NO HUGBOXING ALLOWED be brutally honest and give criticism

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30 almost 31 years old mtf

>>6412393

I know the other MtFs hate you here, but I'd do ya. Pass

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Therapist said he started writing my referal, I'm kind of hyped C:

>>6412381
Looks like a dog from down under to me.
>>6412393
Look fine, I would advise avoiding proprietary software though.

>>6412393
disgusting, only people that want to fuck crossdressers and other fags will tell you that you pass

>>6412393
Thin the eyebrows and you might pass. MIGHT.

>>6412393
Honestly? People would just assume that you're a female, but a 5 or 6 because it seems more probable and is more prevalent than assuming that youre trans

>>6412458
>Thin the eyebrows and you might pass.

literally everyone says that. they look thin already why thin them more?

>>6412393
That philtrum is a dead give away :c

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>>6412393

>>6412492
heyyyyyyyy I only know one person with those talented drawing skills.

>>6412480
It's just the only realistic way I can think of to make you look more feminine. The alternative would be makeup but that might actually worsen the effect.

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>>6412492
/lgbt/ drawfags are nature's gift to the world

>>6412453
dont pass yet but you should with clothes/time on hrt/a little make up and longer hair

>>6412492
HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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>>6396580
>>6400245
You have a lot of potential, nice long healthy hair, cute lips, and a soft face with no overly masculine features. On the downside your nose is shit, your makeup skills are shit, and you appear to be of average or slightly taller male height..... none of those are impossible passes so you have it better than most.

We havent seen candid pics of your body yet. You should stop raising your brows in pics as well, those creases in your forehead will become permanent if you do. Also where are you from famly?

>>6404008
>>6404012
You dont look bad at all, but you are 6'5" so you will never pass, I dont care what any hugboxing delusional nutcases tell you.

>b-b-but there are cis girls that are 6'5"

TOP
FUCKING
LUL

>>6404872
>>6410093
You dont pass, at all, its not even close; tired of people hugboxing the shit out of you Tbh.

You have aesthetic MALE features, this is worst possible scenario for any MtF. Your forehead is robust, your nose is robust, your hairline is masculine, and your jaw and chin are chisled like fucking marble.

Are you good looking? To people attracted to men yes you are good looking, as a female? no fucking way. It would take so much FFS to make you look female you will look like an alien when they are done with you.

Carth talk, real talk familia

>>6406454
You have a nice body, and probably make a really good bottom... face is wrecked tho for real, hair also meh.

>>6412492
Damn, yall are p mean to Maddie =\

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Low effort with a bit of makeup. Have at it. 8 months HRT.
>>6412393
I give you andro/10 the messy hair look doesn't suit you.

>>6412674
I only post with a trip

>>6412674
pass at first glance, but shadow can be visible at closer inspection.

I feel like height, voice, and mannerisms are going to be what make or break fully passing irl if I were you.

>>6412453
pass as female but i assume you're ftm


>>6412393
kinda pass kinda dont need to see that body

>>6412674
kinda pass but you look weird

>>6412684
I don't get what your saying haha? You think I should use a trip?

>>6412694
Yeah I think I am my voices biggest critic. I have lots of people tell me the voice passes and that my mannerisms are super feminine but I also think they are IRL hugboxers haha.

>>6412718
No I'm saying I didn't make that post

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Here I am after 3 years of HRT.

>>6412723
ftm or mtf

>>6412723
Bobby?

>>6412734
You don't know me!

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>>6412718
>>6412694
Here is my voice to go with the picture.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0xWzV4GXb9d

Here is a bonus picture from a month ago. The picture I put up before was not my best and neither is this one, but this is the brutal no hug box edition so I want to get an idea of what I look like at less than my best/ more casual regular.

>>6412723
You very much look like a man.

>>6412393
>>6412453
>>6412674
no
>>6412723
yes
>>6412744
no

>>6412393
You look like Jesse Eisenberg had a boy with Edward Scissorhands

>>6412453
>>6412674
>>6412744
guys in wigs
legit creeped out

>>6412723
wud fug

>>6412744
Well, if you want a brutal no hug boxing opinion, I'll tell you straight that you kinda sound like just a gay guy.

Now from the Vocaroo, you said that you can go higher as well, but without going full Minnie-mouse tier, do you think you could provide a sample of that?

Overall as far as voice is concerned, general over-the-phone you would pass because quality is generally shitty there but in person, it would be hit or miss in my honest opinion. Even in the "comfortable range", I would suggest speaking less monotonously.

[spoiler]I naturally hugbox though, so I'll say that you're doing good progress for being 8 months. Keep it up and I could see you casually passing at the 1 year mark[/spoiler]

>>6412744
Strong jawline, but I've seen worse on biological women. If you're not super tall you should be good. I can't quite determine why, but you pass better with no makeup.

Voice needs work. Anon is right, you sound like a gay boy.

>>6412744

When I first saw this picture scrolling down the page I thought you were a grill but then I looked at the thread topic and looked at your picture again and could see that you were a boy passing as a grill. If I just saw you on the street I'd think you were a grill.

You look like a very young, much more attractive version of Virginia Woolf

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>>6412827
I will try my best haha. I will go higher and then I will show you my natural voice and you can see what you think. My electrolysis said I should just my natural voice, if you put on airs it draws more attention sometimes.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jBpd3EkYc4


>>6412811
100% my real hair. >_>

>>6412912
Haha I am 25 so I will take any comments saying I look young I can get.

>>6412893
I am just under or exactly 6 foot. I find when I walk down the street most girls my age are roughly the same high so not too bad there.

Hopefully you think this new vocaroo is better I Donno. I had a endoscopy done recently, and I am going to go for vocal training when I can now. (Thanks to getting the endoscopy done I can get a referral. It is really hard to get an appointment for that here without one.)

Here is another bonus picture just because.

I was out dancing at the gay club, and this guy was all over me Kept telling him I had a girlfriend, but I guess at least he thought I passed. -_-

>>6413003
the wig just means that nothing about you is feminine but your hair and that doesn't look very natural either

>>6413003
To me, your "higher" voice sample sounds better than the first sample. I understand that from your perspective it may sound too high or yes, cartoony, but I felt as it it was better grasp on what average grils sound like provided you don't go too high or make it seem forced.

