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/mtfg/ - haters edition

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Who do you hate, /mtfg/?

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>>6478404
idk i dont really hate anyone honestly
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>>6478404
nobody
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>>6478404
Because you're all bipolar histrionics.
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>>6478404
>Who do you hate, /mtfg/?
myself, obviously
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>>6478404
Myself
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>>6478404
Myself but mostly my body.
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>>6478404
Myself
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>>6478404
>Who do you hate, /mtfg/?
Myself, my ugly face and hairy body. The only good picture I've ever taken is the one where you can't see my face.
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>tfw you watch romantic amvs all day in a futile attempt to get your girlhood back
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sometimes i think about the people i've loved - all two of them - and see how coincidental our meetings were.

the first time, i asked for advice on lgbt, not on mtfg but on the board itself, and she answered me and helped me out and then said she was suicidal and i wanted to be her friend. she would have died that night, and how it ended doesn't bother me any more.

the second time, someone came into a discord server i was in and saw my name and avatar and then saw me typing and decided she liked me and wanted to be my friend. she usually never uses lgbt and her coming into that server was pure happenstance. i flirted with her awkwardly like i always do, and i thought she wasn't that into me, and someone said to the both of us it was obvious that she didn't like me as much as i liked her and she disagreed herself into a relationship with me.

i wonder how many people i could have loved who pass me by the narrowest margins every day.
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>>6478428
>get your girlhood back
what did she mean by this?
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>>6478404
Cwc passes better than me


>>6478413
Ad I said, I'll be offing my self mid August
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>>6478434
I meant teenage years as a girl, but I now realize that that was probably the wrong word

>>6478432
I am sorry youre in this situation :c
I am sure you will make it though
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>>6478436
oic
>tfw you missed most of your teenage years and are terrible at being a girl
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>>6478408
What about feminists, nazis, (sand-)niggers, lesbians? You have to hate someone?!
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Can we please discuss about how bad we feel about having darkskin butty places benis, and inbetween space?
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>>6478439
well i deff don't hate poeple like that... i would only hate like specific people i know... if they were really cruel or mean to me. sometimes i hate my sister idk, she can be really cruel to me ;~~;

but other times she is nice so idk
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Me
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>>6478435
Why do you put me through this.....
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>>6478445
Soon

>>6478447
I'm sorry but I just wanted to let you know in case you do go back to TN and realize that I'm not of this world anymore.
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>>6478428
>almost surely smarter and better educated than you
Not even going to bother with this one

>Not everyone is a hedonist
I can tell you for sure that anyone who uses the term 'hedonist' to describe someone who is willing to have sex in the early stages of a relationship is legitimately a moron

>nice source
I probably don't need to go over this for you because you're obviously so smart and well educated. But I will anyways because it's fun.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/more-sexual-partners-unhappy-marriage_n_5698440.html
This is the study you're talking about, no?

First of all, that study was not published by an academic journal and it was not peer-reviewed either

Now let's get into some of the other problems with that study. It was based on happiness in marriages, so trying to apply it's findings within the context of long term relationships that are not marriages would be an inaccurate representation of the data.

Let's gather some quotes from the rest of the article...
(Cont.)
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>>6478454
this like some kind of autism eruption
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>>6478428
>>6478454
Rhoades and Stanley hypothesize in the report that “more experience may increase one’s awareness of alternative partners.” In other words, people who have a number of prior relationships may become dissatisfied more easily.
But isn’t that another way to say they might be more aware of a bad relationship? Isn’t that a good thing?

Indeed, while the data presented in The Marriage Project’s 418-person study is legitimate, experts say that the conclusions drawn from it — especially those which cast judgement on one’s sexual history and incite sentiments of slut-shaming — may not be entirely accurate.

“For example, people who tend to avoid commitment in general may have more sexual partners and be less happy when they settle down. It’s not the fact that they have more sexual partners that leads them to be less happy, it’s the fact that they don’t really like commitment. I would be very surprised if having multiple sexual partners before marriage, independent of any other factor, has a direct causal influence.”

Beyond that, Lehmiller says there may be flaws in the way data was analyzed — the way in which good marriages were separated from bad marriages was “rather odd” he says. “Even the authors admit that they were ‘arbitrary’ in their report. They defined ‘higher quality marriages’ as those in which individuals scored in the top 40 percent ... Why the top 40 percent?”
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>>6478452
but didnt your church say it was fine? I am so confused

>>6478456
I think the anon is new and doesnt know who I am (or hasnt read my earlier posts today), but it is pretty entertaining regardless
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>>6478461
I'm not new but you're right I don't know who you are. I guess you were just joking the whole time? Sorry I didn't quite pick up on your subtle sense of humor.
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>>6478458
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>>6478461
Her family doesn't have to agree with the church you retard
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>>6478453
You're not sorry though.....you do this to me all the fucking time, i need help sometimes too, i need less stress
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>>>/soc/23992439

Kek
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>>6478476
I am
No one understands that I'm hopeless.
Yeah my death will hurt a lot of people and people will call it selfish but I think living in constant pain is more selfish.
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>>6478471
no I wasnt joking about (most of) the points I made

just the last two posts (in the other thread) were satire
two things you have to know about me rn:
I am literally crazy (always)
I am really high on pseudobenzos right now, I wont remember this conversation in a few hours anyway.
I also will probably not put actual effort in discussing things on 4chan, has nothing to do with you though, I am impressed you called my bluff on the study (I havent read it, cause I dont really care enough, just know it exitsts), youre cool in my book


>>6478474
it still kills the argument, if her parents are proper churchgoers. theyd at least need a different reasoning.

>>6478480
wow, I am sorry, thats really cruel ;~;
do you think your churchperson could talk to your mum? maybe that could help

>>6478482
>No one understands that I'm hopeless.
youre hopelessly narcissistic angie.
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>>6478486
Except that I'm not.
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>>6478404
>Not hating yourself

Are you even trans?
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>>6478416
I fucking love (you) tho.
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>>6478486
You can't even prove I'm narssistic
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>>6478404
Brussels sprouts. Oh, that's a what, not a who... No one, I guess... Can I pretend hating fritzes and rosbifs like on /int/?
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>>6478506
:3
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POST TRIP CRUSHES NOW
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>>6478492
>>6478506
I dont care enough about you to prove anything.
I dont hold this against you either though, my point is, that unless I see your corpse, I wont believe youre dead/trying to kill yourself. you have pulled way too much shit over the last few years to ever make me take you seriously again.

>>6478505
OMG <3
I am semi-back now, I might leave again when I am back to normal tho
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>>6478515
pookie
chara

idk many others
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>>6478515
Ufufu

everyone else is inferior
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>>6478517
Wait, you're high again already? It's like early afternoon
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>>6478508
>Not liking stinky food
Are you really french?
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>>6478514
What?

>>6478517
Then you need to stop using words incorrectly. It makes you look retarded
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>>6478517
Even if you leave, il'l liebe u
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>>6478515
>be straight
>start talking to Kit
>be gay now

Fuck.
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>>6478522
I dont take drugs early, I am still completely out of it from yesterday.
I think it will probably take until 10pm or midnight for me to sober again

>>6478526
I didnt use a word wrongly.
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>>6478526
<3 u
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>>6478530
Yes you did.
I'm not narssistic at all and yet you claimed I am
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>>6478515
I'd post but at this point what I feel is so much more than a little crush... It's good to know I can still feel like this. I had serious doubts about it...
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I'm 18 pre-everything. I've read that hips don't fuse til 19-25. Any chance I could get wide hips?
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>>6478534
>I'm not narssistic at all
you are. you probably even know about this

>>6478528
<3 <3 <3
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>>6478536
I wouldn't count on it
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>>6478533
Well stop that now
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>>6478536
>Any chance I could get wide hips?

no.
you will get slightly better hips than youd get if you started in a few years, but it wont be anywhere near cis probably.
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>>6478530
Just so you know... Saying I understand you would be a lie, we're too radically different for that. But there's still something about you that makes it hard to not care. If you vanish for more than a few days, don't be surprised if I send a few words your way outside of here, even if I usually only reply to messages and don't initiate conversations.
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>>6478539
:( Ok
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>>6478536
Probably a bit wider, not much. I had the opposite, light HRT from 15 to 21 then late T effects. My hips are wider and less angular than typical T poisoned ones, but they look wonky, not cis.
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>>6478537
Yet you haven't proved it.
You're just as dumb as most of the users here
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>>6478538
>>6478540
Wait what?
I heard there was still a chance to get better hips at this age
oh no I'm fucked ;~;
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>>6478515
No crushes just one love
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>>6478536
Lol. Not a chance in the world.

