"Other hormones implicated, but not completely elucidated in prenatal and pubertal breast development are progesterone, growth hormone, insulin-like growth factors, estrogen, prolactin, adrenal corticoids, and triiodothyronine."
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3706056/)
So I've been reading about the science of breast growth in girls. Apparently it's caused by many hormones, not only estrogen and progesterone. So why are trans girls only given estrogen and sometimes (rarely) progesterone? Is it a conspiracy to keep us from getting tanner 5 boobs? ;_;
no wonder my tits are ugly moob-like
Doesn't taking oral oestradiol cause levels of igf-1 to increase, or something.
>>6936850
Estrogen should do that for cis girls. Not sure it applies to trans though
>>6936861
As long as you aren't taking a GnRH agonist as your antiandrogen, shouldn't the igf levels remain elevated to puberty levels, even though we've swapped out the sex hormones.
Sounds like old hons are btfo.
>>6936903
why
>>6936928
Well, people who started at 17-18 would already have quite increased igf levels, brought on by growth hormone elevations during male puberty (and I'm guessing this wouldn't be affected by antiandrogens)
>>6936948
oh, i forgot this board is full of youngshits
>>6936903
>As long as you aren't taking a GnRH agonist as your antiandrogen
does it mean cypro is a no-no since it also works as an antigonadotropin?
>>6936948
>tfw started at 22
im fucked
>>6937001
not as fucked as me
i started at 25
>>6937012
wanna murder/suicide each other?
>>6937051
can I join? 24.8
we could make it a chain or something
I started at 24 and I almost have full a cups 4 months in. Obviously if your boobs don't grow right you aren't trutrans enough. My instantly knew it had the right hormones when I started HRT and has been fast developing since.
>>6937095
We can lie in the forest and die together. Can you get to Japan, or eastern Australia?
>tfw will never hold a cute guy's hand while the helium is slowly seeping into my lungs
>tfwywnb tied down by a cute guy who gently strokes your gt and calls you a failed man while slowly strangling the life out of you and releasing you into sweet oblivion
>>6937160
>>6937204
>tfw no bf to brush aside your tears, hand you a gun and give you a kiss goodbye
>>6937160
By most peoples appraisal, I qualify as a cute 'guy'
Guys its time to stop joking about suicide.
>>6937274
Well, I wasn't joking. Offers still open for Tokyo meetup.
>>6937204
>who gently strokes your gt
>strokes your gt
is that a typo?
>>6937274
>joking
>>6937274
no fuck you
>>6937311
That's what we've been doing retard
>>6937323
Meme suicide pacts aren't what I'd call constructive.
>>6937335
About as effective at inducing suicide as meme wall-of-texts, daysuesinpie
>>6937335
There are no other constructive solutions to being too old
>>6937335
Its not a meme, I would book a flight tomorrow if any one of you were serious.
>>6937354
I've tried before but I always panic and back out. I'm sorry for letting you down anon ;_;
>>6937363
same tbqh
I am scared of people
I hate showing my face in the public
I could never do this tbqh
>>6937378
Psych wasn't much help.
Its just easier this way. Also sounds kind of romantic.
I'm sick of this existence.
>>6937374
It's nice to dream though, like normies imagining that trip across the world they'll take some day, even though they know they can never afford it...
>>6937378
25. It's only a matter of time before I have to leave even here. The mods don't give a shit anymore so you don't even have to pretend to be 18 or older
>>6937404
You don't have to pay off credit card debt if you're dead.
>>6937412
You're right, but that was more a metaphor
Let's see what happens if I take a strong sedative, and fistful of amphetamines.
Stay strong, folks.
>>6937274
I'm not joking, I'm fantasizing.
>your boyfriend will never introduce you to his cis fiance who he's leaving you for
>she will never politely thank you for taking care of him before she met him
>they will never praise your service then gently drown you in a bathtub
I hate this. I can't even die like I want.
>Thread about mtf breast growth
>Hons derail it into a suicide thread
Please get a therapist or two folks
>>6937697
I wouldn't even be stuck in boymode if my stupid boobs were bigger
>>6937354
I'm not memeing either I litterally have a helium tank five feet away from me. I haven't used it yet because I've fucked up hanging, suffocating, carbon monoxide; getting hit by a car; starvation, gassing, and plastic bag over the head; and I don't want to fuck this up and be alive
I'm not a pussy, I just wanna be successful [in suicide]
I wasn't trying to quote Drake btw
>>6937274
>joking
>>6937157
Oh can't leave bc some legal stuff about being a danger to myself etc nbd
>>6937702
Living and presenting as female isn't dependent upon having tits
I've been flatchested for years
>>6937697
What did you expect? It's frustrating to see how girls in our age look like.
>>6937697
a therapist can't make me not a hon, asshole