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>>6415644

W-what? did he get mad? :c
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I luv dis pussy.

>>6415643
Then start off making something simple. A lot of folks start off making like a simple stuffed animal or pillow to get the basics of stitchwork.
>>6415644
Yeah, you might need to lay off for a bit.
Biking a lot is a good time-waster, and once you hit the runner's high, its a good time, plus helps you get super butt.
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im gonna stop posting and coming here. i'm shaving my head and detransitioning, everything is wrong. i can't handle being trans, i'm just as big a fuck up as i was trying to be a guy.
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>>6415659
Dis pussy luvs u 2
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>tfw you find out one of the greasy brony/weabs 2 grades below you from high school is transitioning
>tfw they are way shorter and will pass better than you will because they started in high school
>tfw they could be in this thread RIGHT NOW
>tfw you saw them playing magic before they were public and KNEW they were transitioning just by looking at them
not gonna lie I'm triggered as fuck
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>>6415659
yeah, i mean... i guess i should? maybe i'll pick up a sewing kit and a book today.

i just, i dunno, it seems like it'll be a huge time and monetary investment in order to get it together and it's pretty daunting. lol. like i have no idea how id do the embroidery or anything like that... id have to set up a good way to keep the skirt portion bouncy and to make sure that it doesnt just lie flat... etc etc.
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>>6415661
Whyyyyy? That's a sad thing to say. Why are you sad now?
Or are you havin a giggle?

Either way, if you're just as big a fuck up as before, how would detransitioning help change that? Here's what I think.

You feel like you can't do right, so the most apparent thing that people don't understand about you is the first in a long line of parts of your life you're prepared to destroy just to get approval. Ultimately, wouldn't it still feel hollow? They wouldn't know you still.

Of course, this is just how I would be thinking if I said that, which I have before.
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>>6415668
Keep your expectations low, you probably wont be able to pull this costume off well as your first project.

But if you stick with it you'll probably be able to pull it off and any other costumes you might want to cosplay with in the future.
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>>6415663
Obby.
So, still up for that arts?
>>6415668
Baby steps. Admittedly, you have a REALLY lofty goal right now. Look up some tutorials on youtube, there are a million, and maybe set your sights a bit lower for the time being. Also, what kind of sewing do you plan on doing? By hand, or with a machine? You'll get different results and speeds depending.
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I just got a fat guy's rocks off on omegle.
I feel like a slut.
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yass queen
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>>6415675
>>6415680
wew forgot to quote
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>tfw gonna have to be sober for most of the day today
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>>6415678
Wow, here I am just debating on whether or not coffee will hurt my hormone levels, and here you are being a super-achiever.
Why did you do it if you feel like a slut?
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>>6415685
Because feeling like a slut is good desu
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>>6415661
Hey, chill out...i knkw we arent the best of friends bt you've seemed to be doin pretty good.
>>6415685
I once took (erotic) orders from some lesbian chick and doing whatshe told me to do actually gave me the biggest orgasm of my life.
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>>6415680
>>6415683
Q-queen?
Wow, no one has ever said that before to me. Kinda blushing here. Now I'm not sure I want to because of how awful the picture I want messed with is. Well, uh... Here's the first picture. I want this face.....
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>>6415693
On this arm. Anything else you'd do to it would be gravy.
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>>6415655
No, nothing like that. We were just talking about the south(he's from Kentucky) and I brought you up because I worry about you.

>>6415659
I need to go to a bike shop and get my bike fixed up anyway, Ill probably do that soon. I intend to bike to classes next semester anyways.

>>6415684
Truly a fate worse than death.
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>>6415687
>>6415692
I've never had the chance to feel like a slut. Lost my virginity at 19 and haven't been with anyone else, even over cam.
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>>6415666
Some people have all the luck :c
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>>6415693
>>6415699
I'll get right on it~

>>6415703
It's pretty great, I mean if you're into that sorta thing

protip: you are

:3
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hm.

you know what though? that anon earlier is probably right. i dont think i have the face or body necessary to pull off a really successful, excellent cosplay, especially not one that demands a stick-thin figure and a solid whr.

not to mention that 2b has a very round face and i do not at all.

oh well sorry everyone im done shitposting about cosplay
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>>6415700
Yesssssss. Also, it might just be me, but I've noticed my natural estrogen levels go up if I bike immediately after taking spiro.
Its a shame, if you were anywhere near me, I could fix your bike for free. I love doing that stuff. It's like metal legos you can ride!
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>>6415700
oh ok and aww dw dw im getting a gun w a concealed carry permit soon so I'll b ok. but i do rlly rlly wanna move outta the South ><
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>>6415715
Don't compare yourself with drawings.
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>>6415715
nah don't listen to that negative nelly, just do what you want, you're v pretty and you can def pull it off!
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Dang I woke up this morning and I'm still ugly
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>>6415709
I just want a big semi-atheletic gamer guy to take me and pull on my hair while I'm ravished during a VS match of some fps of their choice.

Does that makes me a slut?
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>>6415719
Grats! What gun are you getting?
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>>6415704
I'm like the unluckiest person in the world, even outside of being cursed with trannydom
I'm gonna go cry myself back to sleep ;_;
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>>6415729
Yup!

>>6415728
Your vision is just groggy from waking up, you're actually a cute
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>>6415666
Do you play magic or just your week friends?
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>>6415715
AM SO JEALOUS OF YOUR SHOULDERS.
This is the only female character I could cosplay.
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>>6415741
*weeb
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>>6415715
ufufu teach me how to be pretty
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>>6415734
We could compare miseries.
I got raped on a schoolbus when I was five, and then my dad beat me for "being a fag".
Happy Fathers day!
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>>6415703
>tfw lost my virginity at 14
>tfw I'm a total slut
>tfw uggo slut
>>6415715
I still wanna cosplay raven
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>>6415755
she looks too happy to be raven
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>>6415715
Cosplay for you, not others. Its about expressing your love for a character/game/fandom/show/etc, not being the best.

>>6415717
Shit, I should definetly start biking again then. You aren't from the Southwest by chance, are you?

>>6415719
Ill definetly sigh with relief when you get out of the south, and yeah I know you're probably fine but I still get scared, you're like a double minority there. Lemme know when you get a gun, do you carry pepper spray or anything atm?
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>>6415736
Damn.

I still can't actually be a slut, tho. I'm 200 pounds of loose stretchmarked flesh. I was one of the kids that ate their feels. No one wants to touch this.
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>>6415762
Nope, midwest, Madison Wisconsin. NUMBER ONE FOR DRUNKS FIVE YEARS IN A ROW WOOOO.

I kind of hate the people here. Lots of rich college kids. Not much else to do but bike and drink.
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>>6415715
You should probably learn to brush your hair before you try to dress up in costumes.
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>>6415723
isnt that the point of cosplay though? it is for me. a really good cosplay is one where the cosplayer gets as close to the drawing as possible while still being 3d. imo

>>6415726
lol never stop doing this please it makes me laugh

>>6415747
my shoulders aint great at all :/

>>6415752
do ur makeup
thats about it

>>6415755
i used to really want to cosplay raven! i love her.

>>6415762
idk. see above.
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>>6415782
lmao
i literally brushed my hair right before i took that pic SORRY I GET FLYAWAYS JESUS H CHRIST
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>tfw able to walk around freely

Good morning mtfg
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>>6415795
>tfw paralyzed by anxiety
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>>6415791
>Ive never heard of a detangling brush
holy shit you arent even trying
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is phienchen sober now
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>>6415799
:(

isktf
Just general feels or something big happening?
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>>6415801
am i being trolled rn
i cant tell
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>>6415805
general mental illness stuff
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>>6415783
Is the point of cosplay really to pull off a character 100%? Even models who get boob jobs and shit can't get bodies as perfect as drawings, it's just unrealistic to expect to meet the standards of something drawn to be perfect.
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>>6415783
You only say that because you don't frequently run into doorframes with them, I bet.
Compared to mine, they're god damn amazing.
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>>6415642
Yeah
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>>6415808
I could ask the same question
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>>6415715
Part of cosplaying is to turn yourself in to someone else, and its great for us mtf as well since it allows us to hide our bad sides and turn them in to something good.
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>>6415783
I can keep doing it, but it's gonna cost ya more ufufu dollars~

>>6415693
>>6415699
Here ya go, it's rather shoddy work but I haven't slept and my current mouse is garbo so it's the best I can do atm

Hope it's good enough :3

>>6415766
Nah gurl you just gotta lose the weigh and start slutting it up! I've never thought stretchmarks were too big a deal, I understand not liking having them but I've never found them a deterrent tbdesu

>>6415819
I love you <3
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>>6415761
The original raven from the comics, before her revitilization through the teen titans cartoon, was totally different. She's confident and strong.
>>6415803
Pretty sure her brains been swimming in ethanol for years
>>6415783
Who do you wanna cosplay now
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>always put my hair up and wrap it in a silk scarf before going to bed (to protect my hair)
>woke up today; took off the scarf, but forgot to take off the hair tie
>walk into kitchen
>mom points and says "Oh no! He has a bun! He has a man-bun!" in a semi-joking tone that makes it sound like she's a little weirded out by it, but also finds it intensely amusing
>take the hair tie off and say "oh.... yeah"
>tfw

