/bi-gen/ - Bisexual General Discussion

>>6824174
Hey, nice threat faggot.

>>6824299

finest kankerzaad

How do I find a gf/bf?

I have attracted the attention of both sexes several times in the past, and I'm not some hopless /r9k/ shut-in, but I seriously don't even know where to begin in actually seeking out people to date.

I kinda want to lose my virginity before I turn 20 to keep my sanity.

>>6824568
What have you done to attract both genders in the past? Also do you want to lose your virginity more than you want a relationship?

My bi-cycle is turning to the hella extreme of MegaGay this week. Never been gayer. What the hell.

Anyone else's bi-cycle out of whack?

>>6824583
I have honestly no idea. I've had girls come up and ask me out for reasons beyond my comprehension. But I've either turned them all down (usually because they had issues) or there was one instance in which I dated a girl for a week and we mutually split up because we saw it going nowhere.

As for guys, it seems like those on the interwebs seem to think I'm attractive or something (never been approached irl).

And I want a relationship more than mindless sex. (Not even sure why I typed that part up.)

>>6824703
me, I've had this intense cocklust for at least a month now.

Maybe the memes are right

Maybe I am scum

>>6824821
Since when have memes ever been right?

Be proud of who you are. (Don't be a cunt about it though.)

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>>6824826
BI PRIDE WORLD WIDE GAS THE DYKES

>>6824826
The memes are always right

When I was around 10 or so (I don't remember) I was sexually abused by an older kid
Ever since sometimes I fantasize about dick and like traps
I'm not so sure what I am asking, but what are your thoughts on my sexuality?

>>6824898
Don't ask us, ask yourself.

Only you know you, so don't ask us to put labels on you and fuck with your head.

>>6824906
I don't know though, I'm just very confused
I think I like dick but I don't know if it's just a result from what happened or if it is genuine

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>>6824703
Aye. I will still fap to material with the ladies in it, but damn it all if I don't want to settle down with a lovely man and have a good, wholesome gay life.

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>>6824935

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Thoughts on the bi flag? I personally think it's the prettiest of the flags but I can't find merch of it in any stores near me (Canada). The gay/lgbt rainbow flag is all over different products in stores.
What are your thoughts on using the rainbow lgbt flag as opposed to the bi specific flag? I'm in college and want something to say that I like dudes as well as girls, but not confuse people.

Eerrmm... Sup guys, here's my story, though it could be quite a usual one... Fell in love with a guy, met him on russian imageboard recently. It was all so good, we exchanged photos, both of us liked each other, we had a lot of talk and revealed a truckful of compatibilities in our characters. It was actually him who offered a date asap and I agreed. We met the next day, bought some booze (wine, if it matters) and went for a walk on a holt over our city. There we sat, drank and discussed our lives and our problems (he just fled his home leaving a bunch of them there - family problems mainly). It was rather a natural thing to hug and comfort him and he hugged me back. Then, mmm, as I didn't intend to turn this post into a porn-story I'll just say that we had a great time.
We walked a bit more, I saw him to a bus and went home.
So, now it's the point of my story. As he got home he typem me some shit like "Sorry boy, I don't want to offend you but you're not ideally my type. It doesn't mean that we should not associate with each other".

Seriously? What was all that shiiit about? I just went crazy (though I didn't write him anything nasty back, thanks our gay god). Since that time it's become like hell for me. I can't properly eat, wake up at ass o'clock and just can't help stopping thinking.

We still speak as we did before the date and I want to believe that there's not all hope lost.

And, finally, why do I write it all here in bi-thread? Because I have a gf, ha-ha, what a moron I am. I guess she will be greatly impressed if it all turns out. It's like being between the devil and the deep blue sea right now and I don't feel like I possess enough strength to stand like that for a long time.

>>6825336
And now he has sent me a photo of him having breakfast. Oh my gosh, why the heck are you screwing me like this...

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>>6825256
same, a problem pf the bi flag is depending of the tonality the flag can be very ugly (if the colors are darker) or beautiful. but IRL the flag always look good.

the rainbow flag is ugly and a chromatic aberration, in internet and IRL, the flag is just ugly.

about using the flag foy you i don't recommended it, the flag right now is pretty much "the gay flag" bc transgenders, bisexuals, etc. all have their own flag.

>>6825336
idk dude, i guess just stop responding to him full stop for a bit

maybe try to distance yourself and then you might get over it?

>>6824841
FAG WAR NOW

>>6825615
Yep, that could be the way, i was thinking of it... But it's easier to say than to do. My hands are itching to write him, but i'll try to keep them away from the keyboard.

And the last question for those who combine relationships with both bf and gf, have you ever tried to come out to her with your bisexuality?

And if so happened, what was the reaction?

Mine sympathizes with lgbt a lot, adores to read stories, watch movies on the subject etc (which I sometimes mocked her for, lol).

Wouldn't that be too much for her if I showed my cards to her? What may I count for?

Maybe if her reaction is bad i could draw back and present it as a silly joke, who knows.

>>6824935
are you me?!

>>6825719
Once.
I was questioning a bit and told the gf.
>oh god what if he's gonna leave me for a man
And that was the beginning of the end.

Real talk though: a romantic relationship should grow and be meaningful.
If she reacts well, that's great!
If she reacts badly, it's time to have a serious talk because she might not be worth it in the greater scheme of things.

You should be comfortable being you.

>>6825830
Thanks a lot dudebro.

>>6824703
oh god I'm at the point where i may just be gay
>mfw i'm just the stereotype now

>>6824921
could be both anon. As unfortunate as that is for you :(

>>6824703
Nah, it's pretty stable actually to be honest.

>>6825256
i'd just sew a patch onto your backpack on something.

>>6824703
I just do whatever feels natural at the time, I don't think about it. Sometimes I fap to gfur despite not being a furry, sometimes fucked up hentai, sometimes traps/futa, sometimes vanilla porn. I just go by the phrase "whatever lifts your luggage" and don't really focus on what the porn "means" for my sexuality.

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>have BF
>do lewd stuff that isn't even full-on sex with bf
>loose the last speck of interest I had in females

I had a girlfriend about four years ago, then my love and sex life was dead up to the start this month.
My fucking hands were tingling, I had never experienced something this erotic in my entire life.
Maybe my interest in women will come back should this relationship end sometime, but I somehow doubt it. Both 3D women and my personal collection of 2D women being erotic, neither of them are interesting to me anymore.

