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Mourning Orlando edition

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Our heart goes out to >>6385835
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first for sad
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>dad is trying to get me work at his friends accountant again
>Told him I don't know fuck all about accounting as I've been out of it for so long now

He needs to give up on me
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ahhh
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>>6387572
I came.
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nth for people need to listen to at least some of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMHgqO21qCw
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>tfw burned urself

owwie ;~~;
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Come to my warehouse girls
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>>6387556
>Talk shit get hit etc etc
wat?
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>>6387567
Fake it until you make it. Worst case they fire you after you pull in a few weeks of pay.
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those poor misunderstood muslims
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>>6387603
or in my case, just get bullied for having no fucking idea what's going on and eventually stop showing up because it's too stressful
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>>6387599
Where in █████, Michigan?
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>>6387599
the dream
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>>6387587
sympathy pls

it hurrrrrrttttttssss bad ;~~;
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>>6387603
It's work experience, work a few hours each week without pay and I'll get hired if I put in a good showing
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>>6387610
judging people by groups is fundamentally misguided, regardless of concentration of bad seeds
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>>6387599
would this change anything though?
it would need to undo all of the damage that our chromisomes have done to our bone structure in order to be completely fulfilling.
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>>6387623
Except when you trannies judge hons, right?
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>>6387599
Oh hey, I also live in [redacted], Michigan!
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>>6387618
;_;
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>>6387623
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>>6387620
I can understand not being interested in an unpaid internship. But, you don't think you can put in a good showing?
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>>6387633
i now have a scar ;~~'; it looks kinda like a wavy letter L
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I'm dat boi
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>>6387634
this is dumb
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Wish i knew anyone in Michigan
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>>6387626
nah, even that isn't really cool, it's just amusing.
>>6387634
uh, yeah, sure.
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>>6387638
Where is it? Will it help your Harry Potter cosplay?
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>>6387643
hi
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>>6387650
its on my hand ;~~; there is actually a ridge where the soldering iron hit it ;~~;
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>>6387643
Oh shit a meme!
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>>6387637
Nope

I know nothing of accounting anymore (due to circumstances)
I was one of those study for the exam, not the actual subject types and I've been out of university for a year and had a very stressful time of it
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>>6387656
it'll be ok carol :(
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>>6387634
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>>6387656
Ah. Sorry, yeah, I imagine that hurts.
>>6387660
Generally they're going to be expecting to need to train you somewhat when you're coming out of university. I guess, what's the downside to trying it out?
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>>6387662
b-but it hurttss

and now I burnt my chair too ;~~;

why am i so unlucky
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>>6387625
Less talk. More getting in the warehouse
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>>6387670
*hugs*
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>>6387670
>and now I burnt my chair too ;~~;
what the hell are you doing?...
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>>6387668
Failing at things or expecting to feel gives me intense anxiety
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>>6387684
I-I was trying to desolder something a-and then my hand slipped and i burnt myself and then i put the soldering thingy down for a sec and burnt my chair
>>6387675
;___;
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>>6387387
ugh, i need the fucking shit now.
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>>6387666
gaslighting?

>>6387692
oh
I guess that makes sense -.-
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>>6387670
Run cool (not cold) water over it for 15 minutes. Put an ice pack on it. Take some aspirin. Apply aloe vera. And so on; I'm sure you've already looked up how to treat it online.
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tfw u dont pass so ur a femboy now instead of a girl
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>>6387687
I get that.

It might be good for you to try to challenge that anxiety by trying in spite of it, though.
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>>6387706
tfw u dont not pass so ur a girl now instead of a femboy
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I'm still hype.
Which is kinda retarded since I can't stomach spoop-games
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>>6387704
I don't have those thooo
>>6387700
w-why "-_-"?
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>>6387706
>tfw u don't pass as a femboy either
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hai.
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>>6387700
google it, it's a form of manipulation
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>>6387706
tfw you dont pass so ur a boy now instead of a girl
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>>6387708
ha

Last job I had, I wet myself because I couldn't bring myself to ask to use the bathroom
That was almost a year ago
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>>6387715
You should probably go get a first aid kit then; that's good to have in general.
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>>6387706
>tfw you don't pass so you never get out of bed
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>>6387727
b-but its 1am ;___;
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>>6387725
Okay, I agree it probably doesn't make sense for you to try then; you probably should be getting therapy for your anxiety problem, though. Have you?
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>>6387730
Alright, get one in the morning then.
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i want to feel like a girl :(
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>>6387738
too much effort thoo
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>>6387737
Want to drink my piss?
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>>6387737
I'm only here cause I was born with a vagina but have a Y chromosome and have testeovaries that produce testosterone so I am a literal cuntboy
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>>6387737
I feel really bad for you failed gay men who can't smell straight man poo :(
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>>6387706
>tfw you will never pass, so you're a man with tits
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>>6387548
>Mourning Orlando

U mad, fags and non-genders? U butthur- Oh wait...
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>>6387737
i feel bad for fags who troll trannys who troll other trannys
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>>6387737
Joke is on you, I feel too gross about myself to dress like a woman because it just makes me more aware of the problems I have with my body.
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>>6387737
who cares how people dress?
high heels started as men's fashion
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>>6387736
Got betablockers and anti-depressants but they didn't really do anything

We were planning CBT but I left town and moved back in with my parents

Not even registered with a GP down here
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>>6387737
Are you a real grinch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgqapbV7Ggg
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>>6387723
oh.
that's actually how I got an In-school-suspension in middleschool.
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>>6387741
I want to look like a girl
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>>6387745
thank you. ive already quit hormones for 8 hours now. i think im recovering.
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>>6387748
So you were born an ftm and transitioning into an ftmtf?
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Hey. I know this isn't exactly a hugbox, and I like it for that, but I need a hug right now. I just...I don't know how much longer I can go on like this. Not knowing, you know, but hoping.

Why do I even hope that I'm a woman? It seems like a lot of hard work. That's not like me.
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>>6387761
Do look into the CBT, it often helps.
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wtb this experience pls
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>>6387764
that sucks, hope it didn't effect you too much
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>>6387737
>>6387759
also it used to be pretty common to dress young boys in dresses and frills
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>>6387777
>quad 7s
shiiiiiiiiiit DOES THAT MEAN WHAT I THINK IT MEANS
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>>6387772
What do you mean by "hope that you're a woman"?

I'm sorry you're feeling down, in any case. Do you want to talk about whatever's been going on with you that has you concerned?
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>>6387777
framce
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>>6387772
*hug*
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>>6387783
Enjoy your tuberculosis.
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>tfw you can change your hormone levels in Dark Souls
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>>6387772
An hero.
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>used to get dysphoria as a kid for a couple weeks every few months
>the dysphoric days increased in numbers, and got more numerous
>tfw I can't even go 2 hours now without thinking about it

What is happening to me and how do I stop it? Keep in mind I don't want to be a transgender
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>>6387803
>Keep in mind I don't want to be a transgender
That's not up to you bud, enjoy the ride
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>>6387771
No I just hang out here since orchi isn't feasible and don't know what I am. I was raised male though.

The doctors had to cut my vag open because a half developed scrotum covered the entrance

I would probably be a hon with a vagina if I transitioned. But I don't know.
I only feel drawn here because the vagina always reminds me I'm not a real man.
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>tongue doesn't fit in my mouth
is this an hrt side effect
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>>6387803
Okay, so what do you want to be?
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>>6387795
now we just need to have it have an arbitrary "gender" signifier too so I can play as a trans and kill myself in the game
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>>6387783

Last time I got quads it started quite the adventure.

>>6387790
>>6387785

Thank you. It's...it's complicated

>Tell someone at work about it because she seems nice
>She is
>"Seems like you already know what you want."
>Why does everyone tell me this
>What if I just want to be cute
>What if I just want an escape
>Be huge, everyone tells me what good man I am
>want to cry
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>>6387718
lol! so random XDD!
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>>6387807
more likely an allergic reaction or just some kind of inflammation
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>>6387812
It wants to be human.
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>>6387800

I want to.
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>>6387804
I know but transitioning sounds as bad as dysphoria
>>6387812
Normal
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>>6387805
Huh. Well, you're welcome to hang out here, in any case.

Biology aside, do you have a preference about being a guy or a girl or something else, or not?
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>>6387814
>dying before you even reach SRS
git gud scrub
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>>6387829
>I know but transitioning sounds as bad as dysphoria
I know but your dysphoria is only going to get worse over time and so will your chance of ever passing as a girl if/when you choose to transition.
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>>6387821
something like that.

Though I miss bananas
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>>6387795
>amazing trap ahead +9999999999999999 outside gwyndolin
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>>6387820
Do you just want to be cute?
Do you just want an escape?

If either of those is the case then you can try some different things. Being a femboy, or crossdressing in private, or whatever.

If not, then, well, your friend at work is probably right.

It doesn't sound like you're happy with things as they are, in any case.
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>>6387831
It's honestly really hard for me.
I'm trapped in the middle.
I can't be a girl because I am literally male genetically and hormonally (male skeleton too)
>masturbation or sex is always going to be submissive for me
>can't be a man because I don't have a penis

I would be happy being a fully fledged boy or girl. Not some halfway thing.
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>>6387844

I'm not happy. What I really want is to be happy. To be called ma'am. I dreamed about it all last night.
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help
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>>6387856
okay
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>>6387856
what with hon
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>>6387783
Your skirt will get blown up? ;)
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>>6387791
lol
... ;w;

>>6387820
what happened the last time you got quads????
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>BF1
>no France
>no Russia
>no fucking bolt-action rifles

DICE GO FUCK YOURSELF FUCKING EA AMERASTATJJTSJITJWJTWEJTJIW$ITW$JITI
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>>6387861
life
I'm becoming more manly.
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>>6387865

I started learning to sew. It's been a wild ride.
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>>6387870
W.e just ride the fucking planes and tanks with some buddies. I know I will.
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>>6387873
H o r M o N E s
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>tfw ur a tranny

: (
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>>6387870
>WW1 without France
Quoi? Are they trying to go for the superhuman rosbif meme?
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>>6387870
>no fucking bolt-action rifles
isn't it supposed to be about ww1?
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is it common to lose attraction to cis girls as time on hrt increases? I'm indifferent toward them rn.
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blood test results are back
my testosterone is up
my estrogen is down, she is putting me back on 3mg of progynova
t.sheen
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>>6387880
BUT IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE AS A EUROPEAN I AM INSULTED BY AMERICAN AGGRESSION

ALSO THE PLANES WILL BE FUCKING BIPLANES AND MOST SHOULD BE FRENCH BUT Y'KNOW FUCK HISTORY SO FUCKING KEK EA WILL MAKE THEM ALL AMERIFAT PLANES RUNNING ON FUCKING BURGER GREASE

NO FRANCE SO ALL TANKS WILL LOOK LIKE FUCKING THIS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_World_War_I#/media/File:British_Mark_V_(male)_tank.jpg

AND WILL BE SLOW AS FUCK

NO FUCKING FUN BOLT WEAPONS SO BASICALLY WW2

AND FUCKING AMERICA WILL REAP THE FUCKING GLORY BECAUSE EA SAYS FUCK HISTORY

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>>6387886
Yes, apparently it'll be shotguns and pistols and fuck and the only bolt-actions will be sniper rifles
>>6387884
Yes, apparently
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>>6387870
someone did the maths, for every black soldier there were 139 white soldiers
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>>6387851
I'm not sure if I agree with a lot of those conclusions.

