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>>6625304
it's called degenerate fetishism

>>6625310
>>6625311
It's not sexual though. Like at all.

>>6625304
you're most likely a confused femboy, not that you or anybody should care, if it makes you happy keep doing it, i can only get jealous of your stable mindstate

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I guess I am sort of with you. Personally, I love who I am and what I have done so far in my life. I love my family and friends. I am exceptional at my craft.

If I had the option to be reborn a woman, I would not take it because I know I would not end up who I am today (personality wise/interest wise/experience wise).

I'm not happy to be transgender but socialization as a male inevitably led me to my craft which has completely defined my life and taken me all over the world + payed my way through colleges.

My childhood created part of the person I am today and I am thankful to be that person. It really sucks that I have terrible gender dysphoria and have to transition but I think if I were born a woman I'd probably just end up some basic bitch.

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>>6625321
OP here, I think you nailed it pretty hard. This is probably what I am feeling.

Thanks for this post

>>6625321
this is my feel too
especially because, dealing with dysphoria taught me to take care of myself and learn to think positively, and dealing with discrimination taught me to be a kind and emotionally mature person

>>6625304
I wish I had started earlier, but I'm fine with not being cis. I don't care so much about my genitals.

>>6625321
Damn, this is on point. I feel that.

I assume your craft is music, then?

>>6625304
>>6625310
>/femgen/
>>6625311
You mean femboyism

>>6625304
I like being tiny. If I had been born cis I would be over a foot tallet than I am and had big feet and hands. So that's good I guess. Tfw no dick tho :(

Im not happy about it at all. But im happy in this day and age i have the opportunity to transition.

I get you, OP. I'm FTM, and while there's a lot of shit I hate about being trans, I am grateful for the dual perspective my experiences have given me.

I wish I was born a girl but vaginas are gross so yeah

>>6626090
p much same

vaginas are gross af and it would be gross to have one, but i have dysphoria about not having one anyway.

I'm not sure if i would rather be a cis girl. it would make things easier, but i know i wouldn't be the same person and on top of that i would have a weird alien-looking hole in me.

>>6625304
Kinda fits femgen, only we don't actually want to b girls

>>6625541
do you ever wonder why you have a compulsive need to differentiate yourself from trans girls

if you're a femboy on hrt you're literally the same thing as an mtf. none of us wanted to be here, none of us wanted to have dysphoria, and taking estrogen is the best treatment for it. how you style yourself and the pronouns people use to refer to you are less important. you could shave your head and never wear makeup but you'd still be the same as the average trans girl deep down.

at some point there became this notion that you can choose a "gender identity". you can't. maybe trans girls aren't "real girls" but all of yall are way more like girls than guys, based on my experience. it's actually bizarre reading femgen and seeing all of these posts from femboys insisting that they aren't women, despite acting way more like a support group for bitchy, moody young women than angsty young men.

does it matter how you "identify"? because it seems like it's the same thing regardless.

>>6625321
>If I had the option to be reborn a woman, I would not take it because I know I would not end up who I am today (personality wise/interest wise/experience wise).
This. Growing up as a girl, I'd be a different person, and I'd lose the understanding of being male that makes me want to be a girl and want a bf. I want to keep who I am and be a girl physically. Then I'd really appreciate being female.

>>6626382
>the pronouns people use to refer to you are less important.
No. If you don't want female pronouns when you don't really want to be a woman. I'm not transitioning because it won't make me a "real girl" but there's nothing I want more than that and I long for female pronouns.

>>6626517
but.... what.

>>6626530
What is it?

>>6625304
I can't wait until reality crashes upon you like a landslide.

>>6626575
y do u care so much

>>6626382
since I was a kid, I've always admired women and girls and have always wanted to be like them, feminine and beautiful instead of manly and strong. I have had some body dysphoria since puberty, and im starting HRT soon (at 24) - i only recently realized that selfmedication is possible, and the only way for me since I don't want to transition socially.

social transition and changing my name just feels so fake - it would be me trying to be something I know I'm not. I don't want to become another person, I just want to be as feminine as possible while being myself - a guy.

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>>6626382
Pls no bully

>>6625310
/thread

>>6626711
>i only recently realized that selfmedication is possible, and the only way for me since I don't want to transition socially.
you're being an idiot if you selfmedicate

femgen: the thread

>>6626792
well what am I supposed to do? I don't want to become any more manly but you cant get hormones here through the official route without agreeing to socially transition

>>6626821
I don't know, maybe you can get an opinion on the treatment you're considering for yourself from an actual doctor, but somehow do it anonymously?

