/mtfg/ - transgirl general: Inconsequential Edition

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>>6080376
Eehhhh

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>>6080379
>implying you will never pass
fgttt

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nth for only you stop hugboxing
You'll even get a nice certificate!

hi

I like taking it easy

>started hormones a month before i turn 20
am i safe?

>>6080384
Uhhhhh, have you seen me? Like ever?
>>6080387
After 16, you play the genetic lottery.

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>>6080387
I started right after my 20th birthday so no way unless you look very feminine already.

>>6080387
i started like a month after 20

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>>6080385
Thats not my name tho
>>6080387
Mayyybbeee. Do you look like a girl at all?

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>>6080391
I've seen you and even talked to you once faggot.

>>6080387
>>6080391
>>6080393
genetic lottery. I've seen girls who stated at 14 still end up looking busted with a weird jaw or face feature that didn't look right

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>>6080376
easy
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y

>>6080387
it's rlly more luck of the genetic draw

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>>6080372
>>6080373

honestly feeling ugly and being self-obsessed is kind of a luxury. ya'll need some perspective.
gender dysphoria occurs when there's a disassociation between your mind and body.
self-hatred isn't always a part of the package, and when it is, it doesn't need to be nearly as prevalent as ya'll make it.
for most people who can't get past that, cosmetic and superficial changes do nothing to fix it. no offense to her, but look at angie.
or brad. or feefs. or a million other trans women.
you need to stop focusing so much on yourself so much and have a life that doesn't consist solely of
>tfw i can't look at myself in a mirror
like most normal people don't look in the mirror at themselves all day. even i don't and i'm a makeup obsessed whore.

>>6080382

since when did agreeing with you ever shut you up?

I'm glad I got pretty good results on the genetic lottery!

>>6080369
i run an sc2 blog as part of a school thing

what do you want to know about?

>>6080368
>tfw even bf hugboxes me and i can't coax out his real opinion of how i look

sigh...

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>>6080387
Yeah, "too late" is a stupid meme anyway. Sure, my life would have been a lot better if my first transition hadn't been cut short by PTSD. Still, I'm doing fine now.

>>6080404
>tfw passingbutUGLY consolation prize

ITT: children. Broken minded, scientifically illiterate, circle jerking chicken shit children.

Holy fuck this place is awful.

>>6080411
are you scientifically literate anon?

>>6080411
>children. Broken minded, scientifically illiterate, circle jerking chicken shit children.

Holy shit why are you bullying gaygen?

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>>6080396
It only has the issuer's name on it!
>>6080398
Ahhhhh, so it is you lain! You know what I sound like, and look like, sooooo where's the disconnect? I don't have passing in my cards.
>>6080399
>tfw you lost
>>6080411
See you tomorrow!

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>>6080372
Starcraft will always have a special place in my heart
what is SF5?

>>6080401
thanks for putting up with my whining yesterday (or the day before?)
I finally contacted my endo. guess Ill get an appointment within three weeks :3

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Gamergate is in the right.

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>>6080401
>self-hatred isn't always a part of the package

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>>6080401
Everyone's different and I get what you're saying but I really don't obess over the mirrio or my image it doesn't stop me from feeling disgusted and hating myself. It goes up and down how much I care or let it effect me but its just how things are. Trying to work on myself but getting over the self hate is not easy.

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>>6080392
Doesn't mean a thing, I started at 35 and most cis women my age wish they could look as good as I do.

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>>6080401
You don't need to be mad

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>>6080411
Woooow

>>6080416
I think you could!
Not doomed for hondom like me at least.

>>6080423
my sides

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I feel so fucking bad today. I just got off the phone with my transcare clinic that my general doctor finally got me connected to.

April 1st I finally had my insurance activated so I went and saw my general doctor. Asked for HRT and told him I wanted informed consent model.

Tries to find doctors in Indiana that can work with me. Found new clinic just opened. They schedule me for fucking MAY 30th. So here I am early April and I hear May 30th is the soonest they can see me. I've constantly been asking for finasteride but my general doctor wont write it for me because he thinks it would be best to let my transcare doctor handle it all.

I have the general evaluation at the clinic on the 4th.

First appointment on the 30th. Gonna be a meet/greet/blood lab. Then two weeks or so later I come back for a longer meeting to go over results and get my HRT.

I came out last May. It's going to be over a full year that I waited for HRT. I don't know why but this is literally crushing me today. I don't have anywhere else to cry about this.

I can't capture in words how bad it feels that I have to wait another 50 days to get hormones. I just keep thinking if I could start today, in 50 days I would have so much progress.. If I would have started a year ago I would be so far along. FUCK BEING TRANSGENDER.

>>6080409
You're not though.
You still don't pass

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hi whats going on in here

>>6080423
LOL
You look like Heath Ledger in drag

>>6080432
Well, I've been full time since 2014 and I never get clocked. You're right, that means I don't pass. Please, try that with someone else...

>>6080435
Same old same old

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>>6080428
>hugboxing me

>>6080437
These are hugboxing you.
Anyone can tell with that forehead, hands, shoulders, nose and chin

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>>6080417

of course. :)
i'm glad you're getting your mones and stuff, and i hope that helps. also i hope your anxiety stuff improves, it seems really hard to deal with.