Not having a penis doesn't by itself make you not a man. If a man loses his penis in an accident or from an illness, he doesn't stop being a man. Your situation doesn't sound too different.

You don't need a penis to be dominant, if that's your thing. In any case, penetration isn't dominant and being penetrated isn't submissive, those are separate things.

And about not being able to be a girl because you have a Y chromosome, have gone through puberty on testosterone and have a somewhat masculine skeleton, well, that describes almost everyone that frequents this thread as well.

In any case, if you feel like you really want to be one or the other rather than something in the middle then you should consider doing what you can to be more comfortable with yourself, even if you can't have exactly the body you wish you had.
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>>6387897

It's reasonable to assume one of the effects of HRT is altering brain chemistry to strengthen attraction to males.

I'm already (What little sexual drive I have) fairly bisexual, so...
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>>6387908
The second one looks like fucking Preston Garvey

I'm done i'm fucking done

FUCKING EA PIECE OF SHIT
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>>6387897
It happens to some people.
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>>6387851
huh biologically i'm like the opposite of you only i was raised male too. i've tried being a man and i've tried being a woman and desu it depends just pointing the direction you're most comfortable with (boy or girl) and just kinda going with it. ignore how other people want you to be. be true to how you want your body to be and what feels more natural.
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I hate darksouls I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it
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>>6387904
>tfw they'll probably have the BEC at Verdun
les monstres
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>>6387921
Have you considered gitting gud?
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>>6387921
git gud
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>>6387921
i dropped the first game never to be played again I think it's garbage. I much much prefer 2, 3, demons and bb
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i love all of you so much
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>>6387922
Plus no Russia

I mean, its set in 1918 but until March 1918 Russia was still in the war

INSTEAD IT WILL BE fUCKing DLC DICE CONFIRMED IT
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>>6387917
exactly
there were roughly 3000 australian aboriginals fighting in ww1 but the dude in that picture is clearly of west african heritage
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>>6387908
Pretty sure only France had a sizeable black contingent, and only because of Mangin's "force noire" tentative doctrine, which was a weird piece of racism based on the idea that Africans were superior to Europeans in every way as soldiers.
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>>6387854
Then you should do whatever you feel you need to do to in order to be happy with yourself, ma'am.
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>>6387930
i'm glad one person loves me
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>>6387904
I used to get mad about these things too but weed really mellows me out so im aight.

You cant always get what you want anyways.
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>>6387908
tfw it's whitewashing if they don't have black german and austrailian soldiers >.>

>>6387924
>>6387927
>>6387928
I don't even hate the difficulty, I hate how scary it is ;___;
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>>6387908
It's a video game, not reality

Don't take it so seriously
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>>6387937
what's scary about it???
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>>6387666
Hahahahahahaha!

>>6387737
I feel bad for me too anon :3

>>6387741
The only way to truly feel like a girl is on your wedding day to marry to your hetero cis male partner
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>>6387911
not rlly, the same logic was used to try to "fix" gay people with sex-affirming hormones
sexual orientation has shown no evidence of being manipulatable with hormones in an actual empirical context and it's far more likely that it's just another part of accepting urself and stopping repression rather than trannies being the one group that can have their orientation changed with hormones
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>>6387909

I concur. There's just way too much stress on the "male dominant female submissive thing" (Trust me on that)

Be true to yourself. Ask yourself what you would want, if you could build a new body from scratch, and go with that.
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>>6387937
but its not whitewashing
1 black to every 139 whites
most of these men died in the bloodiest war of last century simply because the technology had improved and the tactics hadnt

>>6387939
its blackwashing of history
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>>6387932
Why is EA such fucking wankers

I fucking bet everyone here £100 that there will not even be fucking artillery or trenches but little French villages devoid of Frenchmen, everyone will be a fucking black Muslim and the americans will have fucking tanks and planes while Germany will have horses or somefuck stupid shit
>>6387936
BUT IT IS LITERLALY AMERICANIZATION OF HISTORY

FUCKING AMERICAN SWINE AGGAERGAERGEARYEARYRYMEYMIAEMIY%AY%IYMA$IM&A$MI%&M$M&$MS&<E<<EMYMERMYMEMYMEMYMERYMERMYMAEMYMEI%M&AN$^MAE$
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>>6387909
I probably will just live a life without ever having a partner. It's just too weird to deal with.

They would think I'm a ftm. A really convincing one. But I'm actually a male.

I think when it comes down to it. I am not mtf because my dysphoria comes from my vagina and not my secondary male traits. So I feel like mtf transition is a way to make my body fit my genitals. Because I can't make my genitals fit my body.
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does anyone else get like pent up affection and feel like they need to hug someone and tell them how great they are or something
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>>6387950
>BUT IT IS LITERLALY AMERICANIZATION OF HISTORY
>FUCKING AMERICAN SWINE AGGAERGAERGEARYEARYRYMEYMIAEMIY%AY%IYMA$IM&A$MI%&M$M&$MS&<E<<EMYMERMYMEMYMEMYMERYMERMYMAEMYMEI%M&AN$^MAE$
Goddamn jews mang
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>>6387954
all the time friendo
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>>6387954
someone in particular?
iktf
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>>6387955
how are you and birdy doing?
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>>6387955
SERIOUSLY THIS IS FUCKING ANNOYING AS A PAN EUROPEAN I AM PISSED AND WILL NOT BUY THIS SHITTY-ASS SHIT FUCK OF AN ABORTION OF A GAME
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>>6387944
actually
they did try to "fix" Alan Turing with anti-androgens

considering that they made him want to kill himself, hormonal balance has nothing to do with sexual orientation
it might give you a sex drive if you had none in the first place, but that's mostly because it's difficult to imagine yourself having sex with the wrong parts

>>6387946
>most of these men died in the bloodiest war of last century simply because the technology had improved and the tactics hadnt
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
because trench warfare was obviously the best idea ever
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literally who even gives a fuck about BF1?
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>>6387958
seriously how does it feel to have the cutest trip possible
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>>6387964
ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew
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>>6387944
Gay males given hrt as a corrective measure were not trans, so who's to say they would respond to hrt in the same way? They probably wouldn't, and afaik it caused severe suicidal depression.

It's likely that the "orientation change" caused by hrt is a bit of both: self acceptance combined with the psychological effects of hrt.
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>>6387963
Actually trench warfare happened for a reason. It was more effective than the Russian idea of "LETS RUSH INTO EAST PRUSSIA LIKE FUCKING IDIOTS"
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>>6387964
i dislike tatoos
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I will literally buy Bad Rats 2 instead of BF1
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FUCKING WANKERS ARE FUCKING DEFENDING EA ON FUCKING PLEBBIT FUCK THOSE AMERIFAT FUCKMImSMSGMSEMGSMEMSEMTmEMTMTIMetsmtmSTMMSTMTSMTMSDTMS?RA<<AIMHAVINGAMINISTROKERFMIFNADGNIDNIGNADIADGN
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>>6387937
>I hate how scary it is
Guess it can be a bit ominous at times. Getting good will make you feel empowered and less scared tho. I was pretty much on the edge of my seat from stress on my first playthrough because I was so scared of dying. After I got better at it it got a lot less nerve-racking

>>6387950
>Why is EA such fucking wankers
Because they can. I personally don't buy any of their multiplayer FPS games even though I'd probably like them because it's basically a subscription service and I just don't feel like paying 120+ dorra for a game.
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i just got this does anyone else use these
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>>6387966
pretty great
she's adorable and I just want to do lewd things with her like holding her hand in public :3
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>>6387975
>>6387980
https://youtu.be/RVmG_d3HKBA
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10487807
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>>6387983
>konjac
I could do with some cognac desu
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>>6387969
see >>6387963

and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMHgqO21qCw

>>6387971
well yeah, but like
if you're trying to attack
don't use static defenses
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>>6387971
And what made WWI trench warfare truly horrible was only developed and implemented as the fighting went on. Chemical weapons, the artillery barrage...
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Everyone post your top 3 trips that you miss

Edie
Caddy
Kiwi
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>>6387993
A fair amount was defending. Like literally taking 10m of land, digging in and defending.
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>>6387928
>like 2, say 1 is garbage
nigger please
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>>6387931
>tfw one of these days they'll make a Battlefield Napoleonic Wars
>America will be a major combatant
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>>6387998
Moof
Caddy
Muffins
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>>6388002
opinions exist to be different. I like literally every other game in gather franchise more than 1
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hi mtfg
anyone want to talk?
i feel kinda lonely right now, just laying in bed digesting that the vast majority of the world would either seek to do us harm or kill us, or would simply sit back and let it happen.
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>>6387946
I would have no issues with the focus on the Harlem Hellfighters if they were fucking fighting under the french flag, which is what they ended up doing because US high command was terrified of using blacks as anything more than ditch diggers.
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DaS1 is objectively the best tho
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>>6388012
Objectively btter than DeS maybe
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>tfw you accidentally leave your dildo in the bathroom for a few hours and other people use the bathroom in that time
Oops lol

>>6387993
I'll give it a listen when I'm at my computer. Also, my opinions on hrt and orientation are sort of mixed. Logically there shouldn't be any effect on orientation and the fact that administering estrogen to gay males didn't have any effect. On the other hand, my sexuality changed a lot on hrt, moreso than I would expect of a self-acceptance thing alone.
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>>6388004
Yeah but like, they have announced that now bolt-action rifles will be for medic+scout class also but even that is fucking bullcrap like people in WORLD WAR ONE will have fucking SMGs, shotguns etc.

