Wasn't trump the guy who ok-ed a mtf into a beauty pageant?

Mike Pence
First Amendment Defense Act
Supreme Court justice short list

inb4 le syrian defenestration maymay

>>7107265
Do you honestly think Mike Pence is going to round up every fag and make them convert their sexuality to hetero? Get fucking real...He's only for conversion FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT

>>7107293
Even that is retarded

>>7107295
Says you. If I wanted help not wanting SSA, id look for it.

>>7107301
I'd say closet gays should get ove their homophobia. Conversion therapy is so wrong from a medical point of view and it brings tons of risk and complication and it fails over time sooner or later.

I'm not a single-issue voter and he's all-around idiotic and proposes morally reprehensible plans, so I'm voting against him even if he didn't discriminate against a trans woman one time.

You may as well pick out one conservative thing Hillary has done and say "Why are you so anti-Clinton here?"

Do fags just look for the worst in people kek christ. Die peacefully in your elderly years or die sooner at the hands of Islam because of Clinton. Simple choice.

>>7107293
"Help, or at least, do no harm" is one of the most basic principles of medicine.

Conversion therapy is harmful to everyone that is subjected to it, whether they want it or not. Repression is not healthy.

>>7107295
>choice is retarded
>everybody has to be what I tell them to be
How are you different from Pence?

>>7107312
Who says you can't be predominantly str8 but have unwanted gay feelings? Jesus, worry about yourself. If you are comfortable being gay, end of discussion. If not and you want to change, there should be a way through therapy. I mean, you'll only know in the end if it worked or not. You at least have to try.

>>7107320
Maybe bc you or a friend hated it doesn't mean Joe Schmo would hate it. It might even save his life, get him a girl and start a healthy, nuclear family. Just sayin

>>7107313
What morally reprehensible plans?

>>7107315
Don't judge us all by the retards.

>>7107337
Kill terrorist's plans, invade and seize foreign lands to steal their oil supplies, expand the use of torture, liberal use of nuclear weapons, and yeah, I'd say the stuff about banning Muslims from entering the US, though I'm sure you'll just say that makes me a cuck.

>>7107346
*terrorists' families

>>7107349
You clearly don't know what good Islam is doing for gays do you...

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>>7107346
Yes, their culture is far superior. Kek sigh

>>7107334
There is no evidence to suggest this, and an abundance of evidence to suggest the opposite. Repression doesn't work for anyone other than bisexuals, and is probably responsible for the abundance of gay pedophiles out there.

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>>7107248
Why are there so many hons here?
Why are there so many millenials here?
Why are there so many trans-trenders here?

Same answer, the Poz. Most of these people are single issue voters who probably don't even know what a "podesta" is.

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literally any gay or trans person voting against trump is voting to import hundreds of thousands of rapefugees who will have no problem murdering them just like they do in their home countries, they've been brainwashed by CNN into believing a democrat vote is a vote for their interests because they're blissfully unaware of the implications.

>>7107346
We'd be killing random Arabs anyway under Clinton, we pay for the oil, torture is fucked, and nukes are weapons like any other.

Unless they're properly vetted, you get kiddie fuckers and rapists and gay-bashers. Fuck that.

Plus, it's my country, why should foreigners get to come in at all?

>>7107361
Evidence from forced conversion, compared to relatively few voluntary conversion.
You're basically banning surgery because cutting people open *usually* kills them.
nigger.

>>7107366
this.

>>7107361
The evidence lies in the many lives that have 'successfully' changed sexuality. Now whether it lasts idk but at least they are doing what they want, just like you are living your life as you want. See, once we try to impose our viewpoints on others it gets fucked up. That's why choice and options should be available, but not demanded.

>>7107377
Thanks for not being retarded, anon. You give me hope.

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>>7107377
i used to be a lesbian, and i'm hetero now. it takes extreme denial not to realize that a solid 30% or more of the gay male community are only prison-gay from being incels, unattractive, socially retarded, etc. that's why "cruising" and "grindr" are A Thing, the proof's in the pudding.

If you're actually gay, conversion shit will do nothing for you. But for a lot of people, a good wake up call and push in the right direction would make their lives a lot happier.

As an European who hears about European politicians every odd day, all the "reprehensible" shit Trump said is really fucking mild in comparison.

I mean if Trump is literally Hitler for the things he proposed, who are people like Geert Wilders, Jörg Haider and Jean-Marie Le Pen?

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>>7107248
I actually admire your loyalty and dedication to go down with the sinking ship.

A curtsey to you, Sir or Madame.

>>7107353
>good Islam

>>7107429
so i can start freely posting anti-islam stuff in here since bashing catholics and christians is fine right? it's all about equality.

>>7107436
Fuck off Sass, when are you getting banned?

>>7107445
Yes, any religion or belief ought to be subjected to criticism, don't believe Fox News

>>7107440
can you explain to me what "good islam" is? i speak arabic and i've read the quran several times in its entirety. believing homosexuals and transgender people should be punished by death is not an extremist islam opinion or some shit in hijab, it's a mainstream and widely held islamic belief.

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>>7107366
>hundreds of thousands
>Hillary's proposed number is 55,000
>She wouldn't even get that
>55,000 isn't even a lot

In reference to "You clearly don't know what good Islam is doing for gays do you..." I was being 100% sarcastic. There is nothing good about Islam and jihadism. (CTRing but with good intentions)

>>7107248
>be Trump
>own Miss Universe pageant
>a tranny wants to participate
>pageant officials try to deny her because "she's a he!"
>based Trump forced to step in
>Daddy Trump shuts that bullshit down, lets her participate
>she wins like 3rd place or some shit

Trannies For Trump unite!

