>transbian into coding

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>>6801891
>mentally ill straight man
>calls himself a "transbian"

>>6801891
why is it so common for transbian hons to all work in IT? iv'e been coming to realize how dangerously accurate this stereotype is

>>6801907
I've noticed the the gays and transgenders who refer to themselves with derogatory terms like tranny, faggot, and transbian seen to act like they have the right to pass judgement on others because they're self deprecating

>>6801959
There seems to be a belief that IT is a self contained field where you're alone a lot so there's less people to pass judgement or whatever so you can be more comfortable in public.

However I worked in IT for a bit and you'll be talking to more people a day than managers seems like

>>6801959
Trans people often feel like they don't fit in with other people because of gender dysphoria. As a result, many of us become reclusive, shut-in introverts. Computers are a great way for reclusive, shut-in introverts to escape society for a few hours a day. The same is true of vidya and animu.

As for why the lesbian stereotype exists, I think that's just confirmation bias. Studies show that the trans population is pretty much 1/3 gay, 1/3 bi, and 1/3 lesbian. If the bi trans population ends up half in straight relationships and half in gay relationships, one in every two trans programmers you meet are going to *appear* to be transbians, regardless of what the truth may be.

>>6802050
You know what else can be done as a solitary pursuit? Cooking, makeup, healthy diets, exercise, daydreaming about cute guys, reading women's books. But, no, they don't do any of that. Because they are men who see being a cute girl as an escape from their failure with women. Femboys have a better claim to having the brain of the opposite sex than transbians.

That transbian in sense8 is a qt t b h

>>6804199
>You know what else can be done as a solitary pursuit? Submitting to the patriarchy.

>>6804240
Normal women aren't going to buy your "b-but, I'm just fighting the patriarchy" excuse for your male personality.

>>6804255
Sure, but you have an awfully sexist view of what women are supposed to be interested in. Computation is a major branch of mathematics. To imply that it is not womanly to practice it is to imply that women are inferior.

>>6804268
>women are inferior than men

You are putting words in my mouth that aren't there. The fact is, a woman into computers is an outlier. The transbian population has a disproportionately large amount of these outliers. Almost all of the women I know from school, work, and growing up are into the things I mentioned earlier, among other "oppressive feminine pursuits". They are all smart and very capable of being awesome at life, and are nothing like your "submitting to the patriarchy and being a helpless, weak woman" feminist brainwashing strawman.

>>6804300
>You are putting words in my mouth that aren't there.
You just listed a bunch of stereotypically feminine activities traditionally presented as things it is virtuous for a woman to pursue by conservative society. You couldn't even leave reading ungendered. Heaven forbid a woman reads a MAN'S book.

>The fact is, a woman into computers is an outlier.
Because they're endlessly told that it is not for them and are then harassed relentlessly once they enter the field. Same as with every other STEM field.

>Almost all of the women I know from school, work, and growing up are into the things I mentioned earlier, among other "oppressive feminine pursuits".
Sure. Socialization is a thing.

>They are all smart and very capable of being awesome at life, and are nothing like your "submitting to the patriarchy and being a helpless, weak woman" feminist brainwashing strawman.
People, by and large, tend to go with the flow and work within the system they are born to. People who have been socialized to develop a certain set of interests due to their gender are not innately corrupted or anything but to see said interests as being essentially womanly while seeing scientific fields as essentially manly is buying into the sexism the society that encourages said interests is selling.

>>6801959
In IT you can talk abut computers to other introverted men. While making unbelievable amounts of money in a booming and constantly changing field having a challenging and secure job for decades to come.

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>>6804315
You sound like you live in some hick fly over state.

I work for a large software company, and it is easily 50% female, if not more.

My scrum team is at least 75% female: the devs and the QAs are mostly female, both PMs are female, our manager is female, and basically the entire doc team is female. I go to meetings that are regularly all female. In fact, I have never once been to a meeting at this company that had a male majority - not once.

