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Chaser Mentality

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Chasery-doos, now be honest. What is your motivation to chase transgirls?

Is it
• 1 — Because trannies are really just sexy submissive bois who gave up their precious manhood to be your private cumdumpsters and that they only exist to serve your cock. You want to pound that failed man butthole so bad because it makes you feel big and strong about your own manhood.
• 2 — Because trans girls are such misunderstood fragile little precious flowers you need to protect from the world's harm and you need to save them. You want to be their savior, their protector, their shield.
• 3 — Same as above but you want to keep them locked in your basement in case they want to leave you.
• 4 — Because you are actually a submissive slut and want to be fucked in the ass so you use trannies as an outlet for your closeted no-homo fun.
• 5 — Because you are trans yourself but are too unpassable to transition so you live vicariously through your mtf gf instead.
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>>7070278
> • 4 — Because you are actually a submissive slut and want to be fucked in the ass so you use trannies as an outlet for your closeted no-homo fun.

this one
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>>7070278
i don't consider myself a chaser but 3 is kind of my motivation with all girls
>tfw no trans yandere gf to mutually stalk
i like trans girls more than the general male population does because i also suffer from a certain crippling dsd (disorder of sex development, medical term for intersex) albeit in the opposite direction, and cis girls can be kind of uncanny valley to me because they too were disfigured by estrogen to an extreme degree
trans girls are soft and feminine with nice little titties and fewer horrifying traits like wide hips
i'd be interested in picking cal's brain given he's a true chaser with the same condition, i wonder if it's disproportionately common for straight trans guys, but caraposter's hijacked his namefagging for the time being because cara can't cope with being turned down sexually
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>>7070297
Klinefelter?
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>>7070313
i am a tranny
i might be some physical brand of intersex on top of being a tranny though, there are suggestive traits
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>>7070278
1.
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>>7070297
>trans girls
>wide hips
wait whaaaaa
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>>7070323
Oh, you're that girl.

Who wants to be called a tranny/mtf, despite being "ftm".
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1. I love dominating and raping both failedmales™ and fakebois™.
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>>7070346
wew that's kinda hot
throw in some choking too and i am yours
t. failedmale™
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>>7070330
>lower chance of wide hips
>>7070331
this meme is stale as shit
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>>7070278
Number 2 is the only acceptable, and only if he's /fit/ or inshape and older, both also need to be tall.
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>>7070278

I would go for a chaser that's one or two, but only if it's a serious LTR and not casual sex.

Not what was asked, but I wanted to respond to the thread anyway.
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>>7070486
Good tastes, i'd go for 1 or 2 as well
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>>7070486
I'd go for a 4.
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>>7070570
have fun shoving your feminine benis in a hairy man's butthole lmao
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>>7070570
I'm a 4, pick me!
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>>7070585
Whats wrong with that?
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>>7070585
That's not a "feminine benis", that's my cock. No need to hide the truth using some awful euphemisms.
>>7070597
Are you a twink or a femboy?
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>>7070645
Masculine and fit
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>>7070278
Will you judge me harshly if I say #2?
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>>7070650
What things would you like a MtF to do to you? Elaborate please.
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>>7070278
1. i wanna rape and beat up qt femboys/traps tb.h
probably cos it's taboo, im actually a chad with a gf
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>>7070278
Yes.
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>>7070661
This is 4chan. People would judge you harshly if you fed a city of homeless people and performed biblical miracles on a weekly basis.
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>>7070684
We'd probably start making out and rubbing each other's cocks until we both get hard. Then we could frot a little bit until some precum starts to drizzle out. I would lick off the precum and put her cock inside my mouth.

After sucking on the head for a little bit I'd start to deep throat her cock and have it hit the back of my throat until I start lightly gagging. I'd switch positions and we'd 69 each other for a bit.

This is usually the point where I beg to get fucked in the ass. I wouldn't be ready for it right away, she'd finger me to loosen me up and then tease me by rubbing the dick head on my anus but not putting it in.

