro is a blocker, right?
Yeah, it blocks pee from staying in your bladder.

Word of advice kids, get rid if yourfucking balls and nip the evil testosterone situation in the bud.
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>>7207170
Surgery can't fix stupidity.
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>>7207178
Did you click my clyp way above ∆∆∆^^^^∆∆
I want to make sure you didn't miss it.
>>7206950
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Fucking faykes.
Ugh
I always reply to then without looking
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>>7207152
I promise :3
>>7207172
see if your insurance covers hrt, I get 30 100mg of Spiro for $15
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>>7207176
that's pretty great, although I just meant replacing "Anon" for "Your Honor" in the body of the petition.
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>>7207186
yeh
>>7207203
who
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>>7207204
So pretty much the same as it costs on qhi?
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Is christmas cake that Westerners use unironically now? Isn't that a thing coming from Japan?
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>>7207183
sounds like we have a deal

>>7207172
how old are you? Maybe your mom meant blockers meant for trans kids that are still questioning or too young?

Anyway normal HRT isn't that expensive, maybe she's just memeing you and trying to give you an excuse for delaying it? If she understood your issues then she would realize that HRT isn't far behind food and shelter in terms of priorities.
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>>7207199
>ruining your chance of SRS
no thanks
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>>7207178
You're pretty old to be surprised at the idea of kissing ass and pretending to be sweet to get better results. It's not even a girl only thing.
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>>7207208
Lol. Never mind.
She was legit being a capricious faggot.
Again
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>>7207201
>https://clyp.it/xx5m0s4e
awwwwww it's cute babe
;-;7
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>>7207140

no lol
although it prob will be a bit next week when i see pilot guy again.

>>7207166

that's insane. do they just not think you're tranny enough or something?
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>>7207192
it's and AA, yeah. it's also pretty cheap, and cheaper the legal way if available. Estrogen is cheaper.

>>7207199
Some people need their balls for their future neovag. Or to get punched there because they find it arousing.
Don't be a square, girl! Just drop the ketchup and get some pot!
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>>7207214
no but who
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>>7207108
I am not sure porn stars are liked on the market :/

>>7207122
O-OH
HOW LEWD
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>>7207195
Turns out after srs you end up with a wide ass dribbling urethra ending so its loud as if you were a dude at a ball game will 20 beers in you pissing off the bleachers into a troth
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>>7207210
It's a japanesse joke about women who aren't married at the terribly old age of 24. No westerner would think like that.
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>>7207218
Faye is AGP as fuck, I'm not surprised she's being gatekept.
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>>7207236
>joke

They actually (used) to take that sort of thing pretty seriously.
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>>7207224
they are liked by their specific market, but I was thinking about fanart and doujinshis, where they could draw anything and choose that.
I'm sure at least 60% of all japanesse por actresses are older than 24, no one really cares besides other women.

Also, you were already taken by 24 so you can't be christmass cake.
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>>7207239

i just didn't know that could happen lol
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>>7207241
A mean joke, still attempting to be funny by comparing two unrelated things.

Just like >>7207239
I'm laughing quite a lot, my abs hurt.
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>>7207218
hi edie hru today?
wanna join my /mtfg/ discord server?
https://discord.gg/RuQzq
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>>7207197
I have insurance but I'd still need to get the hrt through it. And everyone tells me people are really gatekeepy about that and I'll have to be some gross man in a dress that doesn't pass for a year or so before they will let me have hrt.

>>7207211
18. She says how teenagers brains aren't fully developed until 20 or so.
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Kys me
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>>7207261
no me
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>>7207148
Traveling is a pain but I think it's worth it.
Don't over do it tomorrow. One step at a time.
Good luck once again, I am going off to bed.

