/femgen/ - Tiny nuts edition

>>7113564
This gen was made for me cypro has made my balls so tiny lol.

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So nearly everyone from last thread's poll (http://www.strawpoll.me/11501303) said that they aren't fully satisfied with their results from HRT. Why is this?
Is it that you are in fact satisfied but have planned to go a step further like laser hair removal or FFS? Or did HRT fail to meet your initial expectations?

>>7113633
Hrt can't really fix bone structure even if you start super early and if your bones are fucked it won't matter your going to need ffs.

Hrt cannot fix body hair only in rare cases can it fix that some have said bica can help with hair growth but there hasn't been any evidence posted.

It's not the magic pill people think it is genetics determine your results.

>>7113659
ive gone from 1 day between shaving my legs to needing to shave again up to 3, so ive seen some results. im still hairy af if i dont shave, though.

>>7113641
then you obviously need to transition instead of pretending to be a femboy

>>7113633
Would you pls stop with this bullshit. You're just letting everyone know you got tiny nuts.

>>7113665
tfw your cant decide if you want to have a nasty stubble every next day or just let it grow a bit to be slightly hairy

>>7113665
True it does affect leg and some body hair it just doesn't eradicate it like people think. Same I can go like a full week with out shaving my legs. Wish it was the same for facial hair lol.

>>7113674
I mean you identify as a woman calling yourself a tomboy is a huge clue we are boys we are not women. Those that transition should go to where the other trannies are if you can't pass you probably don't look that feminine anyways.

>>7113614
Have one or are one?

Just curious how often do the hrt users here fap? Cause I know the whole use it or lose it thing but honestly I do it one day a month and I'm pretty sure that has wrecked my ability to top.

>>7113786
So basically you can keep dick functions if you fap regularly hence use your dick or lose functionality and basically have a dick that can't get hard or cum personally I think its bs and hrt destroys your dick either way.

>>7113783
Dont care, anal feels 10x better. I still get hard no problem since I dont take tranny doeses to nuke my balls.

>>7113830
Anal really feels better since starting hrt?
I don't really know shortage of guys where I live and dildos aren't as good as cock. What's a tranny dose?

>>7113868
transbian, get out

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>>7111467
By the way I actually finished reading the book today. Just wow. I am so glad I will have the actual physical copy in case some apocalypse happens rendering all computers useless lool.
>been off of estrogen for two weeks now
W-why? Are you finally having that orchi?

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>>7113883
Im a blackbelt in boxing and you are the one with balls falling off on hrt

>>7112780
You moisturize your boypeen?

Is this common?

Morning qts. I'm /TinyNuts/ because of a surgery when I was younger, so now I have a cute little sack :)

Who /bignuts/ here?

>>7113614
tiny weiners are cute but a tiny weiner with big balls is even cuter

tiny balls are just weird

>>7113847
>Anal really feels better since starting hrt?
More like since I gradually began to enjoy it more even before mones.
25-50mg CPA is typical for MTFs, they nuke test entirely (below normal female levels).

>>7113902
idk but it makes it look nice I think

>>7113905
rly?
what kind of surgery? I also had a surgery and took a lot of meds as a kid which resulted in me becoming fem

>>7113659
>Hrt can't really fix bone structure even if you start super early and if your bones are fucked it won't matter your going to need ffs.

i started in adulthood and still experienced significant changes in bone density and structure

>>7113955
also my bodyhair is almost entirely blonde now, just some thin darker hairs at the top of my thighs and ofc my pubes and armpits

>>7113935
Wait a sec, you're a masc with tiny dickballs?

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>>7113935
>watching teather fighting
>not watching real fighting

>>7113982
nah, I just wanted to say that I have a fetish for manly guys with tiny junks

>>7113968
idk but it did get thicker. i went from a military crop to long, bleached blonde hair during hrt

>>7114005
yee... but you said you're a manlet...
how tall exactly?

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>>7114014
oh, well you're still taller than me :3

>>7114047
>>7114028
>>7114017
>>7113996
this is a bit disturbing 2bh

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>>7114058
>>7114047
>>7114028
>>7114017
>>7113996

>>7114095
all hail the emperor of femgen

>>7113916
>what the fuck am I reading
>tfw no highspeed passanger rail system between major north american cities
fuck 2016 im just tryna slam vancouver boys perfect boipucci

>>7114475
when was the last time you "slammed" a perfect boipucci?

>>7114490
going on 5 years

the boipucci was not perfect tho

>>7114539
how come pham?

>>7114548
he used to do track and field so it actually was pretty good, but I think his attitude is mostly what ruined it

it started as a reaction to the obsession with chasing sex I saw in my family, friends and society in general, but the real reason is probably depression and schizoid personality disorder

>>7114618
upboated xD xD

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Honest question: How unnatractive is it for a femgoy to have a big dick? I'm sitting at 7" but I always wanted a cute set of junk but I got masc ones

>>7114659
I am not a tranny so I don't feel ashamed of my dick. Besides I'm bottom so most guys don't care about it as long as my bp devours their cocks.

t. femgoi with a 7 incher

>>7114673
I LOVE hung bottoms.

>>7114735
I like this picture

>>7114095
NAME!

>>7114792
Thanks Lori.

>>7114901
Huh?

>>7114967
Do you like having your feet played with?

>>7114986
Doesn't do anything for me, but if my partner is into it then sure

>>7113896
Nice my work iPod wouldn't let me download cry to heaven sadly. Lol I wish I ordered my hormones 3 weeks ago and they appear stuck in NYC so I'm out of medicine. Not even sure I could get an orchie without claiming trans status.

>>7113921
I mean I take CPA cause I'm allergic to Spiro so kinda stuck with tranny doses sadly.

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>tfw spending an hour trying to clean yourself
>tfw it kills all desire
>ywn have a nice boyvag free of these problems
why is life so unfair?

