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Domme edition

▶Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV (embed)
▶Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968

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>>5933868
WOW
LEWD
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>>5933868
>Tried to post Sunstone but image limit
>New thread has Sunstone OP
Nice.

I want a master to do this to me so badly.
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There we go.. Miss Kelly had business. I notice everything. ;)
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heh cute edition......
help some1
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>>5933876
fgt
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>>5933877
Dont even get me started.
>tfw no Kelly gf
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>>5933881
I am a turbofaggot anon :3
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>>5933860
>>5933862
There. See?
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>>5933882
FUCK, Sunstone is so insanely sexy.
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>>5933884
damn, move to portland already
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>>5933885
C-Call me a good girl please.

>>5933886
I fucking love Sunstone and Shiniez.
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>>5933890
what why
for whom
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>>5933885
WAHH :(((((
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>>5933877
>>5933880
>>5933882
>>5933892
>>5933894
No running. We can have tons of fun ^.^
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>>5933893
for turbofaggotry
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working on a summer body....
just need to get an okay tummy...

https://unsee.cc
/gemudota/
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>>5933898
I just felt shivers all over...
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>>5933892
I need an Ally gf so badly.
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>>5933905
wowie u have a small waist @_____@
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>>5933900
but I already have a man to cuddle and love and serve
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>>5933910
ill steal him
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>>5933908
>tfw iktf all too well
;~;
I should get to bed before I start yearning too much.
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>>5933912
b-but
anon
I need him :(
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>>5933907
Ill have to check Sunstone out..
I have Mord Sith to offer.
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>>5933917
You should. Its really good.
G-Good night Kelly.. [spoiler]I can be good too.[/spoiler]
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>>5933915
welp

i need a bf too desu ;_;
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Hey /mtfg/
How's your day ?
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>>5933905
You already have a cute tummy. You might want to do some hip work though, you could get them a little wider with some exercise.

>>5933917
Sunstone is pretty good, not finished though so you'll run into a cliffhanger eventually. Can get a little feelsy too.
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>>5933921
where are you from?

>>5933922
hello
send help
my head hurts and I am terribly dizzy
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>>5933924
how to get wider hips with exercise?
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>>5933925
funland

not really all that fun desu
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>>5933919
G'night pet.
>>5933924
Eww, unfinished? I record full seasons so i dont have to wait.
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>>5933925
I'm not in the best situation atm either
I have the worst stomach cramps and just threw up from the pain :(
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>>5933929
at least you can go innawoods when shit hits the fan. its a pretty great country imo. though Ive never been there myself

>>5933932
;~;
get well soon
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>>5933924
i thought I already had wider hips....I have curves.....
but I would like to get wider hips....how?
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>>5933938
You can tone those specific muscles a bit but even then the majority is bone structure. Not much changing it
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>>5933934
Probably not the best easter this year ...
But everything else is pretty ok :)
>>5933926
I think i got wider hips from hrt
Not too much though :(
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goodnight
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>>5933924
assuming its you: I responded last night :3
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>>5933942
goodnight sheen :(
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Why are over half of /mtfg/ threads some variant of 'transbian edition' with anime lesbians or some weird fetish shit as the image?

Seriously, you agp freaks have your own generals.
Fuck off with tasteless lesboshit and keep it there, realise not everyone here wants to be constantly bombarded with lesbian fetish shit
and start making generals which don't make straight trans girls want to vomit.
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>>5933905
I swear you look like a more fem version of me with longer hair its scary
id post a pic for comparison but i dont wanna.
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>>5933947
ahahahahahah good one
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Oh my fuck, if i stayed up this long in order to do what i need to, and it turns out im not doing that til noon? Ill hurt someone.
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>>5933926
The same way you get anything with exercise. Use either leg weights at home or machines at a gym, making sure you struggle slightly with the weight, and then lift repeatedly until you can't manage anymore. Repeat every other day, straining and building your muscle, until they grow large enough to be visibly different. You can get a visible increase in hip width with proper working out, at least an inch or two on each side.

>>5933931
I'm the same way, I was annoyed when I read it and realized the person who told me I should didn't mention it wasn't finished. And it has been unfinished forever too.

>>5933938
see above

>>5933943
I do know somebody who responded to me last night on skype, but I don't know if you're them, sorry.
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>>5933947
deal with it.
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>>5933952
come on~ show! I won't be mean!

People say I have curves....I thought that meant I had hips...


I have to bet bigger hips !!!!!
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What up my fellow hons :)
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>>5933955
hips are bone not muscle, what muscles should i even target
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>>5933947
You can wait till it's time for a new edition and make your own i think
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>>5933954
W-what'll you do if you have to wait that long o-o''
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>>5933955
oh nevermind then anon. I mistook you for someone else
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>>5933963
Give your gf the pics of your head in my lap, it just has to look guilty enough to be believable.
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>>5933966
n-noooOOO
hey can u teach my gf how to dom thank u ....
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>>5933947
I wouldn't be upset if anime didn't exist
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>>5933968
Youuuuu.... lucky girl..
Ill be back later, day is getting busy.
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>>5933971
H-have fun I hope it goes well !!
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>>5933957
You have excellent curves, a really narrow waist is the biggest part of that. But your shoulders are a decent bit wider than your hips. Wide shoulders can be really nice, but the ratio is important.

>>5933959
the hips are made of bone, but there's muscle everywhere anon. the tensor muscle is at the bottom of your high hip area and can be worked on in a few ways, and then combined with upper leg exercises like your quads and sartorius and general glute exercises can give a better hip appearance overall.

>>5933964
okay
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>>5933947
Not this gal, but I feel like recent mtfgs are quite homosexual. You know that straight girls exist, right? :(
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>>5933976
Well, it's not their fault we're in minority
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>>5933975
decent bit....
I thought I had smaller shoulders for a mtf.....
ughhhh!!!!!!
fuck!

I'll need to work really hard to get my hips bigger....
fuck!!!