Additionally, your guy voice is well, a guy's voice. They were just blatantly hugboxing you if they say it's anywhere near sounding like a natural gril's voice, even if it was a low voice. Don't talk to me or my transbian wife's Estrogen force-fed femboy with that voice ever again.

>>6413087
I mean it is dark/chocolate brown naturally. My girlfriend dyed it for me and I like the blonde so it is staying for now.

Thanks for your honesty I guess. Life is a collection of perspectives.

>>6413096
It is just super unfortunate because the vocal surgery options out there right now are HORRIBLE and could even leave you mute for life! At the sometime not being able to use your voice "naturally" without thinking about it is also really unfortunate.

I don't get what you're saying with your last sentence there haha.

>>6412723
Ftm? If so, please call me.

>>6412393
Gotta lose some weight, but mostly passable from what I see.
>>6412453
Cute, a few more years of HRT will go a long way.
>>6412674
Good effort, the jaw is holding you back.

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How do I into eyebrows and nose surgery and jaw shaving and ribcage reduction and shoulder narrowing and not being 5'11" and help

>>6412453
Cute, will pass with flying colours
>>6412615
lame-ass carthage-born peasant with a tiny dick/10
>>6412674
For 8 months you look flippin gr8 m8
>>6412723
Smokey the bear/10
>>6412744
I think that this voice passes but >>6413003
also passes really well and doesn't sound cartoony at all. Keep on practicing!
>>6414046
Brian from Spaced/10

>>6412341

As long as you stay out of my bathroom, you all pass!

>>6414115
TERF please leave

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>tfw you have no fucking idea what you are doing

ftm, over the past few months my face rating here has gone from "you look like a man" to "you look androgyny". someone explain.

>>6414173
You look like an elephant

>>6414173
You look like a 16/17 year old boy.
>>6414225
rude

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>>6414225
that could mean anything, so I guess I will take it as I pass.

>>6414173
in this pic you look like a butch lezbian

>>6414173
Mtf shoulders, mtf face and mtf pose.
Quite masc with mtf deer headlights gaze.

>>6412381
dog

>>6412393
(You)

>>6412453
androgynous girl

>>6412674
man

>>6412723
man

>>6414046
manly girl

>>6414173
androgynous girl

>>6414255
>>6414258

sort of going for the fuckable twink look, not disgusting woman of any sort look.
>>6414240
at least this implies passing.

seems to me that we're still not being brutal enough in the honesty we're delivering

i feel it's important to give an opinion completely disregarding whether it might sound rude. the more honest it is the more it will help imho

>>6414276
The mtf thing was bait also you look pretty androgynous

Bumping to get answers xD

>>6414310

even with the short hair, you look like a girl alright. pretty cute yeah

>>6414301
Not to the point where it's obviously meant to damage someone's self esteem. Brutal honesty is fine as long as it's constructive, for instance
>>6414310
That dress doesn't suit your frame at all, it makes your shoulders look big. Stop trying to look like an anime girl and invest in some actual clothes. Dresses are fine but I've found it's easier to pass when you're starting out if you don't dress hyper-fem, but andro enough so that people are less likely to give you a second look. When your hair grows out a bit longer, get it styled so that it frames your face instead of covers it. You might wanna think about getting a different frame for your glasses but it depends what kind of look you're going for.

Not >>6414225 which doesn't offer any real criticism and isn't helpful at all.

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>>6414353
Eh, I think my face gives it away though. BUT that's what this is here for. Getting advice

>>6414361
Thank you for the criticism. At the time I was actually borrowing that from my ex. so I went and took... like 50 selfies, because I thought it was cute. though my wide shoulders are prominent.

>>6414366
I need a better camera...

>>6414366
>>6414371
Don't get me wrong, you're p fuckin cute. My advice was for if you want to pass in real life and possibly go fulltime/stealth. As long as you get on hrt soon you'll be fine. Also your face is pretty gorgeous tbqh, only thing I can think of would be a rhinoplasty. Might help but you probably won't need it.

>>6414418
Thank you!

And I thought about it... BUT I'm proud of my native american heritage(Hard to believe with my skintone) and eventually grew to love my nose, though it's still quite large and hooked.

>>6412723
ftms always pass
now lose weight fatass

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random selfie tell me whatever

>>6414496
Mtf? If so, honestly can't tell from cis woman.

>>6414496
Hot/10

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well heres more recent ones i just cut it

>>6412393
Not bad, not foolproof, but certainly not bad looking.

>>6412453
Great potential to pass.

>>6412674
Eeeh, hard to decide

>>6412723
Looks exactly like a man, would never guess you weren't.

>>6414173
Looks kind of like a tomboy.

>>6414310
Fairly passing, body is slender which helps a lot.

>>6414496
>>6414548
>>6414555
You look kind of like a 30 year old asian mother, don't know how else to put.

i do have slightly chink eyes, but ive never been called that before and i almost choked on my candy. lol i wish i had some asian babies.

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>>6414569
>tfw I'm the only one left out

>>6414548
=b

Newfag here. Why am I getting a boner?

>>6414644
Sorry, I just couldn't form an opinion.
Androgynous maybe?

>>6414173
You have girl eyes.

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>>6414672
Maybe because you fetishize trans people for no reason at all? Most of us are either batshit crazy or more or less unremarkable. I honestly don't understand chasers.

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>>6414812
why do older hons think that it's even remotely ok to wear pigtails? You don't see 40 year old cis women doing that shit because it looks ridiculous. Why would it be any different?

>>6414812

Holy shit I witnessed that on leddit and his post actually got like +10 up-votes...

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>>6414812

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/4o42w1/meeting_dad_for_fathers_day_first_ride_after/d49to35

>OMG SO Embarrassing! https://imgur.com/MHgVq0H

>FYI my mom said "no one over 18 should ever wear pigtails". I know I look like a fool, but I cried so hard, for so long when she said that.

mfw imagining a forty year old man crying because his mother told him he can't wear pigtails

>>6414819
i have a thing for trans girls because i love androgynous girls and cute boys.
i also have body dysmorphia and sometimes wish i were a girl, so i feel a slight emotional connection, you know?

does that make me a chaser?

