/femgen/ - Link edition

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>>6374357
An obvious fem&m addict

>>6374357
>I will never look like link

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>>6374357

Anyone else get a HUGE shift in sexuality from hormones? I used to kinda like girls but i was kinda curious about guys and i was confused. Now i mostly like masculine guys, weird little things like nice muscles or forearms, arm/body hair, a nice beard, button down shirts and stuff. Guys like that i just want to cuddle and stuff but they're always straight

Hormones turned me from confused straight to homo exclusively attracted to masculine men

>>6374526
That's like me except I'm a feminine gay guy that's not on moans.

>>6374526

you accepted your place as a sissy bitch, good girl

>>6374526
I know I liked guys when I was young. I repressed it out of fear which put me into the "I like girls and I am gay curious" category. As soon as I started mones I couldn't repress anymore. I want the D.

Maybe it's the same with you?

>>6374408
delete this

>>6374591
??

>>6374561
Hardly, during sex i'd totally be ok with being submissive but more importantly desu i just want a guy like that to hold me and cuddle.

Maybe im getting a little lonely...

I want Red. Bring his bp to me

>>6374640
>his

>>6374670
He's a qt gay boi, don't bully.

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>>6374640
Uhhh...hi!

>>6374570
>Omg, that guy is really hot. Why am i getting so nervous around him? Why am I laughing at every little stupid joke he cracks? God, I'm blushing. Damn it, no, I'm straight. I like girls. I'm not a fucking faggot!

The struggle is real. I do wonder though if it would be different if girls weren't expecting me to be the man.

>>6374613
Boy cuddles are best smell but hrt means you dont really smell like a normal boy so i kinda forgot what boys smell like i just know i liked it

>>6374752
I really miss the smell of my testis when jerking of

>>6374778
What? Thats weird...

I just meant like non sexual natural smell, i think i used to have it too but i know there are some guys i would just lay in bed and cuddle all day and soak up the mysterious boy cuddle smell

>>6374408
why ganon tho?

literal trannies not understanding the clear majority doesn't want them ITT, S M H

also there's a guy in the skype group who cosplays as link all the time, it's p cute

>>6375195
>guy in the skype group who cosplays as link
If you're here, Skype group guy, post pics of your cosplays!

>>6375195
>relying on strawpolls

>>6374748

UHHHHHH i cant stop blushing hard when im around handsome guys. Its so embarrassing now.

fucking whoremoans.....

;_;

>>6375195
are heteros allowed in the skype group or will they be bullied away

can i join skype? is there anyone here who would add me to group?

>>6374526
That's already how I am, except I'm not even on hormones, so basically >>6374550.

>they're always straight
No. No, they are not. You need to look harder, anon.

>>6375251
he's pretty rarely around i think he said he has terrible internet or something

>>6377092
yeah we don't really care. there are three transbians in the group chat lol, as long as you aren't monopolizing the GAY FEM DISCUSSION you're fine.

>>6377098
yea post your skype if you want

>>6374715
Hi Red, looking good.
You mentioned you wanted to get your bmi to 19, what is your current bmi?

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Is it possible for a guy to have a hairstyle like this (long hair with bangs) and it not look like shit? Any examples? I can only find images of women with this style.

>>6379182
you'll look like a tranny

go shoulder length imo, and get volume behind it to go for a more tousled look

>>6379186
I've been thinking of growing it really long, right now it is about the length in that image, but I don't have bangs

>>6379197
those bangs do not flatter male heads. get something angular or curved or wavy, imo

What are some good places to find good femboy hairstyles? I'm terrible with hair stuff.

What is femgen's living arrangement?

I'm assuming it's difficult to really be fem if you live with misandric parents.
College dorms? Shared housing?
How do you navigate being a prancing lala fruit and interacting with roommates?

Anyone living with their partner/spouse?

>>6379561
Living with chill parents while in college. I'm not a "prancing lala fruit" though.

>>6379580
this

>>6379580
>>6379591
How do you hide your boyboobs from your parents?

>>6379627
im not on hormones """""yet"""""

>>6379561
i've lived away from home since 14

>>6379561
My parents are fine with LGBT. I lived with them for longer than I care to admit, but I live with another femboy and a transgirl now.

>>6379627
I always have either a sweatshirt on or, when it's hot like it's been getting, I just a flannel shirt. It's kinda easy right now though 'cause I've only been on mones 3 months, and my boobs are still pretty tiny. I'll probably need a sports bra in a couple months though. I'm not really worried about them finding out though. It's a long, awkward discussion I don't wanna have with them, but I'm not worried about getting disowned or anything.

I'm >>6379580 by the way

>>6379701
>I live with another femboy and a transgirl now
Wow that sounds like fun, do you all do lewd and fun stuff together?

I wish I had similar friends IRL

>>6379708
Do your parents know at all? It would be a huge surprise to drop on them if you're long into it.

>>6379561
I couldn't CD or shave my legs or anything when I lived with my parents. It got a lot simpler to hide when I moved out to uni and lived with roommates even though I did get caught dolled up once. I live with my bf now so it's not a problem anymore :)

>>6379701
>I live with another femboy and a transgirl now.
>tfw used to have that kind of arrangement
>tfw you miss them but life kinda split the three of you geograhically

>>6379755
>Do your parents know at all?
Not about the hormones. I'm not sure what my dad knows, but my mom knows I shave my body hair and use lotion, also that I cleanse+moisturize my face. She also knows that I've been stressed about something for the past year. Oh. They do both know that I've been ordering meds online 'cause they saw the box I got from IHP. At this point, I doubt my mom would be too terribly surprised. Dunno 'bout my dad though.