On a related note, I fucking hate, hate, HATE the term "man bun", and I don't get why people can't just call that hairstyle a bun, without the "man" prefix.
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>>6415730
hm not sure yet but it'll be a 9mm

>>6415762
no nothing honestly but I still look 100% male so I don't really have to worry about getting beat for tranny stuff
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>>6415824
;___;
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>>6415715
what the fuck is that thing above your lip
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>tfw just finished the Dark Tournament Arc in YYH
I feel empty and sad and happy at the same time how is this show so good?
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>>6415825
Because if it didn't have the word man in it, then you wouldn't feel manly while wearing one
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>>6415825
I know that feel, I usually keep my hair up in a bun and it l i t e r a l l y kills me a little everytime I hear the term used ;~;
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>>6415699
Work on your triceps, desu

>>6415823
:3
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>tfw family drama

HOW DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING
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the comedown is starting, I feel like hell
>tfw panting like crazy after walking 5 metres to the bathroom and back
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>>6415823
Thank you, it's everything I ever dreamed it would be.
Honestly, I don't like the idea of being a slut. I want someone, just one, person to share my intimate moments. I guess I'm still a bit of a romantic.
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>>6415828
Ooga booga booga
>>6415836
>>6415825
Man bun is worse than dead naming.
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>>6415825
Because men don't wear buns
So when men wear buns, it's a new and terrifying experience that makes people forget all logic and say "that man has a bun!" Instead of accepting that people have hair and do with it what they please
I don't think it's strange at all, I was completely confused the first time I heard "man-bun" because I didn't think it was an abnormal thing that needed a new name
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>finally dose off and fall back asleep
>get woken up for church

ok mad now
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>>6415846
Yay Phienchen is back to normal
*cuddles*
;___; we were worried
>>6415850
:S
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>>6415843
But I don't want muscles.... I want to be skinnier....
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>>6415831
It's called a nose, weirdo. Ufufu's nose is beautiful.

>>6415832
I hope you never get into the HXH mistake.
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>>6415846
*hugs* ilu take care
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>>6415856
so beautiful he gets called a man on /cgl/ and is too ashamed to post there now
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>>6415846
Fake germans or frogs?
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Have to go get money, thanks for everything!
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>>6415855
Oh! I thought you were showing off. Sorry :3>>6415863
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>>6415854
I am still high, but at least I can control myself now. sorry for last night.

>>6415853
good girl :3

>>6415868
I am rooting for fake germans
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>>6415823
that arm looks weak af desu
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>>6415863
What the fuck is /cgl/? is it one of those autist containment boards?
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>family drama
-__-
>>6415874
*cuddles lots*
;___;
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>>6415849
:3
Well you just have to be THEIR slut then~

>>6415850
yass
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>>6415882
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>>6415878
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>>6415878
We talking about arms?
I've got arms
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>>6415884
::::x

respond to me on skype bb
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>>6415692
we're friends, i just never talk to people because i feel like im imposing on peopple and theyre happier without me as part of their lives

>>6415669
im useless and the last 10 months transitioning and being out have been a mistake. nothing will make my body feel better. nothing will make me a good or worthwhile person. im scared for the future and i'd rather not deal with it so im just gonna stay in bed and cry forever
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>>6415863
ty anon ur right i am ugly and extremely manly and cosplaying is pointless

rip in peace
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>>6415889
soft girly arms ~ cute nails too
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>>6415874
Lol I <3 u
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>>6415772
Fukken bummer. My aunt just moved up to Green Bay like a year ago. It sounds cold as fuck, and I bet the weed is no good.

>>6415783
That's vanity, Ive seen fat Asukas that I loved. I'm just happy to see people expressing love of NGE, and that's what its really about imo. Like yeah you should get the costume as accurate as you can and crossovers are dumb but don't feel restricted because of your body.

>>6415826
That's true I suppose, you should start carrying pepper spray though, it has a lot less legal repercussions that using a firearm.
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I'm going to be out of spiro for a week but still have estro due to waiting for a delivery. How fucked am I?
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>>6415900
its ok, atleast the hons think you're pretty
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>>6415715
Well, if you ever change your mind, drop me a line if you want a first draft of a pattern to your measurements as a base to work from. I'm going to be way too busy in the coming few months to actually make a costume. But drafting patterns doesn't take that long and is a nice mind exercise when working from scratch on something a bit unusual.
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>>6415921
like I said, the hons love ufufu
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>>6415835
I don't need to do that though. I'm already such an alpha-male that my manliness naturally overpowers any of the "girliness" that a bun would bring. ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

>>6415836
yeah, the way my hair was, I'm not even sure it could be called a bun. It was more of a stubby-looking pony tail that sat high on my head, because I was trying to collect as much of my hair into it as I could.

>>6415850
agreed

>>6415851
yeah, I guess so.
( ._.)
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>>6415904
<3 <3 <3

>>6415881
<3 <3 <3
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>>6415909
one thing about the South is that they're gun nuts here. and since I'll have my permit there isn't any real legal repercussions if Uta used in self defense but pepper spray is nice I'll get some when/if I ever start looking girly
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>tfw STILL family drama

oh kill me senpai tbqh
>>6415934
no more drugs ;______;
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>>6415934
<3
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>>6415924
Actually, I kind of like the dress she was thinking of, even if it's something I'd never wear myself these days...
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>>6415940
Ill quit today.
already skipped the first dosage
its not easy tho, I still have 6g left

>>6415944
awwww~ :3
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Any people here have experiences staying at a hostel/shared room accommodations while traveling?

How safe is it for trannies to travel alone these days in a metropolitan area in a liberal part of north america?
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>>6415949
yay c;
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>>6415935
>Expecting a Southern judge to take the side of a black trans shooter
Ha ha enjoy having the book thrown at you
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>>6415950
Same as always. if you're a hon you will be killed, if you pass everything will be fine
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>>6415902
Thanks <3
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>>6415964
Okay then I will be fine since I'm more feminine and cuter than 95% of the cis girls.
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>>6415958
If you're any sort of minority you should always be wearing a bicycle helmet with a gopro wherever you go to prove what you say, like russia and dashcams.
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>>6415964
Not really, doing that as a pretty, lonely young woman is dangerous enough that most wouldn't. Not the same type of danger that a non-passing MtF could run into, but still.
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>>6415715
have you been told you look like a raccoon? or an owl?
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>>6415967
c: I want updated pics soon I bet ur really close to passing!
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>>6415980
No my arms have always looked like that
Even when I played lacrosse
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>>6415975
>Used to go on 3am walks around the hood and nobody bothered me because I looked gangbanger-tier
>Now girl can't do this anymore
>Scared to leave house alone after 11pm.
One of the few upsides to being male.
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>>6415986
s-still i just wanna see a newer one ~
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BUSTING THROUGH
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>>6415715
why dont you have boobs? your chest looks like a back?
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>>6416011
F R E S H M E M E S
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>>6415914
No very, just go a week without taking hormones. Its generally bad to take estro without spiro. Consider it your period.

>>6415935
I dunno going to court is scary, the person with the better lawyer decides the law in my experience.

>>6415988
>tfw town has light restrictions at night due to nearby observatories
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>>6416016
>>6415914
>Its generally bad to take estro without spiro.

no its not. DONT stop taking your E
E is also an antiandrogen. technically you could do HRT on E only if you wanted (just would need more, and its not exactly healthy to do this for years)
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>>6416016
>Consider it your period
lol
> Its generally bad to take estro without spiro
Ok I won't but why is it bad?
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>>6415853
I never understood this whole "waste up to 3 hours a week" for Church services thing.

Going there a few times a year makes it so that you don't automatically take it for granted at least.
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>>6416023
Ok now I'm confused
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>>6416015
oh shid
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>>6415988
Well, I don't have much reason to go for a walk at night where I live. Absolutely nothing to do in such a small village. And if I want fresh air, I have a nice walled patio anyway...
When actually going out for the night, it's usually with a bunch of cis girls that are as tall and intimidating as I am, so we don't really risk any trouble. One of those friends actually catcalls hoodlums for the lulz. And if push came to shove, I think it could be funny to compare what kind of illegal stuff we're packing. I usually have a switchblade or too ready... I know one of them doesn't even need to pack anything given how much martial arts training she has.
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>>6416034
Are trannies welcome in church? Haven't been back since coming out
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Is 6'1 too tall to pass?
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>>6415914
You won't get much T poisoning in a week. E will be slightly less effective and you might see a bit more regrowth in facial and body hair. I wouldn't worry too much. Just make sure to resume full HRT as early as you can.
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>>6416044
Ufufu is 6'2" and she's stealth
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>>6416044
No but it's a lot harder.
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>>6416027
Taking E without AAs is a lot less effective, that's the only reason. Not really dangerous.
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>>6416034
its only for like 2 hours a week. and it's for a spiritual recharge mostly. coffee for the soul. well that and learn stuff. it's not so bad im just tired and not going tiday
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>>6416043
Depends on the Church senpai
>>6416044
Unless your features are pretty much 100% feminine yeah
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>>6416054
Thanks for giving me hope Ufufu <3
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>>6416016
Tru Tru but ill try my best not to go to court for anything
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>>6416044
You'll attract more looks as a tall girl, so it makes it a bit more difficult to pass simply because of that. It's not a major hindrance, though.
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>>6416057
It's not really harder honestly.
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is 5'3" too tall to pass
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>>6416075
If you live in the Shire, yes.
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>>6416075
as a man maybe
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https://www.strawpoll.me/10526216
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>>6416023
Is this true? Im not an endocrinologist Im just going off what Im told. Ive been told that without andriandrogens your body will naturally convert E to T.