>people are actually defending conversion therapy in the same thread where they are trying to convince people that they totally care about LGBT issues now that they can be used as cannon fodder for the muslim boogeyman

This would be hilarious if it werent extremely sad

>>7107463
Bonus round:

>North Carolina bathroom HB2 drama kicks in
>Trump begins running for President
>the issue is brought up during a press conference
>Trump says trannies can use whatever bathroom they want in any of his properties, resorts/hotels, etc
>Trump says its not an issue and there's been no problems
>Just wants to leave it up to the states to decide their own laws (believes in states' rights)

Trump really doesn't give a shit and respects all Americans (trans or not) equally.

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>>7107454
650,000+ actually, stop getting your news from over-a-year old articles and catlady websites like snopes.
>>7107461
jihadism is an intrinsic part of islam, most westerners don't understand what jihad means, it's an overarching holy war of conversion not limited to violence like westerners believe, but also though control of governments, conversion, and watering down other nations' gene pools.

>>7107463
TRANS
FOR
TRUMP
i dream of being able to call The Donald "daddy" :(

>>7107468
As it was stated, if it's not for you fuck off. It's there for those who want it. There's no harm in that Sertii

>>7107454
And the ones we've already begun taking in are already starting up with their bullshit.

>Twin Falls, Idaho
5 year old girl gang-raped by three Syrian refugee boys who then peed on her after. They recorded the whole thing on a cellphone. The city council, courts and police have since tried to cover the incident up. Twin Falls is one of the many locations refugees are begin sent to.

>Lowell, Massachusetts
A refugee man who had only been in the country for a month sexually harasses a 13 year old girl at a public swimming pool. He continued to follow her around despite being told to leave her alone, asking about her age and wanting to fuck her. He was arrested for forcibly touching her.

Now just fucking wait for when we're taking in as many refugees as Europe. Hillary's goal is 100,000 per year. God help us if she wins and manages to get approval for that.

>>7107353
>>7107359
Nice strawman.

>>7107368
Nuclear weapons of mass destruction are very different from typical weapons that aren't banned by the Geneva Convention.

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>>7107468
yeah dude despite the fact that i'm a transgender woman, i totally only care about LGBT issues so that i can bash on muslims.

or maybe i just see through the bullshit and realize the same politicians claiming to be working for us are directly working against our interests while people like trump have actual sane opinions on these things.

>>7107495
This isn't English 102 gtfo with your made up argument words

>>7107487
Irrelevant

The fact that you believe its a viable "cure" to being gay says enough.

oh sorry i meant to say, as an ex-muslim transgender woman
i can practically feel your blood boiling. i know more about islam than you ever will. fuck you for wanting to bring the evil i escaped into the new home i've found.

>>7107248
We used to love him here. He's a fallen idol.

He used to be pro trans and pro gay, before Clinton ever was.


But he's spineless and sold out all of his ideals and joined with insane fundies for the sake of tasting power. He's vowed to take antilgbt positions and the fundies in his coalition are crazy enough to do that.


Oh and pol is full of demented people who come here and rant about trannies and faggots nonstop, if this is what his movement looks like then maybe it deserves a good whipping.

>>7107507
Didn't say it as a cure. I said it was an option for people who want it. I never said it worked. But that shouldn't stop someone from trying it they want it. Stop being so one sided.

>>7107507
if you truly believe every person who identifies as gay is truly homosexual, you need to go outside and actually meet some other human beings instead of basing your worldview on tumblr circlejerks.

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>>7107463
True.
>>7107471
True.
>>7107366
True.
>>7107293
True.

Daily reminder that muslim immigration is the most dangerous thing for the lgbt-community.

In Dortmund, Germany, three muslim immigrants (so called "refugees") wanted to literally stone two hons. The three men said:
"You deserve to die, whore!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqHK1u7UsQA

Luckily the police came by.

The Donald will work for your safety.

VOTE TRUMP!!!

>>7107487
You're pushing antilgbt laws in the south so that automaticay makes you the bad guy and we have to do everything we can to see your movement crippled by a landslide defeat.


Too bad, we could have been great friends if you'd picked us instead.

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>>7107516
he's literally kicking the fundies and cucks out of the republican party right now. have you spent the past month and a half under a rock or?

>>7107526
You fags take everything so personally and want it all revolving around you. You are a minortiy. This is a straight world. Get used to it.

>>7107361
there is literally nothing wrong with a consenting adult wanting to try conversion therapy

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>>7107526
It's amazing how people will be against their own self interest just because a person isn't wearing the right team colors.

How long did it take to legalize gay marriage? It's because once they fix the issues they use to get you to vote for them, they have no ammo. This is why democrats will never fix anything and the party needs reform. They learned their lesson with gay marriage losing support among dem voters in every state it's been legalized in and don't you think for one second they're going to make the same mistake with LGBT rights.

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>>7107468
>>7107507
pic related


for everyone else, save your eyeballs with 4chanx:
/^!kmdtKea1v6$/;op:yes;stub:no

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>>7107526

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>>7107531
>Makes Pence his VP
>Is kicking the fundies out of the GOP

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>>7107568
>implying the VP serves any role beyond a name on the ticket to pander to that half of the voter base, because Trump gives no shits about fundies but needs their votes to win.

u slow today?

The 2016 gop platform is the most anti lgbt in history.
Don't believe trumps lies it isn't up to him what the down ballot politicians do

"You are not your thoughts, emotions, feelings. The true you is only the awareness of them. - Rupaul

Rupaul recently said that on fb/twitter. Even he knows being LGBTQ is a lie people tell themselves.