>>7207224
I would call you by your name, but it seems every second transgirl has it.
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>>7207255
if you can find an informed consent clinic you don't have to go through gatekeeping
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>>7207255
>She says how teenagers brains aren't fully developed until 20 or so.
HAve you tried telling her that if you're developed enough to go die in the middle of the dessert helping pseudo centralist muslim terrorist groups you should be developed enough to do pretty much anything?
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>>7207255
ok your mom is bullshitting you, start hrt asap, even if you have to lie to your mom. She doesn't understand so you're just doing what you need to until she does. If you have any money try to get your mones. I'm not sure if qhi delivers to you but their packaging is discrete. Go to /hrtgen/ for more information on dosages and what to get exactly.
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>>7207251
If you need to be taught how to act like a girl, you're not a girl. I'm amazed anyone's upset or confused about it.
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>>7207281
I don't know why you (You)'d me.
I partially agree with you although I also understand that little girls are taught how to be a girl just as much as boys are.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11629583
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>>7207281
That's a silly statement

>>7207266
Oh it'll be fine. It always is

Sleep well
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>>7207281
>mfw I had to force myself to not recoil like a fag if there was a loud noise
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>>7207218
the main problem was probably that no one would sign it because they didn't know the rules in the VA beuracracy, and finally a nurse found someone I never met to fill it out
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>>7207281
>saying that
>posting an agp as fuck rape fantasy pic from world of warcraft of all things
>>
So I'm trying to go the legit route for hrt (usa, therapist>hrt recommendation letter>endo), because I really don't wanna mess it up.
But I'm getting really stressed waiting for the appointments and I feel like I'm running out of time... I wanna start being a girl now.
Did anyone else do this route to get HRT? How did you deal with the stress of waiting for treatment?
>>
I have to rewrite a couple pages and compare another dozen to see if everything is in order or needs minor fixes. It would take me around an hour, maybe less. It should be ready before tomorrow's noon.
Should I get stoned as fuck, watch youtube videos and leave everything for tomorrow morning?
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>>7207275
She says that informed consent clinics tend to be shady and they're often where druggies get their painkillers and shit from
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>>7207243
I was taken at 23, but I am still unmarried

and I dont wanna be in porn, I want my bf to like me, but hes only one year older ;_;
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>>7207281
I'm sorry I was forcefully beaten every time I acted girly until I lost a lot of my habits

Also if you don't think really interesting and suave people don't practice in a mirror to get things down, you've obviously not been on that social level
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>>7207293
I used to scream like a girl and everyone made fun of me.

>>7207299
there really isn't anything to mess up unless you have absurdely high E from the get go (in which case you might have breast cancer in 10 years if your health sucks).
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>>7207301
your mom is bullshitting you really hard, if you're 18 you can sign those papers right? Just take a bus and do it on your own.
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>>7207298
lich kings pretty hot tho cmon
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>>7207299
I did it the legit way, except I did it at an informed consent clinic so I walked out with a prescription to go fill after my first appointment.

If you can't find one of those, self-med while you wait for the legit way to wrap up. It's just too important to wait. Then quit 10 days before the first blood test, when you finally get an appointment.
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>>7207303
I'm just saying that most (irl) women in japanesse fantasies fall under the CC banner, so it's more of a girl on girl teasing than a real bane.
I'd say that for westerner standards being taken is as good as you can be at that age if no one is pregnant.
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>>7207252

i'm okieee. and yeah sure! i'll go on in a sec desu.

>>7207297

oooooooooooooh i see. well, shit.
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>>7207287
>just as much as boys are
I don't remember being taught how to be a boy. I remembered learning how to mimic other boys out of a need to blend in when in reality I learned how to mimic girls more easily because it felt normal.

>>7207292
It's kinda logical actually, but I can see where you're coming from.

>>7207293
when I tried to play shooters with friends, I would jump and yelp every time I died.

>>7207298
What? I don't see a rape fantasy, I see Sylvanas being tormented by Arthas. It's obviously non-cannon, because he ripped her soul out of her body when he captured her, but you know.