My taste in guys is far more specific than it has been with females, but I have a feeling like it's going to widen with time.

Something tells me that my interest in females isn't coming back. Not that I mind, but I also feel like it's a bit early to pass a proper judgement on that.

I'll find out with time, but given the choice between hetero- and homosexuality, I'd choose homosexuality any day.

...Anonymous
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>>6825869 → #
Thanks anon
I'm not sure how I feel about the male body however
Though sometimes I think a guy is good looking or could even be cute but I would not get with them unless it is a passable trap

>>6824722
>>6824722

How do you define issues? How do you feel about having a partner with them?

Also sex is rather pleasent, I hope you can try it soon. Inside or outside of a relationship, your preference.

Anyone willing to read about my situation and tell me their thoughts? I'm trying to figure out if I'm bi or just full gay.

I was born with vagine and tiddy. I find the male body aesthetically pleasing. I'm not repulsed by dicks, but interacting with them does nothing for me sexually. I can come from being fingered or fucked by men. The sexual pleasure is physical, not mental.

Meanwhile, fucking pussy turns me on all day long. It makes me wetter than the inside of a sewer during a rainstorm. The female body is alright, but sticking my proverbial dick in a girl and coming deep inside her is what really gets me going.

Please help.

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>>6826942
It sounds to me like you're bisexual with a strong preference for the same sex. Or in other words, slightly straight but mostly gay.

Here's mine: I've always been in heterosexual relationships, but have been asked if I'm gay my whole life basically. 23, in a new city, and thinking about possibilities. I've never been in a relationship/had sexual contact with a man before, but I'd like to. Just not sure how to progress. Still unsure about the whole thing.

>>6827161
You could try hitting up a few bars, having a couple of drinks and just talking to people. Maybe you could try making out with someone, or get a little bit touchy feely. It's less of a commitment than actually meeting up with someone from say Grindr, even though that's a decent option as well. If you do go the app way though make sure they're someone who respects your limit. You don't want them becoming belligerent if you're not into it.

>>6827172
Thanks a ton for the reply. I appreciate the insight. Are you suggesting a gay bar in particular, or just any old run of the mill bar? Yeah that is my issue with the app. That, and the thought of STDs really worries me; I avoid tinder like the plague.

>>6827181
You should google far bars in your area and try to read up a little bit before you go out. If you're lucky there's "mingle" pictures available from different events and you can get a feel for how the bar is before going there. Also keep in mind that when you do go out don't do something that doesn't feel ok just because you feel like you have to commit. Take it slow and do it right.

You should always wear protection no matter what. As long as you've got a condom on you should be fine.

>>6825256
order it online

personally i like it a lot, good colors and shit

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am I too picky?

22, cisssss male, bisexual, male pref
i cant see myself dating anyone who isnt bigger (taller,heavier) than me, enjoys games, work out (to help me work out), and hairy. im not attracted to twinky, effeminate bois

i just want a qt bear to spoon against

>>6826942
you're gay

homosexuality is defined by sexual arousal to a sex, not by whether you can get physically stimulated to orgasm by someone

>>6827200
Too picky? You haven't had any luck finding a boyfriend? It feels like the type of guy that you're looking for is kind of common. Maybe you're already lager than average?

>>6827188
You're a life saver. I think that's basically what I need, some kind of time to just mingle and get a feel for it. I still feel a tad bit uncertain about the whole thing, but the thought of going to an event is certainly exciting. It's rough too because I've been out of the dating scene for a while, so jumping right in at the other end is terrifying.

I really appreciate the tips, btw!

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>>6827214
Sure thing buddy. I'm dealing with similar problems as I didn't admit to myself that I was bisexual before my world fell apart. Luckily I've gotten through that, even though it was intimidating at first. And hey, maybe this time next year you'll have a boyfriend and a bunch of queer friends to hang out with. Best of luck.

>>6825864
I feel you man, I don't want to be part of the stereotype, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look like that's where it's headed.

>>6827241
I thought the stereotype was that all bisexuals were really straight. I guess we encompass two different stereotypes at once, depending on who you ask.

>>6827210
ive dated around but im not sure if im the problem, or the other

my last two relationships have each had one aspect that THEY love, and I hate. one was a huge sjw/theatre geek/social media addict, and the other was obsessed with celebrity gossip and "FIERCE" celebrities. those were huge turn offs for me

>>6827239
I guess as with all things it just comes down to actually taking the plunge. Maybe over this weekend (I actually get 2 full days off) I'll get the chance to check a bar out and mingle.

Thanks again, I certainly hope that ends up being the case!

>>6827252
Oh God I recognize the first one. I don't know many gay/bisexual people, and the ones that I do know of are exclusively involved with the theater. My best friend directs his own plays so I go to related parties sometimes, and the way they insert politics into everything is really disheartening.

>>6827267
i dont get why politics needs to be involved in theatre. every single movie/play/video had SOME oppressive undertone to it apparently

then theres me just wanting to bone and play vidya after

>>6827298
I mean I get that people want to express things that are relevant to them. But a lot of the time I feel like they're trying to "kick in open doors" by parading things around that really aren't that controversial anymore. But to each their own.

>>6827314
fair nuff

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>>6827123
>>6827207
B-but, I enjoy the sounds men make... well, when they make feminine noises. And I like dominating them physically, especially dressing them up in girl panties, and...

... I'm fucking flaming, aren't I?

>>6828137
shhh is k bb

Does the way in which you like women differ from the way you like men?

I don't know if it's just me but they just seem so different. Probably the reason why I can't identify if i have a preference towards either gender. I'm definitely attracted to both genders, but in unique ways. What I find attractive in women is different to what I find attractive in men.

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>>6825814
I don't know... do you like your men feminine and white with a dash of very awkward nerd?

>>6825256
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the colors. But seeing as it's "my" flag, I proudly salute it.

>>6828626
I find myself wanting to ravage a man sexually, but hold them close, love them and keep them in my life.

Women, I'd like to be physical and that's it. The romantic aspect has not come up in ages. So long now in fact that I'd love to just be fully gay. But this the hand I was dealt, I'll love men and love fucking them, but only love fucking women.

>>6828684
>men feminine and white with a dash of very awkward nerd
ahah yeah
bonus point if they wear glasses

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>>6828710
>bonus if they wear glasses

HOLY SHIT, you ARE me. Nice to meet me, how am I?