She'd finally start pushing it in and I realize it's actually really big and thick and it's not quite fitting. I need to relax more to let it slowly slide in. I tell her not to start pumping yet because I'm already feeling quite stuffed. But then slowly I'd get used to it and she'd start to move it a bit in my ass.

I'm already hard as a rock while she's pounding my ass, and I start to feel good, really good. My ass feels warm and completely filled with cock. I start to come and my ass squeezes her cock. She's close to finishing as well so when I start jizzing everywhere she finishes too.
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>>7070755
That was hot. I'd also lick your asshole thoroughly and fuck it with my tongue to make you relaxed and ready to take a dick. And I'd definitely make you to bounce on my cock. I'd like to see your face screwed in pleasure and watch your muscles ripple while you are fucking yourself on me.
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>>7070278
None of them, transgirls just look better than cis girls.
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>>7070782

You mean you're number 5.
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>>7070278
want someone who looks like a girl

but I also like dick
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>>7070789
cara is worse than 5, really. he's an autoandromimetophile. he wishes he were a trans man and has admitted this himself, and displays the 'i hate you because i want to fuck you because i want to be you' pattern common amongst a subset of agps. but cara's story is more tragic than theirs -- an agp can become a (trans) woman, but a cis man cannot become a trans man. cara is already a pathetic imitation of what he loves and it's further from it than anything else would be. how sane would you be in his shoes?
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Feminine body + benis = best of both worlds.
I rest my case
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So no room to just fall in love and not give a shit about labels?
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>>7070827

So that's why he's so upset with FtMs.
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>>7070645
>awful euphemisms.
if you think benis is an awful euphemism then you haven't heard nothing yet, phammy

there is
- girltinkler
- gt
- clitty
- can't think of more tbqh
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>>7070889
I'm a fan of stick pussy
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>>7070278
>>7070296

This. :(
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>>7070782
#3/#5 hybrid detected
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>>7070872
you mean you are
>6) a mustard race bisexual who don't give a fuck about what other people have between their legs
?
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>>7070889
Girltinkler I've seen here. I'm a newbie. That's cringeworthy too. But why "benis" and not "feminine penis"? Also I hate the word "boypussy" and it's variations like "boipucci".
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>>7070913
>But why "benis" and not "feminine penis"
why not fenis
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>>7070919
Yeah, that's reasonable.
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>>7070889

Trans woman's penis:
>Shenis
>Diclit
>Penoris

Trans woman's scrotum:
>egg sac (came up with this one myself senpai, along with penoris)
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Because girls with dicks are hot. /thread
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>>7070942
>egg sac
>egg
That triggers my inner autist more than "girl balls" would
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>>7070961

In Spanish, the word for egg is also used to refer to testicles.
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>>7070967
I see
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>random faggots I used to talk to on /b/ when I was 14 jerking off to traps are now tranny porn stars making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year

why did you tell me not to become a tranny

why did you say it was a terrible idea?
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>>7070985
i bet those people who told you it's a "terrible idea" become trannies themselves

you got rused pham
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>>7070992
FUCK

they probably knew the market was going to boom and fucked me over on purpose

fucking faggots
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>>7070278
Look man, I'm gonna be straight up honest with you, I just want to put a benis in my hands and mouth without it being homo.

I don't know if I'm a "chaser" though since, for one, I'm too beta to chase anything, and two, I want a relationship more than I wanna fugg.
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>>7070278
1 but i think cum in general is really hot and the idea that i can fuck another man while making him dress like a woman and force him to cum in his panties while i cum in his ass is really hot. I just want to make mtf girls embarrassed and use their bodies.
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>>7070985
Ah yes. Destroying themselves by being an infertile pornstar that will inevitably lead to incontinence.

What a life they lead!
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>>7070278
For me its because I believe that I have no chance of getting an actual cis girl and even if I could, she'd have to be one of those 600 pound 40 year olds with 15 cats.

So I figured that I could probably get a cute-ish tranny because no one else wants them.

I turned out to be wrong though. I dont even have a chance with trannies and I even figured out that the cute ones have the same or even higher standards than actual girls.

