Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

>>6422510
>Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

This sums up all of /lgbt/ in a nutshell. Everyone here hates everyone else. Everyone everywhere hates otherkin. Is this supposed to be news?

>>6422510
Gender dysphoria is a real thing with historical and scientific evidence backing it up.

"Otherkin" literally never got over the childhood dream of turning into a dragon.

>>6422510
They are just using "otherkin" to either feel special or justify their flaws. It's easy to to feel unique when you have the soul of a dragon, the reason you aren't very social is because your kin type doesn't get a long with people, or maybe they're even repressed trans and have not realized it yet

>>6422510
Translation: Otherkin make me very uncomfortable because they point out how farcical the idea of identifying into a biological category is.

>>6422519
>People don't want to be lumped in with groups with barely any relation

Wow who woulda thought

At least I identify as something that a human zygote can develop into :^)

>>6422510
This person needs to check their privilege as a cisspecied person.

Which bathroom do otherkin use?

>>6423142
To "normal" people you all look kind of the same and ultimately just want acceptance for whatever your differences are.

But you're all a little like religions. You all seem to think that whatever you happen to be, be it bi, trans, gay, other, whatever, is all good but all the others are fucked and wrong.

I'm here from normie land to tell you that to the vast majority of us you're all just "different" and we're cool accepting you so long as you're not assholes about it. Y'all seem super full of hate though and that's not good for anyone.

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>>6422510
>>6423110
>trailer trash claiming they know more than all doctors combined
Talk about pot calling kettle black

>>6423273
Found the mentally ill tranny kin. stay mad sir

Why do people waste their lives entertaining these delusions?

Get a job for fuck's sake.

>>6423290
Keep insisting your ged courses taught you how to doctor.

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>>6423294
>>6423290
>>6422510
Reminder to everyone that op is the same ban evading child porn spammer who admits he shitposts here cause he thinks pedos like himself are more noble than gays and trans.

He's a legal menace to the site. Report pedo for evasion and help the mods catch him for evasion yet again.

>>6423316
>butthurt tranny freak calls everyone that disagrees with them a pedophile

That's...not going to work. You know that, right?

>>6423316
>He's a legal menace to the site.

>ITT: people on 4chan shocked that there are pedos.

Not that guy, but how the hell did you puffballs ever decide to settle on 4chan as your forum?

>>6423333
Too bad people have gotten good at knowin when it's you pedo.

Every time they figure out its you and report you to te mods, they always realize it's you and give you a global for cp spam.

Maybe you shouldn't have brought your pedo shit here, then you could post.
>>6423334
Yea but do you think it's a good idea to give free reign to an ip hopping cp pusher?

Feds souls shut the site if his kind isn't purged every time they crawl out of their filth.

>>6423273
>Absolutely no medical consensus on the issue.
>only research indicates that brains aren't sexed
>politically and economically motivated decisions pointed to as evidence of some scientific conclusion

>>6423366
>when it's you pedo

I'm not even the same poster. You tranny fucktards really need to get a grip.

>>6423148
So, like, you're an adult baby?

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>>6423375
Personally, I think a person should deal with the hand that life has dealt them.

If you're rich and successful enough to go on hormone therapy and get the operation done, all power to you.

If you want to use tax dollars to pay for it, get a job. I'd prefer that the money I've been forced to pay to the government be used to fill potholes or fund the military instead of paying out to you because can't deal with the fact your were born with a penis or a vagina.

>>6423375
>>6422510

>Specifically, in a 304 voxel sized cluster affecting the left pre- and postcentral gyri a 32 voxel sized cluster affecting the left posterior cingulate, calcarine gyrus, and the precuneus, showed lower GM volume in MTF transgender patients and female controls compared to FTM transgender patients and male controls. The opposite direction of differences could be observed in a 123 voxel sized cluster in the right occipital lobe involving the middle and inferior occipital, the fusiform, and the lingual gyri, in a 42 voxel sized cluster affecting the right inferior temporal gyrus, where regional GM volume proved to be higher in MTF transgender patients and female controls compared with FTM transgender patients and male controls /PMC3877116/

>Compared to men and women, MtFs showed differences in a neural network including the medial prefrontal gyrus, the insula, and the precuneus when responding to male vs. female voices. With increased voice morphing men recruited more prefrontal areas compared to women and MtFs, while MtFs revealed a pattern more similar to women. On a behavioral and neuronal level, our results support the feeling of MtFs reporting they cannot identify with their assigned sex. /PMC4222943./

>We explored the specific hypothesis that male-to-female transsexualism is associated with gene variants responsible for undermasculinization and/or feminization...To date, this is the largest genetic study of transsexualism conducted. We observed a significant association between longer AR gene polymorphisms and male-to-female transsexualism. Longer CAG repeats in the AR gene lead to reduced binding of the AR protein to co-activator, due to its inhibitory interaction with the receptor, resulting in less effective testosterone signalling, a mechanism typically involved in masculinization of the brain during early development /PMC3402034/

>>6423393
You sure talk like a pedo. How about we let the janitors decide if you're ip evading.