>>6416027
See above, I'm not certain now though. Phien might be right, sadly it sounds like you'll have to do your own research and decide for yourself.

>>6416044
Nawh, but its gonna be really hard.
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>>6416068
Ufufu's 5'5"don't get fooled
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>>6416087
>The only one 6'5''+
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>>6416064
Plus the extra hour you use to dress up and going there.

>>6416043
I don't know, depends on church I guess.

I'm European and the state church is against discrimination and all that. I only ever go there if someone either died, married or was born (and visiting graves, but that is not an official event). Maybe dropping by around Christmas, or for the summer ceremony.

So its kinda hard to tell when I don't personally interact with the Church.
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>>6416096
The over 6' tranny suicide rate must be nuts
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>>6416096
>>6416054
You have to pass to be stealth, sorry.
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>>6416091
>Ive been told that without andriandrogens your body will naturally convert E to T.

testosterone can be converted to estradiol, the opposite is chemically impossible tho
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>>6416091
>without andriandrogens your body will naturally convert E to T.

How would that work? Naturally the male body converts T to E as it doesn't produce it. Why would it convert E to T though.
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>>6416087
>TFW not 6' and get lumped in with 6'1" mega evolutions
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>>6416091
Other way around. Excess T is aromatized into E, but the body has no pathway for the reverse. Sounds like your doc skipped biochemistry classes...
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>>6416103
oh well if u include that. but yeah it's worth it. it's comforting to know I get to go to heaven when I die.

and hey if it all turns out to be fake I only lost a few hours a week I would have spent sleeping anyways. but if it is true it's dome sweet security
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>>6416091
It's mainly a lie endos tell to get trans women to not dose higher
The without aas thing is a thing I'd not heard tho, so I guess that's an original twist on it, but AAs were mostly not a thing like 20 years ago.
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>>6416097
Wait, you're 6'5"+ ?
Are you actually, or are you just memeing?
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>>6416129
I'm a big guy ;_;
6'7''
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>>6416087
>most trannies are above average height
That's weird
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>>6416136
>Most trannies *in 4chan* are above average height.

That's not weird anymore.
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>>6416136
Shocking. Could it be possible that this place attracts people who have more problems passing and with transition in general?
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>>6416136
Statistically speaking the average height for trannies should be the same as the average height for men.
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>>6416124
Er... I was using birth control pills that had cyproterone in the 90s and most high school girls had those because they work great against acne, you know... it's been available since the early 80s.
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>>6416110
Hm, I see. That makes sense. I was wrong then. Ill stop propagating what I said earlier.

>>6416115
Apparently it does not, I'm not a biochemist I was just going off what other trannies have told me.

>>6416120
Did I ever say my doctor said that? Fuck off, hon.
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>>6416155
It still wasn't used regularly for trans hrt tho afaik, like in east asia it was barely a thing ten years ago.

>>6416136
Probably all the late bloomers
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>>6416134
Oh wow, so you're even taller than me.

Do you feel like your height makes it harder for you to pass?
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>>6416164
Obviously I'm still eternal boymode after years of HRT
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>>6416136
I'd feel small at a /mtfg/ meetup, yeah. Then again, I feel small at rl trans groups too, so. I just sit with the FtMs.
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>>6416134
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>>6416171
pic? im super curious to see a girl that tall =0

>>6416161
ohh moapy did i ever tell u im dating someone from here? :3
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>>6416181
I look like a mildly feminised male thats 6'7''
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>>6416185
unsee plsssss ;~;
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>tfw your hometown is literally a meme
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>>6416121
I don't believe God created a whole universe for us explore and enjoy, and then just want us to sit down comfortably and think about it every week.

But that is my religion and I barely even follow that one by sitting on my ass 80% of the time.

However, if God did intentionally make me lazy, he would have wanted me to be lazy.
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>>6416171
Oh.
;~;

I'm only about 2 months on E, but yeah, I'm probably gonna end up the same way.
;~~;
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>>6416154
That's what I meant, the average tranny height according to that poll is above even the average male height. The average male height is 5'8" - 5'10" whereas the mode here is 5'11" - 6'1". Perhaps the median and mean is in line with the rest of the male population I don't know
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>>6416121
>Pascal's wager
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>>6416161
Sorry, I misread. From the flow of your post, I assumed that came from an endo. Which would sadly not even be surprising.
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>>6416075
yes
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>>6416196
desu i dont understand it completely either but it's where I'm placing my bets. the potential payoff is pretty huge and there's like no downsides so for me at least it's like what the heck I'll give this believing in God thing a go and see what happens.

but I'm not one of this crazy fanatic Bible thumper that try to bully everyone into converting either we are all just trying to find what works for us. so if that's working out for ya more power to you n.n

>>6416206
not familiar with the term m8
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>>6416216
Google it
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so does anyone know if there will be a casting for the walking dead soon? I wouldnt even need makeup to look like a spooky zombie
>tfw even makeup cant hide this
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>>6416216
Pascal's wager is an early example of risk assessment. Done wrong by using infinite values. Which sadly is still a common mistake if you look at, say... most bits of environmentalist propaganda.
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>>6416222
im worried for your health :(
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>>6416181
unsee dot cc/zomidena/
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>>6416224
I have never heard of this argument against it. Please elaborate
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>>6416234
WHAT IS THE POINT IN DELETING THE IMAGE AFTER 0.3 SECONDS????
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>>6416228
I am quitting today, no pills until surgery, so d/w
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>>6416224
>Pascal's wager
im a big fan of his triangle desu
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>>6416234
deleted ;;
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>>6416124
Huh, that must be where it comes from. That makes me angry, I can't even trust doctors anymore about this shit.

>>6416181
Oh, I'm really happy for you, who are you dating?

>>6416208
Sounds like you're right unfortunately, lying endos probably are the original source. I only saw my endo once for my initial prescription though, my physician is a nurse practitioner who's willing to continue filling out the prescription but didn't want to do the initial prescribing.
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>>6416241
im always gonna worry ilu too much not too. are you stopping for good now? >< and what is the surgery for?
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>tfw net too slow to upload pics

classic australia
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>>6416211
;_;
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>>6416248
quid is my gf :3
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>>6416257
im kidding of course dont be daft
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Why has it taken humanity so long to make a WW1 shooter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nRTF2SowQ
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>>6416256
Why do Australians always complain that their internet is bad? I thought it was a first-world country?
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>>6416235
Well, Pascal basically describes going to Hell as infinitely negative and going to heavens as infinitely positive. Which just makes the frame he uses pointless. Evaluating risk from a probability x outcome value is a good basis for decision making, though. It's simply completely useless if you arbitrarily attribute an infinite value to any outcome.
Besides, I'm pretty sure eternal life in Heavens is bound to get horribly boring. Especially towards the end. :^)
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>>6416256
>tfw i will never see kit's cute hair
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Im afraid to walk past cis women when im not in boymode.
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>>6416248
Sorry for breaking hopes. Honestly idk if it's trust or just not knowing, but I'm surprised it still gets spread around.

>>6416261
Probably the part where it was hard to make it be about Murka.

>>6416268
She'll tell you in a few days.
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>>6416289
i think i might know who ur talking about
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>>6416240
>>6416247
It was set to 10 minutes
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>>6416253
FFS in 2 months, fixing my face hopefully.

>are you stopping for good now?
I wish I could, but sooner or later Ill relapse anyway. its terribly hard to get off of hard drugs permanently
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>>6416281
its not so cute rn anon i slept on it and all my drills came out ;~;
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>>6416289
Yes
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>>6416297
>benzos
>hard drugs
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>>6416289
well why is she saying horrible things about you? are you giving her a reason?
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>>6416311
lmao
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>>6416311
benzos are pretty brutal desu. not like heroin or something..thats a different level. but benzos are pretty bad.
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>>6416296
i think some epic memer deleted it as soon as you posted it re-upload?

