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Thread for those who feel unwelcome among younger and more successful transitioners

Feels as if these threads need more direction, topics for discussion so here are some suggestions
>Post about transition related things you're struggling with (E levels, laser etc)
>Post non-passing mtfs who started HRT young
>Debate the existence of young hons

Rules

>1. Must have started HRT at age 24 or later
>2. Life my be or is projected to be unhappy and full of disappointment
>3. No pics
>4. No trips
>5. No drama
>6. Posts can contain positive elements but must overall be generally negative

Previous thread >>6769168 (You) (Cross-thread)
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BOYCOTT THIS THREAD

ATTENTION WE HAVE BEEN INVADED BY THE YOUNG TROLLS

SAGE AND LET THIS DIE SO WE CAN MAKE A REAL HONGEN

REMEMBER THIS THREAD IS AN HRT AT 24 OR LATER THREAD. ANYONE WHO STARTED EARLIER IS NOT ALLOWED
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>>6868766
What's wrong with this thread?
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>>6868702
Are you [pic related] anon? When did you start?
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pls change it to /honk/ so at least it's funny
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>>6868766
There can be 24+ y/o successful transitioners and hons who are younger than 24 because of genetics. Though most early transitioners can expect better results and which of them are hons and which are not is debatable.

I think discussion would be nice but maybe the majority doesn't want it.

>>6868840
You can do this. Then discussion and memes can commence.
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>>6868702
>ftw turning 24 in a month and starting HRT in 2 weeks

I-I'm not a hon as a result, right? Right?
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>>6868848
(don't actually care what label I am as long as I have tits)
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>>6868809
It's a pic I found on reddit

She's 20 and started HRT 2 years ago

>no hips
>man face
feels good
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>>6868848
You're a hon, welcome to the club
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>>6868766

>REMEMBER THIS THREAD IS AN HRT AT 24 OR LATER THREAD. ANYONE WHO STARTED EARLIER IS NOT ALLOWED

fuck off, you can start before 24 and still be a hon.
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>>6868884

Yeah I started at 21 and I'm a hon.
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>>6868702
Must have started hrt at 24 or later..? Starting before 24 doesn't mean you aren't a hon.
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>>6869195
Starting hormones after 24 automatically makes you a hon, no exceptions, hun.
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>>6869173
I started at 19, ~8 months in atm, and I'm probably going to be a hon. I do seem to have gotten a bit of hip growth though, so """yay""".

> tfw tall
> tfw broad shoulders
> tfw large ribcage
> tfw strong brow bone
> tfw wide jaw
> tfw hair loss
> tfw high torso length / leg length ratio
> tfw large skull
> tfw large nose
> tfw large hands and feet

At least I'm nonbinary, so I only want to be androgynous (as if that's ever going to happen :/)
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>>6869225
<---
She started at like 33, not a hon. It all about genetics.
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>>6869225
You are either literally autistic or didn't read my post since it said nothing about those who transition post 24 years old.

P.S.
Started hrt at 20 and I'm posting here. Fuck the po-lice
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>started just before 26
>perpetual man face
I transitioned from alpha and looking like a gay man
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>>6869492
>man face
At least that doesn't have anything to do with age you started HRT so no regrets
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>>6869499
What is the problem then? Body measurements?
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i pass
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>>6869499
At about 15 or 16 I was such a cute emotional twink
Then at 17 puberty wrecked me and I looked just as manly as now
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>>6869654
GET. OUT.
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>>6869307
Maybe not a hon, but an ugly woman
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>>6869674
Another passer here. Small underbust (29.5" ribcage), wide hips even pre-HRT, shoulders that aren't wide, FFS paid for by my parents. About to get Yeson VFS.

Suck it hons.
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>>6868702
>tucking hair behind an ear
I seriously hope you guys dont do this
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>>6869708
Congrats! I'm really happy for you!
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>>6869499
yes it does though you retard
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>>6869499
That masculine jaw
That prominent chin

I dunno
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>>6869708
you are among your honsisters now, you don't have to lie to us to make you feel better about yourself

come on hon
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is 35" ribcage bad?

give it to me straight doc
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Started HRT at 32, pass at 33.

Serious tips...
If you are going to transition, don't cannonball into it, You'll only be viewed as a train-wreck.
Take your time and go andro, don't rush full time.
Wear appropriate clothing. Shouldn't need explanation, but yeah, certain clothes on certain body types can make you look like a hon.
Laser asap.
Practice your goddamn voice!!!

If you think you need FFS, you are probably right.
You can get things done one at a time, it's not a race, it's about stopping your dysphoria.
If you pay your bills and have credit you can take out loans for the surgeries.

