/femgen/ - Neurology Edition

First for Flat > Fat

>>7083837
Agreed, senpai.

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>>7083837
>tfw 5'7" and 145 lbs
>tfw lost 30 pounds over the summer
>tfw still working on losing 15 more
I'm gonna make it!

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Repostan my /ghetto/comfy/ rig

Anybody in northern Alabama?

>tfw student
>tfw living at home
>tfw fell for the bulk pueraria meme
>tfw I have no empty capsules to put it in
>tfw post office won't let me use general delivery again

>>7083837
Boiboobs≅Skelly>Flat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fat

>>7083911
>Tfw technically a student but you're secretly a neet

I stopped going to my classes ages ago, the whole unit was royally fucked. There was an entire course we were meant to be doing from the start of the year that was meant to take the entire year nobody knew about until over half way in

>>7083911
>buying plants instead of pills
are you fucking retarded

>>7083921
flat > fat refers to flat chests, anon
this was established last thread

>>7083930
Last thread, I saw that dude with boiboobs that intentionally became chubby because he didn't understand how based the natural skelly aesthetic is

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I want hair like this cutie, but I don't want to take a picture of an anime guy into the hairdressers. What would I ask for?

>>7083925
It's $60 for a 2 year supply of bagged pueraria mirifica powder

It's cheap, not legally grey (you can buy it preencapsulated on Amazon for an order of magnitude higher price per ounce), and I got the puffy nips with tender flesh nickels and clear, sticky discharge after about 2 months last time I had access to capsules. So until I get a job and money, this'll have to do.

>>7083976
>tender flesh nickels
These were under the nipples, aligned with descriptions of early Tanner stage II breast buds as far as I could tell

>>7083966
Find an anime cosplayer say yoy want your hair similar btw nice taste juuzou a cute

>>7083966
why is he holding the popsicle by the sticky part ;~;

>>7084005
To better invoke the benis imagery

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My boiboobs look weird, as does my face ugh I hate being ugly hope I can get ffs soon.

>>7083830
>Anyway, anons, discuss neurology. Do you guys think that HRT can effect end-result cognitive or psychological outcomes, and if so, how?

Here's what I've found from doing some research
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165178105002714
>The cognitive performance of cross-sex hormone-treated GID patients was virtually identical to that of the control group.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X98914787
>No differences between groups receiving and not receiving estrogen were detected on a control memory task (Digit Span) or on other cognitive tasks including Mental Rotations and Controlled Associations
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453098000912
>anti-androgen treatment in combination with estrogen therapy had no declining effect on spatial ability, nor an enhancing effect on verbal fluency in adult men (MFs).
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X06001413
>These findings suggest that estrogen treatment associated with sex change for M–F transsexuals has little or no influence on sex-typed aspects of cognition or memory.

Now all of these are in terms of psychometrics, there is evidence that shows there are structural changes:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12491/full
>In contrast, MtFs, after estrogens and antiandrogens treatment, showed a general decrease in CTh and subcortical volumetric measures and an increase in the volume of the ventricles.

To me it seems like some of the cells in the brain respond to testosterone and estrogen and manipulating their levels can influence physical patterns. However doing this in adulthood is not sufficient to cause a big enough change to actually affect performance. We already know that you can get the same performance with different hardware so it's not really surprising your cognitive ability wouldn't change much if your personality and thought patterns don't either, even if your hormonal levels do change

>>7084052
Nah, they look very nice and go well with your body

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>>7083966
Just get the haircut of the best kamen rider

>>7083976
Jesus Christ, it's nearly useless exept in extreme amounts.

You'd save more money and arguably get more from taking a hundred spiro a day

No hormones have ever affected my libido or sex drive or whatever pseudo-intellectual bullshit you want to call it. go back to /sci/, atheists.

>this upsets the autistic pseudo-professors in this thread
>muh chemistry!

>>7083966
bump for interest

>>7084394
I agree with you that there do not seem to be much of neuropsychological effects from the HRT, I just found it interesting that some anons reported it.
>>7084083
I myself have read through most of those already, and posted one in a previous thread. Of course, none of the anons in the survey were reporting cognitive effects, the only femboy that did reported it in the thread, and they also said that HRT was likely not responsible for that particular effects, and they had epilepsy and had done many psychedelics.

>>7083966
visual kei

*puts on wizard hat and robe

>>7084805
x3 :O ;) ;__; O.o c: @_@ :v :^) ._. XDD
*nuzzles you*
*notices your buldge*
oh what's this? ( ' ・ω・')

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>>>/lgbt/femgen

>tfw square jaw
Is there even any point in living?

>>7083966
Black hair Suzuya is better

what the fug is good cute boy fashion?? I have no idea what to wear

>>7085650
can't go wrong with solid color vnecks, skinny jeans, and colorful shoes that match

simple outifts are high fashion, and don't wear girl clothes or andro garbage like a lot of people here will tell you to do

>>7085931
>wearing an "outfit"
>making yourself noticeable
bad

>>7085356
Get FFS

>>7084394
>>7084702
I actually had a substantial drop in libido but that was the most significant effect

I did not become more emotional per se, but it became slightly easier to cry. What I mean by that is that previously, some emotional situations would cause the urge to be sad/happy and release tears but I would only feel it lightly in my eyes. Now when that same feeling arises, it feels like the tears are already there and ready to come out. It's almost like the diameter of my tear ducts increased or something.