Stop labeling yourself as a race, a sexual identity, a gender construct. Do you not know you're a soul within a vessel? Do you not know you're not the body or the mind? You're only the awareness.

Stop roleplaying.

>>7107571
I agree, Pence was only chosen to buckle in 'true' conservatives who were shaky. Daddy Warbucks is in charge.

>>7107575
THIS. It's exactly what the left loves to do, play identity politics.

>>7107579
trump literally said he doesn't give a shit about disagreeing with pence on a lot of things during the townhall debate
literally this >>7107568 anon is trying to prove my point or something i guess?

>>7107574
you know you don't have to vote a straight party ticket right? pretty simple solution to that one.

>>7107495
Strawman means you have to construct a false arguement not posting a real picture of Islamic treatment of homosexuals.

>>7107571
>Says he's going to give his BP power over domestic and foreign affairs
>Also want to appoint a Supreme Court Judge to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges
>Wants to sign in The First Amendment Defense Act

Not a fundie k guys can't wait to see you back track and use the bills title as the reason it's good and talk about how marrigae is stupid anyway

>>7107593
>posts this in response to >>7107359, a real picture of Islamic treatment of homosexuals in the most literal sense possible

>>7107593
??? Read the Koran and tell me if they blow bubbles at gays and give them valentines cards...No, gays are tortured, really tortured, not "American torture/bs tumblr oppression"

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>>7107531
He did that during the primary we loved him
He embraced the value voters platform and bowed to ruin the lives of lgbt people of elected. He sold out

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>>7107248
He also kicked her out and did this on a talk show, retarded /pol/poster
(Her name is Jenna Talackova)

>>7107622
You don't need the government to confirm to you your love is real with a marriage certificate.

>>7107608
>not believing in free speech when it offends your personally held beliefs
>thinking gay marriage is something that should be forced upon the country on a national level, rather than decided on individual basis by the states

k we get it, you're a single issue voter and possibly retarded

>>7107630
wahhhh trump offended me on a talk show, so i'm going to vote for globalism, open borders, rapefugees, and all these other terrible things to feel better about myself

>>7107590
>you know you don't have to vote a straight party ticket right?

That would require them to actually look at the candidate and their policies

>>7107248
>Why are there so many anti trump here?
Because he's promised to stack the supreme court with social conservatives, Mike Pence, he's surrounded himself with homophobic staffers and advisors.

Trump's (often legally required tolerance of LGBT people in NY, e.g. restroom) politically correct platitudes as a New York real estate mogul pandering to eastern elite liberals doesn't come close to outweighing his proposed social conservative policies and his staffers' agenda for the administration.

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>>7107587

People are like russian nesting dolls with many layers of identities they've bought into.

>My race card
>My gender card
>My sexual identity card
>My victim card
>My religion card
>My culture card
>My special privilege card

Gotta peel off the layers until you get to the core.

>>7107649
But you started this thread to say "hey look how lgbt friendly trump is why aren't you voting for him" and then when people point out how he's not lgbt friendly you yell at them and call them single issue voters

I'm gonna love it when Hillary wins and you faggots get btfo

>>7107636
>single issue because debating about lgbt issues on a board dedicated to lgbt issues
>Le i read the title so that must be what the bill does
>Thinking legal marriage is the same as forcing priest to marry you

>>>/pol/

When Sharia law becomes the new normal for USA I've got a 5 story balcony for every fag who voted for Hillary

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>>7107662
>implying i started this thread
>implying i'm the only poster calling you out

>>7107672
>Le i read the title so that must be what the bill does
Le go back to red,,dit. I believe people should be able to publicly voice their opinions on gay marriage without fear of prosecution by the federal government and dookie stains like you. You don't believe in freedom of speech or expression, bigot.

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>>7107674

don't fairies have wings?

even the clinton foundation acknowledges what a disaster the rapefugees will be in their internal emails

just one of many https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/27940#efmAAGAEdAEkAExAF3AGXAKeAMX

>being this ignorant when the truth is right there on wikileaks for you to read, but you'd rather get stroked off on tumblr

>>7107692
I think it has something to do with blindfolding, binding the hands and feet, and tipping them over head first that paralyzes the wings.

>>7107686
>It's called the first amendment protection act what could possibly be in that bill other than protecting muh free speech

No one is stopping you from calling people faggots you faggot, you're not going to get sued for telling someone you think gay marriage is the devil or whatever

>>7107694
these peoples' inability to question their own beliefs in a critical manner is why they probably can't hold a job and need that liberal government nipple to suck on.

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>>7107692
If all else fails, hack them off with a blunt machete

>>7107293
>FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT
yeah, like all those teenagers who have been forced to in those therapy & pressured to commit suicide. you might not been as primitive as ISIS but you're a thread as well.

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>>7107700
I'm actually very familiar with the First Amendment Defense Act (you got the name wrong by the way) so all you're doing is making yourself sound even dumber due to your inability to adapt your shit troll when you realize you're dealing with someone who actually read the thing.

""shall not take any discriminatory action against a person, wholly or partially on the basis that such person believes or acts in accordance with a religious belief or moral conviction that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or that sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage."[1] The bill defines "person" to include for-profit companies, and "discriminatory action" to include "revocation of tax-exempt status, grants, loans, benefits, or employment."[2]"

you're aware that trans people are already not considered a protected class under the civil rights act, correct? so you already can be discriminated against legally in any at-will employment state. you know what at-will employment means right?

>>7107713
From the Pence campaign website: "Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior." He didn't fucking force anyone, all he said was money should be used to fund. Like Trump has stated, there's a difference between words and actions. Get re-edumacated faggot

>>7107248
Trump would have been ok if he'd run as a Democrat. But he didn't.