>>6626711
idk to me if you're feminine and androgynous enough at a certain point it can be, in a kind of visceral way, not intuitive that you're a "guy" to others. so if you styled yourself exactly how you wanted, and did everything you could to relieve your dysphoria, would anyone other than the people who have known you your whole life think of you as a guy? I present as a femboy and take estrogen to cope with my dysphoria, but sometimes people think I'm a woman anyway, or an ftm, or despite having short hair and covering up my boobs they assume I'm an mtf or i do drag. for a lot of people it feels natural to use female pronouns for me or call me "girl" or w/e even though they know I'm male, just because I'm fem and androgynous. that doesn't make me a different person than i was before (neither would using a different name. I've always used different names/nicknames to refer to myself throughout my life. names aren't who you are, they're the word that people use to refer to you).

i want to grow my hair out and start wearing makeup more and i don't plan on hiding my body for the rest of my life. i know that regardless of how well i end up "passing", people will still read me as female. and I'm not going to explain my situation to them unless I'm close to them or it matters for some other reason, because i don't want to attract unnecessarily attention to myself.

maybe think of it this way? you might be male, but you aren't really a guy, are you? idk. i don't think there are any clear answers about this stuff, but i feel like femboys on hrt and mtf's are less like separate genders and more like girls in unisex clothes vs girls in girly clothes.

>>6626720
sry about bully

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>>6626818

No dude. I identify as a woman and I always have. I just wouldn't trade the unique path of life I've had thus far for rerolling as cis.

What I have cultivated, learned, and grown to is has more value than any gender or sex. I wish I were born cis, but I wasn't. I'm very grateful for having the opportunity to transition socially and physically while retaining my experiences, knowledge, individuality, and history. I can hate that part of myself (gender), while still being happy with the other elements of my existence (transition has fixed a lot of that anyways).

I'm not a femboy. I'm a girl.

>>6626895
>I'm not a femboy. I'm a girl.
i still don't understand why they're considered so different other than ppls insecurities tbqh

imo femboys are girls anyway so i really don't see how being one excludes being the other

Some people are born transgender and some transition later on. either way is fine! :D

>>6626849
I don't think I could ever pass as a woman though. I've gone full girlmode a couple times in my life but all the staring and whispering just got to me (I grew really tall pretty early and stuff) so I'm planning to just clearly present as male in public. still think its worth it though and maybe I'll find a guy who wont mind

I don't feel completely like a man, but I dont mind that, its just that deep down inside I know I'm not female either

and yeah the whole mtf/femboy thing is interesting, like the people who change from one group to another, both ways

>>6626935
D:

>>6625304
I don't wish I was born as a girl because I think that I would be a different person because my entire life would have been different. I wouldn't have been as socially isolated and I would have basically had no real challenges in my life to overcome.

Being trans and being born male has affected my entire outlook on life I don't know if that would really be me. I don't know if I would have the same personality or beliefs or anything. I wouldn't have made the same friends, and I like to think that maybe I've positively affected a few people's lives that I wouldn't have ever reached if I wasn't trans.

And I don't want to die or stop existing.

In retrospect though I think that the most moral/ethical thing would have been for me to never exist because I don't think anyone should have to live this kind of life.

But now that I'm here i wouldn't change anything about my past. I am who I am because of it and maybe I'm a better person for it. The best you can do is use what you got. Accept what already is and make the most of it.

>>6626986
omg this post

>>6626895
Aren't you that superman guy?

>>6626950
that sucks but i know where you're coming from.

and fwiw imo you can definitely find a guy who doesn't mind. there are a lot of bi guys who are above all attracted to femininity instead of explicitly looking female.

Kinda related to OPs question.

I don't really feel like im a girl, but im not a man either. I want to look like a girl, have breasts and sound like a girl.
If a button would make me one id press it.
Before someone says agp or that, this isnt sexual.
Am i trans or what?

>>6625908
Same here. I have learned a lot that can only be fully understood through personal experience. I think it's made me a better, more mindful person.

>>6628959
Anyone has thoughts?

>>6629198
Sounds a little like femgen, only they never really wanted tits to begin with -some might have adjusted to having them- just wanted to look feminine and keep a feminine face.

But what you want to look like doesn't automatically mean you're trans or AGP or whatever. Everyone has their own self image and way they feel comfortable in looking like. I don't see why social dysphoria has to come with that.

>>6629198
Sounds a little like femgen, only they never really wanted tits to begin with -some might have adjusted to having them- just wanted to look feminine and keep a feminine face.

But what you want to look like doesn't automatically mean you're trans or AGP or whatever. Everyone has their own self image and way they feel comfortable in looking like. I don't see why social dysphoria has to come with that.

