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/tlg/ - trans-les gen

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/tlg/ : the witchening edition

Tell us about your feats of sorcellery.

Like when you enraptured your >qt3.14 gf, just sayin'

>Links
• Informed Consent Providers:
https://itmb.co/r1uo5 (PDF)
• Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
• MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT (embed)
• Size charts: Just google women's size chart
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
• Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8 (embed)
• Useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV (embed)
• Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU (embed)
• Am I trans/trans help threads archive: http://pastebin.com/CPzj0xv9 (embed)
• Basic Trans Information: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html
• Hormones, and so much more: http://www.transgendercare.com/
• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/

>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez

>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MtF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
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Is it weird if above all else I really like tall girls?? Like, 185cm+ tall
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>>6647516
Of course not!

You're not the only one~
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>>6647553
They are so cute!
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>>6647561
Haiiii~
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>>6647508
what riveting YA graphic novella is this fampai
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I'm going back to college in San Francisco this fall. It's a commuter school with like zero socializing opportunities if you don't smoke, drink, or do drugs. Anybody here going to be in the SF area this fall?
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>>6647759
>being in college
>not experimenting with the ganj

dear sweet chile
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>>6647759
I'm an hour or so away from SF, but that isn't SF and unless really necessary I avoid the area like the plague.
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>>6647516
It's from berserk, but idk if it's riveting, just searched for "manga witch" tbhon.
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>>6647854
I was a serious substance abuser as a teenager. I smoked, drank excessively, and used hard drugs. I'm clean now and I want to get my life on track and be normal, not be a fucking Bernout.
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Wish my cat was bigger. But then he'd eat me when I'm late feeding him.
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My only hope for the future (this is honest) is to start a blog that people care about, write a book people give a shit about, produce an anime, make an album, do live shows for awhile with a few girls in my band (real girls not "girls" like me), get a consistent income somehow despite being totally not what any company on Earth that I am not 100% in charge over would ever want or desire, and basiaclly just move out of my fucking HOUSE CAT AT THE PARENTS LIFE.

I hate it here, how did this happen to me?

I play pokemon competitively-ish for like 5 hours a day avoiding my writing playing piano until my fingers hurt so badly I cry (this is so smart for sure).


I hope I die soon. Fucking starting hormones LITERALLY TOMORROW.


I wish I had a girlfriend to show me tumblr, and all that bullshit that for EVER I've avoided so I can be happy and act like most women my age because it's how i want to be. I'm just so far behind, I'm like my grandparents like good luck showing me anything new I'm already A MAN. Fuck my life :(
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>>6647516
How tall is too tall?
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>>6653432
It's going to be okay.

I didn't quite follow what you felt you were avoiding in that sentence about the pokemon. Just in general, you don't need to do everything you listed in the first sentence, pulling off even one would be impressive. Regardless, it looks like you want to move out of your parents' place, do you have a plan for that? You're probably not right that you couldn't get a job at a regular company either. I get the feeling about being so behind, but people end up in these kind of situations for a lot of reasons, and are often able to get things back on track. I think you'll be capable of that.
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>>6647508
tfw nobody to walk the path of explosions with
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>>6653432
Take it one step at a time. There is a definite possiblity it turns out fine in the end.

>Fucking starting hormones LITERALLY TOMORROW.
Tbhon you sound positively unhinged, maybe that will help with that.

Do you have skills marketable as a freelancer ?
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it's a sad reality when i remember that I'm attracted to really buff strong girls and really adorable ones, but realize I'm a creepy 6 foot 2 man who's only now almost getting hormones after nearly two years of crap. At least I'm really skinny and incredibly socially awkward and terrible, which i think some people find cute and i hope someone does because i have nothing going for me otherwise.

