How to get a gay boyfriend? I'm tired of hook-ups

I want a boyfriend too... random sex is just depressing, I want the real experience, dates, movies, eating out, eating in, cuddling, all of that.
Plus sex.
Where are you from?

>>6897812
>>6897788
It's part of the lifestyle. Enjoy it or go back to your breeder friends.

Not OP but i live in NYC and it's stressing me out. I'm in my prime years and they're wasting away. I wanna be degenerate, but a monogamous one.

As dumb as it may sound Grindr is not (always) terrible, just be prepared to deal with a lot of idiots. Know what your looking for, tell them what your looking for, if both of your needs match up go on a date. Meet in a public place, don't go home with them on the first date or you'll just end up fucking. I met my partner through Grindr and though it's a shitty 'how did you meet' story I'm glad I didn't rule it out as an option...

t. A gushing homo

>>6897788
i wish i had cute boy with pink ears and he blushes when i tell him how cute and girly he is.

i can nibble on his ear and rub his tummy whilst spooning him on the sofa watching some adam sandler movie.

he can tell me all daily existential crisis and i'll reassure him it's all ok when i kiss him on his cheek and snuggle him in bed

we don't even need to have sex, he can be my girlfriend bestfriend and companion.

we could go out on dates and i'll walk him home like a teenage girl. The next day, i'll ring his parents to ask if he's home so we can hang out.

he can tell me all his problems and aspirations and i will listen to him, and he'll listen to me.

i wont be lonely.

>>6897812
I'm in Germany, Munich.

You?

>>6897846
>adam sandler movie
Dropped.

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>I've hooked up loads and been a gigantic slut
>Now I'm sick of that and want a bf
>Why can't I just find a good, loyal, monogamous bf?
How can anyone actually be this dense?
Pic related to hell and back.

>>6897887
Except I'm only 20 and still look like a boy

>>6897898
Doesn't make a difference.
You've been a slut and expect your sudden shift to monogamy to be taken well?
Sluts want to keep being sluts, and monogamists are very unlikely to trust you (and even if they do, will probably still feel very uncomfortable with your sexual history). You've reduced your dating pool to ex-sluts who suddenly wanted monogamy and you expect free bf hand-outs.
Face the facts. Life is shit, and if you didn't play it right early on, it's going to bite you in the ass.

>>6897898
pics

>>6897856
Dublin Ireland.

Well...it was a long shot.

would you like a gf? we're more interested in relationships.
t. girlfag

>>6897887
Now imagine being 30 with not much experience and good intentions, but all your natural matches being that slut.
Shitfuck that depresses me to no end.
Unless I somehow find a weird person who wants someone 10 years older and is not interested in the "dick carousel" (I never was either), I'm stuck with absolutely trashed 30 year olds in what feels like figurative (and potentially real) NTR. And if it's a guy, sure to have 500000000 stds, if it's a girl, they come in cute packs with their cute divorce kids.
I think it's been said before, but it's like watching a movie together only it's my first time seeing it and for the other person they've seen it 1000 times and they just keep checking their phone, walking to the fridge, falling asleep, talking in the middle of it. They're only watching it with me because it's raining outside and they have nothing better to do. It's just not fun.
I'm not bitter about that, they can do whatever they want with their life, but don't expect me to be interested.
It's still depressing to have so few choices :(
I just want someone I can connect with to share and do stuff together in a romantic way. It feels fake and disappointing to have to do that with someone who's being doing it all during his 20s and only wants a half-assed comfortable relationship for the sake of convenience. I want to feel loved, not become a disposable home appliance

>>6897936
Ah.. I guess you're right...
But I'm still young and dont intend to be a slut my whole life. I did it in my teens. Im done with that now.

>>6897943
Sorry I don't feel comfortable sharing my pics online. In case someone recognises me....

>>6897960
Yeah, another anon would be great as a bf

>>6897975
>would you like a gf?

I'm gay. Im not really interested in girls, trans or cis, doesnt matter.

>>6898016
>Unless I somehow find a weird person who wants someone 10 years older

I'm not against dating older guys, don't know about other guys my age tho.

>>6897960
Also Ireland here
Bi-curious desu

>>6897960
>>6898041

now kiss

>>6897846
>adam sandler movie.
stopped reading right there

>>6898055
T..this is a dating thread Anon! Casual sex is what they're trying to avoid!