If it's any consolation, you'd still be miserable even if you did get hips.

Hips, periods, children, menopause, breast cancer....yeah there's always something to be jealous about cis-women.
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>>6478482
Sell your stuff and come over and we'll set this town ablaze cause fuck it why not, right?
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>>6478543
You should just forget that I ever existed
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>tfw no friend with 10" cock to play smash with
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>>6478562
I won't. Ever.
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>>6478542
thank you <3
even when gone I check my messages regularly, so id definitely see it
I am pretty sure you would understand me if Id let you close enough, but it would probably be bad for both of us if that happened.

>>6478550
I dont need to prove an opinion you fucking idiot.
Im going to enjoy rubbing this into your face all september long

>>6478551
I am sorry anon.. youre 4-5 years late.

>>6478564
hey bby <3
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>>6478562
>>6478566
Whatever this is, it's kinda cute
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>>6478561
I have nothing that I own besides a phone
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>>6478569
ey love
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>>6478566
Sigh

>>6478569
Implying

>>6478570
No
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>>6478569
>your 4-5 years late.
and the worst thing is I fucking knew I was trans and knew about transition but I kept thinking "am I really trans or is it a phase" until I was like 15

fuck it, no point dwelling, I couldn't of gotten hormones either way
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>>6478453
Not soon enough.
>>6478536
17 and nothing here. Gl, nothing changes senpai.
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Hahahahahhahaahahha is this nigger serious.
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I'm around 20ish pounds overweight. If I lose all the weight before/during the early stages of hrt to the point that I'm borderline underweight, can I gain some of it back in a female pattern?
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>>6478573
Whatever, if you get here i give you a fine sending off if that's what you want, and we could also maybe talk and cuddle
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Maybe this isnt the wrong thread for this but
Ive just been drunkenly laying in the shower for an hour and i dont want to continue like this anymore
Ive been repressing my dysphoria for so long and now my body is ravaged by testosterone ;_;

What do girls?
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>>6478576
how's you?

>>6478579
Iktf, but I started at 23.
better late than never I guess...

>>6478583
yes. personally, Id assume it wont work right away though. (e.g. Id assume that youd have to stay at near underweight for quite a while for regaining to be safe enough, but really, I am just guessing, ask faye)
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>>6478588
see>>6478445
and pick one
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Is it possible to be absolutely BTFO on only 100mg of spiro a day?

My sex drive is completely dead, I haven't had an actual erection in weeks, and I need to pee all the time.
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I'm 5'25'' and im a bit overweight, what should be my ideal weight to start HRT? or does it not matter?
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>>6478570
I care for my friends.

>>6478577
You'll give before I do.
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>>6478587
I do t think I'll ever make it
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>>6478588
You should kill yourself
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>>6478593
>better late than never I guess...
I guess so but I'm never going to forgiving myself for not starting earlier
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>>6478593
4th day no h, withdrawal is lessening. trying to kick the habit after 4 times (bit more motivated to actually stop).

other than that, psychologists don't know what they're doing, getting medication adjusted; the usual

whatchu been up to (quite a lot last i heard!!)
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>>6478598
Yup. That's what happened to me.
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>>6478588
Take the hormones, i haven't found that they do as much as i was hoping for, it's not gonna make things any worse

See a therapist and get stuff rolling
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>>6478600
No

>>6478604
This
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>>6478588
transition and become a cute girl
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>>6478618
Too bad most here won't
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>>6478602
I mean, i don't really think I'm gonna live super long either, we're trans. I don't really wanna live super long, but i wanna enjoy it while it's worth having. That's why i started transisition really, to waste less time with the anxiety and regret and jealousy. It's kinda working, honestly

But isn't that all the more reason to have fun, and i definitely have fun with you, that was an awesome Christmas and i wanna do stuff like that again
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>>6478618
Korra fell for that meme and look what happened to him. Disaster.
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>>6478630
This so much
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>>6478605
wow, thats really malicious :~:
sowwy bby

>>6478607
welcome to trannyhood

>>6478610
I hope you will make it bby <3
I believe in you :3

I have been clean for 8 days, but something happened in my personal life and I went back last night v_v
I really need to quit though, but its hard

>quite a lot last i heard!!
w-what did I do...
I am still waiting for ffs and stuff, I left discord, I think permanently, other than that, not a lot has happened :0
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>>6478639
Is there ways to minimalize the regrets or is just there forever
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>>6478610
>tfw you realize h isn't hormones

Oh fuck, wow, good job! Keep it up okay!
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>>6478643
its just there 4ever
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>>6478404
>Who do you hate, /mtfg/?
It's a few people from here
Maybe
Lmao

Nah I only hate irl people
Still can't say though
>>6478605
>she was mad at them for accepting me as trans and was trying to get them to kick me out instea
Lmao
That's mad petty
>>6478599
Doesn't really matter that much, there is no "ideal starting weight" imo anyway

>>6478529
>>6478515
What does kit look like, holy shit
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>>6478657
back to cutting then
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>>6478599
Whatever the fuck it is now, since test will fuck you up.
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>>6478654
:^) ty
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>>6478664
I am sorry, if I could help you I would v_v
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>>6478672
It'll be fine
nothing a few hours/days of feeling shit, angry at myself, depressed and maybe some self-harm won't fix
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>>6478665
will losing weight make a better transition though?
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if u cant pass as a girl pre-hrt, you will not pass as a girl post-hrt

or you'll need ffs
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>>6478669
You have to make it a month

If you make it a month I'll send you something, ok?

>>6478684
No, gaining weight will though
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>>6478679
would be smarter to use hot wax, hurts a lot but doesnt leave scars, was my go to when I was a teenager

>>6478685
passing is a meme anyway
only a select few actually pass
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>>6478685
This and even ffs doesn't work on everyone
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>>6478686
thanks but do you know why?
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>>6478627
Well I'm sick of life so take it as you will
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>>6478684
I dunno ask someone who doesn't look like a man.

>>6478685
>>6478688
>>6478690
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>>6478690
yes

being a tranny, you should focus on reducing your dysphoria as much as possible. if hormones make you feel happier and more content with yourself, go for it

its more a matter of gaining confidence in yourself, and accepting the way you are now. lower your dysphoria as much as you need to via surgery or w/e
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>>6478685
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>>6478698
hormones will make the fat go to the right places, boobs, face ect
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>>6478703
Steve bucemi passes better than me
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>>6478688
I don't have wax, besides in the times I've cut myself I've never used anything sharp enough to actually cause a permanent scar and I wear long clothing all the time so no one will notice any way
That is, if I do reach that point
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>>6478698
fat redistribution. if you lose weight before hrt (which is easier cos test) and then put it on after about 2 months of hrt it'll go top ur hips and butt and boobs and round out your face.
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>>6478698
Your body has to make boobs lol
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>>6478705
I got surgery and sill don't pass for female
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>>6478703
>implying I dont look like a man

>>6478714
pretty sure empty fatcells arent dismantled that fast. your body will just refill them probably.
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>hair looks really good afterwards and now it looks weird
>crimson chin
>jewnose xtreme
fug
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>>6478711
Iktf
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>>6478685
I've had some people think I was a girl pre-hrt
does that count?
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>>6478426
Getting no replies to your face pic is somehow worse than being laughed at don't you agree?

Anyway you look like a guy
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>>6478720
Not in like the one pic I've seen of you desu. Either way, you can't compete with me in the man dept.
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>>6478720
Probably, 2 months was just a number i pulled out of my ass. i just gained weight slowly throughout transition and it worked okay for me but that could have been genes or w/e
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>>6478605
>Church accepts
>Mum doesn't
That's a weird one.
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>>6478731
Id outman you so hard you have no idea
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>>6478714
>tfw losing weight during HRT
I tried before but I was too depressed.
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>>6478684
gaining weight will make fat redistribution more effective (gaining tits, hips etc.)

after that, you can exercise to "trim away" and look fairly decent

skinny mode works well sometimes. bone structure and height will matter, and being very skinny will make your cheekbones and facial features more apparent. Personally I gained weight while on hrt without doing anything different in my diet.