Also I really love Gazelle from Zootopia cuz my legs are TOO STRONK!
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>>5933976
I dont mind that. just makes non degenerates shine brighter imo
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>>5933982
>non degenerate
Sure :^)
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>>5933985
s-stop they mustnt know ;_;
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Geralt a qt
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>>5933976
You realize there is exactly nothing stopping you from posting about wanting to suck a guys dick right? Right? Who gives a shit about anyones sexuality here god damn.
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>>5933989
I wish magic was real and I could turn myself cis and then have Gerald none me
that'd be nice
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g-good night
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>stumble upon MTFG again last night after roaming through 4chan
>oh wow so many memories, well anyways it's good I got over all that trans stuff years ago
>do laundry and go to bed
>alarm goes off, wake up
>turn through laundry basket to find something to wear for work
>wait a second, is that...are those...
>lots of girl clothes mixed throughout
>what the fuck how did they get there, is this a dream? Nope the clock and everything checks out, oh shit I gotta hurry for work
>okay okay I'm just gonna take this one and this one and this one and then I'll go take a shower and try them on and then come back ho-

>alarm goes off, wake up

I blame you guys, you did this to me
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>>5933999
none?
Also, whatever you're saying it sounds really nice.
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>>5933981
I'm not saying you have really wide shoulders or anything, I'm saying your shoulders are wider than your hips and you could have nicer hips. and legs. and a cuter butt. None of the things you have are bad, but you can always look better. Anybody who really wants to look as good as they can should exercise.

>>5934000
Sleep tight. Don't let the bed bugs bite.

>>5934001
Take your titty skittles and accept it
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>>5934001
you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave
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>>5934005
>>5934007

It felt

SO

FUCKING

REAL

but you know it was clothes so thats agp as fuck so no skittles for me thnx
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>>5934004
I meant bone but autocorrect and cracked screen
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>>5934007
I'd love to check out, I hear 12 gauges are hard to mess up and it's just a squeeze away to peace. too bad I live in suburban australia
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>>5934012
Are you seriously saying you don't want to transition because you're afraid of being agp? Just take your skittles to look how you want.
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>>5934015
>tfw you will never have a cinderella inspired date with geralt.
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>>5934012
yeah dreaming about requiring women's clothing while repressing is sooooo agp and not at all your subconscious mind thinking about your need to transition

btw even if you were agp you should probably transition anyway
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>>5934016
One day we will get that eternal peace, Liz tm
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>>5934016
how suburban?
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>>5934018

Nah I'm just joking. I decided and put my foot down years ago I could never pull off a full lifestyle change like that with the body and the clothes and the family and the job so I'm just some weirdly andro fag now instead, I'm fine referring myself as just a guy, doesn't bother me none

I mean like I do actually think about it all the time still, but just for daydreaming in a totally non committed way unlike when I used to browse boards like this and /cd/ etc for years and years looking up hormone charts and all that stuff.

I mean I'm not trans for REAL it's just a fantasy lol. agp as fuq
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>>5934039
You decided years ago to not work on looking more like you want to because it would be too hard? But you still think about it all the time?

Seriously anon, just take the pills. You don't have to transition in any other way, but make your body look how you want it to look. You can hide the tits and everything from people easily, don't sit there and tell yourself you don't want to take them though.
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>>5934024
meet up before suicide pact when?
>>5934038
greater Melbourne
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>>5934039
That repression tho
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>>5934039
when you inevitably transition you will hate all the time you fantasised about it and wish you just had done it
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>>5934039

(okay this post looks bad but I'm fine how I am now...)

>>5934042
>>5934045
>>5934049

ahhh come on, you gotta believe me
I'm gonna be thinking about this all day now
fuck you mtfg
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>>5934050
your repression isn't our fault
the fact you hang out here is indicative of what you want out of life
be true to yourself anon-chan
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>>5934050
Better do it now than in 30 years
Or do you want to end up as a 50yo dressing like a 15yo behaving like a man because you're too old to change your behavior
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>>5934044
Whenever I get to aus
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>>5934050
Holy shit you have to be pulling a sick social experiment, I have a hard time believing it's even possible to be this repressed.
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>>5934056
Be nice to her, she'll get there ^.^
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>>5934056
You should visit /femgen.
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>>5934050
I believe in you!
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>>5934058
referring to her by female pronouns might stir super happy funtime feelings
that's how it was for me
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what are names to avoid when choosing a new one
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>>5934067
Made-up ones
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What's up everyone, I just got off of work.
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>>5934067
just choose one in your birth year or ask your parents if thats possible
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>>5934069
alright how's this one?
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>>5934067
The stripper sounding ones. Those are the first any new tranny thinks of.
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>>5934067
Susan
Jennifer
Skylar
Mary/marian/any variation
Amelia
anything with a K
names from the 70s and below

GOOD LUCK
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>>5934067
Anything spelled weird or not of your ethnicity. It's okay to take something less common, it's not okay to spell Sarah Ceru or name yourself Akatsuki Fire-Dash or Candy.

>>5934073
Claire is a cute name, I've always really liked it.
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>>5934076
forgot alice
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>>5934076
>mfw Elizabeth is a top tier hon name
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>>5934076
Alice and Amanda are also no go
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>>5934076
Narcissa
Edith
Sharon
Courtney
Mimi
Bianca
Tyla
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>>5934073
I know several Claires so if you're in the 18-25 years old range, pretty normal
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>>5934067
Angie :)
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>>5934082
>Narcissa
that.. that is something else
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>casually lurk mtfg but not a tranny/chaser
What does this mean
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>>5934089
This is how it begins, you'll be on hormones within a year.
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>>5934092
shelly
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>>5934067
Angela
Kayla
Shannon
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>>5934089
get on hrt and post about how much you appreciate precum soaked penises
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>>5934050
You know, back when I was functionally repressing, there were whole months that went by that weren't so bad. I thought, "sure, I'm fantasizing about being, living as, having a family as a woman, but I'm totally OK with my life. Not suicidal in the least!" Those were the good times. The bad times came a lot more often, and a lot worse, every year.

I'm going to advise against your current course of action. While there are trans women whose first explorations of their identity are sexual in nature, and that seems to indicate that they are "AGP", it's very rare for that to be the extent of their identity. Almost invariably, once they begin allowing themselves to explore and express themselves as women, the sexual "fetish" element fades into the background.