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I'm in a long distance relationship with a girl. I'm a guy. I don't know if I can take this relationship anymore. I've slept with a few guys without her knowing. I don't know what to do.

>>6829531
you shouldn't waste more time on this "relationship" , for both of you
imo

>>6824174
Is it actually possible to be a momogamous bi?

>>6831891
yes
next

>>6832169
Any positive examples, experience?

>>6832247
2 years ago. im 20 boyfriend 22. relationship lasted roughly 7 months, discussed preferences early, later talked about inviting third, both agreed probably wasnt the best for new relationship, excessive boning.

im 19, gf 18. establish sexuality early, she thinks its cute, we talk about bois and grills together, love watching porn during sex, we never brought up inviting a third, she had sharp nails

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-06-bisexual-men-women-poorer-health.html
just reminding

>>6832376
nice meme dude

>>6824921
Doesn't really matter I suppose. If dicks turn you on, go for some dicks.

>>6829531
Don't be an asshole. Break up before you fuck around.

>watch straight porn
>self insert as woman
>watch gay porn
>self insert as top
any explanation for this
>>6828626
>Does the way in which you like women differ from the way you like men?
i only see women as fuck holes with no real personality whatsoever but that's just me

>>6829531
stop cheating now and decide if she's worth it. break it off if you're going to fuck anyone else. either that or tell her you cheated on her, see if she's up for an open relationship.

>>6825830
and what if you already married her?

>>6824174
how do I meet gay men/bisexual open women/other bisexual people just to have fun at a new university, as a 26 yo grad student with average looks and average cismale presentation?
worse yet I went from the US to a euro school, so clubs don't work the same here and my strength in the native language here isn't great.
I'm trying to get fit right now, but losing my skinnyfat is a struggle.

>willing to date people regardless of gender
>alone for life
What the fuck, can I restart? I think something's broken.

I live in a small town, and a gay bar just opened up. I don't wanna be known as the local fag, but I'd love to take a crack at guys. What do?

>>6838350
Don't go to the gay bar.

>>6838350
Go to the gay bar.

>>6838350
No gay bars suck.

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>>6837232
With a bigger pool, you're more likely to be rejected. ENJOY!

>>6837147
A long distance open relationship, to me that sounds literally like torture hell.

I guess I'm bi but its purely sexual. like I cannot date a woman I have tried for 5 seconds and I know it's not something I can do. I love men. But women are so fucking hot I just want to fuck them. Like if I'm watching lesbian porn or I'm thinking about pussy I feel like a dude..... Like I feel like I want to fuck them with my dick, but I don't have one...... WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN. I WANT TO FUCK A WOMAN WITH MY NON-EXISTING PENIS. But if I was fuck buddies with a girl or whatever I'm more interested in making her cum more than anything. Like I would just eat her out forever and she wouldn't even have to do anything for me. idk what im trying to get at here but yep

Never had gay sex, how do I go about getting some cock in a discrete manner

>>6841573
Go for a nice party outfit, paint your face, nobody will notice you taking dicks.

>>6824703

I feel you, this week all I've been dreaming of is cuddling with a guy and do cute retarded shit with him. Otherwise it's a nonstop flip switch every time I see an attractive girl. Tbh I'm just so lost and don't know what to do, will probably talk to a counselor sometime soon.

>>6842700
You're bi. Just accept it.

>19
>really into cute traps
I doubt i will ever met a trap cause im from a small town in spain
Now my brain is fucked, im not getting attracted to grills and guys arent my thing

I'm straight and it's fucked up I know but I have a weird fantasy of licking a guy's feet while there's a girl watching me do it or I'm licking her feet as well as his.. I have a major foot fetish and I always have, I'm 19 and loved girls' feet since I was a kid, but only in the past few months I've fantasised about licking a guy's feet too (with a girl watching), I'm probably just watching too much porn and it's influencing me. Does this make me bisexual? I have no attraction to the male form, penis or anything to do with guys, just some guys' feet and for some reason whenever I wank to a guy's feet, I keep imagining there's a girl watching me do it, it turns me on, I don't know if it's cuckoldry I'm into or what. It's hard to explain.

>>6824174
Hey all, so I've got a little issue and I'm hoping someone can give me advice.

I'm male and he's male.
Last week I hooked up with someone for the first time. I've never dated anyone, or had any sort of relationship experience whatsoever.
He's a great person. I've never felt so comfortable being myself and talking than I have with this man. He's completely understanding and compassionate, and I really don't want to hurt him.

My main interest here was to enter the dating game, find out my sexual orientation, and ultimately lose my v-card. By no means am I looking for any serious commitment at this time. I just want to explore.

What is bothering me is that in the two times I've met this man, he's introduced me to his family, bought me coffee and ice cream against my wishes, and is showing signs of wanting to bf me. I don't want to lead him on or anything, and I'm scared that's exactly what I'm doing without realizing it.
How do I tell him that I'm not looking for any commitments? All I want is cuddles and sex ;_;

>>6841087
This x1000
I figure I'm technically bisexual but not biromantic?

>>6843264
Tell him that you feel like he wants to commit, but you're just not ready for that sort of thing.

>>6825336
He just used you for sex.

>>6843264
I feel for your anon. What you need to keep in mind is that the longer you wait the worse it will be. You need to communicate this to him asap.

Is fetishising shemales/traps truly a separate thing?
Or is it just part of being into cocks or feminine guys and being in denial?

All these fucking celebrity members of the Discord chat think they are way too cool, fuck these ass hats. They only talk about inane subjects and ignore everyone who just comes in besides the fucking degenerate 'dickbot' that tells every normie to fuck off.

>>6848200
>caring about a dischord
>on an anonymous imageboard

Literally everyone on dischord is no better than a tripfag and they don't matter

>>6848200

hey bitch just because I'm a celebrity member and soon gonna be all celebretied up in a 5* hotel in munich you don't have to get all pissed about it.
fuckface.

>>6847584
they're both on the bisexuality scale

>>6848308
This shit is way more dead tho.

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>>6848200
>ywn be a celebrity member

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>>6824174
I really like this guy, but im afraid that he will make fun of me for saying that I like him. His friends all seem like putrid normalfags, and that just scares me even more.

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So I've been reading Passing by Nella Larsen recently and it's set me on a train of thought that might be interesting to talk about with other biscum. In the book, one of the characters is a mixed race woman who regularly travels between the white world and the black world, "passing" as one or the other.

