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Totes gay edition

>Links
• Informed Consent Providers:
https://itmb.co/r1uo5 (PDF)
• Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
• MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT (embed)
• Size charts: Just google women's size chart
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
• Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8 (embed)
• Useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV (embed)
• Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU (embed)
• Am I trans/trans help threads archive: http://pastebin.com/CPzj0xv9 (embed)
• Basic Trans Information: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html
• Hormones, and so much more: http://www.transgendercare.com/
• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/

>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez

>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MtF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
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>tfw no gf
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>>6528382
>tfw too intellectual for gf
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so second meeting of cute russian biochemist, we do the diddily and cuddle for two days straight while playing games and eating shitty food. visit included drinking vodka at 8 AM and then playing piano together.

Is life a meme? are these stereotypes?
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>>6528343
>Totes gay edition
I love you girls desu
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>>6528738
Nice meme, nice life. I wouldn't mind being that kind of stereotype.
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>>6528382
>tfw wife
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>>6528605
Some ladies prefer smart girls.
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I'm wondering if anyone else has ever had this happen so quick background..

>After HRT got the mtf meme cocklust
>End up liking guys and think I won't like girls anymore
>talk to another girl almost a year later
>lesbian jokes ensue
>oh shit they're not jokes
>wonder how sex would work for a few days
>somehow feel like topping for the first time in ever
>w-what?

So basically thought I only liked guys for a while and while I considered the possibility of liking girls because I used to before HRT, I didn't expect it + thought it would be really difficult to engage in sex with dysphoria and all that. But when I get turned on and think about her it seems to go away and it's weird. I mean I guess it's sort of a good thing but I think it's weird since I've usually exclusively been sub in bed, even before HRT.
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>>6530585
I know this feeling. Before I got on hormones I was obsessed with staying as far away from masculinity as I could.

I'm not entirely comfortable with myself yet, I have a ways to go. But I'm not so worried about doing 'masc' things anymore.

This has worked into my sexuality and I've moved away from exclusively straight on towards bi.

>shameless pic whoring

I already posted this pic in another thread, is that a sin?
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>>6530274
>tfw gf is not wife
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>>6531184
>TFW ring shopping for gf
>TFW she knows I am
>TFW she said yes before I officially asked
Today has been unusually good.
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>tfw lost my cellphone
I'm pretty sure I know where I forgot it. Hopefully it was turned in.
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>>6530655
where have you been all my life?

are you even wearing makeup there?
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Am i still a lesbian if im interested in just ONe trans girl that you can't tell for nothing in the world she's trans. She's beautiful and she looks older somehow. (Something I'm very interested in) i want her but i am allegedly a true lesbian. (Never fucked a dude) but this one girl looks walks and talks like a girl! She's even an attractive girl. Did i lose my lesbian status for liking her?
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>>6533350
It all depends on if you consider trans women real women. If yes you're all good if not you've got an existential crisis on your hands.
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>>6533040
Unless I have some foundation left over from the night before, nah. I'm not that great at makeup. :p
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>>6533360
damn, ur qt. I wish i could rock no makeup, but it just doesn't work.

you could come over and i could teach you makeup? and totally not hit on you and try to sleep with you
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>>6533354
For all intensive matters. She Is a girl. The only thing that might make her not a girl is that she's pre-op. But thats the ONly thing remotely wrong with her. Passing is an understatement. She's hot. I want to fuck her, then hold her close and kiss her neck afterwards. But i am having trouble even picturing in my head that she even has anything other than a sweet vag between her legs. I want to eat her out. But its impossible? She told me she wants to get srs. But for now what am i supposed to think of my self? What the hell am I?
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>>6533350
Yes, you are still lesbian. Think think about what causes you to be attracted to her. It's her feminine qualities.
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>>6533376
Well, you'll be able to eat her out a few months after SRS. And it won't make you less of a lesbian even now, since she's a girl.
That's something I realized after sleeping with a straight girl who told me she was uncomfortable through the whole thing because I made her feel like a lesbian. She wanted me to be a guy so much, but that just wasn't possible.
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>>6533370
If you live in TX then hell yeah...I'm bored over here :p
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I can't take this heat. Won't get cold enough to sleep for at least 3 hours, and i'm so tired...
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Bump
To have more to read.
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>>6536336
What do you want to read/chat about?
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anyone actively practicing their vocal range?

I just started electrolysis after laser, didn't have much facial hair to begin with
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>>6536695
I ride to work for like 45mins each way and practice holding my vocal chords up. It's kinda working, but as soon as I get a cold or am exhausted it all drops back down again. Very frustrating
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>>6533652
Damn i live in England. How about i serenade you with my silky british accent
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>>6537308
if she's not interested i am pls
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girls are cute imo
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>>6537370
Fuck off

>>6537308
Do me.
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>>6537370
>>6537375
i am not prepared for this
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>>6537308

>Bristol
>Silky
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>>6537414
The Bristol accent is like the noise you make if you were to cover your balls in dog shit and drag them trough broken glass. Smooth as silk.
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>>6537423

Southern English accents are pretty bad. I'm a fan of the posh Yorkshire accents (Not countryside oop norf accents).

Apparently my accent is noticeably Welsh but when I went to uni in Exeter, nobody could place my accent.
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>>6537427
Posh West country, Welsh borders area? I get the same thing.
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>>6537414
its more of a general southern british accent. I moved around a lot so i dont really have a regional accent. but yah some british accents are not silky at all
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>>6537434

I'm from Cardiff, lived in Bristol, Taunton and Falmouth over the last few years so I suppose it's the south west not the south that I know. London accents are pretty shit though.
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>>6537406
You can woo me with your voice and I'll break out a good 'ol 'merican southern drawl and we can re enact the revolutionary war
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>>6537448
Nice, I like Cardiff, the casinos are great. I'm living in the south east about an hour away from London so I get the "souf lunun" accent allot. It bugs the shit out of me.
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>>6537450
i actually find that accent really sexy...

take me now pls.
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>>6537463

Casinos in Cardiff? You're going to fucking arsehole ends of that city.
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>>6537471
I'm a hard nut, innit
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>>6537450
ah yes the great southern city of Chicago
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>>6537625
I might not be from the south but I can still do the voice
>>6537466
i would if i could do it as a girl lol, i don't have my girl voice ready yet
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>>6538944
Move to the real South, you poser. I need cuddles and head pats right now. Will reciprocate.
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Subby pillow princess here,

How can I make my girldick hard enough to actually penetrate and give my qtgf the rough fucking she craves?
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>>6539191
Sorry, I'm only moving North West to Portland
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>>6539196
i always try to dress up as my favorite anime qts because that gets me hard. also, wear slutty lingerie
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>>6539196
penis pump + cock ring ;)
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>>6538944
thats okay, i can help you with that :)
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>>6539196
Something like Viagra should work.
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>>6536627
anything really, I just like to read what everyone thinks about everything
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>>6541339
Well, that openness leaves me out of any specific ideas, I've been up to not much lately beyond helping deal with some houseguest stuff and some minor (for me) home projects.
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>>6541381
Forgot to add, also wondering why the Rizon seems dead whenever I hop into it, no matter how long I leave it up.
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>>6541339
I asked you this in the last thread, but you must not have seen it because you didn't answer, but is there anything in particular that draws you as a cis girl to post in these threads?
Not that I'm judging you for it or anything; I'm just curious.
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>>6541381
Heh heh, truth be told I'm really just looking for answers that I'm never going to find. and I figure if someone one day decides to tell me then One I will make a new friend, and Two I might get some closer or at least something to make me stop thinking about some girl I cant get out of my head, I hate that I look so stupid about it. Yet am powerless to make it stop.