>>6629335
Well i want breasts and such.
Is it possible for me to get hrt, because i really want it.

>>6629387
Really easy if you want to play by your own rules

>>6629463
Well i am sure that i want to look and kinda be a girl. I know that i want hormones, i feel more like myself when im feminine and can express myself freely and be who i want and to do that i need hormones.
I want to be a girl or at least pass as one.

>>6629521
What if i really want to be a girl, but my apathy tries to fuck with me.

>>6629335
I can't help it. The dysphoria just comes and i hate myself when it happens. I look so bad and uglystupid.
I don't want to touch my dick anymore, because its disgusting.

>>6629693
Help, what do i do?
I want hormones, but im scared that doctor won't give them if i explain how i feel. Im almost crying, anyone can at least say comforting words ;__;

I don't wish I was born a girl, but I wish that I could have gotten puberty blockers and transitioned earlier.

I'm not born in the wrong body, my body received the wrong puberty.

Please. Can someone tell her/his thoughts. I can't deal with this now i hate my masculinity.
Should i go and try get hormones?

>>6626792
thanks for the advice hun

>>6629925
eehh, you don't want ovaries and stuff? And a natural hormone system?

>>6629974
Masculinity has nothing to do with gender. Just be a sissy.

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>>6628258
WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSUME I'M GAY JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO LOOK LIKE A GIRL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6630024
I don't want to be sissy I want to be a girly and feminine. I want to be a girl.

>>6630066
I want to sound, look, act and feel like a girl. Not a sissy.
I feel more free and natural when I feel like a girl.

>>6630024
And let me correct that I hate male things in me, like facial hair, genital and so on. Also how my face looks, but nothing I can do to that.

>>6630094
When you become a girl you will never feel free again

>>6630116
What do you mean? Also I don't feel free now either so.

>>6630125
Then you'll never be free

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>>6629752
It's going to be OK. You're gonna make it.

>>6630129
What do you mean. Tell me more, i don't understand.

>>6630143
I hope so, should i try hormones?

>>6625304
Yeah I feel ya OP

If I was born as someone else that's female then that wouldn't be me, it would just be some other person

I quite like the way I grew up and became the person I am today, and going through this metamorphosis from male to female is actually hella cool and exciting, I'm glad I got to kinda see both sides of the gender spectrum, I think it's made me a more discerning person overall.

>>6630147
It seems like you it could benefit you. tbhon you sound quite trans.

Anyway, I know it's tempting to have someone else make the decision for you, but ultimately it's you that should decide if hormones/transition are what you need.

>>6630181
Don't know why, but i feel happy that you said i am trans. Im going to go towards the path of hormones.

>>6626681
Why do I want to be a girl? Ask anyone why they're trans.

>>6630038
>gay
you mean girl-straight.

>>6631014
I'm trans tho....

and i would say it's because i have dysphoria that i needed to treat. that doesn't mean i have to care about being a real woman or w/e. all that matters is that i can be myself and do what i feel i need to do without feeling ashamed.

>>6632139
Maybe you care more about the physical side? I just want to be treated like a pretty girl and have a boyfriend like a pretty girl does.

>>6625304
I feel the same way, sure I've always wanted to be a girl but it's that much more rewarding to finally be one when I've spent so many years being a guy. Don't mind my dick either.

>>6632289
are you sure that's healthy tho

i mean i understand wanting to feel/be pretty, but does that really depend on being a woman or not? and I'm not sure what it has to do with getting a boyfriend. there are lots of pretty people who like women

>>6633304
>are you sure that's healthy tho
No...

Feeling pretty and having a boyfriend are things women get that I want.

>>6625321
What is that blue pill on the left?

>>6633437
finasteride

>>6633669
Thank, comrade.
What's the point of taking it in addition to spiro and estrogen?

>>6625311
nice try troll

Personally I coped with my feelings of not being a boy by watching fetish porn that made me feel like a girl. BEcause I hid any femme parts of myself for so long. recently decided to start being myself and transition and I no longer have much of a desire to look at my old porn.

>>6625304
I know the feels op. Basically My sex is male like having a penis and what not. but I dont want people to look at me and assume that I feel like what society thinks is "male".

>>6633683
it specifically suppresses any remaining DHT which causes baldness.

>>6625304
>I feel like I'm the only trans here that is actually happy about being born as a guy and slowly transition into a trap rather than just being born a girl.

Did you always feel that way, or did you hate your male life until you transitioned?

>>6625304
>I am glad that i have a mental illness

Yeah and people are glad to live under my regime. Everything else is pure western propaganda.