A mtf friend of mine was on hormones for 2 years already has a skinny petite body (kinda jealous) but i developed bigger tits than her in 3 months than she had in all those years. And my waistline is shaping up fairly well too, only 6 months in, but I reckon genetics has a part in this as well.

tl;dr gaining weight to get bigger tits, feminine waistline and hips. skinny works sometimes but you need the fat to get a visible feminine shape

(anecdotal; scientific proof missing)
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>>6478610
>h
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>>6478740
yah it's not easy desu, it was more routine and habit for me rather than actual motivation.
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>>6478735
You wouldn't stand a chance against me in a man off.
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>>6478704
wew lad
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>>6478724
if they saw your long hair from behind and thought you were a girl, no

if they saw you full front, i guess so
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>>6478755
i dont pass a girl at all

does that count?
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>>6478743
>gained almost 40 pounds
>0 tits
>no hips
>all that happened was I lost height and my feet shrank
the lord did not give me good genetics
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>>6478755
front
so maybe there's hope, idk I wasn't trying to look like a girl or anything
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>>6478747
gotta have a hobby man ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>6478743
(and open to discussion)
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>>6478743
I had a friend like that too

Her nipples were really lewd tho to make up for it
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>>6478751
I can beat both of you
>>
Here is a picture from when i went to the mall yesterday.

my friend wanted to see what this colour looked like on me with my skin tone.
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>>6478757
yes

[spoiler]no sorry[/spoiler]
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>>6478751
Id just need to take a picture without makeup bby
I am like twice your age
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>>6478765
>>6478772
Dear god thank you so much for making me feel better
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>>6478765
You actually do pass
attractiveness=/=passing
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>>6478772
wew
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>>6478772
Deep Roy?

>>6478776
>>6478777
That's actually a CIS girl
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>>6478757
>tfw you only get pity passes
>>6478765
Still can't beat me.
>>6478775
No fucking way. My bone structure is manlier than my chad brother's.
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>>6478704
lmao what
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>>6478783
butt ugly one tho
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>>6478763
she had a super tiny soft body due to delayed puberty and starting at 18 (ritalin at a young age postpones puberty). Shame that she's awfully uncertain about her body. I called her "skinny" and she started a crying fit for 2 hours. pretty sure if i had said something like "slim" it would've been fine. And I am /really fucking jealous/ of her body too, if that wasn't clear enough

>>6478761
probably, i do not know what you look like but if girls think you look like a girl (not in mannerisms, clothing etc.) thats a pretty good sign. guys would just say you look like a fag or also mistake you for a girl.
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>>6478775
How old are you?
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>>6478783
literally everyone thinks i'm indian. i'm 1/3 native american 1/3 french /13 spanish.

i want to try wearing a hijab tho. no one fucks with people in a hijab.
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>>6478793
I'm really jealous of her body now too.....
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>>6478794
26

>>6478785
my BODYstructure is twice as manly as your brothers, I am the kind of dude your brother runs away from cause he cant handle it
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>>6478798
Indian guy at my work wants to get a tatoo that says I'm not Mexican, i don't speak Spanish
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>>6478743
ok this is what i look like from behind. i have a bit of a potbelly. will i be ok? i think i already have a pretty good shape pre-hrt. my arms are fatty too.
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>>6478808
>implying you can out man this
Stop senpai.
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forgot my trip but anyway

Finally went for a consultation with dental surgeon to fix my face. You could tell he immediately saw me as a trans person (mostly because most of his clients were 20 something rich girls with model like bodies). When he explained me what could be potential effect he used male face (yay). He also told me he won't fix my downturned mouth because there is no guarantee to fix it.

Fuck my life I have enough non-fixable things on me.
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>>6478815
you look like the white version of this girl I know. She passes.
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hello dysphoria, my old friend
what's that, yeah we haven't hated my face in a while
yeah that chin is looking pretty big or and that nose is disgusting, oh my brow and forehead don't make for a pretty sight either.

Fuck being a tranny
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>>6478812
fuck, he should get a tattoo that says made in india.
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>>6478823
I probs don't look like her IRL then. I don't fucking pass.
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>>6478808
Lol! You yungginz nowadays i swear

You pass, and are kinda cute though, kinda big jaw, but girls have big jaws sometimes

Dem hips do

>>6478827
He'd be into it
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>>6478815
Pleb passes better than me
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>>6478814
having a big butt is an underrated and under appreciated thing to have as a tranny. most likely you will develop a fair amount of body fat redistribution, but note that it might take a while for it to show on hormones if you literally overweight (not fashionably chubby).

>>6478815
fight me twerp
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>>6478838
No.
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>>6478835
Fuck i forgot to put a (you) in >>6478835
This
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>>6478812
>>6478827
Mexicans are Indians no? Hell, I'm an Indian thanks to Columbus' awful map reading skills.
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>>6478840
Senpai that pic was yesterday. Yours says prehrt. That's how fucked I am as of right now.
Fite me rn.
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>>6478844
Pleb you do.
Everyone has seen my timeline and agrees I look like a man
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>>6478824
My nose is absolutely fucked. I need to get a nose job before I even consider transitioning
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>>6478840
i love my butt. godbless BR genes. and im not overweight by all that much, i am just chubby, but my potbelly is a bit bad for my shape and it really limits what i can wear so i will be losing at least 15 pounds before HRT.
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>>6478866
my nose is shit but I guess I can handle it
hell I don't know even how good or bad I really look, it could actually not be so bad or it could be terrible
fucking dysphoria
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>>6478862
Did you not fucking see the pic I just posted? I have Chad face. The fucking linebacker shoulders don't help either.
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>>6478840
L~lewd

Ppl say i have a butt, but it's not one of those things you can't see so people compliment it cause you have no way of knowing if you're hugboxd
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>>6478850
Mexicans are people with spanish and aztec blood or just spanish blood but who come from Mexico after the Mexican american wars.

i'm Spanish and Yaqui. i like to say that we did not cross the border the border crossed us.

my family has been in the "US" for so many generations. first in Texas then in arizona and now in california.

sure a lot of my ancestors spoke spanish but that never made them Mexicans.

i very much dislike being called Mexican. i'm not racist it's just not accurate.
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>>6478872
http://m.imgur.com/a/qDnSr
Pleb please no one can out hon me. Even sheen beats me.
I'm even lower than potc
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>>6478835
>kinda big jaw,
>Dem hips do

youre confusing me for someone else.
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>>6478885
I think she meant to quote pleb
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>>6478885
I know, was meant for pleb, I'm really a very dumb person
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>>6478882
Hahahahahahahaha oh wow.
You weren't joking when you said you were worse than sheen.
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angie actually looks pretty okay in this image

>>6478882
>even angie can get someone
fug
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>>6478888
>>6478890
oh alright :3
>>
i would love to get FFS.

not sure it would do anything tho. i have them fat cheeks.
>>
Angie's p cute irl
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>>6478899
I believe it, but she wont
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>>6478855
ok ok u win ;-) my abs melted with hrt (alongside abstaining from working out)
>>
today has been a bad day and i only got up an hour ago
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>>6478855
(id still beat u up tho np xoxox)
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>>6478893
Put that hon away