>>7107729
BUT I HEARD IT ON SNOPES/POLITIFACT/CNN

The Democrat's inability to criticise islam and their habit of framing any and all criticism of islam as "islamphobic" is a very dangerous trend, and one worthy of being taken into consideration when casting your vote.

>>7107732
>>7107543 >It's amazing how people will be against their own self interest just because a person isn't wearing the right team colors.

>>7107723
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee people who don't agree with my opinions on social issues like gay marriage should lose their jobs, but hey guys i'm not a close minded bigot

guys?

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Anyone else get daddy vibes from Pence?? I'd need a few drinks in me but fuck yeah I'd smash that

>>7107738

Pretty sad that it will probably take for one of these fag's friends to get stabbed to death by an Islamist to finally take the blinders off

Maybe not even then they would probably virtue signal and "n-not all Muslims" while choking back tears

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>>7107732
>>7107633
You can't take away our rights and expect us to still like you.

Nah , better you guys get a landslide defeat and damage the fundies in the process

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Come the fuck on how can you not vote for this majestic beast and his horse.

Honestly, after the Orlando attack, me and my boyfriend had a long talk after Hillary didn't even really denounce what had happened.

I don't agree with Trump on everything, but I do think his history shows he's a stronger supporter of LGBT rights.
>mfw Clinton said you could have a public and private view on issues and she does still think we shouldn't get the right to marry

>>7107794
you're aware Trump simultaneously holds a bunch of very Good opinions like wanting to amend the civil rights act to include protections for transgender individuals right?

again, gay marriage is something the states should decide on, not the feds.

>>7107810
did you see the wikileaks email where Podesta freaks out over the san bernandino terrorists not being white? because that one really opened my eyes to how corrupt and evil these people are, and how little you can believe about what they say.

it disgusted me to what extent the media went to hide the fact that Omar Mateen was islamic, had ties to ISIS, pledged allegiance to ISIS in his 911 calls, and had previously threatened to stab someone for criticizing his religion's views on his own sexuality.

BUT YOU GOTTA VOTE FOR THE BLUE TEAM BECAUSE _____________

>>7107810
At least he's willing to place the blame on (radical) Islam, unlike Clinton who dare not speak it. It was washed over as a "hate crime"

>>7107839
the san bernandino mass shooting at the hands of islamic terrorists who had spent weeks or longer preparing was "workplace violence" in case you forgot ;)

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Another reason to vote Trump. Save and use your 2nd A right.

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Infringing on the second amendment via executive order. Vote for Trump and defend yourself when needed. Don't be a victim.

I know fags already have a limp wrist but that's no excuse for when the pow pow goes bang bang. V4T

>>7107821
>again, gay marriage is something the states should decide on, not the feds.
iirc That's not how the Supremacy/Full Faith and Credit clause functions.
Besides for a marriage to be valid, it needs to be valid across state lines. If I am married in Ca. and get hospitalized in Mi., then my spouse needs to retain their hospital visitation rights across state lines to be constitutional.

Our constitution is a living document so antiquated states rights positions, and the tenth amendment in general, have been eroded by centuries of jurisprudence and the slow expansion federal government authority.

>>7107882
so, 1 issue Trump has a bad opinion on
>but i'm not a single issue voter guys

>>7107325
Dude, just last year my state said no to conversation therapy for children. Its not always adults.

>>7107471
'Leaving it up to the state' isnt good enough. Certain things transcend state lines. We're not talkong about stupid shit like how liquor ought to be sold.

>>7107821
He flip flopped
His platform supported hb2 and his main surrogate in the south is the guy pushing it. This is the best opportunity to take that guy down

I mean sure Clinton is nasty but at least her groupies and their platform are tolerable

>>7107848
This is why I was hoping Sanders would win.
>pro gun
>border control
>treat everyone equally
>his crazy ideas would have been blocked by congress
Would have been great but the DNC had to choose profit over issues and now Trump might end up president because Hillary can't stop herself from being a scumbag that people won't trust

>>7107740
I'm voting Democrat and I'm gay. I'm not voting against my own self interests. That's what Republicans like you that want to give the top 1% more tax breaks are for. ;)

>>7107821
Again, deceit. ;) Morality should not be a "maybe if I feel like it" sort of thing, where some states decide to not steal from LGBT, while others do.

>>7107953
It's always funny to me how much Trump supporters go on about not being able to trust Hilary, when Trump lies to their stupid fat fucking faces.
I'm not a Hilary supporter, but neither am I Trump.

How can you not see when he's lying when he literally needs a fact check on everything that comes out of his mouth?

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>Bernie Sanders will never cuddle up behind you in bed, bring his lips close to your ear, and whisper, "I'm out of lube. You're going to feel the Bern, tonight."

>>7107248
>H-he allowed a tranny to compete in his pageant. T-that means he's pro trans, right?...

Tranny Trump supporters are so fucking delusional. I mean, they're pretty much double delusional cause they're trannies and they actually think Trump gives a shit about them. The majority of his voters are vehemently anti-trans and he'll pander to them first before he does so for a tiny percentage of both his voters and the general population. Like, Shilary, he'll gladly throw the trannies under the bus (if they themselves haven't done it already kek) for a few more votes and conservatard points.

>inb4 buttmad trannies yell at me about mudslimes and being a single issue voter cause i called them out on their delusions

>>7107873
I Already have my Ruger LCP. That's perfect for my needs and she can't take it away.

The laws his fundies have promised to pass and the stuff on the platform, it will fuck things up.