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>>7085319
why is there so much /fgg/ here

well i guess im not exactly surprised about the fgc being full of pill poppers

>>7083962
>tfw i thought the chubby anon was the best looking in the thread
does this make me a femboy chubby chaser?

>>7085361
Black hair Suzuya looks like the Handsome Husband

>>7086035
Baby fat helps with fem. Look at the average body fat in women desu

>>7084278
2-3 months to Tanner stage 2 breasts isn't THAT bad, is it?

100mg Spiro would be more effective, yes, but I cannot afford that. How do those numbers work out in your head?

>>7086091
Spiro is cheap It shouldn't cost much. Maybe you could combine with your plants

>>7086108
Yeah, I would definitely be taking spironolactone WITH estradiol if I had it.

But Spiro is 32 bucks every 3 months, plus shipping (unless I can scrape together two hundred and fifty bucks at the same time)…well, that's kind of cheap, actually. But I certainly can't afford it until I get a job.

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Remember, use aluminum-free deodorant so you don't get boiboob cancer

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how many of you had really dominant mom and little to no father figure. Don't lie on internet its pointless.

>>7086250
I...

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>>7086189
Is that really what my boobs look like on the inside?

>>7086250
Yup, mommy and daddy divorced when I was like 7 and separated when I was 13. Mom was pretty strict with me doing well and school but she also taught me a lot about housework and such since I would do most of it (she spent a lot of time working)

>>7086250
Actually, I had an absent mother for most of my childhood.

>>7083966
do you have a face shaped like that? this cut wont look good on other types of faces

How do I meet qt twinks and femboys? Been looking for one for 2 years now.

>>7086250
Love that picture.

Also yes, she beat me and stuff. I think you're trying to imply that a lack of a father figure makes you more prone to being feminine, but that didn't really happen to me.

>>7086418
dominant moms, rather than lack of father figure. But I guess its the same thing.

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>>7086250
I live with both of my parents and they are both really loving and we are a pretty basic family.

I don't think it has anything to do with my faggotry, I mostly blame my childhood full of uncensores anime on TV. I miss being a kid watching Get Backers and Ranma

>>7086250
I guess in early childhood I was bossed around by mom which fucked me up
most of the time both of my parents werent home and divorced when I was like 11 so mom had to work a lot and I was on my own

>>7086264
Protip all tissue is fucking nasty, especially glands

Smooth, clean skin is the only thing that is pleasing to the eye

>>7086250
I had 100% functional nuclear family who went above and beyond to provide the best for me (dad worked his way up from literal poverty with pure effort, took out student loans, full course load while also having a job to pay to feed me as a child, etc.) Dad is awesome. Mom was great, too.

I think it was probably just exposure to the internet that corrupted me. Maybe.

>>7086585
muscles look great too

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>>7085650
https://www.instagram.com/appetizing_pig/

>>7085985
what's /fgg/?

>>7086250
my bro is straight though, has different muscle mass and everything, what does that tell you?

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>>7083830
Speaking of neurology, Im feeling pretty chill on lower T, less anxiety and depression, shouldn't it be otherwise, since lower T = higher cortisol?

>>7086622
Same fampai, but I still feel depressed though I had it before I started lowering my t

>>7086622
Same effect here, it takes much more to make me angry or upset now. My emotional range has actually contracted if anything. Thinking is slightly more clear too but I think that can be attributed to the lack of sexual thoughts

>>7086636
I wanted to end my worthless lonely life, now I dont care, though my life is still the same.
Make sure you take vitamins, especially on cypro you have to take B12.

>>7086654
I can easily get upset but it used to turn into aggression and frustration now its just feeling sad. I've always been too emotional and had problems calming down.

>>7086776
I'm on bica not cypro because I already have issuse with my b vitamin levels. I'm overall happier and less angry but I feel more tired which promotes my laziness

>>7086622
If lowering T makes you feel better, you're probably trans.

>>7086836
lol

>>7086776
Any fembois wanna watch Kizumonogatari part 2 in Austin on Saturday?
Can't make it because stuff happens and don't want to let someone miss out.

>>7086836
Whats the connection? There is no noticeable feminization in such short time be happy about.

>>7086250
Fuggg ya got me.
My father was there but was pretty much just an uninvolved prop on the side until he divorced my mom and left when I was in high school.

>>7086622
>>7086636
>>7086654
Ahh that wonderful eunuch calm.

Feels pretty nice doesn't it? I just like being so perma-chill.

>want to go on medz
>afraid of boyboobs + infertility (i like my dick)
>also afraid of aging like a man, losing femininity
what do

>>7086981
underage plz go

>>7087009
im 19

>>7086934
Yeah it feels great, I actually think getting an orchi is pretty legit for depressed r9k types. Sexuality is pointless if you're not reproducing and the brain resources attributed to it would find better use in other purposes.

>>7086981
someone will post the image here, but here is what you need to take for no boobs and infertility.
Casodex 50 mg daily

Estrofem 2mg daily (start 2 weeks after casodex)

Ralien/Evista/Whatever generic available 60 mg (1 week on 1 week off) (Start a week after estrofem)

If you somehow cant find these brands
Brand name : Chemical you need to search for
Casodex : Bicalutamide
Estrofem : Estradiol
Evista : raloxifene

Also you are supposed place estrofem under your tongue and let it melt without swallowing.