>>6478901
Trip on Angie's bf
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>tfw still sound like a boy
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vkdjngLNB9
>>
Ugh kill me now, here begins day 2 of driving all day..
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>>6478882
Yeah, no. I'm still worse off than you.
>>6478835
>>6478888
>>6478890
I got Chad Thundercock jaw, chin and brow. My shoulders are wayy too fucking big for my hips.
>>6478902
>>6478906
Nah senpai.
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>>6478808
Still a youngster. I'd love to have had the revelations I had 5 years ago, when I was 25. I could have avoided some of my chest expansion. Oh, 51 here. Oh, my male cousins are literally the Marlboro man incarnate. From the neck down I slowly changed into that. My face is still OK. Apparently I spent enough time on hormones that it didn't change that badly after. I'd much rather have a slim body, and manly face. I could at least use FFS on it. As is, my body is manly now. ;_; It sucks!
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>>6478915
>tfw girlvoice is shit
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1unUFWansAX
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>>6478922
>tfw it gets worse as it goes on
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Going home, finally. And not even a Penelope waiting there. I might not post much in the coming days. Between reorganizing my workshop areas and all the paperwork and medical stuff I'm late for, it's going to be hectic.
So, before anons rejoice, nope, my not posting won't mean I've killed myself. Yeah, I can be a killjoy like that.
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>>6478921
>I'd love to have had the revelations I had 5 years ago

desu, Id probably tell my old self to kill himself before anyone really cares and to spare us this misery if I could
I wish I hadnt fallen for the transition meme tbqphwy
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>>6478935
Yes, please do be a killjoy like that. >>6478535 tells me I need to tell you about an encounter before a science fiction convention.
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>>6478922
What's the name of this manly, alpha male who voiced this?
>>
>Tfw someone loudly genders you female in front of your boss
Oh boy
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>>6478893
Please don't post my manly pictures

>>6478898
Didn't do anything for me

>>6478899
>>6478901
>>6478919
Yet I had my bf's co-workers rip me apart on how much I look like a man
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>>6478952
oh pls, you don't even look bad in that picture, you pass better than a lot of ppl here Angie

>>6478950
awh i remember those feels
>oh boy
k e k
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>>6478950
Joyce would be proud.

>>6478936
Eyoooo PhatChin.

>>6478919
Eyyy pleby.
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>>6478880
I actually know the feel
>Ancestors have been in Caribbean probably since the 1600s
>Still called an African
Of course genetically it's true but I have absolutely nothing to do with African culture.
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>>6478921
Hey, a feminine face and a strong body are a winning combo in my book, you know... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I'm sure you'll be able to fill your eyes with some.
Oh, and before our resident Statlers and Waldorfs chime in, no, I don't have ten such eyes neatly arranged at the end of tentacles. I'm not repressed straight either.
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>>6478956
hi rachel
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/mtfg/, do you have a husbando at all? Pic related for me, why is he so perfect?
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>>6478918
where are you driving?
>>
>>6478965
>admiring neckbeards
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>>6478964
hi angie, i hope you are doing well
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>tfw lost 10 pounds
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>>6478968
He's cute!!!
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>>6478966
Moving from Tucson to Portland. Right now I'm in Vegas and gonna spend the night in northern cali
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>>6478965
Of all the men in the world you pick up an overweight Youtube ""celebrity"?
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>>6478898
Word is bon. I'm trying to get a consult in September, but that shit is too long from now.
>>6478905
Eyy, that's me like everyday.
>>6478921
I'd have a chance if I spoke up 5 years ago. ;-;
>>6478952
I'm p sure they'd just say that a was a random 19 year old man then.
>>6478950
>tfw someone genders you female out of pity after a conversation with them
just kill me
>>6478958
Eyyy.
>>
>>6478975
He would be without the neckbeard
>>6478973
>angles and shadows
When will you stop this?
>>
>>6478956
Try again Rachel but with less hug icing this time
>>>/adv/17304355

>>6478969
That wasn't me
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>>6478962
One politician from Mayotte had a delightful retort after a right-winger from the southeast made disparaging comments about his island. It was along the lines of 'we may be poor, black and Muslims, but we've been French for longer than you Niçois', which was entirely true...
>>
>>6478950
Told ya!

When I went back down to roulette those same guys were on the table but I was already almost out of money
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>>6478962
>>Ancestors have been in Caribbean probably since the 1600s
same tho

>>6478956
lmao. He just glared at me

>>6478981
>tfw no one has gendered me female after I've talked to them

>>6478958
I doubt it while I'm working a slavewage
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>>6478981
Why are you posting DFW pleby? Don't do that.
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>>6478978
He lost a lot of weight tho :u
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>>6478978
>not the cutie dolph lundgren
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snacking on fruits is so gud

tastes gud

low calories

gud for you
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>>6478958
fat yourself
I havent even eaten today
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>>6478973
>>6478982
Srsly do you just have no access to light?
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>>6478986
>we may be poor, black and Muslims
so no different to mainland France?
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>>6478973
but still ugly
>>
>>6478977
lol im in Marin County. hope you like NorCal its v pretty
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>>6478991
It was when I was buying electrical components, so I he knew and gave me one out of pity.
>>6478992
I want to be the tranny dfw, but my writing sucks. So, I just post him because he portrays that feeling when.
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>>6479002
when I get my job I will buy a power supply for my mic, a new nice web cam, and one of these.
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>>6478986
Haha yeah these historical technicalities do happen. For instance;
>Jamaica, conquered by England in 1655
>Scotland, entered into political union with England in 1707
>>6478991
What island are you from?
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>>6478991
>I doubt it while I'm working a slavewage
So where most of his characters. You'd fit right in.

>>6478993
I don't think he lost enough.

>>6479001
Well you should. No need to add yet another item to your ever growing emotional baggage.
>>
>>6479017
His continual fight with depression and eventual suicide has nothing to do with it?
Also post writing.
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>>6479019
I actually have two of these languishing in my cupboard from my failed 3D scanning business. If you pay the postage you can have them
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>>6479026
how far did you run today?

I went an hour but hiked through the woods for half of it so I only made it like 4 miles
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>misty confirmed new meme mtf name
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>>6479012
I hope so, I'm only staying like one night though. I hope it looks better than this desert.

>>6479019
You could also just get a lamp.
>>
>>6479033
Well, yeah. He portrays tfw
And I'll post it when I post voice. :^)
>>
>>6479026
>No need to add yet another item to your ever growing emotional baggage.

what if I want to catch them all?
>>
>>6479025
Ireland

>>6479017
The pity ones are the worst

>>6479026
;~;
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>>6479034
>giving someone from mtfg my address
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>>6479045
Jfc Kayla is prettier than me
JDIMSA
>>
pls tell me there's hope give me feedback ;-;

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OpGFtinSnx
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>>6479045
lol remember that one time i found your house?
>>
>>6479050
hahahahahahaha
nice meme
>>
>tfw horny
I'm going to
Have anonymous sex with someone from Tindr, ama
>>
>>6479054
good thing I moved 100+ miles away
>>
>>6479054
so you tired of hugboxing me?
>>
>>6479050
>picture
>angle
i know it's hard for you but please stop being retarded
>>
>>6479056
how does it feel to have a vagina?
>>
>>6479057
no you didnt. you're still in the same deep dark dungeon
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>>6479044
>tfw those are the only ones you will ever get
>>6479050
Same desu, but that's been true since I stated.
>mfw I never stood a chance
>>6479059
>tfw your pics are angles and meme magicks
>>
morning mtfg
>>
>>6479063
>implying

>>6479056
just masturbate
>>
>>6479038

>Misty Plowright

Is she a porn actress?
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>>6479019
you don't need proffesional equipment to show your face
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>>6479063
its pretty good, would recommend
>>
>>6479066
just a new deep dark dungeon
>>
>>6479069
you're stil alive?

angie what the fuck, i want my money back
>>
>>6479063
It feels bad when there isn't irl futa penis inside of it
>>6479072
I'm bad at that
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>>6479075
But you have a smart phone which is basically professional equipment.
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>>6479037
I haven't ran at all today. I spent the whole day sleeping. Broke a PR on Saturday and that race banged me up pretty good. I am still sore and tight.

>>6479041
Oh come on. You want me to make one of those disposable mails?

