/mascgen/ Spring Bears Edition

>>5943024
>Zeemaps:
https://zeemaps.com/map?group=1904853

>>5943024
What are some ways to be more masc if you're naturally not hairy?

We're talking blond, little to no body hair, dark pits and pubes and invisible pedostache.

>>5943049


No one in the north american west

>>5943230
I mean I am but never posted that stuff here.

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>>5943226
Do you work out? It can help, something about it increasing your testosterone levels.

But if you are blond, then there's not much you can do. I'm blond-ish too, and I only have hair from the waist down, and it is blond-ish as well, even my pubes.

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>>5943226
Make due with what you have. If you can't grow a beard, keep shaving it off.

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>>5943226
Omg shut the fuck up

Moving to Chicago, hopefully can find a bear there.

>>5943368
AnnSkellington from gaygen lives there

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>>5943226
>invisible pedostache
OUCH

Just get big and beefy.

>>5943397
>wanting to fuck a known user here

Why not just dip my dick into a barrel of AIDs and save myself the bother

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>>5943368
I'm friends with a handsome muscle bear from Chicago. We met when he was on vacation here last november. No lewd stuff between us, though, because he's married, but apparently there are plenty of bears there.

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Whelp, I just platinum'd Bloodborne.

What a fantastic game. Chalice Dungeons are bullshit though. Now to just await Dark Souls 3. 13 days!

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what are you guys listening to right now?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAJCUGD6FtM

>>5943526

Kek.

>>5943438

This is what I think I'll do (not the original guy who posted). I get a few hairs everyday and use an electric razor to shave them off but manually shaving them is time-consuming. Hopefully I'll end up with something decent in a year or so. I think my lack of exercise has been the main reason for my low testosterone levels forever, but I'll see a doctor once I graduate this year. And find a summer job so I can get a PT and gym membership.

> inb4 you don't need a PT

>>5943975

https://youtu.be/ltncvWS-vIw

>>5943024
I keep getting mistaken for a girl. Any way to seem more manly without bulking out/changing clothes/cutting hair?

Bulking out ain't gonna happen, because I don't have the genes for it.
Changing clothes isn't an option, because it only happens in my work uniform.
And I'm not cutting my hair. No way in hell. I LIKE my long glorious natural curls.

>>5944816
Most PTs are idiots. It takes minimal work to get certified.. If you're going to get one, make sure they know what they're doing or it will be a waste of money.

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>>5944893
How is your posture, how is your body language, how do you move when you walk, what position are your feet in when you sit?

>>5944919
> Posture
I try to stand straight to keep my back painless, but often end up bent over stuff.

> Body language
LEAVE ME ALONE I'M BUSY, because I don't want to be badgered by idiot customers with idiot questions.

> Moving
Head up, walking with a purpose, distance-covering strides.

> Sitting
I don't sit, at work. On my feet all day every day, pretty much.

>>5944893
>>5944930
I know asking for pictures often is a joke, but this is a situation that does warrant it. We can give better advice if we do see how you look.
Also
> Bulking out ain't gonna happen, because I don't have the genes for it.
Confirmed for not making it.

>>5944984
I don't have any of me in the uniform, is the thing.

And I don't really want to post pictures of myself on 4chan either.

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>>5945005
I see your point and agree that it isn't the best idea, but then I don't know what advice to give you. Maybe growing a beard could help, I dunno.

>>5943813
I'm still so far from reaching plantinum in Bloodborne, but one day I'll reach. I'll git gud
> tfw haven't even defeated the Orphan

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>>5945032
>growing a beard

I have honestly tried. The scruff I managed to cultivate on my chin stops people doing it to my face, but it's still an issue from behind.

Pic related is my hair; you can see why I don't want to chop it. It's a bunch longer now, though; down past my shoulders.

>>5944911

> If you're going to get one, make sure they know what they're doing

How do I ascertain this?

>>5944816
>> inb4 you don't need a PT
you don't, though. if you do the right amount of reading you can get on just fine without one.

>>5944893
>Bulking out ain't gonna happen, because I don't have the genes for it.
after reading some of the other posts, it seems that this might be your only option. you can at least try.

I want a friend.

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>>5945093
well this isn't the place to look for one.

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>>5945032
Orphan of Kos is probably among the hardest single bosses they've had in any of their games so don't feel bad. I threw body after body at the bastard and eventually got good enough to memorize his attacks and finally beat him. You'll do it I believe in you.

Do you guys have a nickname for anal sex?

I call it making cookies.

>>5945104

Why not?

>>5945090

I can already envisage fucking up equipment in a gym though. I've never really worked out before either.

>>5945104
>>5945111

Actually, I managed to make a friend from here and we've been friends for about two years now, and we've met before too.

I don't have a nickname for anal though. Unless 'fucking' is one.

>>5945137

Can I be your friend too?

>>5945145

I don't see why not. What your stats and location?

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>>5945105
I actually got really good at parrying his first stage and can survive for a long time on the second, but I'm still far from freeing that fucker from this terrible hunter's dream.
Why doesn't he just accept my mercy famiglia?

>>5945111
I have one that I use amongst my friends. I just say I'm either "sinning" or "doing terrible things".
> anon, what were you doing yesterday?
> terrible things/sin

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>>5945176
His second form is balls to the walls crazy as fuck. Basically you have to get lucky and take advantage of his easily punishable moves (usually when he slams his placenta onto the ground). The dude spent decades in the womb of his mom's corpse growing old. He's literally an old man baby

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>>5945190
> tfw can't kill an old man baby
> tfw no +10 rusty hanger trick weapon to abort him while in his dead mom's uterus
> tfw he's OP and my blades of mercy thrust attacks don't get a big bonus against kin with him
> tfw that awesome kin killer gem is useless against the aborted baby
> tfw can't silence the infant's harrowing cry
Just frenzy me already

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>>5945202
Honestly, get gud and your problems will be solved. You haven't even experienced the nightmare that is the defiled chalice dungeons where you literally get one shotted by bosses with absurd amounts of health. Enjoy making it to Yharnam, the Ptumerian Queen. The path is paved with tears

>>5945212
One day I'll have the writhing Yharnam Stone on my bloodstained, cold, virtual hands.

>>5945041
Nice girly hair. Would caress/10

>>5945041
>down past my shoulders
Why do guys do this

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>>5945041
>>5944893
>And I'm not cutting my hair. No way in hell. I LIKE my long glorious natural curls.
> It's a bunch longer now, though; down past my shoulders.
> Body language
>LEAVE ME ALONE I'M BUSY, because I don't want to be badgered by idiot customers with idiot questions.
> The scruff I managed to cultivate on my chin stops people doing it to my face, but it's still an issue from behind.
The reason people think you're a girl is because of your hair is like a woman's, and since you have such an aversion to bulking I also assume you're thin which does not help your causa. And you also seem like a catty queen with that attitude, senpai.

>tfw not masc no matter how hard I try
:'(

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>>5945288
Don't worry about it and just be yourself and enjoy what you enjoy

Except if you have long hair. Cut that shit because it looks fucking awful

>>5943024
Local gym is absolute dogshit: more than one gaybashing has taken place there and the owners are completely ignoring the issue.

How do I start beefing up in my apartment, at least until I'm too scary to get beaten up in McBashie's gym?

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>>5945327
How would they find out you are gay, though?

I mean, if you live in a place where gay bashing happens and no one bats an eye, then you should be discreet anyways, for your own safety.

Else just buy gym equipment and work out at your apartment, but that can be expensive and/or take a lot of space, depending on what you do.

>>5945327
Depends on how much money you're willing to spend and on your current fitness level. But a good starting point would be a barbell, a bench and weights. I also recommend you buy a dumbbell set, but if you want to save money you can just buy a pair of dumbbell handles on which you can lock the same weights you use for the barbell. It's cheaper but disassembling and reassembling weights can consume a lot of time if you are dealing with heavier weights.
A squat rack is great too, but it uses up a lot of space and it's expensive.