And no, they aren't talking about the latest issue of Allure magazine at the water cooler. No, they aren't talking about smashing the patriarchy. No, they aren't neon haired "SJWs." And no, they aren't transbians. In fact the only tranny I've seen at my job is the lady who delivers things.

It's always laughable how skewed the world view is that anons have here.

>>6804199
>i dont understand what is a hobby and what is a job the post

>>6804332
Huh? Did you mean to reply to someone else? How does that post relate to what I wrote?

>>6804365
Yes, sorry. I meant to reply to >>6804300

>>6804346
My point is transbians don't come across as women. Women don't have to be uber girly-girl to come across as women, neither do trans women. That doesn't mean that acting like a man is the same thing. Do they vibe male or do they vibe female?

I also worked at a tech company in a flyover state which was about 40% women. Very few of them acted the way transbians act. The ones who did, admitted to having aspergers, or were horribly immature, like elementary school level personalities.

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>>6804379
No one gives a shit what point you think you've made in a thread on 4chan. The word transbian isn't even real.

>>6804379
Not saying mtfs are somehow essentially female inside (whatever that would mean) but you can't pretend a lifetime of socializaiton has no impact. In my experience people who "vibe" as a certain gender are just conformists who drank the kool-aid.

>>6801965
That's kind of how it works. They're not going to be hypocrites about it.

A world where we don't judge each other or call each other out on our shit is not a world I'd like.

>>6804395
I'm sorry. Trannies can totally act like men, look like men, have male interests, and not be anything like what most would consider an average woman, but they are still women, shouldn't be misgendered, and everyone should and will take them seriously in real life. Got it. Again, I'm sorry, it's me with the backwards views.

>>6804365
You've complained about transbians working in IT and proposed they should just do [list of stereotypically female hobbies].

Hobbies dont bring you money. Trannies seek out solitary jobs so they dont have to deal with people.

>>6804373
Dont impersonate me you fuckwit.

>>6804379
Is that why you propose them to be stereotypically female? Wouldnt that be even more backwards?

Honestly i dont get what you're trying to say here.

>>6804427
>You've complained about transbians working in IT and proposed they should just do [list of stereotypically female hobbies].
I.. did the exact opposite of that. That's what the person I was responding to said, and I said that's ridiculous.

>>6804427
>Dont impersonate me you fuckwit.

I impersonated nobody shitdick.

>>6804449
>>6804439
Wait appartently the wrong links got highlighted? Sorry.

>>6804379
Of course they don't come off as a typical woman, they were raised as males. You could do the same thing to a natal female and her personality would be wildly different from normal women her age. Males and females are raised differently because of biological differences and sexist traditions in our society. It takes a lifetime to unlearn and shitting on someone for the way they were raised is pretty cruel desu.

>>6804427
>Is that why you propose them to be stereotypically female? Wouldnt that be even more backwards?

I'm not saying they should be into things they aren't into naturally. I'm not for forcing hobbies. What I'm saying is if they really were feminine or whatever, then they would have naturally gravitated towards at least a few feminine things, the same way most women do. Femboys are more womanly than most of these "i'm a girl inside" trannies.

>>6804493
Besides me not really seeing why you consider these hobbies feminime...

I actually agree with that, people shouldnt force themselfes to like things they do not, but chances are a tranny discovers she does like these things afterall (or possibly did before) but didnt follow before because masculinity is so fragile that appartently even owning something pink is outrageous.

And many trannies sadly end up repressing and trying to be more masculine.

So i would say femboys merely are more secure in their hobbies because they did not give a shit about appearing masculine.

>>6804493
>What I'm saying is if they really were feminine or whatever, then they would have naturally gravitated towards at least a few feminine things, the same way most women do
Do women gravitate toward these hobbies or does society push them toward them?

>>6804540
You are letting the language of the (((feminists))) frame your argument. It should be, why is the Jew so bent on undermining society, and making women feel bad for their natural inclinations, and like they aren't enough unless they act like men.

>>6804488

Not only that, but they spend years getting heavy test exposure before transitioning.

>>6804652
My my, and you're an antisemite too. It all adds up.