As bisexuals, do you regularly "pass" as straight or gay in certain situations? Is your bisexuality implicitly essential to your identity, especially in relation to committed relationships?

To me, it certainly seems advantageous at times to label myself as straight or gay for the benefit of not having to explain the ambiguity.

>>6849472
For sure, I don't tell people I'm bi, I let people think what they want to think.

>>6849483
that's very interesting. if someone asks you for your sexuality do you say bisexual?

>>6849542
sometimes, but generally the question is phrased "are you straight" or "are you gay" and my response is usually "I like girls" or "I like guys".

>>6849472
if someone asks "gay or straight" I just reply with "somewhere in between."

>>6849472
I generally just say I'm neither or half and half, really. I like to stick my dick in women, I like to stick my dick in girly guys. Doesn't need to be much more complicated than that.

>>6849472

I pass as celebrity member 100% of times.
feels good man.

>>6844217
YES EXACTLY!!! no romance. strictly puss.

>never experimented
>zero legbutt friends
>the idea of randoms on tinder scares me
>too much of a coward to go to a gay bar/club alone
what do?

>>6851773
Do what I did. Start talking to some random dude online, flirt for six months and post sad shit on this board when he's gets a boyfriend.

>>6851933
sounds like terrible advice tbqhfamalam

>>6851957
I think he was ironic but the part "Start talking to some random dude online, flirt for six months" is a legit advice: there are LOT of guys who are willing to experiment online (lewd chat/cam, or something more serious). The main problem imho is that you rarely meet people from the same geographical area, so if you want to do meetups/hookups, you will have to travel.

>>6851773

where are you from?
you could always try out community chats, where you get to know people like on a complete other basis, and maybe start show liking in someone.

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>mfw a gay fuckbuddy says "I love you"

Does anyone have any positive stories about bimales coming out to the wife? I'm still young and I don't want to hit just this one pussy anymore, but I don't really want a divorce either. I know the whole open marriage meme is cringey at best but honestly, I don't know how to move forward. Should I just resign to the closeted bi married man meme who cheats on his wife on Craigslist or opt for the divorced young couple cliché? I mean, we lasted 6 years already.

>>6849472
I pass as straight to most people I think, and even those who suspect must have their doubts. I came out to some coworkers while hammered a while back, and while some were surprised, others didn't react at all. I thought they didn't believe me at first, that I was just seeking attention, but I later realized that they already knew that lots of not-so-queer people are bi and generally just end up wih straight people because they're easier to meet and date.

>>6858667
>the closeted bi married man meme who cheats on his wife on Craigslist meme
this one is rrrreally cringey, only old loosers go for that

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>>6848200
When did "celebrity member" become a meme? I sort-of jokingly used it in the last bi-gen thread to describe a particular tranny in the cour des miracles discord who made me bootybothered and decided to shift what I did with my days to something more productive, (a.k.a. improving my real life because I'm normally a lazy POS).
Now I come back to look at the new bi-gen thread and either a) I'm not the only person who was assblasted by certain users of the discord or b)people have turned it into a meme to continue mocking/trolling me.
I'd like to come back to the discord eventually, but with this shit still flying I don't think I can do it.
Oh well. With classes starting back up soon I guess I have another shot at real friends again.

>>6858683
Yeah well I was the 25yo married loser who was taking BJs from black dudes on the dl. I hate myself. I stopped doing it after 4 times or so. The shame was real.

>>6849378
You risk nothing, you win nothing, and you lose nothing. Tough decision. Which would be harder to live with? Losing him as a friend and being embarrassed/humiliated (worst case), or hating yourself for never finding out how he felt?

>>6824841
>>6825624
That was hillarious, thanks.

>>6858667
whyd you get married and agree to a closed, monogamous relationship if you wanted to fuck other people? why wouldn't you just not get married?

>>6852014
Yeah that sounds sensible.

>>6854824
Dutchie.
What kind of community chats?
The only kind of stuff I can think of is either fetlife related or basically imageboard shitposting.

>>6827241
>I'll be damned

You will be, for eternity if you choose to live such a lifestyle.

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>>6828137
>And I like dominating them physically, especially dressing them up in girl panties

>tfw you will never be a girl's feminine little girlish boy as she gently dominates you

Ah well

>>6859584

try the discord?
we have dutchies!

>>6860061
Yeah get in, it's not like almost all European people in here are Dutch.

I want to kill myself. Im biscum but im a loser that doesnt even have friends. I can't handle being single anymore.

>>6860325

where are you from? how old are you?
atleast you're not a bi tranny (I guess)

just keep going, the good thing is it can only get better now.

>>6860336
Canada. 19. Im ugly and fat as fuck and considering if im a cuntboy or not. I've never had it worse then now, but I feel like life is just going to throw me a shovel and tell me to start digging.

>>6860369

might join discord aswell and talk about it, we won't just let you die.

This is going to sound odd but lately I've found that I am sexually/physically attracted to men but romantically repulsed by them.
The only way I would ever have a sexual encounter with somebody is if I were in a romantic relationship with them.
Am I still Bi even though the chances of me being with a male are slim to none? Am I just a dyke in denial?

>>6860682
>Am I still bi?

Jesus fucking christ people, stop asking anonymous people on a mongolian pottery imageboard to label your sexuality.

Do you think you're bi? If yes, then congratulations, you're bi. If not, you're not. End of discussion.

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>>6858700
>getting buttblasted by celebrity shitposters

>>6860682
if you are sexually and/or romantically attracted to members of your opposite sex (on top of being hetero), yes you're Bi.
>>6861084
no need to be rude, it's normal to have doubts; bisexuality is more confusing than being gay or straight.

>>6859062
At the time I got married, I wanted to fuck her a lot more than other people. We were still fucking a lot back then, I was in denial about being bi, and marriage was one of the few ways we could live together on the same fucking continent. Before that we had 6 months together (she was an exchange student) and then we saw each other 3 times in 2 years.
We were in love. It was only over time that I would figure out her libido would dive bomb and our fantasies/fetishes/general sexual tendencies don't have a great deal of overlap.

>>6860029
>sigh heavily
Are you me?

>>6860194
There's that loud annoying Swiss tranny who posts more than anyone.

>>6861084
Yes, insecurity about the legitimacy of a fluctuating sexual preference in the absence of actual sexual interaction with members of more than one gender presentation is ridiculous. Why can't people just be more sure of themselves?
Fuck off.