>>7115201
this feel :(

my only motivation for wanting SRS

>>7115228
the fuck

>>7115201
ik that feel

>>7115228
Except "boyvags" are arguably worse

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>25, moved back home, living with parents in Deep South
>they ask me not to reveal to the town that I'm a flaming faggot
>I say ok
>my hips have started swaying, I've started tiptoeing.. oh lawd
>only 7 months to go

>>7115402
you gonn get sum redneck dicks in ya sooner or later, son

>>7115402
>Living in America
That was your mistake

>>7115200
Wow that sucks but I don't think I could read it at work considering how many lewd scenes are there. It's so distracting lol.
Smfh f a m. I would be furious with whoever's supplying you.
>Not even sure I could get an orchie without claiming trans status.
Don't see why you couldn't do that even if it's not true. I mean I claimed to be a tranny too to have insurance cover my hormones and idgaf.

Btw I also take CPA and I also have a B12 deficiency from it. Ugh, I wish I had an orchi already.

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Is there hope

>>7115402
tfw no southern belle femboy bf

>hairy as fuck

should i just shave all over every day or bite the bullet and try to withstand epilation

>>7115402
is tiptoeing a gay thing? fuck i've been doing it since i was like 5

>>7115402
>>7115855
Oh fuck I tiptoe all the time without realizing it

I tiptioe'd since I was young but always in a masc ninja way because I like to be stealthy

>>7115855
Fuuuuuuuuccck I still prance and walk on my tippy toes but I thought that was a sign of autism.

>>7115487
Shit sucks senpai like I used to love in-house but they need a new shipping company lol I'd pay double for FedEx express. uh I look super manly and it's so obvious I'm not a tranny I doubt I could ever get the recommendation like with my face the way it is. I tempted to just like inject my balls with everclear but that could be hella risky. Oh and get on fixing that deficiency like taking b12 supplements should help. I'm scared of complete androgen failure or withdrawal can I sue the post office. And oh yeah that blow job scene unnnf I work from home lol who would know xD

>>7115402
>Tfw live in redneckvile scared to go outside.
>Tfw such a ugly faggot I'd most prob get killed
>my social anxiety has reached critical mass.

>>7113564
INRJ, it's time we had a talk. A heart to heart. An honest an open discussion.

You're beyond subhuman. You're a filthy fucking degenerate, probably some mousy kid with red hair that has that icky degenerate look about you.

Why is this important? Why would I point out something that you and everyone else are aware of? Why would I point out something so obvious?

Because it helps explain why your father molested you. It explains the fear you felt as a child every night when your father came home drunk. He would stagger loudly up the stairs slowly in his stupor, and with every step your heart would race with fear knowing what was coming to you. He'd dizzily bust in, almost falling over himself, stinking of piss and rum, sitting on the bed. He'd start patting your head while you shivered in fear. Then he'd look in your eyes and tell you that you were a good boy, and that was gonna spend some special father time with you. He kissed you, first on the forehead, but then he grabbed the back of your head and forced lip-to-lip contact. Your face would itch with his whiskers and his tongue would circle and stroke your own before he would bite softly and playfully on your lower lip.

Then he'd hold you down, and bend you over, pulling down your pants, your round little kid butt with its hole on display. Usually it is an exit, but today it will be an entrance. He's work is penis until your butt, and would begin punching and beating you while he thrusted away.


He'd cum in your ass, and it gave you terrible farts.

That's why you cried at your father's grave so hard last year. That's why you shed so many tears in sorrow of his passing. You miss that, despite him beating you hard enough to give you permanent autism.

It's why you need to kill yourself. To be reunited with daddy. Go, now!

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>>7116080
Wtf did I just read? I mean Jesus wtf.

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Does anyone here actually like wearing a bra?

>>7116890
Do you?

Do you need to wear it?

Is there any way to lose the beard shadow in a context which most society would deem appropriate for a straight normal man to use?
I feel like I'm completely fucked no matter what I do since my face looks awful with a beard/shadow, at least until it matures a bit.

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YOU ARE MEN.YOU JUST WANT TO TURN LIFE INTO EASY MODE

stop this shit faggots you would never pass as a trap and even if then as soon as the guy realizes that you have a dick he leaves you there unless thats his fetish.YOU ARE MEN STOP THIS FAGGOTRY
maybe if you wouldnt look at so much sissy hypno that fries your fucking brain out you could be normal.

IMO it feels really weird having a smaller dick and balls. It's a bit nice to have the smaller balls since they're almost never in the way now, but it just feels weird messing around with my dick or having it played with and it being so much smaller. I do wish the dick was bigger at some times, but I also think it looks cuter now.

I've been popping this shit about 3 years, and I've lost around 1.5-2 inches of length, a good deal of girth, and now when it's not hard it's super tiny.

>>7116890
Not really, it's uncomfortable and for me it feels really weird to wear one. Sports bras do help hide them, and it does lower irritation from movement and holds them down.

I only do it because I have to in order to not look fucking weird in public and while working ;.;

>>7116890
I have that same one. Feels like my boobs are being caressed by angels

>>7116930
>I only do it because I have to in order to not look fucking weird in public and while working ;.;
Same, im a c cup and even in my sports bra its getting hard to hide

>>7116922
Why are you projecting so much? You listen to sissy hypno. We just want to be cute

>>7116945
>>7116946
gtfo

>>7116922
>stop this shit faggots you would never pass as a trap
only trannies in here have the goal of becoming a "trap" like their life is some kind of anime
>the guy realizes that you have a dick he leaves you there unless thats his fetish
you mean the gay guy I would be fucking that likes guys and knows I have a dick? I didn't realize being gay was a fetish
>YOU ARE MEN STOP THIS FAGGOTRY
yea?
>maybe if you wouldnt look at so much sissy hypno
since when was this sissygen?

>>7116924
>this is my preference

why am i such a degenerate

To anyone here on HRT to look cuter, how long after realising that it was an option did you wait to start, Any regrets?is there a decent guide for self medding anywhere?

>>7117228
No guide just learn chemistry and biology and you should be fine.

Does hrt really make the jaw look less defined? If so, how? Redistribution of fat and muscle? I think I look pretty fem aside from my jaw, but even then it's really not very prominent. I have pics if anyone wants, would be interesting to know if you guys think it would be beneficial.