>>6541387
What's the Rizon?
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>>6541418
Answers to what questions?
And as far as she goes, someone special on your mind?
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>>6541429
They are kind of brute questions, so I don't know how to ask them yet. still working on it. then the girl doesn't even care. just bothers me that the shittier people get to fuck up the good people and for some reason the good people blame the Other good people. NOT the fuckface that did all the damage in the first place.
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>>6541538
Shit, I'm sorry. Dunno what I can do to help, but feel free to ask if there is something.
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Good morning best general
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So at around 5 months of HRT I've started to really hate porn.
Even lesbian porn just seems so blatantly designed with men in mind.
It's literally a 2 second romantic scene with no substance to it whatsoever, just some weird latency period to segue into the "real" porn, which is basically zooming in on a bunch of naked body parts, which just feels so gross and weird, then super loud fucking with a ton of emphasis on the genitals.

Anyone else feel this way? It kind of fucking sucks, I want to be a sexual person and I like sex and all but the kind of sex and porn I used to be into just feels so scummy and alien to me now.
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>>6542657
Start reading written erotica.
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>>6542657
Just picture what you'd like to see in your mind. Imagination is a good tool to trigger bodily reactions.
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>>6542761
Okay, any recommendations?
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>>6542657
lesbian porn in general is the most basic thing in the world, it's like once you've seen one you've seen them all
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>>6541418
>>6541538
What questions? I like trying to answer questions. I don't mind if they are brute, I can try to answer them if they're something that I can answer :)

>>6541381
My apartment I'm going to move into in a few months lets you hang stuff on the wall unlike in my dorm rn and I'm super excited!

I want to do something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09eEdbpb-nI

But maybe with a raspberry pi controlling it and I'll have to make a light shelf bc the apt doesn't have crown molding
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>>6542657
I like to either read erotica or look on pic sites like imagefap just like to get in the mood and then fantasize based on the story/picture when I'm actually masturbating.

Also some lesbian porn is good. You just have to look hard. Amateur type stuff is pretty good, and a few brands of professional stuff is pretty good. Abby Winters is one of the best. And Lesbea is pretty good even though its not as authentic.

For some reason I have better orgasms though when I'm fantasizing instead of watching porn (always been like that even since before HRT) so I only watch porn if I'm not in the mood and I'm just masturbating for "use it or lose it" reasons.
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>>6542657
Also I like to watch porn that focuses on oral. Like good porn where the person giving oral actually has her whole mouth over the other girl's clit, not the bs where she's sticking her tongue out and barely touching her or something. And I imagine that I'm the one giving oral.

Forward facesitting porn is also super hot

Sometimes I watch amateur transgirl-transgirl porn thats kinda similar, like I imagine giving oral. Not like deepthroating but just good oral porn.

Transgirl-cisgirl porn sucks though. Like I'm not dysphoric about topping, but the way its done is transgirl-cisgirl porn is just gross, idk. Like there's something weird about the dynamic, the oral sex is always terrible or nonexistent, and it feels super super targeted toward straight guys. I've literally only ever found one video of it that I really liked.

I also sometimes watch mtf-ftm porn or gay guy porn and they're both pretty good.
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>>6542927
I can confirm that the Raspberry Pi is absolutely marvelous, I honestly love mine. That would be a fun project to do, Anon.
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>>6542927
It isn't very hard to do if you use a standard available controllers that others have made. I was actually doing stuff like that about 15 to 20 years ago. I had to make some of my own controllers. Since then I have making complex artwork using LEDs for lighting. Hang-Ups over programming has kept me from making new controllers that I need.
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>tfw gf
>tfw we're moving in together soon
>tfw she says "I love you, sweetie"
>tfw when I can say "I love you too" and mean it
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>>6543209
yeah I love my rpi :)

I used to use it as an XBMC media center but i ended up getting an old computer that works better for a media center so I'm not using my rpi for anything right now.

>>6543628
The main problem I'm going to have is making it look pretty. Like I want make a light shelf for it going around the room like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZLcAF3ar0 so that you don't see the LEDs directly. But I'm like the opposite of handy and I'm going to have to find some kind of place where I can make and paint the light shelf and stuff.

I'm a CS student on my last year though so hopefully the programming will be the easiest part :)

i think it would be amazing to write something that translates music stuff (like maybe an equalizer or ) to the LEDs and changes the color and patterns based on the music. But I don't want to get carried away so I'm going to focus on just getting it working first.

I'm thinking of buying a standard controller thing like in the first video but I don't know if I want to spend money on it when I'm planning to replace it with a rpi controller anyway
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>>6544077
Many companies make lighting controllers that can run strings of LEDs for stage lighting management systems. I've seen him for sale in retail at places like super bright LEDs.

It is possible to buy strings of LEDs that have individually addressable LEDs. With one of those strings you could go in and change one LED at a time, or even shift a pattern along them.

I was a bit beyond all this and making my own LED strings and controller hardware.
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>>6544077
Get thee to a makerspace!

>>6544249
Neopixels! You need a microcontroller because of the timing constraints on the control stream but they have a refresh rate in the hundreds of KHz.
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Do epilators work on the face?
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>>6544328
They can, but they fuck up the pores and will prevent any laser treatments from working.
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>>6544341
>fucks up the pores
Does that apply to epilating anywhere else on the body as well?
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>>6544376
I'd assume so. I had heard it has to do with ripping the hair out deforming the pores. It's the same reasons subsequent epilator runs are easier.
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>>6544328
>>6544376
I wouldn't use it on your face because its really harsh and your skin on your face is more fragile than the skin on your body. But I think its fine to use it on your body. I've never heard of it preventing laser from working.

It does basically the same amount of "damage" as waxing, and I've never heard of waxing making laser not work.

Laser targets the follicles through your skin so I don't see how fucked up pores would affect that
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>>6544311
Is that the number of pixels you can update a second or the kilohertz of the bus you send the data to them over? If it is the later it is still a little slow. Still some interesting animations can be done with them. Update compression can be done to allow for a larger display. I need to catch up on what has happened in the past 5 years in the industry.
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>>6544597
I see. Is my best bet just shaving my face, then? It never seems very effective. Like it feels smooth but it looks all shitty and grayed up in a mirror.
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I feel like I look slightly draggy rn with all my makeup on
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>>6544877
Yeah shaving is the best way until laser :(

You can use makeup to cover the beard shadow though until you get laser. There are some tutorials out there. Basically you can use light colored blush under your foundation/concealer to offset the blueish color of the beard shadow.
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>>6544611
Hmm, sounds like bus speed is closer to the truth since I see mention of a 400 Hz refresh rate, but that's still fast enough for something sound reactive. There's a competitor that's faster but more expensive.

Take a look: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-neopixel-uberguide/
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>>6544877
Do a pass with the grain and then directly against the grain with a really close razor, it helps minimize the visuals.
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>was unable to shave my body for like 2 whole weeks
>finally get to today
The greatest feeling ever.
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>>6544924
Too much on the eyes, even though it looks cute desu
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>>6545393
I read through the documentation and most of their strength of LEDs and both types of integrated controllers. Unfortunately the more expensive one is the one that is easier to use with Raspberry Pi computers. The controller's I built for running my light sculptures would be capable of driving either style. They are able to do the consistent hard real-time output needed.
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>>6547294
Didn't expect that thread to be serious or have actual results to show for it.
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>Local lesbian dance event ending after this month
Boo. The cynic in me says someone got cold feet after Pulse.
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>>6551397
Go to it, recruit people interested to a Pink Pistols chapter for your city and host lesbian barbecues and shit?