At least try to do right by yourself, Anon.
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>>5934092
>>5934099
Nice try girls. Maybe I just enjoy your suffering?
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>>5934095
A bit late there anon
I already threw my name in the hat >>5934085

Though I don't see why you have to bully shannon
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>>5934094
Hey Luzzles, how have you been?
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>be me back in high school
>I get asked out by girl in 8th grade, and say no
>I get asked out by girl in 11th grade, and say yes but it doesn't last because I never initiated sex with her. In fact I wasn't even attracted to her, I kind of just got pressured into saying yes.
>senior prom comes in 12th grade
>my mom's friend's daughter from another school needs a prom date, so I go with her. Seeing all the girls in pretty dresses with make up made me want to die, so I went straight home after, I didn't even go to the after party. >then I get asked by two different girls at my own school prom
>I tell both of them no, my excuse was "prom is boring, and I'd rather spend the money on myself"
>I spend prom night playing video games and hating myself
>tfw you will never be asked by a qt boy to prom
>tfw you will never wear a prom dress
>tfw you will never go through high school being comfortable in your own skin
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Pick one. I already have dibs on pink undies short hair.
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>>5934105
maybe you are trying to live vicariously through us because you'll never have the lady balls to transition
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>>5934082
Bianca is a pretty normal name where i live
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>>5934108
I start E in like 2 1/2 weeks, introducing spiro into my system right now and I could be moving interstate for work, strange times ahead. how about you?
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>>5934113
brunette on the right, I want her hair and body
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>>5934108
shit I need to fill mine out should I put this in
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If I have an attractive face, but long fingers and long feet, how bad is it?

How many cis girls have long fingers and long feet?
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>>5934113
Montana Cox.
Good choice anon.
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>>5934119
Wow thats cool, congrats on the mones!
I'm doing pretty well, went fulltime a month ago and its going pretty well.

>>5934123
Yes, its best to be honest after all.
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>>5934119
is that you? jesus
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>>5934124
Long fingers (proportionally)? Quite a few.
Long feet? Not many. While not immediately noticeable they are very jarring.
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I'm so freaking cute today. Came out on facebook and to some family members.
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>>5934110
Being asked to high school dances by girls was really weird desu
I think I went to homecoming once or twice just to do it but I turned down an invite to prom and ended up hanging out with her all night anyway, for other reasons
Also, getting asked out by girls is awful when you don't like them
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>>5934124
Depends on how long they're exactly
What's your shoe size ?
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>>5934128
thanks, we'll see how I end up after 6-12 months
>went fulltime a month ago
that's great news, what's it like in WA?
>>5934130
no I look way worse rofl
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>>5934135
about time you admitted it
how did your family take it? are they setting you up dates with cute boys?
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>>5934135
Congrats!

>>5934136
I'm kinda glad we don't really have stuff like that around here
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>>5934124
All the women in my family have had much longer fingers than me, most of them wore a large glove. It's not a very big deal. Feet are more of an issue, anything over like a women's 10, which is a men's 8, and shoes will be hard to find. Once you hit women's 12/13, which is men's 10/11, you're really screwed as far as shoe selection. But for pure appearance reasons it depends on how tall you are. They aren't directly masculine traits even if they are unattractive to a lot of people. Your face is much more important.
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>>5933868

Is that yaoi, tho?
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>>5934115
Touching 'mones would physically hurt me. Doesn't it hurt your nuts when they shrink? Jesus man it makes me cringe.
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>>5934144
What do you mean?
You didn't have school dances or you didn't have girls trying to get with you?
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>>5934151
Not a bit desu
But it makes it super easy to tuck without any discomfort
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>>5934150
>a Pneumonic Drill
this makes me really uncomfortable
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>>5934143
It's mostly positive "we knew" responses.
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>>5934155
School dances aren't a thing here

I had lots of girls wanting to be with be when i think about it
But i always kinda ignored that or told them i'm not interested
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>>5934136
This, I really get tired of turning down girls. And now girls at my work are flirting with me and it sucks (still in the closet).
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>>5934157
The whole thought of sterilising myself is physically painful. Super hot sterilising/castration others tho.
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>>5934151
>Touching 'mones would physically hurt me.
That scared of them?

>Doesn't it hurt your nuts when they shrink?
Happens really slowly over a long time. Basically unnoticeable. By contrast, boobs growing hurts at first, but fades into a general soreness over time - it's a good pain desu.

>Jesus man it makes me cringe.
Why? Are you very attached to the size and fullness of your testicles?
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>>5934151
no it doesn't hurt at all
being horny is way different, you feel like you have a raging erection but you are soft down there and there's a need that comes from deep inside of your loins
orgasms feel like your entire body is a penis and your receiving a mild electric shock while floating
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>>5934164
Oh OK
>>5934166
It was mostly just uncomfortable for me since the ones who wanted to date me weren't at all attractive
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>>5934171
I don't really care about being sterile this way
I don't want to be daddy and i'm straight so sperm is worthless anyway
I wish i had an uterus though
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>>5934181
Do you think you would go infertile permanently?
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>>5934135
>tfw not ever cute
But thanks for the encouraging words
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>>5934172
No its just really unhealthy imo, also I'm a carpenter and bump/hit myself all the time (especially the chest) and fuck it would hurt.
>>5934173
I doubt that. Doesn't high estrogen/low test kill your libido?
>>5934181
You will never breed, you are just a felshlight that walks.
In all honesty, women are more useful than you.
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>>5934183
On hormones/AAs at some point sure
I want srs anyway which means 100% castrated
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>tfw you make a video game character look like you as imagined post-transition and then have to cover their face the entire game

I didn't know dark souls 3 would be this kind of difficult
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>>5934181
Having a uterus would kick so many kinds of ass. Stupid trans body.

>>5934173
God, yes. Just struggling not to writhe with pleasure so badly that I can't keep playing with my nipples. Fuck, I need to get laid. A co-worker I know well said he thought I was a girl when I came in today, dumpy work uniform, no makeup and all. Is... is there a chance I could pull off getting a bf or gf if I try? I'm probably not a terrible person.
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>>5934187
>Doesn't high estrogen/low test kill your libido?
lowers your sex drive doesn't mean remove it and you don't need an erection to be horny either
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>>5934119
Wew i wish i had courage like you do o:
Good luck with the skittle magics 8)
>>
I am a failure
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>>5934187
I'll probably adopt if i can though
Also around 7% of women are infertile
I have other qualities than just sex too

And all in all the whole human race is useless anyway
Our existence isn't something special in relation to the unverse
It's not even important for our own planet
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>>5934007
Thats my favorite hotel.
>the only acceptable answer.
When a reference is made, it must be recognized.
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>>5934201
Me too. Go us
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>>5934187
Why are you here anyway?
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>>5934187
It's a myth that women are not sexual creatures. The way you experience sexuality changes. For some, that can mean a reduced sex drive. But for most, it seems to eventually result in a much more active sexual urge. Possibly due to discomfort with the nature of a high-test sex drive?