>>6416297
omg ur gunna be even prettier! I'm happy for you :3 pls dont relapse drugs r bad :(

>>6416305
oh. I would never date someone like that in the first place desu. like dragging personal relationship stuff to a semi public forum is in bad taste but to do it multiple times after being asked to stop is a deal breaker.

idk how damaged a person is we r all mostly adults here and communication is a basic relationship thing. if my partner that respect that one request then they aren't compatible with me at all. personality trumps looks every time
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>>6415642
nyaaaaa~~

>>6416311
dafaq
even if you were right, it doesn't have to be a hard drug for you to get dangerously addicted to it
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>>6416316
How do i get benzos? My doctor won't give me any.
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>>6416311
Not very hard when it comes to their effects. But the addiction and with some benzos, the OD potential, are definitely on the hard side. Quitting for surgery after a year on heavy doses of oxazepam and lormetazepam was physically nasty. Even if I'm used to quitting drugs cold turkey at this point...
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>>6416319
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>>6416325
i advise not to. theyre really easy to abuse and are pretty dangerous bc so.i driven for over 30 minutes on them with no memory of it. if you still dont care, just say anxiety.
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>>6416268
sharks keep biting through the cables obv.
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>>6416335
Is dihydrocodeine hard drugs? Because that's what I do now.
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>>6416325
Anxiety that devolves into catastrophic crisis moments. They mostly used them to prevent my catatonic bouts and also make it so I could have full nights of sleep since hypnotics alone went wasted as soon as I had a nightmare. Which happens several times every night.
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>>6416346
wat. u look like a geeky girl to me. u have really soft features ~
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>>6416359
It's more dangerous than codeine, yeah. So, definitely.
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>>6415898
If you ever need to talk I'm around, ok? Don't feel put out.
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tfw hangover
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>>6416347
well if youre hurting her you should find a resolution where you both can do your own thing without anyone else getting hurt.
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>>6416366
elannanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ;____;
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>>6416268
>I thought it was a first-world country?
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I wish i could take drugs and trip with all of u lovely ladies here. There needs to be a meetup at some point, assuming theres not too much catfighting potential. You know, trade tips, watch anime and argue over how much it sucks, things like that.
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>>6416366
tfw not hungover
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>>6416347
np np. im p sure ik who im talking to, and i cant say i blame u. its ridiculous that the same thing keeps happening over and over when its clearly only one party at fault. when it comes to relationships i try to be as unbiased as possible, but this one im thinking of isnt healthy in the shirt or long term imo. it'll be nonstop drama after drama until something gives dont feel bad (even tho u probs still will) some ppl just aren't compatible even if they do feel some affection for each other.

Skype me if you wanna talk in private. part of being such and old granny means ive seen alot in my life
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>>6416091
>Ive been told that without andriandrogens your body will naturally convert E to T.
The body doesn't know how to do the conversion.

What does happen without AAs is T will still do it's job, and try to masculinize you. The E, if in high enough dose, may be able to feminize parts of you that are not effected by T or DHT, like the breasts.

If you take E & P in high enough doses, T production is lowered or stopped in the testicles. This is one of the old HRT protocols. unfortunately it doesn't work for everybody so monitoring of T is critical.
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>>6416366
>alcohol
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>>6416372
I had too much to drink at the club last night ;;_____;
It was fun and the music was good tho, there were 3 DJs mixing the same set.

>>6416380
R u mlg?
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>>6416359
thats roughly tramadol level I think?, I didnt think tramadol was hard, the withdrawal sucked tho. what fucked me up is the psychological dependency on benzos cause Ive terrible anxiety as well.
also, cold turkeying benzos can literally kill you.


>>6416366
*highfives*
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>>6416361
But I dont
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>>6416378
/mtfg/ called me a beaner so I'm not meeting any of you people. Probably gonna be some white power meetup
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>>6415898
Come on now. Why is it a mistake? Everyone makes mistakes, but I cant believe that doing what you feel is right could be one. Is there someone making life hard for you? Maybe you just need some distance from them so you can feel like yourself again. And it may seem mean, but I dont believe anyone is a worthwhile or good person. People are just people, and sometimes theyre good for you, sometimes they arent. But the only one you should ever count on to always be good for you is you. Can you say youll feel this way forever? Or is it momentary sad? Either way, I wish I could hug you and tell you its okay to feel this way, but dont let it make you do something you might regret. You are worth your time and attention. You deserve to let yourself be happy and free to be yourself.
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>>6416412
its popstarahrii

>>6416409
i disagree :3 i wouldn't even look at you twice if i passed u in the mall
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>>6416380
Tfw johan is the mid for the best dota team ever
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>>6416408
I did tramadol too. Never got any withdrawal, it just stopped being effective. The trick is once a drug stops being effective don't take more, move on to another drug. For me it was tramadol then codeine then dihydrocodeine. Once this stops working may have to move up to actual heroin
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>>6416258
Nice, Im happy for both of you!
How long have you been together?

>>6416291
Eh Im glad its not the way I thought honestly. Im just mad doctors are liars.

>>6416378
Ok, but only if I can use you as a work reference. Having a member of law enforcement on my resume should help a lot!

>>6416391
Huh, well Im glad I recently started P then. Still on blockers though of course.

>>6416404
Did you do lewd things there?
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haha!
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>>6416414
If it's any consolation, I'm not white either by 4chan standards. I guess my looks are too Asian like. Well, when I was in India, I was called a chink more often than a firangi. I guess that's kind of telling.
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>>6416412
Just sounds like incompatibility. Sorry anon.
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>>6416428
ty bb <3 it's going on 3 weeks now I think!
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>tfw burnt to a crisp for being outside all day yesterday
I spend so much time inside I forget that sunscreen is a thing a lot of the time.
Anyway hi
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>>6416433
CAN WE SERIOUSLY TALK ABOUT HOW SEXY LINK IS IN THE NEW GAME
I HAVE SEEN NO ONE ELSE COMMENT ON THIS. I WANT TO DO THINGS TO THIS CHILDRENS GAME AVATAR.
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>>6416427
Don't, seriously, don't. I don't know why even the word heroin disturbs me that much, but it sounds like a death sentence to me.
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>>6416414
Thats just rude. Some people have no manners. I am sorry they called you a beaner. I get called a nazi just cause I have blonde hair and blue eyes. Not really the same, though.
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>>6416446
I dunno, game looked very underwhelming to me tbqh
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>>6416412
She may not be understanding how the process of creating and building a client base is done. It takes working with potential and current clients to create buzz.
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>>6416408
*high fives*
How's it going?

>>6416428
I don't rly do lewd things in clubs, I'm a pure maiden

>>6416445
Sup how was pride?
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>>6416446
The kids growing up with this are gonna be gay as hell and I'm on board
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>>6416014
my breasts are small and on top of that they're lower on my chest due to my having a long torso

thanks for noticing anon <3
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>>6416445
A bit of vitamin D really can't hurt when you're depressed. But yeah, sunscreen is good to keep in your bag if you burn easily.
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gooooood evening!
How do i get puke-smell out of my hoodie? I washed it 2 times already and the part were i puked on still smells sooooo bad help
>>6416445
hope you learned to stay inside
>>6416427
tramadol is fun, but i prefer opiates
btw never mix alcohol and benzos, i did that yesterday and i've never been more dizzy in my life
>>6416452
it's honestly not that bad
just stay in a clean environment and don't inject it, smoke it instead
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>>6416453
It is. You can be racist to whites too anon.
>>6416452
I'll try not to
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>>6416463
Who needs boobs
hahahajustkiddingiwishidid
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>>6416455
I feel split about the game itself. It looks suuuuper fun, i love all the exploring and the graphics are very good. There's a lot of changes to the zelda formula, apparent from the outset, but just because this zelda game doesn't do the same thing as every other zelda game, many of the replacements for those old conventions are still slightly generic.
But altogether, I'm excited. This looks like the game skyward sword should have been.
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>>6416466
tramadol is an opiate
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>>6416446
You're a fake person
You're not attracted to men
You are a transbian scum.


Why do you transgirls pretend to like men just to validate your feminity?

You don't just become interested in men just because you take HRT. Gays are filled with test and are still gay. You're all so illogical and retarded like real women.
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>>6416463
have the same problem tbdesu
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>>6416461
I am pretty embarassed cause I talked too much last night v_v
at least I am still pretty buzzed
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I'M SCARED THAT I'M NOT JUST LOOKING AT THIS THREAD DUE TO A WEIRD CURIOSITY.

I'M SCARED THAT I'M STARTING TO FEEL THINGS BUBBLE TO THE SURFACE THAT I THOUGHT I HAD PUT ASIDE A LONG TIME AGO.

I'M SCARED THAT I THINK I JUST REALIZED THAT I'VE BEEN GROWING MY HAIR OUT TO LOOK MORE LIKE A GIRL.

I'M SCARED THAT I'LL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH WITH THIS AND END UP BEING ESTRANGED FROM MY FAMILY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

I'M SCARED THAT THE ONLY INFO I CAN FIND ON THE TRANSITION PROCESS IS SJW-TIER SHIT AND PASTEBIN DUMPS.

[spoiler]29 is too late I'm doomed what rope will crack my neck the most efficiently[/spoiler]
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>>6416427
get help
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>>6416461
Legitimately the gayest thing I've ever been to. There were naked dudes in tutus and covered in glitter hugging people. But it was really fun. I'm glad you convinced me to go.
>>6416465
I actually don't burn that easy. This burn will turn into a tan by tomorrow or Tuesday
>>6416466
Yeah. I'm staying inside from now on.
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>>6416404
o naisu
being hungover sucks but im gald you had a good time elanna !!