>>6379701
how'd you manage to swing that? i've always wanted to live in a femtopia

>>6379755
>do you all do lewd and fun stuff together?
I do lewd stuff with the femboyfriend. Sometimes the trans friend will spitroast him with me, but she's not really my type personally. I like transgirls though.

>>6379769
Sucks bro :(

>>6379807
>Met on irc when he and I were both still trans
>Slowly started to question whether or not I wanted to continue transition
>He helped me feel comfortable in identifying as a guy again
>Eventually he does the same
>We're gay with each other now

>>6379855
That's cute as fuck

>>6379855
>tfw friends with a trans girl who thinks the sex is cute because you're basically twinks with tits in bed

>>6379855
and somehow you moved in
neato

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>>6379855
Did you keep the pill preservatives?

You know, just as a way of ensuring you'll stay like link and not ganon

>>6379866
Truth

>>6379926
Yeah I'm still on spiro and low dose E but I cut my hair and started dressing more andro.

>tfw i'll never be as cute as link either way ;_;

Daily reminder testosterone is poison https://a.pomf.cat/gntgvd.webm

>>6380340
daily reminder no one loves you

>>6380433
You don't know me, that's not true!

>>6379627
slouching, large shirts, and sweatshirts
i've always been kind of a slob though so it's not out of character.
[spoiler]although i'm pretty sure my mother accidentally found one of my drying sportsbras and just didn't say anything[/spoiler]
they probably wouldn't kick me out anyway though

>>6380479
>slouching, large shirts, and sweatshirts
Like a pro. I bet you also try to walk manly.

so how long until you girls realize you are trannies

>>6380612
>impling nb isn't trans

>>6380615
new balance is shoes you goofball

>>6380583
i manage well. i was never really a fruity faggot. but i've also read a lot on body language since i was younger so i'm kind of hyper aware of it

when is it too late to start hrt?

>>6380758
25

>>6380763
>started at 24.8
phew!

>>6380758
depends on your goals and your genetics
if you want to look more feminine, never
if you want to look like a real girl, before puberty

>>6380934
DSL. Jealous tbqh :/

Fem4fem is suffering. I never know if I want to be a guy or fuck him.

>>6380934
damn those some tiny fucking nipples

hi again, anyone here who could add me to group if i drop my skype?

>>6380636
I'm glad someone said said this

>>6379235
Bump. Most guys' long hair styles look pretty masc (obviously).

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r8 me

all my clothes are over sized because I lost a bunch of weight and haven't bought more yet

>>6381177
baggy mcgee/10

>>6381177
feet/10

Man I was expecting lower sex drive and stuff, but I didn't expect HRT to make me so much more disgusted by porn. What do you guys get off to now?

>>6381241
Reading has always worked for me.

>>6381241
i've always found imagination better than porn, even before HRT.

other things include the sex scenes in films (particularly euro ones) which tend to portray emotional intimacy better than any porn, and also look up beautiful agony. it's basically face porn.

>>6381264
That actually worked better for me before HRT, though maybe the ones I've been reading have just been shit.

>>6381265
Beautiful agony is good, yeah. I guess I still like some porn, just the vast majority of it is kinda gross when before it was bad but still okay.

>>6381177
Manchild living at home/5

It's like you just want to be a kid forever.

>>6381241
Written stuff. Especially more character centric written porn. Steven Universe has a lot of great shit on ao3 if you're into lesbians.

Find a Fandom you like and read up.

>>6381277
thats not my room

>>6381293
That only raises more questions

>>6381287
>ao3
Hadn't heard of it before, but it looks promising. Thanks, anon. And yeah lesbians are good. I like how the focus of their sex scenes in writing is generally more emotional and intimately based.

>>6381295
its my brothers room and it has a huge mirror so I went in there

>>6381277
Don't be an ass

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>>6381303
Let me rec you something then. Look up pictures of the characters to get an idea of what to imagine, but also let your imagination run wild. Here's a complimentary pic of the sub woman in the second chapter. It's good shit.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/6775990/chapters/15486619

>>6381241
I mostly fap to the same porn stuff I fapped to before (overly specific captioned pics from a few sources I've acquired over the years)

I am more disgusted by most regular porn though, I completely stopped watching 3D scenes.

Anyone else /cuddle sheets to sleep every night/

I didnt realise i did it until i woke up like that at a friends place and realised how pathetic i must look, as far as i can tell i've been doing it for atleast a year.

>>6381345
only when it's cold out
or when I'm bummed

>>6381345
It's cute, don't worry

>>6381320
Can't help it. I calls it likes I sees it.

>>6381345
s/sheets/pillow
Also >>6381369

>>6381203
>>6381240
>>6381277
I don't know if these are good or bad

>>6381241
The kind of porn that disgusts me has always disgusted me. Mostly straight porn and gay porn that resembles it.