Also I am still too excited after today, ended up adopting a snake and (s)he is way too cute and way sweet and I am very excited still.
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i love my gf
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Evening, /tlg/!
How are you ladies doing?
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>>6559037
That would feel nice, yeah. I miss that.
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>>6559037
Do want and very cute.
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>>6543650
Good for you anon! I am about to move in together with my gf soon too! :D

We are talking about getting a cat (Lesbian relationship status level 2!!!)
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>tfw always tell myself guy is just friendly because he's a nice guy
>nope he wants in my pants that's why
every
time
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>>6563148
Oh and, why I posted this here is cause I never have this issue with girls
and the chasers in /mtfg/ would throw a shitfit
but yeah it's like, idk girls are nice and friendly to me yet don't inevitably try to make a move on me and that's really nice
Maybe I'm just having bad experiences but it's really turning me off towards men
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>tfw I think my anxiety is being made worse by my Autism.
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>>6563148
That's what they're programmed for. Such is biology.
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>>6567289

do transbians care if their partner passes assuming their partner is maab/mtf? in every photo i've seen of two transwomen dating, i swear to god they are always both manly as fuck and makes me think, you just look like a couple of fags.
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>>6542657
kind of same for me. i'm only almost 3 months in and sometimes i can watch stuff i used to but i saw some porn awhile ago and it was 2 trans girls that kind of fucked like i do and i really liked it? and now that's all i can really watch and enjoy, because that doesn't seem so weird and foreign and designed for men idk
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>>6567526
my dumb ass didn't realize i was on pg 10 ignore me
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>>6567306
That depends. I'm actually more like bi with a strong preference for girls, and i think that some androgynous non-passing trans girls are cute and i would date them.

But only like a cute kind of androgynous. Like for a lot of the time it does kinda matter. But I think its also easier for trans people to see other trans people as the gender they identify as, so its not like a solid rule
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>cis lady
>tfw no trans girlfriend
I've only had sex with one guy and I didn't like it but I'm attracted to transwomen and like the thought of having sex with them, idk what is up with me.
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>>6568598
If by that you mean them penetrating you, it's not that likely to find one willing to do that. And you probably won't like it any more than you did with a guy. Nothing wrong about it, though, I guess. If not, why trans women specifically?
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>>6568598
You want a femmy guy to fuck you but there aren't many that aren't gay so you turn to trans lesbians who are the best of both worlds.
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>>6568616
Yeah but most of them wouldn't want to use their penis :(
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>>6568598
That's the sorta relationship i wish for
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>>6569158
AGP DETECTED!!!

>>6568641
>>6568598

fcking chaser
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>Come out at 17 and start taking HRT
>Friends all ditch me
>21, made new friends, stealth mode
>One friend finds out I'm trans because he came to hospital with me after an accident
>Tells everyone else
>They don't talk to me anymore

It's like poetry, it rhymes. I haven't really been involved in the online trans community since my first year of HRT, but this whole thing has reminded me that I can't pretend I'm not trans forever.
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>>6569249
That's quite sad.

I don't think it has to happen every time.

There are advantages to have a group of friends with slightly elevated "tumblr factor" even if stealth. Depends on where you live.
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>>6569431
I think I just have bad luck with friends, they never seem to stick around. Maybe they can tell I'm holding something back from them a lot of the time.

I usually meet people through vidya or tabletop games, and they tend to be more the right wing crowd than the tumblr types. I don't know where else to meet people.
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>>6569249
honesty best policy
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>>6569249
is it that hard to find people who don't mind trans people?
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>>6569654
I don't want to be known as a trans girl. It's why I went through this whole thing. I think I struggled enough that I deserve to just be a girl if I choose to not wear transgenderism on my sleeve.
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>>6569665
get new hobbies =]
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>>6569665
I thought trans girls are girls though
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>>6569674
Most people don't treat you the same, even if it's unconsciously.
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>>6569664
In theory, no. But some people seem to be okay with it until they're actually confronted with it.

>>6569670
I have so many hobbies though.

>>6569674
They are, we are. But I guess I mean that I don't want to be what society perceives as trans people. Being stealth is inherently selfish that way, but it's a choice everyone who can pass has to make.

Because if you are open with it, you're kind of a walking political statement. I don't want that. I just want to have a career, friends, a family. Live a normal life.
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>>6569249
How did he find out? Have you had a full ID change yet?
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>>6569719
I have, but it the hospital used my birth name anyway. It went like this.

>Sitting in emergency room bleeding profusely from hand, laughing with friend
>"IS THERE A MR MALE NAME HERE"
>Blood goes cold
>"Uh, yeah, that's me"
>Nurse stares at me
>"Don't play games, Miss. I'M LOOKING FOR MR MALE NAME"
>"Please don't shout that so loud"
>"WHY, ARE YOU REALLY MR MALE NAME?"
>"Yes, please, not so loud"
>"WELL IF YOU SAY SO MR MALE NAME, COME WITH ME"

Cue every doctor giving me looks like I walked in naked and giving me a wristband with my old name on it, as well nurses mumbling under their breath about me when they were slightly out of the room.

I came back out and my friend was dead silent as he drove me home. Then all my other friends deleted me from social media the next day.
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>>6569836
How the hell did they get your birth name? Isn't it struck from records when you get an ID change where you live?
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>>6569856
Nope, backwards as fuck here. My ID is changed, but I can't change my birth certificate without SRS, which I can't afford yet.

So they're entitled to use my birthname for "legal reasons".
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>>6569857
Oh, it was the same here until very recently. Which is why I didn't bother getting a name change before SRS... Now I've had SRS, and a month later, it's not a requirement anymore. Oh, well, it's done. So, in a few months, I should be retroactively assigned female at birth from a legal standpoint. No more being accidentally outed.
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>>6569878
I'm jealous. I lost my job around the same time that happened and now I'm blowing my savings on groceries and rent.
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i love my gf so much
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>>6569884
You'll bounce back... It took me more than twenty years between the start of my first transition and SRS...
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>>6563166
Just date women. Life is better.

Learn from the catwoman. >>6561832


Side note while is /lgbt/ constantly butt hurt whenever they find a transbian?
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>>6569955
>why?

because there is a consensus that transbians use their penis and want to fuck cis women like a real man.
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>>6570023
I don't have a penis...
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>>6570045
Im not talking about the one and only trip that has had srs, CFH.

There are transbians that would do it anyway.
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>some older cis lesbian drops a like on my okc
>i send her a message just for giggles
>she actually replies

How do I not fuck this up? I doubt she'll be into me anyway but I don't wanna come off as a creepy hon.
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>>6570023
... not really. Most les trans girls I know don't want to use their penis.

And even if they are ok with it, why judge them based on that? Why hate people because they are ok with part of their body? It doesn't change the fact that they present as female and identify as female.

And men don't have a monopoly on penetrative sex. Some lesbians or even straight women like to use strapons too. If a man likes to receive penetrative sex does that make him a woman?
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>>6570076
I'm not the only one. Lilly is into girls and had SRS done too.
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>>6570023
But I don't want to use my penis or fuck a cis woman like a man would. I hate topping and oral down there doesn't do anything for me. At best, I'll let someone play with it while desperately wishing I had a vagina. I'm honestly considering SRS because sex is so goddamn depressing with my penis getting in the way of everything.

