So tolerant, so peaceful.

>>6416009
>expecting anything better out of conservatives

>>6416111
Yeah, they should be more like liberals and defend Islam after a Muslim murdered 50 LGBT people

>>6416111
>Muslims
>conservative
They all vote labour m8

>>6416127
The liberals in turkey are the ones pushing for secularization against the AKP
>>6416132
>conservative only has one definition

>>6416143
While liberals in America and Europe suck Muhammad's dick while people get raped and murdered all around

>>6416158
Ok? That's not relevant to the discussion

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Hey, looks like it's time to kick Turkey out of NATO and end Erdogan's evil oppressive regime by declaring war on them and turning their country into lawless wasteland.

>>6416127
>christian shoots up an abortion clinic: It's a mental illness issue! stop demonising a whole group based on one nutjob!

>muslim shoots up people:THOSE DIRTY SUBHUMANS! this PROVES 100% that every single member of that group is a monster beyond redemption and must be exterminated!!!!

I really can't wait for /pol/ shitposting to slow down after trump loses, back to the usual steady leak out of their containment board.

>>6416314
Don't forget them whining "false flag! false flag! he's not even a christian, just a secret tranny because of a records error or liberal even though he handed out anti-obama pamphlets to his neighbors and conservative christians regularly call for abortion doctors to be killed!"

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>>6416009

>>6416158
>if you show any nuance or forethought you support terrorism
Reminder that conservatives and our previous president created ISIS by doing none of the above. Why don't we just send our Republicans to fight ISIS instead?

>>6416009
Hey, here's an idea.
Why don't you fags man up and fight?
The army's don't ask don't tell now.

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>>6416388

According to Obama, we are not at war with Islam.

Not much point if they arent fighting the enemy.

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>>6416396

Islam is Islam, even the part about throwing homosexuals off a cliff.

>>6416396
>I-I just can't go fight because I wouldn't be able to exterminate them all like in my vidya games!

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>>6416406

They have no intention of destroying ISIS. They are ISIS, Turkey, Israel, the Saudis and the US.

>>6416406
>>6416424

That was also just some random muslim who decided to pledge allegiance to ISIS, but he said he did it because of US intervention, so technically, according to the guy who shot up the club, more fighting in the middle east would only make them more likely to commit more violence on US soil.

The only obvious solution is to ban the religion as a terrorist death cult based on murder, slavery, torture and forced conversion. It doesnt matter what the people say they believe in, because between 250 million and 400 million muslims believe its okay to blow themselves up with innocent women and children to further the cause of Islam, ~10-15% in every country, including indonesia, which isnt even arab.. and the quran itself directly tells them to do all those things.

>>6416388

You're mistaken. It's no longer Don't ask, Don't tell. That was the policy that no one could ask you your orientation, and you couldn't reveal it. So you could serve as a gay man only if you were closeted. Now you can be open about being gay.

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>>6416457
And to think these animals are the head of the UN human rights committee.

>>6416132
>voting labour
>in Turkey
Well meme'd.

>>6416328
>>6416314
If you look at what percentage of the population is Christian and what percentage is Islamic and then compare the how many terrorist attacks are done by each then you'll see Islam produces death at a much more staggering rate than Christianity.

>>6416314
"B-but teh abortion clinics!" You Islamist sympathizers really need new material.

Please move to Karachi or Tehran and put your #NotAllMuslims meme to the test.

>>6417104
>how dare you imply there are shades of gray or nuance! You fucking cuck

>>6417104
UMMM HELLO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU NOT KNOW OF THE FUCKING CRUSADES?!!? WHAT ABOUT WW1 AND WW2?!? THEY WERE ALL CHRISTIANS!!! CHRISTIANS HAVE DONE LIKE WAY MORE VIOLENCE!!!

>>6417138
Actually, you're the one refusing to see nuance. You want to pretend that everything that falls under the purview of 'religion' is exactly the same, no matter what the doctrine, no matter what the adherents think, no matter the rates of violence.

>>6417138
>muh nuance

>>6417150
>implying
There's definitely a difference between my Somali coworker, whom I am openly gay to, and the Saudi government

>>6416970
this

/pol/, the reason why this recruitment tactic won't work is that you secretly wish you could shoot up a gay bar.

>>6417148

>DO YOU NOT KNOW OF THE FUCKING CRUSADES?

I know you're just meming, but it's startling to me how so few people even realize what the Crusades were launched in response to.