You can be a late transitioner and not be a hon. You can not pass and still not be a hon, but for fucks sake don't become a hon.
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>last 8 honey-pills
Hold me hons
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>>6872009

Good advice.
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>>6869225
that's only true if you have shit tier manly genes
>>6869307
she's a hon tho
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>>6872169
Maximum retard achieved
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are hip implants a possible thing?

>>6872009
thanks hon. although i wonder about your genetics
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>>6872255
not an mtf, but hip implants are very much a thing
>discovered them while researching if i can get my hip bones shaved down
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>>6871970

Yes, anything >32 is pretty bad tbhfampai
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>>6872596
>>6871970
it's all about the ratios hons
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What should these be if I'm 5'9?

Chest: 37.5
Bust: 39.5
Underbust: 33.5
Waist: 31
Shoulders: 17
Hip: 42

Do I have a chance?
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>>6871970

How do you measure this, hon? Where?
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>>6872793
>Shoulders: 17
good hon
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>>6872267
what made this person think hip implants were more of a priority than getting rid of those stretchmarks?
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>>6873814
can you even do anything about stretch marks like that? anyway it's a pretty good hip improvement. i'll deffo have to look into it

>>6872793
leave then kys.
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passers must die
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>wake up
>feel a little bit cute
>check the mirror
>see an ugly faggy boy with an autistic eyes staring at me back
ugh
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>>6879579
You know, a lot of ciswomen aren't cute either. Don't make such a huge deal of it, not everyone gets to be pretty.
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>>6879585
i would do anything to just look like an ugly woman but instead i look like an ugly boy :/
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>>6872615
>it's all about the ratios
h-how fucked am I?

Height: 5'11
Chest: 34.6
Bust: 36.2
Underbust: 32.6
Waist: 30
Shoulders: 17
Hips: 40.5
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>>6879614
not at all fucked, dumbotron. leave.
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>>6879627
how do you know? i still have a total honface though
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>>6879632
well your shoulders should be something like 42" (i'm guessing you did width for god knows what reason)

so right off that bat you're FUCKING FINE goddamn your hips are basically as wide
and an under 33" underbust too? seriously fuck off
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>>6879683
>i'm guessing you did width for god knows what reason
okay, i measured the circumference (the green line, pic related) and it's 44 so i previously measured it wrong obviously
>you're FUCKING FINE
no, i am a total hulkhon thanks to my shoulders :/
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>>6879797
44 for deltoidal width is the mean for cis women, you mongoloid pissbag.
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>>6879835
l-lies
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>>6872596
That would make roughly 50% of all cis women hons.

Try leaving your house once in a while. Porn does not reflect real women's sizes very well.
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>>6879841
http://www.livestrong.com/article/484806-the-average-shoulder-width-for-females/

"Because of the added width contributed by these soft tissues, the average adult female shoulder width is just under 17 inches or 43 cm."

The fuck.ups in these threads are literally no different from teenage girls running bullimia support sites to feed into each others impossible body standards. I despise all of you.
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>>6879888
>"Because of the added width contributed by these soft tissues, the average adult female shoulder width is just under 17 inches
Thank God for that

Nice to have something going for me
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so my bod is okay but i still have a major horseface and an adrien brody nose with those big masculine pores
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Have any of you ever looked at actual statistics about body proportions?

http://humanics-es.com/FireFighterAnthropometry.pdf

Variation in proportions among cis women is big. (And this won't nearly cover all of it since presumably the overwhelming majority of the women in this statistic are physically at great condition since they're firefighters.)

Even if you are 95th percentile in a category, that only means in a room of 20 cis women, there would likely be at least one who is bigger in that regard than you are. Even if you are 99th percentile, you'll walk past several women bigger than you if you took a stroll in the city.
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>>6880024
I'm more concerned about my face

Think I'm going to have to go to a different laser clinic. That's what I get for being so cheap.
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>>6880034
>I'm more concerned about my face
tfw itkf
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>>6880034
I'm not saying you shouldn't do anything about your face, but I'm certain it doesn't look as bad to others as it does to you.
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>>6880024

That was a very interesting document. Some of the ciswomen measured are massive by female standards. Although they're measuring athletic women suited for firefighting rather than the general population.
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>>6880131
>Some of the ciswomen measured are massive by female standards

That's what happens when you look at a bell curve, ya fucking dumbo. Again proving my point that you never looked at any sort of statistic, yet feel valid at chuckling "43?!? Hon hon hon hon hon hon. (<--that's the sound of your spazzo laughter.)
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>>6880057
My facial features are fine, nothing terrible, nothing outstanding