Also the majority of trans attracted people want a trans girl that uses her penis so I don't see anything wrong with compromising until you get SRS.
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>>6570023
I have a penis. I don't plan to forever. I fuck my girlfriend with it now, because I can. Eventually I'll use a strap-on.

Considering almost all women like penetration of some kind. Saying because we use our penis makes us less of a woman, is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. That is like saying women who top are not women. Or that being dominant is not a trait women should have.

My girl takes me for a fucking ride, and is more than willing to rodeo my poor cock like she owns it. That being said it is so much more sensitive now we can't do stuff as intensely as before.

>>6570099
As for people saying oral doesn't do much.... To each their own but it is basically like having a giant clit, and having your girl go down on you? What isn't to love?
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>>6570082
Small talk, then ask for a low key date, like get a coffee somewhere, or an art exhibition then lunch.

That's pretty foolproof regardless of the person.
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>>6569857
>My ID is changed, but I can't change my birth certificate without SRS
I know that feel, fuck Illinois.
There was a bill to change this but then the 2016 legislative session ended so I have to wait until next year to see if it'll get passed or if i'm fucked for good.
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>>6570129
I'm pretty sure that in my state you have to have SRS to even change the gender on your driver's licence

Or at least some kind of surgery like orchi, but the wording is vague.

Thanks Georgia ;_;
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>>6570176
>I'm pretty sure that in my state you have to have SRS to even change the gender on your driver's licence
Yeah I think that's how a lot of states do it, including my own. It's like, you can change your photo and name but if you wanna change your gender that's too far buddy
>Or at least some kind of surgery like orchi, but the wording is vague.
Yeeeeeeep. Least they could do is cover it if they're gonna force me to get it.
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>>6570114
Well that's usually what I'd do with another trans woman but I'm way more nervous when it comes to a cis woman. Especially a lesbian cis woman. All the worries I usually have about passing and not being a tranny spaz are tripled.

I mean, I don't look awful but I know I can be clocked by someone who knows what to look for. A cis woman would probably clock me instantly because I don't fit in. And my voice isn't all there either so I get the feeling she'll just nope out once she hears my pathetic tranny falsetto.
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>>6570108
>To each their own but it is basically like having a giant clit, and having your girl go down on you? What isn't to love?

It sounds nice but it's hard to get over that mental barrier that tells you she's sucking your dick and that she probably compares sex with you to sex with a man somewhere inside. If she identifies as a lesbian then that anxiety is even worse for me.
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>>6570087
I think its seen like still a part of your male self. Women don't have penis' and even if they use a strap on it doesn't necessarily equal a transgirls penis. If for some reason word gets out that a cis lesbian uses a strap on they would think "well she just wants to be dominant". But when a transgirl uses her penis its more like "what the fuck what a disgusting rapist. I bet he wants to take pics of me in the bathroom" I think it would be less threatening to hear that a transgirl uses a strap on instead of their biological genitals but im not completely sure.

>>6570088
There are people who don't want SRS though. Isn't it like not possible to change your gender mark on your birth certificate without it?

>>6570099
well thats you. It sort of seems like transwomen are used as a sex object because of their penis though. Its mostly men and they are regarded as creepy because of how much shemale porn they watch. It sort of like they don't treat it as a relationship at that point.

>>6570108
Well based on the media you would hear how transwomen want to get surgery and everyone agreed thats how it was going to be like. Some people felt more relieved when they heard this. Like I wouldn't hear them saying "oh I don't want to get surgery, i love using it". Based on the media they usually get asked a lot so when are you getting the surgery?

You also hear a lot from tumblr that women can have penis' and that turns people off because those people are considered crazy by society. When you see a transwomen with a full grown beard, male muscle growth and hear "I will keep my penis and don't take hormones :)". You instantly think tumblr and how mental those people can be.
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>>6569836
That sounds horrible. I don't have any idea how I'd react to a hospital doing that to me. All your friends ditching you also sounds pretty shitty. All of your friends? There wasn't even a single one that wanted to talk about it?

So on my own news, I am presently trying to figure out a good way to find a gender therapist because I need to meet the requirements to get SRS covered by insurance here. I feel really awkward about it because I don't need the therapist for any other reason than to get that requirement done, but I know it can never be that easy.

I also have a pending surgery, a dental one in about 3 weeks. After 8 months of braces, I am finally going to get a tooth trapped in my gums exposed, have a bracket attached to it with a gold chain, and it will be attached to my wire and brought down.
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>>6570210
I guess I'm just gonna have to not care what other people think of me anon, kind of like I've had to with the rest of transition
>Isn't it like not possible to change your gender mark on your birth certificate without it?
Depends on the state you were born in. Pure luck if you're fucked for life or not.
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>>6570242
You can change your birth certificate in Canada by just getting a doctors note.

<----- Now F And proud! :D

>>6570210
On the note of dicks, anyone here have theirs hurt when they get an erection now? I am finding that when I masturbate it hurts as it gets close to erect, and when I touch the head especially.
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>>6570189
I absolutely relate to the inferiority complex sort of feeling when interacting with cis people, and I feel like a hypocrite saying it, but go anyway ? Like, it would sucks majorly if it goes the way you described, but there is a real chance it could be fine.

Also don't overestimate cis people ability to clock, they're pretty clueless if they have not been around real trans folks (in a way the man-in-a-dress stereotype is working in you favor, provided you're not one.)

And exercise your voice before going, helps to get it right for the first impression.
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>>6570271
G-god bless the USA....
;_____;
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10762789
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10762789
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>>6570286
Well I put down in the first paragraph that I'm trans so I'm hoping she knows what that entails. Still makes me really nervous tho.
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>>6570387
I polled
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>>6570088
WHAT?!?!?!!!
Story time..
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>>6570108
Then most cis women are stupid.
Call it whatever you want. But at the end of the day it is what it is.
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>>6570684
Lalalilly likes girls and got her SRS from Suporn, that's all. Not much of a story, really. Just a well-managed transition.
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>>6570707
Oh. I don't think i know that Lilly. Nvm.
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>>6570387
>mostly no gf

:(
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>>6570706
I have zero idea what your trying to say. Use your mouth words.
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>>6570387
I mean 4-6 meaning 4/10 is actually pretty decent. If 40 percent of transbians can get a gf I would say that just means that 40 % of trans people are:

Lucky, Attractive, Interesting, and Empathetic.

Peeps got to step up their game and get out of the house. Dysphoria or no.

I believe in you Les gen! Lets all find our partners! :D
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>>6570099
>I'll let someone play with it while desperately wishing I had a vagina.
I'm close to that. I really think it has dampened my enthusiasm for sex.

>>6570129
Maryland required SRS until last year. Now I can get my IDs updated. I just need to spend the $$$ on Iowa name change.

>>6570212
Be blatant and up front about why you are there at the shrink and therapist for your SRS letters. I also knew I was transgender on my own.

>>6570271
>I am finding that when I masturbate it hurts as it gets close to erect, and when I touch the head especially.
Use it more often. I found that helped me. If I don't masturbate at least twice a week, the skin on my D gets taunt and hurts when erect.
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Heyy guys I picked a new name
What's up? How's everyone doing tn
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>>6570901
Hey I'll say it. Girls are dumb. How else do you explain women that stay with a guy who always cheats on them. Or even worse the guy is a rapist an still the girl stays with him.
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hi
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>>6572495
meh guys are dumb too, just in different ways.
Ever since my sex drive changed I'm actually stunned at what my guy friends are willing to do just for tail.