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>>7086981
Infertility doesn't mean dysfunction though.

Depending on the drugs you can avoid it. Bicalutamide for example even keeps your libido intact.

You should worry about it only on cypro, on top of being able to kill both your dick, libido and fertily, it's most likely permanent.
Though you can still make it work with a bit of luck and regular masturbation.

For the tits just take Raloxifene if you don't like them.

>>7087041
>>7087040
for those taking these medications, are you happy with the results? or is it turning you into something you don't want to be?
for me, i've always wished i could look like a tomboy while still actually being a boy

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>>7087040
also take casodex at night and take evista with estrofem. when doesn't matter much.

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>>7087050
Yes.
People call it "the hrt meme" but if it is a meme then I'm glad I fell for it.

I'm on Cypro + Estradiol valerate oral + finasteride

>take 500mg of Ainterol PM each day for three days
>Skin already far softer, butt feels different and rounder, hair seems silkier and finer
Is it just a placebo effect or is this shit that potent? I'm scared.

>>7087065
why finasteride as well? do you have hair problems?

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>>7087085
>three days
make it 2-3 months before real results show up

>>7086250
I'll take you one step further

My dad used to beat me.

Then years later he apologized hard and he's pretty nice now.

>>7087065
do you get scared at all about the future? like if you change your mind, or some unexpected effects kick in, or you just dont like how you look going into your middle ages?

>>7087112
Placebo effect then

>>7087019
Agreed. It's pretty funny after you lose your test and see how much guys let their balls sit in the driver's seat without even realizing it. So much of what motivates them and occupies their thoughts is in some way linked to their sex drive. It's really nice to be rid of it. Feels liberating as fuck.

>>7087151
Or maybe you took a shower and used proper skincare?
My hair got real nice and soft from using SLS free shampoo rather than from skittles,

>>7086902
Exactly. It's a purely mental effect, as opposed to something aesthetic or social or AGP related.

>>7087181
Been using the same products (Dove and Nature's Gate stuff) as always

post some (3d) femboys for inspirational purposes

*touches boi's boibewbs*
*fondles boi's boibewbs until boi's squirming from pleasure*
heh, nothin personnel kid

>men release prolactin during orgasm
>Elevated levels of prolactin decrease the levels of sex hormones — estrogen in women and testosterone in men (Prolactin's wikipedia page)
>Testosterone levels increase with abstinence by up to 45% (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract)
So if one is taking HRT with an AA, would that mean that he shouldn't masturbate? And if one isn't taking AA, then he should?

Another thing I found funny to note is that prolactin is needed for lactation.

>>7087305
>would that mean that he shouldn't masturbate?
HRT bypasses that tho.

>>7087325
Low libido doesn't mean you can't do it senpai

>>7087320
If you are on AAs and on a correct dose then your T levels will never even reach the male range whether you masturbate or not.

These studies only apply on men who let T #rek their bodies.

>>7087340
It does for me, not that I mind.
t. not the person you're responding to.

>>7087349
Prolactin decreases the levels of estrogen too, which I'm more interested in in this scenario.

>>7087426
I already replied in hrt thread, its a small temporal fluctuation which is completely irrelevant
you will have seriously elevated prolactin on HRT anyway, its worth monitoring

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>>7087102
I think my temples receded a bit. I mean I do look like I have a bit of a receding hairline if I grab all my hair from behind but it was like that my entire life.

Finasteride is extremely cheap and if I can avoid hair loss with it then I welcome it.

>>7087139
>do you get scared at all about the future?
Mmm not really. I am curious about how I'm going to look like, but "scared" is a big word.

>like if you change your mind
lol not happening

>or some unexpected effects kick in
You mean an undesirable change or a health problem? I know all possible changes and I'm fine with all of them. About health problems, well, that's just luck you know. I can only hope for the best.

>or you just dont like how you look going into your middle ages
Doesn't matter what happens, it would have been worse for me to not take them. Even if I end up looking "weird" in my middle age (I can assure you I'm going to look good, but just assume) it would have been infinitely worse had I not taken them. So there won't be any regrets in regard of this.

>>7087446
I'm self medding so I don't have a real way to monitor it. It appears that I've been obsessed over silly stuff then thanks

how would an amerifat go about obtaining HRT?

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>>7087480
Just drink more water from plastic bottles and keep on eating GMO food

for those that are taking HRT:
do you wish you were a girl? or do you want to be a beautiful and effeminate boy? how well or poorly has the medication changed your appearance to fit your desires?
also if there are any pastebins/guide images for this i'd appreciate seeing it
im just really on the fence about this whole thing - i fit in the second category of wanting to be a pretty boy. i fear the idea of growing up as a man and all that comes with it

>>7087580
I don't really fit into any of those two options unless you count "trap" as "cute boy". I certainly don't wish to become a girl at all though.
I'm only 3 months in, but so far so good. My skin is much better and my puffy nipples are amazing. I don't feel extreme urges to masturbate anymore at all but I can do it just fine whenever I want.

>>7087633
how do you feel about boiboobs, and what would be the best way to get rid of them (or at least cut the size down)?
also, going into the next year or two, will masturbation/getting erections/ejaculating be any more difficult?

