/MTFG/ - trans girl general

So how many months/years has everyone been on hormones?

3.5 years checking in, longest years of my life tbqh

Reminder that you can't pass without letting people see your girl mode.

>>6349080
reminder that u cannot post w/o making sense ;)

>>6349078
6 days.
Patiently awaiting girlbumps.

>>6349080
>pic online
passing irl is all that matters

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just got back from schoool
how are you /mtfg/

>>6349078
1 year, 7 days...
I just turned 21 today!
yay~~~

It turned out to a be a not so pleasant day, but that's okay...

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>>6349002
If you don't confront it eventually, it just festers and rips you apart. There's few things more damaging than being ashamed of what you are. Been there and done that, I really don't want other people to make the same mistake.

A good place to start is to question why you feel shame when you do. When you tell yourself it's shameful to be trans, is it something you truly believe, or is it just something that you've been told so many times is shameful that you end up internalising it?

>>6349021
I know, and it's a vicious cycle, but it has to be broken somewhere. Forcing structure into it is generally the way to break that cycle.

What kind of financial aid options does finland have?

>>6349037
Completely true, mostly in regards to fulltime, but I guess the main point is that to even have the drive to go fulltime, one must have school or work to begin with.

>>6349051
Yeah, you definitely still have some time to be a girl. I mean hell, I still don't feel that I'm quite at the point of womanhood yet, but I'm getting there. Savor those early 20s years while you can.

Idk, I don't go announcing being trans to people either. I guess the way I see it, for one day out of the year I want people to know that I exist, and that can be as much as showing up during a pride festival with a flag. Under most circumstances, trans women that transition young aren't visible, and after going to pride again I realized how empowering it actually felt to be visible for that brief period.

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>tfw u don't pass

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I COULD HAVE BEEN NORMAL IF MY PARENTS HAD BEEN OPEN MINDED AND PROTECTED ME INSTEAD OF TEACHING ME THAT DEVIATION IS WRONG AND LETTING MY BROTHER ABUSE ME FOR BEING SUCH A GODDAMN FAGGOT OF A FIVE YEAR OLD
>>6349078
11 months

>>6349092
you're retarded, you're adorable

why do you think you don't pass?

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life was but a meme

>>6349071
are you obssesed with her? she has a partner you know...

also, try to remove the top part before copy posting, how many embeds are there?

>>6349071
Why the fuck would you make an edition with Faye? Are you an alt?

>>6349094
Everyone hugboxes, even the nurses at the doctors office asked me to take a pregnancy test before surgery smdh

>>6349089
congrats on turning 21 ^_^

why wasn't it pleasant?

>>6349093
my dad was a liberal politician and still taught me that deviation is wrong. i think its just a general protective instinct that parents have, no matter how horrible that instinct may actually manifest you have to remember that it's really all out of love

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>>6349078
6 years, who /longtermtran/ here?

>>6349078
1 year, 4 months, 18 days.

>>6349078
3y5m, 29y gap, 2y2m.

>>6349055
I'd recommend therapy for the abuse. It really helps. may not solve it all, but it can lessen the triggers and their strength.

I've been working on removing all the little blocks to keep me from acting feminine. Some are triggers too. I never was really good at acting masculine. it never computed. I could act neutral/robot, and block outright feminine acts.

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Can we get some updates to the informed consent providers list? Information that is over a year old may as well not even be included in the OP.

>>6349078
7 years

Where's Eleri or ufufu to one up me?

>>6349105
>really all out of love
That would be nice if I thought they loved me

>>6349067
do u shop at thrift stores much? my partner's great at that kind of stuff from growing up poor
>i worry about how i look a lot too
I think we all do desu

vivi is another trip tho she doesn't post a lot, we met up once and she's rlly nice

>>6349072
if u don't trust ur therapist enough to talk about ur issues then ur probably not gonna make much progress, it's easier said than done but u gotta find someone you can talk to
there are professionals that deal with this kind of stuff and some have probably heard of a lot worse stuff

>>6349076
yeah I try to talk some reality into people sometimes but it's like talking to a wall built out'a self-hate and internalized discrimination

>>6349090
>and after going to pride again I realized how empowering it actually felt to be visible for that brief period.
I guess self acceptance is the first step, huh.

>>6349093
>I COULD HAVE BEEN NORMAL IF MY PARENTS HAD BEEN OPEN MINDED AND PROTECTED ME INSTEAD OF TEACHING ME THAT DEVIATION IS WRONG
hey same
something deep inside my 7-year-old self knew that I'd get bullied if I actually liked having nail polish.
bullying really really fucks with people

>>6349098
all the embeds make it funny

>>6349105
>they did it out of love!
literally the dumbest excuse, good intentions dont excuse abuse.

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>>6349090
>What kind of financial aid options does finland have?
Enough to cover living expenses but nothing beyond that.

>>6349076
>this is exactly the point that 90% of the girls here miss
Passing is the point people here miss? Are you fucking serious?
>The assumption was that you didn't decide to cross-dress without being called a faggot multiple times first.
You lost me. I know I look like a faggot that doesn't bother me in itself, I just don't intend to live as a neverpass hon living in a delusion land where everyone can pass if they just wish it hard enough.
>if you're gonna be like this, I recommend you give up on transitioning.
It's a very real possibility that I just give up on it all.

>>6349077
>It's not superficial. It's very important. We are programmed to notice actions, and reactions. There is hardware to do this in our reptile brain. It is automatic and subconscious.
I know but how people interpret those actions depends on what the actor looks like. Do they want to beat up a faggot or do they shrug it off as a girl being a girl depends on how well your looks/voice passes.