>>6080420

it's not. HRT isn't some magical cure all for transsexualism. it's a treatment approach.
that's why many self-obsessed, self-hating trans people still off themselves at about the same rate post-surgeries and pre.
i hate the whole ideology that at some point you stop being trans, or that the superficial or medical aspects are more important than the internal ones. they aren't.

>>6080421

i've never met a human being who managed to be fulfilled in any way in their lives while hating themselves.
people are not different. understanding how to be comfortable with self-hatred is not a positive.
though i think you understand that and you're working on yourself which is great, and i wish you nothing but the best.
i just haven't ever seen anyone who obsessed over it ever actually improve.

>>6080427

i'm not mad. i'm being blunt. there is a substantial difference. i was also seriously asking you a question.
you know as well as i do that people agreeing with you doesn't change your opinions of yourself, or help anything. so what would work?

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>>6080437
You look like my dad if he was skinny and put on makeup and a wig

>>6080439
I never hugbox.

>>6080435
Self-hate turning to trying to tear down others.

How was your guy?

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>>6080445
Except you are right now...

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>>6080443
I got drugs and cuties to love me so fuck myself. If I'm ever happy with myself I'll stop hating myself

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>>6080455
n o
I know how shit hugboxing is ;)

>tfw transwomen in their late 40's and 50's tell you you'll pass just fine
>tfw being hugboxed by people more than twice your age

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>daddy, do you think I look sexy in this?

>>6080443
Well it gets annoying when people tell say that I look fine when I'm obviously don't.

I get it, people want me to try and feel good, but lying isn't a way to do that

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>>6080458

i'm glad you realize there's a difference between people loving you, and loving yourself at least.

>>6080461

at least they're happy with themselves. call it delusion but that's more than a lot of the girls here can say.

>>6080464

>I get it, people want me to try and feel good, but lying isn't a way to do that

...so what is? you don't even know, do you?

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>>6080461
>tfw even cis people and passable transgirls hugbox
No escape

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>>6080462
No daddy only likes me fuck off

>>6080466
>...so what is? you don't even know, do you?
You don't have to know how to do something to know a way not to
Different anon, by the way

>>6080466
>at least they're happy with themselves. call it delusion but that's more than a lot of the girls here can say.
Yeah, you do have a point. That's one thing older ones have that younger ones don't. That acceptance of self. I guess part of the problem is beauty is already so faded by then in their peers they don't actually need to feel pretty, just validated by society humoring them.

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ok i'm gonna go get ready cause if i keep reading and responding to these posts i'm going to just go off on everyone.
i'll check back later after i do everything i need to for the day before work or something maybe.
not like ya'll care if i do i'm just letting you know.

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>>6080466
Of course! Why else would I be here still

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>>6080443
thanks <3
I hope it does, but it has been up and down for a long time now.

youre taking progesterone, right? I always notice that when I run out that my confidence (what little I have I mean) goes even lower when I lose half a cupsize. I dont even know why. I am usually not obsessed with this.

>>6080461
They probably mean that you're going to pass better than they do, which is probably true.

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>>6080473
>tfw old and can't even be delusional properly

>>6080467
This is probably going to sound crazy, but the overwhelming majority of people will never obsess over your features as much as you do.

Most cis people won't even know enough to care that your shoulders are 8.3% wider than female average for your height/weight, or that your chin is slightly blunter than is common, or that you have .5 cm less space to your eyelids before your eyebrows, or that your hairline is a little ragged, or...

No one will ever care as much as you do, except other self-destructive people trying to point out why others should be as miserable as they are.

>>6080466
All people have to do is not lie.
I feel a lot more comfortad when the truth and not lie.

For example, I have 16.5" shoulders. When someone tells me they are fine when my shoulders are obviously nfl tier, it doesn't help and just makes me feel worse about myself

>>6080474
Have a relaxing prep! Also: totally care. When it's not BDD hour on mtfg, I love talking with you.

See you when you get back.

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>>6080484
Alright but I look like a man and most people agree I think.

>tfw nose with a bump
At least I'll be a handsome husband until rhinoplasty.

>>6080489
You lost weight, got a haircut, and started taking care of yourself right? How did those things turn out?

>>6080489
You've declared that onto them, but it's privileged information of theirs, not yours, how they perceive you. You're allowed to think it, but the only thing you are aware of is how you look to yourself, what people say, and how they behave.

>>6080363

Sound design? Tell me more.

>>6080363
Well, getting the hell of 4chan would be a good start.

>>6080501
i just have to edit a radio play with sfx, ambiance, fitting music, etc

its just an entry level course for my web design degree.

>>6080496
Hump isn't big deal, it's just a big deal if your nose sticks out really far.

>>6080486
"your shoulders make you look like a linebacker, sorry"

that better?
seriously though how would I address such a thing, i really dont know what to say in that scenario and nothing isnt good enough
especially when a friend asks me something

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>>6080496
iktf
>tfw so manly your dad feels the need to add son to his birhtday message
Fucking hell

>>6080497
Takes tiiime, i'm too gross to get a haircut still but at least i'm back on hrt.

You agree that I did look like a man though?

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>>6080506

Huh. Sounds like a neat project, if that's your thing. I just finished my second semester of music recording technology. Different skill set and end product, but I'm a huge audio nerd so that still sounds interesting.