The only thing that has really changed is that I'm more averse to 3D now. I mostly fap to irl gay, yaoi, traps and fur shit.

I can't watch commercial trans porn anymore. The models are gross and I prefer like, early hrt transgirls that still look androgynous.

>>6381177
cute
also give me your hair pls

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>>6381336
Boys are better. It's more relatable when they've got a dick.

>>6381391
it means you have potential but you aren't dressing or presenting in a way that makes you look your best.

>>6381345
I have my pillow laying the long way and cuddle up to it like it's someone's chest.

>>6381421
Imagine whatever you want. I like lesbians, because they are so fucking cute. The people who write them can get way deeper into the characters and their reasoning/emotions. Read the second chapter of the fic I posted and you'll get what I mean. You can imagine them with dicks if you want. It isn't hard to do. The author, she gets so deep into why the characters are doing what they're doing, and why they act/react. It gets insanely hot and they don't even have sex. It's about the emotional aspect.

>>6381422
good thing im going for androgynous
but yeah I need to work on my appearance

>>6381448
The psychological part is the best.

>>6381421
Same phampai. I can only relate to traps or futa. Vaginas are weird looking and don't really do it for me.

>>6381460
regardless of how you're trying to present gender wise, lose the baggy shirt. it doesn't suit you.
i'm not saying you have to go for skinny fit and avoid anything with a little loose fabric, but it really doesn't work.

>>6381336
Usually those kinds of settings aren't my thing, but that was really good. Thanks anon.

>>6381486
It's basically a tiny penis, two sacks with no balls, and a hole full of muscles. Pretty simple. It's also interesting to get inside another person's mind with a different perspective. You want to be real fem? Get inside a woman's mind. It has nothing to do with acting like a woman, but everything to do with understanding how you can relate to them more than you realized. I ain't talking trans shit here.

But eh, if you like dick you like dick.

>>6381541
Yeah I don't relate to any of this writing

It's entirely too vanilla to be sexually exciting so it just becomes boring and cringey.

>>6381336
Got any more recs, preferably not SU

>>6381595
Whaaaaaaat? You see this as vanilla? What the hell are you jerking it to?

I see the pounding holes and fucking like a train engine as gross and unreal. Boring and sick. Pounding away ignores so much of what is fun about sex. The slow build up makes the climax that much more intense.

>>6381619
Naw man. I like fucking (and getting fucked by) men and women, but I only jerk it to lesbians, which SU has a load of. Only really have les recs.

>>6381524
Glad you liked it. It has gotten me into the idea of bdsm. If it's anything like that in reality, Imma need to get in on it.

>>6381620
The only thing I really get off to is content with masochistic emasculation, usually done in very peculiar and pedantic manner.
I don't really like the visuals of hardcore sex, but it can be hot with the right context.

>>6381541
The biggest difference for me is that I like penetration and there's a very low probability of a clit ever being big enough to penetrate an ass (maybe some FtMs can?). If women could do that I would probably be bi. But even as a vers guy its not that fun to fuck pussy. I've tried. Like, it feels alright sure, but just the anxiety surrounding the possibility of pregnancy is a huge turnoff on its own.

>>6381541
I'm a guy and I've always been adamant that no matter what I do with my looks, I'll always be a guy. Why would I want to start thinking like a woman?

>>6381498
I know, need to go shopping soon I literally dont own anything not baggy I used to be 180lbs

>>6381625
I'm fine with les, but in have trouble jerking to SU

>>6381658
Because we're not that different at the end of the day. There will always be more similarities than differences, considering that we're all people. I don't relate to every man I meet, and I relate to some of the women I meet. It's never been black and white.

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>>6381716
Why? When you read shit, expecially a human AU, you can imagine it however you want.

>>6381653
Condoms and hormonal contraception. Best sex I've had was with a woman who had a copper IUD and a collection of strap ons. She knew what she was doing. A complete switch. She was a very attentive dom, and an incredibly reactive sub. If I didn't have to move for my master's degree I'd never stop fucking her.

>>6381773
My girlfriend and I own a strapon. We're both switches. Its lovely.

>>6381778
go try to troll mtfg instead. We're not failed sons, we're sons that like to look pretty.

>>6381801
Yeah we do. Point being?

>>6381778

Don't worry namefag, my father imparted his ugliness to me like a good man and there is no way I could ever look beautiful like these faggots.

NO WAY I COULD EVER WAKE UP AND SPEND 30 MINUTES PUTTING ON MAKEUP TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

Instead I get to work for day after day after day on year after year after year in the gym to even look remotely "masculine." And even then, I will still get less than 1% of the fucking pussy these "beautiful men" can pull just by waking up and posting a fucking picture of themselves on instagram.

No, namefag. I was cursed, soundly cursed by whatever god or alien or nihilist abyss set this fucking dark Earth on its goddamned spinning axis, to NEVER be "beautiful." So fucking nothing to worry about being ashamed of, dad.

AND FATHER'S DAY IS NEXT SUNDAY, I SHOULD THANK HIM FOR THE GENES SINCE I WAS BALD AT 25.

One day, I swear on every drop of blood that is in me, I will mangle one of these beautiful people with my bare hands and tear their fucking face off with my goddamned teeth.