>>6804703
>antisemite

You're either from the tribe yourself, or you have been trained well to respond with fear when someone points out the true nature of the Jew. Good doggy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zv4U1NZpl8

>>6804739
Literally siding with Hitler is usually not a good strategy when it comes to persuasion.

>>6804748
Open your mind, famalam. When someone is right and speaking the truth, they are right, whether it's Hitler, George W Bush, or Obama.

>>6804332
That sounds nice. My company is like 10% female and all but 2 work in HR or customer relations segments. I wonder if it would be nicer or worse to work at a majority female company as an tranny

>>6804739
>Mein Kampf
>le ebin "Red Pill" maymay XDDDDD
>Youtube is a more credible source than the mainstream media
>>>/pol/ is that way, comrade

>>6804770
Okay, but you seem to be expecting people to blindly assume it is truth.

>>6804199
>Cooking, makeup, healthy diets, exercise, daydreaming about cute guys, reading women's books.
Nice career path, that pays for FFS fast, huh?

>>6805904
Nothing is stopping them from getting a job outside of tech. Girls do it all the time while the transbians play warcraft and nerd out about coding.

>>6805879
I was just posting the information. It was an excerpt from his book that explained his reaching a conclusion on the JQ. I happened to go through a similar process myself. We have been fed a very one-sided story over and over for the past 60 years. Claiming Hitler is the ebilist, most bad person to ever live on the planet is hardly objective or how things were in reality. Surely, you would agree that one-sided demonization without looking at the ideas is bad when it comes to homosexuality or weed, right?

>>6805997
>Claiming Hitler is the ebilist, most bad person to ever live on the planet is hardly objective or how things were in reality. Surely, you would agree that one-sided demonization without looking at the ideas is bad when it comes to homosexuality or weed, right?
I think it's obvious that it's not reasonable to compare homosexuality or weed to systematic mass murder.

>fellow transbian
>degree in computer games programming

I like to think that we're better educated and that's why we're more likely to be transbian. We just frankly know more, research more, and are more likely to take a logical approach than others. But I know that sounds awfully snobbish.

>>6806074
I think its cause your just beta straight men and cs is common pursuit of beta straight men

In my school we have quite a few majors that have strong side of programming. There are very very few forced stereotypes and women are active in all fields, but the gender gap varies between the majors like this.

Computer Science 0-1% female
Business & Information Science 20% female
Medical Information Technology 40-50% female
Computation & Physics 10% female
Artificial Intelligence 30-40% female
Mathematical Computation 5% female
Double minor app creation 5% female

Computer Science is also one of the biggest technology majors, they have around 300 people.

>>6804315

A greater proportion of women go into STEM related fields in historically sexist countries such as China and India than in "egalitarian" countries like Norway and Sweden. STEM fields are highly valued in developing countries as many see it as a way to escape poverty or build a stable future.

On the other hand, women in the West, with more choice, economic freedom and social freedom than ever before are making the conscious decision not to go into these fields.

Therefore I see the socialisation argument is an extremely weak excuse for low female numbers in STEM fields. In fact, female involvement in computer-based fields has actually dropped in the last couple of decades despite the massive leaps forward in gender equality.

So the way I see it is that either there's a complex and counter-intuitive social effect going on or maybe, just maybe, women aren't pre-disposed to going into STEM fields.

>>6804689
this

trannies are essentially intersex. is it surprising that traditionally male traits and attraction to women is far more over-represented in trannies than in females? something made these trannies hate being male, they grew up with testosterone flooding them and most of male development. it would be weirder if we were more similar to natal females

>>6806740
Compared to the eighties?

You can only talk about women vs men there aren't less women in STEM fields. The is a higher demand for tech employees than ever before but you're seeing various trends interacting.

A memetic culture sprung up around tech jobs that reinforced the image of a nerdy male paradise. One that's completely devoid of women and not representative of the reality. You have mass media to blame for this.

Your numbers are also off because you're not looking at total amounts nor academic vs corporate vs research.