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>>6861190

>>6860194
Way ahead of you on that one I guess.

>>6860194
Always happy to contribute to the problem.

>>6864725
wat

>>6863115

sorry for being a good person <3

tomorrow will most likely be taking my first dick into my ass, he's 6 years older than me

Probably a daily thing here.

18 y/o high schooler here, and I think I have a thing for my trans guy friend. He's ULTRA cute, isn't thinking about transitioning, and is overall a great guy.

Thing is, I always thought I was straight, maybe a few doubts, but Jesus Christ if I had a fuckin chance I'd pound his boypussy senseless, but also cuddle him as tenderly as I could.

My question is, if he doesn't transition, am I still bi?

And also, does anybody really give a shit about your sexuality? (I go to one of the higher end high schools in my area, mostly centrist and liberal, with a few chill conservatives)

>>6864725
Could you please go away, I mean we like to be a rare species here.

I'm a questioning guy!

Got done in by anal last week, whole time it felt like I was taking a shit. So distracting that I didn't even realise that I had cummed. Ruined the whole experience.

Is it normal? Am i just not gay?

>>6866229
>And also, does anybody really give a shit about your sexuality? (I go to one of the higher end high schools in my area, mostly centrist and liberal, with a few chill conservatives)

Here's the thing about it, its how YOU identify. If you love him,don't force a label onto yourself.

Also this is a bit confusing because if it's a trans guy its a girl transitioning to a boy, but it dont think thats what you meant.

>>6866251
you'll get used to it, if you came you're already farther than most.

>>6866256
(assuming this is normal then?) how do others find out theyre bi/gay? If not for outside information I would have turned away already

>>6866256
Yeah, I meant it as a girl transitioning to a boy. So if we go biologically I'm still straight? But hes incredibly masculine and even gets called 'sir' in public.

Kinda a reverse trap, if there's a word for that.

>>6866266
If you're transphobic then yes you're still straight however if you aren't then no you're bi as you're attracted to a guy. You're even using the right pronouns and saying you want to pound his boypussy, how can there be any doubt?

>>6866266
yeah, you'd be gay/bi if you feel you could be attracted to other men, but you could say your straight, but flexible. Most straights/gays have people they'd say "yeah i'd fuck ryan gosling/Portia De Rossi" even if it goes against their sexulity.

>>6866276
this is a very literal use of boypussy

>>6866266
The word is 'reverse trap'
And nah you're bi

>>6866229
>does anybody really give a shit about your sexuality?
if you're still asking that at 18yo, you're lucky AF... good for you OTOH

>>6866264
>how do others find out theyre bi/gay?
Being turned on by male attributes (dicks usually, or men butts) [spoiler]and want to cuddle with sexy guys[/spoiler]

>>6866229
technically, you're pansexual (hence bi)

>>6866347
How so, my guy?

I guess this is where I should post this, and I'm only posting because I'm drunk as fuck
>molested as a kid by an older boy
>always curious about same sex growing up
>a few months aho have a threesome which ends up mostly as me sucking off my gf's mtf friend
>now constantly owrried that I'm I'm going to turn into a faggot because I enjoyed it
I really shouldn't be this fucked up because my gf is bi and loves the idea of me with a guy but I'm just afraid I'll stop being attracted to her and turn into a total fruitcake

>>6866404
Usually, people (family, coworkers, friends, etc everyone) give a shit if you're not straight :/
It seems you have a very tolerant/liberal environment, that's why I thought you were lucky to not have been confronted to lbgt-phobia.

>mum "i prefer to kill myself to have a gay son"
>dad "fags are pedophiles"
>sister "gays are mentally ill"
this kind of shit lol

>>6866433
Only people like that in my area are the douchebag wiggers from the south side. My city is kinda okay. Liberals aren't too bitchy, conservatives aren't too homophobic.

Even so, I'm only so protected of my bisexual feelings because I went to a wigger infested middle school where gay and faggot were used gratuitously, and flung as insults.

Also anon, I'm sorry to hear that man. People out there will love you for just being lgbt, you just gotta hold that head high.

>>6826877
Are you me? kek

I'm literally the same right down to the childhood experience.

I wonder how many guys have been turned "bi" that way?

>>6838610
>>6838625
>>6838659

This.

>>6861084
if believing you were bi made you bi, then believing you were straight could make you straight

>>6866402
I like dicks, but I want to cuddle with sexy girls

send help

>>6866123
You seem like a trashy person with an inflated sense of worth about both yourself and your home country. Your deep-seated insecurity, narcissism, and overall mental illness make you generally difficult to bear, and then you flame and shitpost anyone who bothers you in the same way.

>>6866264
For me, it was the 4chan fap slope, years of dismissing it as mere fetish, and then believing I had to sleep with men and like it to be truly bi (I'm like a 2.5 on the Kinsey scale)
Don't make the mistake of thinking you have to fuck men and like it to officially be bi, because if you have a bad sex experience (which is likely) then you might decide you're not when that's not true. Also you might get herpes or worse.

>>6866426
>mental illness
Yep you're a faggot now

>>6866976
Get a real trap anon

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>>6824174
/bi-gen/ please help me
I think I'm in the middle of gay panic, I don't understand what is going on.
How do I know what I feel is real and not some fabrication ? Also how do I tell that I'm still not forcing myself to feel attraction to the same sex.

>>6868684
>Have a problem? Have a concern? Need advice? Need insight? Need another perspective? Post your questions!
Does that mean that you won't answer, that I can only post it and still live in terror ?

>>6868684
>>6868795
Don't panic. These threads are almost always deader than dead.

Just calm down and collect yourself. Think long and hard about it and don't be afraid of the conclusion you reach. No matter if you find that you're gay or bi or straight, everything will be alright in the end.

Just always remember, you're gonna make it.

>>6868684
I am still/was in the same boat as you so I'll give my shitty advice, which is to first off, calm yourself. And then, focus on what attracts you rather than what disgusts you - if you keep circling around the subject and obsessing over mundane and meaningless crap you'll lose focus and misinterpret, for example, the feeling of being unconfortable and the anxiety given by a certain thought with a form of arousal. I was told this and it helped me, so here ya go.