It's just that it's impossible to remove beard shadow from certain areas of my face with shaving.
I'd be a lot more calm and relaxed if shaving twice a day to keep my face clear was an option but it isn't, I always have some darkness around my jaw
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>>6880166
Do you use concealer?
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>>6880156

I think your confusing me with someone else. I also think its stupid how trannies here assume that ciswomen cannot be thick and stocky.
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>>6880192
No because I can't go girlmode until I've finished laser, I would just feel silly and too self conscious
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>>6880217
There are very thick cis women in the Olympics but they're hardly the norm, people would certainly give them a few glances and even accuse them of being male
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>>6880221
You'll feel silly and self-concscious if you go girlmode with laser the first time. Is it really worth enduring going outside as a man every day just so people MIGHT not think you are trans?
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>>6880224
>people would certainly give them a few glances and even accuse them of being male

Anon, Kawaii Shoujo Pantsu Adventure was not a documentary. Real women generally do not look like petite anime waifus.
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>>6880228
>going outside
ha, good one

NEET here
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im i consider a hon if i dress like a gay boy
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>>6880241
Fuck off
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>>6880264
:( all u trannies are mean
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>>6880241

What a babe
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>>6880305
heheheheh thankss
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>>6880241

Young Kim Kardashan?
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>>6880241
someone should pour gasoline over your head and light you the fuck up like a christmas tree

again
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>>6880352
again? that had never happened to me lol
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>>6880352
it will happen one day, he probably lives in some south american shithole where they hate faggots
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>>6880458

Not if I marry her while you ugly hons die alone
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>>6880471
>beta cuck nu male spotted
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I'm 19 and I want to transition, yet I can't. I live in a third world country, and not only are my parents quite against it, but the cost of HRT here is sky high, especially for a 19 year old.

To give you an idea, the minimum wage here is around 2-3 dollars an hour on average. Self medding is ridiculously expensive combined with my other expenses, and going through a therapist might me hard.

Of course I still have to worry about someone murdering me for being trans.

You know what, it's actually getting easier to repress at this point, because I realise it's beyond my control. If the dysphoria hits me too hard again then I can always just kill myself.
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>>6880795
aids patient meeting with the press.webm
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>>6880471
<3
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>>6869668
r u me
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>>6880844
>19
fuck off, this is hon gen
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>>6880892
I'll land up a hon though. It's inevitable
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>>6880927
You're welcome back then
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>>6880241
Holy shit can you stop spamming?!
First spamming your pics in /femgen/ and /mtfg/ and shit and now here?
Honestly, get a better hobby.
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>>6880795
scoping that mega64 sweatshirt
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Is my body hon enough to post here
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>>6868702
holy fuck please be my gf
if thats actually you
im transbian scum
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>>6883266

I stumble into lgbt sometimes ('straight' in that "i'll top anything that looks pretty" way) and I'd fucking shreck that body.
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>>6883266
back to susans with you
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I hate existing
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>>6869307
he was hotter as a male
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m i qt?
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>>6868702
why did this have to be 24 damn it.. i dont want to be a hon
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>>6884991
disgusting and degenerate but not a hon

>>6883455
welcome, friend.
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>>6883266
>massive dadbelly
>manly looking navel
yeah sure, welcome hon
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>>6885033

Cis women actually look like that tho.
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>>6883266
how dare you post your cis female bod here? this is a thread for hons with masc honfaces and masc honbodies only reeee
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Be making a last ditch effort to get out of this club, will be doing jaw and chin by end 2016. If after everything I'm still ugly and unattractive, I'll just off myself.
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Hon life is shit
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>>6885562
>>6885994
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>6885562
>>6885994
Both of you look nice. Not perfect but nice.
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>>6885033
What even is the difference between a man and woman's navel? It's literally a bellybutton. I don't get it
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>>6886276
woman's navel = narrow, almond-shaped
man's navel = round/wide, looks like a butthole
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>>6886315
That's literally bullshit and you know it lol Go on Google and type in "hot women" and look at their belly buttons. While I will admit that narrow and almond-shaped is more visually appealing, it is not limited by gender at all. Why are 4chan trannies so salty?lol You guys need to get out more.
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>>6869307
both versions of you are sexy, i am bi and i would gladly dance the tango or the horizontal bop with you handsome
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>>6885994
Please stop trolling.
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>tfw 6'2"

Can i make it?