>>6416970
This is because people don't do background checks on "christians". If somebody commits a terrorist attack is and is of Christian background, it is not relevant to the discussion. The media doesn't report it and nobody investigates into it. Religion is only relevant when someone looks a little arabic. Of course the numbers are skewed.

>>6416384
>nuance or forethought

Is that what you call looking through privilege goggles all day every day

>>6417206
I'll take people who might want to shoot up a gay bar but wouldn't over people who actively defend and protect people who do

>>6416314
in my fedora neckbeard opinion I blame religion for both of these cases, however there definitely aren't as many Christians shooting up abortion clinics as there is Muslims shooting up Americans in general

mateen wasn't a practicing Muslim tho

He was a regular at the bar that he shot up and had a grindr profile, he pledged allegiance to 3 different and opposing Islam terrorist groups to try and mask his identity crisis

He had mental health issues which were worsened by his homophobic Muslim upbringing, leading to self hatred

>>6416009
I like that they put it as 50 instead of 49

>>6417932
lol nigga how dumb are you? who are you to judge if he's a real muslim or not? he was more of a muslim than any of the trannies on this shit tier board are women.

>>6417964
several news reports have come out with info given by his dad/wife/ex wife that he wasn't praying at the mosque or fasting for Ramadan etc

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>>6417754
Good thing you don't have to choose. Except oops you do since everyone has abandonded the liberal left - your actual allies and the only ones to ever give a shit about you - and declared them "cucks" so now you're stuck choosing between the plague and cholera. But hey, look at it from the bright side - at least you're not getting "cucked" with stuff like free education and healthcare and worker's rights! Who need that crap when you have a horde of paranoid, anime-obsessed neonazis with repressed homosexual urges who want to shoot you but probably won't?

>>6417986
>your actual allies and the only ones to ever give a shit about you

lol you cunts only pretend to care about one group until another comes along that's higher up on the oppression pole. Sorry, I ain't drinking the liberal kool aid anymore. Feel free to hate white people and protect the religion of peace all you want cupcake.

>>6417206
I browse /pol/ regularly, am an atheist, don't care about Jews at all one way or another, and am gay myself.

I also just realize that mass importation of Muslims will ultimately be LGBT suicide. Do you really think the liberal politicians will care about you when they have an infinitely importable voting bloc that thinks that your lifestyle should result in you getting executed?

>>6418002
>Pretend to care
Yeah we pretend so hard and are such good actors that we dedicate our free time trying to make the world a better place for you and sometimes we fucken kill and die for you. But it's just pretend, just cucky opression olympics, just a tactic to trick you into supporting things stupid shit like "democracy" and "human rights" and "livable wages" which are just faggy. No I get it, people who like Hitler are a WAAAAY better choice.

Better dimiss all this with a strawman and a cuck-joke, anon! Quickly, before an actual thought forms in your head!!

[spoiler]We will still be there when you see the light. When you grow up a little. When you need us. And we won't turn you away. Remember that. Now meme away anon! Have fun, you little rascal, this is the Internet after all and nothing here actually matters so just enjoy yourself. [/spoiler]

>>6418076
Hey, you might have done some good in the past, but now you're just far too preoccupied with safe spaces and hijacking vigils with BLM and outlawing mean Twitter posts and hating whitey and importing as many Muslims as you possibly can.

>And we won't turn you away

You already have.

Make America great again.

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Seriously guys, don't be so intolerant of Islam. That's not cool.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

I mean, you're not RACISTS are you?

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Islamophobia and Homophobia go hand in hand and must be faced together!

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Islam has your best interests at heart.

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So vote Hillary!

>>6418094
I acknowledge that the last few years have been... weird for us, but out heart was in the right place. We just went a bit overboard in some instances; that's caring TOO much not too little. We haven't had a proper enemy, you know, we needed SOMETHING to do...

But that ain't a reason to run straight into the arms of the enemy! Conservatives have NEVER been on your side. So in the choice between "hated you always" and "loved you always but made screwed up a little lateley" you choose the guys that hate you? Really?

But anyway we got a real enemy now. And when fascists like ISIS come a 'knockin' you don't go to the conservatives or whoever else. You go to the Left. We've saved your asses every damn time, and we will again. C'mon. It's us. I mean the last few years have been rocky, but we can make this work again, bby! C'mon baby, it's us, you know us! C'mon. Baby please?

>>6418114
>>6418131
>>6418142
C'mon lefties, lets stop this meak bullshit - we used to run people like this over with tanks! C'mon, lets go anti-religious left again. Remember the good ol' days, lefties? Remember our song?
>Pust’ yarost’ blagorodnaya, vskipaet, kak volna! Idyot voyna narodnaya, svyaschennaya voyna!
C'mon!