It'll be easy to get rid of Hilary if she's too much. But now is the only real chance we have to stop then fundies before they do too much damage.

>>7108033
Hilary is using cox for his adds and making lots of great promises to trans.

Sure it's just pandering and she's amoral but her coalition has the upper hand and throwing in with her is a good opportunity to secure many nice things and damage the fundies.

I'm voting for the candidate that doesn't take money from governments that throw LGBT off of buildings.

>>7107248
Unfortunately the LBT in LGBT tend to be useful idiots for the leftist establishment and love parroting whatever they hear on buzzfeed or whatever they watch. You shouldn't take their opinions seriously.

My main issues are the 2nd amnendnent, trade, and the border. Do I'm voting Trump. Simple as that.

>>7107953
Me too anon, but sadly Bernie is an aging career politician socialist grandpa. He knew what the DNC and Hillary would be willing to do if he moved forward, and he was not willing to undergo the level of character assassination Trump has. 10+ false rape accusations, dnc and hrc linked to paying mentally ill people to incite violence at his events, etc. some of the scummiest things you could imagine.

>>7107965
I'm not a republican
and that's the thing, you're proving my point. If you believe tax rates for the 1% are the problem when most of these people pay minimal to no taxes at all thanks to loopholes outsourcing and offshore banking, you don't know the issue. Are you aware that one of the biggest points of Trump's campaign is to end this while Hillary supports keeping tax loopholes, offshore banking, and making tax rates favorable to outsourcing?
Perfect example of somebody being fooled by rhetoric into voting against what they believe in. Your post made me sad.

>>7107999
Wikileaks, which is the driving force behind discrediting the DNC, Hillary, and the Clinton foundation has a 10 year long history of 100% accuracy.

You're using sources which have been exposed and discredited by Wikileaks (Politifact, CNN, NBC, CNN) to do your fact checking. Either that, or a crazy cat lady's blog (Snopes)

>>7108033
>b---but trump isn't pandering to your demographic
>you're not voting purely off of emotion? reeeee
Sorry, but there are much bigger issues in this election than social issues. And if you have paraoid delusions that Trump plans to sell us out because "the majority of his voters are vehemently anti-trans" (fact check please, I'm openly trans with a face picture of myself as a profile picture in a bunch of shitlord trump communities and twitter and I've never had anyone care)

Realistically yeah Trump is adamantly for traditional marriage which is a bad opinion, but he's a 1 term president.

>>7108045
>>7108050
>acknowledging empty promises
>thinking trump supporters are fundies
>thinking trump supporters are fundies
>not realizing trump basically outed the fundies from the republican party after the pussy grabbing tape and did more damage to them that you could ever hope to achieve

>>7108526
BBBBBBINGO, thank you for being sane

>>7108540
You mean I don't have to vote based on empty promises that will never be fulfilled because then the same people promising them to be can't use them as a talking point in their re-election?!??! why i never.

>>7108540
>love parroting whatever they hear on buzzfeed or whatever they watch
third post just to say how true this is. literally have an anon right here >>7108033 trying to tell a transgender person who's been to two trump rallies that "the majority of [trump's] voters are vehemently anti-tans" because that's what buzzfeed told them to think.

i bet they felt so smug typing that too.

>>7107892
I >>7107882 am a different anon from the one posting above, and I disagree with Trump's policies other than just his SCOTUS picks.

So that's why I am not a single issue voter just because I pointed out that appeals to states rights/'let the states choose on marriage equality' isn't constitutional.

Before I concede the gay marriage argument, I will point out that the US Supreme court is incredibly reluctant to overturn past rulings if you look at actual evidence and not buzzfeed huffpo blog post articles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_overruled_United_States_Supreme_Court_decisions

as catlady snopes would say, "mostly false"

>>7108792
SCOTUS picks are something I would say is subjective and in the eye of the beholder
and I agree that Trump's stance on marriage equality is bad. It's really the dumbest policy he's running on.

Personally, I believe the chances of it realistically happening if Trump is elected are very low. I posted above that the US sup court very rarely overturns previous rulings, but in addition Trump has emphasized appointing justices who will uphold the constitution. I feel like there is a good chance his choices won't have the same biased hangups Trump has on marriage considering he's not appointing them for their opinion on gay marriage. It's a very small issue to him and he's presented it more as a personal belief than strong agenda he wishes to push. Just realistically.

If I was in a gay marriage and it directly affected me, I could see myself justifying 1 issue voting on that one tbqh.

>>7108526
So, not a single candidate in all the world? Not voting doesn't make you cool, kid.

I'm voting for Hillary Clinton, a 1%er who conspired with every other 1%er to pull election fraud against Bernie Sanders, a guy who might've actually passes any of his proposed plans to take back every a fraction of a cent from the 1%

>>7108870
[source needed]

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>>7107771
he was a pretty good looking guy when he was younger

>>7108688
No, I'm watching Trump say he didn't say something, then watching the video of him saying said thing.
Like I said, I don't plan on voting for H-Dawg, but if you hate Clinton for being dishonest, Trumps like that pathological liar kid you knew in grade school.

God I am so glad this election is almost fucking over. I'm also gonna laugh in the face of both Hillary supporters and Trump supporters depending on who wins.

>>7107248
Because the president is not an omniscient omnipotent dictator (despite what many would have you believe) and most of the real work gets done by the people he appoints. Cabinet members, supreme court justices, federal judges, etc. The fact of the matter is that he's a Republican president and has made it clear that he will make conservative appointments that are in line with the GOP establishment. He's not actually bucking any kind of trend, he's only pretending to be.

Having said that, Hillary's administration will have its own set of problems. Both candidates are fucking awful.