>>6898079
Would probably keep him as my secret bf if he was cute and promised not to out me tbqh

>>6897846
I like Adam Sandler.

>>6898041
Oh cool. I guess that means you're not out yet. Neither am I really.

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>>6897846
>adam sandler

Besides that though you sound like a dream bf tbqh

>>6898096
How old are you?

>>6898101
22
and you?

>>6898117
19 lad
Don't think it'd work out unless you look a lot younger desu
Older lads just aren't my thing sorry :/

>>6898121
That's a 3 year age gap.
5 years down the line, you won't even notice it. Hell, you probably won't even notice it now; people don't age that fast. What are you doing?
Take.
The.
Fucking.
Opportunity.
Lad.

>>6898016
Is it weird being 30 and on this board?

>>6898130
Not if you're gay.

>>6898121
Ah well. Hope you find someone out there for you.

>>6898128
I'm not even sure im gay lad
Just wanna give it a go with a qt twink i can take care of to see if i like it

>>6898139
Why is that?

>>6898140
You too lad
Think there might be a gay or two on /éire/ on /int/
Pop in sure and see

>>6898144
I figure that by 30 you're sure of your sexuality. I mean, you could just be questioning. I dunno.

>>6898156
oh I was not questioning your sexuality, I was asking what it is like to be on 4chan at 30. Does it feel a little weird? I am often surprised at the age groups on this site seems to be anywhere from underage b8 and 60s.

>>6898168
Just shows to go ya, the internet really connects people. A place where teens and elders can discuss stories about getting blown.

>>6898168
Oldfags aren't immortal you know
They don't just stop posting after a certain age

>>6897975
>we're more interested to trick guys into relationships for having babies
fixed

>>6897829
BRUH I'm in nyc too and I feel the exact same way. How old are you though?

>>6898121
Jesus Christ you kids are basically the same fucking age.

>>6899621
19. Even if not in age range (so long as u not 30+) would be down to meet another normal gay person

>>6899694
19 as well, I'm totally down. Don't wanna share contact details on 4chan though, so now what?

Also define normal pls

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>that 30+ feel
I have a younger bf. He was lonely. I was nice to him. Wasn't really complicated.

People look in the wrong places. Like if you're a shy guy, why go out of your way to a bar or something where you're uncomfortable. You want a monogamous relationship? How about all the countless shut-ins here complaining about the very same thing. Granted, 4chan is anonymous but there are plenty of relationship oriented dating sites.

>>6897788
Why aren't you just asking how to get a boyfriend?

>>6899888
Because finding a bf is obviously different for:

-a staight woman
-gay boy
-trans woman (if she's not fully passing)

Since gay communities are notorious for being all about sex, it seems reasonable to specify what this thread it about.

>>6899888

>>6899986
Since this is LGBT I should have written "bisexual woman" instead of straight, but whatevs

over 30 anon here. of course it's weird to be here, we are outliers, this site skews young.

as to where to look for relationshit, i've found some success on okcupid in the past. internet is good because you can filter for what you want really aggressively, but it's bad because everyone is a blind date and you strike out more than you hit.

you could try joining an activity group. like doing X? then look for a group of gay Xers to just have fun. takes the meat market aspect out of it. though i haven't tried this yet myself.

>>6900007
>you could try joining an activity group. like doing X? then look for a group of gay Xers to just have fun. takes the meat market aspect out of it. though i haven't tried this yet myself.

Actualy really solid advice. thanks anon!

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>>6897846
>Tfw you'll never have this

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>>6897788
Living in a big city I imagine that it's actually a lot more simple as opposed to let's say, the suburbs or rural areas. Try the multitude of dating apps. Put yourself out there with one and you could strike up conversations.
Look into groups that are gay friendly regarding a hobby of yours. I know it might sound a bit slim but there's always a chance you could come across one.

There's a lot of options. If you really want it, it's out there for the taking.

Personally, I don't know how it happened for me. I ended up with two with no effort on my part.

>>6899727
U got discord?

>Almost every potential romantic partner has fucked over 3 people by my age (21)
>I'm a virgin, partly because I don't want to sleep around.
>Eventually my options will be 95% used goods or nothing
End me up tbdesu

What bugs me the most is that they don't even see what's wrong with their behavior. It's happening with hetero people too. Mainstream culture is treating the ability to fuck dozens of people endlessly as some sign of progress, but all it's doing is driving people further away from normality and turning everyone into a emotionally inept slut.

