At what age did you cross the hon threshold, non-passing MtFs?
Mine was probably 16 or 17. At 14-15, I still looked like a girl and had no body/facial hair whatsoever.
I am a late bloomer.
It was 22/23 for me.
>>7104984
Bdd
>>7104984
>19
>>7105088
How so?
>hon
>below 18
You people are such self-defeating morons. Anyone who says they are beyond hope of passing when they're below 30 is probably freaking out over nothing, under 20 is completely laughable.
>>7105194
So much this. Go outside and try to clock cis females. It's surprisingly easy, if you follow this board's standards.
>inb4 going outside
>>7105194
I reached my adult height (5'8") at 16, though. Only difference between me at 20 and me at 16 was that I had grown some facial hair by 20.
>>7105216
Hell, since being on this board I've realized at least 5 or 6 of the cis girls I follow on youtube would get clocked if they posted on /passgen/.
>>7105217
Have you gone outside and looked at anyone without a y chromosome? Ever? I'm 5'11 and most adult females are around my height.
>>7105242
Are you Scandinavian? Because 5'11" women are almost unheard of in my area. In the US, the average female height is 5'4" with a standard deviation of 3". That puts me squarely outside the norm.
It doesn't help that women of my race (Asian) average 5'1"-5'2". I'm a fucking giant compared to them.
>>7105217
And?
>>7105260
It means I've had an adult male skeleton since I was 16.
>>7105264
And?
>>7105269
Which makes me a certified hon.
>>7105280
LOL kys delusional retard
Are you that bdd Asian spammer btw?
>>7105287
No, I'm not that person, but I can understand them in a way. Passing is so much harder within the Asian community due to the extreme neoteny of Asian women.
>>7105258
Northern US.
Yes, that is the average. No, you are not an average female, because you have a Y chromosome. The point I was trying to make is It doesn't matter. women and men come in different shapes and sizes, and yes, you will trend towards the top, as will I. Just because taller women are rarer doesn't mean they don't exist.
>>7105301
hang out more with none Asian communities then
>>7105304
what kind of dumb chart obscures some of the bars with other bars
Reached hon status around 18. 6'1 and beard came in strong
At 14 I looked like a fucking supermodel
>>7104984
puberty at 15, I grew to 6'2"
now I'm 6'4"
although I'm not mtf, cis guy so I don't care
>>7105568
probably an interactive one that allows you to choose which bars are in front
>>7104984
i don't know what i am doing here it's late at night and i lost myself in some fag thread.
>>7104984
I'm not sure I did. My mom is 5'11" and my dad is like 6'2" or something like that, so I was going to be tall regardless of gender.
I quickly grew to 6 feet. But my body measurements never got bad. My shoulders are a tad bit under 17". My underbust is 30" if I pull down to the ribcage (although it's 32" including my fat). My voice's pitch with no voice training is 150Hz. My head/skull is not overtly masculine and is small especially for a male of my height. No balding whatsoever. My hips are strangely wide for a male. The only thing that puberty fucked up was some facial features that I am going to fix with FFS. Oh and I started at 25. I got incredibly fucking lucky.
>>7105621
but they could just do this!!!
>>7104984
Might have been 16 or 17. I don't know what I looked like back then for sure though. I might have still made it at 15 despite the voice, I think.
>>7105839
No I haven't been karotyped. Isn't that expensive?
>>7105839
> 6'2", one of the tallest in my family.
> Late bloomer, managed to transition before puberty's full effects (at 22)
> Zero chest hair, thin leg hair, facial hair manageable w/o laser (tfw too light for laser)
> Wide-ish hips.
Does karyotyping worth a try?
>>7104984
I started being a hon at like 17. There was never any hope.
>>7106162
There's probably not much use unless it's to find a medical condition or just to know yourself better. It's pretty expensive, IIRC.
Think to yourself: "If I got a karyotype, what would that change?"
>>7104984
I was ugly my whole life.
>>7106193
But ugliness doesn't equate to unpassability. Plenty of ugly cis women exist.
>>7105301
>wanting to look like a child
wew
>>7104984
I had a long, square jaw even before puberty
>>7106980
have you transitioned
I had a pretty masculine face pre-puberty, and puberty just drove that home even further. In other words, I never had any hope.
I started 28, I do pass well
i transitioned at 25 and i'm not a hon. i did have a hormone imbalance and delayed puberty though. if i would have started HRT earlier i wouldn't have to deal with getting the tiny patch of chest hair that grows between my boobs and my facial hair electro'd off but it's just money.
half the problems people are whining about in this thread cost less than a used ford focus to fix, seriously don't be so defeatist or you'll be a hon4life.
>>7105287
Which asian bdd spammer?