22 and planning on losing weight before starting mones.
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>>6886336
bro you are just resentful because you have a dudenavel, lmao
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>>6879888
What about proportions?
Mine are 15.8 in. but they are fucking massive.
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>>6886082
>Both of you look nice. Not perfect but nice.
I'm the first pic and I always get rated 2 to 5 at most out of 10 on this board, feeling really hurts :/
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>>6886336
Look at "her" shoulder/hips ratio. Clocked.
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>>6885033
nice try, hon
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>>6887979
>really hurts :/

then stop posting r8 me pics.
you are doing it to yourself.
love yourself.
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>>6888215
but I want to know what I have to change in order to move up the ladder
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I used to think that being a hon would be the worst thing ever, but it seems men are so desperate for sex, and there are so many with a wide variety of fetishes that even hons can pick any man they want if they even have a semblance of femininity.
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>>6889041
>it seems men are so desperate for sex, and there are so many with a wide variety of fetishes
tell me your secrets fellow sisterhon
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>>6889041
being a hon is the worst thing ever
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redpill me on male sexuality, /hung/
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>>6889041
Then you aren't really a hon. I'm gonna be a fucking wizard because of my appearance, so I don't think the avg dude is that thirsty.
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I could be a football player without the armour ;_;
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>wake up
>still an icky hopeless manhon
just kys my shit up, pham
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>>6896024
thanks mx. skeletal
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24
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>>6868702
I'm seeing all of this transgendered shit all over other boards, and I'm sick of it. Please keep this mental ill sick fetish on here and stay away from my beloved, sacred boards. Why must you cancer up the rest of 4chan, you sick, disgusting mentally ill crazed freaks.
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>>6896090
in response to your post, i think i'll make a few tranny threads in some other boards
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>>6884991
What was her tumblr again?
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>>6868702

You'll be fine
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>>6897377
Thanks
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>>6898166
you won't be fine
kys
>>6897377
and you kys as well for trying to hugbox anyone in a hon thread
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I'm ugly and awful and fat, etc etc.
I hate it.
I can't stop imagining myself getting the shit kicked out of me by some unseen person, and imagining insults about myself.
I think I actually might have a slight multiple personality thingy, or something, because i feel like I bully myself almost.
Other general insecure bullshit, ofc.
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I wonder what the real reason for this thread is
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It is probably for intentional MK ULTRA-style shilling and intel cucks to cuck around
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>>6899229
>Thread for those who feel unwelcome among younger and more successful transitioners
recently coopted by said transitioners to twist the knife in hons
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>>6899239
Being self absorbed and contemptuous rather than likable no matter who you are is unattractive
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>>6899246
being a hon is unattractive regardless of attitude
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>>6899246
not to mention, it's the same asshole move as a bunch of cis girls invading mtfg just to tease trannies about not being cis and then taking over to discuss their cis things
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>>6899248
It's a contrived phenomenon used only for shilling and to be contemptuous on places like /lgbt/
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>>6899248
With the traditional relationships of people, independent of the variables of a person being trans or on the internet you have the younger generation who are our future and that's one reason we love children so much.... But to make it the object of contempt is likely shilling or just 4chan-esque spite-shitposting which is not necessarily so sensational in real life as it seems here on4chan
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I've learned many things from elderly people just as I'm sure younger people have learned from me.... Just as I learn from people younger than me or someone older from me learns from me

Posts like this on /lgbt / is just shilling (thus I ask for the real reason it's here) or just rogue contempt which I think is generally always unnattractie
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>>6899286
Unattractive* (sp)
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>>6899259
>>6899270
>>6899286
"ok"
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>>6899299
Yeah the first part of being attractive comes from the inside.... 'naturally' attractive if you will, rather than being a cuck wearing a dress or a rapacious superficial little disturber of the peace
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>>6896279
"her" name is farrah flawless
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Started at 23 and 10months, I have been almost 3 months on hormones and Im already developing small titties, I was hoping to hide the changes for a year or a year and a half until I finish college and moved from my parents house.
Im not as bad as I used to think I was, but I still wish I was better.
Also Im really afraid of how Im going to stop being a guy and start being a girl, I dont want to do it while Im still in college but thats like 1 year (if lucky) and 2 years from now
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>>6901801
>Im not as bad as I used to think I was
semi passer get out reeeeeee
only hopeless cases are allowed to post in this thread
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>>6901834
seconded
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Do I count as a hon if I'm pre HRT?
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>>6902378
Well I don't know if I actually ever will transition, so wouldn't I be a de facto perma hon or something?