>>7087659
It was a long time until I finally decided to take them, just because I didn't want boobs. Then I realized I don't give a shit so I took them. And now I love my puffy chest to death.

I think it's the same story for most people, though I heard about one that didn't like them.

>>7087659
>and what would be the best way to get rid of them (or at least cut the size down)?
Taking SERMs like Raloxifene.

>also, going into the next year or two, will masturbation/getting erections/ejaculating be any more difficult?
Yes very probably that is the case. But heavily depends on what you take though, read >>7087040
and >>7087041

>>7087684
>Yes very probably that is the case
well that sounds scary, that's perhaps the main reason why i'm afraid to seriously look into hrt.

What are some femboi mangas, /femgen/?

>>7086981
Are you afraid of erectile dysfunction, or afraid of not being able to procreate? Specifically

>>7087708
Hentai or Non-H? Though I'm a bit more versed into trap manga rather than "femboy" so I don't know

>>7087722
erectile dysfunction, i know hrt makes you sterile but im gay so thats a nonissue

>>7087480
alldaychemist(com) or inhousepharmacy(vu)

Unless you live in a not shit state, in which case start looking for "informed consent clinics"

>>7087502
Feminization from those is corner cases. AND they'll age you FASTER, dipshit.

>>7087730
HRT does not necessarily make you sterile; that's a meme. Just don't take cyproterone acetate (or chop your balls off), and get sperm tests done every few years.

Pretty much, if you want to keep your libido, just adjust your doses until you have the libido you want. There are varying reports of people keeping libido with Spiro, Bica, etc. So just find the product that you like and the highest dosage that will let you still get an erection.
(Remember, even if you are on such high doses your sex "drive" is fully nerfed, you can still get a lot of sexual pleasure from bottoming.)

>>7087749
the thing with "nerfing" your sex drive is tricky to me
like, with the full sex drive i have, it feels like i cant get rid of it and that sex is the most important thing in the world. yet ironically, lowering that drive would almost definitely be something thats for the better

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>>7087708
Requiem of the Rose King is pretty awesome desu.

Richard III is an andro protag

>>7087708
Ang's Story. You're welcome.

>>7087782
Sounds perfect. Just start taking them, then, and if your sex drive drops TOO low, lower your dosage until you like it.

what do femboys on HRT do at the beach?

>>7087820
Providing link, I hope I don't get banned for this
http://imgur.com/a/wu3H5/

>>7087851
Interested in this

>>7087851
>>7087871
I just wear a shirt. Yeah the water will make them really obvious but thats life.

Or alternatively wear a sport bra under a dark colored shirt

>>7087749 >>7087730

most AAs will shut down your balls except bica.
it might be reservable or not

as for libido and erections interestingly enough even castrated men are able to get it up and have sex, though it surely lowers libido
its not as straightforward

>>7087892
I feel like it would be awkward around family/friends

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>>7087870
>babyfaced boy in a classroom full of masculine ape-faced cavemen
I like it already

>>7087851
I went on vacation with family last month and I had to go swimming at the beach a few times

Like 10 months on HRT and my boobs are way too big to hide in a shirt (almost B cups) so I just bought a plain top thing to wear over them
http://i.imgur.com/FNN2yyr.png

I got stared at a fair amount by strangers but no one said anything. Honestly it was pretty damn awkward at first and I was super self conscious but once I actually got in the water and swam for a bit I stopped caring. I feel like I'm becoming desensitized to being seen as a freak

>>7087946
The first times yes it is

>>7087948
>tfw that's my school life in a nutshell but less lewd

>>7087950 >>7087851
appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdBaxX-jB0I

>>7087974
>Tfw I was a masculine ape-faced caveman just to fit in

>>7087974
Are you in college?
>>7087986
>tfw I was a shy beta male pushover in HS

>>7088007
Yes, I just started college.

>>7087983
I doubt he looked like a girl with that ugly hair

>>7087950
>>7087951
I quite like my puffy nipples and would enjoy some bewbedge but them becoming big enough for family/friends to see really scares me

>>7087870
campy but still quite hot, thanks

>>7088048
That's how I felt at first, but honestly I don't think it's that bad anymore. I ended up telling them I'm trans but don't care about pronouns just because it's simpler than explaining my actual views on gender identity.

They probably already perceive you as a very feminine person and going on HRT and having some boobs is just part of that. It's only as weird as you make it out to be and once they get used to it a bit no one cares.

What do your parents say about you being a feminine boy, /femgen/?

>>7088066
I feel like half of my family would be fine with that but my other half is very close minded. (They once chased a guy in a long skirt out of a grocery store).
Thanks trans-fem-senpai

>>7088112
Mom thinks I'm disturbed and going through a phase and that she failed as a parent but for the most part she's nice and doesn't bully me too much

I kinda got disowned by my dad.. twice
My real dad basically thinks I'm a disgusting degenerate and doesn't want to interact with me (even though we didn't have that close of a relationship anyway)

I also have a step dad who acts more or less neutral towards me but I know through my mom that he's said that if I was his own son, he would disown me also for being a faggot

Overall it's not so bad since I'm not dependent on them anymore

>>7088112
Mom doesn't care although she has made statements about wanting me to find a wife.

Dad has verbally abused me and called me a sissy multiple times but stopped since I'm doing well enough in my education.