So pretty much I'm fucked.
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>>7071162
Trannies are the sluttiest, whorish creatures on the planet. They also seem to have even less personality than real women, which truly is an achievement.
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>>7071162
just do online dating

it will take a while to actually figure out how to write a good profile, fix your appearance, take good pictures, send decent messages, etc.

but those are good skills to have anyway - it's like writing a resume and a cover letter

and fixing your appearance can only help

Once you do this, you'll get at least cute 6/10s who want to "date" you. By "date" I do mean most women online want to bone. Like first date bone.

Just get her to agree to watch a movie lying on your bed. Because, uh you know, the movie is on your computer; and there's not enough space for chairs. Or something like that. After that you just have to cuddle her in your bed.
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>>7071186
>just be attractive

Fuck off
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1 & 5
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Because women broke my little chaser heart omg so now om taking skittles to be one ^~^

Ill never get hurr again
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>>7071197
No, you just have to be not "unattractive"

you can't just work on your appearance into even 5/10, since 80% of men are rated BELOW AVERAGE in appearance

just stop being fat and/or out of shape

make sure your hair is cut and your beard is either shaved or trimmed, just basic shit like that

you will still be 4/10 to women, but you will no longer be 2/10 and that matters
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>>7071202
Get back to /int/, Maki.
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>>7071242
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>>7071255
BECOME A GIRL ALREADY
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>>7071305
im trying daddy ;~;
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1 and 4.

Trannies are girls with dicks. I'm a bi switch who wants to have his cake and eat it too.
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>>7071340
A-also come back /int/ and post pics when you're done.
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Where do trans attracted men hang out? I can't ever seem to find a boyfriend.
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>4 — Because you are actually a submissive slut and want to be fucked in the ass so you use trannies as an outlet for your closeted no-homo fun.

I'd rather not get shit on her dick. So I can play with it.
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>>7071396
4chan
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>>7070278
Because of the people I find attractive happen to be trans?
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>>7071396
Never managed to find an mtf to cuddle,snuggle and spoon :(
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Where's the I'm FTM and I want a cute Amazon mtf gf to cuddle with option?
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>>7071396
The internet

I don't think people who participate in normal day to day life would be willing to get with a m2f. Even if they were into the idea they wouldn't sleep with you anymore then they would fuck a fat or ugly girl if their friends would know about it.
But people who live on the internet, with little to no social life, don't have the same reputation to uphold. On top of this many guys who spend too much time on the internet spend too much time on porn. That combine with general loneliness people on the internet will have more of a sexual appetite for trans girls.
Many people on this website will right this off as just a fetish for Closet AGP Biscum. This might be partially. But to say these Closet Wierdo Losers don't have the capacity to love a trans girl, as many on this board, is unfair.
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>>7071463
You sound like number 2 tbqh familia.
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>>7070645
>That's not a "feminine benis", that's my cock. No need to hide the truth using some awful euphemisms.

This. The idiotic names people come up with on here are the opposite of sex.
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>>7070278
>• 2 — Because trans girls are such misunderstood fragile little precious flowers you need to protect from the world's harm and you need to save them. You want to be their savior, their protector, their shield.
THIS ONE
I have a savior complex and used to want to take care of drug addict and "lost" girls
But Trans girls are better since they can be normalish but still need to be protected
also curves tits ass and cock make an erotic combination
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>>7070278
1, i want to use them and never speak to them again
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>>7071506
>tl;dr
>macho hetero bros might fuck you on the down low
>Lonely Internet Losers want tranny gf
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its #1 for me sir
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>>7071512
Yeah, I guess. I'm broken too as a tranny so idk if I can be her "savior" but I'd try.
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>>7071463
What's with your obsession with fetishizing MTFs ?
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>>7071396
lol as a guy i would also like to know i want friends who like the same thing i have only met one guy and he was in an open relationship with a cis girl and he used the word trap in real life which made me cringe a bit
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I enjoy how this entire bread is endless posts of anons justifying their own worth, no matter how obtuse their reasoning. Of course, everyone posting is a huge faggot...
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>>7070844
Well said, brother!
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>>7070330
>tfw tranny
>tfw 40" hips and 30" waist
get on my level senpai
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>• 2 — Because trans girls are such misunderstood fragile little precious flowers you need to protect from the world's harm and you need to save them. You want to be their savior, their protector, their shield.