>>6416461
>>I don't rly do lewd things in clubs, I'm a pure maiden
me too t b h
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>>6416473
tramadol is an opioide, not an opiate
>>6416488
good!
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>>6416469
But it's always african-americans that do it.

And they said they can't be racist. Why would they lie to me?
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>>6416427
>tfw went straight from alcohol to heroin.
Stay away from the shit. It's a killer.

>>6416452
It is a death sentence. Getting into rehab is only parole.

>>6416463
Just use breast forms. I need to find ones that work for wider chests.
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>>6416481
mercury cmon girl. just, cmon
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>>6416466
Chasing the dragon once was plain horrifying for me. I often feel I already died because of my depression. But what it brought to my mind was too specific for comfort. Seriously, never again. And even less so with needles involved.
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>>6416417
fuck off, hugs are disgusting and no-one should touch me ever
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>>6416500
just once like poser, right?
You can actually do it quiete safely, just for fun. Just do breaks inbetween. I take mainly opiates and opioids since 8+ years and my life is kinda on track
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>>6416492
>tramadol is an opioide, not an opiate

>being this pedantic
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>>6416481
Calm down and eat your tit tacs fellow degenerate

>>6416488
That sounds like a pride festival. :3
Glad you had fun

>>6416489
I wanna go clubbing with you ;~;

>>6416478
Awe, what are you buzzed on?
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>>6416500
"chasing the dragon"
lol you never took drugs more than once, just please don't give others advice of stuff you have no idea of
chasing the dragon... chasing your mom lol
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>>6416489
I don't even go to clubs. Am I a pure maiden too?
>pic of my super manly calf muscle.
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>>6416366
>tfw not allowed to drink

>>6416446
Link has been a qt sinse OOT tbqh
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is kato cool? other than her being australian of course
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I think that Rachel would be a fun person to talk to outside of here.

>>6416492
Tramadol is shit tbdesu. But that doesn't stop me from asking for it from my doctor on the 27th
>>6416513
It was fantastic. Only issue was I had 2 hours of sleep the night before and I took a ton of caffeine pills that wore off quick.
So how was your weekend?
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>>6416520
disgusting
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>>6416481
"Too late" is a meme. But you sound really upset. Advise talking to a shrink about this.
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>>6416522
All I know is, she's a bird
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>>6416513
>tfw been in a nightclub atleast two nights a week for the last four years

idk if it counts if im working thooo

also i would love to go out clubbing with you elanna ;~~;
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>>6416492
Interesting, learned something new
>>6416493
US race relations are FUBAR
>>6416494
>someone caring about Shakira's welfare
This is unusual.
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>>6416517
i was a pro at it
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>>6416513
>yaoi

yessssss more. this pleases the korra
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>>6416346
TRASHHU?
>>6416499
>>6416513
LET ME MEME IN PEACE
>tfw will never b a girl
>>6416521
I'm not supposed to drink either but I do it anyway sometimes
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>>6416524
yep
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>>6416506
Tell me, do you enjoy hurting? Of all the things I said, why was that the one you chose to respond to?
Are hugs disgusting, or is it that you just feel disgusting. Don't talk to yourself like that. Sorry if I offended you. I'm just concerned for anyone who seems to hate themselves as much as I do.
Here, have a picture of a local horse.
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>>6416511
is it a big difference?
IV morphine highs felt pretty much like a sufficiently high dosage of tramadol for me

>>6416513
progerstone metabolizes to a benzo alike, I took like 2g yesterday.
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>>6416524
>I think that Rachel would be a fun person to talk to outside of here.

<3 come to SF or LA fampai
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>>6416508
I was neck deep into codeine back then. But heroin took just once to know it would be my death. Felt like it already had been. But I guess that kind of feeling is hard to describe to someone who doesn't get them.
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>>6416525
That's super nice and helpful anon. Wow, you picked out my plainly apparent insecurity. Good job.
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>>6416551
Wait ur moving back to LA?
I missed that
>>6416526
But will I pass?
If I'm a hon then it's pointless
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>>6416553
i was just kidding, alright?
I can relate quiete a bit
>>6416561
you posted your hairy legs and wanted compliments or what am i missing?
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>>6416535
>tfw you will never smoke heroin with rachel
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>>6416541
Whenever I see you I always get reminded of my Destiny addiction last year.
>>6416551
<3
I wish. I'm poor as hell. My friends want to drag me to AX next year so it's a possibility then. Skype or steam or discord would work for the time being
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>>6416532
Kindness in general is FUBAR these days. I mean, look at this thread.
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>>6416476
I was bi before i transitioned
>>6416521
Nah dude. He has never been sexy until now imo.
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>>6416539
I doubt sneaking in a drink here would go down well.
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>>6416567
>Wait ur moving back to LA?

looks that way.
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>>6416521
Only a few weeks and then you can drink tho!

>>6416531
Yeah idk if work counts but at least you get to hear tons of nice music.

>>6416524
My weekend was gud, hung out with a friend, ate a stupidly large and delicious poutine, went on a good walk and went to a disco show. Now I'm jus hungover af

>>6416550
Jesus 2 grams of progesterone? What brought that on? Why?
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How does /mtfg/ dress when in boy mode?

Entirely masculine or some strong hits of femininity?
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>>6416570
rachel.lindstromm
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>>6416517
Well, heroin is one drug I only tried once, yeah. And I'm not ashamed of it given how that went.
And while I'm pretty much clean these days, my youth was a really different matter. I'm not going down that road again if I can avoid it.
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>>6416535
>half of /mtfg/ on heroin
Why are all trannies drug addicts?
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>>6416568
No, I was expecting something more than a one-word answer, though. Like, maybe a joke, or something clever at least. Seriously, is it that hard to think of something more than the typical knee-jerk meme phrases? Like, I KNOW they're disgusting. I more or less said as much already. Your response was as stale as Pepe's copypasta up there.

You could have said something like "Why bother transitioning, anon, it won't make you stop looking like a yeti"
Or, "Shave your legs, anon, you look like you're hiding sheep"
Or, "Holy shit I can't stop throwing up"

You know, something creative.
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>>6416586
That sounds eventful. I still kick myself every time for not having poutine when I was in Canada last year. I could help you cure your hangover, but I don't think you'd like it
>>6416590
Added
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>>6416599
>not numbing the pain of existence with substance abuse
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>>6416587
i havent done boy mode in a while but i'll do black casual pants with v-neck sweater over button-down
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>>6416599
life is pain
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>tfw you oversleep and wake up with a splitting headache
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>>6416578
Oh yeah
True
Can you leave yet ?
>>6416587
Like pic related
>>6416580
Well
At least the cost of living might be a little less
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>>6416599
been /clean/ for a year fampai
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>>6416586
Ive been abusing it for like 2-3 weeks, but tolerance is a bitch so I had to up the dosage every time to feel it
as for the why, see >>6416614
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>>6416608
do you comb your leghairs in the morning aswell?
just fuck off
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>>6416599
Not sure. I think my depression played a much larger role than my being trans. Can't see how the trans thing could have gotten me into ether abuse at 8, really. My dysphoria wasn't exactly a major issue back then.
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>>6416587
I hide under a hoodie if I can help it
I've really taken to wearing capris this summer, despite my horrid horrid masculine legs.
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>>6416570
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>>6416580
Why are you moving back to LA?

And why would you post pictures of yourself doing drugs on the internet?


I mean I did it once too but like most people have no idea what the fuck I am doing vs people know what you are doing. Picture is me faking doing stuff though.
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>>6416642
Hmm?
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>>6416635
No, I actually shampoo and condition them, then put curlers in them.
Are you just a dick cause you want to chop yours off? Or are you the internet police now?
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>>6416625
Not today but soon.
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>>6416599
>im fucking plying I have did opis.

I only tried weed, psychedelics , and alcohol.

Alcohol is the most dangerous one of those three lol.
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>>6416652
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>>6416508
More people die each year from prescription opioid OD in the US than die from car accidents.

>>6416535
Don't ever let yourself inject it. The high from it is intense, and creates a craving very fast. After the first time, snorting, and smoking it just didn't work anymore.

>>6416532
I'm unusual. Just ask CFH.

>>6416599
abuse/harassment leads to PTSD. Drugs like alcohol, and opioids dull or block the emotional flashbacks from PTSD. Vets also have the same problems with drugs.