also nothing is worse than the new Berserk anime
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Started E today finally after some issues getting it filled. 2MG X1 per day so far.
Finally some progress.
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>>6653432
How about making Pokemon a reward for after you have done a few hours writing and piano playing?
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hons get out
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Just broke up with my girlfriend after our two month relationship. Meet her online through some mutual friends. /tlg/ will it be hard to find love again?
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>>6660258
Depends on a lot of stuff, but it can be easy enough.
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anyone know of sex positions between a cis girl and a trans girl that minimize dysphoria?
its hard to feel feminine when my dick is above average and still functions, i really hate it despite my efforts to accept it and use it.
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>>6660965
just eat her out and keep your panties on
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>>6660965
amazon position
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>>6660965
I like it when I get to lay on my back and she rides me doing all the work. I don't like thrusting.
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>>6660965
Just stick your weiner inside her and toughen up, she see's you as a fem male anyway kek.
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>>6660965
There are all sorts of things you could do with her that don't require you to use your dick.
If you insist, something where she's the active one and you get ridden in some way works pretty well.
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>tfw being silly
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>>6665772
Being silly is good. It helps making life bearable.
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>>6660965
>>6661026

Seconding the amazon position. Look up gifs on tumblr. It's like the most "feminizing" (if you subscribe to all that) position a person with a penis can be in while still using their penis to penetrate. You may be using your penis, but your girl is absolutely fucking you.

It's pretty fucking hot too. I would love to see some Cis girl/MtF (or FtM/MtF) porn that utilized this position.
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how do you have sex if you're both trans
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>>6674133
with love
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>>6674319
yeah but i actually don't know what to do

i guess i sort of phrased it like I wasn't trans myself idk
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>>6674319
That's the best way for anyone to have sex tbqh.
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>>6670062
I'll bring it up to her, we both want to record us fucking so hey you might get ur wish
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>tfw in love with my gf
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>tfw never had a real IRL relationship, only one that ever lasted more than a month was an LDR
>blew all my money on plane tickets for 2 years, got dumped bc she realized she's poly during my last trans-continental flight
>that was last January
>a few dates here and there since, nothing real
>tfw no sex since this March
>tfw the girl i was banging last texted me recently telling me she regrets not being with me and is in an empty, passionless relationship
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>half of my friends stopped associating with me when I came out
>the other half left when I got sober and decided to get my life together and go to college because apparently not being a burnout junkie makes you a drag to be around
At least I'm in a long term relationship with a wonderful woman. It just kind of sucks how hard it is to make friends as an adult if you don't drink. I wish I had more friends.
>>6675708
That's a good feel.
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>>6678004
>I wish I had more friends.

>>6674352
>yeah but i actually don't know what to do
neither do I, I never had sex.
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the irc is so dead
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Every time i go to tlg, i see some girls that still use their penis.
So i'm wondering, am i the only one who want to throw up if i try anything with it ?

also
>tfw have a gf since February
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>>6679416
everyone is different I guess
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>>6679420
Oh yeah I know, but i've never seen someone else like me (i mean, with the same reaction ), that's all ^^
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>>6679416
I don't have one anymore but it used to seriously disgust me. The dick, I mean, not the girlfriend.
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>>6679381
It's like most people just forget the IRC is there.
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>>6679416
I get depressed if I thrust, otherwise I can use it. We all have different dysphoric responses.
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>yfw you're depressed, ugly, foreveralone
>yfw you can't even bother to find a pic
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>>6661024
Omg....
Just do this all day
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>>6680628
iktf

have some kittens in a cup
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>>6681972
Thank you :3
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This thread is now /tlg/ : transportation lesgen

Discuss your trains or non-trains means of transportion.
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h-h-h-hi
I think I might be a transbian
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>>6684855
There's no such thing as trainsbians, they're just automophiliacs. http://youtu.be/oqDXWEArAA4
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>>6684855
traffic architecture seems interesting
I wish I was smart enough to understand it though
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>>6684928
Nothing wrong with it, and you're totally welcome here.
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>>6684939
You can toy a bit with that in good city building games like SimCity 4, Cities: Skylines or the Cities in Motion series. Not entirely realistic but still interesting.
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>>6684942
yay
>tfw you love your gf
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>>6684959
is your gf an actual female?
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>>6685011
she's much shorter than me and is very cute
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>>6685052
she's not kayla.
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>>6685018
yeah way cuter than you
in fact i can't even begin to fathom why she's with you tbqh phammy
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>>6685093
because she loves me?
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>>6685100
luv is blind desu
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>>6685102
i don't know what you mean by that.
She thinks I'm attractive. She makes me happy. I make her happy
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>>6685106
no you don't, she will eventually leave you for a handsome 6 foot norwegian hunk