>>6381752
Idk, I guess, as much as I love it, I still see it as a children's cartoon and feel weird getting of to that. Maybe I'm just being to stuck up

>>6381773
To each their own. I dated a woman for about a year and got her to try some assplay on me, but she wasn't very good at it and didn't seem to have much desire to get better. I'm not sure women can really top well tbqh. That and most strapons are nothing like real dicks in texture or density.

>>6382000
There are dildos that are very life like, and you can't generalize women based off of only one. There are women who are great at butt stuff.

>>6382099
>There are dildos that are very life like
I'll take your word on it

>you can't generalize women based off of only one
True. That was a little unfair.

Still, its a slippery slope. First its a dildo in the butt, then what? I don't want to be bi QQ

Man, I don't know how some of you manage to only eat, like, 800 calories or whatever in a day. It's hard enough staying at/below 1300.

>>6382187
If you don't like guys you don't like guys. You trying not to be bi doesn't work because if you think both sexes are attractive you ARE bi.

>>6382208
It takes real effort. It may help that I eat a can of soup, go to work, have no lunch, then come home to another can. The second meal is enough to get me to bed.

>>6382208
It only requires a combination of lying and starvation, anon.

>>6382235
I try to do this, but then my bf brings home pizza

>>6382236
haha lying to urself xD and make sure ur excersiving the right areas

>>6382256
bought my boo bigger tits and abig um ass
>>6382250
wish i had a bf to do this

>>6382256
Not lying to yourself. Lying to others. If someone tells you they've eaten only 800 calories a day for the last 90 days and they're still alive, they're either a midget, a child, or lying. People like that act like they're full and couldn't possibly eat another bite of their single fig newton bar ration while people are around, then sneak into the kitchen and carefully carry something off to their bedroom while nobody is watching.

>>6382208
Fucking up your thyroid and metabolism isn't worth it, anon. In the long run, it will make your skin look like shit and your hair fall out.

>>6381778
My dad molested me in the shower when I was 7, so I don't really give a shit.

>>6382317
I have no intention of eating that little, but that's mostly 'cause I like food too much. It's just insane that people can do that when just eating 500 below what I need is hard enough.

>>6382328
Yeah, I just ended up miserable and barely able to walk up stairs after a while.

>>6382334
Damn dude. That sounds awful, sorry

>>6382343
Thanks, but it was really my own fault for being an idiot about it.

>>6379177
20.0

>>6381679
Good child, lose weight until the number is as low as your self esteem

Someone post butt workout image.

>>6382208
Perscription medication

How should I go about shaving legs, pubic harmir, and armpits? Is there a guide like the ones in the OP pasta?

>>6382208
That's literally starvation levels. I'm not quite that bad, but I do struggle to eat more than 1500 in a day. I'm not necessarily trying to be skinny, I just can't stuff myself efficiently. I have friends who can demolish a whole pizza themselves where I'm feeling pretty full after about the third slice.

I was legitimately anorexic when I was a teenager, but I haven't been in a long time and I'm not sure if I'm just a light eater or I fucked up my stomach when I was younger :/

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>>6374357
Am I a fem guy?
I am 5'5 and 29

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>>6382757
I use one of these for most everyday shaving. They're cheap, blades are cheap and they cut closer than most disposables. It takes a bit to get used to shaving with one, but I find them pretty efficient.

For pubic hair I find it hard to keep things totally smooth. My skin down there is sensitive and I get cuts no matter how much shaving cream or what kind of razor I use. I find it more effective to grow and wax it, or just trim it as close as possible with my electric razor.

>>6382785
Yeah but 1300 is only starvation levels if you're assuming a 2000 calorie per day metabolism. At my height and weight, I need 1800 to maintain since I'm on hormones. 500 below is about as far below as you generally wanna go, I think.

>I have friends who can demolish a whole pizza themselves where I'm feeling pretty full after about the third slice.
Their stomachs are probably just more used to it. Generally if you eat 'til being really full every time you eat, your stomach will get used to being able to accommodate more and more food over time. I used to be able to eat a lot more in one sitting than I can now.

>>6382819
Sorry, my fault for not being clear. I was referring to the 800 rather than the 1300. You're right, it would be unlikely that a small guy would need a full 2000+ calories per day. I'm 5'6" and about 125lbs and I'm maintaining on probably about the same.

>>6382867
Damn I'm jealous. I wish I was 5'6" with a smaller frame. Being 6' is no fun when you want to be fem.

>>6382874
It has its downsides. Proportionally my shoulders appear a bit wider than they would if I were a bit taller. There are advantages to both, but I guess I can't complain too much.

hey y'all
I've been on hrt for 17 months now but just switched to bica because I heard of it's benefits. will i still be able to have it remove body hair and reduce muscle mass or is it too late in my hormone treatment?

Went on HRT for about 4 months a few years back, most of the changes reversed themselves but now I got gyno. Will SERMS reverse this or do I gotta deal w/ my nips showing for the rest of my life?

>>6384209
Why did you give up their gains? They're useful for fem mode.

>>6384209
why did you go on HRT in the first place?

>>6382450
well, that's nice
keep it up

how tall are you tho?

>>6384209
get back on hrt you faggot

>>6384209
Visible nips are cute if you dress boyish though.
My french soft butch lesbian aunt hasn't worn a bra since her late 20s.