>>6349087
If you couldn't have a biological male learn 'naturalized movements' we'd all be doomed. I meant if you look like a guy you will be viewed as a guy even if you move and behave like a cis girl.

>>6349090
I would like to confront it
but I really don't know where to begin
I feel shame because I'm trans but like how can I stop feeling shame because of that

>>6349109
i'll do some research at work tomorrow. i know someone at the SFDPH who runs their trans health care department, she could probably get a list together for y'all

>>6349106
tfw could've been long term if you started as a kid

>>6349071
I know she's a hon and has mountains for shoulders but that's just mean.

>>6349106
is 3.5 long term trans yet? it certainly feels like it

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Am I a minority of a minority because i'm a trans who doesn't watch anime or is involved in a computing based profession or study?

>>6349105
Someone special got diagnosed with Herpes...
Mastercam class resulted in zero work progress because I couldn't focus...
Progesterone is fucking me up...
My room is never cool enough during the day...
I didn't go to the DMV like I planned to get my moto endorsement...
I didn't go apply to this machine shop I've been meaning to go to...
One of my best friends decided to go back on his plans to celebrate my b-day with me this weekend because he planned to go to Lake Tahoe with his GF but he forgot about it...
And a lot of other things are bothering me as well...

This week has been filled with bummers and the progesterone is making it very difficult to handle...

>>6349090
Hm, that thing about pride makes sense.
I mean, personally I still wouldn't want to go to a pride event, but now I kinda see why other people would like it.

>Yeah, you definitely still have some time to be a girl.
yay!

>Savor those early 20s years while you can.
I'll try, but fwiw I started a few months ago at 23, so by the time I pass, my early 20s will probably be over anyway :/

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>>6349125
>thinking faye is a hon

>>6349128
jesus dude, tough day :(

also,
>Lake Tahoe
are you in NorCal?

How are you going to manage the fact that your significant other has herpes? Sounds really terrifying tbqh :/

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>>6349078
369 disappointing days

>>6349112
almost all my clothes are thrift shop at this point but i really hate shopping in person
and yeah its just natural. everybody worries

i wonder if every city named portland has a lot of trans people around it?

>>6349112
We talk about other issues
I've gone through maybe 8 different therapists in my life and never trusted any of them enough to talk about all the awful shit that made up my early childhood
>>6349113
I didn't want to care
All my anxiety was put on me by my parents
Like this one time, I was maybe six
The neighborhood swim team had some kind of event and there was free nail painting, so I went and got my toes painted the team colors because it seemed fun
Later, my parents kept telling me how people were going to think badly of me and be mean to me because I had painted toenails because that's for girls and I can't be a girl

>>6349130
you're really obssesed, aren't you?

>>6349136
idk, portland oregon was actually named after portland maine tho

>>6349138
I mean it seems like you've posted more about it here than you've talked to professionals about it, maybe using email or something could make it easier?

>>6349141
>implying i'd wanna fuck someone who doesn't even live as a girl

>>6349118
basically
you're refusing to see any possible way to pass other than being cis in the first place
you can pass even when your close-up shots don't look 10/10
by your standards, a lot of cis girls wouldn't pass, and you don't understand that passing in the way you interact with the world can often can make up for a detail or two on your face.
and if you don't master things like even standing, you will never pass, no matter how pretty you are.

>>6349138
My dad wouldn't let me grow my hair out because it would make him look like he's a parent that doesn't care about his kid's appearance.
I guess he's kinda right because it would have prevented bullying, but it's not the right way to deal with shit like that.
I wish someone had just told me that there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a girl.

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>>6349120
Idk, it's a process of examining each individual pang of shame that you have and dissecting it. Ask yourself why you're feeling shame. Find the flaw in the thought process. Reassure yourself that you shouldn't be feeling shame over it. Are there specific things about being trans that make you ashamed, or is it the whole dealio?

>>6349126
I'd say so, that's past the point where things sort of settle down imo. LTT props!

>>6349129
Idk, there's no real time limit on youth desu, some people reach their 30s before finally deciding to grow up. It's not limited to trans people, some cis people just don't grow up either, although at a certain point people start to give you funny looks.

And yeah, idk. I guess I've warmed up to the idea of pride again, minus the ridiculous amount of corporate sponsorship.

>>6349113
It honestly is. It's not exactly a fast or straightforward process though.

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>>6349093
>>6349113
*hugs* me too...
Therapy for trauma. Abuse so young really fucks with the mind. Get help now, not later.

>>6349112
>and some have probably heard of a lot worse stuff
like my therapist... *sigh* I think I shocked her when I sent her my old psych records from when I was in conversion therapy.

>>6349118
>but how people interpret those actions depends on what the actor looks like.
To a degree, but if the person looks like thier internal self image, the person is more likely to get an OK versus bad. It is a big issue in black vs white. Even if somebody was never taught discrimination, they will still be more likely to figure bad for somebody with a different skin color. The good thing is a positive encounter can really swing the next encounter to OK. yes it is programmed some, but it also is innate. It come from long before we were primates. All mammals do this recognition filtering.

>>6349143
There's no anxiety of being judged or there being consequences for talking about being sexually abused
In the real world, I'd be a victim who has to get special treatment or whatever the fuck. There'd be unneeded concern, I'd be thought of differently
Here, I'm just as normal as everyone else

>>6349090
I really wanna see that gif edited with that part in akira SPOILER where the guy loses control of his body and kills his friends by crushing them inside his body.

>>6349134
Bay Area...

One of the significant's have it. I'm not going to specify who.
Poly relationships are killing me as well. I want to get with the concept and everything but it's really sucking to not be a primary, even though I knew it was going to be that way. It's really difficult to be righteous about it.

I'm not going to be sexual with that partner though. It probably wouldn't work to well anyways since we're both super subby, not to mention the herpes...