But lemme answer the questions

-yes
-no
-no
-no
-no
-no
-yes
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>>6902409
fuck off
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>>6902850
No u
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>>6902378
your standards are too accepting
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>>6904176
hey those standards are too rigorious
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>>6905839
no, this thread is for hons..
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>>6905895
by making the criteria too rigorous, you're going to exclude a lot of other hons and give them false hope
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>>6906311
the purpose of this thread is for hons to commiserate, not fake hons to make fun of real ones
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>>6902378
You used your own measurements to create this list didn't you.
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>started at 20
>1 year HRT
>still hon
>wear girl clothes almost exclusively and wear makeup whenever I go out
>work on posture, gait etc. and keep speaking to a minimum
>still never been gendered female once by a stranger
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>>6907651
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Can I even be a hon if I didn't even take hrt ever?..
also whats my chances here. I'm 19
>inb4 monkey with a camera
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>>6907914

You'll be fine, Harambe.

Lucky you black women and men are both masculine in bone structure and in socialization.
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>>6907914
nigga you girly already
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>Be me
>Be 34
All hope is lost
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>>6908030
>>6908058
>>6907914

Should I show full body pic then? I did it the other day but I blocked out my face and my thread is gone :(
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>>6908093
Why do retards think putting those things in their ears made them look anything other than disgusting
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I'm a freak.
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>>6908105
>opinions, how do they work
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>>6908174
>stretching the skin of my ears until they sag like a senile woman's tits is attractive
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>>6908105
Yeah! And while we're at it. What about those dudes that try to dress like women even though they have overly masculine features? Disgusting retards, am I right!
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>>6908182
I like them
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>>6908096
>Should I show full body pic then?
Sure why not.

Also if you can go on HRT right now you should, don't do it like me and start on your 27th anniversary.

All you younger fucks can at least have a chance of not being hons.
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>massive manly forhead
>large jooish nose
>alpha jaw and chin
Starting hrt at 24 was a mistake.
Wish I could afford FFS but >target
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>>6908258
You look fine from that angle
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>>6908258
I love your hair so much!
and you le pass just fine, your jaw and chin are fine.
I'm previous picture poster
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>>6908274
Are you on hrt?

There are plenty of women with similar jawlines. I feel like if you grew your hair out to frame your face it wouldn't be so bad
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>>6908272
>>6908274
that's someone trolling w cis pic
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I honestly wish I could but I dont even know where to start self meds and I could do actualy hrt with the doctors and stuff and I tried.. but there was so many appointments and test and it felt like i was running out of time and already too late..
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>>6908291
nah I haven't even thought about transitioning for a while. I stopped hrt when I was 19 since I couldnt afford it. I'm fine with being masculine but I like wearing makeup on the odd occassion.
that being said I do have some extra income now and I plan on growing my hair out and putting more effort in to my appearance.
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>>6908291
Yeah for almost a year. Hairs long, i just have most of it up in a palmtree.
>>6908305
If only
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>>6908353
I guess so lol
stay lovely people
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>>6908356
Wait I'm dumb youre fine!
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>>6908306

>I honestly wish I could but I dont even know where to start self meds
Use a search engine or read the sticky in /hrtg/.

>not knowing something means you cant do it
>2016
>well into the internet era where an unfathomable amount of information is available within a few keystrokes

Why don't you at least put a modicum of effort into it?
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>>6907659
You have the bone structure of a male model

Shame it doesn't translate at all to being a woman
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>>6868702
Damn you look self actualized as fuck, humans were absolutely meant to take hormones and transition, you're definitely not a weak faggot wasting the ONE (one) shot at life you'll have indulging your sissy fetish or pathetic mental illness, kek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga
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>>6868702

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f75QGq1lpeI
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>>6885562
You are cute. Cute! If you are anywhere near me, be my fucking valentine.
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>>6910875
yeah I know
it's a right fucker of a situation
I could have been a 7-8/10 andro male but I threw it away to be a 0/10 hon
tbf I didn't start transition til after dysphoria got so bad I attempted suicide so it's not like I didn't try to avoid being a tranny
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>>6911572

Like you don't seem unpassable really from those pics.
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>>6911853
Don't lie

Very obvious manface
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>>6908093
You actually have pretty decent chances for passing, Get out.
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>>6908306
are you currently posting your ass on /b/???
if so, please get better clothes
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lmao all these people whining and crying when they pass just fine
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>>6908306
I'll bet you're at least 6ft if not more. That facial structure too.
Yeah I don't see you passing any time soon.
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what is hon?
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>>6907914
hi jay z
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>>6910945
Funny, I always get rated a 2/10 to a 5/10 at most, not sure if you are hugboxing or trolling but for the off chance you are serious, thanks
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>>6913407
shit-tier moba
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>>6908306
thug life
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>>6907659
l dont see a difference lol
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>>6913761
I wasn't trolling or anything like that. Rate threads are for fags anyway desu
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do anyof you ever feel an urge to bash some passable mtf nose into their brains and then break every bone in their body, starting with the ribcage, moving to the pelvis and finally the spine.
Or to trick one into meeting you, you kidnap the fuker and force T shots tillit becomes manly again or to rip their face off and use it as a blanket?
Maybe even go full barothy and bathe in their blood.
is this normal?
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>>6918037
Perfectly normal, I do the same