>>6414819
>>6414930
i'm genuinely wondering because i'm still sort of new to all of this

>>6414930
Yeah kinda

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>>6412393
face looks a little guy ish to me.
It would be in the back of my mind if i saw you I wouldnt misgender or anything because I'd know you were trans

>>6412453
Based on what I see you will pass fairly easily with minor changes i can't tell you what because I dont know these things but i'm sure others can help

>>6412674
I see a guys face immediately I'm sorry

>>6412723
sup barry

>>6414046
its the jaw or something, i'm sorry same again :/

>>6414173
the size of your eyes, the shape of your mouth even a much visibly softer jaw makes you look more girl. I mean pretty close to a soft featured guy I know too though so something could be done
>>6414244
I just saw this one, this one is much better for some reason

>>6414496
yup i see a woman here so... how did you achieve this?
>>6414555
>>6414548
Yeah good job

>>6414812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cdUDNuf3_o

>>6414819

Sorry, that didn't sound as rude when I typed it. I was trying to make a joke. I don't know, I like boys, and I like girls, so if a girl still has some physical resemblance to a boy, why would that bother me? I'm no stranger to craziness myself. I did too many drugs when I was younger and spent time in a psych ward. I've seen some terrible things. I don't know if I could really be that upset by mental illness. As for the fetishization, I think I can see why that would be frustrating but I don't know if that's what does it for me. A while ago someone told me that gender was performative and that in his words, "qt traps rated higher on the femininity scale than unattractive women" and that the physical biological components don't really factor in. It seems plausible enough to me. Have you ever read the short story "Aye, and Gomorrah" ? I think it might click for some people on this board. Kind of a chaser theme.

You're stunning btw, you should wear that color more often.

>>6415004
How old are you?

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Can't sleep so fuck it.

>>6415066
Sorry but you absolutely don't pass as a man.

>>6415066
Cis girl/10

>>6415066
BEING HONEST, but REALLY CUTE. Would like a better facial expression to know for sure though. BUT in that it's really well passing.

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i know i gotta do my eyebrows and something about the beard shadow, but any advice?

>>6415106
your clothes look bad desu.
try a hairstyle that's a little more feminine. yours isn't bad, but i've seen guys with that same cut

>>6415061

I'm 27.

>>6415106
MTF or FTM?

IF MTF Your face shape is VERY feminine, and your eyes are ADORABLE, seriously, perfect eye shape. Even without makeup or anything very very feminine. MAYBE change the hair(Grow out your bangs or something) and it'll be very nice. I'd like to POSSIBLY see some of you in makeup(IF you're MTF) It'd be nice to see what you look like with it. Very well passing though. MAYBE get a cuter outfit.

IF FTM... then your face shape is very feminine... I would recommend getting a shorter cut and facial hair. And no collar... the collar is very feminine.

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>>6415106
May be weird, but I assumed you were MTF and did a makeup photoshop just to see if I could get an idea of with makeup(NOT that you need it)

>>6415106
I don't care what you are, you have very gorgeous lady eyes

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I got a colar bone tattoo last weekend, did it help or hurt?

>>6415300
holy fucking jesus could you be any more lame

>>6415300
if not for being a trekkie id have harsh words for you.

>>6415304
Probably not. I'm pretty fucking lame

>>6415300
curious as to how you'd look naked as in with natural hair, no glasses, no piercings or tats.

vest optional.

Other than that i think you pass but that wouldn't be something i really think about if i were to encounter you irl.

also i dont want ot be rude but your hair is looking kind of sad right now :[

>>6412674
6/10 you look like a high school teacher

>>6415066
I would approach you on the street and ask for a date. 7/10

>>6414812
0/10 put crazy make up on and become a creepy clown

>>6414244
>>6414173
>tfw not balls deep in ayydins boypucci right now
:^)

>>6415513
Of course you do silly. 7/10

>>6415513
Yes. You're slim, so don't worry about small boobs too much.

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>>6415513
Dunno, can't see your face. Body looks good at least.

>>6415106
Cut your bangs shorter, feminine attire would help too but I'm guessing you already knew that.

>>6415066
Pass, I like your makeup.

>>6414812
Pigtails aren't really a haircut to go for, try something with bangs instead. More eye makeup could help a lot. No pass.

>>6414496
>>6414548
>>6414555
Pass with flying colors. Only bad feature I see is your hands.

>>6414310
>>6414366
No pass, but I can tell you're trying so youll get there. Growing out your hair will help, keep practicing with your makeup. The dress is unflattering, try something that shows more of your chest and shoulders maybe?

>>6414173
>>6414244
If taller than 5'8", pass. If not, no pass.

>>6413003
Almost passing, hair looks very unnatural. Needs jaw reduction.

>>6412744
Id give you a pass, but the jaw might give you away to astute observers.

>>6412723
If FtM, pass with flying colors.

>>6412453
No pass but the future is hopeful, very feminine eyes.

>>6412453
Got some big potential there!

>>6412674
A bit man-jaw, bit everything else looks good. If your voice is feminine, you'll do good.

>>6414173
How long have you been on T? So far you just look like a tomboy.

>>6414173
>>6414244
you look andro, unless your voice is particularly masculine i would assume you're a girl

>>6414301
>say whatever i actually think without caring if it sounds rude or not
>but genuinely think most faces in these threads look like regular females
>get accused of hugboxing from time to time

>>6415777
+ honestly i think it's much easier to clock people based on voice and body (especially in white women faces are usually the most androgynous feature) and thus posting faces is kinda pointless at judging overall passability

>>6414366
Keep the glasses off anon. You look a hundred times more girly without them

>>6414812
THISI HON WHAT ARE U DOING????!!!!

>>6412393
girl

>>6412453
girl

>>6412674
girl at first glance. then the jaw gives it away.

>>6412723
man

>>6414046
manly girl

>>6414173
andro

>>6414244
girl here

>>6414310
confused. nice legs though.