>>6080486
You're writing things like you want compliments...

16.5" is fine anyway, what you're most likely lacking is hips, which is what makes your upper body look large.

"I love you son, you're my boy innit. The last male carrying the name. I'm so proud to see you growing up into a big strong man."

"y-you too"

>>6080512
You looked like shit, but not a man. Doesn't sound like you've been moving forward either.

Holy shit you are all literally cancerous. No wonder people want to eradicate transgender people. You can't even remotely get along with each other.

Reading this thread has changed my mind about transgender people. You are all mentally ill narcissists that hate yourselves and hate the world.

I'm very glad most of you will end up killing yourself since you can't even empathize or help those that are suffering in your same position. Basically sociopaths.

Do the world a favor and if you can't even spread positivity to those in your shoes who need it most, kill yourself.

Sincerely,
Someone with XX chromosomes

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>>6080520
>tfw dad calls you son and man and shit all the time and never does it to my three brothers
why

>>6080524
I wish I could stop looking like shit ;_;
Also pretty sure it's only the pics making you think I don't look like a man.

inb4 I look manlier when i'm done losing weight

>>6080525
>caring about tripfag drama on any board

All tripfags are degenerate cancer, not just trannies.

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>>6080525
Nothing like some gr8 8/8 b8 in morning

>>6080510
At least it's being honest

>>6080517
It isn't because women who have those broad shoulders are usually heavy set or athletic.

I would need atleast 4" of hip growth to off set it

>>6080526
>why
Because he wants to have sexchy timu with you.

>>6080526
Is that you lain?

>The return of doughnut

Sickening

>>6080535
It's on the wider side sure, but you're probably taller than average anyway.
How much extra hip width you need is completely dependent on how wide your hips are, there's not a set amount.

>>6080449
super good >.>
>>6078449

how r u today bb?

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>>6080525
>xx chromosomes
>on 4chan of all places
I guess you failed life senpai

>>6080507
It does that too. I'm going to start saving money to save money for rhino.

https://unsee
cc/pemotadu/

I've certainly seen bigger but never on a woman.

If everything else is a damn miracle (or the hons infect me with self-acceptance) I might leave it. It's kind of goofy looking instead of just misfortunately bulbous or shaped weird I think. At least from the front.

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>>6080537
yes

>>6080540
I'm just taking a break from ds3 ;-;
Bullying shitters is exhausting.

>>6080535
no i want the model answer, seriously.
i dont live for insulting my friends and its never been in my nature to do so
how can you put it delicate enough to not be a cunt but not hugboxing

>>6080547
Your nose is the least of your problems

>>6080555
Yeah, I know.

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>>6080549
I missed your depressive ass

>>6080555
hi do you wanna do me next?

>>6080549
Where the fuck have you been, Edgar has been allowed to make a return. I need my wingman

>>6080546
Kekked p hard

>>6080549
Haven't seen you around in awhile, what's new with you?

All gay men should be killed

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what's the trick to look EXACTLY like this?

>>6080564
Everyone who posts on /pol/ should be killed desu senpai

>>6080567
I agree

>>6080459
idgi. You know that you just look like a really fucking tomoko ass grill right? If you wanna see a man look at any pic of me.
>>6080525
I actually don't hate myself tbqh.

>>6080566
Regularly exercise and being a girl

>>6080566
XX chromosomes

>>6080410
>ugly but but great male feature genetics and muscle growth consolation prize

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>>6080558
You too!

>>6080560
Does Elliot still post too?
>elliot and edgar in the same thread
Sounds like hell tbhon

>>6080562
Waiting for weight loss and hoping it will help me pass because if it doesn't I dunno what to do :s
Also vidya

>>6080571
I think I look manlier irl tho, me being overweight is probably worse than my face for passing :-)

>>6080566
get fit! get curves
>tfw girls regularly comment on your curves

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>>6080578

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>>6080562
I contacted my endo.
I hope she responds soon.
are you proud of me bby?

>>6080567
h-hey thats not nice.

I wanna shave my head. What do I need for a feminine buzzcut?

>>6080582
Maybe not but its doing the wrong thing for the right reasons senpaitachi

>>6080582
Yes I am, congrats ^^
How long does it usually take your endo to get back to you?

>>6080578
Nice, are you working out or just dieting?

>>6080581

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>>6080588
24 hrs. we're friends, Ive her private emailadress.
she forgets to respond sometimes though

>>6080587
I am not sure I want you to kill me tho. how would you do it?

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fuck school for real

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>>6080589

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>>6080585
A feminine skull.

>>6080588
Dieting atm because vidya, I hope it's working but maybe I should work out too.

Would be so dank if it helped me pass eventually tbhon.

>>6080546

>I guess you failed life senpai

Yeah because your twisted, distorted, and myopic world view of what it means to be a woman is filled with fantasy that it's all about being the center of attention and attractiveness.

Apparently to you if a woman is on 4chan that means she is somehow damaged goods? That just illustrates how little you understand or will ever understand about what it means to be a woman. Typical sexist male shit.

"womyn arn't allowed on 4chan!!"

Am I not allowed to have a vagina and use the internet too?