Where do you guys get your yaois? I am looking for Vassalord mangos but all I can find are spic translations.

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What can I do about shit like this? I've been taking more care of myself over the past year, and my acne seems to be going slowly, but I still have these red patches, it is just a matter of waiting for them to fade?

>>7088112
I don't live with my parents and havent seen them in a year they would be really baffled but wouldn't get upset, my mom works in healthcare and worked in a clinic that helped transgender.

They are not very happy that Im a faggot failure that wont give them grandchildren though.

>>7088161
>Dad has verbally abused me and called me a sissy multiple times

That's pretty hot anon wanna tell us more?

>>7088112
My parents are fine with it. I'm >>7087119 and after that my dad would do anything for my forgiveness and my mom's the "Just let people do what they want" type.

>>7088181
It can take 8-12 months for hyperpigmentation to go away, but you can speed it up by using a chemical peel. Just be sure your acne is really gone before you use a peel, or else the peel itself could cause you to break out.

>>7088161
>when daddy calls you sissy

>>7088181
roacutan I think the drug is called
you better see a dermatologist

>>7088230
>daddy's little sissy, vol. 1

>stomach sleeper
>can't stop thinking about boy cocks
>can't sleep because of kickstand

life is suffering

>>7088200
>>7088230
Well I'm not native English and the word for sissy in our language is used an insult

>>7088425
That's even hotter

>>7088425
did he spank you as well?

how can i be a good femboy WITHOUT HRT? is that even possible?

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>>7087870
fucking lost it

>>7088624
yes, be underaged, have good genetics and low T

>>7079674
You would likely get more responses if you post a picture. Also, the discord can be useful as well.

>>7088624
Sure. Cut off your balls, get ffs, and laser off your hair.

>>7088624
Normal femboy regimen: lower body workout, take care of your hair and skin, etc.

But as the testosterone works on your body, "cute femboy" will shift to "metrosexual twink" in the blink of an eye (or, if you fight it without hormones, "sad hon")

>>7089056
>But as the testosterone works on your body, "cute femboy" will shift to "metrosexual twink" in the blink of an eye (or, if you fight it without hormones, "sad hon")
To clarify on this line:

You can start out as a qt femboy if you are young enough

As time goes on and you approach 25, you will inevitably age into a metrosexual twink—IF you keep your full femboy regimen up.

If you let your femboy regimen slide, you will be just another weak dude.

If you try to fight the masculinization without hormones (e.g., styling and makeup), you will be a hon before you know it. Maybe, MAYBE, a "successful drag queen", if you also keep the femboy regimen up.

>>7087749
>Remember, even if you are on such high doses your sex "drive" is fully nerfed, you can still get a lot of sexual pleasure from bottoming.

Except when you cant find a boyfriend cause your ugly as shit.

Dildos just hurt my ass. I used to enjoy bottoming too but since its been 2 years since i had a real orgasm. I dont think it will ever happen again too. But there is still cuddling I guess.

>>7088171
Yoai haven, /y/, manga here, google, kiss manga.

>>7079923
/acegen/ gets far less posts than /femgen/.

>>7079982
From the processed survey data, SERMs are much less common than you may think.

>>7089075
can you expand more on this "full femboy regimen"?

>>7089179
diet, exercise, skincare, haircare

>>7089031
A picture of myself? Also there's a femgen discord?

>>7089179
The shit you find in those "how to be a trap" infographics (post 'em if you got 'em, everyone)

Really it just boils down to
>biking: yes
>squats: YES YES YES YES
>all upper body exercies: NO
>don't be a fat fuck
>don't starve yourself, either
>keep your hair and skin well maintained
>don't forget to moisturize and exfoliate
>get a haircut that works for you, NO BUZZCUTS
>get baggy, skinny, colorful, monchrome, patterned, solids—whatever clothes look QT on YOU

>>7089191
Also I forgot to mention running

Running and squats as your bread and butter, with ZERO exercises targeting above-the-waist muscles, is the way to go

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(not me)

But if this guy didn't shave he would probably be a great femboy

That may very well be the reason he has such a shitty mustache, just to avoid getting misgendered
(Not that there's anything wrong with that, just probably not his cuppa tea)

Saw this dude on Facebook

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>>7089191
im just so scared of getting older and losing cutemode, im not on HRT or anything. i guess twink/twunk mode is the next best thing?
also, what about diet? just avoid meats? i appreciate this info dump btw

>>7089210
oh and one more thing: testosterone blockers? decent alternative to HRT without the boiboobs and nuking your dick?

>>7089208
no he looks like shit and he's clearly fat and masc

>>7089215
if you tell him to block T you should also tell him to get on SERMs to mitigate the effects. just blocking T will give tits.

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>tfw no masc rough but overprotective bf

hold me /femgen/ ;~;

>>7089210
Ehh, avoiding meats is kind of a meme. I personally try to avoid anything fried in unnatural oils ("if you can't squeeze the thing it's supposedly from to get it, DON'T EAT IT" is my litmus test for oils. So all animal fats are OK, along with Peanut, Olive, Coconut, etc.) It's been great for my skin and hair.

Just EAT HEALTHILY, this is the best way to avoid aging. Any changes you make to your diet to try to manipulate hormones will be infinitely trivial compared to both the health costs of eating what you deem to be more hormone-manipulating rather than what you would have eaten if GP health were your only motive, and compared to the hormonal effects you could get from the smallest doses of actual AA/E.