Besides, even if it was a rape fantasy, that would be proof of me being trans, because I'm currently avataring Sylvanas.
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>>7207300
no!

do at least half of it now, THEN get stoned as fuck

>>7207301
I hope you know that's complete and utter nonsense haha
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>>7207150
Not sexually, but psychologically. Let me explain:

Let's say you're in a social setting with lots of people. You meet a man. He talks about himself, and shows interest in you too. Let's say he's likeable and attractive.

He seems to instinctively "take charge", that is "let's sit over there" and seats you on the inside of the booth, while he sits outside. You meet his friends and he introduces you. He and his friends do most of the talking for a few minutes, and their "presence" sort of fills the space you're in. He makes it clear to them that you're receiving his attention, and they're not going to interfere, that you're "with him", (at least for the time being).

He puts his arm on the back of the seat behind you. In this scenario, do you feel "protected"? Do you feel a want or need or excitement at being "protected" by him? Does this scenario make you feel more or less feminine?
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>>7207299
I literally just ordered meds as soon as I realized, and then when I final got to one they wanted to wait two months before estrogen and I was just like

"Id really like to get off the illegal meds I'm on, could you prescribe me today"
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>>7207299
I went down this route, but I wasn't super desperate to start hrt right away because I was still scared to start and by the time I was my therapist was willing to write the letter. The only other thing I can think of to reduce the stress is to think that waiting for those appointments is just part of the process and it won't be long before you get on hrt and it'll be fine
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>btfo after drinking just two beers tonight

Is it possible that your alcohol tolerance gets worse over time? Last year I used to drink so much

>>7207311
Don't you mean "pretty cold"? I mean, he is the lich king
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>>7207309
A clinic for that is like 3 hours away. Cincinatti or Columbus. Can't remember which.

>>7207318
To be fair, she's in her early 50's and didn't really notice any signs of me being trans before coming out
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>>7207320
Being a woman is more about being social, it is definitely not about being protected by a man
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>>7207332
Cincinnati and Columbus are more than 3 hours away from each other, are you in between or something?

I go to the clinic in Cleveland, but I'm assuming that's much further for you
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>>7207317
>I don't remember being taught how to be a boy.
I have a niece and a nephew, they are a little bit more than a year appart, both really young. There is the color of the clothes they get, the toys they get (my brother was really against her getting cooking set toys and housewife crap, she still got half a dozen), the way the parents relate to each (they get more cuddling from the opposite gender, more expectatives from the matching one), the things that they get reprimended for (nephew is allowed to be more on the breaking side of things, niece is allowed to be more on the drawing stuff where she shouldn't side), the things they get congratulations for doing. And they are pretty much babies, on of them can't even talk. You were indoctrinated from day one.
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>>7207332
that doesn't sound too far, 6 hours in a bus in order to be done sounds like it's ok, in many countries people have to travel for 20+ hours to get to a place that can maybe give them hormones after years of gatekeeping. Just go.
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>>7207329
Well, yeah... How long have you been on HRT?
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>>7207317
Hey, you want to come play hots with me? I'm almost out of my game.
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>>7207317
I've had to practice mannerisms, posture etc. It's all just transitioning.
Like Faye was saying, getting anything feminine beaten out of you really fucks with being able to internalize it without effort.
And it also makes you train yourself to appear effortlessly masculine
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>>7207318
>do at least half of it now, THEN get stoned as fuck
b-but I already have the youtube page open!
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>>7207352
*sigh*

very well anon, very well, get stoned as fuck i suppose
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>>7207340
Basically this a lot of people who work with transgender people like to share stories about watching parents with a boy and a girl child, yelling at the girl for raising her voice and telling her she's pretty when she smiles, while the boy is running around screaming and hardly talked to.
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>>7207146
Did you create that character? We can share Neptuna.. She's too good to keep to myself..
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>>7207317
I wish I could have allowed myself to relate to girls as a kid. Too bad my mom exploited my deep fear of abandonment to turn me into a puppet with no sense of self value beyond the expectations of others. I think if I had gone into therapy earlier, they would have diagnosed me with BPD.
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>tfw you spend the morning training someone at work with your deadname
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>>7207343
Not at all. I was on hormones very briefly but shit happened and now I'm stagnating, for various reasons
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>>7207320
>He and his friends do most of the talking for a few minutes, and their "presence" sort of fills the space you're in.
Minutes? Like 1 or 2? Or more like 10 or 15?
I would completely stop listening to them after maybe 5, smile and look at something in the distance while wanting to be home.
If after that he touched me in any way, like an arm around the shoulders, it would probably be a bit of a jumpscare.