Different, but very real.

Also, quit being an asshole.
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>>5934076
Woah woah. No fair.
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>>5934198
>i wish i had courage like you do
don't worry I wanted to quit loads of times but I had good friends keep me going and I still have at least 6 months where no one will notice; my family know and split on the matter, work doesn't care either as long as I keep getting the work done. you'll get yourself out there
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>>5934106


This, also shannon stopped coming here after she started a new job.
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>>5934088

that's cosmo :)
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>>5934223
how long ago was that?
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>>5934202
I was hoping for an angrier response, yet again you disappoint.
>>5934207
I asked that question myself a few posts ago.
>>5934208
I never said women weren't sexually, silly.
I meant women can produce children, other than sex.
>Also, quit being an asshole
I like bullying people. I mean, I even have a thread up about how I used to bully kids.
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>being asked out by a local guy on Instagram.
Im not ready..
Thick thighs reporting in also.
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>>5934233
Well fuck. Forgot picture.
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>>5934235
FEEFEE
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>>5934235
>having a union jack pin on your american car
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>>5934232
>bullying people
Damn man, how edgy of you

>>5934235
Tfw have skinny 23" thighs
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What's up /mtfg/. I finally have a method of suicide that is nearly 100% effective, and if everything goes well, I should be dead soon.

The reason I have come here is two-fold:

Firstly, for some final advice. Convince me to transition, convince me to come out. Be honest and tell me if it's actually worth it and why.

Secondly, to say goodbye. If there is no point to transitioning and life doesn't change for the better, then I will just follow through, and say my farewell here.

P.S. I am not doing this for attention. There is no need to comfort me. Either be completely honest or don't say anything at all.
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>>5934241
Its a Nissan. Also my dad has the british zoom zoom. The upkeep costs are horrible for minis.
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>>5934241
>nissan
>american car
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>>5934232
I feel like my live is moving on pretty good lately
Ok, sometimes i feel pretty bad but all in all things get better
but i'm never really angry 2bh :)
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>>5934243
Blow me dude.
>>5934247
You won't pass, and more importantly, you won't ever be a real girl.
Bye bye kiddo.
>>5934256
Do you want a cookie? Jesus you're the worst trip fag here lol.
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>>5934258
How long does your mom let you stay on the Internet?
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>>5934232
>I never said women weren't sexually, silly.
No. You just expressed doubt at Anon's description of her sexual experience, so I explained why your doubt was ill-founded.
>I like bullying people. I mean, I even have a thread up about how I used to bully kids.
Well, no time like the present to grow up.
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>>5934238
I cant help it anymore.. feefee?
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>>5934258
I'm doing my best :)
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>>5934247
Just transition. Worst case scenario it fails miserably and you can off yourself in a few years.
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>>5934258
Calm down whingie.
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>>5934260
>own my own home at 19
>mother kicked me out at 16
Do Americans really live at home past 18?
>>5934261
Awww, all that effort and I didn't even read your post ;3c
>>5934265
Post pics of yourself
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>>5934247
I feel better since i transitioned
It took some time but now since i'm at 1 year hrt i feel less depressed/suicidal than before hrt
And i'm feeling like things start to move
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>>5934269
But that wasn't me :/
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>>5934272
>own my own home at 19
Ok
Bro
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This man runs your discord server and you filthy degenerates still go in there Pic Related also VOTE FOR TRUMP
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>>5934272
I'm not interested in posting my pics atm
You would just needlesly insult me doesn't matter how i look
I doubt you're a prime specimen of manliness either 2bh :)
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>>5934289
>voting for someone with no political experience
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>>5934289
I don't visit the discord cuz that's degenerate.
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>>5934285
Hahaha you STILL live with mummy? Awww how cute. I can't believe Americans are this soft.
It's called work ethic, Princess ~
>>5934294
>You would just needlesly insult me doesn't matter how i look
Clever girl
>I doubt you're a prime specimen of manliness either 2bh :)
Tren is a wonderful drug, it's not hard to be manly when AAS exist
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>>5934303
Na bro
I moved out at 18.
Nice try though dude :)
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>>5934289
DESIGNATED
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>>5934247
I wish it were all sunshine and roses (those things exist, I even got some of both for my birthday), but that would be dishonest. Transition is hard, scary, and you want as much support as you can possibly get going in - friends, family, medical personnel, the works. Every step is terrifying, but rewarding. Coming out to the people closest to me left me feeling like I'd dropped a hundred pounds - no more bullshit, no more faking being someone for no one's benefit. Hormones have made me immensely more comfortable in my mind, and most days I look in the mirror, even if I still hate what I see, I hate it less than I did the day before. Kind of the opposite of pre-hormone mornings.

Still just starting social transition, but... when I'm just some plain, tall lady to the people I interact with, it feels comfortable in a way dealing with people has never, ever been.

I'm so much more self-conscious now, though. I worry about my appearance constantly, and getting clocked is devastating. Even just being "sir"ed or "man"ed in boy mode hurts my feelings. I get lonely much more easily, and I need physical intimacy on the regular or I start going a bit weird. So yeah. Support networks are very helpful for staving off madness. This place helps most of the time, too.

Having other trans friends to discuss trans stuff with keeps the isolation at bay.
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>>5934306
>taking off your trip
I love it, when you passive aggressive sex toys have beef with one another, you take off your trips and insult each other like nothing.
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>>5934303
>tren
lol
I said manly
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everytime an anon comes in here with the bait this happens
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I'm tired of being a dude in girls clothes.
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getting an orchiectomy before getting srs cause srs costs so much, yay or nay?
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>>5934076
Da fuq is wrong with any of those names? Just don't name yourself after a gemstone or some stripper name.
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>>5934324
I want to go to suporn so nay
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>>5934289
Poo in the loo
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>>5934326
What's wrong with crystal ?
Or saphira
Or ruby
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>>5934327
When? I hope I can get a place by the end of the year 2016.
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>>5934310
>implying
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>>5934324
Talk with the surgeon you want to do your SRS about it first. Some (Suporn famously) won't do it at all if you've had an orchi, whereas others have preferences in terms of how the orchi incision is made so they have as much unscarred tissue to work with as possible. Seems many have different preferences on what tissue they use where, and it's not entirely uniform.
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>>5934309
Thanks for the reply. I'm pretty sure that my family will disown me immediately though, and only a few friends would accept me. I also have zero trans friends, which means that I can't relate to or get advice from anyone.