>>6414366
dyke

>>6414496
cis girl

>>6414548
girl

>>6415066
girl

>>6415513
can't see your face but flat-chested cis girl

>>6415318
>curious as to how you'd look naked as in with natural hair, no glasses, no piercings or tats
Honestly I am too sometimes, it's been years since I've seen myself with all the modifications and stuff
>also i dont want ot be rude but your hair is looking kind of sad right now :[
Not rude at all, my hair is looking ragged right now. I couldn't get a salon appointment scheduled until Monday, but I'm getting it fixed up then so I'm aware at least lol

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Ill give it a shot. This is me as of now, I suck at make up! I literally had to redo my eyeliner like 5 times, stupid hand keeps moving everywhere... so hard to put this stuff on...
p.s. sorry for the small pic...

>>6416853
You look just like a girl I had a crush on

>>6412674
LOOK LIKE MY SCIECE TEACHER HELLO MR ELISA

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>>6415395
>>6416968

Why does everyone think I am their teacher or look like one haha?!

Hopefully I don't look like a teacher here. This was a month ago.

>>6417177
Nope, that picture looks like a teacher's vacation to the beach. Like I would find that picture next to a collage of other pictures of you and your family.....anyway ya still pass to me

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not amazing lighting but me right now. might have some mascara on leftover from yesterday?

i really worry i just have too big of a head and that like my jaw is too wide.

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>>6417699
recent photo in more natural lighting + nose ring in (i wear it like 50/50)

>>6417699
>>6417747
Waah, you're cute. Very pretty eyes.

>>6412393
Girl
>>6412453
Girl rn but you will pass
>>6412674
Andro leaning girl
>>6412723
What do you think?
>>6414046
Andro
>>6412744
No but you're cute
>>6414173
Twink/10
>>6414310
You look like a trans guy who's xdressing tbqh but you look good
>>6414496
Girl
>>6415066
v. femme girl
>>6415106
Boy
>>6417699
Girl
>>6416853
Girl

>>6417857
>>6412744
*meant don't pass as bio girl

>>6417747
nosering is sign of degeneracy
get labret and nipple piercings instead

>>6417747
I think your super cute! I would get a plain nose ring though the rhinestones are not doing you any favors.
>>6417891
>get labret and nipple piercings instead
IGNORE THIS HORRIBLE ADVICE!

My girlfriend got nipple pericings and lost all sensation in her nipples! You are just growing breasts, do you want to lose the sensitivity before you even start? (They feel amazing btw! as you likely know. )

>>6417952
i have a small little gold ring one, but it's such a pain in the ass to take in and out(gotta bend it)
im thinking i might end up getting a small plain horseshoe, so i can just flip it up when im not feeling it.

yeah, im def not into the nipple piercings.

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Hey y'all, just passing through to see if I could get a rating.

I am also a Lesbian Transgender (a Female, Lesbian Soul trapped in a male body) so if any of you are looking for a sweetheart I'd be willing to fill that spot! lol

>>6418315
Christian Chandler needs to work on his hair and makeup skills

>>6418315
you look like a qt pie. I think you are beautiful

from a cute cis bi girl.

>>6418315
you are beautiful hon, i'm sure you'll find a boyfriend free girl soon

>>6417747
>>6417699
>>6416853

3 good passes

>>6418315
Please don't ever call your self "a Transgender" ever again. You are "A lesbian Transgender person." -_-

>>6415513
That top doesn't look quite right. But you're good.

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2yrs hrt and 3yrs meff

>>6419101
Please tell me those aren't self harm scars

>>6419116
um of course they are, they're a tranny what do you expect

>>6419116
They're from from a mental breakdown where I thought the neighbors were watching me on video cameras and I was trying to tell them I wasn't acting by cutting my legs and pulling out some of my hair :3

>>6419101

no

>>6414913
holy shit

>>6417699
>>6417747
>>6416853
>>6415513
>>6415147
>>6415066
hot

>>6419154
Chill desu senpai

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this is why i'll never transition

>>6419218
I don't get it

>>6419218
Honestly unless youte just trying to impress people with angled pics theres no point in posting in a thread like this
Cameras distort the fuck out of your facr, particularly the selfie cams on iphone.
Then of course theres the fact that any angle could be deceiving, and if you post a non-angled pic theyll say you dont pass simply because no cis girl would ever post a non angled pic. Angling is a perfectly normal practice in photo taking that does not at all influence passing ability.
Then of course theres the fact that while reddit has insanely low standards for ppassing, 4chan does the opposite anf will call you nonpassing if you dont look like a picture perfect 14 year old animu girl.
The best way to see if you really pass is to ask your friends, ask your friends to take a candid video of you, or go on soc or omegle and see what people gender you as. I recommend the assume threads because most of the time when its a girl they will bring that up.
Passgen is bullshit, and im not hugboxing. If you need more proof just look at the real photos of dollface.

None of you pass you and you all look like men

t. ex tranny

>>6419259
>ask your friends
xDDD

>>6419267
Oh and i forgot to mwntion, if you see a "straight man" in passfgen

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>>6419229
Same.
>>6419218
If you are going to show feedback at least show all of it. She literally throws the same comment at herself that she got from this thread. . .

She is shutting down hugboxers. I don't see the issue here?

I think you just want a cookie for being a cyber Sherlock. Get a life.

>>6419279
Are you having a stroke anon?

>>6413003
>I am just under or exactly 6 foot. I find when I walk down the street most girls my age are roughly the same high so not too bad there.

What?? I'm a 5'8'' manlet and I'm taller than most women. What are you talking about?

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I consider myself a guy. Hrt 4+ years. I know my profile sucks. Am I fucked if I ever decide to go full girl?

>>6413003
Higher voice passes WAY better. Not Cartoony.

>>6419477
Wait so you're on e? No you're not fucked if you decide to go full girl but if you consider yourself a guy then why did you start hrt in the first place?

>>6419477
I think you would be fine! Literally no hug boxing but you have a tiny neck, and a good face shape!

your eye censor is funny. Not sure it is having the desired effect

>>6418601
Holy, kill yourself please.

>>6419419
She's probably in a country where everyone's super tall

>>6419500
>you're on e?
Yes
> why did you start hrt in the first place?
Thought I wanted to be a woman but more than anything I don't want to be masculine. What gender people see me as doesn't matter as much.

>you have a tiny neck, and a good face shape!
I am grateful for having a slender neck. Main thing I'm worried about is how far my chin juts out. My other problem are is deep set eyes, so I'm considering forehead work as well. Nose I could maybe live with.