Idk... I'm slowly starting to loose my cool and it's being difficult to get it back right now.

>>6349150
At the very least, I wish I hadn't been told that there was something wrong with it
>>6349155
I'm getting all the help I can and working on more practical issues

>>6349158
I'm in Tiburon, me and another girl were gonna get coffee this weekend would you wanna do something like that?

>>6349153
Well it's really hard for me to look at myself objectively mentally. I can never really know what I truly believe, I swear it changes so often. I'm fairly certain it's the whole thought of being trans but maybe there are specific things

>>6349164
No. Probably not.
I'm not into meeting people directly from 4chan ever since I ran into hips as a consequence of meeting someone else here...

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>get drunk
>post nudes to people via text
>ugo ensues

whelp that is about all folks.


I am sure you will see me in all my ugliness soonish mtfg.

They will leak out.

>>6349153
no. Considering how much trauma is involved, it's going to take a while.

>some cis people just don't grow up either
i.e.
>weird cat ladies
>man-children

>>6349155
but like
nobody takes this kind of trauma seriously since it's not like rape or witnessing murder

>>6349163
yeah, that's kinda incredibly shitty
I remember the first time I picked out a pair of shoes, and they happened to be girls
they were like white with light blue laces
and my mom was looking for any excuse to return them

it's weird how all these memories are coming back one by one, little pieces at a time

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nini mtfg
I love you all
y'all are real sweeties
I hope I feel better
>>6349128
I'm so sorry this is tough on you
I want you to be happy
you should celebrate, ok?
please be happy

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>>6349150
>you're refusing to see any possible way to pass other than being cis in the first place
>by your standards
>and you don't understand
>you will never pass
I don't like this condescending tone you got going on. You clearly have no idea what I know and how I feel about passing, I don't know why you feel the need of putting words into my mouth. I can't have a conversation with you if you try to have me defend statements I never did and positions I don't hold. Like the first thing I said is that being cis in the first place would be ideal but passing is the best realistic alternative. I don't know how or why you twist that into me thinking only cis girls can pass.

>>6349155
>To a degree, but if the person looks like thier internal self image, the person is more likely to get an OK versus bad.
Maybe but whether you get beat up or not is pretty much whatever if you want to kill yourself already for not passing.

>>6349175
Good night Red~

>>6349176
you're acting like you have to look like a 10/10 cis girl to pass. It's stupid.

>>6349171
See, I would have been told off right in the store if I wanted girls clothes, even shoes

>>6349170
just checked my phone and no nudes :(

>>6349184
text me so I have your number and I will send them.

>>6349182
>tfw I could still look better than all of you if I tried

but you don't try so you don't look better.

eventually you're going to grow up and learn that evaluating yourself or others on how much potential you perceive them to have is fucking pointless

>>6349180
my mom is too passive-aggressive for stuff like that
I wish I remembered what shoes she bought me instead, or if she even let me pick out the replacement pair. I was like 5 at the time

>>6349188
bitch did you delete my number!?

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>>6349179
But I'm not. Passing ≠ 10/10, now can you please stop putting words into my mouth, that's so childish and counter-productive.

>>6349156
I mean it might SEEM like there are no consequences but this place literally has assholes who will try to save and spread info about u and fuck up your life just to hurt you to make themselves feel better

people have had their families contacted, had pics taken of them irl at work and school, most trips have posted enough info that they don't rlly have the protection of anonymity if someone really decides to make it their mission to harass them
if a psych did that they could lose their licence
and if u feel ur being judged too much u can just stop seeing them so what're the consequences, what is there to actually lose, and what are the ongoing losses of not dealing with ur issues?

lots of people need help, that's why psychs are a thing and ur not rlly different than plenty of other patients who need help but if you hold on to your issues than it can make u different from how it obviously impacts your life

>>6349194
Then what do you think you need to do to pass?

>>6349190
My life has had a lot of active aggression and sexual violence
I'm the really passive aggressive one

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http://www.friatider.se/tingsr-tten-rsvarligt-dra-kniv-mot-r-nare-som-riktar-pistol-mot-ditt-huvud-medan-kumpanen-skriker

>[Swedish] District Court: It is "indefensible" for one to pull one's knife upon a robber aiming a gun to your head while his companion yells 'shoot him!' - now, the victim lies convicted of manslaughter
>To protect themselves against the onslaught, the victim, who was 18 years old at the time, produced a knife and held it out towards the robber's chest. The robber then ran into the knife; according to the autopsy report, it hit his heart.
>"Before the gun came up, there was time for the victim to call for help. He had also been able to run from the scene when he got loose from the robber's grip, or had in any case the ability to try to do it," reads the judgment.
>"In any case, the defendant should have been able to use the knife on the robber with less devastating results, using it in a manner other than to stretch it out to the robber's most vital parts when the distance to the robber was little and moreover while he was moving towards the defendant.
I wonder if I'd be legally mandated to get raped if I went to Sweden and ran into a pack of refugees.

>>6349202
SWEDEN YES

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>>6349205
troll harder faggot

>>6349198
I'm not trying to argue that my trust issues make sense in how I react to them
It's just not something I can talk about to someone I see face-to-face

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>>6349165
It always is hard to look at yourself objectively, but it's generally clear when you're ruminating on something or in a low mood because of something related to being trans.

When that happens though, part of changing the thought process is to actively remind yourself of the reality instead of allowing those feelings to fester.

The reality is: there's no shame in being trans. We were born this way, we'll die this way, and we had no choice in whether we were this way. The world mocks us and shames us because they don't understand that altering our bodies, altering our presentation, and doing everything in our power to be accepted as female isn't going against nature, it's embracing it. We're not degenerates, we're not insane, we're not freaks, and we can still love and be loved.