>>5945315
how? i try but quickly forgets to keep it up.
>>5945316
i don't enjoy this. i talk like a faggot. i move my hands like a faggot. it's so bad that i have become really shy to even talk to people.

>>5945362
Why do you "talk like a faggot"? How and when did it start?

>>5945367
since i was a little kid. i have seen recordings of me from childhood and it's not pretty.

>>5945376
Go to a speech therapist.
> inb4 poorfag have no money boohoo :(

>>5943226
SS + Bulk

Do extra accesories for traps and arms

Clean Shave, have a Nazi style cut

Im chub/fat guy here.

Wanting to hit the gym and become swole but not sure best way to go about it.

Should I slim down first? Should I lift more instead.

Shits confusing.
>Also tfw no twink bf (anymore)

>>5945541
how fat exactly?

>>5945288

Try harder anon.
It's more than appearance, it's a behaviour.
Behaviour can be learnt.
But don't let it overshadow your personality (what defines you as you).

>>5945541

See: >>5945545

What's your height:weight ratio?

>>5945545
>>5945557
Fatfat. Mantits and a big old belly. 6ft 1" on the dot. Not sure about my weight as its been a while since ive actually weighed myself.

I have been exercising and eating well and have lost 4 inches on my waist (from 52inch to 48) but want to more so be somewhat built or builtfat rather than slim if you get what i mean.

I understand its going to take a lot of time and effort but im disciplining myself to make that change and stop being a fucking fatass.

I just dont know where to begin with the bulking part. I've looked up online but there seems to be a million different methodologies.

>>5945565
Based on what you said I would focus on cutting, not bulking. Fix your diet so you are in a caloric deficit. At the same time, start going to the gym. Lift and do cardio.
Your muscle gains will be slow because of your cut but you'll lose weight and keep your muscle mass, or you might even get some because of noob gains.
Make changes to your diet as necessary and go on a clean bulk once you hit your desired bodyweight.

>>5943368
Not a bear but down to hangout in Chicago when you move.

>>5945565

Pics or get out.
Lel.

I think it would be easier to focus on losing weight first, and so the best thing you can do, rather than accessing a gym, is to focus on cardio - running in your local area is entirely free and will introduce your body to exercise. This may be beneficial if it hasn't been part of your daily or weekly routine. On top of that, you must have a strict diet, which means eating only the right foods (cut out as much saturated fats, sugars, salts, etc. as possible) and drinking plenty of water. Eat at a deficit - if you're not in the mood to count calories, then I'd suggest doing this:

Breakfast (everyday) - porridge with a chopped banana (preferably almond or oat milk) and any other fruit, but nothing more than a cup (use a mug) of oats. If the milk is pricey, half the amount with water. Either this, or some muesli with almond milk.

If you can have it for brunch, then do it. If not, limit yourself to a salad, or something like soup (e.g. vegetable soup, leak and potato, carrot and coriander (cilantro in the US)), etc.

For dinner, more vegetables and some protein (preferably fish, but not daily). Use this as an opportunity to almost learn how to budget effectively and save your money - put change in jars/bags and cash them in at the end of the year.

For snacks, eat almonds, fruit/veg, or cashews. There are other good nuts, but try to avoid peanuts as they're high in calories and they're better for bulking - your key here is to lose weight. It's essential that you drink water when you're hungry between meals. Don't go for snacks first. You must teach your diet.

Lastly, if you have time then I'd suggest doing bodyweight exercises at home, things like planking, push ups, pull ups, and bicep curls (good idea to maybe invest in a bar and dummbells if you have the money). To me, it's a good idea to do this as part of your preparation in getting fit, prior to accessing a gym (save money in the long term). You must commit. You can do it.

>>5945594
>>5945622
Thanks. I've already been calorie counting and usually ending the day with 800-1000 calories consumed.

I've been exercising too with a rowing machine and one of those chest expander things. Actually been quite enjoying it and noticing my ability to do more/go for longer is a good motivator.

Its all taken a bit of a setback as a recent breakup has hit me like a truck and has me eating takeouts and not exercising again like a fucking scrub but that stage is over and im wanting to double down and fucking do this. Thanks for the advice.

>>5945739

Don't go below 800, and don't go above 1500. 2000-2500 is usually recommended as the average daily allowance, so as long as you stick to 800-1500, you should be losing weight.

Sorry to hear about the breakup dude. They're not easy, just remember your goals and ambitions, and surround yourself with family and friends. Stay strong, you're going to make it. I wish you all the best.

>>5945803
Thank you gaynon

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>>5945882

bianon* Kek :^)

>>5945739
>I've already been calorie counting and usually ending the day with 800-1000 calories consumed.
>that stage is over and im wanting to double down and fucking do this
You are gonna make it brah

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How does /mascgen/ feel about cardio?

What would you recommend? I'm taking up rowing, cuz I have a fucked up knee and can't run for long at once.

>>5946084
Cardio is good for you.

I don't do much cardio though, because I already have enough trouble gaining weight as it is. But I go for a run every other morning.

I never got that 'runners high' though. I still hate it as much as the first day, but oh well.

>>5946100
nice dubs.

I asked the question badly. What I meant was, what would be a good supplement to my lifting? I do three days a week of weights, two off-days where I have a TRX routine that I want to supplement.

Otherwise, i bike about an hour every day.

>>5946084
>>5946100
I get hurt extremely easily when I run, so I avoid it at all costs. Instead, I go for the elliptical or, recently, for the stairs machine. I also started going on long distance walks (12km+) but it's conditioning for something very specific.
Still, I try not to mix intense cardio with lifting. I either do light cardio as a warm up or intense if it's a day dedicated to it.

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>>5946084
Cardio kills gains

>mfw masc
>regularly get checked out by gays

Feels good man

>>5946277
how so?

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>>5946407
>not knowing cardio kills gains meme from /fit/

>>5946425
Of course I know the meme, sperglord, but I am genuinely interested in the reasoning behind and if there's anything to it.

>>5946448

There isn't any, that's why it's a meme.

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>>5946448
Physically if your body burns off a lot of calories without sufficient source of carbohydrates the body starts to eat away at your muscles; which are basically protein reserves. The body then converts the protein/muscle tissue into carbohydrates where in turn the muscle mass decreases and energy output increases. The only reason this would ever happen is if someone only did cardio extensively without building muscle. If you ever see pictures of long distance runners they are usually people with near to low muscle mass. Your body can only convert so much for one task. Endurance is gained but at a cost. Cardio will not lower muscle mass in a short period, but extensive cardio will.

Reserve depletion:
>fat reserves is the first to go
>then muscle reserves
If there's no fat or input of energy muscle mass is depleted.

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>>5946479
>>5946448

>>5946448
>Of course I know the meme

oh yeah well I know all the memes get at me you fucking nerd

How long to reach bearmode natty?

Currently on SS, gonna hop onto TM after.

>>5946532
I guess it depends on where you started and what body fat percentage you are thinking of when you say bearmode. Post pics

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>>5946559
This but added hair.

Ain't got any pics of me, but I'm basically average 18yo male, wide shoulders, 17%ish bodyfat, with almost all intermediate lifts.

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>>5946500
Fuckin aspie fucks making like oldfags. Is it summer already?

>>5946479
Huh, that actually makes an awful lot of sense. I'm def gaining muscle, but would still like to burn off some of the excess fat (especially that stubborn shit on my sides), so I guess I'm exercising about right.

>>5946475
I kinda figured it was something like that, but thanks for confirming it.

>>5946586
Lad you can't burn fat and gain muscle at the same time. Read the /fit/ sticky.

seeing my ex properly for the first time in months. We broke up like 2 years ago due to distance but still talk nearly everyday.