>>6625304
OP, you sound exactly like me. I definitely am Trans, I got the dysphoria out the wazoo but it just doesn't apply to my dick. Don't let the "muh AGP" trolls confuse you. There's nothing wrong with wanting the body you want and being attracted to the people you are attracted too.

You'd think that a board for /lgbt/ would understand that but... AYYY, /POL/ MEMES.

>>6637613
What is gender dysphoria? Don't make me get off my horse and smack you.

>>6637633
Why doesn't the horse have slanty eyes too?

>>6637633
>the condition of feeling one's emotional and psychological identity as male or female to be opposite to one's biological sex.

That can present as a variety of symptoms, which may or may NOT apply to hating your penis. Retard, checkm8.

>>6637637
Because the beast is blinded by my glory.

>>6637642
A condition, that's a nice way to put it if you avoid the truth. It's called a mental illness. Why would any sane person love being mentally ill?

>>6637671
Because when you succeed in your goal of looking like a cute girl you end up feeling even better than not having the illness at all.

>>6631171
no, like a guy who likes guys and physically looks like a girl.

>>6637671
Your memes are weak. Condition is a mental illness. I don't think most sane tranny's, myself inclueded, wouldn't say they have a mental illness.
For a lot of people transitioning is the best answer for their condition.

>>6637732
>wouldnt say they DONT have a mental illness. Woops. I mean yea, Gender Dysphoria IS a mental illness.

>>6637671
>>6637656
>>6637633
>>6637601
Not either anon, but why did the Kim Jong Un pictures get deleted? Why not just delete that post, they were low power level /pol/ing anyway.

>>6625321
>I think if I were born a woman I'd probably just end up some basic bitch.
This x1000
Being trans mean I'll always try harder and never take being female for granted.

Women in the US are raised to be whores. My parents would have been better but I'm still happy to have been raised a man. Got that whole personal responsibility and enforced self-reliance tip which has done me plenty of favors growing up.

>>6625310
MEME
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>>6639262
Always wondered what people meant by "AGP is a meme". Do you mean that people who have those symptoms dont exist or that its just one way to be trans?

>>6639525
Calling someone AGP is just another way that heterosexuals say "don't do that." It's just a lie like they always do.

>>6625304
If it had been my first year I would disagree.

Now, yeah I don't mind, it's been a fun life and a surprising amount of it is down to being queer..

No. I don't like being trans at all...People treat you like a delusional freak and no one wants to date you much less marry you. You're passively conflated with sexual predators and prostitutes and your family will always see you as a mentally ill man/woman. The best treatment you can possibly get from others is them reluctantly humoring you or deceiving them into thinking you're cis.

Why the fuck would i like being trans? Serious fucking question. I get that we all need coping mechanisms but why flat out lie about something like that?

>>6639934
Also if another thread came up asking if you would take a pill to stop being trans the majority of you hypocrites would say yes.

>>6639940
It's not hypocritical for a straight cis Christian to say muh gay the pray away.

>>6639940
Hmm. That's a really difficult question. I suppose I would, I mean... it's just less painful and more practical to be heterosexual or vanilla homo.

>>6626849
Your story really rings my bell, and once i start hrt i would love to be confused as a girl or a ftm.
Are you only on estro ?

i mean, being a non-op mtf, yeah, i like being trans, cause I wouldn't like having a vagina.
But if i were born cis then I would have liked being that too so, eh.
It's like that Ricky Gervais joke. People always assume that becoming a zombie is inherently a bad thing but from every zombie's perspective it's the opposite. If you are a zombie you like being a zombie cause wandering around and eating brains is what you like...
you know what i mean?
So, as far as I'm concerned, from where I stand now, I do like being trans, and really the only thing that I don't like about it is the fact that in modern society it's such a big deal. But that's an external thing, it's got nothing to do with how I feel about myself

>>6639538
What even is AGP?

>>6641910
AGP means autogynephilia, which means getting sexually excited by the thought of being or becoming female. The classic theory states that you can basically either be actually trans or just have this fetish. Calling someone AGP is used to discredit them and imply that they are transitioning just because the idea turns them on.

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>>6625304
/thread

>>6641665
i take spiro and estrogen, yeah

yw for the bell ring

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>6642277
I dont mind people calling me he os she, for i know that i will never be a complete woman but i love their aesthetic, feelings and their ways so much.
Have you developed boobs?
How do you take them in order to stay andro?
I know i ask much, but i got intrigued and iwould like to follow rhe path you are in

That's pretty cool. I think about being born a girl a shitton so I can't say I'm in that camp.

>>6626935
:DD

>>6625304
>loving my dick too damn much?
not possible