>>6349171
Not quite what I was getting at. I'm more talking about those weird 30 year old women and men at the club or at the rave still poppin pills and partying when everyone around them is wondering if they're too old for this shit. I mean, good on them for being able to cut loose, but 30 is pushing it for going to raves.

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>>6349205
put your money where your mouth is autist

So were the melly nudes real?

Is he really that fat and does he really have a small dick.

>>6349212
that's why I suggested something like email
I just want you to get help since you're clearly in a lot of pain and it has a huge impact on your life, I really hope you can find a way to let someone help you

How do i stop a transgirl from leaving me?

how does hips have a gf while i dont

what the fuck do i lack

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>>6349163
Good, and good luck!!!!
>>6349171
>nobody takes this kind of trauma seriously
These guys do:
http://www.traumacenter.org/
many others do too. I'm working with an independent therapist here in central IA who takes it very seriously. Yeah, it is a newly recognized trauma area that hasn't seen much teaching in courses yet, but it is being studied and therapy methods are being developed. Trauma therapists who keep up to date will have heard of it.

Hear! Hear! >>6349213
>The reality is: there's no shame in being trans. We were born this way, we'll die this way, and we had no choice in whether we were this way. The world mocks us and shames us because they don't understand that altering our bodies, altering our presentation, and doing everything in our power to be accepted as female isn't going against nature, it's embracing it. We're not degenerates, we're not insane, we're not freaks, and we can still love and be loved.
Well said.

>>6349220

buy her nice clothes

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well I'm finally heading to bed

nighty night mtfg

>>6349213
I think the shame comes from how I feel about myself
like I think I'm really ugly and would be unpassable with regards to my height and shoulders
I feel I'd feel less shame if I was within average female range of size

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>>6349199
To appear feminine enough to not get clocked as a tranny/male.

For me personally FFS is probably required before I can dream of going stealth.

>>6349078
7 months
hrt does nothing except give gyno

>>6349213
>We're not degenerates, we're not insane, we're not freaks, and we can still love and be loved.
*eats 25 mg of MDMA and downs some weed brownies* ya!!! u go gurl!!!

>>6349219
>I really hope you can find a way to let someone help you
Yeah, that is the problem...

R8 my phone wallpaper

>>6349205
>even though i have a small penis
wouldn't that make you more feminine?
I mean, the head of a penis is just a big clitoris
you're basically closer to having a pussy :/

>>6349223
I'll take a look at this later, I'm tired and hungry atm.

>>6349213
seeing a 30 year old hang out with a bunch of 20-somethings is a bit weird no matter what you're doing.

>>6349235
specifically. What do _you_ need to do?

>>6349235
But ur still so masc? At least keep your gt.. otherwise, what's the appeal?

>>6349247
Some people will never appear feminine enough to not be clocked as tranny, no matter WHAT they do

And of course everyone gets old so even if you pass for a while you can't pass forever

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>contemplating about crush
>decide to tell him my true feelings
>compose seven-page heart-filled sms
>send it to him
>immediately turn off phone
>one hour later
>turn on phone
>no reply
>three hours later
>still no reply
>fuck

Have I ruined my life?

>>6349254
No, just your relationship with them

>>6349256
fuck me

>>6349153
>there's no real time limit on youth desu,
True.
I mean, a lot of what gets me is less missing out on youth per se, and more the fact that I missed all these "girl experiences" - from childhood, high school and college - that I'll never have another chance to live through.
But I can't change the past, so I try not to dwell on it.
Besides, a lot of cis people's lives get boring as shit starting in their mid-late 20s, so if I manage to enjoy that time in my life, then in a way, they'd be the ones missing out.

>the ridiculous amount of corporate sponsorship.
Heh, I'm not surprised, but I find it amusing that that's even a problem at pride events these days. I guess it just goes to show how far lgbt acceptance has come.

>>6349149
Girls can have a penis now, bigot.

>>6349247
faye and sheen are into their 30s

>>6349262
>post pic

>>6349250
yes but like
if you can't even establish what your best-case scenario is and what steps need to happen to get there
that best-case scenario is never going to happen.
There's an art to passing. I'm not saying to go out and buy a tutu. I'm saying that you need to figure out what actually compliments your body, if anything does at all.

>>6349254
give it 48 hours before panicking.

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>>6349247
>What do _you_ need to do?
Try and get enough money before I'm irredeemably hon? Gonna be a faggy boy so I can practice rest of the stuff freely while I wait. Who knows if FFS is enough. I mean, I'm not exactly blessed with the best genes here and I started the race kinda late too but it's worth a shot.

>>6349248
>But ur still so masc
Yeah it's a boys life for me for the foreseeable future. I'm not going to touch my gt and neither are surgeons so dont worry about that.

>>6349274
>what do after 48 hours?

>>6349246
Kill me inside STILL TOO BIG

>>6349272
faye looks 25
sheen looks 45

>>6349275
it kinda sounds like you get it
sorry for pushing :/

>>6349277
>crie
>a lot
>then crie some more
>maybe send another message, or call someone else who lives with him to make sure he didn't die or something

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>>6349232
Oh, the body shame feels..
Yeah, those are legit hard to deal with, but in a way it's down to being subject to the same standards that cis women are, cis women feel shame over the same things without generally even having trans proportions. That said, this isn't even some body positivity meme: women do come in all kinds of different shapes and sizes, and they find their way to get by. Unless you're really tall or really heavy set, there's likely another woman out there who has the same proportions.