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For a more diverse tomorrow.

>>6418094
>>6418016
>import

>>6418189
I'd never imagine I'd quote Stefan molyneaux ever, but
>not an argument

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>>6418076
>democracy

>human rights

>livable wages

And you think you will retain/achieve these things by importing millions of Mohammedans?

>>6416314
More people die every day in Detroit gang violence than in Christian terror attacks in the last five years

>>6418076
>we dedicate our free time trying to make the world a better place for you and sometimes we fucken kill and die for you.
Nice list of things that never happened.

>>6418188
>conservatives

You're strawmanning everyone on the right as a dying ideology

I'm right wing and deff not a conservative

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>>6416314
>Christian terrorist meme
Christians make up 1/3 of the entire world yet only 300 Christian terrorist attacks in the past decade.

While muslims make up a billion less in the world population but account for a disproportionately higher number of terrorist attacks.

Learn to statistics
But what does a leftist know about facts, facts are like krypton to a lefty.

>>6416009
>So tolerant, so peaceful.
>turkeys government is neither
good job you have basic observation skilles

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>>6418142
>russia
>neutral on LGBT issues
this seems accurate

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>>6418189
>post-modernism is part of a muslim conspiracy
holy shit this is hilarious

>>6418902
The alternative right extends beyond a political ideology; it's an entire worldview, aiming to unify and explain everything currently happening

Would you /pol/ shits kindly stop posting Islam threads on our board? /lgbt/ has shit all to do with Islam or any other religion. This is a board for discussion of LGBT-related topics.

As for the rest of you, learn to report, hide and move on? This shit isn't going to stop if you just keep feeding the trolls.

>>6418885
Russia is rather neutral. We don't have any legal punishment for homosexuality, like they do in muzzie countries.

>>6418931
Alt-right weirdos terrify me

>>6418959
yeah but the "homosexual propaganda" laws are pretty much persecution...
but sure, being gay isnt illegal...just showing it :^)

>>6418931
yeah im pretty versed with the european alt-right but the americans just take the cake...

>>6419003
Homosexual propaganda means positive coverage in the media, which isn't that much of an issue nowadays since almost of media became state-controlled. And the penalty was just some minor fines anyway.
More than that, the definition of propaganda is pretty blurred, I've seen films with gay characters on the main state TV channel.
Simply showing it is not illegal, but you have to be suicidal to do that, you'll just get beaten for it and the police won't protect you.
But the politicians aren't that homophobic and the only reason they passed that law was to get popular support and distract people from other issues.

>>6419049
>you'll just get beaten for it and the police won't protect you.
""""neutral""""

>But the politicians aren't that homophobic
didnt the interior minister or some shit like that call a lesbian by a slur on live TV?
where does homophodia start for you?

>>6418945
>/lgbt/ has shit all to do with Islam or any other religion.
Islam and other religions disagree.

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>>6418966
>ewww you're like so gross and scary!

Why do all libtards type the same way?

Can they not form original though?

>>6418902
>le trump is racist maymay

>>6419072
That's what a grey country on that map is, the government doesn't protect gays, but also doesn't actively genocide them. A green one is where gays are accepted, a red one is where you get arrested and hanged when your ISP detects you've been coming to /lgbt/.

>>6419100
found the guy who belives muslims are appropriating jesus
(honestly for a /pol/ jpg. this is an actual goldmine)

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>>6418966
I know it's really scary when people with different opinions express them, but try to be strong, ok?

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>>6418607
Aaaand there's the dismissal with a strawman.

[spoiler]I never said anything about importing or not importing them at all.[/spoiler]


>>6418657
That's because some right-wing ideologies, take libertaranism for example, are very pro-lgbt and that should be acknowledged. It's the authoritarian right I have a beef with.


>>6418633
>Who was Emma Goldman?
>Who was Daniel Guérin?
>Who was Harry Hay Jr.?
>Who was Lucia S Saornil and who where the Mujeres Libres?
>What was the US Socialist Party's gay right's platform?
>What was the LGSM and the alliance between unions, Labour and the gay rights movement in the UK?
>What where the Stonewall Riots and the GLF?
>What is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN AND DEMOCRATIC LEFT SINCE ALWAYS??
HURR DURR THAT I'M IGNORANT OF IT MEANS IT DIDN'T HAPPEN DURR DURR HURR

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>>6419118
What does that even mean? Are you implying I'm a Christfag?