>>6423375

>“An established body of medical research demonstrates the effectiveness and medical necessity of mental health care, hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery as forms of therapeutic treatment for many people diagnosed with GID ... Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that the AMA supports public and private health insurance coverage for treatment of gender identity disorder.”
Keep talking about how the illuminati oppress you.

>>6423540
>/PMC3877116/
>Seventeen patients with the diagnosis of GID
>18 age matched control subjects
>barely even statistical significance versus control for the transgender individuals that showed a difference in GM volume
>no mention of whether or not patients with significantly varied GM volume versus control were on hormones/how long they had been on them
>trannies think this is convincing

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>>6423540
>it actually believes this proves its point

>>6423595
>>6423610

>Specifically, in a 304 voxel sized cluster affecting the left pre- and postcentral gyri a 32 voxel sized cluster affecting the left posterior cingulate, calcarine gyrus, and the precuneus, showed lower GM volume in MTF transgender patients and female controls compared to FTM transgender patients and male controls. The opposite direction of differences could be observed in a 123 voxel sized cluster in the right occipital lobe involving the middle and inferior occipital, the fusiform, and the lingual gyri, in a 42 voxel sized cluster affecting the right inferior temporal gyrus, where regional GM volume proved to be higher in MTF transgender patients and female controls compared with FTM transgender patients and male controls /PMC3877116/

>Compared to men and women, MtFs showed differences in a neural network including the medial prefrontal gyrus, the insula, and the precuneus when responding to male vs. female voices. With increased voice morphing men recruited more prefrontal areas compared to women and MtFs, while MtFs revealed a pattern more similar to women. On a behavioral and neuronal level, our results support the feeling of MtFs reporting they cannot identify with their assigned sex. /PMC4222943./

>We explored the specific hypothesis that male-to-female transsexualism is associated with gene variants responsible for undermasculinization and/or feminization...To date, this is the largest genetic study of transsexualism conducted. We observed a significant association between longer AR gene polymorphisms and male-to-female transsexualism. Longer CAG repeats in the AR gene lead to reduced binding of the AR protein to co-activator, due to its inhibitory interaction with the receptor, resulting in less effective testosterone signalling, a mechanism typically involved in masculinization of the brain during early development /PMC3402034/

Why do tinfoilers think their feels invalidate the results of numerous studies?

>>6423610
>>6423595

>Bao, Hahn, Kranz, Kaufmann "Structural Connectivity Networks of Transgender People".

>Kruijver "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus."

>Bentz "A polymorphism of the CYP17 gene related to sex steroid metabolism is associated with female-to-male but not male-to-female transsexualism."

>Hare "Androgen receptor repeat length polymorphism associated wth male-to-female transsexualism."

>Garcia-Falgueras "A sex difference in the hypothalamic uncinate nucleus: relationship to gender identity."

>Rametti "White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study."

>Berglund "Berglund, H. et al. “Male-to-Female Transsexuals Show Sex-Atypical Hypothalamus Activation When Smelling Odorous Steroids".

>Yokota, Y. et al “Callosal Shapes at the Midsagittal Plane: MRI Differences of Normal Males, Normal Females, and GID”

>Zubiaurre “Cortical Thickness in Untreated Transsexuals”

>Gooren "The biology of human psychosexual differentiation." Meta-analysis of sex-steroid production and prenatal androgen exposure in transgender people.

>Garcia-Falgueras "A sex difference in the hypothalamic uncinate nucleus: relationship to gender identity."

>V.S. Ramachandran "Occurrence of phantom genitalia after gender reassignment surgery".

>Luders "Regional gray matter variation in male-to-female transsexualism."

>Boston University Medical Center. "Transgender: Evidence on the biological nature of gender identity."

>>6423610
>all the pedophiles damage controlling this much

>>6422510
>Wanting to ridiculize being trans and trying to pass it off as something else.
Never change republican faggot

>>6423665
Have you even read the titles to the articles you're trying to hide behind? Half of them are either contradictory or unrelated to what you're trying to claim.

>>6423722
Studies claiming hormonal abnormalities in utero is pretty consistent.

Trailer trash claiming they're false cause feels is too.

>>6423736
>Kruijver "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus."

Nothing to do with gender identity

>Bentz "A polymorphism of the CYP17 gene related to sex steroid metabolism is associated with female-to-male but not male-to-female transsexualism."