The young ones especially annoy me, regardless of whether or not they pass
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>>6918037
>thinking any white knight would let some ugly manbeast assault a young woman
yeah no, youre the one getting your nose bashed into your brains :^)
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>>6918037
B-bitter hon detected... I g-guess...
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>>6918433
i could overpower any white knigth.
hon for a reason.
>>6918450
more like psycho tranny but yeah
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>>6880795
post your feet, they look cute
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alternatives to transitioning to an almost future hon?
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>>6918860
Kill your self
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>>6918883
i dont want to go alone.
thats stops me for now.
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>>6868702
You look like Martin Shkreli desu
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>>6918886
*that
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fuck offf you ugly bitch
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>this thread

do you trannies really fucking bully each other and shit? lmao
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>>6917278
In that case, thanks, would be happy to be your valentine :)
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>>6918924
This thread devolved into mtfg2.0
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>>6918924
they think they're women, but they hate women out of envy
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>>6885003
sheen looks passable for age
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if suicide rates pre- and post- HRT/Transition are nearly identical then what is the actual motivation to do that other than LARPing as a girl irl?

And let's face it -- it IS role playing.

So why fucking bother? Why not just stay repressed, or even role-play in an environment where our actual bodies are of no consequence (the fucking INTERNET is great for that)?

please respond
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>>6919243
because you can't avoid looking at yourself forever
plus the false sense of hope makes it difficult not to try
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>>6919254
>can't avoid looking at yourself

why not just do what disfigured people, naturally ugly people, and disgustingly fat people do every single day and get over yourself..?

I mean it sucks, yeah, but role playing as what you -want- to be isn't gonna make that pain go away any more effectively than just looking in the mirror, saying "eh, that's unfortunate, but I'm used to it" and going on with your day.
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>>6919182
she looks 50 m8
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>>6919243
even if it's just like you say or wishful thinking,
it gives them hope and so it's allowed

if you look at mtfg, there is plenty of role playing
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>>6919267
no where to go in a neet cave
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>>6918926
<3 for some reason, your happiness makes me happy
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>>6919243
because if you kill yourself AFTER then you lived a bit longer and got to be happy for a while
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>>6919311
You're right, everyone calls me middle aged because I look it despite being 32
It still hurts
nothing will ever get better
I will lose this weight and still be unemployed and look 50
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Should I kill myself now or later?
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>>6924480
You don't look bad at all.... That is obviously a humble picture
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>>6869307
Don't get the criticism here. I'm a gay dude and even I find her more attractive on the right. Then again she just looks very boring pre-transition.
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>>6924480
wow
sup franco lol
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>>6924521
Smoking some joints with Seth, talking about movie ideas. What you up to?
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>>6924480
when you and the crew dropping pineapple express 2?
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>>6924691
Obviously I can't go into too much detail about any unannounced products but I can say that I've been talking to Seth and we have something in production that we think the fans are really going to love. It's something that's really going to go back to our roots as we're trying to stray away from making movies like The Interview (not that that's a poor movie it's just a style of comedy we feel isn't completely natural for us). Obviously Pineapple Express was really well received and in my opinion is one of the best movies I've ever had the pleasure of working on (those guys are a ton of fun on set!). We're really trying to go back to that early style and emulate it whole at the same time making something original (no Pineapple Express 2, sorry guys!). I'm really excited about the project personally, I haven't felt this kind of personal connection to a project in while. Im hopine it's going to be well received when the announcement trailer drops pretty soon, I feel like there's going to be a ton of excitement soon haha. But yeah stay tuned and keep supporting us and our projects in the mean time, we're really just a couple guys getting high and making movies without the fans. Thanks again for the question, I love interacting with my fans! Stay tuned!
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>>6913286

Better clothes in this pic or in those pics? I like this outfit, not the shades that much tho..\
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>>6924756
999/10 post there jaymez, you win
holy shit
just
kek
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>>6924756
I saw James Franco at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>6924480
>>6924528
>>6924756
>>6924968
heh kid, you're on fire
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>>6924997
Thanks, appreciate the love. Stay true
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>>6924997
Last one wasn't me though
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>>6921722
>happy for a while
Diff anon,
As much as I'd like to
I think transitioning would be a mistake
and it would end me