>>6384401
6'2

>>6382795
I am afraid you are not cut out. Your head is at the bottom and your legs at the top, you are all upside down, that is simply not attractive, sorry.

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>>6379182
Takashi Mizutani and Keiji Haino both pull off hairstyles like that. I'm not sure how you'd do it without being an aging Japanese experimental musician, though.

>>6379182
Those are easy wigs to find, buy one online or try one out in person and see if it looks good on you.

>>6379627
Easy, you don't get boobjobs because this thread is for femboys and not transexuals.

>>6382795
You look really good for 29, anon. What's your secret ?

>>6384923
>BMI of 20
>6'2"
Are we the same person ?

I'm jealous of your feminine facial structure, though.

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How do I get kawaii femgen?

>>6385124
You already are

>>6385124
grow your hair longer

>>6385157
How long? My hair just gets shaggy after a point

>>6385165
buy a straightener then

Reminder that you're all better than mtfs because you aren't trying to force people into adoptiong your worldview

>>6385078
heh, maybe. Are you a NEET rn and not sure what to do with your life?
Thank you thank you. I just hope losing weight doesn't change how my face looks too much or make it too angular

>>6385177
Ayy this. I have naturally curly hair that looks like shit so I keep it quite short. There are a lot of faggy styles that are shorter but fem.

>>6385124
> How do I get kawaii femgen?


let me suck you off

>>6385195
>Are you a NEET rn and not sure what to do with your life?
Holy shit, we are the same person. I don't understand people worrying about their face being too angular. I've always hated how soft and undefined mine is.

>>6385261
I'll be Red, you be Blue. We can be twins :3
I just want softer facial features

>>6385269
I can deal with that. How will we recognize each other ?

>>6385295
I got tattoos!

>Link edition
>nobody talking about the new femboy Link game
For shame.

>>6385124


Are u into guys or girls?

>>6385339
Video games are cancer

>>6385301
Deal.

>>6385348
Guys ofc. Why?

>tfw stupid facial hair always looks and feel stubbly immediately after shaving

>>6385401
Have you tried using cleanser instead of shaving cream

>>6385421
What's that ?

>>6385428
Cleanser... do you have a skincare routine?

Basically it's what goes before exfoliant and moisturizer when you wash your face.

>>6385434
>do you have a skincare routine?
I don't have enough money… I already have good skin, though, I just don't like the stubble.

So I'm supposed to use cleanser instead of shaving soap ? What does it do to help ?

>>6385464
I'm not sure what it does but in general I get les irritation and a better shave with skincare products than shaving soap.

>>6385478
I don't have a problem with irritation. I'm already using a safety razor, which is supposed to have a closer shave, but I still get stubble.

>>6385486
:(
Plucking?

>>6385492
I don't want to tear my face off just yet…

I'll explore other options first.

>>6385072
I too would like to know
>>6382795

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>>6385339
He's obviously on femboy pill regimens. People mistook him for Zelda And the creator had to come in and say he's still a boy

>>6384923
Do >>6374715
Do you live in plano/richardson tx?

>>6385563
Is Nintendo specifically making games for femboys at this point ?

>>6385563
you can see the boob outlines

>>6385563


yeah but they got a negative backlash from the first trailer so they gave him a protruding nose and other things so he'll look less andro....

>>6385633
Link was basically designed to appeal to girls and has had a lot of gay appeal since OOT.

>>6385644
Sauce? It'd be sad if the fans bullied Nintendo into making him uggo

lol i keep dropping in to ask, but is there anyone currently here who could add me to the skype group if i drop my ID rn?

i don't wanna just drop it and leave it sitting, i'd rather be able to delete it from thread.

>>6385661
Well I don't know any girls who are into femboys, but is the gay appeal actually intentional ? Because Link has always been like an irresistible magnet for my sexual attractions.

>>6385684

Old trailer

http://im.ziffdavisinternational.com/t/ign_latam/news/z/zelda-wii-/zelda-wii-u-director-hints-at-western-influence_1unb.1920.jpg


New official art

http://www.chipchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/screenshot_606.png


They made link's nose more protruding, eyebrows more hairy and mouth wider just because male fans were upset.

>>6385691
I don't think it's intentional, but I know Miyazaki at least didn't complain about it and kept going for the cute bishie look, so I guess he saw it as a success.

>>6385707
Well I have a complaint for Miyazaki, because Link is really getting too cute for me to handle at this point. I want it to stop.

>>6385691
I'm into femboys, but I'm trans

>>6385718
For real.

>>6385699
That's lame as fuck. First one is such a qt. Not that the second one isn't, but damn.

>>6385718
>Miyazaki
Sorry I'm a fucking moron
Miyamoto

Also new link is more inspo than hotness

I still don't quite understand the definition of femboy. Some people say that it just means a girly boy, but some of the people ITT seem exactly like trannies to me. Where do you draw the line, and what it the minimum amount of femininity required for someone to be considered a femboy rather than just a twink ?

>>6385745
>trans
"But anon, I'm a girl"

>femboy
"But anon, I'm a boy"

>>6385751
I'm more interested in the last part of the question, really. Are femboys literally just transexuals who aren't mentally transexual ?

>>6385755
Femboys are a lot of things.
Many femboys are non binary transsexual (although it's not a thing people like to acknowledge even exists here), many femboys are just twinks who might take hormones to stay pretty, and some are even trannies who find being a femboy more fun.