>>7117469
post pls

>>7117469
If you have a strong jawline it might not do much. A lot of women have strong jaws too, but it really depends on it being fat or being bone. Are you skinny?

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>>7117481
On it
>>7117513
It's not super strong, I just like to worry I guess. Also it might be, I'm no expert. Also, yes I'm quite skinny, but toned, and with well developed legs and ass from trampoline. Some of you may remember me from the last thread.

>>7116080
tasty copypasta my man

>>7117469
It does change the face shape slightly my moving fat around, but won't change it very much since obviously hrt won't move bones around. However, the little bit it will to do your face >>7117540 probably would be enough to put you firmly into "butch lesbian" territory.

>>7117577
Yeah not really into that desu. Fem enough as is?

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>>7117540

>>7117647
:* :*

>>7115806
Shave until you get sick of it, then epilate

>>7117953
What's a good eppilator?
Tired of shaving, or at least when I can finally learn how to shave without causing millions of razor bumps.

>>7116946
Why the fuck are you here?

>>7117540
You have an incredibly pretty face for a guy like that twink aesthetic is on point. That being said if you want the trap aesthetic your going to have a hard time fighting bone structure but it's really genetics and if you need it there is always ffs too.

>>7116922
All this projection good lord

1. We are men no one here would say otherwise.

2. Hrt helps us fight masculinization it's necessary for our survival as feminine guys.

3. No one here listens to hypnofetish bullshit you need male to faggot general for that one. Actually scratch that this one probably fills all your criteria >>7116945


4. It will be so godamn funny if a gay man kicked me out when he saw my dick cause I'm gay and gay dudes love dick idiot. We are not fucking trannies dude.

>>7118003
>No one here listens to hypnofetish bullshit

Speak for yourself faggot

>>7117962
Looking online at reviews and such, this one looks pretty awesome: https://www.amazon.com/Braun-SE7681-Silk-épil-Epilator-White/dp/B0077PLNNE/
But it's extremely pricey, so probably won't be getting that until I get a job.

Gonna go ahead and ask this

Answer honestly

Who here has "come out as gender-nonconfirming" IRL?

There are only 3 people in my life (none of them know the others) who know, and that's because I had to ask them to get help acquiring hormones.

As far as any of my family and most of my acquaintances know, I have every aspiration to become the manly man and live up to how I am "supposed to" develop.

>>7118059
I just told family and a few friends that I'm trans but don't really care about pronouns or how they perceive me. I did that for the sake of simplicity because I do have some dysphoria about my body which they might be able to understand. I wouldn't go into all my actual views on gender unless they ask. Coming out as "gender non-conforming" is kind of a clusterfuck IMO because you would have to explain to people all your motivations, understanding, etc

>>7117979
>Why the fuck are you here?
someone posted the same bra as mine and I just had to comment

>>7117962
You want:

1. Waterproof, so you can use it in the bathtub without worrying about ruing it or electrocuting yourself.

2. Corded or replaceable batteries, so that you don't have to deal with a built-in battery that will slowly die over time and start pulling slower and sloooower.

3. More than 60 bucks, so you don't get some cheap POS that will break in 3 months.

>>7118079
Nope you really didn't fuck off back to the male to faggot general. We only wear sports bra to hide our boobs well most of us and some are taking serms so that boobs don't happen.

>>7115794
wait for CRISPR technology to be better understood & developed.

Meanwhile save as much as you can because it will be really expensive.

>>7118048
How often does beard come back after doing this? And on a scale of 1-10 how bad does that shit hurt. Cause honestly I'd rather not get outed as the town faggot and go get laser.

>>7118127
I think Kayla is bullying us, my senpai

>>7115794
Oy vey!

>>7118166
I dunno if it will work on male beard, unless your beard is really thin... I'm not an expert in the topic, hopefully someone has some firsthand knowledge, but because male facial hair is so thick and strongly attached, I think plucking it can be very damaging to your skin. Also, it would hurt like actual hell

>>7118172
Fuck you, I'm not even Jewish

>>7118170
Lol he would since most of us look 100 percent more feminine than him.
Aren't you getting tired of mtf coming in here tho senpai? In the last week we've had circe, red, and now Kayla they could at least drop trip like holic did tho they were btfo.

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>>7118166
11. or worse. Seriously I couldn't even once epilate my legs after spending so much mooneys on a pricey braun. Even thought of it physically hurts.

>>7118200
>he

Maybe you like mtf, maybe not, idk, but you don't have to misgender them desu.

I think it's a little rude of them to come in here like they own this space, yeah. But what gets me about mtf is how they all seem to have a weird fetish of being a dumb girl.

"I have same bra and it feels like angel boobs!" is kinda creepy imo. Most girls irl would prolly be like "dude, I hate bras too."

Err, that said, I'm femboy, but I really like my boobs so far, and I want them to keep growing. Maybe I will go too far and just turn into a girl somewhere down the line. Pls no bully

>>7118152
Um not that guy but what the fuck is CRISPR btw and what does it entail?

>>7118220
It's gene therapy.

Technology really isn't going to be used for trans care in our lifetimes. It's like when people say "just hold out for brain transplants!"

>>7118219
I don't like mtf and misgender lol no you are born a man and even if you cut up your dick your still a man. That the difference between us and the trannies that take hormones we aren't delusional we know we will never ever be a woman and most don't want to be. I hate to say it but you sound pretty tranny to me you want bigger boobs and to be a girl? Like are you trolling do you have any idea how much the world will hate you? Just be a cute boy who hides his degenerate boobs. I will say I agree tho Kayla says the creepiest shit dude like straight up what you would expect from a cross dresser who grew up on sissy memes.

>>7118242
>Trans care

Where the fuck are we???

How do you guys exfoliate your skin? Specifically legs and ass

>>7118250
You sound more trans than me, desu. I want to be pretty, but I didn't say I want to be a girl. Honestly, you lost all credibility when you said degenerate. What's degenerate is self-loathing. If I have boobs because of decisions I've made, I don't want to have to hide them or myself. Boy boobs out with pride, my dude

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the trans narrative and the notion of gender identity itself, but I would perhaps be willing to present as trans rather than to present myself as a boy who is ashamed to have secretly developed boobs and is too bashful to admit even that. It's a matter of social acceptability. Also, cool transphobia. You don't have to dislike trans people to want to be a boy, you know?