I basically do what anon said and imagine beautiful
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>>6926383
>and it would end me
you'd rather live a long and miserable life isntead?
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>>6926610
this is hongen
you think "transitioning" isn't going to be a miserable life?
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>>6926620
SHORT miserable life with no regrets is better than a long miserable life with regrets you are reminded of every day
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>>6926622
you can always cut out the "long" part of life
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>>6926626
So now we're back to

either
>transition and kill yourself before 30
or
>repress and kill yourself before 30

Transition is obviously the way to go if you've committed to suicide
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>>6926610
>>6926633
As a cis guy, I can have a career and date anyone I want and find love

As a tranny all of the above will severely reduced or eliminated
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feeling social?
come hang out on discord
https://discord.gg/8yMDtbv
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>>6932512
It's not about what you want/wish for in life

Dreams don't come true for everyone
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>>6896024
How much time on hrt do you need for boobs like theses.
They are positively perfect (sad part about the neck tho).
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>>6896024
oryx spotted
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>>6932782
what's wrong w neck? too long or too thick? i now cis fem have small necks
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>>6935902
Too long, really long
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lately ive been thinking its time to give up the hormones cause who am i kidding
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>>6873829
dermabrasion, acid treatments, and laser surgery can clear them up. they're essentially scars, so the same rules apply.
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>>6936306
Wut? Go on with taking your mones, you already look fine now. Your eyes are beautiful. How long are you on HRT? Just give it some more time and you'll be happier too imho.
I was pretty depressed for a long time, too, and it was hard for me to grow out of it even after starting HRT and doing it for some time. It's tough to be trans.
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>>6937776
>hugboxing in my hongen
god i hate this planet
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>>6936306
not that bad at all.. yes from this angle you look like a super feminine guy or andro. not hugboxing, maybe brows and then jaw job . Think you would pass easily with make-up.
also anyone looks a lot worse from that angle, its like wanting to make your male traits greater

I started at 19 years old and that angle makes me look super fat and huge from face .
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honlyf
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>>6937779
>thinks I'm hugboxing
Should I tell her that she's a ugly hon despite the fact she's obviously not?!
If you want to complain why don't you adress the people who posts their non-honny selfies here? Most of 'em are from passgen anyways.
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>>6937384
>>6937776
>>6937793
oh wow. thanks friends. i was honestly expecting to be told im ugly (strong chin, nose, browbone etc) so this is a nice surprise. maybe i just have a warped view.

i guess i'll stay the course as i've been doing. i used to feel more motivated toward trying to pass, but lately i've been feeling a strong depressed 'why bother, this is hopeless' feeling. thinking about going back to therapy.

to answer the question, Im 25 and been on hormones 6 months.
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>>6869297
I can relate and I'm not even getting hormones yet - need to wait a fucking year. Seeing girls in my age every day is frustrating...
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>>6907914
Already almost there anon, you're a qt.
Give hrt a try if you can, you seem to have the genetics for it.
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>>6937798
chill out with the eyeliner hon
>>
all yall ugly asf get out of lgbt
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>>6919243
I used to roleplay during my first year of hrt, then I chilled out and became authentic person-not running away from my male past and personality and interests, but merging them with everything else and becoming a person and not a meme
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>>6942284
my outer shell might be ugly but i am betiful on the inside :)
>>
fucking learn to do make-up and dress yourselves properly, hons.
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>>6942291
did you transition?
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>>6942435
noononoonno I stayed boymode after I stopped pretending to be a cute animu grrrrrrl but

I might transition in some far away future

of course, I take hrt and shit
Basically, once you come to peace with yourself, transitioning is no longer so important, since you will remain the same person regardless-it's only about what clothes you want to wear and what appearance you want to have
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>>6942443
so how did you deal with the desire to be a fem?
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>>6907914
A bit of make-up, girly clothes and nobody will question your gender (unless you have very masculine voice or very wide arms).
Black mtfs are lucky to have full lips.
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>>6907914
hahhahah a nigger wants to pass

you'd have more chance passing as Harambe
>>
has a "king hong" joke been made yet? i'd like to be the one to make it, if not
it needs to be known
>>
>>6938474
If you give up the hormones, you will always regret it, you will never, never forgive yourself. Keep going, you are close to achieve your goal.