I'm still half in the closet myself I think - due to my childhood / negative self esteem and worth / my many issues or whatever you may call it, I end up sometimes feeling really attracted to guys in a pseudo romantic way the same way I have with women. The way they look, the way they talk and project themselves, anything I feel is better than me. But then sexually - nothing happens. Sex with a woman feels right and the only time I ever failed to have a natural boner or not perform was when I was thinking that "maybe I was gay all along and I was just repressing it" and that really fucked with my head, the 'gay panic' as you said. I still consider myself bi, hence me lurking here. Sexuality is weird

The best thing you can do is set your mind on auto-pilot and see where that leads you. Get wasted to a point where you're still sober enough to think but drunk enough to feel your "primal" urges rising up. And if you watch a lot of porn, quit it and you'll get natural sexual feelings back that should help clear things up. Most of all keep yourself occupied and productive. Live. Sexuality comes after you.

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>>6868859
>>6868885
I just want to know what do straight people feel ?
What do gay people feel ?
If I'm straight or bi I have a chance of easy life, but if I truly am gay my life is ruined. Then I'm at lost for what to do.
Keep in mind that I live in Latvia and as in pic you can see why I feel like this.

who /heteroromantic bisexual/ here? I thought it was all tumblr nonsense until I realized liking dicks, traps, twinks and women was a thing.

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>>6824174
So how I can understand, that I am bi?
And why there are so many bisexauals who became gay? :(

>>6868667
if this board is any indication, they're all "HURR YOU LIKE ME FOR THE PENIS" and label me a chaser

>>6869322
Lots of people call themselves "bi" when they first start coming out of the closet but then
A) realize that they're actually gay
B) admit that they were just gay after all
C) end up in a same-sex LTR and find it more convenient to call themselves gay than open the whole bi-you'regonnacheatonme can of worms

I've been guilty of that last one. LTR with woman? I'm straight! LTR with guy? I'm gay! Single? I'm bi!

>>6869322
There are no bisexuals because they settled down with their gender or opposite, they can't have both later in life.

>>6869416
I'm honest!

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>>6868938
Please help

>>6869439
Could you maybe instead explain what you feel?

>>6869432
Honesty is a waste of time. I tell men I'm gay, women I'm straight, and trannies that I'll top. All lies~

>>6869458
Why not being honest? Or are you one of the bisexuals that only just fucks and never gets into any romantic relationship?

>>6869450
I am cis female. I had unexplainable feeling for girls since I was 8. I said to my best friend that I was bi whwn I was about 9-11. She acted weird, we didn't talk since about it and I realized that there was wrong with me. Hence the closet.
I became depressed, didn't care about anything, had no sexual desires and had no wish for them.
Now I'm starting to heal, trying to make my life a better one and now I'm realizing the feeling that I buried long time ago.
Now I'm starting to notice that I don't really have romantic feelings for guys. Only sexual ones. When I have the chance to be alone with a guy I freak out and don't know what to do because I don't feel anything for him.
But for girls I have a sexual and romantic attraction, it's easy for me to have a crush for women, but when it involves men I'm fleeing away.
Do I really have a chance with guys ? Is this just some emotion problem or am I in denial about it and are a 100% lesbian ?
I really need to know this. If I can't have a normal heterosexual life then I would need to make big decisions and alter my life drastically.

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>>6869322
one day i feel straight (because it's more "normal" in some way, and i was attracted to women most of my life, and I liked it)
then the day after, I feel gay because I can't stop thinking about sucking the dick of my handsome LDR friend (and I think I really love him)
then, I come to the conclusion I'm bi... until I start doubting again: the cycle repeats itself endlessly lol

but at the end, I think I'll settle on one monosexuality only because it's not possible to satisfy all my needs (and since I don't want to have children, ideally I'ld spend my old life with a guy).

>>6869560
If you have sexual attraction to men, you are definitely not 100% lesbian.
It's quite normal to be on some sort of scale between hetero and homosexual in, perfect 50% is quite rare. It seems you are bisexual with a preference for women.

I don't really know the situation in Latvia, but aiming for a 'normal' heterosexual life while having feelings that do not match that life seems wasteful to me. I think you should go with what you feel, maybe try again with a guy you could also see as something like a friend + sexual interests? Again, I don't know the situation in Latvia, but people around you shouldn't dictate who you love and be with, you probably could get a heterosexual life but if you meet a girl you want to be with you should go for that.

I think the thing i want most in a partner (just sexualy) would be basically a girl except with a small dick.
Im really picky with traps faces though so i feel like i will never find exactly what i am looking for.

It's confusing

>>6869687
>something like a friend + sexual interests
But wouldn't be that a bad deal for the guy ?
If I really loved him like a friend I wouldn't want him to be with someone who couldn't love him and be devoted 100%.
Is it fair for me to try a relationship with a guy with a chance that I might fall in love with a woman, who could take all my heart ? Because I can feel that I have a strong craving for a relationship with a woman.
It just doesn't sound fair.

>>6869701
Then you should go for a relationship with a woman.

>>6869712
And get beaten by some retards.
I would probably need to live in another country to safely life this lifestyle.
Our country still has communistic views on matters of life. Homos are considered freaks and sick people.
As long as our old folks are in charge this won't change.

>>6869340
post op trannies are super gross tho. Like those are the weirdest looking vaginas.
>well, yeah I like ur dick, but I'm bi

>>6869701
>assuming every guy wants a 100% devoted partner, true love, etc.
I swear people on this board diss other /lgbt/ forums for being echo chambers and then literally everyone on this board assumes traditional life pairings are what everyone wants.
>>6869560
I don't know what straight guys are like in Latvia, but here there are plenty of chill dudes who are down to have sex, casually date/be friends and not develop emotionally exhausting and time consuming love affairs. Even with a bi chick. (They may even hang around hoping they get to watch you with another chick.)

Some of you need to get out into the light. Like literally outside not outside of the closet. Have some fresh air. Relax. Life isn't that bad. There's people for everyone.

>>6867641

Anyone who really knows me knows that this isn't true at all.
No need to be bitter anon.
Wanna talk face to face about it?

Someone else here never ever kissed anyone?

How is big different from gg

>>6874898
I have no idea what is written here.

I'm a 25 straight guy (at least I think I'm) and, sometimes, I feel atracted to trannies.

How do I start? Where do I find tgirls?

>>6875176
>tinder/grindr
>don't be a creep/asshole
>???
>profit

>>6875243
Thanks for the reply.

I don't use grindr as it's exclusive for gay guys. Am I wrong?