In other words, I'd have to shoulder this burden all by myself.
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>>5934336
More like in 1 or 1 1/2 years
I want to get my insurance to pay at least a bit of it
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>>5934317
>trenbolone acetate
>not the manliness steroid
Dude this shit dries out my face and gives me veins EVERYWHERE

It's worth the mental illnesses desu
>>5934322
No I'm just that good
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>>5934345
Not entirely.

Be open with the friends you think would be on your side, and consider making trans friends. Depending on where you live, it could be easier or harder to make in-person connections, but this thread alone is brimming with posters that are also looking to meet people. Maybe it would just be online, if you're in the middle of nowhere, but even that is much better than nothing.
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I'm starting to think I'm not a girl at all because I can't relate to any mtfs and I can't relate to any biogirls. I just feel like a guy trying to trick everyone.
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>>5934345
Where are you from anon

If you want to talk i can give you my skype :)
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>>5934345
I lost a couple of friends but the ones who get mad weren't worth it anyway. as for family this can be difficult but easier to manage if A. you're out of home B. you make it clear how badly it's affecting your life, just don't make a victim case out of it though
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Does anyone have any experience with Saw Palmetto? I am planning on using it to block a but of testosterone before I can see the gender therapist.
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>>5934367
Have the reasons you chose to transition changed, or ceased to be relevant?
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>>5934374
*bit
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So what's the best way to lose body mass?
I wear a medium and want to get to a small or x-small
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>spend entire week worrying I'd be denied a loan and wouldn't be able to afford orchy without totally breaking the bank
>wake up to phone call that loan was approved
>and another that tax return is finally on it's way
>feel happy for the first time in weeks
I just have to survive no HRT until my surgery and then everything is golden.

>tfw things are actually getting better
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>>5934390
Eat fewer calories. Do cardio to shed excess.
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>>5934392
Congratulations! That sounds very uplifting. Your surgery is coming up that soon? Crazy. Good luck and take it easy for a few weeks after.
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>>5934372
I'm sorry I don't have Skype, only a couple messaging apps
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>>5934412
Oh ok
I made an extra skype just for adding people from /lgbt/ didn't really use it before
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>>5934345
my family disowned me too, and I had no trans friends, but like, you can pull through, lmk if you ever wanna talk i have like all the messaging apps, and skype and whatever.
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>tfw luring a formerly unaware straight guy into the house bearing coffee
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>>5934432

Thats pretty gay.
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>>5934412
You'll get support from us, if you want it. You just have to offer a means of contact and kind-hearted girls like >>5934414 and >>5934419 will be within reach before you know it.

Sometimes, this place descends into shit, but most people here are very supportive of one-another. Anon's a mixed bag, and some trips have feuds, but this place is a lot warmer than much of 4chan.
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>>5934414
>>5934419
If you have it , then you can add me on kik.
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>>5934392
I miss you alot and im going to pick my first lower this week
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>>5934441
Give me yours, maybe i'll register/download it later
I'm at my grandma's house and only have mobile net atm
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>Best of wishes in all that you do, Caddy. I'm removing your phone/skype so I can't initiate contact with you anymore. It just hurts too much. Hopefully I will be able to move on more easily if I'm not reminded of you with Skype or your number popping up in my contacts. Goodbye.
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>>5934438
Nothing gay about coffee, the rest? Eh.
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>>5934441
add me, panfiblue
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>>5934449

Did you invite him over just to "talk"?
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>>5934448
Awwwwh Caddy..
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>>5934432
Hot coffee?
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>>5934448
Damn that's cold. What's the context?
Jilted lover?
Member of family?
Close friend?
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>>5934451
Something along those lines. Knows i have a gt so..
>shrug
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>>5934453
I asked for iced.
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>>5934445
HannahLacroix66
>>5934450
Okay
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>>5934457

Make sure to taste his cock sandwich.
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>>5934460
Shame ;~;
How will he know what you're implying if you don't ask for hot coffee?
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>>5934457
"I-i'm just here for free coffee, sorry"
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Does kayla still come on here?
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>>5934452
>>5934455
Jilted lover.

It was a one night thing a few months ago. He's in an open relationship which is why I ended it. I mean, do what you have to do to not be hung up on someone, but why act like this if you have someone who loves you in your bed right now?

I'll go full self-centered and say I'M the one who fell for someone I couldn't be with. I'm the one who's alone. Jesus.
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>>5934473
Yes, but less. She's starting to move forward with her transition (and life), though, and this place probably reminds her a lot of how shit the road to where she is has been. Being reminded of her own behaviour, and the hurt it caused her and others, probably also contributes.
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>>5934468
Theres two things on my mind right now that make the sound, ca.. and it aint the raven.
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>>5934475
Aww, Caddy.

I'm sorry that went so badly. It sucks and it's unfair of him to respond that way.
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>>5934475
You little heart-breaker librarian, you.
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Scheduling a consult with Spiegel but getting nervous. I don't need ffs to pass so it is mainly for vanity...my surgical goal is to look more feminine but I also desperately want to be prettier and that's not what ffs is for. Just worried that I might not be making the right choice or something @_@
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>>5934482
>>5934473
Kayla isn't really moving on
She takes her hormones but doesn't do much else
She comes here pretty often to insult people, sometimes as anon
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>>5934473
Come?
He never left.
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>>5934487
It looks like she's moving out, and she's starting to go out presenting female on the regular. Her non-Anon posts are improving, and she's taking it back when she makes really awkward, gross jokes (sometimes). It could all be fake, but it really doesn't seem like it this time.
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>>5934483
Cawfee
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>>5934482
>She's starting to move forward with her transition (and life)
She does that every month and then it turns out she made it up.
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>>5934482
Oh well I wish her the best then
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>>5934492
Idk, she doesn't really go out in girlmode afaik
She ones like 5 pieces of girl clothes
She won't really move on, i think she likes her victim role too much
>passers out reeee
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>>5934495
>>5934496
>>5934499
I learned within a month not to even bother with that one. I tried like the rest lol.
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>>5934484
It's not unfair to remove people to get over them, but I just don't get the whole dynamic with his relationship. Maybe this kind of stuff happens to polys but I would be so upset if I was his girlfriend and he was crying like this over someone else.

>>5934485
For real though, I felt really guilty about it last night. This isn't the first time I've got a message like this. I don't know how to look for the right person without chewing up and spitting out the ones that aren't right for me.

