/legbutts/ is against coalburning at least, right?

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>>7090139
Whites don't exist (at least in the US) so in essence dating "with their race" for whites is racemixing and coalburning. Only a very select few races are 100% pure (whites are 35-40%).

>>7090139
Dude fuck you

Races aren't even real, it's a stupid social construct

And with or without regard to that, I am not racist

Why do I fucking care who someone else wants to fuck?

Fuck you, fuck the alt-right, fuck Trump, and fuck /pol/

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>>7090165
OP here, did you know that taxons in general are social constructs?

Also, I googled "biologist consensus on race" and this is what I got.

>>7090139
>/legbutts/ is against coalburning at least, right?
Completely.
At least the real /legbutts/ and not the disguised leftist cishets who do not belong here.

Not that right wing cishets belong here, but that's besides the point.

>>7090310
Which is why taxonomy isn't a science needs to be replaced with a more accurate system. Nature doesn't give a shit about your categories.

The fact is that the fitness of a population alway increases when genes from diverse populations are incorporated into it. Mating between races will lead to disease resistance, higher intelligence, and higher fitness for the species overall.

>>7090139

I am.

>>7092427
>biology
>populations
>using the word "always"
yeah, don't.

>>7092427
So white socieities like Sweden are benefiting from incoporating the genetics of low iq ugly featured Africans and Arabs. Right. Which by the way also wipes out their unique blonde hair and blues eyes. Try again stupid. Destroying white phenotypes is not "diversity " and it's ugly and as fuck

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>>7090139
Fact is, blacks are a viper's nest of STDs. You burn the coal, you pay the toll. I'd rather not have AIDS. I'd rather not have my dick fall off. And the one-drop rule doesn't just apply to them, it applies to you having fucked one of them. If anybody finds out, you're damaged goods and off your suitors go--23 skidoo.

>>7094044
ebin

>>7092427
Please go get raped by a chimp in a zoo you stupid hippie. I make sure of the development of global warming and its denial at the same time to piss off you nature worshipers. soon all your precious animal life ded lel fucking lebbit genius

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>>7090139
Always been fucked my whites and always will.

tfw my gf is a coal burner

>>7092427
Humans are already heterozygotes. Hybrid vigor doesn't apply.

South Americans are just Indians mixed with Spaniards, nothing special about them. They're not some hybrid supermen. Same with Arabs, and a bunch of other gradated ethnic groups.

Just sayin.

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>>7090139
>tfw black
>tfw I have a white bf

Feels good, man.

>>7092337
>No True Scotsman

>>7095191
Someone's triggered.

>>7090310
Funny how the chart says "among biologists and anthropologists," and you conveniently omitted the data on anthropologists' views.

I happen to be an anthropologist, and I am VERY unsurprising that biologists, deeply indoctrinated as they are in the ways of entomologization, believe their moral taxa to be nature's law.

>>7096405
nature is not reality
your academia is not reality either

>>7096405
Anthropology is literally not science.

>>7096347
It's completely true though.

>>7092427
>The fact is that the fitness of a population alway increases when genes from diverse populations are incorporated into it. Mating between races will lead to disease resistance, higher intelligence, and higher fitness for the species overall.
Do you realize this is the biggest myth used by those promoting racemixing for purely political/perverse reasons ? This is completely false and evidence suggests the opposite is actually true.

Even if you refuse to believe the fact that black people are on average genetically and culturally inferior in terms of intelligence and empathy and are more predisposed to violence and homophobia (protip: you're wrong), there's still high risk of STDs, and the BBC is a meme. There's evidence to back all these up.
Plus you're very likely to get a self-loathing closet case that can get violent on you, or a flamboyant faggot drama queen.
That's not to say there aren't black guys out there totally worth dating, I'm sure there are, but it's not worth the risk.

>>7090310
Biologists believe in the concept of races, but don't really see actually existing races as useful ways to categorize humans biologically.

What's important to realize is that there is no white race. Anglos, Aryans, Romans, Iberians, Gypsies, Jews, Irish, Mediterraneans, Greeks, Slavs, Norsemen, ect are all distinct races that have been smashed together into the so-called "white race".

It's the same with every other "race". There is no "black race" or "asian race" or "native race" - these are just social constructs without basis in biology. In reality, an Anglo is as different from an Aryan as an Iberian is different from a West African.

This is what is meant when people say race is a social construct, and why you can get wildly different answers when you ask biologists if race exists.