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> be the anon from a few weeks ago whose cat died
> have been working out rigorously since mid-2015, but only got visible gains around december
> mother and father, upon seeing me, think I'm roiding
> I'm not, I'm just getting noob gains and I'm a true natty, disciple of scooby
> mother starts believing me, father doesn't
> two days ago, on monday, my father tells me he's decided to divorce my mother
> he hadn't told her yet, so after we talked about it we quietly sat on the living room waiting for her to come home
> she cried a lot, and after my father left I spent the night consoling her
> she slips up and tells me that my father took testosterone to try and treat his "erectile dysfunction"
> didn't work because it's not erectile dysfunction, he just can't get it up for some deeper psychological reason he won't tell us
> he most likely convinced a friend of his to prescribe him test, so the legality of it all is very questionable
> tfw my father has been accusing me of roiding for the past 4 months but he was the roider instead
> tfw my father gave me so much shit for being gay but, now that I know about his dead bedroom, I'm suspecting he's also gay
> tfw am become more masc than father
> still missing my kitter though
Please someone just free me from this terrible hunter's dream

>no amount of lifting will put more hair on your chest
Just

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>>5947355

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>>5947355
>Freudian field day.txt
Don't worry, anon. You will be able to live a life of self-acceptance and fulfillment.

Also you're swole so you're basically top-tier among the gay community (as long as you're whitish)

>>5947444
> them trips
Hopefully your trips are filled with wisdom. I still haven't made it, though, and I have a long way to go.
Also, fun fact. The person who injected my father with test was... My brother. And today he told me he was very tempted to use the remaining test to roid. He didn't use it but I know now that he wants to, so I guess this makes me the nattiest man in the family while still being the swolest.

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>>5947503
Be proud of your accomplishments and focus on that rather than your family, I guess. Also if you're natty go get laid it shouldn't be difficult

>>5947516
I would be hooking up a lot this week if only I weren't dealing with all the divorce stuff. I just created an account on Hornet and I discovered only the swolest guys use it here... And they're all bottoms and I'm one of the very few tops.
So I guess my parent's divorce is cockblocking me. That won't last long, though.

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>>5947571
Is hornet any better or different than any of the other thousand gay dating apps? I feel like every gay app starts out trying to forge real, human connections but then end up decaying into a wasteland of non-committal "looking" men

>>5947608
I believe the difference in the public they cater to. At least here if you use Grindr you'll find guys more on the twink-ish body type. Scruff has some older, fatter and hairier guys (not necessarily all three things at the same time, by the way). Hornet has a more gym-going crowd from a very diverse range of ages. Tinder and Happn are absolute trash.

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>>5947619
It's just depressing downloading a new app and seeing "Oh, it's all the same people on all the other apps

Also searching it on the app store pulled up a litany of hilarious duplicate apps:
>Surge
>GuySpy
>GayPark
>VGL
>Mr. X
>Gay Connections
>Gay.com
>Atraf
>BoyAhoy
There is no way of stopping it.

>>5947632
Still, I sometimes think that seeing these same people in different apps can be a quite forgiving experience. Guys you might have rejected months before might look better now or have gotten their shit together. And you might be given second chances you wouldn't have if you kept yourself to one app.

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>>5947656
Yeah. To be fair I don't really put much effort into apps nowadays. I mostly just launch them in the same 6 apps I regularly check when I'm bored to see if there's any activity.

That said every time I open a new app I see literally the most nightmare man I've ever seen on every app and immediately have to block him because just looking at him is disgusting

>>5947674
>most nightmare man I've ever seen on every app
I know the feel. There's this chubby femme guys who's a pathological liar hated by everyone and he's on every fucking app. And if I don't block him before he notices me he'll try to talk to me simultaneously on the app and on facebook

>>5947355
what is your name tho? i feel like i might know u

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>>5947717
No this guy is literally the most physically repulsive looking person I've ever met. You know those gauge things that hipsters wear to expand their earlobes? Yeah, he has that on both of his ears and a giant one through his bottom lip. He's shaved his hair and eyebrows and his entire face is covered with spider web tattoos. I've never talked to him but just looking at him is disgusting and I used to live in the same building as him and once I found that out I immediately decided that I needed to move.

Sorry about the colorful descriptions but I just saw him on hornet and had to block him again.

>>5945173

I'm in Manteca, California. What stats do you mean?

>>5945187

Haha, I like the "doing terrible things" one.

>>5947749
Gee anon I sure want you to be sure of who I am, just in case you want to talk with me about my family problems.
So, instead of me saying my name, why don't you say who you think I am?

>>5947753
You win. Your nightmare wins.

>>5948027
rafael from rosario, argentina

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So, since we're talking about apps, I had decided to stop bothering with them because it was just a waste of time. But I left Growlr installed because today I went back to class, and my college is in the next city, so maybe some more interesting guys might appear.

Now I'm flipping my shit because I've spent the last 4 hours chatting with pretty much the perfect guy for me (at first glance).

It sounds too good to be true.

>inb4 he wants to steal my kidneys

>>5947632
Goddamn this is my fucking goal body
My biggest fear is that ill be stuck in ottermode forever

>>5946595
Stupid.

It's difficult to burn fat and gain muscle at the same time because to do so requires that you meet your macros perfectly while also maintaining a caloric balance or a mild deficit/surplus, depending on your muscle:fat ratio.

It's prohibitively difficult because calories aren't actually an exact science, but it's possible, especially if you do cardio or other athletic sports like soccer or basketball. It's why athletes can get big but still look cut - their cardio and weightlifting comes out relatively even with their weight and food intake just because of the amounts in question.

Now it is close to impossible to burn fat and build muscle OPTIMALLY, for both the muscle and the fat. That's why you bulk/cut - you want MAXIMUM hypertrophy, not just growth, then shed the extra weight as quickly as possible so you can go back to maximum hypertrophy.

So that's why they say toning is a myth. But playing sports will definitely help you burn fat and gain muscle at the same time.

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>>5948545
don't let your dreams be dreams.

>>5948824

I'm not gay but I'd like to squeeze his arms.

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>>5949037
what else would you like to do?

>>5947355

Stay strong anon. You got this.
/mascgen/ is here for you.

>>5947405

Iktf bro.

>>5948000

Trips confirmed.
Stats like age, height, weight, etc.
CA looks cool. I've always wanted to visit the West Coast of the US, mostly for the nature.

>>5948325

The guy you were talking to, he's on the app, or was this in person? I have Growlr and I actually find it to be a pretty good app. I had a guy from the US fly over. Another was going to but I think I'm going to take a miss on that one, he seems a little crazy. One wants to fly over to see me, and another wants to fly me to Wisconsin - anyone US anons able to tell me much about WI?

>>5948181
Nope. Not me. By the way, are you one of the anons from Buenos Aires?

>>5946100
>I never got that 'runners high' though. I still hate it as much as the first day, but oh well.

Generally whenever I go to the gym or do any form of cardio, I think to myself "wow, my body really hurts, why the fuck am I doing this to myself." Eventually I just kind of become numb and don't think it's too bad, and then leave feeling pretty good.

>>5946121
>I either do light cardio as a warm up or intense if it's a day dedicated to it.
Me too. It's probably the best way to go about doing it. Once a week I do an hour+ of outdoor cycling, spin biking, running or swimming. It's pretty great.

>>5949057

I'm 24, 6'1", and 165 pounds.

I like places in California with lots of pine trees. Theye are my favorite kind of tree.

>>5952462

Ah, and why do you not have any friends? Did you go to college? Do you work? Any work colleagues that you like? Friends from High School? Neighbourhood friends?

I've heard the nature in CA is beautiful. I want to visit.

Just had my amazon wishlist mysteriously bought out by someone. I have no idea who did it so I don't know who to thank...

I thought sugar daddies were supposed to want appreciation in return! :X

>>5953915
You're welcome, bby.

>>5949057
>The guy you were talking to, he's on the app, or was this in person?

He's from growlr. We went out yesterday and it was fucking amazing. I can hardly believe it.

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>tfw april's fools
>can't reply to anyone on mascgen

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>>5954963
>that gif
why can't you reply to anyone?