>>6349237
Lol
Damn, those brownies are gonna overpower that weaksauce dose of mandy ;~;

>>6349261
Yeah, that actually still does make me kinda sad, never getting to grow up as a girl, go through high school as a girl etc. No sense dwelling on it though, I mean hell, everything I've heard about being a girl in high school sounds terrifying. If you can keep your life interesting past that of your cis friends, you're definitely coming out on top.

>>6349286
>mandy
god

the thought of centuries' worth of medical knowledge being applied to a waste like you just disgusts me to my core

>>6349283
try imgur?

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>>6349293
Y-you too

>>6349286
>If you can keep your life interesting past that of your cis friends, you're definitely coming out on top.
I played a lot of vidya, made some musics and did parkour for a bit
does that count as interesting?

Hey so I gots a question. My face passes hella well, but my 6ft tall fat body doesn't. I know I got to run every other day, but what kind of diet/other exorcises should I do? Oh, if it matters I'm on Estrogel and Spiro.

>>6349284
sheen is less attractive, but
faye is mostly lighting and angles

>>6349293
who is mandy?

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>>6349130
>thinking faye isn't a hon

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>>6349284
>it kinda sounds like you get it
Mhm if my first year taught me anything being completely naive about what's realistic is not the way to go. I don't want to end up as a non-pass meme here just because I want to believe. Realistic goals and realistic expectations even if they're cripplingly depressing compared most people's prospects around here.

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>>6349302
A good friend of mine. She's really fun when you stuff her up your nose or in a gelcap. :^)

>>6349298
I'd say so yeah

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>>6349286
Last time I measured I'm like 5 foot 11 with 17 inch shoulders
I haven't found a girl who is the same height as me, it really makes me feel uncomfortable

>>6349311
MDMA?

when will society just decide on a nickname for that drug and just stick with it??

>>6349299
fat is ok, as long as you don't look big male guy.

I think sheen passes, just not attractive

>>6349306
I have a worse one, but not posting it

>>6349320
I don't think that's really how nicknames and language in general works.

>>6349300
Still, she has good angles to work.

and sheen's not exactly an artist with photography

>>6349306
that's something else I've noticed
glasses will help you a lot if you're trying to draw attention away from the lower half of your face

>>6349312
you should meet my cousins.

>>6349311
but I just do that stuff to kill time because I don't do drugs yet

I'm >>6349261, and I didn't read >>6349213 until after I made my post.

>I'm more talking about those weird 30 year old women and men at the club or at the rave still poppin pills and partying
Oh, I didn't realize that's what you meant when you were talking about "youth".
I never got into drinking or raves or anything, and I have no interest in starting.
When I talked about keeping my life interesting, I meant more along the lines of: I'd have an interesting job, interesting hobbies, etc, and avoid being one of those people that spend all their free time watching inane tv shows.

>>6349078
0
;~;

>>6349321
I really, really don't think so.

I'm gonna get some sleep
g'night girls!

>>6349321
Yeah, but I really want to be so much smaller

>>6349306
idk, all she needs is a better hairstyle and eyebrows

and makeup

>>6349332
If you see that pic with sheen and the other women in her family imo she passes.

>>6349306
I never liked their clothes, but jeez that's a small dressing room

>>6349321
pls post it

>>6349342
uniqlo is the shit shut yr damn mouth

the dressing room is small because it's in downtown SF at the powell st mall. i've been in those dressing rooms way too many times, all of my basics are uniqlo

>>6349213
>tfw too old to go to a rave and not be creepy
Not that I ever really wanted to, I don't handle loud noise and crowds too well, but still kind of sad.

>>6349337
and I want to have a prettier face

my body passes, we should combine ourselves into 1 person

>>6349307
Nobody wants to one-up robin on the no-pass meme. Believe me.

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>>6349351
Deal

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>>6349353
Yeah. Imagine someone who has the potential to become the next big meme be told they just need a qt haircut and better mannerisms to pass. Kek.

is this the place you go when you go no where else to turn?

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>>6349324
I'd say that you're better off killing time with the rewarding things. Drugs are generally a complete fucking waste of time, at least most of the time. I've had fun doing them, but they're no substitute for real pastimes.

>>6349320
Idk, the only ones I've heard of for powder MDMA are molly and Mandy (also applied to mda). The number of slang terms for pills is just stupid though, around here they're called vitamins.

>>6349327
Yeah that's fine and that's more what I assumed you meant. I'm just using my own experiences, I know that not everyone has the same kind of youth, I've not exactly been well behaved during mine. Do whatever it is that makes you feel happy and youthful and keeps things interesting really.

>>6349312
Girls with those proportions definitely exist, even if they aren't common. I'm 5'10" with 17" shoulders, nobody has yet to comment on either of them.

>>6349334
Goodnight!

>>6349350
If you go with friends it's not that weird tho, just FYI ^^

>>6349347
hahaha,
you're funny

>>6349306
at least her shoes are cute.

>>6349347
whoa, you're in sf too

how many other trans girls in sf do you know

>>6349363
Even when I hear of trans girls mentioning they have similar proportions to me, I still don't find much encouragement. It's like a I think I'm a special kind of manly or something idk

>>6349321
lol post it

If u like ur boobs, that's agp. If u don't like ur boobs, u aren't trutrans

Heyy

How do y'all meet other transwomen irl? I'm not old enough to go to bars and I'm not desperate enough to go to a support group, but is there another way?

>>6349357
what if we got our wish,
but in some weird twist, we ended having 2 heads, kek

just love yourself famalam

>>6349338
Her hairstyle is really good. It's her massive jaw length and her shoulders that make her look like shit

>>6349362
yes

>>6349362
kind of how I ended up here I guess

>>6349381
Why would you want to?