>>7096859
Those are just smaller ethnic groups. The same general concept still applies. The only thing different is scale.

Europeans will always cluster closer to each other genetically than they will with Congo Pygmies. Basic tr00facts.

I feel people in this thread have forgotten that gay couples don't produce children.

>>7090310
>Yes, there are some differences between ethnicities on the genetic level. However -
>>THIS JUST IN 70% OF BIOLOGISTS BELIEVE RACES ARE REAL

>>7090139
Yes, absolutely.

>>7090165
>Races aren't even real, it's a stupid social construct

Almost everything in reality is a social construct you complete fucking moron, holy fuck have any of you ever read a fucking book before, this is why philosophy education should be mandatory in high school:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ordinary-objects/#EliCon

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ordinary-objects/#VagCom

Everything has vague and porous boundaries, every single object, just like race does. That doesn't mean we're going to stop talking about trees and baseballs and cars. So we shouldn't stop talking about race either.

>>7096859
>White people, we need to have a discussion. About white privilege. About how white people refuse to acknowledge that white racism exists. Why have white people done so many horrible things throughout history?

>Eh, fuck you, I like being white.

>Whoa whoa WHOA, what do you mean by """white"""? You know that race is just a social construct, right? There's no """white race""", so I don't even know what you're talking about.

I hate you people so, so fucking much.

>>7102090
By 'race is a social construct', it's meant that there is no biological difference sufficient to say that X race is better than Y race.

Not that we're all the exact same.

>So we shouldn't stop talking about race either.
Why talk about something that only serves to divide ? Trees and cars have other use than justify your frustration.

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>>7102096
What has he ever do to you ?

By saying race is a social construct it's simply mean that there is little to no biolgocial basis to classify and order races from the best to the worst.
Racialist methodology was wrong about Jews, Arabs, Slavs, Latins, Irish, and all Asians. Why would that methodology be right about Blacks ?

>Why have white people done so many horrible things throughout history?
While you're not guilty of that, it's true that all races, including white, did nasty business. And those who ignore history will repeat it.
>Eh, fuck you, I like being white.
You can, I like that too. No need to cover it in unwarranted self-importance, take pride in things you didn't do, or hate other "races".

Also the white race is incredibly difficult to define. A more apt term, biologically, medically, historically and anthropologically speaking would be ethnicities. And Africa has a ton of them.

>>7102098
>By 'race is a social construct', it's meant that there is no biological difference sufficient to say that X race is better than Y race.

1.) Then you should just say that in the first place. Saying that "race is a social construct" is a cheap way of trying to prove conceptually that there are no significant biological racial differences without having to actually take a look at the empirical evidence.

2.) I'm a racist, but I don't think one race is "better" than another. I don't know what that would mean. I just think they're different.

>Why talk about something that only serves to divide ?

Lots of reasons.

Medical researchers talk about race because genetic predispositions to certain diseases are more common in some groups than others.

Research into implicit biases shows that people have a natural unconscious preference for their own group.

Biological factors, in addition to environmental factors, may play a role in explaining differences in outcomes between different racial groups.

>>7102111
>By saying race is a social construct it's simply mean that there is little to no biolgocial basis to classify and order races from the best to the worst.

I don't believe in such a thing. This is not what people are talking about when they talk about biological racial differences.

>Racialist methodology was wrong about Jews, Arabs, Slavs, Latins, Irish, and all Asians. Why would that methodology be right about Blacks ?

Aristotle was wrong about physics, why would Newton be right?

>Also the white race is incredibly difficult to define.

So is everything else. Define "hammer" for me.

>>7102098
>Why talk about something that only serves to divide ?
Because it's obvious to everyone there are differences ? Why do we talk about sex, it's only diving men and women hurr I mean human beings because we can't talk about differences in people without being guilty of neo-hate speech.

Should we stop talking about human beings and go for living kingdom ? Or material life ? Or just material existence ? Where do we stop forcing our eyes closed and ignore obvious realities ?

>>7102120
>I just think they're different.
We're two in that.

I like diversity, not uniformity. I like different languages, cultures, faces. But I see in it only a facade of the other. I know that behind that facade he is exactly built like me, and had life/God decided otherwise, I could have been him and he could have been me.
>I'm a racist
>but I don't think one race is "better" than another.
You're not a racist then. You're at "worst" a racialist, and even there racialist usually focus on *totally innocent* criteria such as IQ, prison stats, etc, etc.