>>7118256
We're on the gay board of 4chan talking about using advanced future medical technology to give someone feminine genes.

>>7118205
Did you try epilating underwater?

Most of the reviews on the Braun ones contained statements to the effect of
>TOO FUCKING PAINFUL DRY, but doable underwater

>>7118270
Literally nothing I said could be construed as me being trans lol you on the other hand.

>Maybe I will go too far and just turn into a girl somewhere down the line. Pls no bully
>Just turn into a girl
>Into a girl.

Boobs are certainly degenerate on a boy only reason I have them is I wasn't lucky enough to get serms in my life time. I was lucky and got a cups and thankfully they are not growing but they are hidden 24/7 by a hoodie.

>>7118298
How sad

I'm a boy with boobs, and I like to have them played with. If people ask why I have boobs, I tell them I take estrogen. It's so nice being out of the closet, desu

>>7118336
99% of people dont understand why you'd ever do that unless you were trans, its easier to say 'its just my genetics' and people would sympathize instead of judging

>>7118386
The on the off chance I find a faggot crazy enough to date me I'll say the boiboobs came from risperdalh. The only people that know of my degenerate lifestyle are my mom and dad cause I had complete androgen failure when I tried to stop taking CPA and had to be hospitalized. My mom doesn't care she just doesn't want me killing myself the selfish woman.

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>>7118336
>I'm a boy with boobs, and I like to have them played with. If people ask why I have boobs, I tell them I take estrogen.
That's how you fucking do it man

>>7118386
You tell them it's because you prefer it to testosterone, duh

>>7118416
>complete androgen failure when I tried to stop taking CPA and had to be hospitalized
wow, what the hell is that?

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>>7118219
>>he
>Maybe you like mtf, maybe not, idk, but you don't have to misgender them desu
Wrong thread, dumbass. Mental order ≠ gender and reality>fantasy>>>identity.

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>>7118441
I heard people having serious depression and other mental problems when leaving estrogen therapy. I guess that's one step forward.

>>7118386

that is really manipulative and a lie.
you're not out of the closet if you are lying.

also, nobody is going to believe "its just my genetics"

it's not like there are men with boobs walking around for no reason. they obviously have to take hormones to get like that.

>>7118441
Oh it's fucking bad my man it happens when you try to take yourself off CPA super quick.

Adrenal insufficiency (this is evidently the actual name)

Abrupt withdrawal of CPA can be harmful, and the package insert from Schering AG recommends that the daily dose be reduced by no more than 50 mg at intervals of several weeks. The primary concern is the manner in which CPA affects the adrenal glands. Due to its glucocorticoid activity, high levels of CPA may reduce ACTH, resulting in adrenal insufficiency if discontinued abruptly. In addition, although CPA reduces androgen production in the gonads, it can increase the production of adrenal androgens, in some cases resulting in an overall rise in testosterone levels.[51] Thus, the sudden withdrawal of CPA could result in undesirable androgenic effects.[citation needed] This is a particular concern because androgens, especially DHT, suppress adrenal function, further reducing corticosteroid production.[52]

Suppression of adrenal function and reduced response to adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH) have been reported with CPA treatment. As a result, adrenal insufficiency and hence low cortisol and aldosterone levels and ACTH responsiveness can occur upon discontinuation of CPA. Low aldosterone levels may lead to hyponatremia (sodium loss) and hyperkalemia (excess potassium). Patients taking CPA should have their cortisol levels and electrolytes monitored, and if hyperkalemia develops, should reduce the consumption of foods with high potassium content or discontinue the medication.

>>7118444
Prepare for the horde of people trying to equate kleinfelter's/CAI/etc with the 99.9̅ of "trans" people with no legitimate medical nonbinarity that includes the person that started this discussion

>>7118468
>He's never heard the men with breast commercial.

>>7118468
>it's not like there are men with boobs walking around for no reason
There are, though. Some people have involuntary gynecomastia

>>7118386
That is one technique for staying in the closet (it's what I used to use), but honestly it's much more fun just to straight-up say "I take estrogen" (and if they follow up, say that it's because you prefer it to testosterone, like >>7118424)

>>7118499
Yeah I'd rather not out my faggotry where I live it's a death sentence. Hoodies work fine as do white lies truth is I did take risperdalh for depression. You want everyone knowing and they will think your a tranny go for it.

>>7118444
>Implying trans people are delusional
Trans people want to transition to the other gender. That's it. A delusion is an internal subsitution of reality with a non-truth, and this is simply not requisite for being trans. If you attempt to argue something, you should have a grasp on the basic concepts involved. Right now you look like some retarded 53 year-old facebook meme reposter.

>>7118386
Isn't the obvious follow-up question "why don't you take medication for that?"

>>7118523
Im allergic to the medicine given for that condition perfect response. True cause testosterone makes me literally want to kmys.>>7118523

>>7118533
This is a perfect response to like an occasional co-worker. How about family or romantic partners? Am I to assume you just don't bother with these?

>>7118511
I want to be a girl, I hate being male with every fiber of my being, and I fully sympathize with those who are driven to suicide by this. I would trade down an income class if I could retroactively undo puberty.

But that doesn't make me a girl. And no amount of ANYTHING will. "she" pronouns are fundamentally a flattering lie.

Being trans means you are mentally ill.
Believing being trans means you "are" the other gender in any capacity means you are delusional.

A schizo may live in a world with many voices, they may be "real to him", but that doesn't make it real. Likewise, someone can be a girl "in their head", but that doesn't make them a girl in any legitimate capacity.