On PTSD, my therapist feels that untreated dysphoria may lead eventually to complex-ptsd. I kinda concur on it.
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>>6416663
Hi
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>>6416638
Did ether once. Passed out and gashed my eyebrow. Blood everywhere.
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>>6416661
SOOOOON
So is a lot of the bandaging gone? Or are you still stuck into bed mainly?
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>>6416649
I remember you, you used to post in /r9k/ claiming to be a male who is "cursed by looking female"
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>>6416667
Hooray for PTSD! Making even picking out clothes in the morning feel like a live-or-die situation.
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There's a brit/lgbt/ thread now if anyone is interested

>>6416592
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>>6416677
kek

oh there was a lot of bullshit I used to do. I seldom even post on 4chan anymore. I mostly will post on /g/ once in a blue moon and maybe /k/ one out of three days. /mtfg/ is basically a once a week thing lately but had been maybe one out of two week thing.
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>>6416679
That's why I always wear pajamas and never leave. I let my friend pick out my clothes yesterday.
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>>6416671
h-hi!
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>>6416676
It's the main good thing, all the bandaging and other nonsense is gone :D
I'm feeling surprisingly great, honestly.
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I saw Nair for faces at the store the other day has anyone tried it? I'm afraid of chemical burns lol
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>tfw boys are pushy and horny
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>>6416667
>my therapist feels that untreated dysphoria may lead eventually to complex-ptsd
It kinda explains why so many trans girls are drug addicts.
But I hate saying that I'm traumatized for some reason, even if I get flashbacks to why I repressed on a daily basis.
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>>6416691
Lucky.
I have no friends.
Hahaha
But I prefer pajamas always if I can. I have two pairs of pajama pants and a super comfy baggy hoodie. Theyre so big I don't have to even notice my disgusting man-bod.
It's nice.
What is best pajama type?
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>>6416700
Is he gotta hold you down, maddie?
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>>6416692
How are you?
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>>6416711
>I have no friends.
Haven't had friends since I was 14, that's 10 years ago now
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>>6416711
onesie is best
but having nice pajama pants and a baggy shirt almost passes as normal clothes, so that's my go-to
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>>6416672
Well, I had that before ether. Fell down concrete stairs, slightly cracked my skull, woke up in what felt like a pool of blood upstairs. The upstairs part has disturbed me ever since. Why would have they carried me upstairs while I was unconscious and bleeding?
Got into ether and self-harming after that.
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>>6416711
I have just one actual friend. It's nice because she likes me even though I'm a huge bitch.
Pajamas are the best and I think that flannel pajamas are best.
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>>6416713
I hope so
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>>6416714
Dandy I guess.. how are you Lizzy?

>>6416729
good girl
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>>6416727
Never felt comfortable sleeping with any kind of pants. So usually, it's satin dressing gowns for me.
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>>6416700
So, what's new? Also they are always ready. lol Even when 59, have a wife and kids plus two other mistresses.

>>6416708
More reason to treat transgenderism as a juvenile.
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>>6416718
Wow. I can't even imagine. I had friends, but they left after I told them I wasn't gonna take shit from them about being trans any more. No idea why I put up with it as long as I did.
>>6416721
Yissss, but hoodies more than shirts for me.
>>6416727
Aww, you don't seem like a huge bitch to me. At least not worse than me.
I've never had flannel pajamas. that sounds comfy as fuck.
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>tfw you want to go out tonight, get drunk and maybe go watch game of thrones at a friend's house
>it is father's day so I have to stay home

;_:

At least my father is very supportive of my degeneracy. It is fucked up that I am becoming just as big of a gun nut as he is. I can talk to gun nuts now and know what the fuck I am talking about.

>>6416700
>tfw you might go to sf to meet a friend
>some how you kind of already have a date with a guy from /k/ in sf if you go
>tfw having a date with two guns nuts in sf is going to go real well.

I should wear a maga hat
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>>6416736
Not much, been going kind of crazy because all of my friends are away and I'm poor af rn. How are you?
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>>6416732
I'm alive, so I guess I'm good. How was your weekend.
>>6416734
I tried that and it was uncomfortable for me. I just don't think I'm the type to not wear pants.
>>6416743
My internet persona and irl personality are vastly different. The way I describe myself to others is I'm more or less House without the vicodin addiction.
They're extremely comfortable. You should get some.
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>>6416736
Eww, what self respecting girl would date a 59 year old man with a family and two mistresses?
Wrinkly old man balls.... Makes me wanna throw up.
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>>6416745
Melly!

>>6416751
Nothing. Just stayed indoors... .__.

happy fathers day though~! .__.
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>>6416745
Being a gun nut helped me fit in at work a lot... Being the local armorer was part of my first position.
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>>6416736
I'm thinking about what I want to write to my HS health teacher. He's trans-friendly and even did a unit on it, but his unit was on hon culture, so it made me repress for another 3 months before accepting it.
His unit was my first exposure to trans people, and I'm guessing I'm not alone in that.

You have any recommendations, beyond encouraging and explaining what AAs do?

>>6416743
I mean, I'm so selfconscious of my girly arms that I used to wear sweatshirts in the summer.
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>>6416761
I went to pride and got burnt to hell. Inside isn't bad. It's. A lot cooler inside. Or warmer if you're in the southern hemisphere.
Happy Father's day to you too I suppose.
>tfw even if I didn't transition I would've never been able to have kids.
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>>6416761
I have no idea who you are?

pls explain fast because I need to go do father's day shit.


>>6416768
>being a gun nut in San Fransico
that is like being a tranny in a small town in the bible belt.
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>>6416751
Oh, my irl persona is totes different too. I mean I talk the same.

Just much much less.

The spacing is kinda representative of the space between thoughts that I have when speaking. It's not really intentional. I used to self-harm by beating my head against walls, and now I'm pretty stupid. And easily frustrated into complete silence.

I def will get some. But right now I'm wearing these baggy jersy sort of cargo-capris. Thery're hideous, but super comfy and can hold my 2ds, my phone, my wallet, and like 3 knives.
Don't ask about the knives.
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>>6416775
I'm so self concious of my manly arms that I still do!
High five!
>>
I'm gonna jot down a few more jobs in my work search diary

Signing on tomorrow

>>6416755
Sometimes it's just nice to have someone
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>>6416780
It's Oryx....
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>>6416789
thats a great picture

>>6416793
I just ate.
that was a mistake
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>>6416793
oh shit damn I blacked out real hard lol

acid might have burned too many brain cells.


Well fuck hey girl?

Still have my skype? If so just send me a message. I should be on later.
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>>6416780
Well, I was stationed near Verdun and part of the most macho government agency we have outside of the military proper.
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>>6416780
Dude!

>>6416778
>tfw can'/t have kids

ah well might as well man up and lsiten to what Robin said last night!

https://youtu.be/_AUG1YEUuGw
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>>6416723
Maybe there was a bed upstairs? i dunno, I wasn't there.
>>6416688
So what do you do with your life instead now?
>>6416755
>not being into older men
59 is too old for me though
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>>6416808
Gendarmerie?
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>>6416798
Oh?

You're feeling ill?

>>6416804
(I'n not Oryx, Wandering Oryx is Oryx...)
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>>6416631
;~;
That seems like such a dangerous way to get a buzz though. Are you doing ok?
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>>6416784
Yeah. I've become mute in my everyday life unless it's absolutely necessary. So I get that. My self harm was cutting and I beat my head against the wall sometimes too
I'm wearing shorts right now. I wish it had pockets.
>tfw sold my ps4 to buy a 2ds and I never play it
>>6416798
Hi
>>6416811
Well I'm sorta intersex and stuff so it's totally impossible.
The music is pretty neat.
>tfw can't go swimming because my mom isn't supportive and gets mad when she sees my boobs
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>>6416792
But you don't "have" them.

If anything, that kinda proves that they have you, and not the other way around. Please don't take this the wrong way, but they don't need you. They have three other women in their life, and they're using you just like they're using them. Why let yourself be treated that way? You deserve better.
>>6416798
I know, I fucking love it.
What did you eat? I mean, after a night like you had, should only eat, like, crackers and shit like crackers. Are you properly hydrated? Gotta keep up the electrolytes and water if you wann feel good. Especially with a summer like this.
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>>6416727
>>6416734
Sleep with clothes on??? Never could...

>>6416748
trying to wake up, and dreading bailing hay all afternoon.

>>6416755
He was worth almost a $billion at the time, and OH GOD!!! did he know how to make me feel like a woman.

>>6416775
I'd have him talk about the work with early transition that is going on. Part of that should be that the very early transitioners get to live their lives as their desired genders, thus get all the proper socialization. Also mention the studies backing this up.

There are also many very successful transitioners. He could talk some on them too. I'm not just talking about the entertainers, but people like Lynn Conway who is responsible for inventing the out of order instruction execution method used in most modern computers.
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>>6416813
Nah, simply woke up on the hard floor at the top of the stairs. Sometimes I can't shake off the feeling I died then. Which makes 1986 one of the weird points in my life.
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>>6416826
>intersex

dam...
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>>6416813
I like older guys, but early 40's is my limit. i'm in my 20's. I don't want someone literally the same age group as my dad. I hate that guy.
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>>6416813
drink, drink more, go around visiting friends on the west coast in different cities, do lucy and hanging out with some people in LA. I got a decent job offer in phoenix, but idk I don't think I am going to take the offer despite it being a decent job. I hate that fucking city more than one can know.

Oh, speaking of traveling around the west coast

I might go to sf on Thursday but not 100% for sure yet. It got pushed back a week and might get pushed back another. I am for sure going to be in seattle the weekend of the 16th. I will be in Phoenix some time in july too.