>Then you should just say that in the first place. Saying that "race is a social construct" is a cheap way of trying to prove conceptually that there are no significant biological racial differences without having to actually take a look at the empirical evidence.
You're misunderstanding. Saying it's a social construct simply means that the "hierarchy of races", what appears as essential differences, and other racial-based behaviours such as the fear of race-mixing are without ground and only here because of society and history.

>Medical researchers talk about race because genetic predispositions to certain diseases are more common in some groups than others.
Most doctors use other terms as race.

>Research into implicit biases shows that people have a natural unconscious preference for their own group.
Which is socially learned.

>Biological factors, in addition to environmental factors, may play a role in explaining differences in outcomes between different racial groups.
I wouldn't think so. Most biological differences are due to our environment - whites have pale skin because they don't need as much melanin. Asians have slanting eyes because they migrated through Siberia and needed to protect their eyes from the cold.
Black people, especially women, usually have more muscular mass because of a continuous nomadic lifestyle.
[cont]

>>7102135
>neo-hate speech

I'm stealing this.

>>7097748
Depends on the Europeans. Iberians, Romans, and Mediterraneans intermixed with Africans centuries ago. Ever notice their curly hair and melenated features?

>>7102137
To conclude :
Most studies showed that "intelligence" doesn't take too many generations to catch up, if people recieve proper education.

>>7102127
>Aristotle was wrong about physics, why would Newton be right?
False equivalency. Newton reinvented the methodology and used new tools. Racialism hasn't evolved since Arthur de Gobineau.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau

>>7102135
There are ways to talk about human ethnicities and biodiversity that are not racialist.

>>7102137
>>7102142
>You're not a racist then. You're at "worst" a racialist, and even there racialist usually focus on *totally innocent* criteria such as IQ, prison stats, etc, etc.

I think there may be non-trivial racial differences in IQ, aggression, impulse control, etc. I wouldn't stake my life on it, I just think it's possible and needs to be discussed. Call me what you will.

>You're misunderstanding. Saying it's a social construct simply means that the "hierarchy of races", what appears as essential differences, and other racial-based behaviours such as the fear of race-mixing are without ground and only here because of society and history.

I still don't think that's what "social construct" means, but I understand the claim you're putting forth, so I'll just drop it. As long as you realize that the argument for this claim needs to include empirical data. It can't be proved on a solely conceptual basis.

>Most doctors use other terms as race.

Even if they don't use the literal term "race", they're still getting at the same concept.

>I wouldn't think so. Most biological differences are due to our environment - whites have pale skin because they don't need as much melanin. Asians have slanting eyes because they migrated through Siberia and needed to protect their eyes from the cold.
Black people, especially women, usually have more muscular mass because of a continuous nomadic lifestyle.

I don't see how this is a response to my claim: namely, that biological factors may play a role in explaining difference in racial group outcomes. You even admitted that you think blacks are predisposed to be more muscular. Surely if evolution can act on muscles, then it can act on brains to.

(And before anyone jumps on me: there are many smart black people and many stupid white people. This is all about differences in averages.)

(cont.)

>>7102142
>Most studies showed that "intelligence" doesn't take too many generations to catch up, if people recieve proper education.

The evidence, as far as I know, is inconclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

>False equivalency. Newton reinvented the methodology and used new tools. Racialism hasn't evolved since Arthur de Gobineau.

It's unsurprising that there's not much research into racial differences, considering it's completely socially taboo.

>>7102160
Nazis, Southern, all the bogus white race cults in the US could have funded them.

They willingly choose to stay with Gobineau's classification, justifications, and eventual conclusion (muh white race will die/fade away due to race mixing).

>>7102166
>Nazis, Southern, all the bogus white race cults in the US could have funded them.

All people with no money and no social capital.

>They willingly choose to stay with Gobineau's classification, justifications, and eventual conclusion (muh white race will die/fade away due to race mixing).

The resolution of your classification will depend on the task at hand. But I also don't think there's anything especially problematic in talking about a black race and a white race.

It's entirely conceivable that white people could vanish due to race mixing. I don't know what the probability of this is. Whether this is an outright bad thing or not perhaps depends on your personal perspective.

>>7092427
>HIGHER INTELLIGENCE

>>7102166
lol
Nice ad hom
Address the study

>>7095191
>lel fucking lebbit genius
Sure is underage in here.

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>>7103924
link the actual study and not wiki

I think gays are more "Lookists" than "Racists" and the rest is stigmas

Like really white people drool when they see someone hot from other race but resist that delicious Rassenschande their bodies call for