>>6349391
Cause I'm hella lonely in a way that none of my other friends understand

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>>6349373
Idk, it's the psychology I guess. Reassuring or not, there's plenty of trans girls with those proportions that make it, and I'm pretty sure neither your height nor your shoulders will be an obstacle or something to have shame over.
There's a silver lining in being tall too, even if you aren't petit you generally get taken more seriously, and you can reach things without difficulty. I've kinda learned to like my height, wouldn't even change it if I could.

>>6349379
>tfw agp

>>6349362
I come here because fuck discussing trans shit face to face, I'd rather express myself risk free and anonymously than feel like a reject talking about it with anybody I know

>>6349384
>Her hairstyle is really good
Girl....Her hair looks like a meth lab explosion took place. She needs to wash it first, condition it, then get it styled.

Also just a little bit of makeup would go a long way desu. Isn't dollface her gf? Get her to help or something.

>>6349381
I actually haven't really met any; hopefully I'll be able to meet some people from /mtfg/ in a month or two, though.

(Also, it's unusual to come across someone else that uses "ya'll" in writing like that, haha. Did you grow up somewhere in the south?)

>>6349405
Not in that picture, no. But her hairstyle now is nice.

>>6349379

>>6347835

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>tfw friend asks me to go to pride with them next week
>tfw I say maybe
fug

>>6349405
>a little bit of makeup would go a long way desu
Well Faye looks so much like a dude with D tits that he's afraid of wearing makeup and being oogled at in public

>>6349408
Yuuup. Good ol' racist texas.

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>>6349397
idk my height and size just makes me feel like a freak desu
I feel like I stick out and just look weird

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>>6349415
Dress up like a lion and claim you misunderstood them.

>>6349412
Typical agp mtf's always trying to relate everything to computers.

>>6349395
That makes sense, but really? I feel like meeting another trans girl would just make me feel way more depressed than I already am about it.

>>6349381
First, I met a couple through 4chan.
Then one of those people introduced me to another transwoman who's now my GF.
Than my GF introduced me to a lot of other transpeeps... and now I have a femboy BF as well as an MTF GF... And the BF and GF are also dating... it's a poly relationship.
Except they have a major head start over me since they were dating for almost a year before I entered the picture.
So I'm the new one in this 3 person party and it's been difficult to cope with it since this is my first relationship.
I went WAY to fast with this and it's starting to catch up to me.

Hey, mtfg, should I put the brakes on and slow things down a bit? Or should I keep going butt naked fast the way I've been going so far?

>>6349411
Post pic plz I'm dying to see. :3

>>6349306
the nipples through the shirt tho

>>6349416
>D cup tits
Sigh....how does someone like faye of all people get blessed with giant futa girl boobs?

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>>6349421
It might be one of those things that will settle in given time. Being tall used to make me self-conscious for the same reason.

With time though, it became apparent that not only did people not really care, they often didn't even notice. Eventually, I stopped caring because nobody else even seemed to notice.

>>6349427
I can see that being an issue, but like if I met one other trans person irl, I feel like it would validate me and give me someone to talk to.

>>6349441
She got on some crazy things to induce lactation, maybe that has something to do with it? Also maybe progesterone, I don't know.

>>6349430
I'd rather not. I try not to keep embarrassing troll shit like that on my hard drive.
>>6349441
From being rich and going out to eat 10 times a week.

How stupid is it that we all want to be girls? Isnt that fucked up? I mean come on.

>>6349443
I guess so
I'm just a very insecure person and my height just makes me feel extremely masculine, especially because I don't know any girls as tall as me
I'm hoping HRT fucks me up enough to make me a little shorter

>>6349445
Just tell us where you are from. Maybe someone lives near you.

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>>6349421
Hey me too. The passing girls taller than me that I know of pass because their faces are qt enough that nobody questions their frame. That's the ideal for tall & wide girls I guess so good luck

>>6349450
Not true, several of us claim to want to be boys with boobs on HRT and maybe SRS someday.

>>6349454
You'll lose like 3 inches max and that's if you're like 6' 6"

>>6349456
I'm in Central Texas....

>>6349460
Nobody loses 3 inches. You're lucky if you get 1.

>>6349460
I know people my height who have lost height

>>6349457
Idk about my face
sometimes it's weird other times I like it

Which trip is most pure?

>>6349457
Personally I'd like to know of even one trans girl my height that passes. Or even kind-of passes. I'm sure they must exist, right?

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>>6349450
Have you ever thought about how your balls actually ruined your fucking life? Isn't that both hilarious and sad as hell?
>tfw so manly because of my testicles that I can identify trucks with the best of 'em

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>>6349450
Now for the twist: we wuz girls all along

>>6349454
Being secure comes with time and experience, I do honestly think you'll get better, hoping for hrt to help couldn't hurt.
That said, I got taller after hrt, mostly because no more depression slouch, so ymmv

>>6349449
Hey faye :p

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im off to go to my moms place for dinner
ill inevitably be back in a few hours feeling like shit :/
>>6349466
me obv

>>6349389
>>6349390
;~;
>>6349402
i tried to talk to one of my closer real world friends and he just laughed at me
i told one of my online friends and he said "it took you this long to notice?"
i guess it is a lot easier telling boys online how i want to be pretty and such

>>6349456
I'm from PA....anybody know my pain?

>>6349471
Not Faye, thank fucking god.

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>>6349464
>other times I like it
Savor that feeling I guess, I've yet to feel it.

>>6349467
Red is 6'2'' last I heard

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>>6349468
>tfw my life would without a doubt be 100% different and better had there been a vagina between my legs instead of a dick
FUCK.

>>6349071
Damn faye faye has nice legs.