BF fans are actually defending this

and America, who didn't even play a large role, are actually getting more time ingame than the most important player in WW1

I literally fucking hate EA fuckwads
>>6388009
Yeah but they can't because no France

fucking EA
>>6388008
Think that's bad? I am going to one of those countries in a week
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>>6388007
adaptability and soul memory is great. i love fighting vendrick, covetous demon and demon of song, very interesting bosses lmao
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Jesus Christ. Every single one of you talks like an anime girl. It's so a obviously fake simulation of what you think girls are.

Do everyone a favor and end your lives now instead of waiting 10 years.
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>>6387998
puru when she's asleep desu
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>>6387952
If that's what you want, but you shouldn't deprive yourself just because you're worried that things might be a bit awkward.
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>>6388019
okay
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>>6388019
i never watched an anime
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i want this dress but idk if it'd look good on me:/
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>>6388016
carol please

you're making me angry

>>6387987
>best milk wins
nice
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>>6388016
DICE knows their audience. They'd probably make the US a major combatant if the game was in the 7yw
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>>6387998
I only miss Edie's feminine penis
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>>6387964
Whichever one is more attractive, but all else equal it'd be pretty nice to have a vagina.
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>>6388009
While the French used them as elite troops which made them big war heroes. It's funny how what once was exploiting the huge popularity of said heroes is getting banned as racist a hundred years later.
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>>6388025
It probably would
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>>6388029
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>>6388025
>tfw trans bod
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>>6388012
bloodborne is barely better than 1. just barely.
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>>6388038
Same :(
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>>6388016
you do realize you showed up like 5 years late to the "I hate EA" party, right?
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>>6388008
Anything in particular you'd like to talk about to get your mind off of that?
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>>6388036
haha you like that huhghh? ? :)(

can i kiss your feminine penis?
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Help!!!!
How do I get a cute /pol/ boy to want me?
I want to be redpilled and take his cum!
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>>6388026
It is a fact that America was hardly a large combatant
>>6388027
Yeah but its so fucking retarded as fucking shit
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>>6388025
I mean, if your shoulders are 14", it probably will -.-
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>>6388046
show him your feminine penis, hold him down like the masculine tranny you are and rip his asshole apart with that peepee
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>>6388045
no, someone beat you to it already.
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>>6388046
>I want to be redpilled and take his cum!
bite his dick when he finishes and you can be redcummed
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i need snuggles
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>>6388019
You're mistaken, we don't think real girls are like anime girls, we just want to /be/ anime girls.
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>>6388051
i...never penetrated anyone before
also i doubt i could hold someone down
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>>6388036
dude where the fuck did remy go anyways
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>>6388044
I don't know. I'm just cripplingly lonely right now.
I think, in the last week I have only come into contact with four people IRL.
My landlady
Her ex husband
2 community psychiatric nurses

I've managed to waste what were meant to be the best years of my life.
I drifted from old social circles.
I've never been in a relationship.
3 and a half years of work and further education after leaving school, and I hit a brick wall and have been NEET for over a year.

The world just seems more hostile when I hardly feel anyone by my side.
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>>6388046
i want /pol/-kun tooo

;__;
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my friends think i'm a tranny
how can i be a better boy?
>>
ily
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>>6387851
>I would be happy being a fully fledged boy or girl. Not some halfway thing
I often joke about my situation by calling myself a "horrible chimera of secondary sexual characteristics"
>my phone predictive typing knows that phrase lol
Buy I really do have to empathize with you for having jumbled up primary sexual characteristics and it wasn't even your choice but the circumstances of your birth
It seems like life has been hard for you and I'll always try to be welcoming if you like hanging out here
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>>6388060
pol boys LOVE being held down and being raped by trannies

you should try it
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>>6388066
Taking estrogen and cutting your balls off
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>>6388061
spoiler, its remy
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>>6388066
You could ask femgen :^)
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>>6388072
done
now what?
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i love everyone
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>>6388073
how u doin mAYYYYYYY(173)8? i thought you died or some shit.
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>>6388072
ELANNA. NOODLES
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Hey speaking of hating DICE
>tfw Mirror's Edge 2 just sorta wriggled out quietly
it's almost like they released it hoping nobody would notice.

>>6388072
kek

>>6388067
ily2 <3
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>>6388084
my cum needs to be in that
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>>6388066
join us at femgen
Take your bica and become a twink lmao
>>6388081
I love you a lot!!!
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>>6388047
i know, i'm trying not to think about it but you're making me want to look up every terrible detail and inform myself of all the stupidity of BF1

>tfw DICE will never be un-acquired by EA and give us another BF1942
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i just want to be a good lesbian housewife desu
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>>6388082
I moved out and had to get my shit together, so much to many peoples disappointment; im not dead.
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>>6388019
I type like I speak in real life (except without uncomfortable pauses and occasional stuttering, fuck typing that out) so if you have a problem, that's unfortunate because as long as I'm going to be myself, I'm going to be myself
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>>6388088
What. Why.
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>>6388089
does femgen go to image cap or bump cap? cause it just hit bump cap.
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>>6388075
>>6388089
wouldn't femgen think i'm weird for cutting my balls off already?
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>>6388077
Grow your hair out, change your name, dress like a girl and wear makeup, suck your friend's dicks and then say "pranked you bro!"

>>6388084
Noodles a best :3
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>>6388046
Flirt with them when they come for their weekly "t-totally not interested in transgirls I j-just like bullying trannies" raid

>>6388055
kato no :D

>>6388095
Sounds pretty great desu
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>>6388097
nice, i just moved a few days ago after getting out of hospital. i never said i was disappointed, you're not allowed to die. who else would step on my dick?
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>>6388103
I want to be bullied by /pol/ so bad!!
>>6388101
nah, so long as you don't try to invert it. We love castration
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>>6388063
That's rough. I'm really not one to talk about socializing, but maybe you could find something social you'd find interesting that you could maybe meet people through?

What is the brick wall that you hit?

It's probably no consolation but honestly the world is probably less hostile towards trans people today than it's been in any preceding decade. Events like what happened in Orlando are worrying, but occur very rarely, so there isn't a huge reason to be afraid, just concerned.
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>>6388099
So I can mix it in and force you to eat it. guaranteed to taste better
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>>6388095
how do I get a rich qt to marry me so I can take care of her
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>>6387963
yeah, that was my point

>>6387969
the logic is the same, that orientation is effected by hormone balance

there's no actual empirical evidence that trannies are the one exception to hormones not changing orientation, maybe they are but maybe anything is the case
>It's likely that the "orientation change" caused by hrt is a bit of both: self acceptance combined with the psychological effects of hrt
Idk how likely it is considering there's no research to support the idea as far as I know and it would be an exception to everything we do know about hormone balance and orientation
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>>6388105
god damn it, also why were you in hospital my negro?
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>>6388102
The sauce has booze in it. And it has bacon, peppers onions, and steak. It's the best thing
>>6388110
Do you like me or something
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>>6388111
How rich and qt does she have to be?
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>>6388108
i'll bully you, but you have to keep your dick, i'm mostly into men..
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>>6388094
Know what's worse? Horses are going to be in the game.

Horses which were basically only used by Russians, who weren't in the game, early war due to trench warfare etc. are being included

Russia+France are confirmed DLC

Black troops are fucking everywhere

Aussies + cancucks are in the game but France isn't

Austria-Hungary will probably have North-German voices

most weapons are either proto-type or IRL rare as fuck, also anti-tank rifles, machine guns, SMGs

MUSTARD.GAS.GRENADES.

there is a fucking mace
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>>6388113
don't act like you don't want to. chest problems. how has hrt been treating you??? todays my 5 yr tranniversary
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>>6388125
Wrong thread, then. Go flirt in /repressiongen/, the girls there will be more your type.
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>>6388122
just enough to have a decent house/apartment and high thread count sheets

doesn't really have to be that qt as long as shes a nice and loving person
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>>6388108
So /femgen/ I've been wondering: do you prefer to keep the sack or get rid of it?
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>>6388125
I'm keeping my dick alright
will you redpill me?
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>>6388117
>Do you like me or something
what do you think?
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>>6388108
>implying some femboys aren't getting it sliced and diced to be the perfect bottom while remaining femboys
Being reverse trap is best desu
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>>6388128
pls consolidate ur ranting or take it to /v/
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>>6388128
Sounds disappointing
I was really excited for it, too
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>>6388136
I sure will you mentally ill degenerate
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>>6388135
Eh, I've been thinking of getting it chopped off. It's not like I use my cock anyways except for oral stuff.
>>
i love you (yes you)
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>>6388128
carol

VERDUN
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>>6388138
I'm taking a wild guess at yes. But why would you like me.
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>>6388147
yes (you)
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>>6388139
I'm just saying that you'll get yelled at by some femboys for wanting that. Personally, I kinda want to get SRS so I can have 3 nice holes for use.
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>TFW crushing on trips while you're in a relationship
>>
Im in one hell of a mood. I need to hurt someone so bad -.-'
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>>6388140
they take all authenticity, fuck it over, throw it out the window, take a big dump on europe and call it a masterpiece
>>6388149
>tfw the soldiers will be brits + black american lesbian muslims to appease americans, brits and SJWs
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>>6388112
Idk, has there actually been any empirical study on this at all? I know it's not entirely accurate but I've consistently seen a large number of trans people self-reporting changes in their sexuality on hrt. I experienced such a change as well so I'm inclined to believe there's more going on here than just self-acceptance.
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>>6388150
>yes

okay you have a sexy penis that i want to suck.
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>>6388152
Some hate it, some enjoy the idea
I want to try triple tbqdesu
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>>6388154
iktf
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>>6388128
>Russia
>ww1
>DLC
are you fucking kidding me
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>>6388128
so basically it's Secret Weapons of WW2, as a WW1 game, as American historical revisionism, as a remake of BF3?

SEEMS GREAT CAN'T WAIT TO BUY IT
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>>6388134
A-are you a boy or a girl?
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>>6388158
Erm. I wouldn't be happy with that desu. Plus it doesn't function at all anyway.
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>>6388142
Yes bby make me into a good boy that loves guns and freedom
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>>6388163
nope. So far only france is confirmed as dlc but either russia will be dlc or not there at all
>>6388166
pls no

resist americanisation, its not even secret weapons of ww2 but SMGs and shitty horses
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>>6388129
about as good as i expected, my face has filled out, skin is cleared up and i have (albeit small) boobs.
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>>6388171
>it doesn't function at all anyway.

thats what makes it cute. its soft and gentle.
pls be my gf
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>>6388156
no carol

VERDUN
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>>6388168
im a gril
>>
I'm so fucking mad right now
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640549/Brazilian-Miss-Bum-Bum-model-reveals-paralysed-waist-throwing-fourth-floor-window-suicide-attempt.html
>Born a hot female
>Model
>Get high on drugs and throw yourself off a building
>Now paralyzed
I would have killed to have been born with her body yet she went and destroyed it
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>>6388128
>Russia+France are confirmed DLC
>confirmed DLC
typical lol

btw, keep in mind that I was a huge Mirror's Edge fan. The "reboot" seems like an aborted fetus of a project that they just tried to hide with bad marketing.

