uncomfortable as both genders? pls respond

>>6917191
i mean, it's impossible for anyone else to say for sure, but it sounds to me like you could be trans and just worried about social repercussions of transitioning. when you imagine yourself as female, do you think about how you'd look after taking hrt? does it make you nervous even if you'd hypothetically pass 100%? bear in mind that even if the answer is "yes," it doesn't answer anything for sure.

also, your hobbies and interests have no bearing on whether you feel dysphoria or your gender identity. it's understandable that you might like lifting or cars or computer science or whatever you consider "masculine" interests, since you probably grew up doing those things or wanting to do them. girls can have masculine interests and boys can have girly ones, it doesn't make them a different gender.

but if you honestly don't like the idea of having breasts or a vagina or broad shoulders or facial hair or any gendered traits, then that's a whole different story. you can still do certain things to alleviate that dysphoria while making yourself as androgynous looking as possible (and it doesn't make you a special snowflake tumblr whatever.)

So what you're saying is... you wish you were a tomboy.

Because girls don't have to do stereotypical girly things.

>>6917225
>>6917235
I understand that your hobbies whether they be feminine or masculine don't define your gender, but I imagine it would be extremely difficult to pass as a "transgendered tomboy"

>>6917225
and yea its really just a lot of the social repercussions
if i lived on an island by myself with access to hrt I'd be on it

>>6917257
Difficult sure, but I know people doing it anyway.

>>6917257
There's nothing that says you can't get snipped and pop titty skittles and present as a man, just in case you never really develop to the point where you feel comfortable presenting as a woman.

The worst that can happen: infertility, baby skin, muscle wasting, mood swings, gyno. And a real man will have to open your pickle jars.

>>6917296
>infertility
doesn't bother me that much

>baby skin
sounds nice

>muscle wasting
meh

>mood swings
already got those fampai

>gyno
i browse /fit/ so i already have gyno

>>6917257
hmm. well, really the only thing you can do is wait it out and try to take small steps toward creating a situation where you feel comfortable transitioning. maybe see a therapist, or self-med but stay closeted, or talk to trans women who were in similar situations but managed to get over their fears and see if they have any advice. or just repress everything indefinitely, but i wouldn't recommend that.

>>6917296
You forgot ED

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>>6917329
That was never an issue for me. As my dick turned into a wet noodle, I became sensitive elsewhere and invested in a collection of trashy Harlequins. Shall I regale you with the image of a hunky Scottish border lord? Wew. Those all-over orgasms.

>>6917191
A lot of women don't like the gender roles assigned to women either! Being a woman is not about conforming to stereotypes. You feel uncomfortable with being a man and would prefer to be a woman. That sounds trans to me (though, to be fair, I can't really tell with 100% accuracy based on one internet post).

You've been dealt a rough hand, sure. It is easier to pass if you're into performing what's expected of your gender. This doesn't mean you aren't trans though. Please don't hurt yourself. There's a way forward.

Are you seeing a therapist? Have you told them of your gender issues? How do you feel about potentially transitioning?

>>6917191
take datura

>>6917392
I've seen therapists in the past and have been to a psychiatric hospital twice as an inpatient

can't really say the therapy helped considering my current state

>>6917392
also when it comes to transitioning I'm pretty unsure about it because of my broad shoulders and big feet
feels like I'll never pass

>>6917449
1) Try to find a therapist that works for you if your financial situation allows this.
2) You honestly sound like you're pretty sure about what you want, so you should make effort to get it.

>>6917457
There are people who legit have no chance of passing, but a lot of people do and just think they don't. As long as your face and body aren't too bad you can overcome broad shoulders.