>tfw going to be able to make it to Pride this year if my move goes smoothly
:D if it's not too hot I'll prolly go in gothmode

>>6349469
I've been trying to not slouch but it makes me taller so idk
when slouching I'm probably like 5'10"

I hope I can get over this but I really have doubts

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>>6349466
me

>>6349474
>>6349461
You could take a look at the zeemap.
Or try skyping. Thats a lot more personal than this general.
I am from Germany. I know your pain :D

>>6349479
I know this feel to well....like I would've lived life so much more as a girl. As a guy I was depression and didn't care about anything and prayed for death often.

What a cruel joke this life has been.

>>6349480
shitty face and personality tho

>>6349488
Do like you like wiener schinzal and bratwurst?

>>6349486
Many have said the same before, a lot of them do eventually get there. I'm sure things will at the least get better. Either way, I should probably be heading to bed. Goodnight anon!

>>6349078
1.5 years exactly in two days

And to think it's been that long and nothing has changed

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>>6349493
heyyyy lmao

>>6349466
Yeah, this big gay here.
>>6349487

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>>6349495
Good night and thank you

I've got a GP appointment in an hour where I've got to try and convince my GP to give me an ESA certificate. Any tips? I do honestly think I'm troubled enough to need one but you know how doctors can be, how do I swing it in my favour?

>>6349495
what about me? :^)

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>>6349498
ayyy lmao

>>6349466
>>6349472
ye gonna have to vote smiles here
sorry birdie

>>6349467
How tall are you?

>>6349213
>Not quite what I was getting at. I'm more talking about those weird 30 year old women and men at the club or at the rave still poppin pills and partying when everyone around them is wondering if they're too old for this shit. I mean, good on them for being able to cut loose, but 30 is pushing it for going to raves.
sheen, faye, cfh, angie, squeak take note
everyone is thinking the same thing about coming here

>>6349494
No I am a semi-vegetarian

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who /hon/ here?

>>6349466
I lost my purity only weeks ago...

>>6349519
you

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hi girls !!! how is everyone rn??

im going to my psch soon, hopefully i will get a referal or something to a new one

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>>6349505
>mfw she actually attacked her like that
N-no... that's not Faye's voice is it?

>>6349519
yep

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>>6349522
me

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>>6349525
Good morning kit.
Ill go to my psych today too.
Why do you want to go to a new one?

>>6349526
don't idolise people, kid, you're setting yourself up for disappointment
she's not a very nice person

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>>6349284
>sheen looks 45
why am I still alive
I was never going to make it

>>6349525
heeeeeeey~ I'm good
why are you hoping for a referral to a different psych?
is your current one not working for you?

>>6349525
I have a headache and I'm getting dysphoria from my chin

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>>6349519
>>6349507
oh hey girls !!!! are you two well??

>>6349529
hey ! umm my current one isn't so good for me i feel, so just thinks im a gay boy. also she's not so nice to me.

what is yours like?

>>6349536
Claire !!!!! hiiiiiiii how are you????

umm yeh p much she is not so good for me i feel !

>>6349537
i woke up with a headache actually ;~;

>>6349541
aww that sucks
how bad is it?

>>6349535
i know you might hear this often but losing weight really does take years off you.
don't be so sad theres nothing you can't accomplish with a little effort

>>6349541
Heyo kit, Im doing real swell, I hope thing are ok with you too!

>>6349535
At least you pass cmon. Also you need to work on getting rid of those bags under your eyes.

>>6349541
Mine is like "whatever, you seem stable do what you want. What should we even talk about?"

Hope you get a better one. Being called a gay boy hurts :/

>>6349549
>pass
you're hugboxing a bald man

I cried at the doctors again!
Both embarrassing, but maybe good because I probably got my point across.

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>>6349546
my headache do you mean? it wasn't so bad just really anoying. also i hate waking up with a headache cause like, normally i just want to sleep when i get one but when you wake up its like, you can't really sleep through it !!!

i hope you are feeling better soon tho anon


>>6349548
oh thats really nice to hear!! i missed you two a bit but im glad everything is good !! have you finished your classes yet??

>>6349550
ikr!!! idk mb she is just unaware or something. she doesn't seem good at all with GID or anything like that, that's why i want a referall but im not 100% sure how it works cause i get a discount for the first few visits because of medicare but idk.

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>>6349541
i've never been better, i threw away about 30 dollars worth of food because i like the smushy sounds and noises it makes when you push it into the garbage bag

>>6349556
yeah I'm gonna take a shower and hope it goes away

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>>6349557
you're such a horrific person

>>6349556
Glad everything is good, sorry you missed us and stuff I didn't think people would miss us. I finished my classes for the semester but I have 1 year left

>>6349560
c l a s s i c
I find the cropped version easier to jerk off to, hbu?

>>6349556
I would tell her that she is hurting you by not taking you serious.

>>6349563
You are her? >>6349560
If yes: You kinda inspired me to come out. Thank you.

who wants to be my friend

>still 502ing
why

>>6349541
>>6349556
I know that feel all too well
when mine said "those feelings will lessen and go away with time, trust me. You'll be a man in no time" I kind of knew I needed a new one

>>6349575
>still 420ing
and I know exactly why

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Wait, is the thread back?

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i feel so sick and depressed and shitty
i visited my mothers place for dinner tonight
nothing beats family dinner topics such as "corporal punishment should be allowed" and shaming me for being abused
and general shitiness continues

>>6349579
*hug*

This is why there should be an MtFG house somewhere...

A place where you can go when you can't put up with family.

>>6349572
can we do coke?

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Well the last few days have been pretty bleak.

>>6349588
Welp, you need a hug too.

*hug*

What's up?

>>6349581
me and puru and ava are doing that desu
>>6349579
smiles you can come up here with us and we can be your bigf sisters :D

>>6349592
if only ;~;

>>6349592
...
In Auzzie land?