OP where did you get this description of me?
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6. Because they're bitter incels who have given up on cis women, but think they might have a chance with a group of approximately looking women who have small dating pools themselves.
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>>7073640
I've got 38" hips and 28" waist but that doesn't mean anything when my shoulders are 17" wide. How big are your shoulders?
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>>7077313
>t but that doesn't mean anything when my shoulders are wide
This. My hips are 40" but they are barely visible with my 18" shoulders.
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Number 5. I'm not even physically attracted to them really, but I like dating them because I relate and get to live out my fantasies through them.
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>>7077517

So how long does it take them to figure it out and dump you?
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>>7070278
1 and 2 desu, just without the cumdumpster part, I grew up in a catholic household so thats nothing I'd do. Also I do not actively search for transwomen but I wouldn't refuse one already or almost passing / with potential to pass in the future. I think my hatred for the modern western woman plays a role in my attraction to transwoman as well. I don't want a whorish slut who thinks she needs to prove me how empowered she is every day, I just want someone to cuddle with.
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>>7070278
>4
That's me. I just can't seem to find someone to do it.
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1. Master race. An alpha male can fuck as many women and tranny failed beta males as he wishes
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>>7078245
How many trannies have you used bro?
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>>7078317
Two. Met them on different dating apps, they were decent, solid 6/10
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>>7078339
Shit wish I could be like you. Currenly in an online relation w/ a transgirl I plan to smash one day. i used to be like 1 but after dating for so long ive become 2
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how did you ignore the most common and obvious motivation?

6 - Attraction to the female form (curves, breasts, girlface, etc) and also penises but not the rest of the male form.
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>>7078339
Details, bro, details

Greentext time, broski
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All 5, reading that got me hard.
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>>7078446
This.

I'd like to casually fuck a qt trap once or twice, but I'm in a comitted long term relationship with the woman of my dreams, so I'll have to live vicariously through you guys lol
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personally i just like the uncanny valley of male features poking out through femininity. i like a lot of women that look androgynous or have male-ish features. but i don't like dudes or hard masculinity and i'm also kind of repulsed by FtMs. i'm not opposed to sucking a dick, and i have, but i'm not sure i really feel either way about dick or pussy. i really like the look of a gooch under an asshole though. i went to art school and most of my friends are "out and out" dudes, and my parents are liberal commies, so i don't really have stigma about dating...i just haven't met that many trans girls IRL that i find attractive (and i'm pretty lenient) and i'm also beta as fuck.
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>>7070278
Because feminine guys get my dick hard?
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can someone decipher this fucking phone number? It doesn't make sense

> For one fun . Sixoooo eat for . Cerrro for sevennn one
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>>7085713
4116840471, put in code to avoid spambots and non-serious people
>tfw spam filter forced me to reformat the phone number thrice to remove the spaces and make it harder to read
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>>7085727
thanks, you got a digit wrong, but I think I fixed it, let me try now
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>>7070278
2 & 3 quite obviously

[spoiler] 5 too ;__; [/spoiler]
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In a fetish sense #1 is pretty hot but its not like I actually need to fuck a girly boy to make myself feel secure about my masculinity. In general I just like girly people who share my interests.
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>>7078350
>Currenly in an online relation w/ a transgirl I plan to smash one day
aka things that will never happen; she's using you to buy clothes & sextoys.
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• 6 — Because you're attracted to the female form but don't want to actually have to put up with cis females.
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>>7085854
This.
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>>7071149
wow you can do this to me without me needing to be a MtF

happy wearing panties ^^
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It kinda sucks that I'm labeled as a chaser. Its just that I suffer from a difficult dilemma.

I find vaginas to be disgusting. Like the meat flaps and gooey smelly hole is gross to me. I've had Girlfriends before and the only one I could stomach was my GF in high school but we were both 13 at the time so yeah.

So I find vaginas disgusting but I'm not attracted to Men or guys. I am attracted to other aspects of females like their cuteness, their soft smooth skin and boobs. I love boobs.