>>6572508
heyyy ;)
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>>6569836
this is heartbreaking :(
>>6572516
sup
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>>6572520
nm, my friends are out partying and they want me to join but i'm not feeling it tn, would rather use the internet and make udon broth for tomorrow
what about u?
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>>6572495
For a lot of people it seems the bad they know is better than the possible unknown.
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Is my dream of becoming an astronaut a fantasy that will never be a reality, /tlg/?
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>>6576737
follow ur dreams
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Honest question:

How many of you have actually managed to date cis lesbians since you started transitioning?
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>>6577103

i really don't care if someone is cis or trans anyway, you're implying cis people are inherently better
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>>6577103
My girlfriend is cis.


See the straw poll.
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>>6576737
Diaper fetishists raus!

http://youtu.be/iab9YKocUcw
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>>6528343

>transbians

beta males so desperate they become women and pretend they're "lesbians" (i.e. heterosexual from the beginning) thinking they'll get more pussy this way. this is ridiculous
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>>6578784

have you ever stood back and thought about how dumb this mindset is?
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>>6578791

but it's true sadly
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>>6578812

Nobody thinks they're going to get lesbian puss with a dick anon
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>>6578816

>implying they keep their dick

yeah sure
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>tfw in love with your gf
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>>6572516
I'm sure they are, but I tend to be more critical of girls seeing as that I'm one, I'm kind of mad at it, i mean I'm all girls team for life and all, but the stupid girls are like.... Really stupid, and they make the girls team look bad. well they make me look bad.

>>6572600
but that's stupid. even then anything has to be better than rape to a girl. i mean seriously, i would rather die, not kidding, or exaggerating. i mean think about it, rapist s/o or literally anything else.
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so before I realized I'm trans and was just a guy I was gay, which should mean I'm straight now, right?

but since I've started actually thinking of myself as a woman I've been having some bi thoughts

what is this
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>>6579789
I think the special kind of "women stupidity" is more nurture over nature but yeah, I really dislike it too.

>>6580023
It's sexuality, you ain't gotta explain shit. Just go with the flow.
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>>6579789
I'm not saying it's not stupid, just my guess that people worry more about the unknown than their bad situation.
Took my friend and their mom long enough to break away from their abusive dad, he kept getting worse-they'd have been far safer leaving earlier, but they were too worried and hoped he'd not get worse.
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>>6576737
Its a hard dream for anyone but is possible with mars missions being thought up.
>>6580023
Sexuality is weird thats why its more of being the gender I guess.
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Hi I wanted to post images but lesgen seems like a bit of a nasty place

Im going to assume you people are nicer

Have a picture
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>>6580231
/cislesgen/ isn't nasty. It's just /r9k/ on perpetual PMS. Ok, that's nasty. Nevermind.
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>>6580231
Pictures are good.
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My ideal woman, she'd be like this…
+She'd have to be Caucasian. No other race could make me feel as close- not even Asian.
+Definitely untoned and shorter than me, with long hair.
+Color is irrelevant because she'd dye it anyway.
+Someone with good ideals and a moral backbone without being "old-fashioned." Someone who really likes to huggle so forth- who could sleep in a single sized bed comfortably with me. Preferably she'd like to wear stuff I pick out for her and she'd be just as willing to do any random little chore or appeasement that I already dedicate so much of my convenience to others for (and her included of course.)
+Big bonus points if she likes my creativity and RPGmaker game(s/coding skill)
+Someone who could act almost as my double, going anywhere I went, but who needed my help for things. Lifting something, interpreting more complex Japanese, explaining things clearly, mathematical calculations.
+ My first kid will be a girl named Terra or a boy named Ryukaze. Hopefully this wouldn't need discussion ( Though I might think harder about "Ryukaze.")
+ I could explain some other 100% necessary no-exception-for-anything details, but those are more "personal"…
+ One admitable detail for my last point is she'd need to like roleplaying, pretending, make-believe etc. because two things I like in private are flattery (and flattering) and "foreplay."
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Sooo I was trying to figure out if I would post about this. If any of you have ANY experience with something like this please let me know.

My girlfriend woke up in the hospital after going out for drinks with some folks from the hostel she was staying. No idea how she got there, and the hospital wouldn't provide details. She has zero idea if she was violated or not. She already got the rape kit done, but doesn't know if it was also done on intake to the hospital. (ie twice) And has tried reporting it to the police but got deferred a bunch and finally they didn't believe that it happened.

I am her partner and I am trying to be there for her, but we are long distance right now so there is only so much I can do. Right now she just doesn't want to talk about it etc. I am doing my best to give her space, but it is hard.

I really want to get justice for her, but the odds of that are growing slimmer by the hour. She doesn't have enough details for me to work with either. I also just want to help her in general but it doesn't really seem like the kind of thing that you can help.

It also makes me think about what if that had been me? Would I even get to wake up in the hospital if my rapist found a "surprise.".... The world is fucked. I hate everything.
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>>6587821
maybe too heavy for trans-les gen?
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>>6587821
Ouch, that's bad.


It might not be possible to do anything to "get justice", keep talking to her about other things though. I'm sure you know which way to support her better than us. (Keep in mind that possibly could be acting as normal)
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>>6587695
Disgusting.
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>>6589286
Agreed.

>>6587695
Women are not anime characters. Even as an anime character that has to be the most shallow character design I have heard of.
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>>6587821
>>6588002
No, just not many have any idea what to do. Be there and support her. Assure her that you love her and will be there for her. Depends on how she takes it, she may need some therapy down the road. A good loving relationship can substitute for therapy, but it takes much longer.

I've been there. I remember coming to in a limo outside my home in a limo with no idea what had happened the night before. I had a groggy drunk feeling. For somebody who drunk many under the table, that was unusual. I never really felt the effects of alcohol much, and often drank many under the table as they tried to keep up. My best guess is somebody drugged me with something like rophenol.
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Sup guys,
so I have decided to finally start shopping for some women's clothing.

Right now I have only one women's t-shirt that fits me. I checked the size, and it appears to say S/P Anyone know what that means?
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>>6591508
It means size small. The p is just french (petit).
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>>6596629
ily
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>>6596687
ily 2 bae
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>>6596629
Is this legit a trans woman?
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>>6596728
No info on that. So most probably cis.
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>>6539199
>I'm only moving to Portland
Do you speak Portlish?
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>>6596629
Oh-oh my. Very nice.
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>>6568598
>cis lady
>tfw no trans girlfriend
I'm a cis male but I have always been looking for a cis woman that shares my passion for dickgirls (which, as opposed to transwomen, love their dicks) – to no avail. You are the first woman who likes dickgirls. You are literally my female counterpart.

>>6568641
>Yeah but most of them wouldn't want to use their penis :(
That's why I use words "dickgirls" or "shemales". They are the opposite of transwomen. Shemales are everything that transwomen fear and detest. Shemales love their dicks and love sex and there is no better word to name that category of women.
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>>6600043
what the fuck are you on about you creep
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>>6600200
>creep
Don't worry, I'm not interested in you.
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>>6600200
Typical transsexual.
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>>6600043
>Shemales are everything that transwomen fear and detest.
More like "shemale" and "dickgirl" are crude slurs typically used to describe trans women in sex work. It's in bad taste to call anyone either slur unless you're on a porn set. And even then, it's still an antiquated word in (current year). Some trans women keep and use their penis. Some don't. These people aren't differentiated through different slurs. They're just individuals with different levels of dysphoria and different sexual preferences.