But the scenario does sound feminine, just because it falls under what society would call feminine.
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>>7207372
oh

that time in my life is the time i look back on with the most regret by far

you should fix that asap

but ANYWAY

I dunno then, HRT will reduce your tolerance a bunch but if you aren't on it then hm.

Did you just not drink for a while? Tolerance dies off
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>>7207329
Yeah, E makes you weaker to alcohol for a while.
Spiro also makes it hit harder because you tend to be dehydrated.
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>>7207342
Is that you in that photo?
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>>7207359
hey Faye, don't you wanna be my sugar momma?
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>>7207383
yes, I actually played in Game of Thrones :^)
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>>7207359
Both kinds of behavior were discouraged for me. My parents didn't let me be outwardly girly except around my friends, but they certainly curbed any try at acting like a filthy animal like small boys do.
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>>7207320
as long as we're talking like 2-3 minutes of conversation that's engaging or fun to listen to

I wouldn't feel protected, but I would feel comforted

it wouldn't make me feel more or less feminine but it sounds extremely cozy and i want it now pls
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>>7207332
>and didn't really notice any signs of me being trans before coming out
They never see it if they don't want to, do they? My mother was the same way.
Fight back with logic and reason. Stay calm; don't let emotion get to you. She'll come around eventually if you're cool-headed about this.

>>7207340
Fair point. You're referring to assumed gender roles, right?
What I'm talking about is the role-models you look up to and imitate as you grow up, not just the initial things you learn like, "I'm a boy, so I should like P, Q and R". I not only had primarily female friends until I moved and gender roles were reinforced, but I also continued to have female role models as I grew older, and I related with how girls felt faaar better than with boys. The other boys even realized this and didn't fight me as much as their friends.

>>7207347
I've gotta go eat dinner with my friend soon :/
maybe when I get home? or tomorrow?

>>7207349
but
didn't you ever slip?
Even when you were forcing it, didn't people ever point out how awkward it is for you to not do something genuinely?

>>7207368
I just made female friends easier. The girl that lived next door to me in elementary school was my best friend until I started getting bullied for it.
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i have a nice hot cup of ginger tea
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>>7207377
>tolerance dies off

The thing is, I never really stopped drinking. It's just gotten easier and easier to get drunk or buzzed
>>7207380
Makes sense, but doesn't really apply to me atm
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Today i have a productive mindset. But I know that when I close my eyes and fall asleep this part of my odentity will be killed, replaced by a basic gratification module. I don't want to delete my current self to be replaced with that. What do I do
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>>7207399
>tfw never had any role models
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>>7207399
No problem, just message me when you want to play, as long as I'm around and not playing something else with friends I'll probably be down to play.
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>>7207383
it's valq
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I love you /mtfg/
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>>7207393
That's just good German parenting right there
>>7207329
The higher your estrogen the more your p450 enzymes from your liver are repressed and the longer it takes for your body to synth alcohol, your estrogen level affects it more as your testosterone gets repressed
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>>7207414
>>7207383

do i have to post a picture from the actual series
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>>7207393
Yeah, I had something like that too. No touching your hair too much, no getting too dirty; no watching/reading girly stuff, no doing violent stuff.
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>>7207420
Isla was in game of thrones?
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>>7207420
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>>7207404
Masturbate
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>>7207410
sounds good :3
I might finish the LotV story this weekend. Never did it last fall; I was too exhausted after binging the HotS story.