>>6479042
What if you are not strong enough to carry it all?
>>
>>6479073
I have so many conflicting reports on this website about how i look. I'm confused and frustrated about it.
>>6479078
angie doesn't have the balls to kill me.
i mean, she does. but she's a coward.
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>>6479075
>dat chin
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>>6479078
Well fine I'll give you the $10
>>
my dad
>>
>>6479079
what about cute boy penis
>>
>>6479055
I am being full on serious

>>6479059
lmao
I look like garbage at every angle tho

>>6479068
Dang pleb you my spirit animal. It's like you know my feels before I do
>>
>>6479038
Shakira is the biggest meme name. There's always some joke about hips or booty.
>>6479044
I tell you a funny story:
>This woman asked me for directions
>She was white
>Yet she appeared to be talking to me in a Jamaican accent
>Hmm ok there are white Jamaicans, my neighbor was one.
>I ask her where she's from
>"Dublin"
So from them on I realized the Jamaican accent is derived from Irish. That's why we say "tree" instead of "three" etc. Have a listen, what do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVy5Sp6xyw
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>>6479045
more time on hrt kayla might actually be hot
>>
>>6479038
>Misty Plowright
>Misty K. Snow
What a joke. Those two hons spent way too much time playing Pokemon.
>>
>>6479085
A coward?
Far from it JJ
I don't think a jail sentence would be worth it for you
>>
>>6479086
>tfw need FFS
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>>6478936
I want to go back to 14yo, and not start snorting heroin. I initially did it to fit in. Most people around me were. That really fucked things up in my life. Not becoming friends with Gia would have helped, but that really didn't happen until after I was hooked. I'm sure my friendship with her accelerated my heroin use. She'd sometimes come over and we'd do heroin while I painted.

>>6478963
True it is, and at this point I find myself looking more for the beauty within. It's partly I'm more mature, and some that I know beauty doesn't last. For the most part, I now feel that internal beauty is the most important thing in a person.

>>6478965
(pic) still after all these years...

>>6478962
>>6478991
Mom's genealogy has informed us that in the first 20 boats bringing settlers to the continental US, we had relatives on all but one.

>>6479082
LOL No!
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>>6479078
R E F U N D E D
>>6479086
source for pic?
That looks neat
>>6479089
Depends on how the boy looks, but I'm open to it
>>6479085
Send me a pic, I'll give you my best objective criticism
>>6479090
> You less attractive than Kayla
I draw the line there
>>
>tfw not cute
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>>6479084
>What if you are not strong enough to carry it all?

I am better on my knees anyway

>>6479098
I am so jelly, I wish I had a rl druggie friend
>>
>>6478583
Phein mentioned this, I'll answer, unless you've always been skinny then get fat after hrt, then drop weight again, you aren't creating new fat cells, just filling old ones

About ten percent of fat cells die each year, and new ones will be placed according to your bodies hormones.

It's a slow process for real fat distribution, and it took years to get padding on the hips, breasts rounding and looking natural, and the thigh/butt fat just seems like it keeps pileing up even tho I've maintained the same weight +/- 5 pounds for 3 years.
>>
>>6479096
Well that's creepy
>>6479099
>merc doesnt know what i look like
SOME FRIEND
>>
why are you all so boring today
>>
>>6479101
It's impossible for trannies to be cute.
>>
>>6479101
It's okay
Ugly people are important because with out you, cute people could not exist
>>
>>6479109
i want to be a cute person though
>>
>>6479103
You don't end up on your knees, you end up in a padded room.
>>
>>6479084
oh cool nice. congrats on the pr
>>
>>6479106
I meant a recent pic!!!
I don't see you that often, baka
>>6479107
Bc
I'm going to have swinger sex
>>
>>6479109
thank you, i finally have a special place in this world
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>>6479107
How's your dysphoria anon?
>>
This country is hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt50Gfccmnw
>>
>>6479110
Then work on your appearance
Hair, makeup, styling
Plastic surgery...
>>6479114
Yw, yw
>>
>>6479097
Tfw ffs did nothing for me
>>
>>6479084
Blergh, I can't find one I like though. They all aren't very good. I can just send the one that's best graded, I guess.
>>6479090
But you just posted my feel before me. Spooky.
>tfw look terrible in every light and angle
>>6479101
Iktf.
>>6479118
Terrible.
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>>6479098
Tangerine was shot on an iPhone
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>>6479107
you mad that you wont ever see an outburst from me again?
My T level is at 3 now so no more T rage.
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how much does FFS cost?
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>>6479113
Hi Mercury!
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>>6479118
excluding the face i could look like that
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>>6479123
thats not true feefs
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>>6479128
bout tree fiddy
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>>6479123
post photos
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>>6479124
your a qt
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>>6479113
My recent pics are all terrible but i dont want to take a new one. This is from like april.
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>>6479126
>Tangerine
don't know if I want to see this or not on netflix

i watched this and all it gave me was feels
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>>6479111
that would probably be the only appropriate environment anyway
I hope I get a stragight jacket
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>>6479118
i don't have dysphoria
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>>6479126
>Tangerine was shot on an iPhone
seriously?
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>>6479128
Spiegel's person said 12k over the phone for me the other day, so probs cheaper for you.
>>6479138
I'm not see the pic I posted earlier.
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>>6479139
nigga you a BOY
you a BOY lookin nigga baka
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>>6479140
I don't know about you, but everything I watch gives me feels ;_;
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>>6479091
I actually knew this! Like old Jamaican ladies I've met here, it's hard to tell what exactly the accent is. Have you heard of Montserrat?
this was an irish language piece done in the 70's I think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZNEloGC1oI


>>6479124
symbiotic feels desu

>>6479099
I am tho
I got a garbage face lmao
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>>6479139
typical tumblr hipster
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>>6479145
if I'm only getting nose and chin can I expect it to be lower than 8K?
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>>6479133
Implying I'm feefs

>>6479137
I posted my time line
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>>6479139
you look like a girl don't listen to anon
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>>6479141
Well, my room wasn't even padded. It had a queen size bed and a full bathroom with tub, though. I guess my case was desperate enough to get me the VIP treatment. From what I gathered, those two luxury rooms at the clinic are usually occupied by wealthy foreigners who come there incognito for a "rest".
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>>6479145
12!?
Lol speigal quoted me 55k. That's how fucked my face is
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>tfw have to waste large sums of money on making myself look better
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Smiles by the thousands, ya tears have all dried out
'Cos I won't see you cry again
Throw pennies in the fountain, and look at what comes out
Sometimes wishes do come true


Everything was perfect, I knew this love is worth it
Our own micracle in the makin'
'Til the world stops turning
I'll still be here waiting and waiting to make that vow that I'll...


I'll be by your side, 'til the day I die
I'll be waiting 'til hear you say I Do
Something old, something new
Something borrowed, something blue
I'll be waiting 'til I hear you say I Do


I love this song so much
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>>6479140
whoops

>>6479149
>I don't know about you, but everything I watch gives me feels ;_;
yeah, every movie with a strong female lead makes me want to die
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>>6479163
it's okay, i'm getting FFS too
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>>6479151
True....
At least you don't have my face! ,
>>6479154
Call em desu.they quoted 10-12 for brow jaw and chin for me, but I honestly need more.
>>6479161
That's just phone, but my mom called so I think she downplayed how fucked I am.... I'll know a trve quote in sept. It'll probs be more.
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>>6479169
Tfw when me and Michelle went to the same surgeon but I got fucked and she didnt
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>>6479147
>>6479158
and this is why i'm frustrated and hate this shit
I pass in public, people hmu all the time.
maybe i'm just taking bad photos.
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>>6479112
Thank you. Have fun on the trails.
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>>6479170
>tfw going to likely spend all of my disabilities backpay on FFS
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>tfw afraid to talk to your gf
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>>6479170
I'll take your silence for an answer
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>>6479175
Oh so she already had ffs, that explains a lot

I just want my nose and brow done.
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>>6479124
>I can just send the one that's best graded, I guess.
Send it.