I guess I'm less worried about not passing at all and more worried about being a hon, but there's only so much you can do with just E and genetics. Theres a bit of difference between being cute as a fem guy and being cute as a girl.

>>6419477
You look like a lesbian to me already tbqh

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pretty much 3/4 of my family disowned me overnight

am i at least getting close

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sometimes i feel cute from the front , I'm 3 months in but my jaw and nose will never let me pass, even for a boyish girl n it's killing me hard

>>6419154
You sound like a perfectly lovely person.

>>6419822
Which way are you going?

>>6419896
girls can have that nose. also your jaw is not bad. hormones will help a bunch bb

>>6415513
Be my gf

>>6419915

im mtf i started e on the 1st and spiro about a month before that

>>6419941
You look like a teenage lesbian or pre-t ftm. So, good going? You have a good face, you just need longer hair and some appropriate clothes.

>>6419477
Chin is a bit strong, but other than that you're already a cute girl.

>>6419914
are you being sarcastic? ;_;

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Hay girls, anyone else here a truhon?

>>6414310
Fucking awful.

>>6414812
Jesus Christ, what the fuck?

>>6415300
*vomits*

>>6417177
C'mon dude, you can do better.

The rest of you pass pretty well, some of you actually go for hot women. Notably:

>>6417747

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>>6415513
Pass and also qt

>>6416853
Pass, don't worry about your eyeliner. Almost no one can get them even anyways, and no one will notice.

>>6417177
Andro. Your jaw is pretty masc, you might think about ffs.
If you hadn't said anything I wouldn't have thought about it, but... You do kinda look like a teacher.

>>6417699
>>6417747

Pass. Your jaw is fine and your bangs cover your forehead so you're fine. You're hella cute.

>>6419218
Idk man if I saw her irl I'd assume female. If you're looking for it then yeah, she has some definite tells but she passes fine at a casual glance

>>6419477
Can't see enough to tell. Might need chin reshaping & maaaaybe a nose job but if you tried you'd probably be ok

>>6419822
I genuinely can't tell if you're mtf or ftm so pass?

>>6419896
I know girls with the same nose and your jaw is fine. If you want surgery then do it, but you're going to be fine. Especially if that's only 3 months, holy shit.

>>6420161
You are really cute! I am guessing FTM? I would say dropping the earring might help pass as male, but you might also be going for an andro look so I don't know.

>... You do kinda look like a teacher.

Haha at this point with enough people saying it I guess I have to buy it, but honestly... What does a teacher look like? or what makes someone look like a teacher? (and don't just say me lawl)

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>>6420161
I'm >>6419477
Pic is from about a year ago but shows more of a front on view. Sorry about the bad camera.

>>6420161
bo burnham / 10

>>6412393
I don't know?
>>6412453
You look like a girl, I don't know what you're trying to pass as
>>6412674
pass
>>6412723
If you're a FTM, then you PAAASS YAAASSSS
>>6414046
literally a man in a wig
>>6414173
you look like a girl
>>6414366
Stop with the smoke and mirrors
>>6414496
girl
>>6414812
You look like a masculine version of an ugly girl I know
>>6415066
girl
>>6415106
Faggy dude
>>6415300
shitty angle, but from this myspace point of view, pass
>>6416853
girl
>>6417177
I said you passed before, but not in this pic. Your nose and jaw reads as MAN
>>6417699
girl
>>6419101
Can't see your face, but man body all the way
>>6419477
can't tell, because it's an AWFUL FUCKING ANGLE
>>6419822
girl
>>6419896
girl
>>6420161
lesbian
>>6420438
get a better picture for a better answer, but with your hair covering half your face, you look like a girl

>>6412615
heh, you're always in these threads, it's pretty amusing.

>>6412674>>6412744
pass for mom-core, very cute. You have a masculine jaw but you pass.
>>6412684
Why is your name pizza slur? and why won't you answet me.
>>6414548
pass, you face isn't masculine at all.
>>6414672
I love your precursor 4chan nonsense

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well destroy my illusions

When is the hugboxing edition?

Hey, uh why does this guy have a boner? >>6414672

>>6421292
even with a shitty wig covering half your face, I can spot a man from a mile away

>>6421311
Those are all over reddit

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reddit is to hug boxy, i need honesty.

>>6421611
You pass. Your forehead doesn't

>>6416419
Good stuff and good luck.
I've always been a little afraid of body mods, i mean i'd do a tattoo but I can't think of anything I suppose.

>>6421611
Thin lips, strong chin, a little bony around the cheekbone.
You're pretty close to passing, though. You're in "wait, is she..." territory.

>tfw cursed with long face
>too embarrassed to post knowing my long face and nose will be destroyed

Can they fix my long face with surgery? I know the nose is easy but I feel my biggeat problem is my face shape.

>>6421681
that's better then i thought, all i see is a man in a dress.

>>6421693
I think? Look up ffs

>>6421710
You're prolly a tranny tho. Trannies can clock a bitch from another dimension

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Rate me
>>6421611
K-kari??
>>6420438
Female
>>6420161
Male
>>6419896
Female
>>6419822
Cute Male
>>6419477
Male
>>6419101
Female
>>6417747
Female

>>6421748
K-kari? is that a good thing or a bad thing, ive never been called that before.

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Facebookgroups are hugboxes. I need brutal honesty. What can I do to pass better without using make-up?

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>>6421748

After visiting this thread, I'm almost certain that a girl in a creative writing class I took was a trans person. She was definitely one of the best writers in the class and I wanted to get to know her better because of that but she was also very reserved. One of her short stories reminded me of a video game so I asked her she had played it and she smiled fondly and said, "No, but my brother did." Maybe she was talking about herself at a younger age? Or maybe I'm just imagining it all and she's a cis girl.

>>6421776

You look pretty convincing to me, but I'm no expert.

>>6421776
Melly 2.0/5

>>6421769
You look like a friend of mine.

>>6421809
"Melly"?

>>6421807
Honestly it's exceedingly unlikely that she was trans.

>>6421865
Melly is a trip here on /lgbt/.

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My jaw is proof that god is the real devil.

H E L P

>>6421897
I am not Melly. I only post anonymous cuz trips are cancer.