>>6388166
>as a WW1 game
nonono, it's CoD clone with a few WW1 features. Stop giving it more credit than it deserves.
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>>6388152
>>6388143
>>6388139
Is it wrong for me to find this arousing?
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>>6388176
so more progress in a few months than i had in years. nice. is your living situation better now? im just glad you're not dead, come visit i will buy you some heels to step on me with ;)
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>>6388156
>>6388174

I mean I can understand the black troops in fronts like in Sub Saharan Africa but get that shit out of Europe. Christ.
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>>6388179
But I don't even know you.
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BAD RATS 2 HAS BEEN CONFIRMED

LEEEEETTTTSSS GET ROOOOOIGGGHHTT INTO THE RATS
>>6388181
b-but its 18.99 ;__;
>>
>>6388182
I'd be really tempted if I weren't already kind of involved with someone, haha. Good luck though, you'll find someone.
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>>6388035
idk
im shaped weird

>>6388038
>>6388042
same tho lmfao

>>6388050
th-they're not...
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>>6387998
Lyn
socks
FrenchFry
>>
today is my last day as a teenager
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>>6388187
No, absolutely not.
And if it is I'd rather stay wrong
>>
>>6388193
r u want to do it or not?
>>
>>6388189
Yeah, i live with my best friend & his gf, he doesnt give a fuck what i do as long as im happy and she finds this whole trans thing fascinating so im more than happy to sit and chat shit with her all day.
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>>6388191
This guy would want to have a word with you...
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>>6388174
it's too late

i already believe russia didn't partake in WW1 and i'm unwrapping my big mac

>>6388185
it's not a COD clone if it's a rehash of a game worse than COD
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>>6388204
You're only a decade and a day away from being 30! Enjoy your 20s, they'll go by faster than your 10s.
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>>6388196
but it's good tho
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>>6388204
I LOVE YOUR FEMININE PENIS SPARKY BB I'VE BEEN W8ING 4 U
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>>6388173
no, you're staying in between as punishment. you'll be daddies little degenerate and we're going to have lots of freedom, no socialist/jewish sympathies. You'll manage the house while I'm the breadwinner, but when judgement day/the final race war comes, you'll die by my side with me on the front lines like a good pet.
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I'm curious now
http://www.strawpoll.me/10488005
http://www.strawpoll.me/10488005
http://www.strawpoll.me/10488005
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i wanna contribute to thr conversation but idk what y'all talkin bout lol
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>>6388128
>Horses are going to be in the game.
>Horses which were basically only used by Russians
Every participant had major cavalry divisions at the start of the war. And actually it's not talked about much but cavalry made a huge comeback in 1918. You see when the new tanks finally punched through the German lines the infantry couldn't keep up so they needed to bring back the cavalry
>Black troops are fucking everywhere
There were many black soldiers in the war because most of the major combatants had vast African possessions. I've seen many Senegalese, Cameroonian etc troops in real pictures of the war
>Aussies + cancucks are in the game but France isn't
I can't explain this
>>
>>6388204
Happy Birthday
I cried on my 20th
Celebrating your 20th birthday only with online friends is kinda sad
Good luck though
>>
>>6388157

We still know so little about neurology, or what even makes LGBT LGBT. A part of this is probably because it's so barely accepted, but considering true hetrosexuality is rare...
>>
>>6388207
sounds good. do you still succ benises like a fag? still the same job etc? i moved across this cesspool country to live with my sister because she was near homeless. now i got no endo and shit but i don't really care too much.
>>
PAGING /pol/
PAGING /pol/

PLS FUGG ME
>>6388213
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>6388216
but it costs so much
>>
>>6388206
You'll have to get to know me first I think.
>>
>>6388191
>implying the tirailleurs senegelais and malgaches didn't serve on the Front
The first blacks most bulgarians ever saw were french colonial troops fighting under Franchet-d'Esperey.
>>
>>6388224
Depression, sexual orientation, historical inaccuracies in video games and femboys turning their dicks inside out. You know, what we normally talk about.
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>>6388221
yep yep it's been a ride, all memes aside went from mostly into girls, to 50/50 bi, then mostly into guys, now I'm back to like 60/50 in favor of guys.

my gf is the exception tho lol
>>
>>6388140
Uh, no. Mtfg allows a broad range of topics. You can fuck off to /v/
>>
>>6388221
Wtf sbi bans me for no reason.
I didn't even break the rules
>>
>>6388240
That's 110% Korra!
>>
>>6388228
i wish I could give you big hugs with lotsa headpats sometimes!
>>
fuck me /pol/ please too
you can call me a failed man and disgusting all you want
>>
>>6388235
ok describe yourself

im chad .
>>
>>6388245
nigger can't into basic math
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>>6388183
I fell in love with my own version of that. See Gia Carangi. Shooting up heroin gave Gia AIDS.

Many other models died of drug overdoses, and complications from trying to stay so thin. It was a big problem in the industry.
>>
>>6388245
oh whoops lmao not surprisingly I didn't poorly in math at school. I meant 60/40 ><
>>
>Dad keeps whining about me not talking to him about me being trans
>Finally have something to talk about it(looking into switching spironolactone for either lupron or bicalutamide) with him
>Bring it up
>Realize within seconds that the reason he wanted me to talk about being trans was because he had some negative "clever" jab to make about it and I hadn't given him the opportunity to

thx dad
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>>6388214
I'm sure they will yeah, hopefully I won't have to waste them as a boy in a body I hate like how I spent this past decade at least.

>>6388217
Who are you?

>>6388228
I'm going to see if anyone wants to hang out with me tomorrow but I'll probably spend it alone too. Except without online friends I guess since I don't really have any.
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>>6388230
new job, im a chef now, pays well but the hours are unsociable as fuck, its common to finish at 1-1:30am and yes im still sucking that dick like its going out of fashion :^)

I wish you lived here, not 10k miles away :(
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>>6387921
where are you now?
>>6387930
i needed this thanks
>>6387943
dont remind me :c
>>6387954
YES
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>>6388183
a lot of people don't appreciate what they have, and end up wasting it with carelessness

>>6388199
I mean, it might still look good, but idrk

>>6388213
sorryyyyyyyy
>tfw MW2 was amazing
>tfw Advanced Warfare was honestly really fun

maybe "deformed cod clone" is better?

>>6388221
I think it's too soon for me to tell, but I can picture myself having sex for once

>>6388241
>consolidate your ranting
she's saying that Carol needs to at least not spam all over the board with her EA hate

>>6388259
not very far in ;__; I quit, it's too scary for me
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>>6388244
Your whining and asking people to kill you was honestly just getting really weird and annoying, sorry.
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/pol/ pls come back and fugg me
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>>6388231
it's ok carol, america is great

you can have some of my freedom fries if you like
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>>6388156
ok, I don't care, you just don't need a space between every line so everyone can see how mad you are

>>6388157
that's what I mean, there's been no research specific to trans orientation besides maybe as a side-result of trannies being treated with hrt or sex-affirming hormones so all we can go off of is what we do know about hormones and orientation in general
>I've consistently seen a large number of trans people self-reporting changes in their sexuality on hrt
and I've seen large numbers flip back and forth but blame it on hrt each time or blame hrt for changing tastes in media or hobbies
also if hrt WAS the cause then you might expect to see the reverse with sex-affirming hormones and you'd have to explain why only some supposedly change orientation from hrt

ur of course free to believe whatever you want but it's kinda worthless to anyone else without supporting research
with the fuckmess that is repression we probably won't have a clear answer until we have a better understanding of the neurology of gay and trans people
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>>6388256
I'm that person that has been following your posts and I want you.
>>
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/14/hillary-clinton-received-secret-memo-stating-obama-admin-support-for-isis/
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>>6388258
being a chef sounds cool as fuck. you used to finish at like 3am at your old job didn't you? why do you want me to live there? would it mean you'd finally kill me? dicks are pretty gay just saying.
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>>6388250
>chad
Seriously?
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>>6388263
But that isn't breaking the rules and I offered 30k from my life insurance policy.
I mean who would refuse that offer?

So how long am I banned for this time?
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>>6388265
why

i can't wait until britain votes remain and we form eu superstate with russia and crush america
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>>6388279
no. I'm just memeing with you.
but seriously
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>>6388263
Also you try living as a hon and see if you're cheery about it
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>>6388279
>not being a country
s m h
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>>6388249
looks like I'm starting a collection...

it's ok, the marxists have filled your head with shit your whole life, and that's part of the reason you've turned out this way. You have to accept it now, and you can join me in the fight against socialist societal ruination, by living as the perfect "traditional" woman.
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>>6388283
If you're going to keep reminding us about your impending suicide in 61 days, make it 62 days.
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>>6388278
nah i used to work in a store and id do the open so i was up early and home by lunchtime.and no i wouldnt kill you, id torture you by making you live to at least 40 :^)
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>>6387865
hope my beast quads are over but i'm still calling an early night i.e. vidya till it passes me tf out
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>>6388286
Do you seriously like me. Why not like anyone else?
>>6388289
True
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>>6388283
>I mean who would refuse that offer?
I mean, if you make it look sloppy like it was a murder, it's just gonna get me thrown in jail, so I'd probably burn all 30K on a good lawyer.
I need a promise that it's going to be a clean assisted suicide.
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>>6388262
it just doesn't play like COD at all desu, it and all other 3-onwards battlefields are an abortion of what the series originally was because of a small set of fundamental design changes

MAKE TICKETS GREAT AGAIN

>>6388284
>with russia
the offer of fries has been rescinded
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>>6388289
>ERPing as countries
Please leave that stuff in /int/...
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>>6388267
>>6388157
also how would you explain people who claim to have switched to liking just girls if hrt is supposed to increase your attraction to men by feminising your neurology or whateves?

it just doesn't seem to follow to me desu
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>>6388295
Why add a day?
>>
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>>6388302
I have a plan and a promise
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>>6388298
you sick fuck. you know that i hate living more than anything. this is not my fetish pls refrain. besides my body wouldn't last until 40 regardless.
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>>6387964
i dont even care about the dick, the vagina-thing, vaginoid cave or whatev looks disgusting
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>>6388303
I actually have BF3 on origin, courtesy of a Humble Bundle.
3 was fun. I placed loads of tank mines everywhere and would be rewarded with random vehicle kills :3