I've found some tgirls on Tinder, but most of them charge for sex. I've found a couple of nice girls, but they seem to lose interest really fast.

I'm not trying to marry them, but I'd like to be friends with benefits so I don't go straight to the point.

>>6875335
there are a bunch of femmes and mtfs on grindr.

you sound like, among other things, you might be giving off chaser vibes.

lrn2 casually date.
if the chill and casual sex sticks, voila.
seriously, this weird commitment-without-commitment attitude is not working in your favor.

>>6875345
Casual sex.

>>6875384
I see, you have a point.

Thanks!

Also, is it weird to be passive? It may sound like a stupid question, but i really don't know if all MtF want to fuck AND be fucked.
Any tips for an anal virgin? It turns me on to be fucked by a tgirl, but I'm scared it will hurt, not be pleasant and that the other part may find it not properly cleaned.

>>6875440
I think most would not like to fuck (top).

Get yourself started on buttplugs.
Begin small, and get something safe.
A silicone beginner set from a trusted company like Fun Factory would be ideal.

I don't like the meme where anal sex is a part of the default gay lovemaking.

>>6875556
I just don't like how much work and potentially unhealthy it is, giving and receiving alike. Maybe once in a blue moon it might be fine. I just wouldn't want to be responsible for my partner becoming incontinent because of choosing to abuse their body, that would be really awful.

>>6874155
I would love to. Bring the MDMA, then we can bond.

>>6875617
How likely is incontinence, really? I enjoy buttplay and while I haven't LOVED bottoming yet I admit coming with something up my butt feels great.
So how do I avoid the diaper?

>>6875556
>offbyone.jpg
>>6875848
I share this sentiment. I have a big oral fixation, so I would honestly be happy if sexy time ended in head/69ing 60-70% of the time. But some people think it doesn't count as fucking unless there's anal penetration.

>>6875873
Please define both "less often" and "stay active"

>>6875857
the incontinence is a meme; every time a proctologist is asked about this, they say it's a myth unless you're taking horse-dick size dildoes & getting fisted regularly.

this guy probably wants me to be his bf, but I feel nothing romantically because he's affectionate

I want this girl to be my gf because she's not affectionate and that's what drives me crazy

Why am I so fucked up?

>>6875908
Sort that out yourself, but at least be clear to the guy you are giving false hope.

>>6875831

No problemo

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I am suffering, bi-gen//
I am suffering from all these stories, when guys marry woman, they lived together and he just understood, that he just don't feel anything to her. That he just got understood that his love wasn't love and was just method to cover his real sexuality. That he always tried to get rid of these thoughts about his attraction to males, but absolutely unsuccessfully. That he didn't know what to do, because he had a child, wife, family...
And I can't just understand, what am I. I like suffering from uncertainty, what my feelings to woman and man means. In my childhood I engaged to feel to some man, that feeling, I don't suppose it was actually love, but just very-very strong thought "i want to be like you". I was always worrying about my masculinity. But I like felt something to girls. I have never felt the same feeling to boys. I watched straight porn, but sometimes i ve like felt something to male erotic pictures. And then gay porn. I was suffering from that. At the age of 16 I firstly felt something to boy in my new school, but then I understood that it wasn't actually love. And then I fall in love with girl from my group. But some homosexual things still took place with me. I ve started to think I am bi, and then athe age of 18 i have said "i am gay"
And then it was like 2 weeks, and then I just understood that I wasn't right.
And i just don't know what to do.
what should i do...

>>6881333
Address yourself how you feel most appropriate, if it be bi then be bi. If you find you no longer feel that way then change how you identify, continue to do so until you feel comfortable.

>>6824174
How do I know if I'm actually bisexual/bicurious, or if it's just a coping mechanism as I haven't been with a girl in so long?

>>6881333
I can see you're struggling with your identity.
Don't grasp for a label and hold on for dear life.
Be you, do you, learn your feelings and interests.
Don't define yourself by a box you put yourself in, but express yourself in your characteristics.

Since you seem to have had feelings on both sides of the fence that is "bi" yes.
But feelings aren't constant and predictable, and like many things in life this is more of a spectrum.
Don't worry about not fitting any textbook example of the "group".

Be yourself, find yourself, love yourself.

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>>6881333
you can change how you sexually identify later in life; nothing is written in stone.

>>6881422
>like many things in life this is more of a spectrum
bisexuality is the widest spectrum ever
inB4 pan

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>tfw just ended a het long term relationship and realise I'm craving pussy like mad
I've set up an okcupid account but still no luck, it's pretty dead and although I'd say I'm pretty cute, girls aren't very active I guess.
I'm gonna give a gay bar a go but I'm pretty autistic in person.
I just want a cute girlfriend.

>>6881934
you try tinder yet?
>pretty autistic in person
just do it.

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I am a 21 male questionning his sexuality. I have only been with women for now and never felt some kind of "romantic attraction" towards men but since I'm a kid I'm stuck with this idea of "what does it feel to be a woman". I crossdress in private since I'm 17 and while I first thought it was only sexual I started to wear women clothes casually. I also realized that while my romantic attraction to women is legit , my sexual attraction is driven by some kind of empathetic feeling towards them , I'm mostly attracted by the idea of being in her place , wearing what she wears , acting like she acts.

I always has been empathetic in my way of feeling things and I don't if this is a mix of frustration/fantasy/"porn brain wash" or if those are legit feelings.

I'm just really shy and ashamed about all this and I don't know if I should try it with a man knowing that you are the first people who I talk about this.

Sorry if that is not crystal clear , English is not my native language and I'll enlighten you if you have any questions.

>>6886089
If you feel it it's legit.
Sounds more than just kinky you might be trans, which is more a gender thatn a sexuality thing.
(right?)
I dunno man.

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>tfw my 3 year relationship with a girl ended
>Tfw considering hunting me some milfs through tinder, which should be ez, since I am in my early 20's
>Also kinda want to hook up with some qt boy but I am fucking paranoid about std's, but sucking/getting my cock sucked with condom seems pathetic and pointless

What do? Also, any advice how to score quickly with tinder or something without bullshitting that I want anything else but sex? I've never used online dating/dating apps.

>>6887909
>using a condom for oral
Use a flavored one I guess? I have no idea what you think could happen unless your partner has open sores in their mouth

>>6888063
I mean that I wouldn't want to use it, because it takes all the fun and pleasure away, but I'm paranoid as fuck.