>>6422024
you don't pass
yes its the jaw and it doesnt help that i see facial hair shadow on that picture or at least what appears to be
the hat isnt much help either it makes you look like a skater punk

even after all that i'd still hit it because you look like you're probably really tall and thin

>>6421776
you pass

>>6421611
i knew a girl when i was in secondary school who looks like she would grow up into you so i have a small bias to thinking you pass and would say you pass anyway
>>6421292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cdUDNuf3_o
>>6420438
pass
>>6420161
pass
>>6419896
Yeah, girls have noses sometimes. excellent potential and already very good looking, even the shape of your lips side angle is making me lean toward male but andro at the least.
>>6419477
pass

>>6419896

you are the cutest!

>>6422116
5 foot 11
my upper ribcage is fucked but I have a qt midriff at least and I have non-honnish boobs

>>6414913
mtfg

>>6422370
if not for it being wholly inappropriate and a blue board id inquire more about the boobs

So what are your plans for progression in the transition anyway? you working toward anything?

>>6421714
This is so true. Kinda makes me think the whole point of this tread is being missed. Like trans people will always be able to spot things that don't pass about trans people.

In a everyday context lots of the people who don't pass in this thread would pass in real life under normal context. I guess this is more like hard-mode, where if you pass here your golden for most situations life will throw. I really think there should be a mandatory voice included with each picture though. Photo passing is super 1 Dimensional.

I also find that the people that everyone in this thread thinks are cute are the ones with "pouty" expressions. like:
>>6419896
>>6417747
>>6415066

The whole thread is a neat sort of social experiment.

Ultimately the sad truth is that most of the people in here past 20 before they started transition are going to need to end up getting FFS on top of HRT. That being said wait a couple years first and see where you are.

>>6422418
I need FFS, not that that's gonna happen anytime soon unless I find a briefcase with £15,000 in it

>>6420211
Yep! I like the earrings though, I'll just deal with them looking effeminate. I'm always gonna look a little girly, I'm tiny as fuck so might as well.

I'm not sure what it is. You just kinda look like a teacher I had in middle school, except 30 years younger. I think it might be the way you hold yourself rather than the way you actually look.

>>6420438
You pass, you'll be fine.

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>>6414173
>>6414244
>someone explain

Your face is obviously feminine. While your nose is ugly and somewhat robust you have no forehead, no brow ridge, no jaw, and a tiny mouth. Your face would shatter from one punch.

You might fool some oblivious people if you dont brush your hair and wear some guy clothes and dont speak, but you dont look like a man at all to me Tbh.

>>6414496
>tell me whatever

>206x343
Get a camera from this century poorfag

>>6415300
>I got a colar bone tattoo last weekend, did it help or hurt?

What, look even more like human trash? It helped of course :^)

>>6416853
>195x191

Nigga are you serious? kys for wasting everyones time

>>6417699
>>6417747
>i just have too big of a head and that like my jaw is too wide

LUL long time no see :^)

Your fringe really helps you because it completely hides your forehead and brow ridge, so it dramatically distorts the way your face is perceived. It allows your feminine features (eyes, lips, nose) to really shine through. You also have really nice skin quality, but your hair looks thin and dry. Overall cute and passable.

I see that you frown even when you smile though, you are destroyed on the inside arent you? :^)

>>6419101
Nice bod, would hook up with, would not hang out with :P

>>6419259
>Passgen is bullshit
It has some value, unlike your post. Yes cameras and angles can be extremely distorting, but they can also be helpful for giving general guidance and advice.

>If you need more proof just look at the real photos of dollface
Edie has always been ugly tho.... what is your point?

>go on soc
xD

>>6419477
>I consider myself a guy
Looks like somebody else considered you a guy too, how did you get the black eye famlee? (:

>>6421748
lol u are starting to look slightly cute, I remember for the longest time you looked like total shit.... would probably hook up with on the DL, even though I know your voice is complete shit.

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>>6412393
move in with me

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>>6412393
pass
>>6412453
pass
>>6412674
no pass
>>6414046
no pass
>>6414310
no pass
>>6414496
pass
>>6415066
pass
>>6415106
pass
>>6415300
pass
>>6416853
pass
>>6417699
pass
>>6419101
no pass
>>6419477
pass
>>6421292
no pass
>>6420438
pass
>>6421611
pass
>>6421748
pass
>>6421776
pass
>>6422024
no pass

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Getting FFS and going in with this

>>6423367
hey bby
wanna play find the sheckles with that shriveled thing you once wanked with?

>>6423367

But you don't need FFS senpai, you'd benefit from a nose job but that's all.

>>6423093
Hockeybot you always pass, be my bf

>>6423385
I want to get rid of the mole, wanted to for awhile but I was a poorfag. Isn't rhinoplasty still FFS?

>>6423384
I can't it is in a dick cage. ;^)

>>6420161
oh my, really cute

>>6423420
>caged
dropped

>>6422819
>even tho i knowbyour voice is complete shit
Rude ;_;

>>6412615
>>6422819
Reminder that this guy saves your pictures to fap to them later. It's also funny when he samefags as other girls wanting him.

http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6089881/#6112328
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6089881/#6114823

Be careful /passgen/

>>6423641
I really don't see an issue when you're posting your pics and even then he says he only saves the best looking ones.

Actually I want him to comment on me because he seems more harsher than the average poster which means there is more I could work on.

>>6423641
oh no boo hoo someone saved my pics
get a life loser

>>6423663
this

>>6423641
Uh, I fap to your pics all the time.
Like sue me, I find you attractive and your posts belong to the internet now.

>>6423641
carth is a creep
>>6423663
>>6423673
i agree with this you're posting it online so you cant expect then not to be saved but it doesnt change the fact that he stalks girls and treats them like dirt.

>>6423367
The fuck
you pass 100% don't waste your god damn money.

Westerners and their decadence holy shit.

>>6423696
>treats them like dirt.
i thought he was just joking when he says all those things? but i kinda see what you mean. supposedly the people that meet him in person says he treats them really nicely though. so maybe hes just playing the chad act online?

but sometimes his jokes go way overboard

>>6423387
Ok I will

>>6423739
and then throws literal tantrums when girls dont want him

>>6423812
lol really?