>>6388311
interesting...
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>>6388291
I'll be a good woman!
destroy feminism! Let me do everything to make men happy!
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>>6388307
So I don't have to deal with "hurr durr i'm killing myself today" on the 15th and can move onto the 16th where she's still alive.
>>
>feel kinda bad
>read some yaoi manga
>suddenly feel a million times better

thanks Love Stage! <3
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>>6388262
>she's saying that Carol needs to at least not spam all over the board with her EA hate
And I'm saying that it's at the very least 100% acceptable to do it on mtfg
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>>6388252
>died at the age of 26
Fuck sake what a waste. meanwhile I was born a fat hairy ugly man
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>>6388320
Oh ok
Fair enough
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Hey everyone!! The HRT appointment went well and today was actually really fun! Here's me doped up on Xanax laughing about nothing in particular but I couldn't stop laughing
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>>6388312
irc nignog? having a convo over 4chan is total aids
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>>6388335
Get out.
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who /fujoshi/ here?
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>>6388340
I will pray for you
>>
does anyone else spend literally all day cuddling their pillows
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>>6388310
>"freedom from"
>good
too bad i already read the handmaid's tale in school

>>6388315
it was fun desu but more of a dumb fun than 2/vietnam/1942

i can't be doing with that
>>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3640850/I-ve-lots-men-Woman-beard-tells-Morning-inundated-romantic-offers-going-public-unique-look.html#comments

Why do bearded women always claim that laser didn't work when trannies all manage to get rid of their facial hair permanently with the same procedure? Methinks they are just lazy and jumping onto the everyone is beautiful feminist bandwagon. if a fucking hairy-ass Navy Seal can get rid of his beard forever then why can't a woman? Cis-women just can't be bothered to try anymore
>>
>>6388334
ily grace
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>>6388340
calm down, there's no such thing as conversion just appropriation. i mean unless trump wants to deport white kids, too; i'd like to see that
>>
Oh jeez somethings about to happen. Will update
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>>6388317
No, you'll be the BEST woman, or else you won't get to hold hands with me in public when we watch big papa finally glass the middle east.
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>>6388355
ily2 anon!
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>>6388359
Yes sir!
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>>6388334
>Fee option available
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>>6388357
all ears, you okay?

i'm actually online on skype btw
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>tfw straight
>tfw no Grace gf
Why the fuck is she so cute
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>>6388357
???
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>>6388271
Fucking Trumpets are desperate.

Lol
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>>6388360
pm tits
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>>6388305
>>6388267
I think (obviously speculation) that it's just down to causing some sort of unspecified neurological change whereby orientation may or may not change and may go either direction. I don't have an explanation, but I do know straight to gay happens from time to time, albeit with a lower frequency. My experience was going from romantic nonsexual attraction to females and no known attraction to males to being primarily sexually and romantically attracted to males with slight romantic attraction to females.
The reason could be hrt, or maybe I was just repressed, it's a complicated question as to exactly why and I don't think there's an easy answer. There's no hard evidence though, given I didn't actually experiment with guys until I was already on hrt.

I personally believe that hrt is at least -partially- responsible, albeit not entirely. It's all a feels thing though.
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i want to kiss grace
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>>6388350
>>6388350
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>tfw tractor has no air conditioning.
>tfw new blower motors cost $180 each and it uses two.

>tfw did to much today. again...

>>6388330
In '79 she really hit on me hard during a photo shoot. Sadly we weren't sexually compatible, and I was a but young. Gia was lesbian, and I still had a D. She became my drug buddy in '80. We shot up heroin together. I managed to get clean. She continued to shoot up. ;___; We were both mentally very fucked up due to our childhoods. She likely had PTSD or C-PTSD. I remember enough to know she was showing multiple symptoms, and she had the right fucked up circumstances during her childhood to get C-PTSD. Drug abuse was nearly a forgone conclusion for both of us.
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>Hilary, you are draining too much life from me
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>>6388366
Sliding fee. I used it while I was still in the closet and my appointments only cost me $15. They need to at least try to cover some cost of operation. I think they get the rest of the money from the government when you use that.
I believe in desperate cases where you have no money they'll cover all of it.
>>6388371
W-why do you think I'm so cute gosh
>>6388377
Who exactly am I pming them to?
>>6388379
Come get it ~
>>
>>6388387
It's obvious
>>
>>6388334
I'm glad it went well!

(Have you quit your job yet?)
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>>6388387
post butt
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im gay
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>>6388376
no need for desperation when the facts are available
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>>6388386
>Disrespecting the greatest american president ever.
Fucking chumps.
>>
>>6388396
aka agp transbian chaser couple, get out reee and etc
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>>6388396
Trip on maddie
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>>6388405
i wish i was maddie
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Oh, I did a lot of shopping with my mom and got all this stuff! I'm feeling a little more confident shopping for girl clothes in person but I still let her do the bra shopping for me
>>6388391
Thank you Joan!
I didn't get a chance today, I didn't get home until 9 so I'll print out a short resignation letter and drop it off there tomorrow since I got nothing to do
>>6388396
PUREST FORM OF LOVE
>>6388389
Really I'm notttt
>>6388395
I'm gonna do some shaving tonight so maybe you'll get lucky.
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>>6388397
>Briebart
>Facts
Pick one, desu.

I guess now that Trump was revealed as an idiot for jumping the gun on "radical islam" we best make up some bulshit story.

Nevah change ;)
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>>6388416
Prove that you aren't.
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>>6388381
do you have any pictures of him?

>>6388396
one of us
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>>6388384
Please, be careful. I'm so worried about the way work affects you...
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>>6388402
dude isn't looking well
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>>6388351
well laser is less effective for some people too but then there's electrolysis too
also
>While she hasn’t been officially diagnosed, Rose believes

>>6388378
>may or may not change and may go either direction
that's a pretty shaky seeming hypothesis that doesn't rlly advance our knowledge imo
also there's still my question of how you'd explain people who claim to like guys before but not after if u think orientation changes from some neurological feminization or something from hrt

hrt could somehow be partially responsible but I don't think there's any good reason to assume that's the case when it contradicts everything else we know about hormone balance and orientation and people switch back and forth and blame hrt each time
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>>6388405
When can I go back in?
:/
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>>6388419
so Orlando didn't happen then?
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>>6388346
I thought I was the only one :3
I bring a pillow around to hug all day when I'm sleepy.

>>6388350
it was a very dumb fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR6cfWSy0Yc&list=PLA0B17928287D22B9&index=11

>>6388387
>I believe in desperate cases where you have no money they'll cover all of it.
they put off my charges until the next time I came in, since I was both uninsured and had no money at my first appointment
now I have both insurance and income, so they'll charge me a bit more
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>>6388396
ugh who has the power to ban me, why am i still here?

i wish transbian couples were cute and made me feel good about the world like the infographics suggest i should, instead they're just really angry people in my facebook feed

wait--is anyone happy desu?
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>>6388396
Haram
>>6388421
Nayzak? No
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what are you listening to, /mtfg/?
>>6387706
>tfw you will never pass, so you're a man with tits
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>>6388438
i cant support an anti yuri religion desu
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>>6388433
I pass
All of my legal documents reflect who I am
I have friends
I have a job that I'm passionate about

I am happy, and if I can be happy, anyone can. Work hard and make good things come to you.
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>>6388443
peace and quiet because the other tranny who talks way too much didn't show up to raid
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>>6388420
sent
>>6388430
>they put off my charges until the next time I came in, since I was both uninsured and had no money at my first appointment
>now I have both insurance and income, so they'll charge me a bit more
Mhm, informed consent clinics are usually really good about supporting everyone they can
>>
>>6388443
fuck forgot link
https://youtu.be/cBdoB9rRFTc
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>>6388443
Grounds for Divorce - elbow
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>>6388384
What you knew her??
>>
>>6388443
hi :3
>>
>>6388419
really, that's what revealed him as an idiot to you?

not great policy proposals like we'll just sell fake missiles to iran or we'll borrow money to do stuff and if it doesn't work out we can just default and renegotiate like one of his bankrupt companies
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>>6388443
the only two songs anyone need listen to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1w4IxCXIxU
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>>6388427
See >>6388295
One way or another if all you want to talk about is killing yourself find another place to do it. I don't actually want to keep banning you for two months but go get some fucking help and some new conversation topics before coming back.
>>
>>6388443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF68OyTlP4E
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>>6388445
i'm happy if ur happy

i didn't bother with legal documents, i don't think they'll make me happy, they can't love me like parchment made of human skin
>>
yo does anyone know what happened to kiwi? it seems like she just disappeared
>>
>>6388428
>Republicans changing the conversation and never facing facts.

Lol. I'm done with your bullshit. Have fun tooting your sad pathetic Trumpet.
>>
>>6388365
*pats on head*
>>
>>6388433
i'm happy

>>6388430
nothing will ever top wake island 1942 desu

>>6388438
no, mohammed
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>>6388464
She's going through some rough times and felt like it would be for the best that she isolated herself for a while.
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>>6388460
Ok just lift the ban and I'll stop :/
Please
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>>6388465
I'm not changing the conversation
you say that Trump jumped the gun on radical islam when we just had a man with links to ISIS shoot up a gay nightclub murdering 50 people and wounding another 50
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>>6388468
Here's a good, instructive book about the life of Mahomet. With pictures!
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>>6388424
But there are studies indicating that sexual differentiation of brain structures extends into adulthood:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
And the actual physical structure of the brain changes in adults on hrt:
http://m.eje-online.org/content/155/suppl_1/S107

What this says to me is not necessarily that it will cause an orientation change, but rather that physiological changes occur in the brain due to hrt. Given we don't actually know what brain structures are responsible for orientation, a reasonable hypothesis is that structural changes in the brain can lead to a rerolling of the orientation dice. Obviously, this is not backed up by any study, but it's not unreasonable to assume that it could happen.
>>
I like all of you :3
>>
>>6388464
>tfw you left /mtfg/
>nobody mentions you
>everyone is probably happy
I sympathize with Omar Mateen for this reason
>>
>>6388484
there's also the nurture over nature argument
everyone represses initially, anything that they can to maintain the fact they're a dude and then they transition and allow themselves to be who they are and suddenly realise
>wait a second, I like X
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>>6388480
i remember when breivik similarly shot countless young people but we were like "but i can sortof understand why the guy did it"
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I think I should destroy all pictures from my late teens. They make me think about what could have been and all I've lost. And it just makes me feel ugly and miserable.
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>>6388490
did you like make any friendships with anyone from here? I care about my friends and want to know what the fuck happened to them
>>
>>6388490
maybe you were just a bad person
>>
>>6388496
> And it just makes me feel ugly and miserable.