So becoming a "Chaser" seemed like the right thing to do. I have no regrets.
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>>7070278

> What is your motivation to chase transgirls?

How typical, another mentally ill/unstable MtF tranny. What about those of us who chase FtMs?
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>>7086069
what is your motivation to chase ftms?
andromimetophiles seem to be too varied a group for me to draw any conclusions about them, though some seem to be a variant of 5 (c.f. cara)
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>>7070278
2, but I'm also trans.
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>>7071463
im in western massachusetts come up here and let me bully you
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I guess...

6 - I'm bi, more of a top/dom and like femininity but also like cocks.
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>>7070278
>What is your motivation to chase transgirls?

>implying I chase trans girls instead of them chasing me
OK :^)

>• 1 — You want to pound that failed man butthole so bad because it makes you feel big and strong about your own manhood.
When I Power Clean 205lbs THAT makes me feel big and strong about my manhood. By comparison dominating a trans girl is extremely easy and unrewarding in that regard... other than that good feeling you get when you know a girl wants your dick badly.

>• 2 — You want to be their savior, their protector, their shield.
I dont have a Superhero Complex and people that do tend to be annoying as fuck. Protecting your friends and family (especially the females) is every mans duty, but people that have a fetish for it often need to be told to shut the fuck up and mind their own business.

>• 3 — Same as above but you want to keep them locked in your basement in case they want to leave you
Not a psychopathic sadist, but I did recently start Tren again.... sometimes its hard to tell the difference :^)

>• 4 — Because you are actually a submissive slut and want to be fucked in the ass
I have a Puerto Rican trans friend that has been calling me "daddy" since she was a teenager. Her dick is almost 8" and she tops guys for $300/hr. She would top me for free if I wanted it, but she has always been a bottom for me.

>• 5 — Because you are trans yourself but are too unpassable to transition
I have never understood this meme. I like college aged 7/10 cis girls with long blonde/brunette hair, tan skin, and an entire wardrobe consisting of nothing but yoga pants and sweatshirts ..... but I dont want to be one.

Why no:
>• 6 — Because you are attracted to young, pretty, passable trans girls as a normal extension to your heterosexual attraction to femininity.

hhhhhh another shitty Chaser thread made by an immature lonely little fuckhead shitposter.... oh well (:
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>>7070278
Y'ALL R EZRR
WE R KNDA GAY ALRDY
AGAIN EZ . ASS IN, U R TRANS = U R SLUT
GUYS LIEK SLUTS
U SMEL NICE ND MAKE ME FEEL GUD
OPTION #1 WAS KINDA SPOT ON GUD JOB
THAT IS ALL I WILL BE HERE DOING MY DEADLIFTS ND KEGELS CUZ I HAV SEEN THE LIGHT ND IT HAS A VRY LITTLE PP ATTACHED 2 IT
HPY CHASING
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>>7070278
Hi
People need to understand you don't have to want the entire package

I am attracted to women, but i dont like vaginas
i am not particularly attracted to men, but i love penises
I don't understand what makes it so difficult to get that

Women usually have vaginas, but now a days you can have the woman without the shit nasty blood leaking hole so whats not to understand?

>you like men? with penises? how does that even make sense! men=penis you CAN'T have one without the other despite the fact i know there are men without penises
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I'm a pan sexual-deviant into hardcore shit. Trannies are the perfect mating material for me, they embody a full range of my fetishes. I like that I can throw them around a little, get rough, because they are smaller than me. With my strength I can pin you up against a wall and lick you for as long as I want ;) this whole thread got me hot and bothered as I was reading.
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• 5 — Because you are trans yourself but are too unpassable to transition so you live vicariously through your mtf gf instead.