>>6900994
It's been that way for awhile for straight men; don't fuck 5 girls by the time you're married? Must be a major failure in who you are.

The big problem is that it's becoming the same for girls now when it's damaging for both genders.

>>6901017
Nah even so I'd argue the way in which people do it is damaging. People/men have always been able to go to bars, pick people up, but even that requires some minimum connection, a human interaction.

I'd also argue there's something weird about people just reveling in how much sex they have. Having 10 sexual partners by 25 is not the worst thing, but no need to broadcast it like it's an empowering thing to have anonymous sex.

>>6900985
>3 ppl
>used goods

holy shit you're a prude

>>6901216
this

>>6901216
Nigga I'm a virgin, how am I supposed to bond with someone who's "bonded" with every person who lets them.

>>6901953
You're doing this to yourself, a bond in a relationship is so much more than sex. Don't put so much importance on what society tells you is a real relationship, just do what makes you feel good & good things will come.

>>6897829
NYC here as well. This is not a good city for monogamy, at least not for me.

>>6902032
I know I'm doing this to myself and I wish I didn't feel this way. Until this thread I considered myself sex-positive; guess I'm just sexual exploration-positive.

>>6902082
C'mon anon, a twink's ex-slut experience can come in handy when you guys go intimate ;)

See, there's advantages to it too

>>6898130
I'm 30 but in denial so I keep doing the same things I did when I was 20.

>>6897887
I was going to post this, unless the person is a 10/10 in my book I'd never touch a person that has had random fucks before.

>>6900932
No but I can download it if its the only option

>>6899694
im 47, looking for my first encounter

>tfw just want a qt femboy/twink to cuddle with
>tfw chubby, hairy, and fairly ugly
I'm young so I've got time, but it still hurts lads.

>>6897788
>gay
>relationship
lel
pick one

>>6897788
Yeah sorry famiglia. This is unfortunately our lot in life.

Lesbians can at least form bonds passably until the bed death sets in and they break up. But gay men just don't do monogamy. Why do you think so many gay guys are single and say that they're hopelessly romantic and desperate for a husband, despite the fact that all they had were hookups on Grindr. Relationships are the exception that prove the rule, and are rarely stable - and when they are, it's because they're literal cucks.

Stable monogamous relationships are the domain of straight normies. Until you begin to accept this, you will never find happiness.

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>>6903880
>tfw chubby, hairy

Funny

I'm looking for a bf like that

>>6903880
I like chubby, hairy and ugly.

Nick Frost is no super model, but he's my husbando.

>>6903664
Oh ok LMAO. email me your skype which im sure you have: [email protected]

>>6903735
If you're 47 and never been with a gay person ever there's probably something wrong with you

I'm sorry but monogamy is slowly coming to a death crawl. Humans especially men we're never primitive monogamous in the first place. It is within our inherent nature to reproduce with as many partners as possible to not only diversify genetic make-up but to also increase probability that our offspring would survive.

Why do you think more and more marriages are entering the swinging lifestyle? Centuries of sexual deprivation conjured by religious obligations and superstitions is coming to an end.

Stop pissing and moaning and enjoy life with as many people as you can cuz when it's over... It's over.

>>6904010
>>6904130
You guys must be in the minority then because I've never met anyone attracted to that combination.

>>6900932
>>6904136
Fuck it, I downloaded discord and registered and all that. Now what?

>>6904308
post your discord tag, i'll add you

>>6904375
SpaceVan, and then the number that shows up next to it is 2708

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>>6904263
Oh well

I can't help love some weight on a guy. Especially groping him as I'm inside him

>tfw no chubby and cuddly bf to hug and fug on a winter night

>>6897846
Aside from the degenerate Jew comedy loving, you sound wonderful!

>>6897975
Would you be okay with being the guy in the relationship? Not necessarily more butch or masculine, just more confident and like leading and being the big spoon. Then, maybe.

>>6904592
Long shot but where you from?

>>6904687
Cali

What about you?

>>6904693
Ah, I'm a Canuckfag.

This thread is depressing. I really wish relationships were easier to find, everywhere you go all you hear about is hookups.