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HOW do i get a cute bf

my crush hasn't spoken to me in a few days, I want to text her but I feel like it would be weird since she never replied to my last text.

Would it be in bad taste to text her or call her?

I will for sure see her Wednesday night but I wanted to hang out with her this weekend.

I told her that I like her after we hung out a week ago and I'm wondering if I made things weird by doing that.
We'd already kissed twice at that point, and I was pretty sure she was interested in me; so I thought telling her that would have made her want to talk to me more, but that wasn't the case at all

>>6888621
Text and make sure she's still alive. Nothing wrong with that.

>>6888626
Ok.
I've always felt weird about texting people who didn't reply, or people who stop replying in the middle of conversations; I don't want to seem needy or obsessive, you know?

How should I tell everybody that I'm not straight. Parents are hardcore Christians , and my friends would make fun of me and never let me live it down

>>6888971
If you don't have a bf, don't bother. They won't take it seriosuly.

>>6889005
>bf
gf if she's a girl.

>>6888971
>Parents are hardcore Christians
Why bother?
Unless you're in a same sex relationship it's entirely pointless. Comeout when you have a same sex lover and you're in a committed relationship, and you can come out by introducing your partner to people or just tell them your bisexual and have a bf/gf

>>6838350
What other options you got? go

>>6876803
Which country do you live in, just to be sure u r who I think u r

>>6881333
Nice trips.
The gender object of my attraction fluctuates too: it certainly sounds like you shift between being attracted to boys and girls. Not all bis are attracted to both genders all the time, or in equal amounts.
I am mostly attracted to women, but I go through periods where they don't excite me at all, and boys do instead.
Like a previous poster said, don't worry so much about the label and just follow your feelings.
If someone you're interested in is a dick because you're still unsure about your sexuality, then just let it go.

Bi tranny here. I was in relationships with boys and girls pre-transiton are the relationships with guys considered straight now and vice versa?

>>6890266
Girl and boy=straight
Girl and girl=gay
Boy and boy=Gay
Your question borders on pedantic desu

>>6881691
Bisexual/hetromantic master race reporting in (though I think we should just call them all bisexual and be done with unnecessary subgenres)

>>6890570
all the bisexuals *are* all called bisexuals, the "subgenres" are just communicating extra details

>>6881691
>Biromantic heterosexual
>androsexual
>gynosexual
>aromantic
>asexual
tumblr, please just go away

>>6890582
fair

>>6881691
i'm looking at that chart, and im wondering what is the difference between sexual attraction and romantic attraction?
i've always identified as bi, but as i've gotten older my preference has leaned more and more female to the point that i call myself a lesbian sometimes; i know i find men attractive, but have i just started leaning towards other women or is there more to it than that?

>>6890591
It's true that it might look ridiculous, but picking a precise label can help young people who discover their sexual orientation (ie. "well, I'm biromantic asexual, i can put a name on these weird feelings, I'm not alone, etc"). It's definitely more helpful than harmful imho.

>>6890622
sexual attraction = not interested by long term relationship
romantic attraction = platonic love and/or willing to have sex too
Sexual orientation tends to evolve the more you get older thanks to experiences and life in general. It's not common (I guess because people are afraid of changing their habits, and society frowns about it) but not rare at all.

>>6890709
>>6890709
>sexual attraction = not interested by long term relationship
>romantic attraction = platonic love and/or willing to have sex too
hmm
i'm open to either with anyone so i guess i'm just plain ole vanilla bisexual then.
or female leaning bisexual, but same difference.
I really fancy the idea of being straight, but women are better imo

>>6890709
I think it is not only absurd but quite harmful spiritually and young people especially shouldn't put themselves in a little box like that

>>6890765
putting yourself in box while young isn't ideal, no, but having words and terminology to describe yourself and how you feel IS a need.
i remember how confused i was as a kid/younger teen, and it was such a weight off my shoulders once i had language to describe my feelings and knew that other people felt how i felt

>>6874475
Had been kissed only one time in spin the bottle. It was with a guy, I just sat there and was feeling extremely uncomfortable.

Dating a transwoman for about two months now, I am falling emotionally for her hard. We just spent a weekend away together, and I think it is getting serious. My fear is that I don't think any of my family or friends would be supportive at all. I think it would be hard for people to immediately be like 'oh she's trans,' but I don't want to lie. I am so I dunno, conflicted. I could see this as a long term relationship too, as it is not just sex, we've become really close as friends and talk every single day.

>>6874475
i didnt kiss anyone until I was 24 and a half
you'll get there anon, just gotta put yourself out there

>>6895161
why do other people need to know she's trans?
its not even lying, its just not relevant generally.
and its not really your info to tell...think of it as a a chronic medical condition....say its clincal depression.
she goes to therapy and takes her anti-depressants, does anyone need to know that?
now, in your case, you'll probably just want to avoid bring it up and stray away from topics like that, but thats different than lying.
people are entitled to keep information private, especially medical info.

Are you male or female anon? i'm gonna assume you're a cis male.

>>6895248
She told me from the get go that while most people can't tell, she absolutely will not hide the fact she is trans.

>>6824703
Yup. It was swinging out to full on gay. Kinda went the opposite direction then. Somebody research this shit already. I wouldn't even mind if it changed by season or some shit but I want to expect it.

>>6838661
Oh hey look! Found a guy who doesn't understand percentage

>>6895283
oh.
well good for her then.
I'm stealth. so i lie if i have to.
just dont frequent family then, and dont give them reasons to suspect?
or just get over it/decide what you want more--her, or your families approval

As an only child of a baptist family, how do I come out that I'm gay and currently dating someone. I feel like I'll get dis owned or my family will just hate me forever or kill them selves if I do

I have a girlfriend who I love, but I don't feel likw I can fully express my sexuality with her because she thinks of me as a straight guy. Is it ok to join the uni lgbt society to express the other parts of sexuality?

>>6895592
If with 'expressing' you mean fucking some guy in the ass, then absolutely not.

>>6895592
Just come out to her. If you want a long-lasting relationship with her you need to be honest. Otherwise you live with a secret and that's not good.

>>6869560
Are you me?

I got a nice bf :D
Im finally happy with who im dating for once!
I have become publicly open about my bisexuality!
For once I feel... happy?

>>6897950
congratulations anon

>>6897958
Thanks friend. How is your life?

>>6889030
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>>6889951
Thanks annons