Pro tip: do something with your hair, a lot of cis guys (usually metalheads) wear long, straight hair. Dye them, get a haircut. Regulate your eyebrows. Maybe you should consider getting lip injection, it would help a lot.
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>>6896024

What version of football requires armour? Must be camp as fuck, or do the players ride motorbikes as well? Shit makes no sense.
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>>6907659

Do you have cancer? Or are you just bad at makeup?
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Fucked. For. Life.

How to survive :l?
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>>6885562
just do your eyebrows better, after that you're fine as heck
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Do I pass as a femboi cause I don't wannabe be a failed trans.
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>>6936306
i'd let you kid me into a date baby, your face is fucking fantastic
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>>6944850
Its the makeup I look like shit with out it lol probably the angle too.
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>>6944889
all girls use makeup to look good tho, if you look good in make up you look good in real life. and the angle is horrible.

the only things shit in your photo is the lightning and the band shirt, get it together
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>>6944850
Id be down for that x3
given you've seen me without makeup and can deal with my deep voice and stuff.
>>6944933
Lighting was garbage lol my grandparents bathroom is super bright. Hey I love suicide silence tho but it's probs not super fem lol.
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>>6944658

Shave or wax your face

hide forehead, wig if you have too

then you'll be fine.
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>>6944933
Real women don't need makeup.
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>>6944658
hey i look about as ugly as you
cheers
>>
>>6944889
>>6944962
...are you pretending to be me? k

>>6942543
thanks, i appreciate the advice. youre probably right.
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>>6944825
How long have you been on HRT for (if at all)? You actually look cute and androgynous/passable in that picture despite having a somewhat masculine face shape.
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>>6907659
Damn you used to be cute af with a beard
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>>6946541
What your not me imposter do I have to throw my trip on. Tho I hate doing that.

>>6946854
I'm at about 9 months I still definitely need ffs. Which I've worked out a budget and I'm saving for.
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>>6947188
its fine you can pretend to be me. i just dont know why you would want to
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>21 years old
>more masculine face than the majority of 24+ year old guys

Yeah, fuck off with the 24+ rule. Just look at me ffs
>full facial hair shadow
>receding hairline
>shit-tier curly hair
>huge jaw
>small mouth

I am fucked. Even FFS wouldn't help me, because my head is actually too big for my frame. It looks stupid on a 5'6" guy and would look even worse on a 5'6 girl. The funny part is I've looked this bad since I was about 16. I realised relatively early (compared to most transitioners) that I wanted to transition, but was thwarted by my fast maturation. I'm going to give HRT a go, just because it seems like the biggest step forward I can make, but I don't see myself socially transitioning ever.
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>>6948606
I forgot to add
>bulbous nose
>long, protruding philtrum
>large forehead with noticeable brow bossing
>small eyes
>long, thick chin
>>
Finally, a thread for me :)
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>>6948606
meh

Just do it, you're not that bad

Laser will be a bitch though
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>>6948470
are you fucking retarded?
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>>6948683

ok you can understand my confusion when you respond to this person
>>6944850
as if they were talking to you

i guess all the shitty /lgbt/ trolls have tainted me into assuming you were pulling some weird shit. i never thought your pictures were me.
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>>6944825
>That hair part
Gross
>>
>tfw ugly and gave up and nothing to do except play xiv
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>>6948606
You look fine. Location?
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>>6949075
Okay den. Also hi moap.

>>6948750
There was confusion on both ends I evidently quoted the wrong person.

Then so did you when someone was giving makeup advice we both kinda fucked up but I apologize I really thought you we're missing with me.
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>>6949386
Hi <3
You should try parting your hair closer to the center and find where it works and looks good, also your hair looks kinda greasy, it might be the climate you're in if its really humid, but Id try using either less conditioner and/or more shampoo.
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>>6868702
OP, where did you get this picture? He looks like a friend of mine, no kidding
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>>6948606
you're fucking fine tard
>complaining about being 5'6 too
fuck off
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>>6949447
I'm fine with my hair if I shampoo it too much it gets greasy I have oliy hair it sucks however I washed my hair this day so my hair i tjoughy my hair doesn't look oily not sure what your seeing. Also not many hair styles work with my facial features I've tried to get a fem hair cut but most stylists are round here are dumb as fuck and basically give me a guy hair cut with long hair.

I've been battling the grease my whole life nothing works shampoos I've used aveda for oily thin hair, coconut oil, canola oil treatments, redkin products more aveda products wen etc I was hoping hrt would possibly help same way it does with acne. Not sure why to bother until I get ffs imma be a shut in.
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>>6950052
Stupid phone lol I.thought it didn't look greasy.
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>>6950052
reddit.com/r/nopoo
shampoo is a jewish scam
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>>6945023
Very few of us can get by without it.
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