>>7089215
Antiandrogens ("testosterone blockers") are the yang, estrogen analogs are the yin. It takes both to make an HRT regimen.

As for AAs, Bica seems to be the best for avoiding full-on ED; Cypro will straight-up nuke your balls. Spiro is cheap and does not nuke the balls.

As for the E: Estradiol if you're OK with boiboobs, Raloxifene if you're not.

>>7089250
coconut oil is very high in polyunsaturated fat. i use it on my skin but i don't eat any.

I'm trying to figure out what the heck to do with my hair, sometimes it's nice and a lil wavy like pictured but more often than not it's just kinda foofy and straight and boring, I Wanna get a proper haircut(maybe something punkish, if that'd even look good), but I'm torn. Haven't gotten a real haircut in like, 6 years
http://imgur.com/a/8GKOr

>>7089250
what would just taking AAs look like? >>7089223 says getting tits

>>7089305
Dude those eyebags... You look like you have bruised eyes.

>>7089406
I don't get a lot of sleep.

>>7089400
Just taking AAs would look like depression, weak boiboobs, and osteoporosis long-term.

You NEED at least SOME sex hormone to function. Estradiol will serve as estrogen, or Raloxifene will serve as estrogen in the bones and an estrogen blocker in the breasts to prevent your low natural E levels from beginning breast formation.

>>7089121
>necroing a post from several threads ago>>7089138

>>7089239
location?

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>>7089743
Europe ;~;

>>7089239
>tfw

>>7089184
Yes, a picture of yourself. The discord is linked in the first Pastebin in the OP.

>>7089818
we don't have anyone in western mass

am i fem
http://imgur.com/aunW9kz

>>7089782
all the qts are always so far away from me. its like southwest usa and europe has a magnetic pull

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>>7089789
silly anon! your reply has no image!

>>7089884
are you a qt masc boy?

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>>7089239

>>7089818
Thanks.
>>7089842
Aww

>>7089891
idk if I am, I am definitely trying to be cute yet masc

>>7089883
yea

Until what age do you plan on being on titty skittles?

Forever?

Or you going to get an orchi?

>>7089305
Please respond

>>7090047
you should just get it trimmed around a bit. if you want volume, try backcombing.

>>7089896
here you go >>7087870 anon-kun

>>7089908
cool cool
but yeah that distance

>>7090067
I've been thinking of getting it properly trimmed for a while, I'm half itching to do something more creative with it though. I just don't know what

>>7090203
go ask a stylist! you could seriously fuck yourself over here lmao

>>7089884
>Lives in America and complains about being too far from qts

I'm an ausfag anon

>>7090184
Thanks

>>7089883
for sure. you look perfect, seriously

>>7087950
Hey Anon, you look pretty cute!

>>7089995
Tit skits for life, myfam

Of course, I might be a full-blown tranny. But I'd much rather be a femboy than a hon

>>7090579
>tranny
why are you here?

Femgen just deliberated for about 20 minutes. I put my foot down, we aren't taking self-identified mtfs into the group.

>>7090645
What about doctor identified mtfs?

>>7090636
>might
Honestly my senpai, can you blame me too much for being unsure how I feel about gender? I mean, I have boobs and am very uncomfortable with feeling masculine. But I don't want to change my name or make everyone call me "she" either. There may come a time when it's just easier to let people call me "she," but for now, I definitely identify as a man.

In addition, femgen threads actually feature interesting conversation and discussion of relevant topics. I'm interested to know what experiences everyone here has with HRT, the fem aesthetic, and how these affect social interactions, etc. Compare this to /mtfg/, which is a bunch of transbian animeposters talking about how they're cute and other trans girls are shit.

Why should I not be here?

>>7090655
>What about doctor identified mtfs?
This. I wanted titty skittes, so I had to tell them I want to live as a woman. And boobs so far are pretty cool, but also kind of a pain. I'm mostly after the reduced muscle mass and smooth skin desu

>>7090662
if you need hormones that badly that you go through trouble to lie to a medical professional to get a prescription, then the doctor identified you correctly

why don't you just get them online like everyone else when it's so easy?

>>7090702
Because I have insurance, anon.

It's not that hard to tell a doctor that you want to be a girl.

Going through my insurance should save me around $500-600 a year, and it allows me to have blood tests and things like that. I would also like to be able to have regular physicals, etc, without my doctor thinking I either have a serious condition or am secretly taking off-label medications..

>>7090661
>femboy
>identify as man

stop that

>>7090721
I am a man, desu, I'm 34 years old

>>7090733
>uncertain of gender
>prescribed hormones
>34 years old
>tits
>man
why are you here?

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>>7090661
>implying there's anything wrong with animeposting

>>7090721
I thought femboys identified as dudes and transgirls identified as girls

>>7091241
Apparently calling yourself a man is no longer fem enough for femgen.

>>7091379
femBOY not femMAN

>>7091400
>2016
>not identifying as a mangirl
Please, son

>>7091379
/boyishgen/ when

>>7091400
manlet detected lmaoooo

>>7091523
I wish dude, I'm like 5'10" :/

>>7091527
>not 6'1
manlet

>>7091523
>femgen
>caring about height
Lol everyone check dis nigga out

>>7091400
Fuck off, shota is shit

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>>7091400
What about femguy?