>>5954972
mascgen's unspoken rules of not replying to name/tripfags

(I'm joking, though. Making it clear because I know someone will get butthurt about it)

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>>5955151
There iS no hurt in my butt over this aPril fools joke.

Pretty amusing actually.

>>5955166
I'm quite impressed with how far they took this. kek/10

>>5954001
>>5953915

Bobby bought Bobby a present...What is this madness?

>>5954963

That ass.
Roger, please, my dick can only get so hard.

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Why are bald men almost always smokin hotties?

>>5955688
sauce?

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>>5955693
Dunno. I've only found a second gif of the same scene.

>>5955753
The guys name is Yuri, its from a movie called built to fuck made by Paul Morris, the guy that makes poz-porn. Its a black guy fucking Yuri in that gif.

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>>5955798
>having sex with black people

>>5957167
yeah I know...

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>>5957167
You shut your whore mouth right now.

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>>5957190

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>>5957190
>posting black people

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>>5957207
>posting my husbando

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What's your guys' opinion on back hair?
Personally I find it hot af but I'm weird

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>>5957994

>>5957994
I dont find it weird at all, it's hot and manly.

>>5957994
Depends on the guy. I find it a bit weird looking on that guy you posted

But I think it is because he's sort of slim, and I'm more into thicker looking guys.

>>5958147
I want to be one of those built muscly hairy guys

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>tfw Trump will never run for chancellor here in Germany

Feels bad man

>>5958066
Fuuuck i want a guy like that

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>>5958332

Guys I have an important question for you.

How do you tell if a guy has a strong strain ?

Asking because I've been with a few poz guys in these last few weeks but according to the doc I'm still clean(ugh). My immunity system is probably really strong and all these guys had weak as fuck beta strains and it's really getting on my nerves. Like what's even the point of being bred by a poz hottie when you don't even get to experience the gift afterwards.

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>>5958671

>>5958689
>tfw no cheeky kittybro ;_;

>>5958689
My cat always does that

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>>5959841
>tfw 23
>still a kv
>still no bf in sight
>at least trump will MAGA
>mfw even though it won't affect me

Also
>dat webm
Hnnnng

>>5953454
>Ah, and why do you not have any friends?

I don't know. It's hard.

>Did you go to college?

No.

>Do you work?

No. I'm ready to drive for Uber, but I'm waiting for my neck pain to go away. I'm taking personal training sessions to help with my gait.

>Any work colleagues that you like?

No, I don't have colleagues.

>Friends from High School?

No. The last friend I had was in 4th or 5th grade. I don't remember his last name. I don't think I ever knew it.

>Neighbourhood friends?

No.

>meet literal 9/10 guy at a club
>has his own business and seems sane
>text him a bit, seems nice. Pretty excited that hes decent
>he's just messaged me now, high, trying to get me to come over, do Tina and fuck bb.

What a cruel twist of fate.

>>5962738
>owns business

that's what you get for being interested in bourgeois scum and thinking you can meet decent people at a club hahah. get fucked

>>5962782
Alright, someone's a bit salty that their social life consists of Magic the gathering meets up in their basement.

>>5962819
this would offend me if it were true

>>5962836
Meh, I'm not here to start drama.

>>5962849
wanna fuck? :D

>>5962869

okay :-)

http://imgur.com/utfz1YZ

>>5962903
nice chair, where did you get it?

>>5962911

ur dad's house

>>5943226
blond are delicious when they become masco gen

>>5963083
*if

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What is your ideal job? Is it masculine? or exciting? Is it boring? If so why are you interested in it?

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>>5963376
If I had a lot of money my ideal job would be to own my own plant nursery, but working in a nursery is what I prefer. I don't like the customer aspect of the job since nearly everyone who comes in for a plant/tree is a dumb fuck retard who don't know shit about plants, but swear they know everything, but for the most part I love being around plants and sharing my knowledge about plants to people. I don't like how I'm a salesman, but I suppose beggars can't be choosers. At least I'm working with plants which I care about passionately.

>tfw not gay but want to be pounded so badly

>>5943243
If this is really you. You are super fing cute

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>>5963472
>posts picture of porn star
>thinks it's really him

>>5963487
>porn star
>skinnyfat uggo
Not all of us are degenerates, m8. That guy looks like everyone else.

>>5963490
He didn't use to look like that. He actually has done porn and he was thin, he let himself go and now he posts instagram photos of his skinnyfat body.

>>5963505
..that's.. even more degenerate. Why would anyone save his pics? Bad taste? Hoarding issues?

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So I had a dream where one of my friends kissed me, and I was completely overjoyed. I realised I do have feelings for him, and that I would do pretty much anything to make him happy. We kissed some more, played some vidya, and then I woke up.
The full weight of reality hit me, and I was alone. There's no possible way he could ever feel the same way about me, and the last thing I want to do is ruin the friendship we have by confessing to him, but this dream has sent me hurtling back into depression

Anyone have any advice?

>>5964272
Are there no way he could return your feelings? Is he straight?

>>5964482
That, and he has a girlfriend he wants to marry some day
To make things worse, his gf cheats on him whenever she goes out because they have a long distance thing going, but he's so sweet and gentle I know it'll destroy him if he finds out


Honestly about the straight thing though, he was raised in a very christian household, and whenever I ask for people's opinions on guys on tinder or something he says "I dunno really I'm not into guys" whereas my other guy friends say "yeah, he looks hot"
And when people were asking me at a party weather I'm top or bottom in bed and I said I was a top, he said "yeah, I thought so" meaning HE'S THOUGHT ABOUT ME IN BED??
But I'm probably just reading into it far too much

>>5964522
I've been in this position before, and please please please trust me when I say it NEVER works out well. If he is straight, then he is straight, and you should let it be, rather than try and pry for any kind of 'ooh he might be gay because etc.', you should just accept that he is straight, and as difficult as it is, try to move on.

This basically happened with my friend, who was always miserable and I wanted nothing more than to make him happy, and be in a relationship with him. He eventually got a girlfriend (who was really nice and I have nothing against) but I was always angry and jealous and it just put a huge strain on our friendship, to the point where we very very nearly just outright stopped being friends. We're still pals now and it's all in the past but TRUST me when I say that it's not an easy route. Please take my advice when I say to try to move on, just because I don't like the thought of other people being in the same situation I was.

>>5964272
I wish I could have cute dreams. I never have cute kissing or anything. Just slight nightmares that I never wake up from, or weird ass fucking dreams.
I want to kiss someone.
Is it nice to kiss someone you like? I don't understand. Does it really feel electric?

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>hear horror stories about low sex drive partners
>Finally start dating a guy
>His horn levels are actually higher than mine
Good for me but now I hope he's feeling satisfied. He wants to cuddle and be lewd whenever I visit and I'd rather play videogames together. Part of it is because I had occasional hookups but was starving for social interaction while he had regular friends to hang with but was sex free for months.

Anyone dealt with something like this?

>>5964563
Trust me, I know it'll never work, I even like his girlfriend, she funny even if she's the exact opposite of him. We're gay dude, we have a greater handle on our emotions than most other people due to hiding them for half of our lives
>>5964566
At least nightmares end when you wake up. These dreams colour your outlook for the rest of the day, make you miserable even after you wake up

But kissing is great, it's wonderful to be reassured that someone feels the same as you do about them

>>5964590
Cute. I'm gonna graduate high school this year.

I shouldn't get Grindr, should I?
I'd like to meet people but there is no LGBT group in my area, youth or adult. No gay bars either.

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>>5964570
I do this stupid thing where if someone likes me a lot I tend to find them less attractive. It's actually retarded and probably has some self-loathing packed into it because I subconsciously think whoever would like me probably has bad taste :/

>>5964610
Nah, you really shouldn't. Try and meet guys through friends rather than picking up strangers

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>>5964610
Grindr is what you make it out to be. I've made all my gay friends either through Grindr or people I've met through Grindr.