Also common among lesbians, nothing to do with gender identity

>
>Rametti "White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study."

Contrary to what you're trying to claim, and not related to gender identity

>>Berglund "Berglund, H. et al. “Male-to-Female Transsexuals Show Sex-Atypical Hypothalamus Activation When Smelling Odorous Steroids".

While on female hormones

>Yokota, Y. et al “Callosal Shapes at the Midsagittal Plane: MRI Differences of Normal Males, Normal Females, and GID”

Not related to gender identity

>Gooren "The biology of human psychosexual differentiation." Meta-analysis of sex-steroid production and prenatal androgen exposure in transgender people.

Also just conflating gay males with transgender women

>V.S. Ramachandran "Occurrence of phantom genitalia after gender reassignment surgery".

Contradictory to what you're claiming

>Luders "Regional gray matter variation in male-to-female transsexualism."

Not related to gender identity

>>6423781
>>Kruijver "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus."
>Nothing to do with gender identity
>Luders "Regional gray matter variation in male-to-female transsexualism."
>Not related to gender identity
>Gooren "The biology of human psychosexual differentiation." Meta-analysis of sex-steroid production and prenatal androgen exposure in transgender people.
>Also just conflating gay males with transgender women
>Also common among lesbians, nothing to do with gender identity
Lesbians aren't intersex hormone mutants. Those are ftm.

You can't say it isn't relatrd when they explicitly say its part of te phenotype wih gid. Put up or shut up.

>>6422524
This

most of them are just ' a bit out there' and need to stop trying to be special, however a few need to be locked into solitary confinement.

>>6423069
The same could be said of trannies tho

>>6429769
Not really. Being male or female doesn't make someone special. Being a fairy dragon, on the other hand...

>>6429779
No but trannies think that the only reason their lives are shit and nobody loves them is due to being the wrong gender. They think when they transition life will be easier and better.

>>6429790
> They think when they transition life will be easier and better.
Pretty sure that's normally actually true?

>>6429802
Yeah keep thinking that.

>>6423230
A tree outside probably

>>6423273
>Talk about pot calling kettle black
That's not how the saying works.

>>6429802

No, they usually commit suicide when they realize that they're not a woman and that passing is a meme.

The only people who believe otherwise are uneducated idiots like you who just repeat whatever fairytale they heard on the internet that sounds good to them.

>>6430402
Except for all the people who've transitioned and live much happier and fuller lives than they otherwise could've. Unfortunately those people don't tend to be the type to hang around toxic places like 4chan.

This is not to say that transitioning makes everyone happier, but your personal opinion doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of happy transitioned people out there whether you see them or not

>>6430402
The folks who came up with the treatment in the first place and the psychologists who followed in their footsteps both found that transitioning helps some adults so long as they are carefully screened.

>>6422510
Except believing you're a dragon is some made up bullshit and being trains have scientific basis

>>6423526
The irony being that without treatment trannies tend to end up on government assistance programs anyway so you actually want to pay more to support trannies as non-functional people than to allow them the recommended necessary effective medical treatment to turn them into function contributing members of society.

>>6432898
Nobody gets to pick how we are born.
People don't get to pick to be born doctors, so they go on and get education, and they eventually become doctors. It isn't fair that I pay for their education.
I didn't get to pick to be born female, so I work hard to one day eventually transition. It ain't fair other people have to pay for it.

>>6432966
>People don't get to pick to be born doctors, so they go on and get education, and they eventually become doctors. It isn't fair that I pay for their education.
America, everybody. Have fun with your crippling debt.

>>6422510
Are you seriously trying to compare an actual medical defect/disorder within the human species to some attention whore claiming they were supposed to be born a dragon? Come on now.

>>6432966
>Nobody gets to pick how we are born
No but if someone has a debilitating condition that makes them a non-functioning drain on society and there's a relatively cheap treatment available that can make them a functioning contributing member of society then it just makes financial sense to provide that treatment.
Otherwise you're literally choosing to pay more in assistance programs and lost productivity just for some emotional philosophical victory of "muh bootsraps" bs.

You totally could have the view that there should be no assistance for disabled people but while there currently is the question is why there should be an exception for providing the recommended necessary treatment only in the one case of trannies and the answer is basically emotional appeals that trannies are weird and icky so people don't like them.

>It isn't fair that I pay for their education.
It may not seem "fair" to you but it is actually a beneficial reality for society in some cases where areas lack certain medical specialists and one of the ways it is fixed is by offers to help pay for education provided they practice in the area for a set time.
Humans have gotten this far by doing what works, not necessarily what is fair. Life isn't fair.