>>7091523
homosexual cis-scum male bottom detected

>>7091523
/femgen/ is the ultimate fate of all manlets

we will never be respected, so at least we can be cute

>5'7 checking in

tfw got a qt mtf gf
tfw gna marry her one day
tfw femboys are inherently pedo + expendable

Do femboys have small genitals?
That kinda turns me on...

>>7091598
Femboy x MtF is a really cute pairing.

>>7091540
>draw a trap
>call it an old man
I'm surprinsingly okay with this, that's hot.

>>7091608
I'm like 5 inches long and not very thick, I love putting it up against my bf's because his is more than twice the volume of mine

>>7091608
A little less than 6 inches but very tiny nuts, my ex was much larger both dick and balls
but I don't really care about size
it just so happened

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i was told by /cm/ this is where i pick up catboys.

>>7091635
chasers fuck off reee

>>7091641
oh okay

>>7091632
>very tiny nuts
lucky

>>7091635
animus don't exist go outside

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>>7091686
i found this outside.
>>7091635
Close enough?

>>7089036
Just cutting the balls off has worked for some.

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>>7091635

>>7091698
Kek

>>7091698
>ywn be melonpan

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>>7091719
im fine with that, way too weeb/eccentric for me.

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>tfw asking my GP dad tomorrow if he could prescribe me AAs and mones
i hope it goes well, otherwise i'd have to wait 5 months to talk to a doctor

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>>7091635
>>7091708
We already have bears, cubs and wolves.

Pls make Fems cats

>>7091635
sup florida butt boy

why don't you teleport to massachusetts already so we're both bf-less. and of course you can enjoy my butt as well

(this will be pretty weird if its not you)

>>7091641
if you're pseudo-femboys but like twinks/femboys does that make you a chaser still?

>>7091683
yee I barely have any body hair other than pubes and pits which is a very nice upside

what does a good diet look like, femgen?

>>7089883
Not bad. You could do for some skin care so you look less like a qt meth addict, though.
Exfoliate+moisturize

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>>7091729
This looks illegal

Am I on a watchlist for having clicked that?

>it's legal because he's a boy! ^-^

>>7091641
>chasers
shameless tranny spotted

back to the /mtfg/ with you, foul tranny demon

>>7092023
Drink mostly water, avoid processed foods and premade meals, avoid added sugars and oils, eat very little red meat, get plenty of soluble and insoluble fiber, avoid snacking between meals, and eat lots of fresh AND cooked vegetables.

>>7089208
"great femboy"
>wide face
>eyes far apart from each other
>big ugly nose
>rodent eyes
>shitty hairline
>Chris Chan forehead
No.jpg

He might look like a handsome guy if he only cut his hair short, shaved his gross pedostache and neckbeardstache, lost a few pounds though and muscled up.

>>7089305
You look like Johnny Depp
Pretty qt if you ask me

>>7092097
Actually good hair

qt babyfat face

He has those going for him

>>7092104
no

do you exfoliate just your face or any other parts of your body?

>>7092104
No
o

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>>7089208
>>7092104
>>7092143
Trying to fix it with subtle changes (cba to shoop hair) but the results are not great

>>7092186
he simply looks repulsive as if he was a product of some lowly oliver twist peasant genes tbqh familia

>>7083559
As shown by the links in the Pastebin, bicalutamide will not reduce muscles.

*accidentally touches ur boitinkler*
eh eh, nuthin personnel kiddo

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>>7091894
absolute madman

>>7092235
That kinda sucks. wont lose ripped arms and jaw muscles.

>>7091894
Good luck anon tell us how it went

pump up the jam f a m
pump it up while you're feet are stompin
and the jam is pumpin'

>>7084394
The fact that ADT in males can cause a loss of libido is fairly well established in the research, of course, taking an estrogen or SERM at the same time effects things.

>>7087040
Is there any new information on taking estradiol with raloxifene?

last I checked, you could do it, but the estradiol would likely over-power the raloxifene and cause breast growth, and could also put fertility at risk.

Anyway, the whole point of SERMs is that they're estrogen that bind to certain receptors, and not others (namely breast tissue), right? Why take a regular estrogen at the same time?

>yw never be a 18th century italian femmeboy who seduces the Cardinal himself and have him lay his big holy hands on your soft squishy butt

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>>7092272
>ywn die of an anal infection caused by poop because toilet paper hasn't been invented yet

>>7092284
Fug.

Well it's okay, God's prayer will fix everything. :^)

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>>7092263
get you booty on the floor tonight
make my day

>>7088181
Asian skincare regimen

I had oily skin and started following this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es8Fa9JcY1A

along with some 2.5% benzoyl peroxide, and it's like fucking magic.

Not sure how this will work for dry or combination skin, but here's what I do.

Morning:
>low pH cleanser
>AHA/BHA toner
>vitamin C serum
>wait 5 minutes
>essence
>light moisturizer
>powdered sunscreen (important)

Night:
>oil based cleanser
>low pH cleanser
>AHA/BHA toner
>2.5% benzoyl peroxide treatment
>wait 10 minutes
>essence
>light moisturizer

The biggest difference for non-oily skin is probably using a thicker/stronger moisturizer. The one I use is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FQUGXA
which is practically water, but it works for me perfectly.