Yeah there are shitty people on there but it's the internet, what do you expect

>>5964590
>We're gay dude, we have a greater handle on our emotions than most other people due to hiding them for half of our lives

True, I mean was only 16 at the time but it still fucked me up to no end. At least you know it's never gonna work... I'm pretty sure I read in /hm/ or something about some guy in the same situation as you but he was convinced his straight friend was gay.

>>5964648
Teenage years are the worst, too many hormones running around wreaking havoc
When I was 14 I was head over heels for this guy who I idolised in every way, and he wouldn't even look at me twice. He was shallow and snobbish but he was hot, so I convinced myself it was just an act and that he was really this sweet guy underneath. Over the next few years I worked out he wasn't, so I moved on. It was painful, but I did it eventually.
I know I'll find some geeky awkward guy who's way too enthusiastic about nerd stuff to fall in love with properly one day

>>5964624
>>5964619

Still don't know where I'm gonna go to college, but in thinking either Burlington, VT, or somewhere in MA
How's the gay life in VT and Amherst and Boston and Worcester?

>>5964689
I have no idea, I go to uni in London

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>>5964624
I want to motorboat that ass

>>5964689
I unno. Generally bigger cities are better for meeting more gay dudes because there's generally just more people and they tend to be more liberal.

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Okay guys, I'm a little worried

So one of my friend's kids has started treating me like one of his friends, where he spams me with invites to games online, always takes the seat next to me when we all go out and talks to me non stop
Recently I found out that he has a sims game
And that he's made me a character in it

The kid's 13 and impressionable, but I remember what I did on the sims when I was his age, and can't help but be worried

Very worried.

>>5964777

He clearly wants to fug

Make his dreams come true, anon. When I was that age I would have done anything for the older guys I liked to fuck the shit out of me

>>5964851
what people want and what they need are different things.

>>5964866

I needed the cock badly, I would have been much happier as a child and as an adult if my wish for cock was just granted. There's nothing helpful about being sexually frustrated and bitter and depressed your entire life

>>5964878
If that's your personality you would've just found something else to be bitter and depressed about. Advocating someone fuck their friends 13 year old son is all sorts of bad advice.

>>5964892

If you say so normie scum. There's nothing wrong with manboylove and it's beneficial for both parties

>>5964851
"No"
HE IS LITERALLY A CHILD
I AM SCARED OF BEING AROUND HIM NOW

>>5964921

13 is no child

>>5964927
20 is still a child.

>>5964927
It really is

>>5964967

20 is no child

>>5964968

13 is a teenager, 13 year olds can rape and murder people and are tried as adults, you are more than capable of consenting to sex at 13. I lost my virginity when I was 11 to 20 year old I mate in an AOL dialup chatroom and I regret nothing

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>>5965005

>>5964927
Pedos plz leave

>>5965005
Anyone under the age of 25 isn't even sexually attractive in my eyes. I don't get how anyone can see an 11 year old and be sexually excited. That is some fucked up shit.

>>5965061

Looks like feminism has done quite a number on you

>>5965183
Don't like age difference, never did even as a kid. Has nothing do to with feminism.

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>>5965183

>>5964687
Oh yeah, totally. There is this other guy I had (and still do, really) have a light and playful crush on. The good sort. Basically he's a stereotypical jock, amazing bara body and is pretty much sweet and friendly to everyone, sometimes a little too friendly because even his pals joke he's gay. We're friends and I sit next to him in one of my classes, and I enjoy crushing on him, because there's pretty much 0 emotional investment. If it turns out he's gay and he's (very surprisingly) interested in me, great! If he's straight, which I'm 100% sure he is, then ah well. That's probably the best sort of crush you can have.

>>5964566
>Is it nice to kiss someone you like? I don't understand. Does it really feel electric?

It does. Especially the first time you kiss them. It's like a bomb of happiness exploding inside of you.

>>5965321
>It's like a bomb of happiness exploding inside of you
this is pretty accurate, when you actually love that person it's even better.

which one of you mascfags is gonna apply to be a janitor and be the hero that /lgbt/ needs

Have you guys ever had to cut off toxic people?
I have this one friend who is failing out of college. They don't work at all. At all. No grades. Just 0. Keeps saying that they'll say they're suicidal and the school won't kick them out.
Keeps complaining that they're tired and that I should do stuff for them cause they're too tired. I've gone 3 days with 2 hours a night.
If I bring coffee to class they'll hit me cause I didn't bring them one. Or at least, they used to hit me.
Keeps saying I should give them money or buy them things. Told them to get a job. They said no. They don't want to work.

I've been depressed and suicidal too but damn, I don't ever remember being such a parasite to other people.

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>>5963376
I want to do something to defend human rights and shit. I'm well on my way towards achieving this career.

>>5964566
Yesterday I had a dream. I was in my room, it was dark because the windows and door were closed, and I heard a slight scratching sound. Then a few mewls, and it was my cat meowing to wake me up so she could come inside. Some time later my father opened the door and the cat got in the room and jumped on my bed. It was dark but I could just imagine her, I could see her eyes and her raised tail.
Then I woke up crying. Because I euthanised my cat some weeks ago and my parents are divorcing now.
> tfw have to be strong for parents
> tfw they both desperately need emotional support
And yes, kissing is great. Especially if there's some build-up to it and you like that person.

>>5964777
Try not to spend too much time with him alone. Be a responsible adult. If his attraction becomes too obvious, speak with his parents about it and/or have a clear, sincere talk with him about emotions and sexuality. Say you're flattered by his attraction but there's no way anything's going to happen, and that teenage years are confusing and shit but he has your support.
You don't have to and shouldn't bone him, but this doesn't forbid you from being a responsible adult and rolemodel.

>>5966528
>If I bring coffee to class they'll hit me cause I didn't bring them one.

What the fuck? No one lays their hands on you. Ever. The second that happened should have been the final straw, especially for something so innocuous.

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>>5965005
/pol/ was right, the degeneracy is real

>>5965778
If my life wasn't so confusing and chaotic right now, I would.

>>5966528
>Have you guys ever had to cut off toxic people?
Yes. Many people for a variety of reasons. Mostly related to them developing psychiatric disorders as we grew into adulthood. Bipolar, borderline, depression.
I wouldn't remain friends of this person you speak of. He/She seems very shitty.

>>5965267
>>5965019
The knowledge that there is at least one anon in this gen (and I recall there being more than one in previous threads) that plays Bloodborne makes me kinda happy.
Today I did some bullying on the Nightmare Frontier as a despicable Vileblood. I reached 99 Insight and got myself a sweet Blood Rock. Feels good feeding off the tainted blood of the Cainhurst Queen, mother of the child of blood.
> no bara bf with whom I can engage in jolly cooperation to cleanse these foul streets

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>>5967088
>Cainhurst Queen, mother of the child of blood.
kek Great Ones don't care about class when it comes to impregnating their surrogates. Iosefka was just a nurse and Arianna was literally a whore

bf dumped me for a girl... is the bi-stereotype real? Do masc top gay guys exist who just like getting blown? It's a turn off when a guy wants to blow me. I just want a big cutie to take care of; [spoiler]to take his last name and build a family with ;_;[/spoiler]

>>5964878
Man, I come to lgbt to see if I can relate to some people on this board and I see this shit. What is wrong with you perverts? Fuck me, what a time to be alive

>>5945362
I feel you brother....
Even my voice kept making fun of..

>>5967909
It gets more real the closer to 30 you get. Breeders gonna breed

I dumped my gf for a guy though, so eh.

>>5968113
More real? Like, in a bad way?

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>>5945105
>>5964570
>>5943813
>>5964777
>tfw no gamer bear bf

>>5968228
Higher chance of happening. Procreation instinct strong. Breeders start wanting to have children around 30.

Find a bi guy who hates kids and you'll reduce the risks. Or stick to fags, but I bet even some of them are into the "adoption/surrogate" shit now

>Get messaged on grindr
>"Your pics are on tumblr"

I don't even know why, there's plenty of hotties in this country, why waste your time on me? Trying to figure out who did it, they took them from hornet.