>>6385755
my understanding is that a fair few people who identify as "femboys" actually are transsexual, in that their wish to present in a more feminine manner is driven by dysphoria, but that they don't wish to socially transition.
but that's just some.

>>6385745
I'm a guy, i was born a guy, I think of myself as a guy and I've still got my dick. By every one of those criteria I'm not trans.

It doesn't matter what else I do. So long as those stay in place, I'm not trans by any stretch.

>>6385797
But do you take HRT ?

>>6385564
I live in the DFW area...
skype me derp223

>>6385790
this is me, mostly because I could never pass
still on mones and such

>>6385800
Yea and?

>>6385823
That's all I needed to know

>>6385811
yeah, i understand how a lot of femboys contest this though and don't want to be seen as "failed trannies".

what's funny is i don't necessarily see how that conclusion needs to be reached. i think a lot of femboys would physically transition really well, i'm perfectly allowing for personal choice and what a person feels comfortable doing, which to me is the entire point of femboys being a thing.

>>6385824
Why?

>>6385832
perfectly [fine] allowing for

>>6385834
Because it seems that the definition of femboy is one who is physically transexual but mentally cis

>>6385846
I wouldn't be "physically transexual" unless I got Cowtits or srs. I'm Cis.

>>6385846
>physically transexual
As far as I know trans aren't fine with their genitalia
I am fine with my penis
¿¿

>>6385863
What HRT's do you take to avoid breast growth ?

>>6385874
raloxifene instead of estrogen, as it's an antagonist rather than an agonist in breast tissue.

bicalutamide for an anti-androgen, as it doesn't have progestogenic action like spiro and cypro do (breast development relies both on estrogen and progestogens)

>>6385874
I take estrogen. I have gotten minor growth but I'm skinny and its under control.

I might have cycled SERM if I knew about it back then but it isn't worth the trouble.

>went bald young
>voice too deep
>absolutely don't want to be masculine in any way
>28 years old and stuck like this forever

Welp, time to kill myself.

>>6385884
what trouble? if your growth is minor then the SERM could help reduce it. raloxifene isn't that expensive

>>6385890
dat's some tidy dysphoria you have there. battle through it soldier.

>>6385896

I've been battling through it, anon. I was actually really girly in my teens, and had long hair, full lashes, and soft features. My voice wasn't as gravelly or deep yet. Then I hit my 20s, my giant-ass barrel chest came in practically overnight, I grew a beard, suddenly had fucking crows feet by my eyes, and my hair started falling out in what was almost clumps. Basically, I transformed from my mom into my dad over the course of a year. I completely hate the way I look and sound, but will still spend months at a time trying to trick myself into thinking I'm somehow happy with my body, telling myself shit like, "Well, your body decided to be really masculine, so you should just be happy with it and own it."

Except every time I see myself in the mirror, I just feel like throwing up.

I honestly don't know if I can do this anymore, but I'll stop shitting up the thread regardless. Maybe I'll get really stoned and play a video game where I can be a girl. That sometimes helps.

>>6385896
Yeah, but they cost more. I have no idea about what they'll do to my baby fat nice skin and the other good parts about e too. I'll let other people try it.

Tbh I don't really care all that much about having tits now. So long as they're small enough to hide. I was horrified about growing tits at first and took spiro only till getting sick but now I don't really care.

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>>6385962
It's never too late to start HRT if you don't mind not passing but want to be more feminine

>>6385962
Playing videos games where you can play young androgynous characters, helps me with my ageing as well.
Hopefully with VR it'll allow even more escapism because I really don't know how I am going to deal with being old.

On a side note I've got some Link cosplay that I did the other day, if anyone wants to see. I don't usually share but with the thread title it seems fitting.

still no members of the femgen group chat about?

>All the new shirtless Link footage this morning.
>You can go through the entire game wearing just underwear.

HNNNNG

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>tfw no femboy bf

>looking through the photo montage of the Pulse shooting victims
thank goodness none of them were femboys, few things fuck me up like the loss of qtness in its prime, I still feel like shit over frankwolf's death

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>>6385962
time to get on neuters and titty skittles

>>6386357
>spanish ppl
>femboys

top kek, them along with middle easterners and blacks will never be femboys

>>6386374
I've known some pretty amazing femboys of each of these groups.

>>6386359
>>6386037
they don't let you go on HRT just because you want to look less manly

>>6386433
well that is why you get it from somewhere else

>>6386433
you could always use in house pharmacy. from the sound of it though you are legit dysphoric

>>6386433
self med.

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Homosexuals just shouldn't be allowed food.

The presence of one near me makes me physically sick, gay """men""" eat the ass and swallow the intestinal bacterial load of their multiple partners of which they promiscuously fuck every other week.

When you have a multitude of bacteria from multiple partners that give rise to a generous flora of bacteria that will cause stank. As in if you get bacteria that process sulfur from the gut and they take in residence in your upper intestinal tract, you will smell like sulfur AKA shit.

I have encountered multiple homosexual """men""" in the past few years and you can actually smell their faggot shit breath which has defaulted to their natural faggot breath smell and it is absolutely fucking nauseating.