and i am not saying this to make you mad, i am just saying this as a friend so you can prepare for that unfortunate day beforehand, to be honestly familiar
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>>6685120
put down your fapping white knight fat hand and stop posting here my man
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>>6685122
she doesn't even like men....
we already planned to be married
I love her so much
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>>6685128
it's inevitable
your denial will make you disappointed more
sorry about your imminent loss
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>>6685132
thanks lori
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>>6685138
you know nothing about her and I. Sorry
I came here because I heard it was nice and the people were supportive and I could find a place to talk about how much I like girls.
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>>6685145
i am as supportive as they get but you need to face the truth first phammy

also her cheeks aren't crimson red for no reason, her body is already preparing her hormonally for that hunk of a man she's about to receive to be honest
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>>6685132
i think she looks super cute with bangs. Maybe I should get some to match her
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>>6685093
>>6685102
>>6685122
>>6685126
>>6685138
>>6685158
Holy shit, jelly much? Are you a migrant from cisles or what?
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>>6685278
calm down my man
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>>6685294
You first bro
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>>6685300
you seem confused
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>>6685306
Not as confused as your gender identity!

Hah!

Got 'em
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>>6685128
cute couple !
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I don't want to be alone anymore...
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>>6685345
thank you very much!
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>>6685345
Agreed! Congrats on winning the cuteness lottery.
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>>6685358
why do you think you're alone?
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>>6685314
holy h*ck can you please not? shaking my head family
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>>6685383
No gf, no friends, living off of welfare, 0,00% self esteem because I'm fat and so on...
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>>6685403
oh, that sucks!
do you have anyway of maybe getting fitter?
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>>6685392
You're the one going "my man". Don't talk shit if you can't take shit fampai. Didn't you learn that being brought up as a male?
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>>6685409
i was home-schooled so ....................... ................. (a few million dots later).
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>>6685408
I really have to find a way to get and stay motivated, need to lose a lot of pounds. ;_;

It's just really hard if you don't have any perspective for your future...
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>>6685420
So what? You had a dad didn't you? What happened to him?
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>>6685426
working out clears my mind, makes me happy, and helps me manage stress.
Sometimes all you need to do to build a future is the simplest thing, giving yourself a goal
>>6685436
i think she just wants to get a rise out of people, also, my gf does kinda look cuter in me in someways. I think maybe you should just ignore her....
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>>6685436
no
he went out to get cigarettes and never returned home ever since
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>>6685480
Aw, alright... I was genuinely curious about her upbringing all of a sudden tho
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>>6685128
Saved for my qt3.14 folder.

Also there's this saying couples tend to converge slowly, both in looks and behaviour. w/r/t >>6685177 Soon enough you'll be clones.