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>>7118533
>I am allergic to testosterone

>>7118523
>I do, thats why I dont have D cups
no one really gives a fuck, they are just curious, and gyno is not that uncommon, 100% peole are fine with that answer

telling them that you take E rises much more questions and they will think you are trans or crazy and most likely tell everyone else too

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>>7118489
>involuntary gynecomastia

>>7118558
If you wanted to be the manly man but got fucked by genetics/medication/soymilk/whatever

>>7118539
You're trans, my senpai

I wish people on this website were more intelligent though. I'd love to have a conversation on the topic and inform some of where you are making faulty assumptions. It's clear that your positions derive from heartfelt emotion and not from reason, however, so I'm quite assured by this point that you would not listen.

If we want to be culturally-specific about it, you ARE mentally ill, and you have gender dysphoria. You are literally the same in every way as a tranny who doesn't want to admit that they are trans. So even if you choose to dislike the prevailing cultural trans narrative, you should realize that differences between yourself and trans women are highly superficial in the cases that they even exist.

Would you care to explain why identifying as a woman is a "delusion"? It seems perfectly reasonable to me that people who enact the social role of "woman" in their day-to-day lives are treated as women. Calling a trans woman "he" rather than "she" would seem for most practical purposes to be less functional and a less accurate representation of reality. It is possible that you've simply rejected all notions of sociality, instead privilege only a biomedical (chromosomal) outlook in your personal views, but I would invite you to ask yourself why that may be. And, while this is a bit of a digression, I will leave you with my own personal take on it. Rather than telling people that they "identify" as a gender, a lot of confusion would be avoided if trans people said that the "live as" or "present as" their preferred gender.

That said, trans women ARE male, just like us, but our conversation was about gender and not sex.

>>7118555
>telling them that you take E rises much more questions
Like what?

>I hate what testosterone does to my body and mind
>well, I am a guy, so that question is moot

^ Would cover 90% of stuff they'd want to ask

>>7118598
>Like what?
It would make them consider their own gender stereotypes and biases while encouraging them to consider the implications for identity of medical science in a postpostmodern world

>>7118598
>>I hate what testosterone does to my body and mind
that would sound like a total nonsese to everyone
>oh wow you dont want to be healthy, manly and strong? you dont want to be NORMAL, whats wrong with you?

half of the men I know are even scared of soy cause xenoestrogens meme

>>7118636
I dislike the manly aesthetic and I am strong enough to do everything I need to do without my body's steroids.

>>7118597
>It seems perfectly reasonable to me that people who enact the social role of "woman" in their day-to-day lives are treated as women.
I think this really highlights the fact that the whole "gender identity" thing is not about reality, but about how peoples' perceptions can be manipulated.

"A lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex", as I've heard it described, does not *make one* the other sex.
If a schizophrenic escapes from the asylum, believing himself to be a construction worker, and goes and buys orange safety gear and caution cones and puts them up on the road and loiters by them with a shovel, HE may believe he's a construction worker, passersby may believe he's a construction worker, (even his acquaintances may think he's one, if he does a good enough job of faking it), but that doesn't change reality. He *is* *not* a construction worker. Now, if I'm driving in the car, and there's traffic problems up ahead, it may be a more "practically functional" thing to say "oh, there's construction up ahead"—but there really is none.

Yes, you are right, I do share the same mental illness as trans people. But (to continue the construction worker analogy), just because I want to be a construction worker, just because I feel fundamentally called to do construction work, does not mean that there is currently ANY means of becoming a construction worker. The construction company's not got any applications available; the only place open to me is the costume shop.

>>7118627
This can't be real. Normal people don't think about sjw shit your suggesting they would just think your insane or your a tranny.

>>7118538
Nigga I live in the south and I'm an ugly fucking shit I've given up on romance long ago. When the random I hook up with ask about it I'm like why does it matter just fuck me and forget about me like the rest.

>>7118219
>implying kayla is trans
He's literally an autistic 26 year old sissy AGP fetishist who still lives with his mom and his step-dad.

>>7118219
>"dude, I hate bras too."
Most girls be like "DUDE BRAS LMAO"

>>7118523
Maybe the best thing to do is to fess up and say this: >>7118336 but idk, I once chickened out and said that I have a "thyroid condition."

>>7118677
>treated as
so yeah if you can successfully 'cosplay' as one you'd get treated like one

>>7117582
you're a top qtboi
would snuggle/10

>>7118802
seriously all the random people can fuck off with their curiosity, I have no obligation to tell them the truth or explain anything at all

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Post your boi-knickers <3

Mine :3

>>7118677
Stop conflating sex and gender. I am the anon you replied to, and you failed with definitions by your second sentence. If you wish to have an actual discussion, try again. I did not read through your post, as you did not comprehend mine or try to incorporate an understanding of it into your trite reply.

I do not mean to disrespect you, but I am tired of the low level of rhetoric generated on this site lately, as it is a place where there are many rather intelligent individuals. As a most basic point of entry to this conversation, can you acknowlege the differences between sex and gender? You seem to treat the two inseparably. The necessary distinction is NOT, as you may think, a matter of political correctness, but rather it is the only way to feasibly discuss notions of gender as relating to various manifestations of sex-correlated behaviors. Here we can eschew the lofty academic bullshit that associates with scholarly discussions of social phenomena like gender, but we still have to use definitions properly or we won't even begin engaging in an exchange of ideas.

>>7118990
No dude when weird things happen it's just a "mental illness" like when i say im an attack helicopter xDDD

>>7118990
"gender", as it differs from sex, is essentially just a facet of psychology. We could go round and round with that all day.

>>7118805
Bingo. Just because you think you're one and pass as one (while simultaneously wanting to be one), doesn't mean you are one.

>>7119116
"Essentially a facet of psychology" is a non-ism as written. What are you trying to say gender is? Gender is cultural. Is that what you mean by psychology?

>>7119123
It doesn't make you a female, but if you look, act, and shit like a woman, then you might be a woman

Chicks with dicks are chicks in my book. What difference does it make in a practical sense to anyone you aren't copulating with? Yeah, being trans would suck, but this thread seems to be filled with self-denying trans women now who are caught up on the notion of authenticity. When asking what constitutes a woman, the cultural norm in Western society is to go "well, ovaries and pussy I guess," but this is because we approach the question from a biological perspective (because science is "objective"). In practiced social reality, someone who passes as a woman is a woman.