>>6386374
>blacks can't be femboys
have you seen Circe senpai

>>6386433
They kinda do though. Saying I'm worried about masculinizing as I'm getting older qualified me for dysphoria which is how I got a referral to an endo.

>>6386451
>>6386440
>>6386443 (That anon wasn't me, by the way)

I would seriously accidentally kill myself. There's absolutely no way I'd self-med correctly.

>>6386471
there are ways to err on the side of caution

>>6386471

just take minimum dose for a while, go get a blood test to see your hormone levels (and see that everything else is fine) and adjust accordingly, repeat

>>6386456
sorry, i dont do any of that, you must be mistaken

>>6386433
Informed consent bro. Tbf I started the process as trans, but I switched to another clinic recently after moving and they haven't given me any shit over them. I just told them I hate my masculine features and I would feel more comfortable / authentic in a more feminine body. They didn't prod me with annoying questions about how I identify or give me some kind of trutrans test.

>>6386470

That's honestly amazing to hear, and I really wish that worked here. I'm in Utah, and all the doctors I've met here are season-pass fans of the "let's just try and make you happy with exactly who and what you are" approach.

>>6386473
>>6386481

It's so fucking scary to me, though. I think I'd have to have a doctor do it. The thought of doing it wrong and somehow making myself even worse than I am now is terrifying.

>>6385778
>Many femboys are non binary transsexual
I suppose that could be a thing. I met some nonbinaries at a local lgbt meet that were pretty chill. They all seemed significantly less crazy than the binary trannies and weren't as obsessed with pronouns and passing. Most of them seemed like they just wanted to opt out and be seen as androgynous. I can kind of relate.

>many femboys are just twinks who might take hormones to stay pretty
I think that there generally has to be some level of 'dysphoria' going on in order to decide to take hormones. Which isn't to say you think you are or want to be a different gender, but hating your male features is like, textbook dysphoria. The definition isn't as strict as most think. It just means discomfort with your own primary and/or secondary sexual characteristics.

>some are even trannies who find being a femboy more fun
Pretty much me. I started transition and found out that I don't really relate to cis female culture very well. I'm not good at making friends with normal women. I felt more comfortable around other effeminate men. I also realized that I would never pass in the way I wanted to so being a femboy was a better alternative. Basically I like myself better as a guy and feel very dysphoric while trying and failing to be a woman.

since people brought up the "nonbinary" term here

i'll say this
i'm fine with "nonbinary" identities that exist somewhere between established male-female gender differentiation and sexual dimorphism.

but when people start taking other things that have nothing to do with gender and affixing -gender to them, that shit gotta stop.

neurogenders gotta stop.

nebulous genderfuck gotta stop.

>>6386558
I could say pretty much me too, in a different way; after a few years of relatively succesful transition, I realized I just liked to do whatever gender-wise, so long as I looked more fem than masc.

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>see new grindr message
>"I'm straight but fuck u turn me on"
>mfw

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>>6385563
>all the triggered whores

anyone here from the femgen skype group yet?

>>6386633

https://join.skype.com/DlOBpiomn1Cv

>>6386646
"You have been removed from this conversation and will not be able to join."

Welp, guess I give up then lol.

>>6386677
I love how the meme master Nazis, who spend their whole lives trying to use meme magic, ban anyone that doesn't think like them and only allows echo chambers. Like, if you make it clear you don't like the people who disagree and won't let them get to know you and learn to trust you, then how are you going to trick them with the double dank memes?

>>6386688
Führer dubs checked.
They don't even know who I am. They might have seen my posts asking if there was anyone around to pick up my ID if I dropped it here, but had no way to associate that with the other on topic posts I've made in this thread.

>>6386702
What's that dank mean, memesir? I didn't understand a word of those doubles, or what they had to do with my hashtag.

>>6386677
My bad. I joined a couple months ago when the link was posted publicly and lurked for a bit, but I haven't been on in weeks. It was still in my skype history so I figured it was worth a shot.

>>6386718
haha, thanks anyway. it had a feel of technical difficulties to it.

>>6386725
why don't we just start an unofficial one?

I'll host if I get some yes's

>>6386748
nahh i don't want to fracture it. the general just seems incredibly slow and i don't know when members of the group chat actually drop in here

Where's Circe?

>>6386037
did they really fix his hairline that hardcore?

>>6386610
Bishounen with boobs was better than girl anyhow

>>6386770
yeah, in the spots where hair hasn't stopped growing completely (the scalp isnt shiny smooth) blocking testosterone allows it to start growing again

>>6386796
I need to start LF hair loss treatments. I'm 25 but muh hair is thinning despite all of my other ageless features.

People -always- looked shocked when I tell them how old I am but my hairline says im 30.

>>6386433
It still amazes me the number of people who think gatekeepers still matter

>>6386854
I don't think amazes is the word you were looking for.

>>6386854
>It still amazes me the number of people who think <oppression> still matters

>>6386872
muh oppression

>>6386878
>"I know! I'll make fun of this person for wanting me to cut out my being a worthless cunt! That'll trick him!"

>>6386872
>>6386864
What? It's exactly what I meant. People think you need to convince someone you're a perfect trutrannie when you can just order anything you want online. It's like people don't take 5 minutes to learn

>>6386888
shut the fuck up anonymoose, you don't deserve those numbers

>>6386893
>"Who cares if trannies need reliable medicine from sources that can be regulated and trusted, when they can just order things illegally on the internet from people who cut their drugs and lie about their ingredients?"