>will never find someone to be cute and affectionate with
>everyone just wants quick sex

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>>6904742
Man it would have been nice to meet you in person cuddly anon

>>6904786
You'll find your guy my dude.
We all will.

Any cute guys in NY willing to date a skinny latino homo? I'm also socially awkward and basically poor!
Some people find me attractive tho....anyone? No? Aw :/

>>6904836
I'm in NJ don't know if I would call myself cute tho

Any femboys or twinks interested in a sub muscle guy?

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Does this trigger you,
">tfw no bf" anons?

>>6904836
What kind of cute, where in NY?

>>6905900
FUCK YOU REEEEE
>>6905850
ayy
>>6904592
>>6904130
ayyy someone called me ?

>>6906993
Maybe I did lol

Califag here

Where you from?

frenchtwink here. never had random sex because I don't feel like it, I just want a cute bf

why can't I find one

>tfw twink and want a strong but pudgy bf to cuddle

>>6905900
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

> tfw can't find bf in the fucking middle of LA
JUST

>>6907437
What part of LA though? DTLA? West Hollywood?

>>6904448
I added u but not replies. wassup

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>be me
>be homosex
>talking to gt guy online
>seem to both be getting on well
>talk lots lsat night, even talking of dates etc
>havent heard from him at all today

Should I send him a message? Do I want the full day and send him one tomorrow?

What do anons?

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>>6897846
>adam sandler movie

>>6907389
where are you from? ou plutôt, d’où viens tu?

>>6907461
I'm at UCLA

>>6907889
He can't always be the initiator it's your turn
And don't take it personally if he seems disinterested some days are just like that

>>6908244
Yvelines et toi ?

>>6907889
Literally message him if you want to talk. If he doesn't like you and doesn't want to talk, nothing will change. If he does, well there you go, you win. He might be in the same boat as you.

>>6908349
Wish I could date you but I move to UCSB this weekend

All I want is a qt to take care of and have fun with, too bad all the bottoms here are colossal sluts. That or they want an open relationship and I don't like sharing.

>>6909201
Basically my struggle desu
When you find a twink that bottoms and wants monogamy but they're an insufferable cunt. We have to settle sometimes, right guys?

>>6909201
>>6909226
>tfw bottom
>tfw I want this
>tfw fat
I'm working on it! By next year, I will be cute!

>>6897788
i agree, i dont want a one night stand or just a date with an anonymous slut, i would rather have an LTR or even possibly get married, if i could find the right partner that is easy going and not a drama queen

>>6909239
Meant to say new years, not next year.

>>6909239
>tfw fat

You can be fat and cute though

At least in my eyes

>>6909226
I don't care what they look like as long as they aren't obese, I'm not limiting myself to twinks. It's just that absolutely nobody seems to want monogamy, at least around here. All these guys suck 100k dicks and become aids ridden zombies by 25 then wonder where they went wrong.

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>>6909283
Wow thanks, anon. I lost 20 pounds over the summer so I am making progress. I'm 160 pounds right now and I'm trying to hit 140. Looking to hit this body type. Maybe just a tad thinner.

>>6909294
How do you look right now though anon?

>>6909369
My arms are pretty skinny and my thighs are pretty thick. The main concern is my gut which I have shrunk from exercising but I still have yet to get to a flat stomach. My ass is getting pretty well-defined though, squats are doing wonders. I just have to figure out what I want to do with my hair and get a good lotion for my skin. I also have a cute face, so that's taken care of. I expect to be ready in two months if I keep my exercise regiment up.

>>6909393
Also for height, I'm 5'9".

>>6909393
>>6909406
You sound pretty cute anon

>>6909414
Well thank you, I've been called cute before and it's always awesome to here I'm becoming cute. You're so sweet anon.

>>6909420
>here
I meant to type hear, I always type too fast.

>>6909393
See I'm not even sure. I find really thin tummies cute but ones with a little chub on them are nice to touch when you're spooning. The picture you posted is actually pretty attractive. good luck on your goal anon.

>>6909481
I'll try to stay a little thick, I don't want to be a complete twig. Thanks for the wishes, anon! Best of luck to you in whatever you're working on at the moment!

>>6909487
Ayyy thanks. I'm getting back into the gym and trying to learn French. The latter is much harder.