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>>6080591
Line you up facing a big ditch, stand behind you and blow your brains out. Done and done. But you're probably cute enough to spare

>>6080596
I bet you're fat.

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I want super powers

>>6080596
Are you retarded?
Anyone that spends their time on 4chan, and is cis, is a complete loser and failure.

Only exceptions are the more "normie" boards.
/lgbt/ isn't one of them, since there's no reason for LGB to come here, as there are lots of other LGB communities.

>>6080604
You already have one. The power to be an extraordinary cunt.

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>>6080594
Losing weight is hard
>>6080596
This is what you do with your free time. You fail and you're probably fat.
>>6080604
Me too..

>>6080544
Wahhhh. That sounds amazing. I'm liking stalker#2's style.

I just passed out when I got home yesterday, woke up long enough to take my mones, then passed back out. New job can't come soon enough, because that's a wasted Sunday.

And today I'm working even longer hours in a place I can't reasonably fit my exercise mat. But I wound up listening to Marina and the Diamonds, which I enjoyed, and there's yet more music to go today.

Oh! And my first endo appointment is tomorrow. She didn't tell me to do anything special in preparation, but I was hoping for some wisdom from others on best practices for that. Sadly, last thread no one answered. Help?

>>6080591
Nice. Hormones soon then!

>>6080594
Working out is good, helps you to avoid becoming skinnyfat. I do cardio while playing console games, if you don't want a reason to play less vidya :P

>>6080596
No, you misunderstand. You failed at life because you have nothing better to do on a Monday morning than to bait trannies :^)

>>6080606
>tfw no cunt

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>>6080601

Not fat, just something you fake girls will never be: curvy.

>>6080605
Projecting. I'm a lesbian and I come here for cis-lesbian chat. I also browse /mu/.

>>6080607
I prefer curvy. I'm on the clock right now so I'm making money anyways.

>>6080609
see above.

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>>6080596
>Apparently to you if a woman is on 4chan that means she is somehow damaged goods?
yes.

>That just illustrates how little you understand or will ever understand about what it means to be a woman.
I am stealth. I know grill life pretty well :^)

>"womyn arn't allowed on 4chan!!"
oh you are, I mean, I am here as well I guess.
Theres still something wrong with you. depression, anxiety,body issues, being a social outcast... something is.

>Am I not allowed to have a vagina and use the internet too?
I have one as well. arent that hard to get nowadays bby.
also
>>6080609

>>6080599
okay I like this idea :3
dead in a ditch was always my dream future

>>6080617
Top kek

>>6080617
ahaha

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>>6080617
Fucking kek man the harpons lads
This sum gr8 b8
>>6080618
Yayy!! I get to fuck the hole while its warm

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>>6080617

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>>6080607
It's not really hard it's just hard to be patient and stuff when you feel like shit most of the time.

>>6080609
How to wake up properly in the morning so I can work out without being dead though?
I think that's like the hardest part and when I start invading people in DS3 or something there's no stopping.

>>6080596
You came into the /lgbt/ board of 4chan and stuck around long enough to see that they were miserable and periodically taking that misery out on one-another, THEN, because that offended your moral sensibilities, you took some more time out of your day to try to make them feel more miserable and urge them to suicide (because they're such bad people).

It's unclear what you could be winning at, because it's certainly nothing related to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDSf3Kshq1M

Just a reminder.

>bees=mtfg
>hornets=chasers

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>>6080617
>"curvy "
>lesbian
>hates trannies
>prickly feminist rants
God could you be more of a stereotype?

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>>6080625
>DS3
I just don't get it.

>>6080609
Eyyy derpanna.

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>>6080625
I just get the urge to stuff my face and I hate it. Fighting my fat self all day is hard but I'm gonna win god damn it. Only took me like four months to loss weight last time though. But I'm not starving as hard as last time.

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>>6080617
oh, I didnt know it was you lol.

>>6080622
yay ! :3

>>6080631
Ignoring the whatever-it-is, hi Elanna! How's it going?

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>>6080630
>tfw too ugly to be chased

>>6080634
Coffee helps~

>>6080632
You should kill yourself

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>>6080639
Wish I liked coffee

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>>6080642
It's gud and I need it to stay awake now since i'm really old.

Didn't like it at first though, just started drinking because I kept messing up my sleep schedule and stuff.

i hate having a fucked up face

>>6080651
im sorry hon

>>6080638
Not bad, just waking up, about to start into hunting for work. How are you today?

>>6080632
Eyyy

>>6080625
Set an alarm, learn discipline. You're 22, a bit of self control goes a long way.

>>6080648
Happy slightly belated birthday. Did you do anything last week for it?

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>>6080648
Ive heard so! I'd need like a ton of sweet creamer and it would prolly keep me fat. I laid in bed like all day two days ago cause I was so tired didn't eat didn't drink got up like once. Think coffee would have been nice.

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>>6080657
you should try cappuccino with cacao flavor. we drink that all the time.

>>6080651
You have a cute face what more would you want senpai

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>>6080620
>>6080621
>>6080623

Don't you laugh at me. I'm a trained fire arm user.

>>6080627
I'm just trying to make this community a more friendly place.

>>6080636
>>6080652
I'm not fat, I'm curvy. Can't we appreciate bodys of all types? That's one thing I don't understand about you fake girls. Surely you can just be comfortable in your own skin? Think about all that male privilege.