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>>6386641

>You will never hold Link close and warm him up after he comes home from shirtless mountain climbing.

>>6386909
there are perfectly legitimate online medicine stores, the only shady thing is obtaining the product from them without a prescription

>>6386909
t. Boomer

>>6386893
Things that are amazing are remarkable and hard to understand, anon. This isn't either of those things.

"Sir are you sure this is the right prescription?"

y-yes

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>>6386920

>>6386508
do it anyway
initial fear that leads to you becoming who you want?
it's better than seeing doc after doc who won't help you because they don't believe in what you want

>>6386968
Ah but in reality, anon, it's both

>>6386610

Why are they upset? Link doesnt even look that far off from them anyway.

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>>6386610

Just tell them not to assume that Link self-identifies as male. You don't need breasts or a vagina to be a woman, right?

>>6386796
>tfw look at an old picture and realize your hairline isn't shit from balding, it was always shit

>Bicalutamide at ~$50/month

What the fuck, are you guys loaded or some shit? An equivalent amount of spironolactone is like, half the cost

>>6387516

Just get the fucking preteen boobs.

>>6387516
how much spiro for half the cost? 100mg or 200mg?
and spiro has progestogenic action which promotes breast growth, hence dissuading its use.

the short of it is that if you're going to change one thing from MtF HRT, it should be the AA. take an AA that doesn't promote progestogenic action, even if you take estrogen, and the estrogen can be effective in feminizing you without causing as much breast growth as it would with spiro.

if you chose to take spiro and a SERM, you would probably be feminizing less and for the same price as bica and estrogen.

>all these jokes about loose buttholes
>femboys and gayboys worrying about not being satisfied
>can take my 7 inch girth bad dragon toy
>one finger is still enough to drive me wild

it's a shame what bad rumors and speculation can do. my favorite toy is my smallest one. It's got a long handle that lets me do whatever I want with it and my big boys rarely leave the shoebox at the bottom of my closet unless I'm sucking them.

>>6387516
>25mg/day
>not spending an extra few $10s/month to avoid spiro poisoning

>>6387575

Assuming a spiro dose of 200mg/day, 60 of the 100mg pills is $22 on ADC. I was on spiro+E initially but pussied out because of tiddies and permanent sterility.

I wanted to switch AAs to bica, but I didn't know it'd be that costly. Shit tho, if it really works without sterility or boobs I'll try it out

>>6387659
Is 25 bica really gonna cut it. I thought you needed 50 just to match 200 spiro in efficacy.

Actually, are we sure bica is a good blocker.

>>6387739
where did you hear that?
we don't know much because it's not studied for this. people have stated taking anywhere from 12.5 to 50

>>6387788
Thats why I really need to know. Bica sounds great in the zero collateral damage, but if I can't find the effective dose I'll probably just have to use cyp.

I'd kinda be sad on some leve about wrecking my balls with cyp but I'm pretty much just into guys so it's probably just a weird nostalgia.

>>6387739
Bica is effective at lower doses partially because of its much longer half life. Spiro is effective at being an antiandrogen, it just gets pissed out really quickly and so has less time to be active in the body.

Also from what I understand, spiro stops production of testosterone, while bica blocks its ability to bind. So you end up with larger amount of free testosterone that you would on spiro, but it can't really do anything.

I guess this could in theory mitigate some of the less desirable effects of spiro, but I'm not an expert on any of this shit so ymmv.

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>>6387067
He's got obvious boy tidies tho

>>6387816
I-It's just gyno baka :\\\

Is repression gen leaking or something?

How do I got about finding dates with and hooking up with other femboys? I've tried OKC and Grindr and there's an abundance of masc guys, a few twinks but practically no femboys. I've seen MAYBE 1 or 2 ever. Granted, I live in the southwest and fem guys are few and far between, but there has to be something I'm doing wrong.

>>6388080
but senpai
fem4masc is the purest love

>>6388093
The world is full of fags who worship jocks and hairy hambeasts. I want a cute, skinny guy to hang out with and cuddle. I want to fall asleep against his lithe, soft body and tenderly fuck his tight bp. I want a nerd who to play games with and dress each other up in cute clothes. I already have enough bro friends to fill my need for manly shit in my life.

>>6388080
i think true femboys are just rare

i live in a really gay area and even then the people who are attractive to me either have vaginas or are full on trans, i cant find any qt androgynous boys

>>6388200
A lot of people with femboy inclinations go about their day to day lives as girls, because it's easier to deal with normies as an andro girl than to go full non-binary/gender variant.

A lot are quire happy to say they feel more in between in private

>>6387810
They're both androgen blockers Spiro is just more potent compared to Bica which is more selective in the receptors it affects.

Both are shit tier tranny drugs

GnRH agonists is master race

>>6388352
>Spiro
>more potent
It's literally L I T E R A L L Y just a diuretic

>>6387816

Oh my god this might be the cutest Link yet.

>>6388587
>>6388587
>>6388587

>>6388594
>transbians edition
kys

>>6381177
tfw you see your doppelganger on femgen
now neither of us will be virgins