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I have ash brown hair nao

>>6423849
yeah acts all nice and then turns around and says awful things saying it was all a lie. dudes got issues

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Ignoring the really bad makeup, what else can I do to improve?

>>6423977
Stop having a male skeleton for starters

>>6423977
arch eyebrows and make them look neater, no black eye makeup at all and gain weight, no pass for now

>be 20 y.o. FtM

Okay so I'm a little too embarrassed to post pics (just got my haircut and it makes me look super butch and ugly - but I've also been called sir/buddy more than ever with this haircut, so maybe that's a good thing?) but my face is pretty round and femme looking. How much will HRT change my face shape? I just wanna know because that's the only chance I have of actually passing. I know in other threads people have said that I just look like a really femme guy to that I don't pass, but that HRT will help. Is that true? Does testosterone really do that much?

>>6423977
>>6424000
if you arch them, do it very slightly. mtfg pushes pencil thin eyebrows and it makes people look like hons.

>>6424080
hard to say but at 20 you should still get actual bone changes
if your face is round it's probably which will definitely change on T
look for timelines of people your age, 20 seems like a common age for FtM transition nowadays


>I know in other threads people have said that I just look like a really femme guy to that I don't pass, but that HRT will help.
they probably thought you're mtf

>>6424080
>Is that true? Does testosterone really do that much?
it mostly works on face and voice desu unless you work out but it does do wonders unless you're postmenopausal or something

>>6423977
take more hormones. you look p good already.

>>6424122
>if your face is round it's probably
it's probably fat*

>>6424000
>>6424113
Thanks. This was about a month ago so theyve improved since then but I really fucked up my right one so ive just been waiting for it to fill out a little more again before I touch it.

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4 months into hrt, here is a pic of me as i dress normally. What do you think?

>>6424199
Sorry about the sideways im away from computer

>>6419101
Almost pass but would make a really cute guy. Consider being a femboy pham.

>>6424113
>mtfg pushes pencil thin eyebrows and it makes people look like hons.

Lol this. I don't know why they think tiny eyebrows makes them pass better. Its one of the worst tranny memes. Your eyebrows help frame your face and overplucking them leads to permanent eyebrow loss and makes male foreheads look bigger.

My standard advice is always let them grow in until thick and then pluck under so that you have arched, slightly chunky eyebrows. Don't pluck over except to clean up strays. Get an eyebrow powder kit and git gud. Thick eyebrows are in still and flatter/cover up a masculine brow ridge to some extent.

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>>6423323
no pass
>>6423367
pass
>>6423885
pass
>>6423977
no pass, grow your hair out
>>6424199
qt, pass if you shave and get your eyebrows done

pre-e for now

>>6424293
youre pre e? fuck you and your genes

>>6424293
borderline

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Feel sad for this person but didn't want make a thread so since I usally post in this I'll put my email here (filename)

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Casual reminder for everyone chirping about needing FFS for jawlines. Lots of cis women have wide jaws. And makeup contouring is fucking magic.

It is pretty likely that you guys would tell a lot of cis girls they don't pass without makeup on lawl.

Pic related. (google makeup contouring and you can find plenty more)

>>6424518
Yeah and they look like men. More ciswomen should get FFS 2bqh pham. Ugly people are barely human.

>>6421829
>friend

>>6424518
but they have real vaginas, probably short height, natural boobs, voice, and female mannerisms, body shape to back up that fact.

this is why they are fine with a masculine jawline. everything else on them is 100% female.
most mtf have none of that so they have to be extra assiduous

>>6424518
>It is pretty likely that you guys would tell a lot of cis girls they don't pass without makeup on lawl.
no, not really. you just don't understand anything

>>6424549
>chasers speak

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#kingofthehons

>>6424635
that dress does nothing to help hide your wide shoulders. why wear it?

>>6424612
No just a bitter fag who wont transition because he would be an embarrassing hon.

>>6424635
The dress looks fine, and legit your not that bad hun.

Hun tier, not Hon tier.

The purse does really clash with the dress though. (I have zero fashion sense so take that with a grain of salt)

>>6424647
Because why my shoulders are "wide", (16.5"), they don't cause me dysphoria so who gives a shit?

>>6424667
Well what can I do to improve?

>>6424654
Literally stop projecting then.

Only wanting to transition if you super pass is like basically admitting you wanted to be a "Transtrender"

You gender identity gives no fucks what you look like. It is who you are. If your really a woman, then you really are a woman... To live the rest of your life as a man in that situation is not really an alternative.

>>6424671
your face passes

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No hrt, so maybe I'm salvagable. Need 2 learn 2 contour and I might be okay. I'll likely just look fucked up tho

>>6424685
Thanks
my body is shit and I'm working on getting in shape and slimming down

>>6424646

No, but possible later on.

>>6424635

Very masculine face no lie, but maybe, idk can barely see your face.

>>6424293

Honestly, you probably pass to most people, but not to me in this picture. But if it was IRL, you'd pass if your voice/mannerisms were on point.

>>6424199

No pass, but will probably pass in future with effort.

>>6423977

Depending on how you frame your hair, you could pass very easily. Otherwise, no pass.

>>6423885

Pass, but barely imo, it's probably something to do with the cheek/jawline, I can't put my finger on it.

>>6423367

Pass

>>6422024

No pass, but you were obviously good looking as a guy. I think with either slight FFS or better makeup/hairstyle to help shape your face it's possible. Your jawline is very similar to mine, minus the chin. (My chin is way smaller)

>>6421776

Pass.

>>6421748

No pass.

>>6421611

Pass, but barely, longer I stare the more I start to question. If you had voice down/mannerisms IRL I wouldn't even think twice.

>>6421292

No pass, weird angle and shit can barely see your face.

>>6420438

Pass, but might want to change hairstyle

>>6417747
>>6417699

oh shit i remember you from seedy, ofc multipass 100%.

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>>6424679
The dress has a clean/sharp manufactured look. Ditto for the glasses both are really modern. So having a more neutral or modern looking purse would help. Color doesn't have to match or anything.

This is why so many women use black leather purses. They go with practically fucking everything hahah.

It doesn't have to be expensive either. Hit up a thrift store. The purse it self is not a problem, it just doesn't work with your outfit.

Something like this it would work with.