>>7207408
You mean you never looked up to anyone, ever??
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>>7207420
why is valq holding angie's face like that
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>>7207416
i love you tooo
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>>7207391
holy shit, that moustache
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>>7207399
Of course I slipped but that's when it got beaten out Yknow?
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>>7207430
Never in the sense that I wanted to emulate their behaviour or adopt their ideals. Probably explains why I was so directionless though
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>>7207419
I'm French, though. My sister was raised the same.
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>>7207399
Pretty much all of my friends in elementary school were boys, although at the time I didn't have many friends at all. Actually, I only had one friend I made myself, and the rest were primarily the friends of my brother, but I could never fully relate to any of them. When my best friend talked about boy things, it always felt like he was teaching me something, rather than exchanging himself with me. I had massive social anxiety as a kid (still do!) and I had a huge fear of rejection of girls as a kid. Not on a romantic level, just on a general, platonic level. Looking back, I think part of that was that I was scared of not being accepted as feminine. Because when I did eventually make female friends, it felt a lot easier to act like them, share their interests, relate to them... and to myself, really.
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>>7207430
it's kinda hard. I thought some of these women were super cool but never allowed myself to think of them as role models, because I'm a boy and boys have men as role models. I never could think of any man i wanted to be like so I just ended up "not having role models".

>>7207434
cis women have hairs all over their face, they are just really small and blonde. Some women have them slightly darker and might need to shave or laser them away if it gets too bad. It's why laser on face is insured for women in many countries.
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>>7207399
(I'm the second link)
I still haven't seen the little kids reach a socialization stage so I don't have their experience to see how they are guided through stuff. In my personal experience being with girls wasn't really that easy, the boys assumed I was a fag in elementary and middle school. After that I just reacted badly to pretty much anyone, and when I talked with random girls I assumed they were making fun of me in some way I wasn't getting.

I do agree that once you accept your trannyhood it should be more or less second nature to see how women behave and mimicking it. But you shouldn't assume everyone has an easy time with that. I'm pretty sure the people that get it really quickly are some kind of reverse autist, instead of being unable to get social ques they are agresively understanding them.
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>>7207400
But it wasn't cum.

>>7207427
when I masturbate all my creativity and motivation goes away. if I do it too early it can ruin a day.
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>>7207314
okedoke here's a perm link since i think the other was temporary
https://discord.gg/pNWQ2S7
it was p comfy and active last night
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>>7207451
>cis women have hairs all over their face, they are just really small and blonde
yeah, but it's usually not that noticeable in someone that young and with a fair complexion

i guess it can't really bother her that much if she's okay being photographed with that though
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>>7207453
>>7207451
>>7207450
>>7207439
>>7207437
sorry all, gotta go. Might reply later. Baiiiii
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>>7207408
>tfw I look back at masculine role models in my youth and now I realize I just wanted them to fuck me.
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>>7207451
I totally had role models. Women, real or fictional. Often with a strong, masculine side, because, hey, that was the 80s. Madonna, supermodels, even anime women like pic related...
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>>7207460
i dont drink cum
makes my throat feel gross
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>>7207431
I kek'd irl
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>>7207460
Sounds like you need more scented candles and enya

>>7207466
I kinda know that feel, except instead it's more that I talked about dicks a lot more than normal
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>>7207463
I had a friend in HS that had sideburns all the way to the bottom of the face, really thin but long and easy to notice on the sunlight. She was hot af so it never affected her.
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so this is probably an incredibly stupid question, but am I supposed to swallow estrofem or hold it under my tongue?

I wish it would just hurry up and get here already
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>>7207463
i mean idk, i knew plenty of girls in school that had a slight mustache, but then again i grew up in greece and many had a darker complexion. It's not impossible though, genetics are weird like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>7207464
have fun!