It's kindof a joke with my gf (which knew me before), too, as it seems I am contributing disproportionately to that, seeing I transitioned and all.
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>>6685516
Haha, well, fwiw, we're both the same weight....even if I'm 6 inches taller than her. Not sure if I could pull glasses off tho!
Thanks for thinking we're cute!
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>>6685128
Safety glasses?
Where was that picture taken?
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>>6685574
at a gun range!
we both shot a mosin nagat
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>>6685606
[appreciative tone] Nice!
I keep meaning to try and make a friend to drag to the range as I have a decent box of clays to go through, and solo wouldn't be as fun.
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>>6685631
ha
thank you, I suppose!
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>>6685606
>tfw can't get guns in ny
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>>6685128
>tfw no qt gf to take me to the range and shoot funz with
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>>6685764
well, it was in california. It was actually at a /k/ meetup! we had nice sichuanese food afterwards
>>6685778
I might get a gun sometime soon, good thing kaylee and I are moving to texas!
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>>6685815
Yea I'm living in texas right now. It's okayish. Kinda hate the weather and politics down here tho but at least the gun laws are nice.
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>>6685815
Wait, CA? /k/ meetup?
This is what I get for skipping those, was it the nor/k/al one?
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>>6685912
I'm going to be in the DFW area. I hope we can find some nice ranges!
>>6685922
yup, nor/k/al
everyone was pretty pissed at the new regulations on ammo and such. As well as Hilary getting cleared by the FBI. it was my first time shooting, and it felt really awesome to show off my accuracy and trigger discipline to kaylee and my other gf.
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>>6685955
Huh, sounds like a blast. I'm regretting I couldn't make it, it happened right at the same time I had a bunch of other stuff happening IIRC.
>Missed out on meeting another crossboarder in my position
Feelsbadman.exe.jpeg
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>>6685922
Im down for this idea.
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>>6685989
You're down for such a meetup?
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Oh yay this general is active again ^_^
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>>6688119
It doesn't have the shit posting degenerate trip code children fag posting every other 3rd post and turning themselves anon to throw underhanded insults at each other like notes in a class room. Most of the time they treat 4chan like an anime, of the high-school lunch room spreading rumors. The level of autism today (weekend) reached critical mass. One anon posted a cyberpunk thread and it was like a vacuum. In that vacuum music played, before the sudden static background radiation of trip fags destroyed yet another forum.

We need an mtfg that is split from the trip one. Those kids can pretend they are kawaii desuni and the rest of us can just use 4chan without them having to bicker over who is more Trans :l

I should just go to Tumblr or reddit I'm too ugly and old.
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>>6686021
Yeah. If you're a chick im down for anything
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>>6688149
that sounds pretty good

ugly and old doesn't have anything to do with quality of posting
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>>6688167
Dropped the name, S?
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>>6688267
I think anon was getting at the point that mtfg seems to value beauty and age over actually quality like you mention.

It causes trip favoritism and the younger kids are leading this cancer.
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>>6688326
yeah definitely
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>>6688307
Yup.
No point in being seen if I don't know what im getting into

I mean hell isn't this what you guys want?
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>>6688500
I'm not the one criticizing names and trips, I can honestly say names and trips in generals for people who post repeatedly there makes it a lot easier to follow who is who and what is what.
I just have yet to think of a really decent one for my usage.

Do what makes you happy though, ignore the naysayers since given the trolls on this board and thread, they'll throw a fit and attack posters here, trip or name or anonymous; and if it's not for one reason it will be for another.
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>>6688542
Yeah. But for me it went deeper than that. I had reasons. (Well just one really) but i think its gone now. So that's the end of that.
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>>6688571
Alright.
Hope you stick around at least, it's nice having you to talk to here.

And as far as >>6688167 goes I didn't expect you to be on the US west coast or near it.
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>>6688542
I like the trips, because I can filter all of them. But a lot of the time I miss out because posts link to invisible dead links for me. Most of the anons responding to trips are usually other trips it's pretty obvious, but still it makes the thread usable again
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>>6688630
I'm still around. Just dropping the trip
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The problem isn't even the trips, that makes sense. It's the way they use them to form high-school drama cliques and 50% of the board is just younger degenerates picking sides.
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>>6688659
Gotcha, good to have you still around at least.
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>>6688667
And what would those sides be exactly?
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>>6688680
=^_^=
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>>6688667
am i an ok trip

should i drop trip
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>>6688773
Look i had an identity in here was just a courtesy to a girl i wad infatuated with. But i think she's gone now. So that's the end of that.
But anything you guys use to decipher one another is useful to each other. It tells you where you are in walls of text. And lets you know where you left off. Your trip is fine. Don't trip potato chip. You are oooohkay
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>>6688813
ok ^^
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I haz a hat