>>7092343
Just the clarify, the serum essence and suncreen should help let the dark spots fade.

>>7092343
That's a lot of things

>>7092320
Yeah, that's why Farinelli is still well and alive

>>7092267
Women take it and it works, it should have higher affinity than E
>Raloxifene was specifically developed to maintain beneficial estrogenic activity on bone and lipids and antiestrogenic activity on endometrial and breast tissue.

You wont get much feminization on serm alone, I believe you could cycle it.

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>>7092343
Holy shit, thanks! My dreams of becoming cute are another step closer

>>7092368
That's what I thought at first, but it's not as bad as it seems time-wise.

It is a little pricey though, I spent about $120 to buy everything in one shot. Although, I did buy a few extra things.

The most expensive part is probably the serum, which goes for around $50+ but you can find a decent one like https://www.amazon.com/Klairs-Freshly-Juiced-Drop-Rejuvenating/dp/B010FOFSH0
for around $20, just make sure you store it away from sunlight.

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Any qt sk8rboi femboys here?

are chasers allowed in the discord group?

i havr money
Discord
bigdaddyd#2212
Skype
bigdaddylookingfortboy

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>>7089208
>>7092186
I decided to take a crack at it as well.

He's a fat lesbian now I guess?

>>7092536
still ugly as fuck
i want to punch him in his ugly subhuman face so bad
but B+ for effort, senpai

>>7092536
losing weight could make that into something

hilarious if that guy sees these makeovers

>>7092536
It's actually incredible how much the nose bridge changes a face
>tfw mine goes outside instead of inside
just end me

>>7092503
Aren't they just twinks?

>>7092832
twinks identify as femboys shitlord

>>7092503
>>7092832
>>7092889
No no no.

Twinks skateboard.

Femboys rollerblade.

>>7092832
they are just maximum underaged and will turn into normal manly men in 7-9 years
only the one in the middle is cute

>>7092902
But badass trap with skateboard sounds way hotter

>>7092902
skate or die it's simple as that you skate or you die

>>7092536
Yeah, I honestly (originally) thought he was a fat lesbian until I fullscreened the picture and saw the pedostache

>>7092343
>benzoyl peroxide, and it's like fucking magic.
THIS SHIT YO

Like magic, no other way to put it

Just make sure your skin is clean first

>>7092832
They're just 13

90% of people get free femboy status at 13

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Why are yaoi mangos in English so hard to find online? Why is everything in Spanish or Portuguese?

Spic holocaust when?

>>7091729
Please tell me there's more

tfw normal skin
tfw never had acne

>>7093339
SKIN NORMIES GET OUT REEEEE

>>7093333
i have a folder
he also has a cute bf
he inspired me to go femboymode

>>7093329
Yoai haven, /y/ gallery, manga here and nhentai.

>>7091635
>tfw catboi
>tfw love milk
>tfw no master to give me his milk.

>>7091641
......

>>7092272
The spoiler ahhhhhh god.

>>7092343
Gunna try this my butt has been getting acne and it gross as fuck.

>>7091708
Nice work anon I admire your skill

>manga here
Thanks pham.

>>7093541
Cam you post it?
Or a link to download it?
Please I need it for studying femboi aesthetics

>>7093329
>tfw spic
glorious

Femgen is so dead.
Are you having your bps pounded?

>>7093671
im playing blazblue desu

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I had 2 laser sessions so far on my beard and it's working greatly, but there's still this slight shadow in my moustache.

Will it ever go away? I don't want to rely on makeup hide it. I want to wake up in the morning and not need to hide it from whoever I slept with.

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>>7093671
I'm still playing around with Paint.net, trying out some new stuff I got off of the forums.

>>7092536
>>7092542
>>7092554
>>7092555
>>7093262
Look at what I did! Pretty qt at this point I think.

I've learned a lot about liquefy and grid warp tools desu

>>7093772
>tfw no FFS

>>7093328
Lol so true. I recently looked through my 8th grade yearbook and everyone had long hair, so cute. And at the time I saw these guys as masculine!

>>7093541
Anon pls

>>7093671
;_; i wish had a dream about being in a gay bath house and giving this hot green eyed, ashy brown haired cutie with cut pecks six pack abs with a huge eleven foot cock a blow job.

I swear I could feel myself taking each section of his cock down my throat until he bottomed out and hit my stomach. But when I looked into his eyes I woke up, last time read yoai before bed.

>>7093641
Uh sorry its spelled mangahere and msngafox might be good too tho they went licensing crazy and removed a fuck ton of my fave titles. Currently reading your ass fetish is ruining my life its perfect lol.

>>7093829
>>7093829
>>7093829

>>7093772
I'm tempted to post my ugly ass self to see if its true ffs cant help me. But just to let you know anon no surgeon can acomplish near frank wolf tier levels of photoshop.

>>7093838
Do it, and we will see what we can do. You need hope.

>>7083830
Can I still be considered femboy if I get FFS?

>>7093671
Just physics homework and preparing for the ACT tomorrow

>>7092101
That's a new one, I mean...I guess i can kinda see it with the eye bags?

>>7093671
Was studying for a test all day but I finished now (did pretty well :D) so I'm gonna spend the rest of the night smoking weed and shitposting in this thread/board

>>7092343
Also, starting on any AHA/BHA products can potentially cause breakouts at first.