Because you are an ugly miserable old hag and will be for the rest of your pathetic life.
>>
>>6388484
but changing sexual differentiation doesn't necessarily equate to changing orientation and everything we do know on the topic points towards orientation being resistant to change from hormones, people use the same shit as "evidense" that trannies just think their way into being trans

>Given we don't actually know what brain structures are responsible for orientation
well it's not completely understood but we have observed neurological differences in gay people like we have in trannies so we may have a place to start looking and comparing

>a reasonable hypothesis is that structural changes in the brain can lead to a rerolling of the orientation dice
that's hardly reasonable without supporting research
people used to(and some still do) think that something similar about gay people was reasonable too, doesn't make it the case
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>>6388446
sounds fun senpaitachi.
>>6388454
hi!
>>6388458
maga
>>6388462
tainted love is a really good song senpaitachi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GUnUGKgWDY
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>>6388447
agreed. If you have money, you use it so that others that need the same help don't need to have quite as much to get it.

>>6388484
>And the actual physical structure of the brain changes in adults on hrt:
it says it specifically changes the hypothalamus... and I totally know what this is and what it does from that neurology class I never took >.>
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should i shave before or after I exfoliate and cleanse
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>>6388526
I believe you're supposed to exfoliate after shaving to prevent the dead skin cells from clogging up the pores
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>>6388499
they'r prob ok. i hope they r at least. i'm sorry u'r worried, is it just over leaving here? idk the situs, but at least in general there are so many reasons to feel like anyone's absence from the internet might be a good sign rather than bad
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>>6388531
ok thanks grace ily
>>
>>6388484
also as far as I know there's nothing to suggest that tranny brains are somehow more plastic than cis ones so again, why would trannies be the only exception to hormone balance not changing orientation?
it just doesn't make sense to me
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>>6388507
Maybe not. I'm miserable at times and there isn't much I can do about it. Ugly is almost entirely about regrets, though, I know I'm not. I probably will end up caving in and accepting ECT if nothing changes. With some luck, I'll forget enough to be free from those feelings.
>>
all i want for Christmas is proper queer representation in the media
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>>6388457
Actually I knew he was some sort of hot aired filled idiot when during one of his 4 bankruptcies when he decided to go on WWE to shave some idiot to earn some bucks and pay his creditors.
>>
would u wear this
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>>6388422
Trying. Sitting is a tractor bouncing across a field takes more energy than I thought.

>>6388453
Yeah, I was an assistant photographer who both worked with Avedon, and Scavullo. Gia was a favorite of Scavullo. I also modeled along side of her one day. That was the day she flirted like crazy with me not realizing I was a crossdressed boy. It was the third or 4th time I filled in for a missing model. The January after that we ran into each other on the street. I was a bit frazzled after not being able to find a hardware store that was supposed to be near where I lived. Soon after that we were drug buddies.

>>6388496
Don't destroy them, but put them away in a lock box. Even though I cry when I look at my old self, I'm glad I now have those photos after not having them for decades.

>>6388526
Actually, don't exfoliate immediately. Wait a few hours after shaving for the skin to recover. Also you should exfoliate twice a week.
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>>6388531
>tfw you should actually shave / epillate before you shower

>>6388552
only if it suddenly became cool to come out as trans
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>>6388552
no i don't want any of those things
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>>6388552
If it ended with eat pizza I would
>>6388558
I try to do both in the shower, actually.
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>>6388556
>you should exfoliate twice a week
Shit I've been exfoliating daily
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>>6388490
Sass? Are you dramawhoring again?
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>>6388561
>tfw you have an epilator that needs to be plugged in
yeahhhhhhhh about that...
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>>6388464
kiwi got sexually assaulted and is getting treated at a local hospital
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>>6388542
wtf? ect won't make you forget like that. that isn't how it works
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>>6388569
Get a waterproof one you can use in the bath
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>>6388565
someone is, and it's best ignored.
>>
>tfw no pancakes with Grace
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>>6388573
>get a waterproof one
unfortunately, my parents are kinda stingy about helping me, and I don't feel like shelling out $70 on a quality epilator just yet
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>>6388520
Everything we know about hormones and their effects on orientation comes from treatment of gay males with estrogen, and lesbians with testosterone ie. We really don't know much about it. How does hormone treatment affect straight males and females? How does it affect mtf patients?
>that's hardly reasonable without supporting research
With no research, it's also unreasonable to assume the null hypothesis is true though.

>>6388541
There's one thing that I do wonder as well: self-reported orientation changes are often an increased attraction to males in MtFs and an increased attraction to females in FtMs. If this is the case, then isn't the data from gay males attracted to males already not necessarily an accurate indication of brain plasticity? Gay males are already attracted to males, something that leads to differentiation changes would probably be far less likely to cause an orientation change in that case would it not?

>>6388492
This is also a possibility, but can repression extend so far as to be completely unaware of something?

>>6388522
What does it do?
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>>6388585
>What does it do?
ur mum
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>>6388499
No. Sass and Sirona were alright, rest of you were bitches. I hope ISIS bombs you all.
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>>6388585
>This is also a possibility, but can repression extend so far as to be completely unaware of something?
it can if you're trying to put up the facade of being a manly man who likes men I MEAN GIRLS GIRLS, YEAH GIRLS
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>>6388580
I'm sorry!! I wish you could have come! I ended up going to Chick fil a with my mom!
>>6388584
Quality epilators do a quality job
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>>6388593
But I mean so far as being completely unaware of any attraction to males. Putting on a facade implies that you're aware that you're faking or hiding something.
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Blonde hair on black girls yay or nay?
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>>6388601
i think it looks cute it really depends on the person tho
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>>6388595
Don't worry, we'll make IHOP happen! That Uber driver seriously almost killed us like 8 different times too
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>>6388601
it screams hoe
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>>6388601
god no
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>>6388595
Wow chick fil a traitor to the lgbt community much how dare you
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>tfw will never to the range with Grace and hear her ding a garand
being europoor sucks
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>>6388611
That's the point
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>>6388552
I had one that I made back in the '90s on bisexual erasure.

it said:
>eat pizza
>learn everything
>dance the
>night away
>and end
>bisexual
>erasure

I first wore it to a Because conference.

>>6388564
if your skin can handle it, fine. Some may need to do it more often, and others less often.
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I love my new epilator so much

Everything is annihilated

My arms and legs and body are sooo smooth
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>>6388585
I-I have no idea

>>6388595
>translation
$$$ = :)

>>6388593
afaik, I've been closet gay but didn't have enough of a sex drive to justify coming out or considering myself gay

>>6388619
chick fil a is good
they can't do shit politically
and as long as they don't deny me food 6/7 days, I'm totally fine with whatever they believe
besides, a day off would be nice -.-
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>>6388609
Yeah! Schedule your next appointment on the same day as me and we'll make it work!
>>6388619
I guess I should have bought something fromt he PRIDE section at Target
>>6388622
I'll come plant the seeds of democracy in Finland.
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>>6388565
I take offense to that anon! Even while shitposting I'd never sympathize with that disgusting human being.

I was just seeing an interview with a survivor of the shooting and it broke my heart when he broke down because he felt guilty for hiding under the body of a dead person, while most of his friends died.
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this former sub slave pet of mine noticed my arm and is all weirded out haha

I told her my hrt was sexy pills, to make me sexier
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>>6388629
is no-no any good? my mum was telling me to get no-no but it's £250
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>>6388629
is it quid?

>>6388637
yeah, it's quid
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>>6388632
I was just shitposting sorry if it didn't come across that way.
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>>6388639
No no.
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>>6388595
>tfw no kfc

>>6388597
well I mean personally I was pretty deep in the facade, I knew I liked guys back in primary school and then in high school grade 8 I got picked on for having pictures of guys covering my books and then pretended to only like girls from that moment on, into giving up on transitioning ever and up until I started accepting that I needed to transition at 29, and then I was like
>hey, I also like guys too don't I
I mean, I stayed a virgin all the time during repression because I didn't want to use my junk in some girls vagina (which I was envious of) even though the test was telling me I did and I also had an irrational fear that the girl who I would have sex with would tell that I was a tranny somehow.
repression is weird, the logic is completely off... and I wish I could tell myself at 18 to just transition and that all my fears and anxiety are mostly baseless, it would have stopped me from becoming a hon
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>>6388636
Am I too edgy for you?
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>>6388585
why would it be different though?
we know that gays have some neurological feminization/masculinization so if hrt does change orientation then it could be that it changes things to be like gays but that wouldn't make sense at all for people who change orientation in the opposite direction, like I have no idea where in biology you're basing this "re-rolling the die" on, and it still wouldn't explain why it's only true for trans people because again there's nothing I know of that suggest our brains are more plastic
it's an argument that anti-trans advocates try to make that our neurological differences are just from our lifestyle or hrt because hrt can effect the brain whether you're trans or not
>With no research, it's also unreasonable to assume the null hypothesis is true though.
you're basically making an assumption that there's some unproven exception though
>self-reported orientation changes are often an increased attraction to males in MtFs and an increased attraction to females in FtMs
are they? do you have any stats?
>something that leads to differentiation changes would probably be far less likely to cause an orientation change in that case would it not?
would it? based on what? again people claim orientation changes in either direction supposedly from hrt
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>>6388645
So what brand is good then?
>>6388646
I only ever fucked hookers. I did not enjoy it. I strongly believe it was because don't like using my penis but part of me always wondered what if it was because I never had sex with someone who actually liked me? Oh well I'll never know
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>>6388646

>webm

I wish I could do that
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>>6388646
>that gif
fucking damn son
I need to do that some time
impossible not to get thicc after that
well I mean she probably spent the next couple of hours throwing up but you know
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>>6388661
google webm for retards
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god im so fucking bored i want to kill myself.
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>>6388648
Nope, it's just sad.
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>>6388672
I think they were referring to the webm in the post
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>>6388667
>gif
o shit
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>>6388673
No pls don't
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>>6388643
I've actually had this argument with people, that's the worst part.
I have to justify my own addiction to their waffle fries

>>6388585
ok, so this is interesting
I was reading up on hormones secreted by the hypothalamus, and came across this one
>Oxytocin: Oxytocin is involved in a variety of processes, such as orgasm, the ability to trust, body temperature, sleep cycles, and the release of breast milk.
http://www.endocrineweb.com/endocrinology/overview-hypothalamus

soooo transitioning might actually help me get over my paranoia o.o
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>>6388667
I want to learn how to eat even like one or two of those portions in less than an hour lol
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i want to be quids pet slave
>>
hiya senpaitachi
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>>6388646
>that webm
I wanna see her tummy!!!
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>>6388676
What I don't like about /mtfg/ is that it's too normal. Everyone has 1000 friends, gets emotional over a shooting.... The shooting was tragic but this is 4chan, jokes are made. It's a shame /r9k/ doesn't like trannies
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hi i just got a gf (my first gf ever) and she's a tranny

she's really cute and smart and nice but she also cries a lot and talks about how she wants to kill herself. i dont know what to do when she does that and when i ask what to do she tells me to shut up and calls me an idiot.

should i really just shut up or should i do something else like hug her or something
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>>6388708
you should dump her and sit on a nice guy's dick desu
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>>6388708
shut up and pat her head
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>>6388708
pat head
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>>6388708
>not hugging your gf tight and giving her headpats anytime she cries

what are you doing
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>>6388672

I mean I wish I could eat 8 plates of chicken
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>tfw YOU DIED
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>>6388673
Death is probably even more boring.
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>>6388659
I'm glad that I never did but at the same time I'm a 32 year old virgin and I'll never get a boyfriend so.