>>5968256
show pics

>>5967909
I want to believe that the stereotype is not real. I really do. But then I see my bi friends, especially bi girls, and they're everything the stereotypes say. They just never are satisfied in a relationship and are always talking about how bisexuals need to have sex frequently with men and women and they deserve an open relationship.
Last week a friend of mine was telling me about a boy she was dating. Told me the guy had dated two bisexuals and everything went to shit when they wanted an open relationship and he didn't. Then, after telling me that, she says she's afraid of telling him she's bi because he swore he would never date a bisexual again, and because she wants to have sex with girls too even in a relationship. My friend failed to see how much of a piece of shit she was by withholding this information from him.

>>5968372
Nah, someone will recognise me from them.

>>5958332
Germany is a great country. Stop deluding yourself into thinking you're the underdog rebelling against the system by posting
>muh mudslimes
>Trump 2k16
>gisi the j00
On 4chan.

>>5967909
>masc top gay guys exist who just like getting blown?
That's a pretty sweet deal.

>>5967088
Bloodborne's fucking awesome, definitely my favourite game of last year
Hunter of hunters edgelords all the way though

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>>5967909
Bisexuals are a meme. Never take one seriously. Only homos and heteros are for dating.

>>5968256
Where are you that Hornet is popular?

>>5968419
Just remember that there are bisexuals who you don't know. :P

For me, I am definitely a slut. I regularly fuck girls and boys and it's not a problem. Your 20s are a time for learning and growing as a human being and discovering your place in the world. For some people, that means relationships. Whatever, that's fine. I'm not gonna tell you how to live your life - if you want a gf or bf that's perfectly fine.

But especially when it comes to bisexuals, this is the time where you're supposed to figure out who you are and what you want, and a relationship can feel doubly stifling to us both in terms of our life goals and in terms of our sexuality. We have to worry about how you feel about us. We have to worry about "missing" the other sex (we worry about this more than you do, trust me). The opportunity cost of a relationship for a bisexual person is way higher than other peoples' and it can really get oppressive.

If you're dating a bisexual in their early 20s, just remember that while they aren't ever going to be totally serious about it (which is nearly everyone anyway, but bisexuals definitely won't be serious), they did willingly enter the relationship and they have made the choice to be with you even though it makes things more difficult for them. Enjoy your time with them.

>>5970059
There it is. That biscum reasoning.

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>>5970059
>For me, I am definitely a slut. I regularly fuck girls and boys and it's not a problem.
Good for you, really. It's good that you're experimenting in a healthy, responsible way and not putting anyone's emotions under the bus, right?

> and a relationship can feel doubly stifling
Hum... Ok?

> We have to worry about "missing" the other sex (we worry about this more than you do, trust me).
...

> If you're dating a bisexual in their early 20s, just remember that while they aren't ever going to be totally serious about it (which is nearly everyone anyway, but bisexuals definitely won't be serious), they did willingly enter the relationship and they have made the choice to be with you even though it makes things more difficult for them.
Well, when you put it like that I now really think that I DON'T want to date a bissexual. So they're never gonna take me seriously, at least not for a decade, and I'm supposed to just be ok with that and wait it out until the dude either decides he wants to stay with me or have some child bearing pussy?
It's just as >>5970087 said. Which is kinda incredible, because I'm the anon from >>5968419 and I just said I WANT to support bi people, and you managed to heavily sway me against it in a single post just by trying to defend it.

> Just remember that there are bisexuals who you don't know.
Knowing what you have to say hasn't helped at all.

hi /mascgen/. what do you guys make of masculine guys with feminine voices? I've been talking to this big, hairy, masc-looking dude on Scruff for ages, and personality-wise he's very close to being someone i'd want to date, but I met him in person yesterday and his high voice and feminine inflections really weren't what i was expecting. i could tune it out for a little while at a time, but it bothers me that it bothers me, if that makes any sense.

This guy's sweet as hell, but I'm getting over a relationship with a much more masculine [and fit] guy and I just know I don't want to date this new guy anymore. I know him so well from talking online that I'd feel weird not staying friends, but I have a feeling he's gonna be really disappointed. Do I follow my gut or reconsider?

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>>5970059
>relationships can feel doubly stifling
Guess everyone was right about bisexuals not being relationship material.

>>5970197
I don't mind some fem stuff from a masculine looking guy. I might even think it's cute, as long as it's not too much. But from the way you make it sound, I don't think you should date him.

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>>5971127
I love guys in long johns so fucking much

>>5970197
You didn't like him and you're just seeking validation with us. You want us to say you're not shallow and that having a femmy voice is the worst thing ever or some shit like that.
But it isn't, and you're shallow. But it's ok being shallow, aren't we all? But don't deny it.
If you really are so hesitant about this guy you really shouldn't waste his time and emotions by going on any longer. And whatever happens, treat this guy with respect and as a human bean.

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>>5970197
I've gotten over being bothered by feminine voices. My absurdly specific tastes make it difficult enough to find a guy I'm into physically, so how they talk is not gonna be a deal breaker. What they talk about is more interesting to me.

>>5971386
That said, this is probably true, but at the same time, you're not obligated to go out with him. If you're not feeling it, you're not feeling it. But you should also examine why and whether or not that's worth fucking up something good with a nice guy. I know I've broken up with guys for stupid reasons and I ended up regretting it but that's what a fear of commitment and intimacy will get ya.

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Have you ever sniffed another guy's underwear? Maybe they were a friend, or a complete stranger?

What did you smell and how did it make you feel?

>>5970197
Femmy voices are a huge turn off for me. If i'm watching porn and the guy speaks and he has a femme voice, it goes in the trash.

I'm not talking about a voice that is just higher than average, i'm talking about a real "faggy" voice.

>feminine figure
>shitload of bodyhair
>chiselled cheekbones, full/solid face
>girly eyes and hair

I'm like 55kgs. I can never be ripped but going full-on feminine requires way, way, way too much makeup. I'm not typically concerned with stereotypes or tailoring my appearance for others - quite happy with the way I am generally, but I'm getting so tired of the more masculine men I'm into either wanting muscled clones of themselves or prissy, hairless twinks. I don't even know what to do when I'm right in the middle.

>>5972455
>makeup
I meant maintenance. I am in no way interested in makeup.

>>5970011
New Zealand.

What do you think about stretch marks mascgen?
Should I just kill myself already?

>>5973911
They'll fade. Stop being such a faggot.

>>5967909
>>5968439

> tfw total top skelly wanting to develop muscle

>>5970087

Bisexual here (no interest in male genitals). If anything, I see more homosexual men cheating than anything, but that's probably I only know of one bisexual guy, and he cheated on his girlfriend with another girl. A lot of homosexuals seem to avert the potential 'cheating' crisis and have open relationships.

>>5971675

This. I used to be bothered by the way people sound when they spoke, even with a masculine appearance but it's only their voice. If they have a lovely personality, and many great personal qualities, characteristics, and a handsome face...what more do you really want/need?

>>5972381

Nope.

>>5972455

Why can't you ever be ripped..?

>>5973911

They heal with time. I've heard you can use tea tree oil/bio-oil and it's supposed to make them heal quicker, but no scars can really be 'cured' in the sense that they disappear, they can only be treated to reduce the visibility. It's all about body confidence. I have some on my thighs, near my groin, and initially I was really concerned but stopped caring. I blamed puberty for it, but that was something out of my control, so there was no point in worrying anymore.

>>5974021
>>5974002
Thanks for the confidence boost senpai
Its just that I have the back of some fucking slave that gets whipped every day

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>>5974021
>skelly top
disgusting

>>5974055

Don't worry. Everyone is different. Just do your best to make yourself look good.

>>5974081

Toplel. I do plan on working out and developing muscle. However, right now, my education is my priority.

>>5973911
I don't mind them. Just get a tattoo over it or something if its too bothersome.

I have a similar related, what do you think question. It might be tl;dr and TMI, but here goes.