Soooo
What you fembois been up to?

>>7119215
Putting off applying to college
Playing Link to the Past (superior GBA port)
Drinking coffee
Trying to figure out how to get hormones when I have no job and no friends I could trust to deliver prescription pharmeceuticals
Learning to play CS:GO

The usual

>>7118986

Now take them off.

>>7119215

Trying to figure out what this sextoy is for

>>7119235
Apply now so you don't have to deal with it later. Never played link to the past, don't even play vidya anymore except for the few titles (hype for Dishonored 2 though)

>>7119345
What kind?

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>>7119356

But i think friends and i are figuring it out

>>7119215
taking care of my sick dad while he heals from a badly broken leg

at least i have an excuse to cocoon mode while the hormones work and I lose weight

>>7119382
What is that? Are you supposed to stick it up but?

>>7119394
Sounds cool, I'm pretty much in cocoon mode everyday once I get out of class because I'm just doing homework all day. Need to get back into running so I can go outside at least once a day and lose some weight.

>>7119434
Yeah this. Just ignore them

>>7119382
do you...stick it up your butt and it spins in there like a pizza cutter?

>>7119437
>>7119472

I think we figured it's actually a toy for vaginas.
The bead doesn't spin, tho.
It's all one continuous jelly thing.
Anyways, mystery solved, i guess??

>>7119495
You're still gonna stick it up your butt right?

>>7119511

lol no, imma just throw it back on my shelf and not touch it for another couple of years

>>7119434
This.

>>7119215
having a hard time deciding what to wear tomorrow t.bh

>>7119434
Apparently "Circé" is a Kleinfelter's Person

>>7119705
What are the options?
Better post pics

>>7119717
Ive nothing against anyone who is not tripfagging or tranny-shitposting

>>7117979
OK that's perfect then. I don't want to be a trap, I just want to be pretty and cute. I've started to wear my hair down more now, and it gets really wavy, so I'm working on that qt look. Cheers!

>>7119838
From what I get you already have lower base testosterone so you wont become a masc beast as quickly

>>7118838
Gracias Gracias. I'm glad to hear it. I'll keep working at it.
>>7119857
Very low. I didn't really even start puberty until around 15, and didn't grow any body hair/couldn't ejaculate until 17. One of my testicles was heavily damaged/stunted early in life from not descending and being cooked, so now I have basically one functional nut. Good thing I ended up a faggot

>>7119878
This also made me /TinyNuts/, so I got that qt scrote aesthetic.

>>7119724
eh, rather not
you got some ideas?

>>7119878
Ah thats why you still look underaged at 18.
Curious if your condition affected your orientation, did you feel attraction to boys or girls before puberty?

>>7119924
It probably did desu. Girls before puberty, exclusively and pretty strongly. I should also mention I'm still attracted to girls, but my attraction to guys is rapidly overtaking it. I'm not out to anybody for this reason, because if I outed myself as bi, I wouldn't be surprised at all if I ended up gay.

>>7119931
Actually I shouldn't am exclusively. I would still notice cute guys way more than my friends ever did, I just didn't feel romantic attraction yet. Now it's both.

>>7119957
Shouldn't say*

>>7119957
Same when I was younger I felt the same

>>7119964
>>7119931
So its not just a tranny meme that hormones can change your orientation.

>>7119964
Seems fairly reasonable.
>>7120004
I guess not. I'm on the express train to gaytown.

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>>7120013

>>7120056
Yep that's me. I want to be out though cuz it's hard to start dating on a small town while closeted.

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hey femgen, new here and have a question

I'm nb and want to be more femme looking but my body is incredibly masc. leg hair, chest hair, skinny but broad shoulders / wide jaw.

what's some first steps? get skinnier? shave? will i always be femme-attempting masc

>>7119920
Oversized sweaters are always a fave of mine.
Sucks because I'm on the taller side (6'1) so if I want an oversized sweater it's either L with a good amount of bagginess but my stomach will show easily or XL with crazy bagginess.
Some pants that are for women are also cute. I have done that fit like joggers but look like corduroy and they look nice

>>7120004
I think that taking hormones gives you permission to like the dick, which you might have repressed before hormones.

>>7120107
I didn't take hormones, I just have very low t from medical complications, as mentioned above.

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>>7116890
where else would you conceal carry?

>>7120108
I mean in general

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Electric shave or razor shave? Alternatively waxing.
Which do you guys prefer?

>>7120221
Epilator

>>7120214
Fair enough

>>7120229
but those are extremely painful anon

>>7116890
Sometimes

I don't really *need* a bra aside from some sort of sports bra to hide my pointy nipples. Wearing an actually bra with padding basically just makes them bigger/more shapely so I only do it if I'm wearing some kind of low cut frilly top.

>>7120238
They are for the first few times, I worked up from just a small area and shaving the rest during last winter.

The convenience is worth it once you get over that initial pain barrier.

>>7120238
you're a big boy, anon

>>7120089
you can shave/epilate
but
>broad shoulders / wide jaw
I bet your test/DHT is high too since you are hairy and you will get get bald in 30s
rip

>>7120102
so much this, its hard to find a proper fit when you are tall but basically S-slender bod so its either baggy or too short

What is this place?

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>>7120368
The place for boys whose only purpose in life is to be cute.

>Tfw you wanna be a cute femboy and have lots of anal
>Tfw you also want to be a normal person, work out, get a gf, and live a regular life

>>7120437
So you dress up like girls and stuff?

>>7120459
No that's what >>>/mtfg/ does

We usually dress in a more androgynous "feminine male" aesthetic.

We do a lot of the usual beauty stuff that girls do though like taking care of skin, hair, etc

>>7120467
so you're just a bunch of beta cuck faggots

>>7120474
No we just prefer to be feminine because it suits us

don't come in here if you're just gonna post mean bullshit

>>7120467
You lost me at feminine male m8, got any examples?