>>6909491
Quelle hasard! J'apprend français aussi. J'avais cours français en lycée et maintenent j'apprends du internet, c'est une langue jolie!

>>6909512
I'll try to hide my jealousy.
Is French your first language?

>>6909519
Second, I'm Canadian.

>>6909519
nvm i just translated what you said. I'm a beginner go easy on me ;-;

>>6909522
Ah! Let me ask; how do you get the pronunciation down? Some of the most basic sounds in the language are so foreign to my American mouth.

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>>6897788
If there are always threads like these, why not make a zeemaps so we can find each other?

>>6909525
Tu ne t'inquiète pas! Tu veux apprendre français et cette decision-là est super.
>>6909534
There should be basic pronunciation guides on Youtube for each sound. Start from there and then sound out some basic words. Should take some practice but hang in there, you'll produce an accent soon enough.

>>6909545
Awesome, thanks. I'm gonna do you proud, anon.

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>>6909558
Magnifique! Je crois en toi!

>>6907361
>tfw not americuck
>>6909201
kek

>>6897788
Find someone like minded and learn how to make a relationship work. It involves compromise and tenacity.

Or more bluntly, you aren't going to like everything he does and vice versa and you'll both need to reach a happy middle ground + honesty + not getting pissed + actual legit lunacy. Some good ideas are never sleep pissed, let shit go, don't lie about feelings, and literally priorities commitment over 24/7 bliss. Establish deal breakers and ignore all other problems. For me it's lies. Must be able to trust. Also physical violence is bad. Just about anything else can be forgiven.

Worked for me. Been in a relationship 10 years. Even got married. Can't even imagine what being single would be like anymore. There is no me anymore, only we.

Play chess, dress well, get educated, fight cock off with a stick until an acceptable cock tries to hump your leg, even after you've rejected it. That cock is your bitch now. Use it as you will.

>>6908658
haute garonne ^^'

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>>6904010
>tfw i'm chubby and hairy too
>never met one in real life

I feel like you're one of those rich people that say "Money can't buy happiness", god sake.

I want to live with a man, but in this country homophobia and can not marry.

>>6897788
>What are good places to look for guys willing to try long term relationships?

Any place JUST CLEARLY STATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LONG TERM, NOTHING ELSE. Also, find someone who doesn't mind your low IQ.

>>6897846
t. pedo

>tfw skinnyfat and a total dork
>live in literally the gayest city in the country
>all gay guys here are the 'get blackout drunk three times a week' type
>either that or 40 years old
>online dating has been unsuccessful
fug

>too hairy and chubby
>by the time I'll have my goal body, no cute femboy will ever want a monogamous relationship with me
s u f f e r i n g

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any UK cute bois here then?
i wana get to know you and see if i wana whisper bad memes into your ears

no sluts :l

>>6910879
Good advice, read it.

>>6910879
i felt this feel then he left me for no reason

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>>6911909
where are you from anon? Sussex but moving to Yorkshire for uni soon

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>>6912462
i live in wales in some small shitty town
makes it even harder to meet people.

>>6908658Yvelines aussi ! ^^ Versailles =p

>>6912581
that's the problem with small towns

you wont meet anyone until you move out desu

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>>6897846
>you will never have someone like this
>you will never be someone's qt shy blond bf
REEEEEE WHY DO I HAVE TO LACK THE SOCIAL SKILLS NEEDED TO CHAT UP A QT DOM GUY WHY IS LIFE SO UNFAIR REEEEEE

>>6911058
T'es loin, t'es étudiant ?

>>6912657
Je connais un peu Versailles, moi je suis près de Rambouillet dans une petite ville
Tu fais quoi dans la vie ?

>>6912135
I know its a meme, but I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. I want to fuck like a rabbit, but with a partner. I'm super horny and could probably masturbate multiple times a day (if I didn't have class or work) but I've been in relationships that have gone years without sex. When you love someone, you can wait. Delayed gratification is part of being mature. Too many people think you can be either a shallow slut that only cares about sex or a high-minded person who cares for the other person for them. Sex is an important part of a relationship, and when I love someone I want to fuck a lot. I can't help that, but it doesn't mean I'm going to force it if the other person wants to wait or just wants to be intimate without sex.
desu

>>6904252
>Centuries of sexual deprivation conjured by religious obligations and superstitions is coming to an end.
There's been research done and prudence is said to have correlated with civilizations success.