A few years ago I had a thrombosed hemorrhoid they had to cut open. It left a scar, that turned into a skin tag. The last year it has started to fill up with blood if I squat or deadlift, or sit on the toilet. So I went to visit my GP today and she said it was normal and nothing should be done.
I explained that its both a hygienic and self-confidence issue but she dismissed it even when I brought up how it is difficult to have sex because of it. That would be someone else's problem not mine.

Is there a thing like more lgbt friendly doctors, should I get a second opinion? I've read about women suffering the same thing after birth and getting them removed because of the same reasons. Or should I just quit sex and trying to have a sex life?

>>5974090
Plenty of people study and go to the gym. It takes an hour 3 days a week. It's nothing.

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>>5972393
So I'm really into size diff porn and while I don't find him all that attractive I gotta give a shout out to Armond Rizzo. He's super fem and quintessential twink but he's like 5' or something and makes the tops look absolutely massive and he'll take any size dick like a champ

>>5974055
Discover some creams to help you recover. Moisturizer and/or sunflower oil, I don't know.

>>5974021
>I see more homosexual men cheating than anything
I, on the other hand, frequently see bisexual men who are cheating on their wives and looking for some top to fuck them silly. In fact, I actually have only known 2 gay guys whose long time partners cheated on them, and in one of these cases it was a bissexual. (I have seen a lot of gay couples in open relationships, though)
Still, none of what I'm saying means anything because it's only my limited experience. If you have any statistics about gay/bi cheating, then great, please show it. But otherwise discussing which orientation cheats more often is not very productive.

>>5974108

You're right, but I'm an individual who's never worked out before, besides the occasional bodyweight exercises at home and the summer jog. However, I feel as though my education at the moment needs everything I have - I'll finish my degree in May. Meanwhile, I spend time accumulating information and educating myself to put myself in a better position once I'm done, that way I'm more knowledgeable when it comes to exercise and eating habits.

>>5974117

If anything, it just goes to show that it's entirely subjective. There's no specific category that is, from my perspective, more likely to cheat. It's simply down to a shared set of values. I notice among all sexualities that open relationships are becoming more frequent, simply because they allow an emotional attachment and commitment whilst sleeping around to satisfy their sexual desires.

For me, I'm only interested in a loving, romantic, affectionate, monogamous, committed relationship that, ideally, will last until the day I die. I do think I was raised rather traditional and in a somewhat conservative (small 'c') manner, but I'm not letting the cultural shift deter me from what I want to accomplish.

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>>5974137
>>5974117
I went to lunch with my straight co-workers the other day and they had like three different stories of guys they knew whose wives were having affairs with men who were also cheating. I don't think infidelity rates are tied to any one sex or sexuality

The cheating BISCUM thing is just a meme, imo. If you're trying to date a bicurious guy who's obviously just in it for the physical pleasure, don't be surprised when you get treated like shit

>>5974166

I'm in total agreement with you.

I don't know why people are becoming like this though. Personally, I find the emotional fulfillment aspect of a relationship to be more satisfying in the long-term (e.g. achieving our ambitions together, exploring new hobbies and interests, travelling, etc.) than the short-term physical pleasures which could, realistically, take place with anyone (although there's obviously that additional level of intimacy in being sexual with the one you love).

>>5974301
>>5974166
>>5974137
> For me, I'm only interested in a loving, romantic, affectionate, monogamous, committed relationship that, ideally, will last until the day I die
When I hear about people who are desperate for sex with strangers while still being in a relationship, I can only think that they don't know how underwhelming these experiences often are. Maybe they just didn't fool around when they were younger.
Most hook ups are not incredible, mind-expanding experiences that will inject happiness in your brain. By my experiences, they are at best a nice experience and an opportunity to meet interesting people, at worst something you just want to get it over with. But hook ups always are, at least to me, a castrated version of what sex with someone you like is. So I really do understand when someone says they want a lasting monogamous relationship.

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>>5974301
Really it's a matter of patience and trust. Sometimes when you first meet a guy and you're crazy into each other it's really easy to rush the relationship and jump right into bed with one another. At the same time, the ubiquity of apps makes it really easy to find someone else when we run into problems in a relationship. When things get tough or we leave the honeymoon phase, we have a reminder of what we're missing out on right in our pockets.

When you hookup, you don't have to worry about a whole bunch of factors, like what job he has, how's his relationship with his family, does he want kids, etc. You can just have a hot and enjoyable experience. That said I'm not really a fan of hookups, since I get performance anxiety and just end up getting used afterwards.

>>5974361
Feeling, not getting, for that last sentence

>>5974346

> Maybe they just didn't fool around when they were younger.

Though I'm sure you didn't imply this, but it's no excuse to fool around whilst in a committed relationship behind someone's back. The last thing I want is to end up being married for ten years to only later discover that my partner suddenly wants an open relationship, or to start having threesomes, etc.

>>5974361

Yeah, I find a lot of people are always wanting to rush into relationships. I've had people ask me to be their boyfriend within a week, or want sex by the second date and I'm just like woaaah, hold up there dude. I definitely agree with what you say about apps - as soon as there's a hurdle, most seem to find it easier to just find someone else as opposed to actually dealing with the issue, confronting it, and aiming to overcome it together (though this is dependent on the issue as I've got a zero-tolerance policy on cheating).

Hookups aren't my thing, but I don't impose judgment on others who do enjoy hooking up. It's just not for me.

>>5974466
I admit I have that problem of rushing things, but a whole bunch of other factors add to my tendency to self-sabotage relationships. I used to have cheating as an absolute deal breaker, but I saw a really interesting Ted talk that's making me rethink my stance.

https://www.ted.com/talks/esther_perel_rethinking_infidelity_a_talk_for_anyone_who_has_ever_loved?language=en

Not saying I'm down to let my partner sleep around or have open relationships, but I believe it's possible to overcome infidelity if you've been together long enough

Yeah I don't care for hooking up either but I don't like to shit on guys who do and enjoy it

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Does anyone know any other non-erotic bara manga besides my brother's husband?

>>5974466
>I've had people ask me to be their boyfriend within a week
This might be my fear of having a relationship speaking, but there are few things that make me uncomfortable like someone rushing towards a relationship. I've went to dates that were pretty ok, good enough to warrant a second, but I completely lost any will to do that because the other guy became overly enthusiastic, emotional or clingy immediately after the first date ended.

>>5970126
I'm sorry for misspeaking. I was only trying to describe the way I feel and did generalize too much. Many bisexuals are exclusively monogamous, and if one enters a serious relationship with you, you can be near-certain that he or she is serious about the relationship - I shouldn't have said that all bisexuals will feel stifled or unfulfilled, because that definitely isn't true.

As for "worrying," you misunderstood me wildly. It's not that we actually miss the other sex. We worry about missing it. It's a toxic mindset that I'm not sure if I can come up with an analog for - it's a slow, creeping, poisonous thought that what if you're destined to be a cheater? what if you really do miss the other sex? wouldn't that just be AWFUL, huh? It's less of a "worry" and more of an "anxiety." Didn't mean to mislead you there.

I'm so glad that your entire opinion of the millions of bisexuals around the world has been totally wrecked by 3 people. We derive a sick glee from making you feel bad.

Is anyone on /mascgen/ a vegetarian, vegan, or ethical eater?

>>5974568

Thanks for the link. I'll watch it later tonight. My sister had her girlfriend cheat on her, as she drunkenly kissed someone else, and then told my sister two days later in person. My sister had a zero-tolerance policy and her girlfriend knew that. She broke up with her after two and a half years.

I think it's an issue of discipline. If someone cannot restrain their own sexual desires, ignoring the love for their partner, then it's disrespectful. They're putting their lust above the emotional and mental stability of their partner, and the stability of the relationship.

>>5974917

I see that some people do, as you say, become overly enthusiastic and clingy after there's talk of wanting a second date. It can be endearing sometimes and very sweet to be considered so desirable, but there's a balance that has to be struck, and simply rushing things isn't the way to do it.