>>6388661
>>6388667
I couldn't do four buckets, two max at a stretch on a suicidal day

>>6388708
headpats, headpats and pizza for really bad days
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>>6388711
no way that's gross dude

i want her to get hers cut off but she says she doesnt want to

>>6388712
>>6388717
>>6388718
ok ill try that but she says she doesnt like being touched though
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>>6388708
>Have someone who loves you
>Want to kill yourself
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>>6388597
there are literally cases of repression from abuse and stuff where they completely forget or block something out for years

repression's a hell of a drug
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>>6388732
hug her anyway
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>>6388718
>tfw the person you like doesn't live in the same state
What do I do if I can't hug and headpat?
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>>6388691
quid is mine and I'm not sharing ~
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>>6388731
Who you are attracted to defines your virginity status. If you're not into women then you're not really a virgin.
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>>6387998
Sage
Raifu
Adri
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So much pain
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>>6388732
>she says she doesnt like being touched
if I couldn't give my gf hugs and headpapts I'm not sure that relationship would work desu
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>>6388743
but I never had sex with women or men
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>>6388732
you're already fucking gay for dating a tranny lol
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>>6388734
Having a bf or gf doesn't make all of the pain go away unfortunately.
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>>6388752
is that really true? she told me it wasnt gay

what if she gets her thingy cut off would it still be gay
>>
>>6388731

I managed to add enough peanut butter to my oatmeal to eat a 1000 calorie breakfast once, but my stomach hurt for a while after that.
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>>6388732
>he wants her to get SRS, she doesn't want to
Isn't it usually the other way around?
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>>6388658
It's different because if orientation is entirely based on neurological feminization/masculinization (I don't actually think it is), then gay males would already have a feminized orientation, and data from the effects of HRT on gay males would be effectively useless for describing the effect of HRT on people with presumed attraction to females.
>do you have any stats?
There are no stats on any of this information, all information beyond the studies discussed already is anecdotal. However, I have very frequently seen people both here and elsewhere who describe orientation changes as saying it made them more into men, whereas in the entire time I've been on imageboards I've seen a total of 1 person who claims that HRT flipped their orientation to lesbian. Anybody else who had this happen is welcome to come forward right now, but I suspect the numbers are still extremely disproportionate.

Idk, I say rerolling the die because it's really the only explanation I can think of within the framework of neurological changes on HRT that could explain how orientation can change both directions, a hard and fast feminizing/masculinizing model wouldn't allow for this.

I need to reiterate, this is not science, just some way of rationalizing what happened to me, and what numerous others claim happened to them. Science doesn't currently have an explanation for it, and given the dubious ethics of actually doing such a study, I doubt it actually will.

>>6388685
Generally your mental health improves after transitioning.

>>6388646
See, maybe you knew you liked guys that early and then pretended to only like girls. I was completely unaware of any attraction to guys, but also aware of needing to feign attraction to girls.

>>6388735
I was not abused though.
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>>6388756
It's not fucking gay, don't listen to that retard.
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>>6388735
>>6388597
also more specific to orientation, lots of gay people can be RLLY repressed and not admit it to themselves for most of their life
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>>6388756
yes. enjoy, gayboi. i bet you bottom for her lmao
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>>6388751
Are you a wizard?
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>>6388756
Yes. The only way to redeem your hetrosexuality is to cut it off and wear it around your neck. Only then will the sexuality police allow you to call yourself straight.
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>>6388758
yeah that's what she said too, but she says she doesnt want it because she's scared it will turn out bad

>>6388764
ok cool i wont

>>6388766
no i dont, how come you are picking on me
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>>6388770
I started spiro before I turned 30 but estrogen after so I guess I guess I still count as a wizard
it sucks though because I didn't get any magical powers to be able to to turn myself into a girl I just have to take these pills that don't work on me because I'm too old
>>
bravely second is p fun I'm glad I got a 3ds for this
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>>6388773
They're likely picking on you because they are a disgusting man in a dress who could never hope to actually get a straight boyfriend.
Anyway, it can be really tough dating a tranny while they're still going through everything but everything should work out if you can deal with her shit for now and just help her through it and be there for her.
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>>6388639
My ten dollar epilator I got at some drug store worked fine for a year, this 35 dollar one I got from Walgreens today is even better

You don't need to spend much to get good results, it's like video cards that get exponentially more expensive for less and less return

Just buy a cheap one and dip your toe in, if you make it past the initial pain you'll learn to do it gently but effectively, and your skin will be desensitized to it and it's honestly such a. Nice massage

Good luck ç:

>>6388691
.-.
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>>6388658
Actually, I was reminded of a study from not too long ago, this is an interesting read:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192544/

Change in attraction towards males is more common for MtFs and attraction towards females more likely in FtMs
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>>6388784
oh if that's true then that is sad i hope everything turns out okay for her
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>>6388784
>they are a disgusting man in a dress who could never hope to actually get a straight boyfriend
*he
and basically desu
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>>6388763
>Generally your mental health improves after transitioning.
I feel my mental health improving enough to get through long days of work without mental breakdowns, even though I've been on AAs for about 2 weeks. Maybe I'll be happy by the time I get on E.... or maybe I'll just cry more.
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Sometimes I miss this place then I get on MTFG and I realize I really miss this place.
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y'all some nasty yall kno that?
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>>6388801
hey sam, how are things?
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>>6388775
Why have you never had sex?
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>>6388807
even me ; (
>>
hi nerds!
I love y'all!
what's shaking?
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>>6388829
idk I guess I just never really got the opportunity
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>>6388833
>what's shaking?
butts
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>>6388829
combination of not really liking girls all that much while repressing and telling myself that I did and being a completely disgusting hon right now so no guy would ever date me
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>>6388837
Oh gosh, do I need to show mine off again?
Also thanks for reminding me to do my squats
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>>6388832
especially not you!
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>>6388833
red will u marry me
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>>6388844
You have a cute butt so why not. Also I'm doing squats right now!
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>>6388836
you fucking lying slut wtf
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i dont think that's actually quid she's at work rn
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>>6388849
yeah bby
can I wear a pretty wedding dress? Also, can we have a catholic wedding?
>>6388857
good girl! Get in those squats!
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>>6388868
yes :3
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>>6388763
>if orientation is entirely based on neurological feminization/masculinization (I don't actually think it is)
well it might not be but it's the only physical observable evidence that we've found, obviously we haven't even begun to understand it tho
>then gay males would already have a feminized orientation
but why would that matter if trans people can switch orientation in either direction?
>There are no stats on any of this information
then claims of "often" are pretty worthless and might as well not be mentioned because they could easily be selection error

I wouldn't say I "flipped orientation" but before hrt I identified more as bi but I believe that I was never really attracted to men like I am
some cis gay people try to convince themselves that they like the opposite sex because they can't accept themselves
>Idk, I say rerolling the die because it's really the only explanation I can think of within the framework of neurological changes on HRT
but it has no basis in any biological mechanism I'm aware of, there's no other instance of "rolling the die" so it really seems like you're just trying to fit biology to your assumptions
>I was not abused though
you could argue that trans people are abused by society in a way but anyway it's already known that people can deeply repress their orientation to the point of convincing themselves they're attracted to people they're not

I just don't think it's reasonable to assume all these unsupported mechanisms and exceptions when repression is already a known factor and reasonable explanation imo,
I'll stop arguing now
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>>6388807
Yes

>>6388811
Ok-ish? How have you been tho?
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what kind of music should I listen to while im in the shower
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>>6388878
Drone metal
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>>6388868
>good girl! Get in those squats!
I like hip bridges more tbdesu, less strain on knees but they're all fun!
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>>6388872
I want to be married so bad....
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>>6388873
>it's already known that people can deeply repress their orientation to the point of convincing themselves they're attracted to people they're not
that hit a little too close to home...

>>6388881
I totally agree.
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>>6388881
ok ill put on boris
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>>6388875
poorish to completely bad, but its good seeing you :)
still working at the garden center in the office?
dating anyone?
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>>6388883
I love hip bridges but mine look like I'm pelvic thrusting the air
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>>6388881

why does this sound so fitting?
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>>6388885
same anon. but it has to be with my soul mate. I wanna wait till in at least 5-6 years on hrt and had been dating the person for at least 3
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how do I skip to the part of my life where i pass and im married to a qt who likes cuddling and I have a vagina
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>>6388886
sorry
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>>6388897

A good friend of mine was just dumped by his "soul mate" after 5 years of dating.
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>>6388899
chances are it's never gonna happen, sorry.
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>>6388892
What's poorish?

Yeah I'm still working at the hardware store, it's already been 2 years, just got a pretty decent raise but it's still not like amazing ya know?