>>6416819
yeah I know

>>6416811
hey see >>6416804


nice to see you again. I have to get off soon and do father's day shit btw
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>>6416830
I get uncomfortable naked. It might be due to never having privacy at any point in my life
>>6416839
Yeah, it's certainly something.
>>
Is titchbits really detransing? Wtf
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>>6416826
I pretty much compulsively play Pokemon Y so i can pretend I'm not some gross girl stuck in the body of a man-thing.
I never buy shorts or pants without pockets. My mom made me appreciate the value of clothes with pockets by basically complaining at clothing stores about how so few womens clothings have pockets.
>>6416830
Hmm, different strokes, I guess. I always loved the pagan stoner type of guy more. God, my first crush was on a straight school friend who played really cheesy love songs on his guitar all the time. He was also the one who got me smoking the first time
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>>6416700
Not iPhone
U CANT B A GRILL WITH ANDROID REEEEEEEEEEE
is the guy hot?
>>6416698
Ahh that's awesome!
Not having a dick has to be so nice @-@
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>>6416856
They seemed pretty upset when i suggested they wait it out and see if they still feel this way later before doing something rash, so..... Who knows.
Maybe they were just mad that I wanted to hug them to make them feel better.
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>>6416856
I doubt it, she's just having a bad day.
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>>6416840
>tfw you have kissed or did lewd with guys around your same age as you. The highest was 10 years older than me. I think the youngest was a year younger.

>tfw all transgirls you have been with have been younger than you

;_:

At least I was shorter than all of them.
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>>6416817
Nah, they're fully part of the military. Well, used to be until very recently. Forest service. Where many ex-légionnaires and other military types go for wages on top of their pension once they retire from the military since the degree requirements are waived and a large number of field positions used to be reserved for them. And the uniform, I guess. Hard for some of them to give up on that after retirement, and the forest service is one of very few noncombatant corps that uses military style uniforms. There was a large protest movement when the ministry considered switching to police style.
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>>6416843
maybe skype.. I might have it... I dunno I don't use it much.. ._.

>>6416844
>tfw mom said boobs look normal despite being wide and pointing outwards

why es your mom not supportive though..

>>6416856
environmental pressures? .__.
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>>6416819
well Ive felt ill all day, but now its even worse v_v

>>6416824
was way more than a light buzz tho, like, blackout level. I lack a few hours from last night.
and yeah its pretty dangerous, I took about 1/3 of what would be ld50 for my weight I think, I just hope my liver/kidneys/tummy dont explode now, kinda feels that way tho. the shaking is more annoying tho

>>6416827
>What did you eat?
pasta.
yeah I probably should have but hedoesnt know and Id prefer to keep it that way.
I drank some water and a cup of cappuccino. I feel like a truck hit me tho, everything just hurts. even sitting requires concious effort. at least the cramps got better
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>>6416699
Check it out and try it on a really small area of your face
I've used it all over my body and never had any issues
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>>6416860
>.<;;; he is a silver fox. 6'2", handsome, 43 years old, fit. I can see his abs flexing while he's fucking me and it is so hot
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>>6416869
whelp fags I will be off. I am going to go to the market and get stuff to make my dad waffles with strawberries for father's day. I wanted to take him out to eat but he wants to stay in.

>>6416873
ummmmm my skype is mudkipz911

I should get a discord lol but I don't really play video games anymore. fuck
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>>6416857
I sold all my 3ds games forever ago. Only one I have now is Persona Q. I do have Pokémon Yellow though.
Yeah. I noticed that about women's clothes. Which makes the argument to use purses more relevant.
>>6416873
She's convinced that I'm still her son, even though I wasn't. She thinks I'm going to change my mind.
>detransing with c cups ever
>>
>>6416869
Hey, at least you have something to look back on. You know how many people I've been with sexually that weren't rape?
One.
And one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do.
>>
>>6416874
Poor thing... I just want to wrap myself around you in a hug...

It'll get better. Tough it out like a good lass.
>>
Speaking as a masochist,
Wow epilating is painful
>>
>>6416699
I've tried Nad's on the rest of my body and it was fine (very strong smell though)

But it will vary, some people have bad reactions

>>6416882
>physical 3DS games
Hack that thing right now
>>
>>6416888
I wish I were patient enough to do that. I really want to though.
>>
>>6416830
>Part of that should be that the very early transitioners get to live their lives as their desired genders
he's not that well educated on the matter, really. I'll mention that the socialization gets easier the earlier you transition for sure. Do you think I should list all the things that could potentially change with bad genetics during and after male puberty?
>>
does boob massage help?
>>
>>6416874
At the very least get yourself some gatorade or vitamin water, girl. You threw up a few times last night, didn't you? You need more liquids that aren't diuretic. That coffee is gonna have you cramping up again real soon if you don't.
Source: I drink like 5 cups of coffee a day.
>>6416882
Pikapika.
Well, honestly if transition was going smooth for me at all I wouldn't indulge in that sort of escapism any more either. I wanna go hiking with a qt 3.14guy/grill and a doggo while we sing songs and smoke ganja.
But I only want to do it again if I can look how i feel inside.
>>
>>6416893
yeah, it takes like a day

There aren't that may games for the 3DS but it's better than having to buy stuff

With Pokemon Sun/Moon coming out, you're going to be saving at least £30 so make the time between now and then
>>
>>6416898
Yes.
>>
>>6415715

Fufu is beautiful, but also a spooky porcelain doll.
>>
>>6416898
try it :3
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>>6416871
Really? I always thought the forest service was full of hippies I mean it's literal tree-hugging.
>>6416843
>friends
>angry_pepe.jpg
>>6416869
I have zero interest in men my age
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>>6416900
How2hack? I thought the firmware on those things were too tight to manage that.
>>
>>6416899
I know the feeling. I watch movies to escape.
>tfw no bf to hike with
>>6416900
I probably will. Is freeshop still up?
>>
>>6416789
woo!
>tfw your hands look huge because tiny wrists
>tfw your hands are actually smaller than average for a guy, but still huge proportionately
>>
>>6416899
>You threw up a few times last night, didn't you?

no I didnt I think, at least I cant remember it.
I did walk into a door tho I think. and I know we watched some show, but I honestly dont know what happened there
>>
>>6415715
You're pretty overrated and ugly.
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>>6416904
Her eyes used to spook me, but I know why now...

>>6416909
Nah, it's really about tree-cutting, here. And hunting.
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>at work
>super busy and have to do the shittiest stuff i could be assigned to do
>obsessing about everything people have criticized me for appearance-wise today on mtfg
>havent had food since 7 last night
>still want to do that cosplay but hate my body
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>tfw you have a lowkey nightmare where everything's completely normal and unremarkable but your boobs are deflated and saggy
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>>6416929
Did you really let that anon get to you so much?
>>
>>6416911
Depends...if you've updated to the latest firmware you're screwed

If not then...https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki

Fortunately I let mine gather dust for year since I didn't play anything other than Pokemon

>>6416914
Freeshop is up but it's still slow af
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>>6416929
wasn't it just like one anon? you look great ufufu honestly
>>
>>6416481
I hope 29 isn't too late, that's when I started.

(30 now, I don't pass now but even if I never pass it's definitely been worth it for me, I feel a lot better on HRT.)
>>
>>6416935
It's hard not to tbqh
>>
>>6416914
I would just be happy to have a regular friend to hike with at this point.
>>6416915
My hands are like shovels, and my wrists are huge. I know that feel.
>>6416920
Well, it's not like I have a good memory anyways. Just take care of yourself, you know? I know you do.
I'm sorry. I get kinda mother hen when I feel concerned about even tiny tiny things that aren't my business.
>>
>>6416929
Well, making it work with your body would be a good way to get over that, I think...
>>
>>6416550
I'm glad you're alive and posting today after that, honestly. Keep to your promise and stop abusing progesterone for the next two months at least.
>>
>>6416937
I figured as much
>>6416942
If you're in Ohio I'll go hiking with you.
>>
>>6416940
Well, I had my doubts but restarting at 35 has worked for me well above my expectations.
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>>6416937
Shit. Guess I'm fucked.
Oh well.
>>6416929
Ufufufufufufuf.....
Go eat something, your 'mones are gonna be out of wack cause of that.
At least take solace in the fact that you aren't the only one who has a horrible shitty job where you can't truly feel like yourself. If an ugly chud like me can make it through, a cutie like you surely can. I believe in you!
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>>6416930
>tfw you have a low-key nightmare where you're boobs are barely boobs and you look like a man and its not a nightmare its real life
>>
>>6416950
My little sister used to live in Ohio, but nah, I'm Wisconsin. Literally no one on MtFg lives around here it seems.
>>
All memes aside I think robins better looking than ufufu.

At least robin looks real where as ufufu just uses angles and lighting
>>
Shameless advertising of Irish youtubers.
Because god damn This guy is funny.

Also demonstrating that the Irish are only ever better at videogames when drunk.

https://youtu.be/yV4zUmEN2rQ
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>>6416961
>>6416930
Stop narrating my life!
>>
>>6416962
It's the same thing with Ohio. Theres nobody from here but me from Ohio.
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>>6416929
tfw havent had food besides two mcds burgers because you hate yourself and you cant stop focusing on that over the pain of not eating much at all for days
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>>6416930
Horrifying.
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>>6416977
*in the last two days
>>
>>6416930
>tfw you have a nightmare where you were a girl until 15 and instead of becoming a woman you turn into a dude and you have to live with that for the rest of your life
>>
>>6416988
At least your dream self had a girl childhood.
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>>6416975
The midwest kinda sucks, huh? Like, there's you in Ohio, Grace in Chi-town, and me in Madison. It seems like a ton of other girls from the general meet each other, but no chance in the midwest, cause

farmland. Damn flyover states.
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>>6416942
>I get kinda mother hen

<3
are you the anon that said yesterday they 'talk too much to me'?