>>6419106
not really, its about ratification of a declaration and a statement, grey is doing neither of those...
its actually a really specific map...and not about "acceptance" in the green countries...

like Georgia and Ukraine are green...are LGBT people accepted there? no...

The map is not really representative of legal situations or cultural attitudes...

>>6417934
Perhaps they're "thinking" that the killer must have been one of THEM, or he wouldn't have been in there in the first place.

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>>6419164
No its actually on that shitty jpg i replied too

>>6419137
nah its the fact that they cant tell the difference between individuals and groups ex be me be brown atheist all they see is some car jacking Hispanic Muslim , even though I am a libertarian and have a college degree and a job .

>>6419181
hell I come from a long line of brown people who's biggest issue in life was that they were not white and they couldn't accept this so they became try hards trying to be ultra white ex chasing top of their career fields over compensation through over education etc

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>>6416111
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>6416396
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This is what we get for deposing stable dictatorships. Muslims can only live peacefully under an authoritarian government. Nationalism gives them purpose. Left to their own devices they kill each other over petty things, which means more of them here and more of them killing our kind because our cucked leadership won't kick them out. You can blame globalist elites like Bush, Blair and Merkel for this mess.

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>>6416314
Are you retarded? The amount Christian terrorists and muslim terrorists aren't even comparable, how far do muslim sympathizers have to reach before they realize that that islam isn't infallible and you can only blame so much on Christians.

>>6418016
>I also just realize that mass importation of Muslims will ultimately be LGBT suicide. Do you really think the liberal politicians will care about you when they have an infinitely importable voting bloc that thinks that your lifestyle should result in you getting executed?
Which is further supported by the fact that western liberals jumped ship not that long ago. Historically liberals were the working class political orientation, majority of the supporters were members of the western working classes and the issues were western working class issues. But then, sometime in the 60s and 70s a shift happened and liberals decided that working class folk weren't cool enough or progressive/feminist enough for them and then the modern liberalism was born.

But, yeah, with free licence to bring in millions of new lib voters over the decades they don't have to give a fuck about LGBT rights long term. Personally I think liberal leaders are some of the worst, most hypocritical and bigoted people. But I also would honestly willing to believe quite a lot of them are secretly hyper conservative and actually want the society to revert back to Victorian or older social customs and are so importing shitskins.

>>6419643
>liberalism was the working class orientation
This has literally never been true. Classical liberalism was a bourgeois ideology. Leftism =! Liberalism

>>6418945
>/lgbt/ has shit all to do with Islam or any other religion.
Any poster that has the misfortune of living in a muslim country or a country that is fast becoming a muslim country has a great deal to care and worry about islam.

>>6419160
>>What is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN AND DEMOCRATIC LEFT SINCE ALWAYS??
Modern left is definitely heavily authoritarian. They want to censor everything, include new speech, control speech, deny the right of platform to their ideological opponents and so on. You can't claim you're oh so anti-authoritarian and then belch at the idea of someone you strongly disagree with speak, you just can't. Safe spaces are literlaly Stalinist and are one of the scariest developments in recent history I can think of. And that's now the mainstream left, fucking South Park mocked it. It doesn't get more mainstream than that.

>>6419680
Dude chill, he's not saying he agrees with those.

>>6419660
>Leftism =! Liberalism

Americucks are literally the only ones who can't get this right.

>>6419680
>Modern left is definitely heavily authoritarian.
You mean the modern bullshit that pretends it has anything to do with either classical leftism or classical liberalism, but is actually just an internally inconsistent jumble of various progressive-sounding positions with no depth or analysis behind them and scarcely even any connection between them? You mean the insincere, sensationalist crap that insists on making up stuff to get mad about 'cause it can't handle actual, real problems? That crap? You're going to dismiss all Leftism has done and accomplished because at some point some spoiled brats decided to ursurp the title "leftist" and start yapping about nonsense?

This is why I gave specific examples and specified I meant the anti-authoritarian and democratic Left. Just so that you wouldn't conflate it with this modern nonsense. But doing so is easier; it allows you to dismiss what is being said. It creates a false dilemma, where one has to either choose right-wing ideologies or this idpol pseudo-leftist crap. But in reality a lot of the true Left is still alive and well: some of it has incorporated some of the more rational idpol-ish ideas while some reject it more or less entirely.