Also bump.
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I imagine I'll stick out in a crowd like a Titan for awhile now that I've started HRT and will start having strange boobs :l
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>>6679416
>>6680578

me too but because i was given that bad touch as a kid and cannot see myself topping without being a rapist. guy btw.
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I feel really guilty when I watch porn, like I've internalized the idea that women don't watch it and that if I watch it then I'm not trutrans or something
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>>6695660
If it helps, most of the women I know watch porn-percentage wise, more of the women i know than the men I know watch porn.
They just tend to talk about it a bit less often except to other people they know to be open minded enough with the whole expectation of "women don't watch porn".
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>>6695660
Hmmm. Sounds like a personal problem.
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>>6695660
>transfolk raised in prudish societies
Truly sad.
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>>6695715
Yeah, I feel like I'm objectifying women or something, its shit

Oddly enough I feel less guilty watching BDSM things since its more about the kink :v
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>>6695660
hey ciswoman here, pretty much everyone I've talked to about it watches porn, including me. that doesn't make you less of a girl in any way shape or form
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>>6695951
Second.
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>>6684928
Yes :3
Welcome to the club
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>>6685128
Omg you're so cute together
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>>6696898
They're both lucky.
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Hey tlg. What's up with you guys lately?
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>>6701147
Been selling stuff and regretting missing the meetup mentioned earlier in the thread and watching GoT.
You?
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>>6701167
In pain, tired ect. Work is really taking a toll on me. Missing my S. I had forgotten how useful it was.
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>>6701202
You going to be alright with work being that harsh?
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>>6701207
Idk. These eleven hour days are really fucking me up. Well my feet mostly. If they didn't hurt i would be fine and could possibly work even longer. But my feet are bleeding and haven't had a chance to recover.
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>>6701235
Holy shit, that is a brutal shift. Been trying any treatments for your feet besides trying to get recovery time?
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>>6701264
I do the epson salt dip. I take glutamine. Pain killers. Nothing works except being off my feet. But i don't get enough down time to let the sores heal up.
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>>6701276
Ouch, I'm really sorry.
FWIW I've had good luck with vaseline on some cuts and such.
Hopefully you can get some time off to recover soon.
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>>6701276
Sounds like you also need much better shoes and socks for being on your feet so long. Take care of the sores so they don't get infected. Do something to protect the sores so they don't take any more rubbing. Bandages and medical tape may be needed. That is the only way they have a chance of healing. Also they may scar badly if you don't.
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>>6701370
Seconding this, I know a few people who spend their entire work shifts on their feet and they all recommend dansko shoes.
With any luck that might be of some use.
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>>6701333
>>6701370
>>6701414

One of the sores on my feet right now
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They hurt so bad.
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>>6701478
I'm so sorry. Wish I could do something to help.
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>>6701506
Its all good dear. We all choose our own fate. This is just something i have to live with.
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>>6701478
I'm not seeing obvious signs of an infection, but you have thick calluses too and that may block view of the telltale redness. Those thick calluses look to be preventing healing by forcing to much bending where the sore is. I've had them after hiking many many miles, and I carefully cut them away using a scalpel blade. Otherwise I'm not sure what to do.
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>>6701652
I know. I'm telling you guys. It's taking a toll on my feet. They really hurt. Gonna get new waking shoes first chance i get.
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>>6701782
I'd suggest also thinning those calluses too. That will allow the area to flex properly and put less stress on the skin at the joint. When I used the scalpel blade, I slowly skimmed off layer by layer until it was nicely flexible again. I didn't even go all the way through the callus. One could use a pumice stone too.
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>>6685955
>other gf
>because I'm not in the pic
Well fuck me in the asshole.
Could have at least mentioned that you were shooting some of my guns.
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>>6701834
I've been doing that but i don't think it's enough. I use a pearing knife. It's just really deep at this point. I just really need some time off my feet.
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there's a cis girl from my town that I've been seeing this summer. She's really sweet and we're calling each other "kinda girlfriends." I'm cool with this but we're going back to school soon and are going to be like 4 hrs away from each other and I don't know what to do. I know I need to talk to her but I don't really know what to say. pls help an inexperienced girl out.
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>>6702044
>Yet another /tlg/ regular was there
Christ did I miss out.
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>>6702761
If it's really deep it might be a plantar wart underneath? I had a small one in my foot before, cutting them out as a DIY thing just never succeeds. The various stuff for removing plantar warts may help, but best bet is to visit a foot doctor and have them remove it.
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>tfw memories of being in the padded cell. ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___; ;___;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZl8i2umBb8
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Trying to decide if I should start using a trip on this board. Feel like I gotta fight the good fight and boost trans-les visibility. I don't think I super pass yet but I am close if not there. I don't get clocked in public much any more. And I have a kick ass bi girlfriend who I am moving in with soon and getting a cat :3


To trip or not to trip that is the question!