>>6415066
Cute
>>6415147
Eww
>>6415300
You're attractive in that trashy, I know I can fuck you without trying too hard kind of way
>>6417747
Adorable
>>6419896
You look like that super andro actress tilda swinton

>>6424900
Well what makes my face very masculine?
What features stand out?

>>6424999
Thanks

>>6424293
You're a fucking qt3.14, I loved your eyes and your hair.

>>6415300
for the love of god please put some appropriate jewelry on that anti-eyebrow/whatever the fuck piercing
it's already starting to reject and the scar is gonna look like ass
I like the new tattoo, looks well done (the others not so much) and you pass
but yeah, the hair is not great either, needs a little conditioning

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29 MtF, 8 years HRT

>>6426078
Fuck off, you're cis
you took one off the image count for your own ego
for shame...

what gun is that back there?

>>6424199
where are you from. youre as cute as they get.

>>6426078
Ty for giving us all hope! You pass! ! ! haha

you look great!

>>6426271
I swear I'm a transsexual. And it's a Mossberg 535.

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rip shitty webcam

>>6426078
youre beautiful hi

>>6424696
take hormones you fucko pls

>>6424635
u pretty

>>6424293
NIGGA WHO THE FUQ IS U

>>6424199
you look like a girl fucko

>>6423977
you almost remind me of kevin barnes

>>6422024
you look like edgar desu>>6421748
i really like your face and outfit hi

>>6412393
maddie stfu you pass

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>>6424199
MFW it looks like you pissed yourself a little >_>

>>6426764
Totally get that though because mones and panties not being as absorbent shit happens. No skin off your back anon!

>>6426764
>>6426857
omg shut up no it's a grease stain from work

>>6424900
>Depending on how you frame your hair, you could pass very easily. Otherwise, no pass.

Yeah my hair really gives me trouble. The fact that I also drunkenly cut the front doesnt make it any better. I really just wear beanies almost 24/7 right now cause of the super awk stage my hair is in.

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>>6423641
>Reminder that this guy saves your pictures
I only save the best looking.... isnt that the point of this site, to save pictures that you like?

>to fap to them later
I rarely masturbate, and when I do it its definitely not to pictures..... there was a slight exception to that earlier this week tho, but that pic was sent directly to me
:P <3 :P <3 :P

>It's also funny when he samefags as other girls wanting him
Nah, I dont samefag pham; there are people that actually respond to my posts sometimes believe it or not....but hey whatever gets you through the day.

>http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6089881/#6112328
>http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6089881/#6114823
>based Carthaginian
The #2 girl on my Waifu Tier list recently added me on Kik..... how mad are you famly?

xD xD xD

>Be careful /passgen/
Hide ya pics, hide ya wife; they downloadin people out here.

>>6423696
>carth is a creep
Ohhhh OK now I know who you are (:

>doesnt change the fact that he stalks girls
You are delusional, name one person on here that has ever accused me of "stalking" them. I barely have time to reply to the kik and Skype messages I get from people on this board.... who the fuck am I gonna stalk?!?!? Shit is too funny xD

>and treats them like dirt
LMAO again name one person on here that has met me that said I treated them poorly. In fact I dont even treat people poorly on kik or Skype, because I am not that kind of person. I know who you are and I know why you are mad at me, but just let it go for real girl.

>>6423885
>prettiest girl ITT
<3 :P

these threads need to stop. the only thing that makes you trannies mentally ill is your willingness to FUCKING POST YOUR FACES ON THIS BOARD UR RETARDED

What is post cap? This has been up for like three days.

>>6422024
you dont pass

>>6423885
no pass you look weird and your lips are ugly the only thing that could save you would be if you have a natural cis girl voice but you probably dont

>>6415300
Your hair looks destroyed...

>>6427063
Agreed. Why I don't bother to post my pics.

>>6427334
Ya she looks good in terms of foundation but if she never gets ffs for that brow ridge big nose combination she's always going to look like weirdo and in many angles some type of angry 14 year old boy

>>6415300
Nat? Is that you? I think you're fuckin beautiful!

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I'm going to be blunt. don't get your feelings hurt if i say something harsh.

>>6412393
hon
>>6412453
cute young boy
>>6412674
hon
>>6412723
handsome man
>>6412744
better here
>>6413003
ugly
>>6414046
hon
>>6414173
twink
>>6414310
twink
>>6414496
looking good
>>6414548
average woman
>>6414555
turbofag
>>6414812
lol
>>6415066
pretty girl
>>6415106
really plain girl or really fem boy
>>6415300
i think it's great
>>6416853
pass but kinda ugly
>>6417699
pass, you look like a future housewife >>6419101
no pass but i like your look anyway.
>>6419477
you would need ffs
>>6419822
look like a boy. hang in their though, you don't shit people like that in your life anyway.
>>6419896
get rhino
>>6420098
middle aged man body
>>6420161
guy, really cute too
>>6421292
lmao
>>6421611
you look like a man. a man in a dress. an insane man in a dress.
>>6421748
androgynous but cute
>>6421776
pass. now lose weight
>>6422024
you have the eyes of jeff the killer. really unsettling.
>>6423093
male
>>6423323
no pass yet, but you'll be fine in the long run
>>6423367
you already pass but it should make you prettier
>>6423885
pass, but your forehead is really big
>>6423977
get ffs
>>6424199
would pass if not for eyebrows. still qt
>>6424293
androgynous
>>6424635
pass from what I can see there
>>6424646
disgusting
>>6424696
disgusting
>>6426078
pass flawlessly, as I hope you would at that stage
>>6426473
gross

>>6412674
Dr.Cormier?

>>6428574
You have cool fashion.

>>6428574
You look like shit, and you probably don't pass if you have to make that kind of a face in pictures

>>6428659
thane Q
>>6428731
i asked you not to get your feelings hurt

>>6428769
You did? I don't remember even posting.
Could you post a picture of you with a straight face and no makeup? If you really want an honest opinion you should be honest yourself.

>>6426078
Kaity?

>>6426399
you did a great job, goofing around aside im truly staggered.

Good show! you're one hot mamma jamma

>>6428574
you look so much like my step sister its making me fucking uncomfortable
so yeah you pass but... give her back her face. Body snatchers out here bruh.