>>5934486
Are you seeing a therapist about it? I have no good advice.
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>>5934505
I enjoy librarians. :p
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>>5934499
>>5934500
She is moving on, I can attest.
It's hard for her.
She's having issues with stubble.
And she needs an irl friend/a one night stand..

It's irl support and experiences she lacks and she's trying her damndest with what little tools she has. Give it time.

And, she really is selling her bike.. Once that's done, her world will flip to a new life after a bit after she plays her cards right
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>>5934510
You should. We're awesome, and often lesbians.
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>>5934511
Idk what believe
Kayla's been around for ages and while she progressed she often falls back to her old self
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>>5934505
This has nothing to do with you. The dude is acting like a little bitch. He composed that melodramatic message, fired it off and probably promptly forgot about you.
Worry about yourself more.
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just woke up ugh

>>5934511
thanks for the vote of confidence, at least you understand how hard it truly is to transition
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>>5934518
Kayla is not progressing. All this talk abut moving forward is just that- talk. All these newfags have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes when it comes to Kayla. Just filter and ignore. That losers hasn't changed one bit in the past seven years and probably never will.
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>>5934521
Sorry to open the can of worms, just last i saw you in a thread things seemed pretty bad- wondering if life things are getting better for you now?
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>>5934518
Mmhmm... But this time around, while she's still a shitposting asshole, she really is making an effort.
Tbh, the being gendered female while boymode probably finally got to her.
I don't "believe" or not..
It's a fact.
She really is.
And as far as her bike is concerned, it IS worth as much as she says it is and I would accept low-ball offers either.
If I had the money, I'd buy it!

Just because she likes being a dick in the internet, doesn't mean she's not putting effort into getting out of her hole once and for good.

She's starting to pass irl in boymode... That was the final push.

You people are being the dicks now.
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>>5934526
*wouldn't accept low-ball offers
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>>5934525
No, probably going to hang myself because I will never look like a female.

>>5934518
>>5934522
>>5934526
lets just stop talking about me
stop
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>tfw actually a dom
kek
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>>5934526
>You people are being the dicks now.
Yeah, probably
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>>5934486
ffs for yourself is just fine. I'm probably going to get some touch ups in a few years. if it makes you more confident and you can afford it, why the hell not right?
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>>5934536
B-but i didn't start the conversation :(
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>>5934393
I do, do all of that and it doesn't work
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>>5934536
I want to fund friend date for us in wine country later this year.

Or, I'll "borrow" toys from my parents and we could go play in the dunes for a few days.
Maybe even do the Halloween events?
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>>5934526
>It's a fact.
>She really is.
I'll believe it when I see it

>You people are being the dicks now.
How could we be so silly? It's all our fault Kayla's like this!
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>>5934545
but lets stop, I am sick of arguing and trying to play my own personal pity party here. I think I realize that my life will just always be worse than everyone's so I am done even trying to get some of you to stop being stuck up pricks.
>>
... i did a thing with a thing in my thing.
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>>5934536
Kayla, you're a girl. Once you get the last of those facial hairs burnt out, no one you meet IRL will doubt it. Confidence isn't easy, but you should have some. You look great, and you'll look even better as you get over your fear of the world.
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>>5934548
I don't think I ever want to meet someone from here in person again. Last time I did all they did was brag about srs and I just can't stomach bragging anymore.
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>>5934551
Go on...
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Tfw just a lonely boy...
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>>5934555
I'm a fucking monster, no part of me looks feminine in any way. Actually before I even start this back up I am just going to leave and play some old games. I need to stay away from here so bad.
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>>5934549
I'm probably the last person you want to be a snarky cunt to.

Youre being dicks b/c you're dismissing everything said... Because (oh, it's Kayla) when she's at a pivotal point in transition most trans girls hit when they have their epiphany of (I need independence, I'm ready to be percieved as female now b/c boymode is failing)
And she has a solid plan that doesn't rely on other people giving her jobs/feeling sorry for her.

>>5934556
Nigga, I'm not trans derived of flamy self centered boy.

I want a fucking female friend with similar interests who doesn't see trans women as advanced gay men.

We'll see where you're at by the end of summer.
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>>5934563
Agreed. Good luck.
>>
>mfw starting hormones at 26
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>>5934536
So stop posting your insane meltdowns here you dumb fuck.
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>>5934559
Well.. he obviously thought of just dropping cawfee and high tailing it. Told me to give him a hug cause hes not rude. Groped my butt and well... i ended up bent over my couch o.o
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>>5934553
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>tfw daddy starts supporting my transition

Guess being a good girl pays off in the end.
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are people really this dumb lol
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>>5934571
You could be starting in your 30s. L-lol.

It'll be tougher than had you started sooner, but if you put some work (and money) into it, things should go well for you. Ten years ago, starting at that age was considered quite early. Don't let bitter memes get you down.
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>>5934559
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>>5934576
Jealous. Way to go!
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>>5934589
>tfw I started at 29, 3+ years hrt, ffs and still look like a manly man
>>
>>5934589
On the other side even though it's pretty young compared to the average
But the average late transitioner is also pretty unpassing

>>5934571
26 is still ok, but don't waste any more time than necessary
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>>5934597
Meh, HRT doesn't make everyone passable. Just be happy with as far as you have come.

Its more important to live life and be happy than to focus on being a girl and looking like one.
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>tfw your clit is red raw and your arm is worn out but you still haven't orgasmed
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>>5934601
>just be ok with not looking like a girl
Seriously!?
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>>5934603
Well there's more to life than your transition.
Too many trans girls focus their entire lives about it.

Chris Chan isn't passable but I'm sure he's pretty happy with whatever he is.
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>>5934559
>>5934592
It was quite thick. Its been a couple months, agh ;_;
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>>5934605
Ok if you say so.
Like why even transition if you can't pass

What is this hon logic
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>>5934607
Ahh! Very happy for you.

Think the boy will be back? Want him to be?
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>>5934597
Angie, you're very pretty. I haven't known you as long as you've known yourself but I only see a girl in your pictures.
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>>5934602
>clit
>arm worn out
you have a huge throbbing male dick, not a clit. get over it.
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>>5934612
Eh, i dont have expectations. Wrap it, pack it, send it on its way.