> masculine transwoman with a penis is still a woman
>when you talk about passing it's about being a pretty fem girl

>>6080663
There are literally 100s of examples of how transwomen as a group have less privilege then every other group in the United States, even transmen

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>>6080661
Need to learn how to make such things or buy a machine that does.

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>>6080655
I'm 23 actually ;-;

>>6080651
pls
>tfw face is literally a square and huge nose with big brow

>>6080656
Thanks!
Not really, a qt bought me DS3 and I got some money from family.
Haven't really done anything for birthdays since my early teens.

>>6080657
I used to put milk in my coffee, don't remember if it actually changes the taste but it looks better.

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>>6080663
no offense, but the vast majority of people will perceive you as a whale, not a human woman.
you could pass if you lost some weight and got ffs though.
I believe in you hon

>>6080665
My idea of passing is trying to look like a boy but failing.

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>>6080674
Makes it smoother but unless its flavored I don't think it changes the taste

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>>6080567
are these the best pics you can find? amateur

>>6080686
>>6080652

wrong faggot

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>>6080686
H'wat

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im a possum
scratch my head =w=
don't scruff me >__<

>>6080567
I'm from /pol/. Want to say that to my face?

>>6080663
>friendly
Be the change you want to see.

>>6080674
Even more so then. Discipline goes a long way.

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>>6080682
>having anything other than man-mode
Gosh what a loser

>>6080630
>tfw have a boyfriend who demands he's straight even though i don't pass at all

is he secretly a chaser?

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>>6080692
I like /pol/

>>6080694
All I have is my boy mode. It looks like a girl and my friends don't respect my masculinity. ;_;

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>>6080682
Same

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>>6080692
End yur life

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>>6080689
Still as crazy as ever.

>>6080696
post pics

>>6080567

The last genocide to be committed is /pol/.

beautiful desu

>>6080700
;A;

>>6080703
>yfw mis skeleton died

>>6080692
I'm a communist, want to have fiery communist/natsoc lewds?

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>>6080705
bring it on transfag

>>6080704
https://unsee
.cc/gaposuti/

lol

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>wake up
>check the usual threads I follow
>one of us got posted in an entirely different thread
Well this is weird.

>>6080705

Honestly I have never physically hurt anyone in my life but I would have no hesitation to eradicate the people that really believe in what /pol/ stands for.

/pol/ is a cess pool of hatred fueled by subjective moral and intellectual superiority.

b-b-b-ut the jews

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>>6080709

>>6080431
50 days is nothing
i went to my doctor in september
in january i got a letter from the gender clinic saying i would get my first appointment in three and a half years

>>6080710
that person got kicked in the head because they were a twat if i remember right
and that negro amigo had a short fuse

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>>6080705
Kek its fun to dream
>>6080712
I see other peeps all the time. Who'd you find?

>>6080655
Had a really nice tomato bisque with jalapeno in it. Currently waiting for the clock to finish its full rotation so I can go home and get into some serious body hair removal.

First endo appointment tomorrow. Please, will you (or anyone) tell me what to expect or prepare? Because 2 threads of asking with 0 replies is not helping.

I hope the job hunt goes smoothly! You've staked out your prospects?

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>tfw sun is too bright
Winter when

>>6080710

You /pol/acks and alt-righters like to call the left a bunch of pussies but you seem to forget the most bloody and violent revolutions in all of history were driven by leftist revolutionaries.

Even Anti-fa and Revolutionary Front in EU beat the shit out of nationalists/fascists. You guys are fucking pussies.

/pol/ talks about how bad the world is and how cuck'd everything is but in reality all of you are too much of pussies to go out and do anything about it. Instead you will stay in your room, jerk off to futanari, and bitch about the Jewish globalist conspiracy.

>>6080373
THANK YOU mado
finally

thank fuck, I was starting to think I was the only one who feels this

>>6080665
Well, at the end of the day, passing is just passing. Thing is, most people who post about passing here have no idea what it's actually about because they're either trans girls who haven't dared yet to go full time and just live as girls, or worse, cis trolls. In daily life, there's no such thing as toying with angles or lighting, but how your face looks is just a fraction of what allows one to pass flawlessly. Also, fuck "feminine" stereotypes, sure you can be cute or pretty that way. But acting like a dumb doormat and wearing clothes no self-respecting woman would is a major damper when it comes to reaching actual beauty. Beauty is largely about distinctiveness, so stereotypes definitely aren't beautiful. Good luck being striking and memorable if you have a face that looks straight out of a South Korean pretty girl factory.

>>6080711
still cute tho

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>>6080722
You might recognize her Mado :T

>>6080723
>tomato bisque with jalapeno
ooo well arent you fancy

I cracked a tin of mackerel onto instant noodles today :P

>>6080651
your face is CUTE
if I wasn't literally a spaz I'd draw it or something

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>>6080731
Some of us are just too manly to go fulltime oki?

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>>6080729
https://youtu.be/iobAHoIbCkc

tell me more

>>6080732
idk senpai

>>6080726
>tfw your bf likes to turn all of the lights in the apartment on
>tfw I prefer all of them off

It's bright as hell all day from the sun and I can't even escape into darkness at night. ;_;

>>6080682
Well, by that metric, I passed pre-everything, sadly. Never managed to properly present as a guy, it's harder that you'd think when your voice, body language, gait and other things that are hard to control are anything but male.