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>>7120491
Just imagine a male with feminine characteristics (in terms of facial aesthetic, demeanor, clothing style, etc)

Also a lot of us modify our endocrinology to reduce male secondary sex characteristics/increase female ones

>>7120516
Can't imagine that would get me going tbqh

>>7120537
Not everyone likes it. I reckon most people (even bisexuals) are mostly attracted to dimorphic features.

There's quite a few people that do like the feminine male aesthetic though, lots of bisexual girls and boys and of course all the sweet cuddling with each other.

>>7120448
>implying fems don't get all the girls
the ones that don't like us are either honest or Stacies anyway

>>7119345
kill yourself

>>7118079
you do not and will never begin to approximate womanhood

>>7120563
I don't think I could do my duty as a husband if I was a femboy

>>7120474
Masculinity can only be challenged in those who care to present it. Good try

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>>7118079
You're so retarded it hurts.

>>7120537
They look pretty and you won't fall for the vaginal jew.

>>7120448
>get a gf
stupid breeders, get out of my femgen reee

>>7120578
i think raising a child without unhealthy inculcation of masculinity is a good thing

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It's my 21st birthday next week, /femgen/.
Is it too late for me to become androgynous and be a femboy?

Am I still salvageable if I get on SERMs asap?

>>7120608
No ass and tits though

>>7120638
hormones give these

>>7120644
Isn't that mtf?

>>7120644
Hormones don't give you an ass.
Go do some squats.

>>7120636
Post pics. No way to know otherwise.

>>7120638
Tits are overrated anyways. Ass we have. If you don't have a nice round ass and claim to be a femboi time to nekk urself.

>>7120677
>tits are overrated
t. Non-white

>>7120686
Nope. White. I just never liked tits much, I was always and ass guy. And before you say it's cuz I'm a fag, I'm bi, I just like dudes more.

>>7120686
your on /lgbt dumbass

>>7120716
Even gay guys like tits

>>7120722
Gay guy here.
I prefer DFC but tits are alright.
On femboys I prefer flat chests though any day of the week. I'm one of the people here that thinks tits on boys is disgusting.

>>7120732
I'm not super into boiboobs either. Flat a best. Also why I don't want to take mones, and cuz I'm not a tranny. Love my flat chest

>>7120626
These statements make me want to work out and go back to ottermode. I don't trust these people with the world I want to raise kids in.

What's femgens consensus on Yuri on Ice?

>>7120815
Seems kinda gay

Is there a populated community of traps/sissies I can talk about lewd things with like toys and fucking my ass?

>>7120830
If you want fetish talk go to mtfg

>>7120830
Not sure. We talk about that stuff at times but we aren't traps or sissies. I don't speak for everyone, but that's not the point of the gen.

I just looked into mirror and I realized I look repulsive and not fem at all.

Anyone /sometimes fooled into thinking that you're qt and fem but are actually butt fucking ugly/ here?

>>7120876

Don't let it get to you, anon.
Happens to everyone.
Look again sometime later and try to see the cute.
No use sitting around feeling gross about yourself.

>>7120884
But I fear that it's the reality (and it probably is)
Sometimes especially when I wake up I really do see a teenage looking feminine boy but other times like today a gross post-twink dude with soulless eyes.

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>>7120660

>>7120937
Cute

>>7120937
Hmm, I think your facial structure could. Support it, but you'd need to grow your hair out, and start softening up your skin. If you take care of yourself like a girl would you'll start moving in the right direction.

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>>7120937
jaye, stop trolling femgen again
>2016-10-27
well played my man

>>7120937
You are adorable as a boy. Be happy with whatever you choose to be.

>>7120923

Well, our faces and senses of self change day to day, and even within the day.
What we see in the mirror is a lot more affected by whats in our heads than we think, you know?
Just try and keep a chin-up and build some love for yourself.
It'll do you good either way, really.
Whether you're cute or worn out, trying to feel good is gonna help you.

>>7120961
Not him. But I just needed some fun in my dull life so I couldn't resist.
Everyone is so nice (and new) its surprising.

>>7120876
I look bad or attractive depending on angle. Others confirmed.
Cant do much about it, except maybe surgery.

Hey yall
anyone have any halloween costumes planned? I just finished making my edward scissorhands costume. Pretty happy with it!

>>7120307
rip indeed
welp i guess ill just own it

>>7120970
drop trip you shit this is femgen

are ANY tinychats alive anymore

>>7121041
Don't worry she'll kill femgen just like how she killed gaygen.

Cancer in its purest form.

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>>7120937
Old pictures of faye...fucking hell people are actually replying.

>>7121037
I might go as Dorian grey but the chances of anyone actually knowing who the fuck I'm dressed as is minimal. Plus I'm working on samhain so it's unlikely I do anything.

>>7121041
This I dropped trip it's not bad desu I like being anon it's nice not having everything you post thrown back at you like some creepy ass scrapbook of inequity desu.

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>POBox, Prepaid Card, "Locked PC/phone", or a check
This seems rather excessive.
Is any of this actually necessary? If I use my own credit card and get it sent to my house, will I suddenly be targeted by the police/FBI?

>>7120876
Every single day of my life ffs is a grim reality for some fembois. This is I think some feminine guys suffer body dysmorphia disorder tho I know I don't my appearance makes me vomit.

>>7121123
No

The "locked PC/phone" thing is useless, anyway, because anybody who needs to be told TO use one would not know the proper protocols to actually make USE of one.

You can use your own bank account and get it sent to your house. Prepaid is nice if you are still living with parents though.

>>7121151
Prepaids are nice for convenience sake so you're not asking your parents for their credit cards every time you want to buy something. It's helpful if you're young and don't have your own debit/credit card yet for some reason.

Is it necessary though? If you were to use your mother's credit card, I can't imagine that would make her a target for fraud or something. Would it?

How 2 suppress gag reflex?

>>7121177
Succ more. Get used to it.

>>7121177
Practice, I've heard squeezing your thumb helps but I think that's bullshit. Wish I could help but I'm a natural cock sucker.

>>7113564
>▶Should I go on HRT?
>If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
How much youth can I buy with my sperm?