If he does i guess that speaks for itself :p
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>>5934609
>me a hon
>:)
Anyhow, think of Conchita, not passable with his beard but going on to follow his dreams and to do activities in public. Whats better, being a star or hiding in your bedroom all day until you realize you won't look 100% like a woman?
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>>5934618
>Conchita
He literally only started doing drag because it pays
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>>5934618
Conchita is a drag queen who only dresses up for performances

But if you're not ok with being a guy and you're trans that's a big difference
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>>5934619
If he shaved he'd be more passable than most of us in this thread
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>>5934619
The only major reason to go through that bullshit.

Its rediculous!
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>>5934613
>girl

>>5934618
Not a good example
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>>5934576
>>5934607
>tfw no one to bring you coffee and wiener
Who is this guy?

>>5934581
I want that haircut.

>>5934588
wut?

>>5934591
lol at that little pouty face when all the markers fall out
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>>5934618
You're using Conchita as an example of why people should be happy about not passing?
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>>5934609
I guess you can be happy with appearing more feminine even if you no one actually thinks you look like a woman.

Just be careful about gaining weight while on E. A lot of middle aged transitioners end up looking like a pile of dough because they just want the pills to do all the work. Strength training and cardio would be a very good idea.
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>>5934627
>>5934625
>>5934621
>>5934619
regardless of him being a drag queen vs trans

would you prefer to stay in your bedroom and hoping that you'll never be clocked?

or go out to parties, bars, family events, hang out in public

Its silly to stay inside your room all day in hopes you are 100% female one day. What if that never happens? Thats a good possibility for tons of trans girls. So just stay in your room for the rest of your life?
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>>5934633
>this

Drag circuit and transitioning are night and day. I know some trans who do drag well, but drag fucks up someone who decides theyre trans once they're in the circuit.
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>>5934633
you missed the point entirely

people shouldn't focus all of their energy into passing and their transition

its all of our hopes that we'd look like a girl but that's not what we'll all end up

if you don't end up passable, then what?
you can't waste your life away
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>>5934639
Hon logic
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>>5934636
I do agree with this whole heartedly. Waitin to be a 10 when youre a damn fine 7 is wasting your life as much as never transitioning at all.
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>>5934636
No, but not passing won't make me happy in the long run
If you fail to pass you'll never be seen as a full woman
Even when people accept you there will always be a "But ..."
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>>5934629

maybe read that chat again, closely.
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I just realize that my mom told me she was going to help me with transition and accept me just because I was about to suicide at that moment.
Now she is totally homophobic again and literally dont want to see me too happy because thats gay and I have always been a depressive pile of shit
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>>5934646
So what do you do if you aren't passable and won't ever be passable in the way you want?

Suicide?
Detransition?

no, deal with the cards youre dealt.
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>mfw i started at 26 and i'm 27 in a couple of weeks and the only people that gender me male are the only ones that know
>mfw i have no face
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>>5934629
A random off my instagram.
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>>5934616
But I got my "huge throbbing male dick" removed. So it's less huge, throbbing, male and dick like and more clit like.

Not all of us a pre/non-op, hon. :)
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>>5934636
>Staying forever in boymode because you'll never get registered as a woman in anyone's eyes
That's not nearly as bad as you're wording it, but I understand exactly what you're saying about not living because they can't live as a woman.
At 25 I've come to accept I'm a man, even if I'm a failure of one. There's no reason I can't keep doing what I'm doing and try to turn my life around though. Meanwhile I'm still trying to transition. If shit works it works. If it doesn't, I'll keep going and I can confidently say I'm trying, even if it's 9 years too late.
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>>5934636
Now you're shifting the goalposts. You said originally to just be happy about not passing.

You can always go out and try to live a better life, but that won't suddenly make you happy with not passing. Why take hrt at all with this logic, just be happy with how you were born?
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>>5934639
When you have a face like this, staying inside everyday ain't so bad
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>>5934653
Idk, i'm not in the position the think about that
I'll get ffs in august and hope to be absolutely passable with that
But if i had no chance to pass i'd probably kill myself
Doesn't go for others though, i'm just radical in my own view

But how i said i could never be happy if i was totally unpassing
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>>5934662
I'm saying that you shouldn't spend all of your energy on trying to be passable. There are more things than transitioning in life.

Too many people drop everything they liked to do to just transition. They worry about being non-passable so don't go out anymore. I just wish people would be able to transition while being PEOPLE instead of hiding in their bedrooms and hoping to be passable. Theres just so much more to life than being passable. If you don't pass, then you don't pass, that doesn't mean hide in your bedroom and avoid the public the rest of your life.
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>>5934665
>implying you aren't passable
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>>5934674
>If you don't pass, then you don't pass, that doesn't mean hide in your bedroom and avoid the public the rest of your life.
Ok hon
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>>5934674
top kek bro
use that argument on people who live in conservative countries and would risk their very lives following your advice
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>>5934665
Literally BDD
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>>5934678
>>5934681
>implying I pass

I just know how to take decent pics
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>>5934665
Wanna trade faces then?
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Have we boxed up all the hugs for a bit now? Its a never ending topic.
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How is everyone?
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>>5934679
>>5934680
fine, end up like kayla

>>5934682
Well in that pic you look like a girl in every way but I know that lots of camera tricks can make it look that way. I still think you look great.
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>>5934680
also, weak ass argument
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>>5934686
Sure we can do a face off

>>5934689
How about this?
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>>5934698
yep
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>>5934650
>tfw no replies
could i feel more alone than this?
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>>5934698
Do you know what a jpg is?
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>>5934701

what did you expect, this is a circlejerk between kids and autists
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>>5934688
Slowly coming to realize how frustrating and impenetrable my own self-consciousness must feel to my friends. Also bored and killing time.
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>>5934688
Fine. Spent the afternoon posing topless in front of the kind of camera I'll never be able to afford... I guess some will say I'm the last person that needs an ego boost, but it was a nice one.
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>>5934701
>>5934650
Don't let her prevent you from being happy.
Remember that our parents grew up with different standards, its only recent that there has been the giant growth of trans girls in the world

Don't try to force things on her as she'd resist it naturally, just explain the way you are doing things and how what you are makes you happier with yourself.
Theres a good chance she'll never accept you fully, but are you really going to base your entire life on what your mom says to/about you since starting your transition?
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>>5934704
Uh yeah
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I-is this a good way to communicate with cis scum, g-guys?
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>tfw your good start to the day is followed by losing power
>>5934398
It is very uplifting. I've been under a crushing amount of stress over this bullshit lately. And hopefully within 2 months, still have to get an exact date.
>>5934442
After I can cut back on how much money I sink in to my transition, I'm probably going to pick up a lower to build a 9mm AR. Or I might just buy another Rossi M92 but in .44 this time. I love lever guns so much anymore.
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>>5934720
I don't know if I'll part from my guns. I'm not supposed to keep them given my all new psychiatric history, and I could use the money, but...
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>>5934700
Fug :DDDD
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>>5934650
That's fucking frustrating. I would just want to throttle her and beg her to remember that this, what I'm doing, is about finally, maybe being able to be happy, or proud, or vital. Sorry your mom is being a shit.