>>7107492
I'm literally from around twin falls and that was not what happened.

>>7109450
shhh let him fearmonger, it's all he has

>>7109317
It's better if your candidate loses, because you get to smugly say, "Don't blame me, I voted blah blah" for four years every time the administration does something horrible to the nation.

>>7108711
The fundies were the only group to back him after the pussy grabbing tape they're desperate and so are we.

This is the best time to frame them for hypocrisy and damage their movement. Mid we can't beat them now there going to be a wave of laws targeting lgbt for the next decade.

Nothing personal, just pragmatism, we gotta do what we need to get by and daddy picked the political clout of fundies over us. He's in a tough spot so understandable. But we've got to beat the fundies before they beat us.

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>>7107248
People think saying offensive things is the most evil thing imaginable.

>vote for hillary
>hillary opens the gates for muslims
>muslims beat up and kill gays and trannies because they hate us
good job you truly did it

fuck islam and everything it stands for

>>7109870
And btw Clinton has to deliver on lgbt not only has she promised it and gotten surrogates to whore for it, but te dems have made it a wedge issue.

If she sold out shed be ousted I. The next primary. An old man with no funds nearly pushed her out last time, it'll be easier to get her out if she sells out. She has to deliver, so pragmatism makes her the best choice.

Especially given how gung ho the GOP legislature are on antilgbt laws. That's why we need a landslide to damage them.

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>>7109258
Cite examples, and I mean things that actually matter not some "slightly slipped up in a speech GOTEM" tier shit.

>>7109317
Pic related

>>7109450
haha yeah man you live in "same geographic region" as them, so you must know everything about it!
so, you know the rape is on video and was shown to the father who did an interview with Breitbart, right? you totally knew that?
right?

>>7109574
>fearmonger
>literally can not take 2 seconds to google what refugees are doing in europe
>literally does not have a single friend in sweden or berlin to ask

>>7109870
fundies are actually the group who dropped support. you're delusional if you think this is a normal party line election. you know there are just as many democrats like me supporting Trump right?
>more close minded us against them mentality and mental gymnastics to avoid the issues

>>7109925
hahaha this guy seriously thinks Hillary is going to win in a landslide
there are many promises which Hillary has not fulfilled in her 30 years of public service. baka you're brainwashed. millenials make me sick.

>>7109450
>>7109574
What possesses a person to defend a child rapist for SJW points?

>>7109968
>>7109996
Dude you need to calm down and realize this isn't /pol/. This board is mostly populated by chronically depressed MtF's who take a cereal bowl full of anti-psychotics every day and half of them are off their meds. Good effort, but you're arguing with people who don't live in reality.

>>7107910
What about adults who choose to raise their children how they want? Should a child be raised straight or gay?

The republican party is so hilariously intellectually bankrupt that it has no real vision for the future of this country and can only get votes by shouting at white people "YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!"

They're so absurdly incompetent that they actually let a sociopathic 70-year old manbaby become their standard-bearer.

>>7110030
You're not going to like going down this road. I believe children should have far more rights than they do now, ideally. I was involved with the NYRA growing up and am a total faggot about this.
We needs to stop thinking of kids as 'muh property to raise as I want' and just very small, future, adults.

I don't believe and adult should have the right to send their children to church or conversation therapy or Catholic schools, a whole lot of things.

>>7110038
>can only get votes by shouting at white people "YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!"
Actually most of his support comes from Wikileaks exposing your candidate for being a corrupt and morally bankrupt fraud. That is why I, a democrat registered transgender woman, am excited to vote Trump.

>>7109968
And you're only making me more dead set on voting against your guy to spite you.

I hate her, but your group is infested with fundies and he kowtowed to them like a coward. The fact you're an idiot from pol and they spam us endlessly with bait and snuff only gives me another incentive to spite you.

And yeah, it's ridiculous but the sex scandal and him going into ruinous spats with anyone who betrays him like Ryan means Clinton is on the verge of a landslide.

You know you've fucked up when the democrats are threatening Texas, Georgia and Arizona and may well take the last.

It didn't have to be this way you know.

>>7110146
>not a fundie
>do not post on /pol/
>not OP of this thread
>why am i arguing with somebody who's obviously off their meds

The sex scandal has almost 0 google searches this week, voters already forgot. The only people who cared are brainwashed retards who vote off of emotion rather than Hillary's very real track record of being a piece of shit towards women.

>democrats are threatening Texas, Georgia and Arizona
In polls sampled D+15 W+33, the brainwashing has got to you
baka this guy is trying to act intelligent and he doesn't even know about polling methodology tricks. so pseudo.

All of us supporting trump are excited that cucks and controlled opposition shills like Paul Ryan are being outed from the party.

Because he makes unrealistic offers, only a child would actually believe even half of he says is possible to do. He keeps flipflopping. He's a businessman, not a leader of a country. I hate both candidates and don't know how this country got to this point, somewhere in my heart I just hope it all burns down and can't be started all over again.

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>>7110209
keep dreaming pol, soon you worts nightmare would begging.

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>>7107248
NO DELETE THIS ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE WHITE MALE RACIST SEXIST BIGOT NAZIS

>>7113884
>soon you worts nightmare would begging
speak English nigger

>>7107729
>Money should be used to fund anti-science babble
>Parents forcing their children isn't really forcing!