[email protected]
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>>6479151
Yep I recognize that accent.
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>>6479141
Tell them that you would also need force feeding through a tube.
And that the 2013 diagnosis was essentially right.
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>>6479177
all that really matters is that you feel less dysphoric and pass to normies. even if they are hugboxing you, it shouldn't matter if you feel less dysphoric

that's my mentality anyway
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>>6479180
>tfw too uggo to get a gf
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>>6479193
>And that the 2013 diagnosis was essentially right.

which part

>Tell them that you would also need force feeding through a tube.
no I dont want to get fat
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>>6479177
well you should be happy, you look like a mexican lesbian
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>>6479180
just do it please
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Not all transgirls need FFS. Laverne Cox never had it and she landed TV roles just fine.
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>>6479202
>you look like a mexican lesbian
i...sort of am?
>>6479194
ignorance is bliss.
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>>6479180
>tfw too afraid to talk to your gt
me and her need to split up
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>>6479203
are you her
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>>6479208
probably not i wouldnt be going by her
but i would want you to talk to me if i was her
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>>6479131
Hola!
>>6479139
You look feminine enough/passable, but not quite "female" right there imo
I think it's your attaire, women's clothes fit a little bit differently
Or maybe it's the angle of the shot
There u go, my opinion, lmao

But you pass anyway, don't you? So who cares, lol
>>6479151
You're really quite pretty imo
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>>6479177
you look like a cute girl, i'm serious. if i saw you around SF i wouldn't even think twice
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>>6479204
But ffs doesn't work on hons
It's a proven fact
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Always nice to stop by mtfg for a minute to get a quick fill of delusion, insanity and hugboxxing.
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>>6479206
I mean... it kinda is tho. I know I'm never going to know if strangers are hugboxing me, I have a bf who either has really bad taste in girls or is just hugboxing me, my parents and friends hugbox me but insist they aren't. and i feel less dysphoric than i did pre hrt. so overall, yea its kinda bliss
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>>6479188
i sent it, but pls never post it i know it's bad
>>6479204
>tfw one of the ones that need it
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>>6478973
>dat hook nose
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>>6479177
>I pass in public
ha.
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I need to run errands but don't want to get ready for the day

halp
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>>6479215
agggghhhghhhhGHHHHHHHHHHH
>>6479219
i don't think i can do the ignorance is bliss thing.
my mom has always told me i prefer to be right instead of happy.
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i'm reading all these older trans women arguing over the terminology that should be used to describe us, talking about how "a woman of trans experience" is better or avoiding using certain words, and i'm so confused as to where this push came from to just avoid being called male-to-female? it's like transsexual is a bad word now and everyone wants to act like we didn't transition from one thing to another, medically and otherwise. what tf gives? is no one ok with admitting they were once a man anymore?
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Are attractive trans "easier" than attractive real girls? really makes you think
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>>6479231
Are they? I don't actually know.
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>>6479230
Just say tranny or trans-nigger it something
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>>6478982
It's not just her, most trips here abuse angles.
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>>6479230
edie whats ur middle name
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>>6479230
>they were once a man anymore
If you were born a male, you will always be one. Cutting your balls and wearing a dress doesn't change that
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>>6479224
its not a hook nose, its a roman nose
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>>6479230
why would anyone want to have that reminder? I think it's a good thing
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>>6479226
Go get ready
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So I just had my surgeon call me and tell me my surgery went fine and that the difference is night and day.
I told him he made me a lot more masculine looking and that his fat ass should die
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>>6479170
i want to push you against the wall and do bad things to you
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>>6479095
Misty is a common nickname, and real name for some. The one I know best is Misty Lackey, and author. Mercedes Lackey is her given name. She's 66 now. BTW, she's had LGBT characters in her books.

>>6479103
Drugs are best stayed away from. If I'd stayed away from them, I'm sure I'd be very well known by now for both my art and photography. At 14 Lee Krasner, one of my painting mentors, compared me to her late husband Jackson Pollock at a dinner for artists and their patrons. I also grand slammed my first photography contest at 15, and my first paintings I sold later that year went on average for over $10,000 each. As is, drugs got in the way, and changed the course of my life. I started putting more effort into beauty, and making money doing stocks.

>>6479160
Sadly mine was...

>>6479163
Sadly nobody to remove 8-10" from my rib cage circumference.
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>>6479244
lets talk about noses
anyone ever met someone with a persian nose
aren't they the fuckin best??? those are hook noses.
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>>6479230
well lily is cis female now, so you need some way to make sure she's included under our trans umbrella
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>>6479249
i would probably enjoy that
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>>6479246
but im so nervous
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>>6479248
You will never be a girl. Just kys already
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>>6479244
okay hook nose it is
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>>6479256
like pin your hands against the wall and kiss you
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>tfw always a boy in my dreams

what does this mean...?
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>>6479258
51 days anon
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>>6479253
>Drugs are best stayed away from.

thanks
but its a little late for that

>>6479230
we need to reclaim transsexual as an expression and ditch all trenders, queers and whatever the fuck else there is
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>>6479240

..why..

>>6479243

i think socially transitioning from male-to-female is pretty clear in it's implications even if we are all biologically male.
and i can even understand the arguments stating that biology is inherently transphobic and doesn't account for modern science, or understanding, but it's still kind of a leap.

>>6479245

cause that's what we are lmao
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>>6479265
yes, this would be enjoyable
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>>6479258
>You will never be a girl
But I can become a heavily medicated chimera of secondary sexual characteristics that people glare at and maybe occasionally think is more likely to be female
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>>6479277
idk
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Can you die from jumping from 4th floor?
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>>6479284
no
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>>6479284
no
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>>6479284
its not too hard to find a building bigger than 4 floors
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>>6479230
Due to the issues with most ignorant cis, dropping male to female is a good idea. We never were males. We are male/female chimeras of a sort.

>>6479275
You can always go into rehab. I did. I got myself clean, and stayed away from them, except for alcohol. Later I even mostly cut its use back to just social settings now.
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>>6479284
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>>6479230
Transsexual is a dirty word for many older trans women because it reeks of gatekeeping, nothing more, nothing less... Don't read too much into it, I'm sure the younger generations who haven't had their lives fucked up by gatekeepers will reclaim it.

Also, going silent now. http://youtu.be/6smtAY8dXSI
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>>6479277
>i think socially transitioning from male-to-female is pretty clear in it's implications even if we are all biologically male.
and i can even understand the arguments stating that biology is inherently transphobic and doesn't account for modern science, or understanding, but it's still kind of a leap.
At least you're not delusional about it. I respect that
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>>6479275
>we need to reclaim transsexual as an expression and ditch all trenders, queers and whatever the fuck else there is

omg finally someone who agrees with me. transgender is just some bullshit non-medical term made up by some cross dressing faggot
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>>6479266
reality dreams
>>6479284
if you fall in the "right" way, MAYBE. but no
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>>6479295
>We never were males
that wouldnt fly because of all the "women" who transition in their 50s and 60s
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>>6479295
>We never were males. We are male/female chimeras of a sort.
More like delusional males who grew up in a feminine, estrogenic environment. You think you'd have these thoughts if were born to viking tribe?
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>>6479278
and fuck you like this
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>>6479297
Have a safe trip!
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>>6479266
>there's no me in my dreams
what does this mean?
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>>6479301
I gotchur back bb

>>6479295
>You can always go into rehab.
my problem is that I need to quit cause of bf and family and stuff but its really hard cause I REALLY DONT WANT TO
like, I have zero desire to stop, if I could Id move up desu, instead I am in this weird spot where I stop for a while, relapse, stop, relapse etc. it takes so much energy.
I bet just staying on would be healthier at this point
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>>6479310
Wouldn't that position be awkward? The dicks would touch
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>>6478404
>Who do you hate, /mtfg/?
Noone. Hate requires too much effort.
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>>6479226
>6'2" built man
>scared of society
Why Kayla?
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>>6479275

idk, i mean with the whole genderqueer/fluid/fuck thing that exists i don't even think that their identity is invalid?
i just think that it's probably somewhat separate from being a transsexual.
which is fine cause i've had those feelings myself, but the avoidance that is admitting that we transitioned in general or amab (unless it's convenient for oppression points or something) is real odd to me. i feel like most ppl don't even know how to separate anything anymore cause a lot of people don't understand how to separate their gender identity from their expression of that gender.

>>6479295

we're only chimeras because of biological advances tho at best. plus if everything we did was based on catering to ignorant cis ppl we'd all be fucked anyways.

>>6479299

ty. i'm very ok with being me and stuff and getting rid of what any of us has been through feels like cheapening it.
even if it is dumb or delusional or whatever it's still something we struggle with, idk. overcoming that in any way is a plus to me.
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So zukowski will be in vagina next month. I think an attack is in order :3
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why is /mtfg/ so chaserphobic?
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>>6479321
>6'2" built man
i'm 5'10'' and puny now
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>tfw cis female chaser don't exist
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>>6479317
all the better if they accidentally touch
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>>6479326
its seperated by whether or not you are actively transitioning

>>6479328
as long as you arent ugly or overly creepy no one cares
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>>6479330
Wtf? What did you do to lose height?
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>>6479337
slouching
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>>6479333
Have you met my gf
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>>6479333
theres one in this thread right now you dumb whore
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>>6479335
>all the better if they accidentally touch
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>>6479319
please hate me. I'm anon
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>>6479319
I saw that we talked when I got up earlier, I didnt read what happened (I never do that, reading my high posts makes me cringe and crave) and cant remember anything, but I am sorry if I hurt you in any way. youre important to me.