>>6080739
cfh is pretty manly and is fulltime, gotta make it work dawg

>>6080719

HOLY FUCK! Seriously?! Why? That kind of consoles me a little bit. How old are you? I'm starting my transition mid-20's.

>>6080723
My first endo appointment I was given bloodwork and a prescription. There was a quick check of vitals and a complete disinterest in anything I had to say.

>>6080742
>tfw no bf to get upset at
why life ;_;

>>6080746
Man genes are too strong with me, i'm fucking 5´10" and look older and manlier than my dad.

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>>6080733
No but I like what I'm seeing

>>6080740
Swedes are such pussies no matter their political orientation. Why didn't everyone else pile in? Get yourself a proper riot. Even Germans do it better.

>>6080608
she will probably draw blood so you might need to fast beforehand. otherwise its unlikely that you'll walk out with a script tomorrow.

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>>6080753
Yuki never showed you those? She did only post them here once so it makes sense I guess.

>>6080719
And that's why I skipped stupid gatekeepers altogether this time around. Lessons learned. 30 months between my first HRT order and SRS. And in just three months, I'll be done getting my full ID change and I'll be done with my transition.

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>>6080717
I want there to be more images like this ;_;

>>6080723
Sounds delicious. Expect a standard medical appointment, a few questions, some papers to sign off on, and a requisition for bloodwork. It's nothing crazy really.
I've got a few chemist jobs staked out, just need to brush up my resume, then apply to 3 of them today. Possibly more, depends how long it takes to customise those cover letters.

im a """"""""""girl"""""""""""

>tfw not at least unpassing-but-cute
at least I'm nice and stoned so I don't care
went to admit to my supervisor that I've stalled on my coursework for the last 8 weeks and felt basically no anxiety, checked my post and found I've got my psychiatrist referral, first appointment is in a couple of weeks, picked up new asthma meds whilst walking in the rain, all this while I've been having food poisoning the last couple of days... weed is brilliant.

also thank fuck I've finally got this psych referral sorted, I'm eager to find out exactly what the FUCK is wrong with me mentally

>>6080761
what kind of therapy do you have? is it talking therapy or cbt or something else?

>>6080751
>>6080755
>>6080759
Thank you all very much.

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How to stop being an ugly man and become an average woman?

>>6080770
Go fulltime

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>>6080757
Welp I have never reason to live anymore. Goodbye friends!

>>6080665
hilarious memes, faye

>>6080731
>striking
>memorable
>beauty is largely about distinctiveness
by that logic I'm the most beautiful person in this thread, as opposed to "easy to pick out in a police lineup".

>>6080761
oh fuck off retard

being a cute boy doesn't make dysphoria and less bad. i would rather be 5% closer to passing as an ugly as fuck girl and 5% cuter as a boy.

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>>6080771
How

>>6080770
Don't ask me. Im hideous

>>6080719
>>6080748
Let me guess, Leeds? Thanks again, Tory cunts.

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>>6080759
>tfw not playing dress up with you and wander around the streets as qt natsoc/communist girl squad
WHY EVEN LIVE

>>6080778
1. Put on girl clothes
2. Go outside
3. Bam, you're fulltime

>>6080761
>but-cute

Edgar's delusions.

>>6080771
fulltime doesn't cure being ugly

>>6080746
To be honest, my face is probably the manliest thing about me. Well, and the badass attitude, I guess. Thing is, I grew up as one of the girls and it pretty much shaped everything else. Even though my role models were all tomboys, there are things we often did with my friends that left a permanent imprint. Like all the catwalk training. To this day, I actually have to think about how I'm walking not to fall back into that mode. On the plus side, I can walk without my heels ever hitting the ground no matter what shoes I wear. Details, but they matter more than you'd think.

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>>6080781

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>>6080789
can confirm, am still ugly

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>>6080773
I'm sorry Mado, I know that's all gotta be tough. I was encouraging her to go with you but some things are out of my control.

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>>6080783
What if my face looks male though?

>>6080784
Is Robin the poop king himself?

>>6080789
;____________;

>>6080794
why do you always have to make everyone feel bad? everyone knows you are queen of /mtfg/

>>6080796
Olrapeyface/edgar/Robin/whatever the fuck else he call himself

>>6080796
makeup and a good voice

>>6080765
idk I think they're gonna screen me for several of the major mental disorders first to narrow things down, thanks to parental neglect I've never had mental health assessments or care of any kind until this point. I think the main things are personality disorders, OCD (which likely runs in my dad's side of the family and is what is wrong with my dad and my sister) and PTSD. Also I show traits of all of the Cluster B personality disorders so my GP wasn't sure how to unpick what the exact problem is herself before the referral. I'm a red flag on legs lol... The NHS usually uses a combination of medication and therapy with CBT being optional, though.

>>6080783
That's not full time

If that was the case then I would have been full time for like 5 years.