>>7207470
yeah same, but I didn't see them as role models, more as like "cool women i kinda secretly look up to and would like to be sorta". Like i thought Jeanne d'Arc was super cool and all but never dared to admit to myself that I saw her as a role model. That would be gay ofc.
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Cis lesbian here, I recently started dating a qt MtF and she seems really self-conscious about her height now. I think I may be making it worse because I'm 5' 5" and she's 6' 1" and the difference is really noticeable when we're together. I don't know if I should say anything, because her height truly doesn't bother me, but I hate that it's causing problems.
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>>7207477
(both are me)
>Sounds like you need more scented candles and enya
atm I write for a living, and I always fap with extremely expansive and detailed fantasies. when I finish I've been developing characters for over an hour and it feels as if I had already worked a lot.

>except instead it's more that I talked about dicks a lot more than normal
In my case at the time I though they were cool and wanted to be like them, now I think back and I would be more than okay with sucking their dicks while they were doing the things I liked in them.
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>>7206544
>She is safe don't worry
thanks senpai, was going to an hero if they weren't
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>>7207337
Huntington, WV

>>7207342
I think my parents would notice if I was gone for 6+ hours... And don't I have to pay money or something once I go to the clinic?
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>>7207146
I mean idk what to say I guess

I'm sorry you got the wrong idea
I didn't think the things I was saying were being taken so seriously
I tell all my friends that I love them, because love has many different shades and many different feelings. I can love one person in one way and someone else in another, but I didn't mean to like lead you on.

To be honest, it seems like you've gotten way too tangled up in your feelings and in how you see me, and it would do you good to sort yourself out.

Also can you please just respond on discord? You don't need to leave or shut people out of your life just because of conflicting emotions. If we all did that then there would be like 5 people left in mtfg
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>>7207481
It should say what kind it is in the box or that paper that comes inside.

>>7207483
>I think I may be making it worse
well, that's a pretty common thing. Ideally she should be feeling more love than shame, but one doesn't take the other away.
I'd suggest not bringing it up, but trying to say something nice when you think she might start feeling particularly bad.
Dysphoria doesn't go away permanently, the idea is just to calm it down as much as possible when it gets bad.
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>>7207470
I wanted to say I didn't have any role models, but rewatching the Simpsons after starting my transition, I really related to Lisa Simpson on a deep level. I think this wasn't anything new that I had discovered, but rather something I had re-discovered. I had always seen myself as the intellectual kid in a pretty uneducated family, and I think her character influenced me in being openly interested in complicated subjects and sticking to my views no matter what other people say.
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>>7207483
>tfw 6'2"

kill me now

>>7207489
you can lie to your parents and tell them you're going somewhere else, that's always possible. As for money, I'm not sure because I'm not familiar with the details of how informed consent works in ameriland. Someone else will have to answer that question.
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xd
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>>7207482
Who's in the pic?
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I'm legitimately terrified. I'm in that short moment of clarity but I know it will it will be gone soon, a momentary pause to a disastrous path.. soon I'll have to sleep and when I wake up this state of my mind will be gone, replaced by a guaranteed failure. Please help me
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>>7207485
I don't want to share information that she might want to keep private, but just know that she is getting the help she needs now.
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>>7207502
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faye_Marsay
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I am very sleepy but not tired if that even makes sense
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>>7207483
Tell her she is a beautiful princess and kiss her on tippy-toes.
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>>7207424
lool
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>>7207504
Sit down in bed as long as possible just reflecting on your actual possitivity and seeing why whatever you're thinking right now is the best way. Tomorrow, when you wake up, try to remember how certain you were now and trust old you.
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>>7207492
>If we all did that then there would be like 5 people left in mtfg
sounds like a good first step to make mtfg great again
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>>7207499
But you're Dutch. Isn't 6'2", like, borderline dwarfism?
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>>7207505
tell her that I miss her
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>>7207525
i mean people are taller than average but I still feel like i would be more confident in myself if i was a few inches shorter. It wouldn't have to be a lot less, but if I could be like, 5'9 that would be amazing
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>tfw a customer stops her order to comment on my voice
Apparently my voice is beautiful and should be in radio, to some.
Dunno how she gendered it but I must be doing something right, hey?
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>>7207483
I'm 5'11 and gf is 5'2 people think it's adorable, don't beat yourself up she's going to have issues about her appearance regardless
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>>7207538
post voice, preferably relating some recent news
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>>7207538
You train with a pop filter on your mike, slot of trans girls voice end up being amaze because they actively know what they sound like
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>>7207538
women in radio tend to have low raspy voices.
every single woman I've told that they should do voice work hated their voices, take that as you want.