>>6479326
>people don't understand how to separate their gender identity from their expression of that gender.

this is accurate

>i don't even think that their identity is invalid?
I do tebeha.
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>>6479345
veeerrrryyyy sexy penis
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>>6479339
Did you lose bone density? Would you regain your height back if you did back stretches? Jesus christ how can you lose 4 inches of height
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>>6479345
you wanna touch?
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>>6479333
>tfw you've spotted a unicorn before

>>6479348
You didn't say anything to hurt me, I am worried though ;-;

>>6479347
No
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>>6479336

yeah, but no one can agree on what transitioning even if.
like is it just HRT? is it just living as a woman socially? is it surgeries?
no one knows where to draw the line for where transition starts, or where it finishes, which is the other problem.
like if i were to say that transition is only social, that would exclude tons of people who are actively pursuing HRT or working towards presenting full-time. if i said only surgery defines a transition then that would exclude most trans people. so what is it?

>>6479348

>i do
serve it to me phien goddess, school me on your ideologies desu
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>>6479354
N-no I'm straight
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>>6479275
>we need to reclaim transsexual as an expression and ditch all trenders, queers and whatever the fuck else there is
You don't have a monopoly on crazy PC.
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>tell mom I want ffs
>she says if you do it, do it to be pretty not because you think it'll make you look like a woman because you already pass and are prettier then a lot of women
>show her picture of trans congressional primary women's
>she literally goes "DAMN HES UGLYYYYYYYYYY" and like shakes her head repeatedly nonononono

I can't believe my mom is hug boxing me this hard rn
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>>6479352
Kayla is full 6'2 of meat and potatoes but she walks around with a nerd slouch to look 5'10
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>>6479361
if we're both straight, what's the issue?
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Good morning ^^
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>>6479275
99% are transitioning for gender reasons, almost no one transitions because they just want a vagina and breasts, which is why the medical term TS has been dropped
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>>6479368
whats ffs
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>>6479309
>You think you'd have these thoughts if were born to viking tribe?
Yes! I'd also have been allowed to keep house.

>>6479315
Yeah, that's an issue. I was seeing the drugs effecting my stock trading, and art production. I knew I had to stop to keep my income to retain my position in NYC. I didn't want to go back to normal kid life. As is I did end up doing that some, but retained the weekends in NYC to learn art and photography. It was in that period I also transitioned to being more critiqued than guided for my learning.

>>6479326
I wasn't talking about us post transition, but instead the inherent female brain in a male body, or vice versa. If anything one looses that chimeraness as one transitions.

>>6479333
They do. My K who has been my friend for ages is one. I'm not her only MtF lover. I wasn't even her first. She told me once that she was going to keep her hands off me, then I nibbled her ear.

>>6479368
It's in their job description...

>tfw almost time to start getting ready.
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>>6479356
id feel like transitioning is attempting to actively change your body and how others percieve you

for example: im non-binary i like to wear whatever clothes i want and cut my hair how i want, please respect my prounons teehee

vs. im non binary i dont feel comfortable being either male or female so im going to take hormones to push my body more towards androgyny
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>tfw noone to nibble your ear
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>>6479356
>serve it to me phien goddess, school me on your ideologies desu

even if this was valid, it would work against us by default. gender isnt a choice, its a birthdefect (in our case I mean) people that claim theyre 'fluid' or whatever are something we cant allow to go mainstream because it threatens our identities (e.g. if other people can switch their genders every 2 days, we dont we just switch to male instead of transitioning :^) )

>>6479366
they arent crazy, theyre snowflakes, thats not the same.

>>6479355
>You didn't say anything to hurt me
oki :3, I am glad to hear that

>I am worried though ;-;

d/w, bad things rarely happen to bad people, so I am probably safe.

>>6479377
exactly, we re transitioning to the opposite sex (well, not really, but you know what I mean)
we re not transitioning to another GENDER, I was born with female gender, calling me transgender makes little sense
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>>6479378
Fuck Faye's sister
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>>6479377
Exactly. Those who transition actually do it because they're lowtest omega males seeking validation
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>>6479374
>liking dicks
>straight
that's not how it works, Jeff
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>>6479166
D'aww those are some pretty lyrics. What's the song?
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>>6479378
Facial feminization surgery, my mom is like yes I think you need SRS to really be a woman, but you're gorgeous and shouldn't touch your face, I hate it because she's the most critical woman I've ever met.

She also said I was an Amazon, and I have man hands, so it's like, I don't know if she's trying to stop me from ffs or she's being serious, but.... Idk I have a couple hundred grand in cash sitting around and I think I need hairline jaw and nose done to pass
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>>6479387
>they arent crazy, theyre snowflakes, thats not the same.
Says you. Tumblr seems to think otherwise.
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>>6479395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfEKt4uRvU

>>6479398
>Tumblr seems to think otherwise.
tumblr doesnt think
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>>6479284
>>6479287
>>6479288
>>6479290
>>6479304
If a car hit you at this speed you would probably die.
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>>6479398
lmao
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>>6479393
i like yours too, pussy
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>>6479380

but we're just more female than male inherently if anything. so many studies conflict with those reports.

>>6479382

but if each one has an intent for others to perceive you differently based on how you feel internally yknow

>>6479387

but is it really our responsibility to cater to idiots? how does it threaten our identity?
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>>6479401
there would be significant trauma but youd have to get lucky to die, break ur neck or smth
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>>6479387
Reverse exactly, the medical term for sex only encompasses physical and biological changes, but you are being treated for dysphoria so that you can fit into society as a woman, this is by medical definition a gender issue, and the official reason transgender is the standard as a medical definition

Socially call yourself whatever you want, but scientifically it's better to name things accurately, so that in the future we can have a label for someone who wants a vagina or breasts without any help transitioning.
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>>6479393
jeff? is that your gay ex bf?
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>>6479400
>tumblr doesnt think
Wow dismissive much of others plight?

>>6479406
Пpивeт.
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>>6479418
Кaк дeлa? anon
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yikes
i got hardcore bullied last night
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>>6479416
why are you chasing rachel?
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I hate PC culture even if it's our own, can't I just be a sissy faggot like the girls in my stories?
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>>6479416
I swear everyone called Jeff is a wife-beater
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>>6479426
Oh I am fine. Making fun of Sophie, the usual.
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>>6479435
Living the dream.
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>>6479385
I even brought her to orgasm with just ear play. She even squeaked. Part of why I got nicknamed Squeak Toy.

>>6479387
>we re transitioning to the opposite sex (well, not really, but you know what I mean)
>we re not transitioning to another GENDER, I was born with female gender, calling me transgender makes little sense
I agree. We are changing sex, not gender. Transgender implies changing gender so I'm not happy with it. We need a word for "opposite gender" or "different gender" to be an umbrella term.

>>6479397
Go for it then. You don't need your mom's approval. It would be nice, but not required.

>>6479409
Post transition, we are basically female. Most cells are reformed in the female forms by 15 years. Only the nerve cells don't change that often are left in masculine form. Google "Every cell has a gender" for where I'm coming from on this.

>with that, it's time to get ready for my therapist's appointment.
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>>6479438
Oh I wouldn't say that making fun of a someone as deeply disturbed as Sophie is really all that good but it needs to be done.
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>>6479447

>basically female

that's not female tho
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>>6479428
the weird combination of cute, smarts, insecurity and autism
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>>6479427
why
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>>6479452
Do what must be done anon.
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>tfw nobody will ever want to be with you
>tfw you're a cold heartless bitch online and can't seem to translate your real personality to it
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>>6479427
Bullied?
People were just posting truth about you. That was a lot of creepy posts of yours in the archive.
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>>6479458
sometimes these 2 anons come in and bully me because they think i'm a chaser or something
idk i just gloss over it half the time because it's rubbish
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>tfw seeing qt girls makes you feel really masculine
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"Sex refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define males and females. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behavior, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women. Transgender is an umbrella term used to describe people with gender identities and/or expressions not traditionally associated with the sex that they were assigned at birth. Transgender women are individuals whose birth sex was male but who understand themselves to be, and desire to live their lives as, women. Transgender men are individuals whose birth sex was female but who understand themselves to be, and desire to live their lives as, men. Transgender people may identify as men, women, neither, both, or another gender. They can be of any race, sexual orientation, age, religion, body type, socioeconomic background, or national origin. Transgender does not imply any specific form of sexual orientation; transgender persons display a range of sexual orientations similar to those who are not transgender. Individuals may identify their gender in different ways over the course of a lifetime.