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>>6080799
I am sowwy ;-;
I am just trying to fit in and be loved v,v

>>6080777
I know what you mean, but I think looking more inoffensive and 'attractive' by at least some "feminine" standard would reduce my anxiety around presenting as female. Given the choice, being a feminine boy is better than being a masculine man, that way at worst you feel the same as before, at best it makes you feel a little better.

>>6080796
You go full-time so that you can learn to pass, not the other way around.

>>6080789
Cures being a man pretty well.

>>6080782
;_____;
That makes me sad. Even more so because we'd both get stoned, lol

>>6080808
What's your definition of full-time then? If you're presenting as a female at all times, you're full-time.

>>6080776
Well, look at any top model or A-list actress. There are very few that don't have very distinctive features, and quite often masculine ones. They're not stereotypically pretty, and I guess some anons here would even say they don't pass. But those literally abnormal features are what puts them above the crowd looks wise.

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>>6080795
Ayy its fine I never expect anything else. Life's full of this shit.

>>6080808
Let's see...
You're presenting as female at all times in public, you're full-time.

>>6080784
there are people who are cute despite not passing
this is fact

>>6080793
ikt anglo f

>>6080818
stoned as in high or as in killed? y,y
Id be down for both tbhphqy famalam

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>>6080803
Makeup doesnt fix male features though.
Like when my skull is three times the size of a cis woman and I have a huge jaw/chin/nose just makeup doesn't help.

>tfw mom wants to buy me clothes and shit so I can go fulltime but doesn't realize how manly I am

>>6080801
Absolutely feminine!

>>6080818
Going outside while looking like a total hon just seems like a bad idea and not even passing to strangers on the street would be horrible.

>>6080804
Just today I had my assessment and I'm going to be getting CBT from the NHS, from what they describe it might be what finally helps me.
I tried medication before and just sedating myself with all kinds of drugs. It doesn't fix anything just blankets the problem.

Anyway I hope you do get the help you need cause you're alright.

too much work.
Hrt won't make me pass. My body is fucked. My voice will never pass. I'm too retarded to train it. I'll will never work.

Suicide it is.

>>6080823
>there are people who are cute despite not passing

And your not one of them, now fuck off.

>>6080823
Post pic :-)

>>6080832
jesus tapdancing christ
I dont get why folks are always trying to beat robin down at every opportunity?

>>6080838

Trip on Noel.

>>6080831

>too much work.

Nothing in life that is good does not come without work.

>Hrt won't make me pass

Difficult to say.

>My body is fucked

Subjective, over scrutinized view of self

>My voice will never pass. I'm too retarded to train it

With that attitude, yeah. Nothing that is good comes without work.

>Suicide it is.

:[ no

>>6080828
>implying Swedes will attack nonpassing trannies
Lain pls.
>not even passing to strangers on the street would be horrible
Every tranny has to deal with it at some point

>>6080825
S-same
Actually I'm not even sure which one Canadians would do. People here generally dislike anything with swastikas, but they may try to get you stoned to chill you out cuz it's Canada. I'd also be down for both :'D

>>6080748
thats just how unreasonably long the waiting list is for an appointment
im also mid twenties and i started hormones a few weeks ago

>>6080781
you know it

>>6080840
Kiss my arse

>>6080818
>You go full-time so that you can learn to pass, not the other way around.
strawpoll.me/10046429
strawpoll.me/10046429
strawpoll.me/10046429

>>6080818
>>6080822

That's not what you said. Putting on female clothes outside alone isn't full time. Voice, name change and dressing is full time.

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>>6080821
she would have been much better off with you than her

emotionally abusive cunt that she is

>>6080819
I understand that there's such a thing as unconventionally attractive, but there's a limit, isn't there? Me going fulltime as I am now would be an utter disaster for me and for those around me.

>>6080825
>Id be down for both
>>6080843
>I'd also be down for both :'D

I want to hug you both.

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>>6080843
>>6080818
>either of you getting stoned to death
what the heck not on my watch

>>6080828
Well, when a hon grabs your eye in a bad way in the street, it's not their face that does it, it's the clothes first. Dress tastefully or just go normie casual, and you've solved most of the problem. Plenty of cis girls have excessively masculine features and nobody would call them Sir. Dressing like a cheap whore, a tween or a 50s housewife is a great way to get tagged as a crossdresser.

>>6080832
Wait what
I think you misunderstood, I'm fucking repulsive, I never implied otherwise, I meant there are OTHER people who are that way and I wish I was one of them

>>6080851
I'm oversimplifying. Lain needs baby steps.

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>>6080852
She isn't with her as far as I know but what the fuck do I know

>>6080866
Take a guess why neither of them have posted for at least a week.

>>6080842
STOP FUCKING HUGBOXING

I got a new job and last night a coworker referred to me as she in front of a bunch of others. When I heard her I looked at everyones reaction and they were okay with it. Also the girls are a little more open with me and they're really making me feel like maybe I could be a friend to someone. Strange week indeed.

>>6080845
>>6080845
>>6080845

Right, all you American trips, bear witness to this. I'm not fucking exagerrating when I say how bad the situation is here, for all young people as well as even moreso for mentally ill, trans and/or disabled people. I don't want anyone saying I'm just making excuses when our infrastructure is like this atm.

>>6080850
>Yes (because all of the above)
Would be my response.