>>6416949
>I'm glad you're alive
I am not, but I was pretty sure I wouldnt die, I was just really high (I still am not sober). and I feel super embarassed cause of all the personal stuff I brought up. I keep this shit to myself for a reason usually.
I actually considered not going online anywhere today, but I didnt want people to worry, so I guess I am posting.

as for quitting, I already skipped the initial dosage today, so so far, I am on track I guess.
its hard tho, having 6g sitting here and stuff.
>>
>>6416992
Yeah it sucks hardcore. I hate it.
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Damn all of you sad girls not eating and stuff. This is why I want to make a soup kitchen for sad trans girls, my ex is exactly the same way.
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progress?
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>>6416999
who /weight loss/ here?

>Current weight

>Goal weight

>Time and weight lost since you committed to your current deit

>>6416958
Don't worry
It's a pretty active scene, it'll be completely hackable eventually
>>
any pics of Phienchen?
>>
>>6416993
I remember saying you remind me too much of myself. Just, you know, the self loathing is kinda same same for a lot of girls on here though.
>>6416998
I'mma get a vw hippy bus someday and fly out of this place. Just you wait. Anyone who wants to ditch the midwest is welcome to come along.
>>
>>6416813
>>6416840
He was even on the old side for me. Usually I was up to +20 of me. My youngest was -16 when I was 34.

>>6416844
Understandable. I've always had my own bedroom and those I'm comfortable letting into it, I'm comfortable with them seeing me naked. of course I did routinely go to a nude beach in my development when young.

>>6416857
Where I grew up was a resort community on the eastern end of Long Island, NY. Rich people were everywhere.

>>6416887
Great for taking care of those self harm urges...

>>6416897
Likely a good idea. Also links to good sites on the web. UCSF has a good medical site for transgenders.

>tfw time top bale hay.
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>>6417012
I am a hon

>>6417006
114 lbs

99 lbs

3 months, 6 lbs
>>
>>6417006
im nervous to say my weight but i am losing weight rn and i just reazlied i lost like 9lbs so far so im really happy w/ that
>>
>>6417006
I'm at 75 kg. Aiming to get back under 60. Started a couple weeks ago from 78. Should be done in September, I think.
>>
>>6416993
theres always a good to keep.personal stuff to yourself so dw senpai

I dont usually post it here either, although thats because most of the people i know are from here

I used to drop trip just to sadpost sometimes, when I actually had one
>>
>>6416993
I know you've wanted to keep what you've been doing hidden from your bf but you seriously might consider giving the pills you have to him for safe keeping / being given out at the right rate (I don't know if you're supposed to be completely off of it for the next two months or just back on regular dosages).
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>>6417006
>current weight
200 lbs. i know, big fat fatty.
>goal weight
130 lbs? I've got a long way.
>Time and weight lost since you committed to your current diet
Well, 6 months, and I've lost 65 pounds from 265. Hiking 14 miles to work every day during the winter really helped, but now i got excess skin where the fat was....
>>
>>6416984
>dat gif
omg, I thought that was bread dough at first -.-

>>6416991
just because I was a girl doesn't mean I didn't act like a total tomboy ;__;

>>6417019
I'll probably mention Mazzoni as well, since that's the local trans IC place.

and fuck Pitt, I need to get my name legally changed in order to get it changed in the registrar.
>>
im pretty much anna but i wish i could just get to 100lbs. stupid bones...
>>
>>6417019
Ah, that makes sense. I grew up in the rural farmwastes of northern Wisconsin. I never really had money, or knew anyone who did.
>>
>>6417006
>>Current weight
165.5lbs

>>Goal weight
130

>>Time and weight lost since you committed to your current diet
15 days and 6lbs


>>6417025
>losing 15 kg in 3 months
>putting on 15 kg in the first place
not sure which is more shocking

>>6417033
Well done and keep at it
What you've already accomplished is very impressive
>>
>>6416874
Jesus, that's awful.
Please look after yourself today. Get some fluids in you. ;_;
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>>6417006
>Current weight
15 st, 7 lbs (217 lbs)
>Goal weight
9 st (126 lbs)
>Time and weight lost since you committed to your current diet
2012 I was 17 st, 7 lb (245 lb).
>>
>>6416882
>c-cups

post photos

>tfw forever b-cup
>>
>>6416999
well just not go to it

otherwise wed be going to actual soup kitchens

>>6417006
im not trying to lose weight but im poor af so im back to eating only one or two meals a day

I was trying to gain weight, and I used to be 135, but im 120 right now
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>>6415668
>i have no idea how id do the embroidery or anything like tha

shit, I imagined you already kinda knew fashion.. ._.

>>6415715
just loose weight and pur effort n such

>>6415723
>Don't compare yourself with drawings.
>>
Is it true that your breasts will be 1 or 2 cup sizes smaller than your closest female relative?
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>>6417047
Thank you, I am pretty happy with it. I've actually kind of devoloped a bit of an, uh.... fixation on biking recently. It seems to get me somewhere that chronic masturbation used to. Plus it's making my hips get svelte.

Sorry if that's TMI.

Its pretty cool that you're much closer to your goal than I am. i'll be rooting for you!
>>
do any of you get cramps from estrogen?
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>>6417002
>race: white
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>>6417066
frick yeah biking!
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>>6417052
I am with you there sister. If I can drop near 70 pounds in six months i know you can do it too.
>>6417057
I know. I have a bad habit of trying to meddle where I'm not wanted or necessarily needed.
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>>6417027
yeah ;~~;
life is tough

>>6417029
I am quitting completely for 2 months I think, but Ill end up on them after again anyway. I am not so delusional that I think this level of addiction is beatable without immense effort on my part.

>>6417051
I dont mind the physical stuff this much
I am way more disgruntled over sharing this much stuff desu, Ive posted high/drunk before but nothing like this has ever happened. guess someone poked a few weakspots
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>>6417067
you have gas, eat better
>>
>>6417067
intersex get out
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>>6417081
Nice, you know what I mean. It's a great way to chase out the demons, so to speak.
>>
>>6417047
I gained that weight when I had to quit tobacco and most psychiatric drugs before SRS. I was at 53 when I got locked up. 58 would look good on me. I could lose that weight faster if I tried, I'm just going to play it safe.
>>
>>6417034
I'd be thrilled to have been a tomboy though, tomboys are awesome. I don't really have a problem with how 'boyish' I acted as a kid, my big issue is that once puberty started I got super uncomfortable with my body and didn't really know why. I guess my main thing is if I knew for certain what being female felt like I could have been more certain that what was wrong with me developing as a male, and maybe done something about it earlier. Maybe, who knows.
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>>6417006
>current
143

>goal
120

>time/starting weight
200/ 2ish months
>>
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>>6417084
theres another way to meddle?
>>
>tfw love gf more than she loves herself
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>>6417122
trip on my gf
>>
>>6417006

>Current Weight
140

>Goal Weight
125

>time and weight lost since you committed to your diet

I don't diet fampai, i have the metabolism of a racehorse. if i want to lose weight, i just stop eating out and cook my fried chicken and steak at home
>>
>>6417081
I really need to start using these softwares. Any recommendations. What I've been doing is do the ride then plug it in on google maps after for distance. My longest ever ride was 63 miles from London to Cambridge.
>>
>>6417108
Probably, yeah. Growing up as one of the girls definitely made it so that when puberty I had no doubts whatsoever about altering my looks and voice and taking pills as soon I was free to do all that. And moving out of my parents' house for high school made it possible.
>>
>>6417017
I'd be on board in a heartbeat
>>
>>6417084
I keep yo-yo ing that's why I've averaged a loss of 28 lbs in 5 years. I am one of those people who comfort eats when depressed.
>>
120 lbs here, bmi 16ish

I'm actually waiting until estrogen kicks in so that my weight goes to all the right places :3

>>6417108
If I had known that wanting to be a girl is a symptom of being trans, I would have pushed to start hrt around 5th grade. I just didn't have the conviction to be a deviant.
I mean, fuck, all my friends at the time knew I was basically a girl, and treated me like one even though I didn't dress like one. The adults were the ones that couldn't tell.

It doesn't help that my sister cut her hair super-short when she was little because she wanted to be like me. I still can't tell if this is a result of me being a transgirl and giving her weird expectations, or that she's a repressing transguy.
My whole family's a little fucked up gender-wise. Both of my sisters are tomboys.
>>
new thread

>>6417142
>>6417142
>>6417142
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>>6417131
strava is great. tracks speed, heart rate other stuff too im sure. elevation? theres leaderboards also. makes it fun. ive got queen of the mountain on this huge hill down the road.
>>
>>6417084
Same here. If you move all the time though, like standing and walking and running for every hour youre awake it evens out though.
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