How did the day go?
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>>7207538
new alex jones??
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>>7207530
>5'9

That's a good deal less than 6'2".

I don't mean to make you feel insecure, and I realize that this can be a difficult thing to get over, but I think it's also relatively easy to accept compared to all other things that give us dysphoria.

Do you pay attention to how many women you walk past that are as tall or taller than you on a daily basis? I think that sort of thing can really help make you feel better about yourself. I know it does for me.
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>>7207548
seconding this
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something new from clip.
this time.... it's gone musical

https://clyp.it/l43uupdh
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>>7207538
Great to hear you're making progress, graisu!
Keep up the good work.
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>>7207538
Do you sound like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fgmvZVrZq0
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>>7207555
>Do you pay attention to how many women you walk past that are as tall or taller than you on a daily basis

yes, this is the only thing that has made me able to deal with it somewhat effectively
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>>7207548
>>7207556
https://clyp.it/fxem0bve
>>7207549
>You train with a pop filter on your mike
Is this good or bad?
>>7207551
>take that as you want.
/shrug
It's something I've always gotten at work, even when doing full on guy voice. Perhaps it's just how I talk, not sound.
>>7207553
https://clyp.it/uow1h0r3
>>7207559
Thank you <3
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>>7207570
I do the same, but I always notice how much longer their legs tend to be :/
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>>7207557
For someone who has such a creepy ass stare, you have a surprisingly pleasant voice
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>tfw horny but gf is at work
:c
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>>7207574
It shows you care enough to buy a radio quality set up
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>>7207575
i just tend to notice that their feet aren't monstrously massive like mine
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>>7207579
Voice is something I really want to get perfected
I wanna be cis tier and able to sing some day.
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>>7207574
>https://clyp.it/fxem0bve
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>>7207574
You sound great, still a little faggy rather than fully female but with a bit more work there won't be a hint of man left in it.
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Hey Faye bby American stocks are at record highs <3

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-critic-warren-buffett-says-stocks-will-continue-to-rise-2016-11-11
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repression doesn't work, and unless you are super lucky or rich
you can't catch up after the fact
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>>7207586
I have no idea what that picture is supposed to mean but I assume it's not good.
>>7207591
<3
Thanks Tiff, I appreciate it!
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anyone here get the vocal surgery?
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>>7207591
How do I improve my voice, though? Do I just speak in a high voice until it feels more natural?
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>>7206315
How do I get Alice chan to fuck me? Every time I talk to her, she acts like I'm super creepy. Is she just a cunt?
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>>7207589
same memory. I used to dance to maroon 5 and nsync with my sister when i was young and then her and my dad started making fun of me. what was the song?
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>>7207574
>this is the end, nobody is listening to this line anyway
I'm always listening.

Also, that's a very nasally accent.
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any cute girls wanna FROT??
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>>7207576
:P
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>>7207581
that's a good one! I get that all the time!
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>>7207568
https://clyp.it/ao4ech5t
>>7207604
https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
>>7207613
>Also, that's a very nasally accent.
I'm very nasally, sinuses are always bad.
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>>7207607
>How do I get Alice chan to fuck me?
she's already fugging someone though, you'll have to break them up first
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>>7207623
Is she really? Fuck. Is it a trip?
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>>7207617
i fail to see how it's good, finding shoes at size 46 is impossible
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>>7207614
frot?
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>>7207607
why am I there
>>7207614
i like frotting
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>>7207599
Anytime <3