Transsexual is an older term that originated in the medical and psychological communities."
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>>6479467
oh you meant on here, yeah I saw that, you should just ignore it though, the people being bullied the least are the ones that don't reply.
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>>6479447
Ok edie 2.0
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>>6479478
it'd be easy to ignore if it was one anon but it's always a pair of 2 who feed eachother (you)s
i wonder who it could be honestly
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>>6479463
Я мoгy пoнять, пoчeмy.
>>6479477
god.
>>6479480
lol'd
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>>6479467
It was more like 3/4's of the thread.
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>>6479397
>Idk I have a couple hundred grand in cash sitting around
Can I be your bf? I'm not a chaser and like you because of your personality
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>>6479486
i mostly got positive replies until way later when 2 anons started tag teaming me so no it wasn't
i imagine you're one of them so i'm not going to humor you any longer
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>>6479482
If it's a lot of people you should probably just close the thread, like you ended up doing, but you humored them for too long.
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>>6479407
u gay nigga
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Anyone here feel like a hon because they're in a masculine career like programming or engineering? I wish I was artsy like other girls.
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Good thing the SJeWs can't ruin older games
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>>6479485
>google translate
nani kore
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>>6479504
programming is the most trutrans career
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>>6479504
No
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>>6479493
They were laying into grace, and grace literally has never had a personal relationship with anyone and is a literal puff ball rabbit
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>>6479495
i am a gay transbian, tyvm
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>>6479509
Poprobuyte luchshe v sleduyushchiy raz.
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>>6479477
Who wrote this crock of shit? I'd be curious to know the author's name if you don't mind
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>>6479510
program this
*unzips mutilated penis*
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>>6479515
>i am a mentally ill faggot who will humanely be euthanized
ftfy
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>>6479409
>but is it really our responsibility to cater to idiots?

exactly, we dont cater to idiots, which is why we shouldnt accept genderfuckery

>how does it threaten our identity?

if gender identity is considered fashion at some point, hc provider will stop providing service. this is dangerous, especially for poor transgirls.

>>6479412
>this is by medical definition a gender issue,
its a gender issue, but I am still not switching genders.

>>6479447
no more umbrella terms. I am a transsexual, nothing else.

>>6479418
>Wow dismissive much of others plight?
yes, I am pretty hardcore actually

>>6479477
>Transgender is an umbrella term
we shouldnt be lumped in with stuff that has like nothing to do with us just because libtards think its a good idea.
God am I happy to live in a country where we re still considered to be transsexuals
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>>6479522
tar -xvfj penis.tar.bz2
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>>6479527
>humanely
thank you
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>tfw even if you tried to repair your image and make your personality more like your IRL personality people would still hate you
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>>6479530
>yes, I am pretty hardcore actually
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i tell people im transgender because when they hear the word sex i think they associate me with sexual fantasies. help them understand identity is not entirely the same as orientation.
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>>6479530
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>>6479521
The American psychology association, and it mirrors WPATH definitions, so basically the entire worldwide medical community
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>>6479538
i would have been your friend if you didn't call me a hon
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>>6479542
is that phien?
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>>6479548
Friends are for Faggots.
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>>6479542
mommy...
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>>6479538
your shitty personality aside, people probably hate you because you look like an ork
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>>6479540
I was actually thinking about exactly this :3

>>6479542
hi fan

>>6479550
yep
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>>6479482
Don't be like me kiwi. Ignore the haters
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>>6479548
the shitty part is that even though I know it's unnecessarily mean I can still feel the urge to make fun of you
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>>6479548
But you are a hon. And stop posting those tiny gifs of yours on /wsg.
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http://archive.loveisover.me/_/search/text/rape/username/kiwi/
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Do you sometimes have days when you cry for hours?
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>>6479551
im a huge faggot
>>6479555
okedoke
>>6479556
i know, i'm vulnerable and an easy target
>>6479558
i'm not? are they getting posted there?
>>6479563
nearly every day
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>>6479563
i wish i could cry
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>>6479563
No not really. Has something happened nikky?
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>>6479543
>psychologists trying to explain biological phenomena
they weren't lying when they said the field turned into a panderistic pseudo-scientific shithole
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>>6479512
grace is a piece of shit
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>>6479566
For me it getting worse every day.
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>>6479530

wouldn't you rather cater to the idiots on our side tho?
also when would it ever be considered a fashion? there's variations of it

>>6479541

that's so weird to me, idk. but i never really talk about it with ppl irl so idk.

>>6479563

sometimes.
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>>6479530
This is a sciencetific definition,

You go to the doctor to get treated because something is impacting your ability to function.

It doesn't matter what they call themselves, they all want the same thing, help with various gender related presentations and acceptance.

Treating someone who wants to be a man but sound like a woman, is the same as a transwoman that wants to sound like a woman, and they want it for the same reason, gender presentation.

They don't care about your objective, they care about treating what is stopping you from being happy enough to live in society, namely a voice that you are confident in.
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>>6479577
do you want to talk about it?
what's making you upset nikky?
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>>6479572
Keep trying and eventually you will. Coming from someone who used to never cry.
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>>6479554
saving this to fap to later, thanks bb
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>>6479578
That girl looks awful.
What is your fascination with her?
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>>6479563
>abusing hormone changing drugs makes you unbearably depressed
who would've thought that
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being trans is fucking horrible i don't like it
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>>6479512
You know you have problems when a middle-aged crossdresser defends you.
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Had a patch test with laser yesterday

Got a this soft wet black spot now

What is it? A burn? A blister?
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>>6479587
My depression stopped after hormones.
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>>6479575
But it matches the world wide endochrinology definitions too, and psychologists still went to med school
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>>6479589
it's too late now, isn't it faggot
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>>6479574
This whole story with the surgeon.
>>6478822
Being in waiting room with other patients (small young cis women) was especially painful.

I wasn't always like this. This depressed nature of mine started when I went full time. I just feel so ugly, big and fake. Before I was just feminine boy and I'm starting to thinking about going back to being just feminine boy (on HRT). It's so much easier not giving a shit that you don't look like cis women when you are just boy.
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>>6479587
this >>6479594

>>6479589
I think nobody likes it. We all would have loved to be cute cis girls.
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>>6479593
A burster.
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>>6479576
that greasy chaser deserves everything bad he gets, it's about time people stopped turning a blind eye to his shit.
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>>6479579
>This is a sciencetific definition,

luckily it isnt here. But theyre trying to americanize this.
imo transgender isnt science, its a political buzzword thats leaking into science.

>>6479584
yw bby <3

>>6479578
>wouldn't you rather cater to the idiots on our side tho?

I dont follow

>also when would it ever be considered a fashion?
femboys are fashion, non binaries are fashion, 'trannies' that are just cislesbians with colorful clothing are fashion.
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>>6479610
>>6479610
>>6479610
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>>6479605
>I think nobody likes it. We all would have loved to be cute cis girls.
what if I told you there is a way...
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>>6479605
>one chance at life
>born male
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>>6479603
Are you going to detrans?
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>>6479615
You mean I need to eat the apple from the old lady in the tavern?

>>6479616
God had ONE JOB.
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>>6479603
seems like a common thing these days >>6474887
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>>6479463
Maybe if you stopped hoarding chromosomes.
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>>6479455
Depending on when transition starts, uterus, genitals, lack of ovaries, and possibly skeleton shape are all that is different. All the cells in or bodies eventually get replaced, except for the brain. The brain is already in female form.

>>6479477
There are gender stuff like preferred sex position, receptive versus instertive that are biological gender determined.

>>6479480
We differ enough...

>>6479530
I use the terms most people know, so I use transgender, etc., even though I'm not happy with them. I prefer accuracy of communication.

>tfw being dangerous. I'm wearing white today.
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