>>7121177
You just gotta practice it a little bit at a time.
I recommend you play a little game every time you brush your teeth. After you're done brushing, put the brush as deep down on your tongue as you can before you start to gag. Then just hold it there and count to 10.
Do this every day and slowly increment the depth, the duration and the movement.
Over time it will wear the reflex down and you'll be sucking dick like a fucking pro

>>7121382
about 10 years tops

>>7121455
Damn, that's a good deal. I'd have taken 5.

>>7116922
Fem life is confirmed ez-mode. husband gets cushy job he loves, tells me I don't need to work as a bartender anymore.
>tfw you smoke weed all day and dick all night
What's the point in anything else?

ill give u my dirty little secret
dont tell anyone or youll be just another regret

>>7121477
Damn that sounds pretty awesome but I doubt I could enjoy that for very long

>>7119215
Work
Sleep
Coffee...lots of it
Trying to get /fit/
Overwatch, YouTube, hanging out with friends to pass time

>>7121477
God I wish I had a life like that but being an old faggot I doubt I could find a handsome husbando to indulge me. Living the dream anon.

>>7121044
there's always kageshi :^)

>>7122025
wrong general mate

>>7122041
Woops, what's the correct place to post this?
I guess it kinda shows that I'm new to all this.

>>7122044
What was the subject? I think other anon is gone. Also don't use a trip or name in gens. People will ignore you.

reminder that if you don't have long hair, you don't belong here

>>7122676
reminder that if you have long hair, you belong in >>7122411

>>7122760
balding manlet detected
you will never be cute or fem

>>7121463
>I'd have taken 5
Good good. Come over to my office, goi.
Let me turn you into a femgoi.

New femgen? This shit is pretty kill.

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>tfw masc manlet muscle bear with 4 inch dick and small nutsack
>tfw manlet bf with even smaller nuts and balls and shorter

Were in love lads.

:)

>>7123515
>tfw masc 6'4 factory worker with 5" dick and big nuts
>tfw 5'4 femboy manlet bf with a 7" dick and cute little balls, and erectile dysfunction ;-;
At least oral is fun to give.

I'm trying to figure out this whole exfoliating thing
If I buy one of the exfoliating soaps do I need a special scrub? or can I just rub and apply it like a lotion and then rinse?

>>7123515
Matt?

>>7121886
wats kageshi?

>>7123744
loofah does the job when your skin is softened up by hot water
chemicals as the last resort

>>7123910
Exfoliating scrubs are just soap with little plastic beads mixed in. It's not a chemical process.

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Can I get a discord invite pls?

>>7123928
Lol no you are a disgusting trannyv that invades CISlesbian safe zones.

You can't be a transbian and a femboi you have to choose one.

>>7123952
I'm not a transbian and I don't post in cislesgen tho??

I'm a gay femboy.

>tiny nuts/tiny dick on femboys
Stop turning me gay femgen

*squeezes (You)r tiny nuts*
you like that you little boyslut don't you?

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>tfw no tiny nuts

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Whew lads my prescription finally made it today if I had to split my dose anymore I'd need a magnifying glass to take it now I can go back to having my body look like this.

>>7124130
Looks soft anon gj

>>7124130
CPA remains in your body for a week at least

but where is your waist, fatty?

>>7124149
Lol I'm not fat and in the spirit of the topic check out my tiny nuts.

http://m.imgur.com/Z9Dqj4U

Um I've been off estrogen for about a month at 25mgs of CPA back to 50mgs cause not like I could ever top.

>>7124175
Put on some long socks and undies and take more pictures ur qt

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Luv

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>>7124248
Watch him go!

>>7124175
Ayy you got tiny nuts

>>7124264
Ayyyy

>>7124209
Mabye tonight no face pic tho I look like trash. The only socks I have are long and orange and kinda faded.

>>7124288
Do it, that's hot

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>>7124049
Don't squeeze 'em too hard now, they're really sensitive...

6ft+ masc guy here, where can i find qt fems irl?

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>>7123928
pls respond

>>7124288
go buy new ones!

>>7124175
>mutilated
Aww shucks I am so sorry for you, pham

>>7124550
>Tfw poor fag

>>7124607
Yep rip my ability to top jk my balls were always this small.

>>7124400
Come to Tennessee.

>>7124306
Kay will do.

>>7124782
Tennessee is pretty far from Michigan tbqh

>>7124782
>Yep rip my ability to top
I meant to point out that you are circumcised actually

>>7124400
In my bed :3

>>7124858
Anon i want to meet someone in real life to be lewd with

>>7124826
Oh yeah sadly my parents follow Jesus uncut dicks are super hot tho.

>>7124791
Aw you live in a civilized state yeah it's quite a ways away good luck on search.

>>7124988
Michigan is only civilized in some parts

>>7124988
Yeah, that sucks. You should sue your parents lol.
I would let your poor mutilated thing hide in my foreskin, one dick touching another. Too bad you're not near~

>>7125367
Welp my parents are poorer than me. Hmm never tried docking could be fun. Any cuddling would be welcome been long since I've felt a man's arms around me.

is it time for a new thread lads

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>>7125852
Let's find out. Test.

>>7125103
Well I hope your in the civilized part of Michigan I've just heard that you can get ffs covered I think I just hate the Bible belt lol. Any fun clubs where you are?

don't make a new thread until we hit page 8 faggots

>>7125852
I vote yes

>>7125852
Please, I have questions but no one will respond if I post in a dead thread.

>>7126078
you heard the man, somebody get on a new thread
i'd make it myself but I have no cute femgen general pics to use

> Depressed for 3 years
> Started identifying as female online
> Got thigh highs, feel much more confident while wearing them.

Not sure what to do, or where to post this.

>>7126346

New thread

Made a new one m8s
>>7126358
>>7126358
>>7126358
>>7126358

>>7126139
you caused this

>>7126349
>>7126362
which one lads

>>7126385
I made the first one cause no one was making a new thread.

Whatever.

Go the the one with out tranny anime

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>>7126393
>hellsing
>tranny

>>7126333
try agp gen

>>7126427
Thanks anon!