>>7207604
That's part of it but the less important part, and if you do it wrong you'll just strain your voice. The important thing is to get your resonance right, if you can figure out how to pull your adam's apple back that will go a long way but I still can't wrap my head around how to do it. Beyond that just raise your pitch slightly and listen to cis women to try to mimmick their way of speaking, including little things like rhythm, inflection, and vocabulary. If you can get a voice coach definitely do it, they'll be more helpful than I ever could be.
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>>7207627
>Is she really? Fuck. Is it a trip?
yep, sorry m8
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>>7207574
>https://clyp.it/fxem0bve
It still sounds a bit closer to faggy guy than girl. It sounds way too nasal.
Still, I don't know if you've heard Welcome to Night Vale or Here Be Monsters. Both locutors sound like raging fagots to my non-US ear and both seem to do really well in itunes. I guess americans like that, maybe it sounds less assertive and violent than Alex Jones so it makes them relax and trust.

It was nice to listen to a really long voice clip, most people say two words and expect others to get anything from that.
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>>7207640
Damn. What trip?
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>>7207620
>https://clyp.it/ao4ech5t
it's okay grace, one day you'll be able to speak more than 2 sentences without having a meltdown
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>>7207646
I just cant speak
Even at work when it's really simple I read people's totals backwards all the time every day
That'll be [backwards number] fffffffff
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>>7207632
rubbing benises together
>>7207636
hell yeah!
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>>7207620
I think you got something there with the nasaly
https://clyp.it/xtecxjwx
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>>7207638
https://clyp.it/1lcyn11n
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>>7207642
lissy

she plays bass and she's like 185cm tall, so good luck with that
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>>7207657
Wow no bully wtf
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>>7207661
Shes also a factual Princess
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>>7207656
:3
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>>7207661
i think you and creepy chaser anon are talking about different alices
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>>7205854
>>7205830
eh, my tastes, desires, outlook on life etc. haven't really changed at all since starting transition
I was always a sperg as a kid though so I guess I was never coerced by peers towards stuff that didn't feel natural to me because I had no peers

>>7205977
I like not looking like a sex offender anymore (apart from my eyes)

>>7206203
"persistent" is the word you're looking for

>>7206405
lol just use the disableds
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>>7207604
Some good advices I've heard are to swallow while feeling your throat, and then push muscles until you find a way to keep the adam's apple as high as possible. Practice for hours every day until having your neck like that feels natural, you can notice progress with that much faster than you'd expect.

Then, focus on feeling the reverberation you usually get on your chest in your mouth. That means changing pitch very slowly until you hit the right range between faggy (usually most on your throat and a little bit in your chest) and a falsetto (pushing the pitch artifically high like a cheap power mental singer, not a good one that has actual high range, if you've heard metal you'd know the sound it has).

If you can, it also helps to visualize air flowing towards the back of your head. It's like you're preparing your throat to aim to a certain place.
It's hard to explain, but for some people that exercise is the best way to hit good sounding notes.
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How hard is it to find women's shoes that fit a men's size 9.5-10 foot?
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>>7207607
>I'm creepy
>Why does she act like I'm creepy
>She must be a cunt
Never change, anon, you lighten my day.
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>>7207673
>i think you and creepy chaser anon are talking about different alices
that's likely, there's like fucking 5 of them or something, i can't keep track anymore
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new thread
>>7207680
>>7207680
>>7207680
new thread
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>>7207620
You like crt1t1c4l?
I love you Grace!
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>>7207656
sounds fun
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>>7207665
I'm shocked you'd accuse me of such things
https://clyp.it/mg0rnv1t
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>>7207684
Are you new or something?
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>>7207675
>and then push muscles until you find a way to keep the adam's apple as high as possible
one year later and still failing at the first hurdle
fuck hypotonia
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>>7207694
you sound like such a hon its no surprise your gender is temporary.
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>>7207701
For a long time I hadn't seen you around and I was wondering if everything was okay and hoping you'd come around if anything happened. Now that I have confirmation that you're alive and acting the same I sort of want you to leave please.
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How do you train your voice to sound like Chelsea Peretti?
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actual new thread with title
>>7207727
>>7207727
>>7207727
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