this one
I met a trans girl through an imageboard and we started going out. pretty nice, even though I've started to realize I'm just living vicariously... like, we went to F21 once and I got her a dress because I really liked it, not really because I wanted to make her a gift...
Anyway, it's been pretty fun, I get to cuddle and do lewd stuff with a cutie without having to deal with cis grills drama. And penises are fun, so that's a plus I guess.
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Any trannies wanna talk and exchange pics x
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>>7070278
only 1-3 should be acceptable answers
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I'm a tranny but I'm a 2 anyway. I'm super self-reliant so having a foil to that makes me hot.
>tfw when no anxiety ridden and depressed gf to protect and spoil.
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6. im a weirdo with no idea what the fuck they are doing with their life and wants someone they can get head pats from despite being an ugly as fuck loser with no future
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>>7086476
You're too fat and your shoulder are narrow.
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6 - Simply curious, never chased anyone, probably would under the right circumstance.
Def dont want dick, so maybe post-op best? Maybe a little bit of 1 and 2 also.
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>>7070278

1
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>>7070278
1,2,3,and 5
20/m Been online dating a pre-mones 17yo mtf for 2 1/2 months now.
>1: Originally we met on /b/ and jerked off together on skype. She loves to get dommed on cam
>2: we just kept talking and talking to the point where we basically became best friends and now basically bf and gf
>3: I'm super jealous and although I see nothing long term I don't want to lose her
>5: I used to like crossdressing and stuff but my family would never allow it so I guess I'm with her to use her as an outlet
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>>7093348

She doesn't know, right?
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>>7093411
She doesn't know what?
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>>7093567

That you're living through her vicariously and envious?
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>>7093572
I've told her about my past, she knows and has said she doesn't mind if I do it, but I don't want to do it anymore.
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>>7070827
I used to be friends wig someone that was the opposite. Theyre a huge Yaoi fan and transitioned to male but they want to be a trans woman/trap/whatever and get fucked by dudes. they also have a hatred for trans women as well. what a small world we live in
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>>7070278
I just want a fakeboy to love and that loves me enough to be 100% obedient, I'm a very controlling person but not really abusive
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>>7070782
Friendly reminder that caraposter is fat.
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>>7094843
thanks for le reminderino, friendo
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>>7070813
This is also me. I'm like a 2/2.5 on the Kinsey scale.
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>>7070813
want someone that acts like a man

but I also like boobs and vaginas
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>>7095301
date a tomboy
a trans guy is pretty far from what you want here
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>>7095309
every tomboy i meet are sluts
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>>7095357
all women are sluts, what were you expecting? you're sure as hell not going to find a trutrans guy who's okay with you wanting him for his disfigured body and will avoid transitioning solely for some relationship
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>>7095373
>wanting him for his disfigured body
i just want him not to have a dick desu, but a functional vagina would be a plus if he was okay with using it
i'm also not a big fan of muscly guys like the ones you are posting
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>>7095373
tomboys are also obviously not the same because they aren't real boys
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>>7070913
>but why "benis" and not "feminine penis"

BENIS :DDDDDD
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>>7070278
6 -- Because I've always been drawn to uncommon and rare things. That, and I don't see the difference between dating a girl with a penis or vagina. As long as we keep each other from getting bored and can fuck, it's all good.
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>>7070278
Because it's fun to try something new and normie girls are mostly very boring
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>>7086210
>When I Power Clean 205lbs

wow

>but I did recently start Tren again

oh lmao
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>>7086066
Me too
I think fannies are gross, but i like femininity
So femboys for me
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1 mostly with a little of 4, and 2 in some circumstances
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>>7070278
1 and a bit of 5.

mixed in with "the taboo nature"
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>>7098841

>1 and 4

How is this not contradictory?
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>>7095309
not if you're a sadist. haha
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>>7099358
edgy loser
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>>7070278
they're just...the best. <3
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>>7099239
Being a switch.
Sometimes my mood changes, but primarily 1 without the last part. I just want them to be cute and submissive most of the time.
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>>7070755
>>7070776
Lewd desu
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>>7071463
Weeellllll, shame you aren't around the Midwest.
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>>7101645

Is that tranny famous? They look familiar.
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http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1477051690834.webm

>Trannies say they don't want you playing with their cocks
>"Play with my cock, baby."

Then what did she mean by this?
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>>7106591
>Porn is real life
Enjoy your stay at the prison, and being placed in the sex offender register, when you rape and "torture" the first girl you take home.
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