I don't do that stuff I mean I'm still no going out an stuff.
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>>6388904
fuk u rawr
>>
but for real I'm going to be married to Kaylee! She's my direction in life
And maybe because I'm the boy, I'll wear a tight suit or something. Or just a dress!
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>>6388909
well it's probably never going to happen to me but for you it might since i forgot not everyone is a repulsive hon.
sorry for the confusion
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>>6388903
sucks to hear. =( maybe I'm a naive hopeless romantic that wants something that doesn't exist anymore...
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>>6388842
To he latter I'm right with you, it's a choice thing because I feel like a hon right now but to the former I genuinely did like girls pre-transition and try it was just that they didn't like me.
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>>6388902
it's fine
there was this girl that I really liked, but also made me really really mad for no apparent reason
she's really pretty, but I wouldn't say I wanted to screw her at any point. She's just the exact girl I would likely have been if I were cis.
>>
jeeze, whats with everyone calling each other / themselves hon?
y'all need to calm down, please, you're being dramatic
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>>6388908
poorish, things haven't been good
congrats on the raise tho, extra money cash cash is always good.
>I don't do that stuff
you should :)

>>6388916
you and elanna are both in the position of being pretty much done with transition and just need to find a sweet guy and try to ignore the dysphoria tho
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>>6388903
>believing in soul mates
I enter every relationship expecting to be dumped one day. Can't get hurt this way.
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>>6388929
don't think i can be done with transition when i still have a man's body and face.

don't even compare me to elanna, she's super pretty but i'm a disgusting faggoty man in a dress.
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>>6388893
Slow moves feel betttter~
(and since I do these naked it avoids the awkward gt physics lol)
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>>6388928
I am a hon tho

>>6388939
I'm not going to get into this again rawr.
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>>6388918

Yeah, I feel bad for the guy. Especially since they were living together and he's probably going to have to move back in with his parents now.

>>6388931

>tfw I was the one who initiated the breakup in my only relationship so far
The whole soul mate thing is dumb though, I agree.
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>>6388893
I mean
that's what they are
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>>6388929
>things haven't been good
Kaaay I wont pry.
>you should
The problem being that I still don't feel much better about stuff.

I just got my hormone panel and my estrogen was like sky high for no fucking reason but I still don't feel like anything is different.

Basically still wearing dude clothes most of the time but it's weird cause I don't get what people see ya know?
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>>6388943
you look better than i do. at least you pass.
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>>6388939
>I'm a disgusting faggoty man in a dress.
>With a vag

You're just an average woman now. :3
>>
>>6388928
I'm the honnie-est hon hon honnity hon in hon-ville so ha!
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>>6388953
it's not a vagina, it's literally just a sliced up penis.
>>
I wouldn't even mind looking like an ugly girl I just wanna stop looking 100% looking like a guy
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>>6388959
actually its a sliced up ball sack with the vulva and clitoris being made from the pernus
>>
>>6388962
Have you tried taking hormones?
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>>6388969
yeah but it still isn't a real vagina. and you can't be an average woman when you look like an average man.
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>>6388972
i do
>>
yikes
this is why i like hanging in femgen
no self-perpetuating negativity and hate
i suffer from that too, we're all fucked up
I love y'all though
>>
red teach me how to be qt
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>>6388978
>take pretty pills
>workout
>eat a diet of grains, veggies, and nut/soy proteins
>spend decent money on skincare
>check out some makeup tutorials
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>>6388931
that sounds terribly depressing
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>>6388962
>I wouldn't even mind looking like an ugly girl I just wanna stop looking 100% looking like a guy

It's not that great desu
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>>6388991
whats a good workout routine
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>>6388996
run for 30-50 minutes 6 days out of 7
50 squats
50 hip bridges
>>
which of y'all made femgen into a transbians edition ;_;

>>6388996
also aim for a bmi of 20.0 or below
>>
>>6388995
I'd like to find out for myself desu
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>>6388368
My ex came over and she told me she's being harassed by some guy she hung out with out of sympathy for having no friends and now he's threatening to kill himself if she stops talking to him. We argued and she made me cry..I convinced her to let me make her food..we ate on the bed..she sat close...I miss her so much :/
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>>6389018
>22 bmi
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>>6389019
How do you know that you don't already know what it's like?
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how do i get a job mtfg?
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>>6389025
beep you'd make a wonderful lover, you're so caring. I'm sorry for your ex
>>6389030
work harder than. just follow my tips!!
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>>6389033
suck dick
>>
>>6389033
like a blowjob?
>>
>>6388801
Yo he totally has the legs for that. I hope he does it often.
>>
>>6389004
This is a good starting point, but a better workout would be:
50 hip bridges
50 sit ups
50 squats
5 km running
every day
>>
>>6389038
too ugly

>>6389039
no like permanent employment that pays a livable wage
>>
>>6389033
Find cool places and tell them what you have to offer.
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>>6388863
i identify as a pure virgin, ok? >:/

>>6388864
no it's me i just don't have my crazy moonrune tripcode on my phone
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>>6389041
>every day
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>>6389033
I'll tell you as soon as I figure it out ;~;
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>>6389040
Best part is that it looks as if zero fucks were given.
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>>6389041
thanks
I gotta break my plateau
>>
>>6389018
what's your goal if your BMI is below 20
>>
>>6389059
keep going
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>>6388641
I'm just fucking inimitable ;3

aim for 21 or 22 to be healthy and qt desu, it's right in the middle of the "normal weight" bmi range
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>>6389063
when do I become ms. skelington?
>>
>>6389055
Yeah the guy behind him is definitely wearing a blouse, too. Maybe a miniskirt? And the guy behind him, I think. CUTE.
>>
>>6389063
stfu not funny Ana(stasia Steele)
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>>6389059
I'm at 19.6 rn

18.5 is a goal i suppose
>>
>>6389064
femboys like me need to be little and frail.
That's why I'm trying to get to 19.0
>>
>>6389076
but we need some fat to pass :c

i'm trying desperately to gain and I'm at 21.5 desu

but then again i have a bit of muscle mass
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>>6389068
when your bmi is below 1, deary
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>>6389047
Yeah, just keep working at it, and eventually you might even be able to get in twice as many reps of each exercise.
Reaching that point would be hard, but it would feel like a real heroic accomplishment!
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>>6389069
Totally agree! 10/10 BF material right there.
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>>6389088
but i don't like exercising
>>
how do you run if you're afraid of going outside
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>>6389101
IKTF
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>>6389101
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>>6389101
get a treadmill
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>>6389035
I just really have a hard time losing people. :(
>>
HOW DO I GET A BIG BEARY BF
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Does anyone here draw? Post art
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guys,
is it wrong to have a crush on trump?
b/c i have a crush on trump
>>
>>6389124
I thought he killed himself
>>
>>6389097
Then start out by making sure you eat 3 meals a day.
And don't worry, just a banana in the morning is fine.
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>>6389123
>tfw no young trump bf
>>
>>6389124
>who dat
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>>6389129
>>
>>6389106
no money

im serious like i have really bad agoraphobia and anxiety
>>
>>6389134
i don't mind.
i love older people
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>>6389122
I write SHITTY music
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>>6389144
>older people
>older men
>dilfs
>daddies
>>
>tfw threads move slower when you finally get home
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>>6389141
Silly me. I didn't think that anon might be on spiro.
If that's the case then she can have an orange or something instead.
>>
>>6389178
If you like I can start submitting post after post about how my own self loathing far exceeds my loathing of others which is somewhat amazing as I am an introvert.
>>
Is there a skincare guide in the pdfs?
>>
POST MUSICS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7joxOe76vCE
>>
>>6389209
>dadrock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVyGxlgeAjc
>>
>>6389212
dadrock is the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsKJlZi04I0
>>
Ded 2 minutes right when I get here wtq mtfg

>>6389214
then u ruin it wtq

no jk qt
>>
>>6389216
CCR and Steely Dan are the superior brand of dadrock
zep are kiddie stuff
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>>6389209
https://youtu.be/UYSrvstkRuo
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>>6389217
mtqg
>>
>>6389209
https://youtu.be/mVKIva2KddY
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I need a new video game to play.
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>>6389226
i like it...

>>6389212
>>6389216
here's some tasty dadrock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RggdMvtXuEs
>>
>>6389226
lol, good idea.
there should an "mtqg edition" to commemorate this
>>
>>6389232
more dadrock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_9tX4eHztY

>>6389233
so wait is it male to quid or male to qt? either works desu
>>
>>6389236
should just be manlet to quid or something you fucking tiny bitch
>>
>>6389232
bitches, please.
this here's some REAL dad music
https://youtu.be/_nHP6PXKMKI
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>>6389241
heh... :s
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Need android app ideas, what's a useful app for a trannu?
>>
>>6389245
a fucking free voice trainer or one with a reasonable cost

im begging u

i can detail features if u like
>>
>>6389245
an app that locates the closest pizza stores?
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>>6389245
Fashion guides? Makeup tutorials?
>>
>>6389246
thats not a bad idea.
>>
>>6389230

The classic Mega Man games are pretty good if you're into that sort of thing.
>>
>>6389250
Are they on steam?
I don't feel like emulating
>>
>>6389245
online store that sells thigh highs and pleated miniskirts
>>
>>6389246

Those exist?
>>
>>6389245
A map program showing businesses that are trans-friendly and have open bathroom policies.

kinda like a lgbt yelp
>>
>>6389245
lgbt friendly restaurants/areas?
>>
>>6389249
ty

it should have enunciation guides and pitch trackers and maybe resonance if there's some way to do that without really fancy audio detection libraries

and sample voices and good girl voices with large libraries of speech to try and talk along with

i can go on

>>6389255
yeah and they're either just a pitch trainer or this one program that's like a dozen apps that are all 5 bucks for one step in the program each
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>>6389246
>>6389247
>>6389248
>>6389254
>>6389257
this could all be implemented into the one app
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>>6389255
Kinda.
I had better luck not using them though.
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>>6389262
MALE TO FEMALE
THE APP
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>>6389253

I think they are. The first 8 (along with the two arcade games) are also available on the GCN/PS2/XBOX in an Anniversary Collection.
>>
>>6389262
mtfg - the app

also WHERE HAS MY TRIP GONE SHIT IDK IF I SAVED IT WHY DID IT DISAPPEAR?????????
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>>6389262
>>6389265
chrome mobile with a bookmark to an /lgbt/ catalog search for "mtf"
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>>6389246
Those exist though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
It works pretty well ime

>>6389254
Requires something server side.

>>6389257
That would be possible I think although kinda restricted to user provided data

>>6389248
How would one make an app of those? ;~;

>>6389259
Definitely doable!

>>6389247
Actually pretty much ideal
>>
>>6389268
phew I found it
but it's disappearing after every post wtf
>>
>>6389267
I don't own any consoles.
>>
>>6389282

>>6389282

>>6389282
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>>6389275
that seems higher functionality than the other pitch trainers i've seen, cool

but it still isn't very optimal if it only focuses on pitch
>>
>>6389281
all the consoles i have are old as dirt
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>>6389275
You could also make a clicker clone but with a MtF and hormones, could have a sprite that slowly transitions as your HrT per second goes up.
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