Man if you're interested in a group of people to the point where you actively hunt them down and try to get them in bed with you, take time to learn a thing or two about them so you don't end up with your foot in your mouth all the time.
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>>6600313
>More like "shemale" and "dickgirl" are crude slurs typically used to describe trans women in sex work.
Imagine if someone said that "gay" is a slur used to denigrate effeminate men, therefore we shouldn't call anyone "gay". Or if someone said that "Jew" is a slur used to denigrate disliked people, therefore we shouldn't call anyone "Jew". That's what you are doing right now, only with a different word. You are denying people shemale identity. You're just anti-shemale.

>Man if you're interested in a group of people to the point where you actively hunt them down
1. I don't actively hunt them down. I wait until one lands in my bed by accident. Same as you, right? How does that work for you?
2. Like I said, I'm not interested in transwomen – I'm interested in sexy people. Transwomen are anti-sexual. If transwomen could be ciswomen, they would be TERFs.
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I considered myself a straight trans girl for a while but now I'm in a casual relationship with a boyish cis girl and it's lovely. So hi, I guess
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>>6600043
>>6600412
Uhm ok, not the person you're responding to, but I am trans and I am fine with my cock. I'm non-op and ok with topping.

And "shemale" and "dickgirl" are extremely offensive and degrading slurs. "Shemale" was popularized by TERFs as an insult. "Dickgirl" is a fetish term that degrades trans people to sexual objects.

Apparently you've made up a classification in your head based on trans people who you deem as sex-positive. We all have different feelings about sex and out genitals, but we are still all trans. Some people have bigger struggles with their genitals, but that doesn't make them "anti-sexual". I guarantee you that if they could have sex without crippling dysphoria then they would.

So stop attacking trans women who have severe dysphoria over their genitals, and stop fetishizing trans women who don't. Its perfectly ok to be attracted to non-op trans women, even exclusively, but we are still trans women, not "shemale" or "dickgirl" sex things.
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>>6568598
>>6568641
Hold the bus there folks. People have varying levels of dysphoria. I am dysphoric about my penis but I still have PIV sex with my cis girlfriend. My dick has been shrinking though. I used to be a healthy 7" but now I don't even know what it is at.

Likely 5.5 or something. It also hurts to use it. Even to masturbate. I have been trying to exercise it regularly but its still atrophying. My genetics seem to naturally be on the female side. With taking only 50 mg of spiro my T is down to 0.4-0.55 (for those that don't know this kind of dose is so low that it would either be a starting dose or used for acne prevention and 0.5 is SUPER low for testosterone).

So my body is trying pretty hard to go fem! I just wish I had bigger boobs. Sadly not quite a full A cup yet. despite being on HRT for 9 months. My doctor thinks it is because I am so thin. She bumped my estrogen up to 5mg from 4 so hopefully that will help.


tl;dr Some transwomen still use their dicks, and lots of trans lesbians are still out looking for love! :D ... But I am taken haha ;)
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>>6569679
yeah this sucks so much. It really bothers me. I wish I could be stealth ... someday! :/

Also as a side note you seem pretty cool Ily

Maybe I will get a Trip someday.
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>>6602444
Agreed about the objectification!
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>>6602617
Awww...
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>>6602444
>"Shemale" and "dickgirl" are extremely offensive and degrading slurs. "Shemale" was popularized by TERFs as an insult. "Dickgirl" is a fetish term that degrades trans people to sexual objects.
This is exactly how the neutral word “Negro” was purged from English dictionary. Next, we’ll have to stop calling people “black”. After that, we’ll need to stop calling people “people”. I am liberal but I refuse to be an idiot. If I was black, I would call myself “Negro”.

Another great example is “social justice warrior”. It’s a slur, right? Well – only if you are an opponent of justice. Most people apparently are, but they can’t expect me to be one of them. I will continue calling good people “SJWs”.

Most people think that a Negro is something bad. I’m not one of them.
Most people think that an SJW is something bad. I’m not one of them.
Most transsexuals think that a shemale is something bad. I’m not one of you.

Anyone who takes offence for being called a “Jew” reveals himself as an anti-Semite.
Anyone who takes offence for being called effeminate reveals himself as misogynistic.
Anyone who takes offence for being called “shemale” reveals himself as someone who doesn’t like porn.

The fact that TERFs use the word “shemale” disparagingly speaks more about TERFs than about people they call “shemales”: it’s nothing more than a testimony to feminist sex negativity. Now transsexuals share that sex negativity with their sworn enemies. Good for you! Smart TERFs! But don’t mix me into it.
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>>6602444
>We all have different feelings about sex and out genitals, but we are still all trans.
No.
1. Transpeople are binary. The only reason you don’t have a vagina is that genital reassignment is not worth it. (Your dysphoria is mild and current reassignment techniques are crude.)
2. Transpeople aren’t autogynephilic or autoandrophilic. As a matter of fact, they are the opposite: autogynephobic and autoandrophobic. They are products of their phobias.
3. For the above reasons, in transpeople, sex is at best an afterthought. Your mantra: “sex is not gender”, “sex is degrading” and “I’m not sexual”. You might as well be Christian, Muslim. feminist, .

What do you call people who don’t fit these three points? The word “shemale” fills this semantic void ideally. The fact that transsexuals think it’s a slur only adds to its credence as a description of people who are the opposite of transsexuals

>inb4 banned for not regurgitating pseudo-liberal dogma
Rename /lgbt/ as /pol/ already.
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>>6603438
>What do you call people who don't fit this three points?
Transvestites. Now take your shitty "sex positive" toxic bullshit to femgen, it's where it belongs.
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>tfw you love your gf and she loves you
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>>6603539
1. I should go to /femgen/ because anon before me mentioned “sex positivity” and I responded to it??? Why me and not that anon? Why not you? How is /femgen/ more relevant to my interest in ciswomen who like dickgirls than /tlg/? Do you even think?

>Sex positivity is toxic.
2. Mhm, okay.
3. Transsexuals in their full glory.
4. I think I’m beginning to understand what moot had on mind when he said “mods are people like you”. He obviously meant you.