K
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Trump and Pence are shitheads.
t. Florida voter

>>7114777
>muh science

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hmm
really makes u think

Trump is based

>In an interview on the TV show, Good Morning America, Trump declared: “I think Jenna should focus on running up in Canada and seeing how she does in Canada and then, if she does well, she has a chance to become what many, many young women all over the world want to be and that’s Miss Universe.” He added, “That should be her focus.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/12/when-trump-confronted-a-transgender-beauty/

>>7108019
>>Bernie Sanders will never cuddle up behind you in bed, bring his lips close to your ear, and SHOUT IN A LOUD JEWISH ACCENT "I AM OUT OF LUBE. YOU ARE GOING TO FEEL THE BERN TONIGHT."

Well, I am against Trump because he doesn't seem to be part of the reality-based community. He has the self awareness of a potato. I mean this is the guy who tweeted that climate change is a Chinese hoax, and for years after Obama released his birth certificate continued to claim that he was not born in America. He just doesn't inhabit the same reality that you and I share. (As an aside, I don't think he's sexist or racist, I think he'll attack anyone who crosses him in any way he can, including their looks, race, gender, whatever. He's definitely kind of a creep though.)

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If Trump wins, lots of rioters causing violence until they'e jailed or kicked out of the country. Obama & Hillary and most of the government will be rightfully jailed for helping those crooks.

If Hillary wins, total civil war within a week and Russia/China war will have no problem killing millions of Americans. It will be a bloodbath before the new year.

Obviously logic fails most LGBT people so they will vote for Hillary anyway.

>>7107315
Even if Hillary brings in all the Muslims (which she won't) the vast majority of LGBT people will die from causes other than Muslim-related violence.

>>7107248
Points for saying "Anti-Trump" instead of "Shill" or "Cuck"

>>7107373
Except there is no such thing as "scientific" conversion therapy. You're basically saying we should go around slicing people open at random because there's a one in a billion chance that you might treat a medical condition by pure chance.

>>7107477
You're almost on the right track. Jihad does cover violence, infiltration, conversion and so on, but it also covers an INTERNAL struggle against what they perceive as wrong. Indeed, activities equivalent to how modern devout Christians in the west live their life would fall under Jihad. It's not really a specific action, so much as a mindset to strive against evil and perform Allah's will.

>>7107518
We shouldn't be throwing state funding into something that has basically zero credibility. If you want to stop being gay, just stop being gay. Demanding the government pay you for not being gay is absurd.

>>7107531
Yet he chose Mike Pence as his running mate and is desperately pandering to the religious right by attending anti-gay hate rallies on the anniversary of the Orlando shooting.

>>7107536
Yeah, we get it, you hate LGBT people.

>>7107543
The GOP wants to flood the supreme court with conservatives and overturn the gay marriage decision. Even if the Democrats do nothing but prevent the GOP from succeeding, they're still doing far more for us than the GOP has ever done.

>>7107571
If Trump needs fundies' votes to win, that implies he's going to have to pander to them to get anything done. Stop pretending Trump has outsmarted them, you're the only one getting outsmarted here.

>>7107593
>>7107612
>>7107621
No the "strawman" part is charcterizing their opponent of being uncritically pro-Islam. "Oh, you think Trump doesn't have a spotless record on LGBT issues? You must also think Islam is great for homosexuals, here's some images from thereligionofgenocide.com to prove you wrong!".

>>7107633
>wanting equal rights is being unreasonable

>>7107636
>not believing in free speech when it offends your personally held beliefs
FADA isn't really about free speech, it basically means that opposing gay marriage (or even opposing sex outside of marriage) makes you a protected class.

>thinking gay marriage is something that should be forced upon the country on a national level, rather than decided on individual basis by the states
I don't see why I should be in favor of people being denied equal rights just because of "muh state's rights". I consider the rights of people far more important than the abstract rights of states.

>>7107694
Can you offer me the tiniest shred of evidence that those emails are legit?

>>7107703
No, it's because many of us have disabilities that prevent us from working, your group would gladly let us die in the gutter rather than help their fellow citizens.

>>7107774
Blaming all Muslims for the actions of a violent minority helps no one. This isn't "virtue signalling", it's called refusing to be needlessly consumed by hatred.

>>7107810
>mfw Clinton said you could have a public and private view on issues and she does still think we shouldn't get the right to marry
Doesn't matter what she "thinks". What matters is that she is willing to protect the rights of the LGBT community, something Trump refuses to do.

>>7107830
Omar Mateen was Muslim, but his "ties" to ISIS were very tenuous. He was as much a member of ISIS as the average /pol/ poster is a member of the KKK. He checked out their websites, and pledged allegience to them right before/during the shooting, but he had no real formal connection to them, nor is there any evidence he was acting on their orders. Basically he seemed to just view it as a way of making his life meaningful, yet he did not have a solid understanding of ISIS' ideology.

>>7107873
If an executive order is what it takes to close the gun show loophole, we might as well do it. It is absolutely pants-on-head retarded to have background checks, but then basically say "oh, you want to buy a gun without having to do a background check? fine with us".

Manufacturer liability is stupid though (unless they mean manufacturing guns with illegal specifications, or if a design/manufacturing flaw causes accidental death), however I'd say liability should be placed on SELLERS if they knowingly allow a buyer to circumvent background checks.

>>7108526
You're voting for the candidate who's invited to speak at rallies held by a group that wants homosexuality to be made a capital offense. Why do drumpftards think that money means anything? It's not like it does mind control on her to enact homophobic laws, and indeed enacting homophobic laws in America doesn't benefit those countries in any way. The only possible "bribery" effect it could have is for political/foreign policy purposes, and in any case I'd say making homophobic countries a tiny bit poorer is a good thing.

>>7108540
The leftist establishment is what has granted and protected the rights of the LGBT people. Literally the best that can be said about the right-wing is that they'll only take away SOME of your rights.