Or in Europe?

Maybe there should be 1 or 2 per continent...

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How do you get over social anxiety? Does anyone know?

>>6349577
drugs are bad lol

>>6349581
keen af

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>>6349604
nah drugs are good bby

>tfw I wrote rugs are good and I had to go back and fix it

http://www.strawpoll.me/10438121

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>>6349071
Awww I always wanted a Faye edition!

>>6349588
Hey Basic! What's going on?

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>>6349610
>tfw I've made multiple flannel editions myself

>>6349610
>I've always wanted a Faye edition
That's what she said

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>>6349560
kek that made me want to look up my old posts
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/4659406/#q4659831

goddamn 4chan making this late

>>6349566
>>6349566
Yes that's me from preHRT times

And well, uh, thank you and I feel super humbled by that, I'm super happy that I could help with something as important as that <3

>>6349078
1 1/2 months

>>6349624
I remember when we had a minecraft server in the OP
I remember when minecraft was cool
jk minecraft was never cool
but I rmemeber when it was fun

>>6349616
Edie prefers Sgt mode
>>6349615
That's no fun doh

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>>6349611
>>6349590
Dealing with the realisation that I'm fucked and looking worse every single day.

>>6349634
Somehow, I doubt that's true.

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>>6349603
All of my solutions involve testosterone

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>>6349615
I'm going to have to bully you for using that pic so much

>>6349588
Same. Hope it gets better for you soon.

>>6349596
Guess.

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I spent the last two hours watching firefly and putting out lit matches on my thighs instead of eating because sad

>>6349547
I'm trying but like everything else in life I'm a failure at it.

>>6349631
oh I never made that connection that you were flannel from the minecraft server
unless you weren't

>>6349639
there was a flannel in the minecraft server?
that wasn't me lol

>>6349626
I never made the connection who you are. :D
It really helped seeing you transition, when you got your wig etc.
Never understood why you did the porn stuff tho.

>>6349636
>not making all your solutions threesomes instead

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>>6349641
oh ._.
like I said
fail at everything
have a bunnings sausage sizzle

i want to die

>>6349603
Girls aren't meant to be confident

>>6349644
i havent had a bunnings sausage sizzle sausage in ages :_:
pls send

brb chugging bleach

>>6349549
I'm 24 and I have eye wrinkles and I'm getting bags from not sleeping so I've been looking into this. You can do a lot to get rid of them. There's retin A, vitamin C, micro dermabrasion, chem peels, laser, and lower eyelid surgery. botox and fillers work really well but you would have to get them once a year. There is a lot of options.

>>6349645
aww anon whats wrong :c

>>6349644
>fail at everything
that is not a reasonable reaction

>>6349647
I am less confident than most girls I know
>>6349636
Why did they give the qunari horns after dragon age origins?

>>6349649
okie

>>6349656
but I do, its accurate.
I made that spaghetti
and I made this spaghetti
I'm bad at all things

>>6349645
no ma'am
you're here forever

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>>6349658
nooo :( pls dont think that sheen

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>Tfw you don't want to die because heaven will be filled with happy ever after couples and you have no one to spend eternity with

I don't even want to chase. I just want human contact

>>6349603
benzodiazepines

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>>6349660
its true though
here, have two sausages on bread

>>6349645
>>6349661

>>6349078
About 30 minutes.

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>>6349515
>anyone over 30 shouldn't be here
Nice meme :)

>>6349657
>I am less confident than most girls I know

Then you are more girlish than those girls

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>>6349665
noo sheen
ur atleast good at making me feel better pls stick around
>>6349667
congrats on starting anon ^^ a lot to look forwards to

Why is the thread ded?

SSRIs and welfare medical certificate acquired! gonna go hand it in to the job centre later today :D

I've been prescribed Fluoxetine, anyone here been on it?

>>6349676
I'm on it.

It's preddy gud.

>>6349676
not dead just real strayan hours
congrats on med certificate ^^

>>6349662
I'll look into this, thanks
>>6349670
So I'm not just a sperg?

>>6349676
I was for a bit when I was like 16

>>6349676
>abnormal dreams, abnormal ejaculation, anorexia, anxiety, asthenia, diarrhea, dry mouth, dyspepsia, flu syndrome, impotence, insomnia, decreased libido, nausea, nervousness, pharyngitis, rash, sinusitis, somnolence, sweating, tremor, vasodilatation, and yawning
as medication side effects go, these are pretty light

>>6349685
wut?

I get none of these.

>>6349686
they're not 100% lol
just common enough to be noteworthy

>>6349688
Not really...

Nausea's common but wears off after the first week, none of the others are.

>>6349681
Yes it's normal to be afraid. That's why woman are woman and men are men

You're a girl and you need a big strong bf to escort you when you go outside

>>6349686
The only ones there with a 10%+ occurrence rate is asthenia (fatigue more or less), nausea, diarrhoea, anxiety, dizziness, headache, insomnia, nervousness, somnolence and tremor. And they all pretty much disappear after a week or two.

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>>6349685
What would an abnormal ejaculation be like?

>>6349685
to be fair I have like half of those normally anyway

>>6349691
I know lol I've been on ssris before
I got that shit terribly for the first week
well not all of it >>6349701 so idk

>>6349701
it's stripey and makes a whistling sound when it comes out

> Tfw a pretty cis girl stands next to you with her baby in the subway :( and the baby is constantly smiling at you

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>>6349705
that made me laugh like a total fucking retard

>>6349705
Kek that's basically what my sleepy mind imagined. Confetti and stuff.

>tfw morning shower feels extra nice

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>>6349706
>babies