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>>6080843
>implying there arent more immigrants in the area where I live than swedes
Also I don't mind people like finding out im trans or anything but when people can see it I do mind ;_;
I don't want people to give me more looks than they already do for being so manly and stuff.

>>6080861
I've only ever seen one other hon irl and it was at my trans clinic thingy, everyone else was a 12 year old looking ftm.
>tfw the ftm's gave me looks
admiring my manly genes tbhon

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>>6080869
I know senpai but they did nothing but shop and fight. But I'm probably just a retard

>>6080859
>>6080825
I'm bad at replying just stone my shit up

you people better not hugbox me
I really need facial surgery

>look at myself in the mirror sideways
>realize I'm a fucking landwhale
time to lose some weight senpaitachi

>>6080873
Literally just fuck off and die. Only pretty people should be trans. Ugly fucks like you ruin it for the rest of us. All ugly boys who think you are trans. Just fuck off and go ruin your own gender.

>>6080882
*hugboxes*

>>6080861
>tfw you try to dress as normie as possible and it gets you screamed at angrily by lots of people in the thread because it looks so bad apparently
being an actual sperg sucks, The Big Bang Theory makes it seem a lot funnier than it is IRL :/ I wish I could dress myself, last year one night we were going out for dinner as a family and when I got dressed my mum started actually crying because "you look so terrible, why would you dress like that?? I only want you to look nice for us" etc.

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>>6080882
*hugboxes*
wot u gonna do? stab me?

>>6080873
I know how shit it is there, and make sure to lambaste the NHS at every opportunity, and urge all brits to self-med while waiting. Glad to be here where it's closer to ten months. Sad not to be in America because Informed Consent is such an efficient model ;~;
Glad not to be in America because surgery for free with Brassard.

>>6080883
You're just now reliazing this. Christ.

>>6080876
I've never seen a single tranny. Crossdresser, hon or even gay person in my life.

Googling "my area and trans" literally comes up with unrelated shit like transistors or trans Atlantic pipeline articles

I am never transitioning.

>>6080901
Kek

>>6080882
No, you don't, although it'll let you look prettier more effortlessly, and in intimate interactions.

I also don't need FFS. Doesn't mean I'm not going to fucking get it. I'm vain, after all.

>>6080903
be a pioneer

>>6080871

How the fuck is it hugboxing? Anon didn't post a picture. Anon wants to kill herself. We are the most critical of our self. I've heard beautiful people say the same god damn shit about them.

And yeah, it's completely true that you will not ever get a good passing voice if you don't work at it. How the fuck is that hug boxing?

>>6080896
Well, from the pictures I've seen, trying to dress like Kurt Cobain is definitely not going to help, yeah... Maybe you should let your mother pick clothes for you, no shame in that, nobody has to know. And it will help you find out what looks good on you. Sadly enough, that's something I have to do for my mother. She's a slightly autistic hick with absolutely not a shred of taste. I guess that she'll get bored enough in Bangkok that I'll manage to teach her make-up basics at last.

>>6080909
i want to look prettier in intimate interactions!
I'm always being fucked!

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>>6080903
I have to drive 90 minutes to get to the closest trans clinic and stuff, there's none here because lol no trannies probably.
Seeing that other hon made me realize even people who transition in like their 40s pass better than I ever will tho ;_;

>tfw no tranny friend to hugbox me and drag me outside when it's dark so people can't bully me for looking like a man
;A;

>>6080911
Anything positive is hugboxing
didnt you know?
you have be an echochamber for your friends internal sabotaging voice

Tell them they're ugly
tell them they'll never look like a girl
thats the right thing to do i guess

>>6080911
Some people just commit suicide and will never be happy. Accept it. Let them die

>>6080883
You're JUST figuring that out?
You look like a boy too lol

>>6080916
>dress like Kurt Cobain
what does that even mean, idgi, a couple of people have said that to me? fuck

also I'm not out to my mum so that's not an option

>>6080903
Think about it another way, no trans people around means people won't even think you could be one...

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>>6080924
Sounds pretty cozy

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why are anons so retarded today?

>>6080930
someone says that every fucking day bugger off

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>Want to tell a boy he's cute

>don't want to spaghetti my wanna-be tranny beans everywhere but i really want to start transitioning

advice!?

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>>6080930
They always are. You get used to it. Some even have anon filters apparently.
>>6080934
Talk to him and bring up that you'll be transitioning when the time comes?

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>>6080930
because mtfg is shit so who even cares anymore

>>6080933
that someone is me.

>>6080917
Yeah. That's a thing I want too, but let's not pretend neither of us can pass without, nor indeed most people in this thread.

We all want to be good looking, but not having perfect features and proportions shouldn't be generating all the misery in this thread.

>>6080926
Beanie cap, shapeless, grimy-looking oversized clothes, torn jeans. The whole 90s tryhard guy package, you know...

>>6080943
You're not someone who should be giving fashion advice

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>>6080541
It's more than on the wider side.
I literally could play in the nfl with this kind of body. Being 5'9 is a killer
My hips are 37", they need to be 41" to offset my 41" shoulder circumference
Plus my rib cage is huge.


>>6080552
Well the truth is often brutal and if they can't accept that, then they should be your friends

>>6080952
get out

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good morning.

fact about me:
i waste a lot of time making stupidly artsy snapchat selfies