>>7108901
It's not election fraud, Bernie never had a real chance because he's a socialist, a word which most Americans are terrified of, and the rest of the government wouldn't benefit from his proposal. He'd stand less of a chance against Tump than Hillary does, and if elected he probably wouldn't get anything done. And he's since made it clear that Hillary is who he supports, any Bernie supporters voting for Trump are basically betrayig him.

>>7109968
Breitbart, eh? The same Breitbart that pushes the whole "no-go zone" propaganda?

>>literally does not have a single friend in sweden or berlin to ask
Most actual Swedish people say the Muslim issue isn't even that bad.

>>7109968
>>7109996
>>7110012
samefag

>>7110030
Forcing your children into one or the other is child abuse.

>>7110209
>rather than Hillary's very real track record of being a piece of shit towards women.
Yes, because we all know how much Mr. Pussy Grabber respects women.

>baka this guy is trying to act intelligent and he doesn't even know about polling methodology tricks. so pseudo.
It's not a "trick". They oversampled democrats, but used weighting to still give a representative sample.

>>7116037
>I mean this is the guy who tweeted that climate change is a Chinese hoax
And later on denied ever saying it, without even bothering to delete his twitter post!

Do any of you have jobs?

I'm 25 and have to pay $475/mo for my healthcare and the deductible is $5000! Meaning I have to pay out of pocket for everything under $5000 within a year.

I have co-workers with kids/wives who pay $1200/mo+ in total healthcare for their wife and kids and their deductibles are high as well! Meaning they also have to pay out of pocket for many things if their child gets sick.

Other countries with a better healthcare plan pay $100/mo per person and they have to pay nothing out of pocket!

I don't see how Hillary is going to change that or want to change it. That's why I'm voting Trump because he will abolish Obama's healthcare crap.

>>7116239
>>I mean this is the guy who tweeted that climate change is a Chinese hoax
>And later on denied ever saying it, without even bothering to delete his twitter post!


He was saying the global warming theory is a Hoax and it is.
There's always been fluctuations in weather throughout history, long before the weather was ever recorded.

>>7107522
What will he do to protect us against DOMESTIC threats?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSVLpzGseXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
Is he our guy?

>>7107293
>He's only for conversion FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT
Never change, /pol/

>>7107522
>Daily reminder that muslim immigration is the most dangerous thing for the lgbt-community.
This boogeyman sure is scaring

>>7115537
"conversion therapy" is 99% parents trying to "convert" their gay kids out of shame and prejudice, the kids are forced into it, and it is absolutely not something that should be supported by the government

>>7119296
>>7119296
How can you call the threat of Islam a "bogeyman" after what happed at Pulse nightclub?

>Americans have to pick Hillary or Trump, both unappealing to LGBT people
Thankfully I have to pick between someone who wants a complete ban on muslim immigration, close the borders for rapefugees, ban the Quran, ban Mosques, ban headscarfs and probably the Burkini too, and antidemocratic islam worshipping EU elitists whose latest pro-LGBT policy was legalising gay marriage.
And that was 15 years ago.

>>7119400
PVV

>>7119311
cool

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Trump says that tranny bathrooms are driscrimination in itself towards transgenders, he's our guy.

>>7119340
Nobody is going to appeal well to LGBT voters this election cycle because LGBT issues are not important this election cycle. Hopefully they will never be important again.

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>>7107454
even were the true number so small, i don't think you truly appreciate how much these people breed

1 of these fuckers equals 5 or so of their spawn ready to suddenly become radicalised as if by magic and snap in 20 years

>>7107915
>we're not talking about stupid shit

yes we are. literally the most unimportant kind of non-existent issue. consider how many trannies exist in the country and if that small of a number is worth forcing every business in america to waste cash on special snowflake bathrooms that will hardly ever be used.

>>7119098
>How can you call the threat of Islam a "bogeyman" after what happed at Pulse nightclub?
Because if you had half a brain and critical sense, you would realise that terrorism is a radical interpretation of Islam shared by a very minority. In essence - not in degree of violence -, it's like Jack Chick and his followers compared to Religious Conservatives, or the black African Christian who made homosexuality illegal in Uganda, to the regular Christian Black who are pretty chill about it.

1 billion Muslim can't be summarised by ebin graphs, maymays and anecdotes.

>why is Islam more violent than Christian, then ?
Simply because their heartland is fucked beyond repair which leads to the rise of religion, which leads to the rise of terrorism. Picture yourself if America was constantly at war, and you were a victim of it. You and your family can't fight, so they go to another country. In this country, because of war crimes committed in the US, you are victim of discrimination, people hate you irrationally, wish for the death of your kind. Won't you become at least a bit mad, and thus appear as an ungrateful immigrant ?
I'm not making an apology here, just an explanation.

>>7107366
Ironically, yes. 95% (probably more) of terrorism victims are Arabs AND refugees themselves.

Just because someone has brown skin doesn't mean he is a walking Allah Ackbar. As an anecdote, the first victim of the Nice terrorist attack was a veiled woman.

>>7117536
>There's always been fluctuations in weather throughout history, long before the weather was ever recorded.
Nobody claims that those fluctuations are proof of global warming. We're talking about long-term patterns of climate change.

>1 of these fuckers equals 5 or so of their spawn ready to suddenly become radicalised as if by magic and snap in 20 years
Except radicalization is extremely rare. There's basically a handful of Omar Mateens, compared to over 3 million Muslims in this country.

>>7119911
Except we're not advocatig "special snowflake" bathooms, we're advocating that trannies be allowed to use the same bathrooms as anyone else. It's the transphobic right-wingers who would gladly crash the economy if it means they can discriminate against trannies.