>>6913086
At least we have some fun before nuking the Earth to smoldering piles of glass.

>>6913086
>prudence is said to have correlated with civilizations success
{{Citation needed}}

>>6913050
oui, je suis étudiant, et oui, on peut dire que Toulouse, c'est à une trotte de Rambouillet ^^

>>6913252
Tu fais quoi comme études ? (je sais pas quoi faire alors je demande un peu à tout le monde)

>>6913347
droit. Depuis maintenant une semaine, c'est sympa, surtout dans une ville étudiante comme toulouse !

>>6913355
Tu sais ce que tu vas faire plus tard ? Ouais j'imagine que ça doit être sympa comme ville quand t'es étudiant

>>6913375
ça part contre, aucune idée. Ca dépendra de mon succès aux exams, y'a pas mal de débouchés de toute façon... Et toi du coup?

>>6913389
Bonne chance alors!

Moi je sais pas je galère, j'ai des idées mais rien qui me plaise vraiment au point de me lancer dans des études. En attendant je bosse (wagecuck :( ) pour mettre de côté

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>>6897788
I can't find a bf who wants a loving relationship, just sex, why cant i find a qt who wants to actually love me

>>6897820
>or go back to your breeder friends.
It's not a simple as that mate.

>>6897887
That's a really shitty image and a really shitty outlook that you have. Your youth is meant to be spent having fun and making mistakes. It's a learning experience for most of us. The fact that you're so bitter towards those who've had a wilder lifestyle than you up until now proves you've "wasted" your own life, just in a more anti-social way.

>>6898016
Why do you build up these strawmen as the only potential partners for yourself? Don't you realize that everyone isn't necessarily the worst person that they could possibly be?

I'm approaching thirty and I used to be all about rough, abusive, impersonal sex (the "dick carousal" if you prefer) and I thought that's what I'd always want. I got a taste of gentler and more affectionate love a while back and I've come to realize that's what I actually need in my life. It turns out, simply cuddling with a guy does more for me than huffing amyl nitrate and being choke-fucked from behind ever did. I know that sounds stupidly obvious to you, but these phases are necessary for some of us (particularly in the gay community).

I want a proper relationship with a guy who actually cares about me and respects me. If you find the apparent implications of your movie analogy depressing, how do you think it makes someone like me feel? I don't have any STDs and the prospect of being with a less sexually experienced partner isn't at all off-putting anymore. The only reason you "have so few choices" is because you've accepted these stereotypes. Your limitations are self-imposed.

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>>6915266

>Tfw I'm a 20 year old virgin

>Tfw the guys I date just want to buy me a fuck ton of drinks, drag my ass to a hotel room and pump me full of cum.

>Tfw when I date women, it usually goes well until the 3rd date or so when they seem to get apprehensive and nervous and don't seem to want to talk as much as during the first 2 dates. Usually I have 2 or so more dates with them before they stop talking to me for what seems like no reason at all.

>Tfw when I go online people always whine about not finding any cute boys to date, or complain about sluts who just want to get in their pants.

>>6912666
yup
id move right now but broke
feelsbad

>>6913050
Je suis ingé en biotech, je connais pas mal de filières vu que j'ai aussi fait de l'enseignement. Si tu es intéressé on peut en parler sur Skype ? Valoo7 ajoute moi ;)

How do you find a boyfriend that's not a bleeding heart liberal? Even here in Calgary it's impossible.

>18 in the army can never even find a gay guy let alone bf material

>>6913468
Are you cute?

a-any canada bros out there..?

>>6926457
Western Canada here!

>I got offered a date in exchange for a blowjob
Hitler was right.

>>6897856
wtf, fucking islamophobe
stop desecration of Allah, you kuffar
death is the only cure

>>6909393
was wondering, what is your exercising routine and diet?

>>6930923
Crunches, Squats, Arm Curls

And one can pretty much eat anything if you watch how much you eat. Try to limit your dairy and increase both your carbs and fruit.

>>6929225
>desecrate my boypussy

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>>6897846
>adam sandler movie

Learn to sift through the shit. Don't jump into bed right away. Get to know each other as people before sleeping with them. If they move on because they're not getting a dicking, then they obviously aren't worth your time.

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>>6931213
Also see this, and do cardio at least once a week.