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>>5975144
She says in the talk
>When we seek the gaze of another, it isn't always our partner that we are turning away from, but the person that we have ourselves become. And it isn't so much as we are looking for another person as much as we are looking for another self
Oftentimes an affair isn't from lust, but a desire to experience a side of yourself that you feel you've been denied. To experience passion after years of steady fidelity. She says thoughts of death and mortality come into play as well. You think "Is this all there is to my one life?"

It's very interesting

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>>5944893
Post pic of yourself

>>5975213

It sounds interesting, but then I feel as though it's irresponsible for people to commit if they're incapable. Surely these doubts/thoughts appear in peoples' minds prior to such commitment, e.g. marriage? I know many people who've had a 'slut phase' and later feel ready to commit. Whereas I've not had one and don't want one, yet have always sought a committed relationship.

People are weird.

>>5975363
Well people are only human and they make mistakes. We get caught up in the moment and sometimes we don't always make the best decisions for ourselves, including getting into an affair.

>>5958332
Gut so. keiner braucht den hier.

>>5975842

> We get caught up in the moment and sometimes we don't always make the best decisions for ourselves, including getting into an affair.

I still don't feel like this is a justification or excuse for doing it though. Of course people make mistakes, but I can never foresee myself cheating on someone once committed. Maybe I'm speaking out of inexperience as I've not been in such a situation, but it seems like communication is essential here - if you're having doubts, then express that, rather than going behind your partner's back to fulfil sexual fantasies that your partner evidently cannot adequately (if at all) satisfy. It seems weak-minded to abandon those devoted to you in the long-term for a sexual encounter that'll probably last less than 20 minutes.

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>>5976215
Jawohl.

>>5976374
[spoiler]life can be terribly complicated[/spoiler]

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On a scale of 1-10, where does sniffing your own underwear after a workout rank on the lewd scale, the pervert scale, and the narcissism scale?

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>>5976374
I never cheated so I wouldn't know it, but I guess that someone about to cheat thinks, in a way or another, that if they *do it discreetly enough* they can keep all the benefits of the relationship while still getting the fun of having sex with other people.
They can make up any kind of justification for that, and they can substitute "fun of having sex with strangers" with anything like "getting the release my partner won't give me" or "exploring my kinks/sexuality" or "having an unique experience with an exceptional person", but to me it all gets down to this risk/reward decision. They think the risk is worth it because the reward is big and the risk of being caught is manageable. And then, it's just them giving up on their morals for a few hours and it's done.
> mascgen: philosophy of cheating edition

>>5976588

Mm, it's a bit much.
I guess it's like when people don't want to admit they like the smell of their own farts, sweat, or musk.
I think everyone likes their own to some extent, but sniffing your own underwear intentionally is a bit much anon.

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>>5976553

Too true, lel.

>>5976666

THOSE QUADS THOUGH.
> mfw

Basically, people who have desires will go out and fulfil them if they think they can avert the risks, or miniminse them, whilst also seeking the reward they desire? Again, I think it boils down to a failure in communication, e.g. if your partner isn't satisfying you, then tell them that, and things can be resolved from there (even if it means breaking up).

Currently watching the TED Talk on infidelity. It's pretty interesting, about people doing it as they think there's a greater chance of happiness (almost halfway through it).

>>5976588
I don't think it's too lewd, perverted or narcissistic. I mean, someday someone might try to give you a bj under any kind of circumstances, maybe even after a workout, so I think it's not unreasonable if you want to know if your underwear/crotch stinks terribly after exercise.
Anyhow, some people do get off on smell. And I don't think that's exceptionally lewd on a kink scale.
But then, I have smelled my underwear and even of some of the guys I hooked up with (it wasn't particularly exciting, though). So I might be a pervert after all and I just can't tell.

>>5975038
>all that damaga control
Sorry anon, but bis are only dateable when they're already divorced and with kids.

>>5976510
Stop talking you murrican

REEE

>>5976730
>>5976510

talking german*

Fuck now I sound rude

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>>5976738
>>5976730
You really should stop posting if you're gonna fuck up so badly so frequently.

>>5976588
Why would i sniff my own underwear? I know what my musk is. I'd want to sniff someone else's.

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>>5976749
Sorry, its almost 2am here and I feel bad. I guess ill stop now.

>>5976755
I prefer someone elses too, but I was at home and changing and I couldn't help but take a sniff. It was nice, so I kinda inhaled for about half a minute.

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>>5976374
No I'm not saying it's a justification for cheating it's just an explanation for why we cheat even when we're in perfectly happy relationships.

>I can never foresee myself cheating on someone once committed
No one does. Most people in exclusive relationships aspire for lifelong monogamy but that doesn't get rid of temptation

>>5976666
It's not a philosophy to justify cheating I'm just posing the question of whether an affair is an absolute end to a relationship, even one that's gone on for say, twenty years. Would you be ready to burn down a life you built with someone over a night of weakness?

The answer to my question doesn't have a right answer, it's a personal question, and one that I used to say Yes to without a second thought, but now I'm not so sure.

Really, I recommend watching the TED talk, because it's pretty interesting. Here it is on YouTube if you don't feel like watching it on the Ted player because it's kinda trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AUat93a8Q

>tfw bf hits 3 plate atg squat
>tfw you bb that daily

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>>5977487
Sounds hot.

>>5977523
This is the closest I've seen to an Asian bara dude. Is it just like genetics that Asian guys are practically hairless on their chest? I've never seen it.

Anybody here got body image issues?

Physically, I'm a starving twink

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>>5977375
THICK

>>5978284
>aleksandr schukin
he does pornofilm. it was scandal on russia

>>5978316
Can you blame him? That gorgeous body needs action.

And where can i watch this porn?

>>5978336
here go crazy. this is old news on russia

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80+%D1%89%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE

>>5978350
wow its rare that i like someone and i get to see them naked, much less watch them have sex.

>>5978350
maybe i didn't know because i don't fucking speak russian?

also most of these sites are spamming popups even through adblock. Do you have a link to a site that doesn't?

>>5978417
I'mma go ahead and call bullshit since it's rabbi

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>>5978440
it does look an awful lot like him

>>5978417
http://xtubetv.ru/rus_porno_film/40565-bolelshhicy-futbola.html
there you go

>>5978440
he admitted in interview on russian he did porn. it is well known. many famous people did.

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>>5978454
man i must be turbo gay because i found it hard to get through the sex, but damn aleksandr has a nice fat cock. I knew he was packing a fat one in those tight lycra pants.

>>5978583
>man i must be turbo gay
Most mathc4mathc gays are that is why overcompensate.

>>5978754
is this mathc4mathc?
http://xhamster.com/movies/2466024/brad_kalvo_fucks_mike_dozer.html?pb

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>tfw engaged to a musclecub

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>>5977375

She says though, in the clip, that people ought to turn their temptation and efforts to cheat inwardly, to focus on their own relationship, and in doing so they rekindle the relationship they once had or begin a new one together, thus averting all potential emotional crises.

>>5979223
Jelly

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How are my masc homies doing in the gym? Post symmetricstrength and let's compare our lifts
[spoiler]You do lift, right? How can you ever be truly masc if you don't hone your body in meaningless displays of strength? [/spoiler]

>>5977697
Stretch marks on the backs of my thighs, I suspect from losing/gaining weight for wrestling.

>>5979669
Post tiger-striped butt

>>5979673
It's really hairy, and I've been told that I have a "black booty." Nobody wants to see that.

>>5977697
skin tags

>>5977697
I'm the ugly brother

>>5977697
I've got pectus excavatum

Rip me

>>5979754
ooh, that can't be pleasant

>>5979754
Big deal. I do too and that never stopped me.

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>tfw no german bf to hold you close and sing songs about WWII

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>>5979851
Oh shit Im sorry
How do you embed yt links?

>>5979859
https://www.youtube.com/embed/6YnrsfdGeZA
Like this

>>5979863
what
Like
THIS
https://youtu.be/6YnrsfdGeZA

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>>5979863