I am also going to be moving/driving literally across my country to be with her so it is no small thing. I am going to do it in a car branded with pokemon go stuffs too haha ><
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>>6706334
Go ahead if you hang around often.
Having used one on another board it honestly does make some stuff easier.
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>>6706378
I'm on /LGBT/ entirely too often.

This board is pretty deadly for mental health. (Not trans-les gen specifically though)
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>>6706398
Well, I won't argue that, I've seen the catalog here enough times.
Not that it is always better elsewhere.
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>>6706334
Tripfags should all be gassed, really defeats the purpose of this website.
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>>6709519
>4chan
>Purpose
Bwahahahahahaha.
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bump
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This seems like it is slowly dying. :(

Should I post a picture of myself to see if you think I am cute? :3
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>>6715685
Go ahead? it's up to you really.
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>>6715136
I've got 2 of 'em, though they seem to be staying about the same while my band size shrinks.
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>tfw you'll never be someones gf
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>>6716282
Because you don't want to be. Not because you can't
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>>6715685
Most discussion goes on in /mtfg/ now.
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>>6717579
Why?
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>>6717596
The environment in /mtfg/ is more f-f relationship friendly now.
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>>6717680
But lesbians aren't allowed in there.
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>>6717680
That would surprise me.
I like it here more anyways, not the instant posting speed of /mtfg/ where the thread bumps in a day and conversations are nearly impossible to follow due to the speed.
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>>6717698
Yes they are. There are more than a few lesbian posters there. Many bisexuals too. Some are even cis.
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>>6717720
Times have changed then.
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>>6717720
Nvm. I just remembered why i don't go in there.
To much penis acceptance.
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>>6717719
This has generally been more adult in tone of conversation. Much less drama. I prefer that too over /mtfg/.

>tfw have memories of looking up at a lover from a sunken bath like this.

>>6717735
Yes, I'm not surprised. People go through their transition, and move on.
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>>6717745
>Sunken bath
That, especially with a lover sounds so fun and looks so potentially fun.
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>>6717756
It was. I just have a snippet of memory from then, but I know we bathed plus more in that tub a number of times. It started out as a morning after activity, then sometimes I'd come over early, and we'd get bathe and get ready together.
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>>6717834
Well now I wish I had the space for such a tub, it sounds like you had a lot of fun with what you recall of that.
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>>6717841
Yeah, she had plenty of space. It was in her Pierre Hotel apartment. She had the western third of 2 floors to herself. Not as prestigious as the Plaza just a few blocks away, but she had views north, south, and west overlooking Central Park from her living room. The bathroom had south and west views. I know she was one of my clients, but I also loved her too. I think I fell in love with most of my long term female clients.
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>>6717934
As prestigious as another place or not, that is still one hell of a living space.
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>>6717971
lol True... She sold the place when she moved into a new place with her business partner and now husband. It is a business marriage of convenience, not for love. They have a few businesses they own together, and this secures inheritance. They are good friends, love each other as friends, but both sleep with others. She jokes that I've slept with him more than she has, but that isn't true. He was a client a few times, but not often enough to make up for when they lived together a few years when their joint businesses were founded.

I think the Pierre had more character than the Plaza. The Plaza was more gilded, but the architecture was nicer in the Pierre. I also felt the Dakota, on the other side of Central Park, was also a bit boring architecture wise. I had two clients and a friend there. Each apartment had it's own unique decor so I'm referring to the common halls, foyers, etc. of the buildings.
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>>6718130
Sounds like quite the high end place and lifestyle.
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