>Transvestites.
5. It’s like calling men who have sex with transwomen “gay”.
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>>6603539
6. Transvestites are men who act like women. You’re either dumb or troll. Or mod. Or mod’s butt licker.
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>>6603734
Well, this is a thread for trans women. Noone here wants to be called male, even with a "she" slapped before it. So, yeah, males who want to have sex with "shemales" are gay, since according to your retarded defense of that insulting piece of slang, "shemales" are so obviously cis male transvestites. And you won't find any here anyway, fucking wrong thread. Once again, take that crap to femgen, that's where your "shemales" are.
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>>6603769
>Well, this is a thread for trans women. Noone here wants to be called male
A valid point at last. Still, not every ciswoman who comes here might now about it. Or a more specific thread might not exist. I’m looking for women who share my love of dickgirls. I don’t think we can have a separate general for that.
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>>6603807
Plenty of threads like that on /d/, that's where fetish talk belongs, not here.
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>>6603818
1. I’ve been banned from /d/ many times for doing exactly what you want me to do. Anything other than posting porn pictures is “shitposting” according to them. You continue giving me bad advice.
2. /d/ is strictly for Japanese porn. How are shemales Japanese?
3. Sexuality is not fetish. You continue your malicious semantic distortions.
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>>6603853
So even /d/ knows you're just trolling for sex on 4chan of all places and has the sense to give you the boot.
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>>6603818
4. Not a single ciswoman comes to /d/. I have proven it many times.
>inb4 Elzi
5. Advice from you is like advice from a Brexit voter on how to improve the EU.
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>>6603853
You're fetishizing dicks. This the worst thread possible to do that shit short of cislesgen...
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>>6603769
>Noone here wants to be called male, even with a "she" slapped before it.
Why is "female" okay then?
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>>6603876
1. Is this an admission that transsexuals are dick haters?
2. Interest in sex organs is not a fetish. It’s normal sexuality.
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>>6603876
3. The ciswoman who triggered my post does exactly that: she wants a “transwoman” who loves her dick. (I call that “shemale” or “dickgirl”.)
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>>6603756
Transvestites are men who DRESS like women (or women who dress like men); that's what the "vest" in the word means, it comes from the Latin 'vestio', "I dress". It's literally just a fancier word for "crossdresser".
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>>6603876
4. Why would anyone not interested in dicks want a transwoman instead of a ciswoman? Why would any such person come to this thread?
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>>6603897
>Trans *lesbian* general
>Liking dicks
Well, you can't possibly be that retarded since you're not typing monosyllables so you're obviously trolling.
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whats going on here
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>>6603944
What about those of us that are trans and like girls (cis or trans), but like dicks on ourselves and/or our partners? I guess it depends on your specific definition of lesbian?
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>>6603954
Chasers trolling. The usual...
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>>6603954
Some anon troll is being a troll and going on and on about dicks.
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>>6603928
>from the Latin 'vestio', "I dress"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonymy
Feminine dressing is part of feminine habit.

>It's literally just a fancier word for "crossdresser".
Exactly! Telling me that I want crossdressers is like telling lovers of transwomen to have sex with men.
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>>6603944
One answer: >>6603940
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>>6603989
>Chasers
In your dreams.
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>>6604021
I don't have a dick anyway. Your fetishizing crap is just obnoxious as fuck.
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>>6603994
>going on and on
It’s called “discussion”.
I know it’s an unnatural concept to you.
4chan only tolerates circlejerking.
Everything that’s not circlejerking is trolling.
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>>6603940
Cis lesbian lurker here. I like this general better than cis lesbian general, people are friendlier here. I don't really care if my partner is cis or trans, just as long as we love each other and get along well. I'm not interested in or attracted to dicks, but I'm not repulsed by them either. Doing kinky shit instead of sex is fine with me, as long as my partner is also happy.
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>>6604068
That’s nice.
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>>6604044
You wouldn't know a discussion
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>>6603928
Unintentionally, you confirm my point that shemales aren’t transvestites.

Shemales don’t limit their transformation to cosmetic measures (dressing, makeup, behaviour). Their transformation is total. It includes biology.

Another difference is that transvestites imitate women. Shemales don’t. Shemales are fusion of genders. This also differentiates them from transsexuals.

Again, if you can think of a better word to describe this type of people, I am open to suggestions. But I don’t think transsexuals really need another word because, whichever word we’ll use, transsexuals are going to stay antagonistic to the very concept. Because of this, even if we find a “respectable” word, it will soon become a slur, like it happened with words “retard” and “autist”.
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>>6604146
At this point, it's not the wrong thread, it's not even the wrong board, it's just the wrong site altogether. Go to tumblr.
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>>6604171
>tripfags telling anons to go to Tumblr
Top kek.
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>>6542761
Not same anon, but before I figured out I was Trans I thought I was the most pathetic little white boy ever writing this stuff secretly from a female POV. it always confused the fuck out of me and since I am phobic of LGBT anything I never like put the pieces together.


I still have what is called my "fuck it dude I used to sell drugs and do credit card fraud" funds in the bank. Secretly, my amazon catalog of lesbian erotica STILL SELLS 2 years later.

Amazon doesn't pay as much anymore. Used to be 2 dollars a sale, now it's 0.34

>>6542882
Bullshit. Go on /gif/
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>>6603521
Ok, your first point is mostly valid. Although nobody is completely binary. your 2nd point may be kinda valid depending on what you mean. If you mean trans women are autoandrophobic then I guess that's valid enough.

But how the fuck does the 3rd point follow from the first 2? I never said sex is degrading or that im not sexual. And yeah sex is an afterthought to identity for us, just like it is for every other human being.

Being a sexual object is what is degrading, not sex itself. We are human beings, and sex is an emotional and physical connection between two (or more) people. What's degrading is to be thought of as a thing that is defined by sex, not as a person. To have the person and emotional aspect stripped away and be seen as a sexual object. For example, "dickgirl" is a definition of a person based on their genitals. Its degrading in the same way as calling as a cis girl a "bigtits-girl" or a "flatchest-girl" or fetishizing east asian women because of their race/presumed cultural aspects.

I love sex, but I'm a person who loves sex and who people share sex with. I'm not a walking cock that people do sex to.

Also let me be more clear, "shemale" is a term that was COINED to mean trans woman by TERFs. Before that, the word existed but it referred to a masculine woman. TERFs where the ones who made the word mean trans women and they did it as an insult to mean "woman-man thing".
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>tfw slept out finally.
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>>6612771
>All the cute images
D'awww
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Hello translesgen, what you gals up to? anything interesting happen to any of you lately?
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>>6616563
Hey S, nice to see you back.
Just been building a fence here and selling off pretty much all of my old stuff. What about you?
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>>6616563
Desperately afraid of having to live with parents (who i'm in the closet to) for 2 weeks when I'm between apartments.

The longest I've lived with them since I started college is like 3 days.

Also i think I'm going to get another piercing when I get back from my parents house. Idk what I should get though. I'm thinking just a 2nd set of lobe piercings but that's kinda boring.
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>>6616801
Hello. Im bored waiting for this job to come threw.
Why you selling everything?
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>>6618944
I've got a frankly overwhelming amount of stuff that has been boxed up for years and I forgot about or in storage for years that I simply don't use enough or won't use. Some boxes of LEGO, k'nex, some photo gear and some other odds and ends. Nothing I'm using often enough to justify keeping, and nothing I'm really going to continue using, so I may as well sell it on to other younger people who will enjoy the toys and such.
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Whenever I go to queer events that are meant to be trans friendly, I seem to get sort of socially ostracized, particularly the envies

am I just that uggo and scary manly looking?
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>>6619685
You pass and are really pretty imo. Maybe they're just intimidated or jealous. Idk, I kinda feel the same way at lgbt events even though I def don't pass at all. Like I feel like an outsider. But I think that's because I'm in the closet and have to go in boymode and don't pass :(