>Safe spaces are literlaly Stalinist
The original idea was actually somewhat OK, if a bit philosophically inconsistent. But, like 'trigger warnings' which where originally intended to PREVENT censorship, the whole thing got twisted into something else. While "Stalinist" is a bit harsh seeing as no one is being sent to the gulags quite yet, it does both defeat the original idea AND stifle debate.

>>6419767
>not understanding how democrats have perverted the term liberalism to mean their neo version of Marxism
Learn 2 American politics. That's why we call the form of liberalism you're referring to as "classical liberalism" to distinguish from modern liberalism which is Marxist

>>6417261
Do you have any source on this or are you just saying this to stick with your narrative.

>>6417261
I mean, even if you put all terrorist attacks in only two categories: muslim and non-muslim, you'd still have at least 80% of all terrorist attacks be committed by muslims. Especially if you compare them by number of victims and the frequency per year.

I'd say Christianity and Islam both have pretty hateful, extreme-leaning people. What is it about religion that brings out the worst in people?

>>6419167
It's representative of the legislations the governments have or plan to pass. Ukraine and Georgia both had pride parades and there's been talk recently about civil partnerships in Ukraine.

>>6419160
>Here's a list of unrelated things in order to prove that we did in fact never lifted a finger to help you
Oh straight people.
You so funny.

>>6416009
They will be once they enter the EU and see first hand the multicultural Utopia is on it's way

>>6419421
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-alnatour/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000.html

> "According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims"

>>6421995
Sweden please

>>6422016
>unironically linking huffington post

ahahhahahahahahahha

>>6421989
>List of trans, bi, gay and lesbian socialist activists
>"straight people"
Oh stupid illiterate retards.
Yo so stupid, illeterate and retarded.

>>6419922
>modern liberalism which is Marxist
I got some bad news for you anon.

[spoiler]I mean c'mon guys how fucking hard is it to read a wiki page on Marxism?? Jesus have any of you even gone to school? How the hell do you say retarded shit like the above and not cringe?? No modern liberalism isn't fucken Marxist, you can't just lump everything you dislike or disagree with and label it with a confusing concoction of contradicting labels like "oh this is liberal marxist sjw islam!", it does not fucken work like that.[/spoiler]

>>6422155
I bet you're just a delight in your women's studies classes.

>>6422146
>trans, bi, gay and lesbian
That was literally what I was getting at.
Thank you for proving my point for me.

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Uh oh looks like the liberals are out in full force, protecting Islam and blaming whites and Christians and faggots. Have they demanded taking guns off people so fags can't even defend themselves against all the Muhammads they want in every neighborhood? Afterall guns are racist against Muslims. I mean come on it's current year and we need to start converting all churches into mosques

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>>6416111
Here are your moderates:

youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk

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>>6416923
>the head of the UN human rights committee.

Including Saudi Arabia decreases their isolation

>More isolation -> more radicalism
>More inclusion -> less radicalism

It works in the long run.

>>6422779

Adding SA to a useless UN body has no affect on their radicalism. They are a Salafist nation and have no intention of ever changing. They have a strong internal repression, tons of cover by world governments, and lots of oil money.

>>6419771
Not that anon but the "real" leftists passively accept the crazy lefitsts to make a fool of themselves and the left in general and that make them passive accomplices aka cowards.

About safe spaces...

>Integration was a mistake - MLK

>>6416314
build that wall.

>>6416111
he was a registered democrat

>>6417934
>>6419169
The term pervert it isn't necessarily sexual so being a massmurderer does technically count.

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>>6416314

>>6422016
>According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims
So what percentage are muslims in the usa are? Oh yes, less than 1 funking percent. And it was lower years ago. And that portion could create 6% of all terror attacks. That's at lewast 6 times more that the other people in the states (on average).

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>>6418756
Because when it's Christians it's not called a "terrorist attack."
It's classified as a "mental illness issue" or because of the person's politics or anything else BUT their religious beliefs and it's framed as really a tragic story about these poor misunderstood christians who didn't do nuffin and were so abused and alienated by mean old society that they had to kill people.

It's the same shit.

>>6418756
>But what does a leftist know about facts, facts are like krypton to a lefty.
So because he dislikes /pol/ like any sane person would he's automatically a leftist?

All I see in the left anymore is burnt bridges and smug self-satisfaction over a renaissance in censorship, guilt, and shame.

I have absolutely no faith in them at all.

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Destroy islam.

>>6432989
It's the same shit except that the muslims kill 10 times as many people in their attacks.

>>6433292
Thats what happens when you worship a warlord and a pedophile