Also though just btw your left eyebrow is tweezed farther out than your right eyebrow. I actually accidentally did the same thing last time I tweezed so thats probably the only reason I noticed it :)
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>>6619685
They might not know you are trans and think you are a fag hag
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Do you ever pretend to be cis on the internet?
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>>6620020
I used to, long ago...
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>>6620020
I do so to a degree, it's easier to just not say anything and let people assume. That way if they do discover it for some reason, I wasn't hiding anything. Just letting them assume the reasonable assumption.
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>>6620020
I pretend to be cis irl.
if nobody asks, I aint telling.
same with online
played cs 'as a cisgirl' for over a year.
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>>6620255
i thought you were straight?
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>>6620427
I am. I still post in tlg sometimes, I find the girls here really pleasant to talk to. this general is friendlier on average.
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>>6620020
I don't have to, I was born that way. :-)
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>>6620554
hi S
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>>6620651
hello. :)
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>>6620020
I pretend to be a cis male on the internet, because my voice doesn't sound female.
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>tfw too ugly for gf so I let men fuck me even though I hate it so I don't have to be alone all the time
Truly suffering.
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>>6628653
im ugly and I have a gf you can do it
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>>6624572
>I pretend to be a cis male on the internet
You aren't pretending. :p
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So, /tlg/, what do you all do for clothes?
I've been accumulating a wishlist of stuff: shirts, skirts, shoes, stockings, earrings, swimwear, &c.
However, short of wrap skirts and shirts and belts, most stuff simply doesn't seem to fit me. If it fits me in one way it's too big or small in another way, and shoes in my size... well, of all I want, none are in my size it seems, but one EU size lower is a go.
What the hell do I do to find clothes, or am i doomed to loose fit wrap items and looking heavily like a trustafarian?
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>>6632800
I have a bit of trouble with sleeves since I have a deep chest and long arms, but other than that, everything fits and I don't have trouble finding stuff I like since my sizes are in the normal range for women, including for shoes. So, can't really help. Can you afford bespoke stuff?
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>>6632822
I can't afford bespoke stuff, but depending on the material I can probably make stuff. It'd just be nice to be able to get stuff off the shelf instead of custom everything.
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>>6632800
Keep trying stuff (like, physically), i'm sure you'll find out what works for you.

Also layering. Some stuff look bad on me if alone (cause shoulders, or whatever), but with a plaid shirt/zipped hoodie/... it's fine.

What exactly makes it not fit ?

Also here is cute pic.
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>>6635524
I guess just some funky torso dimensions. If it fits my shoulders, it's usually too long in the sleeves and body. If it fits my waist it's too loose in the chest. If it's the right length for my torso every part of it is too tight.
Short of intentionally loose t shirts and intentionally loose skirts, it's hard finding something in my size. I guess I just fall into enough odd ranges to have things be really hard.
Hell, even my wrap skirts (one size fits all) are loose if I tie them properly, I have to change the tie to snug them up enough. It's just... bleh.
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>>6546502
now throw your sheets in the dryer, remake your bed and cuddle up in it. it's so soft and nice.
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>>6636943
I've taken in a couple tops. I fit for the shoulders and upper chest, then start taking in the rest. My biggest issue is most tops and dresses expect a much larger bust than I have. In the store I can try them on, and see if the excess cloth can be removed.
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>>6637860
Ah thanks, that is a good plan, I could take in stuff hopefully easily enough.
Probably far easier than gaining enough of a bust to fill out a lot of it and avoid taking all of it in.
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>>6637900
The side darts for the bust can be an issue. Some it is cut, and hard to modify. Others it is only folded over and sewn.
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>>6637932
Got it, thanks. I'll keep my eye out for that detail then.
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>>6637900
If not having enough of a bust is an issue, padded push-up bras help. A lot. And good ones these days look pretty natural under clothes. Or you could use normal bras and use water-filled condoms as fake breasts. I only ever had two... accidents with those. Pic related...
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>>6638173
Huh, thanks.
I guess if it's a continued issue I'll just have to save up and get yet another surgery, but I will snag a few push-up bras next time i'm at the store and see if they help, thanks.
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oh look /tlg/ is still alive
so am I apparently
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how come 4/5 transbians are degenerates or gross ass niggas that wont take hormones but think putting on make up and a wig is enough?

Like most transbians I've met are the ugliest and cringiest motherfuckers out there
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>>6641535
I've been on HRT for 32 months now, plus five years when I was young, I had SRS and I'm quite beautiful for someone my age. Let me hazard a guess, you've only ever met five "transbians" and four of them were trenders or cis transvestites... Careful with gendering the latter female, though, a few of them violently take offense if you do.
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>>6641535
Nice statistics, there might still be a bit off your ass to clean off though.
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>>6632800
>>6635524
>>6636943
I have the same problem :(

Mostly with my shoulders to chest/stomach ratio. If something fits my shoulders then its too loose on my chest and stomach.

I had the same problem for guy clothes too. Like It was impossible to find a suit that fit me because my chest and stomach are small but my shoulders are really wide :(
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>>6641836
>nd I'm quite beautiful for someone my age
i didn't even read the thread or know what that anon wrote but please stop with this. You aren't ugly but it's very annoying to hear someone say "i'm pretty and passing and all that blablabla"
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>>6643217
Speaking of which, it makes me wonder if there is a good way to modify a suit or tuxedo to make it distinctly feminine and wearable.
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>>6644062
Mostly follow the body's curves.
More fancy details.
Also use typically feminine colors, cloth, buttons, etc..
Beyond that I'm not really sure.
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>>6587620
So good!
>>6643272
Please just shut the fuck up and go home Hon... Like this whole fucking board is filled with trans people shitting on themselves and >>6641836 is actually happy with themselves and you want them to be modest so you don't have to feel bad about the way you look? Its like your jelous someone else has self confidence. You're embodying the toxicity that community is drunk on. Be happy for your sisters or fuck off.
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>>6641535
Hey there, transbian reporting in. Happily in a relationship with my girlfriend for almost 2 years now and moving in together/getting a cat soon. (Lesbian relationship Level 2 lol)

Currently just under 10 months of HRT with plans for SRS down the road. People are always hating on transbians and it honestly just comes off as being butt hurt. Out of all transbians I have met in person none of them are single. (I know 4 counting me) 2 of them have wives and are super happy with them, and the other two are in healthy long term relationships. They are also all cute ... go figure?! :P

As for the straight and bi transwomen I know (which are the majority btw 12+) ... unfortunately almost all of them are single or dating someone for only a few weeks at a time.

What I am getting at is the ideals people have about lesbian transwomen on this board are just wack. End of story.


>>6641836
You look like female benedict cumberbatch. (mostly the eyes)

>>6602729
ily shout out for being cute, also >>6602617
was me <3

Enjoy this sans makeup/sloppy me!
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>>6644818
ZZ some day I will remember to resize things, it's late and I am going camping tomorrow so w.e
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>>6644818
>ily shout out for being cute
>Enjoy this sans makeup/sloppy me!
no u r qt
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>>6644818
hit the nail on the head. it's pure, organic jealousy through a filter of trutrans. TERFs are guilty of the same thing.

The best is when TERFs are like "You're all disgusting men in dresses no one would ever want you"
>I have a girlfriend of 2 years
"reeeee they're not a real lesbian they must be bisexual or something"
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>>6647157
i don't understand your post. everything you seem to be disagreeing with is 100% true.
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>>6644818
really? So you use as a parameter of happiness whether someone is in a long term relationship or not. Really? You are a fucking stupid ugly autogynephile. What women would go with a tranny? Maybe transbians are in long term relationships because they can find repulsive women that nobody else wants
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>>6647201
My point is it's just like trutrans. It's "No true scotsman"
>Maybe you have a "lesbian" girlfriend, but no TRUE lesbian would date a transwoman

Only there's also the added caveat that no one except TERFs cares who is and isn't a "real lesbian".
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#311
new thread soon? I don't have anything good for the OP currently or I'd do so.
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new thread

>>6647508
>>6647508
>>6647508
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