What were you up to recently that set her off?
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>>5934711
Oh same.
>>5934713
Sounds fun. I need photography friends.

Oook sorry everyone
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>>5934718
what is this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1KHj8xeohs
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>>5934738
My landlord's being a faggot about the code to the front door.
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>>5934737
You on your way out from boredom? Have a good one!
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>>5934741
>SF 37.10B
>Tenant Harassment

:O

partying too hard
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>>5934745
Yeah, a court ruled that street access was a housing service, so...
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>>5934688
Pretty ok
I'm at my grandmas' home
It's super boring though
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>>5934751
is that an egg?
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>>5934753
Yep
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>>5934750
Except tenant harassment is a protection to the tenant. Does the landlord mean (4)?

I mean right there in the notice its arguable and could be dismissed because lessor is moron.
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>>5934751

just be happy your grandparents are still alive.
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>>5934757
How do you make an egg like this?
Beat juice?

It looks shell-less so im confused
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>>5934751
>>5934763
sorry, im just intrigued, it looks so colorful
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>>5934766
Looks like a regular ol pickled egg
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>>5934762
Yeah, my grandma here is pretty cool, my grandpa died when i was 3

My other grandparents live at my house and i get yelled at a lot
They're more the very conservative bigoted grandparents though

>>5934763
It's still in the shell
It's just white inside (except some color coming through)
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>>5934769
So pretty :O

I've only seen the yellowish green ones, never magenta ones
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>>5934761
No, I'm thinking of sending that to the landlord. The landlord's trying to argue that she doesn't have to give me the code to the door because reasons, but I'm telling her that she might go to jail, especially considering she's already been sued for street access before.
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>>5934778
Ahhhhh so you wrote that? Well done :)

Baring access to a tenant in a lease agreement is duuuuumb.
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>>5934784
I write a lot of things. It fills me with a visceral thrill.

(I say 'garage' code, but it's really just a door to the place on the street level)
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>>5934715
She just wants me to not kill myself while i still live in her house
And i have to act manlier while i live here
And we live in a shithole where i cant afford to live on my.own
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>>5934787
.... so can i have a should be attorney annnnd librarian as waifus?
Where is my accounting waifu?
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>>5934639
You don't seem to understand how dysphoria works
In the words of Adam Savage, failure is always an option
If being okay with not passing was as easy as flipping a switch in your brain, why would any of us pour effort, time and money into transitioning in the first place when we could "just be okay" with what we already have in life?
>if you don't end up passable then what?
Well in a lot of cases, suicide, it's unfortunate but it's true
You can't just switch off the dysphoria once you hit a certain point and say "oh well, this is good enough, I guess I'll decide not to be mentally ill anymore"
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>>5934797
>waifu
B-but you barely k-know me!! I'm just a disgusting AGP who wants to spitroast girls with her qt sub gf. It's really gross and fetishistic.
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>>5934801
I'm talking about those who take hormones for a long while and don't see themselves as passable as they'd like. I'm not saying to not transition, but I'm saying that you shouldn't make your entire life about your transition.
I know you can't switch off dysphoria and never implied you could. As i stated before, its about living your life without focusing it 100% on your transition. There are TONS of trans girls who never leave their homes after HRT due to stresses and worries and thats terrible. Kayla doesn't go out dressed up and shes a lot more passable than a lot of others here. Shes denying herself a social life by worrying about her passability.

My example with chris chan was that he isn't passable at all, but still is very socially active and is happier because of that
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>>5934808
>the reason this thread was named Domme addition.
You arent helping.
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>>5934811
>socially active


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>5934813
w-whoa...

I don't know anything about you. Are you in the mtfg discord?
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>>5934811
>chris chan
Chris chan isn't really trans most likely, he/she identifies as a male lesbian after all

There is a reason i hate going outside 2bh
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>>5934711
>Slowly coming to realize how frustrating and impenetrable my own self-consciousness must feel to my friends

>tfw already totally aware of it
>tfw it makes me even more self-loathing
I really just need to fucking neck myself already
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>>5934821
>>5934817
AHHHHH

>>5934821
Try it! see that its totally okay to be out as a girl!

Chris is def gross but even with all his haters hes a lot happier doing whatever the fuck it is hes doing. I don't know enough about him with the whole "trans" ideology but I know he's taken pics at a strip club with girls. Even if hes not passable, he had a fun night at a strip club

everyone here deserves a fun night at a strip club
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Who agp sissy fetish here
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>>5934832
Is this just very elaborate bait? In which case 8/10, well done.
>>
>go to agp thread
>people talking about "overcoming" and "suppressing" their "fetish"

How hard can you even be in denial?
>>
>Months of jumping between doctors, out of network doctor wants me to have 1 year RLE before starting HRT
>So far out of my actual network and the people at the support group say they're equally unhelpful
>Someone at the support group lets on that the HIV Clinic will start you on HRT and even use your insurance
>Call them, after five minutes an appointment is setup two weeks from now
>Mention before treatment they generally want you to talk to their mental health person once
>I mention I'm seeing a therapist and could get a letter
>She says to bring it in because it definitely wouldn't hurt

Talk about fucking painless. Holy shit, fuck hospital-associated clinics.
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>>5934842
Do any trans girls here get erections wearing panties and girl clothes?

Honest question
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>>5934848


Tilly your one of the best trolls we've had in ages but please go back to /pol/
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>>5934848
That would make going out in public really hard, wouldn't it?
Er... ignore the pun.
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>>5934838
I'm TruTrans

>>5934832
But maybe i don't want to go to a Strip Club
And don't worry i'll go fulltime pretty soon
Doesn't mean i have hardcore social anxiety which i have to deal with and it's not even trans related (ok, probably it was but now it's much deeper rooted)
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>>5934850
>>5934851
Well the people who just dress up as a fetish would.
>erections on HRT? bwahhhh? a rare shiny pokemon
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>>5934838
I wish.
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>>5934852
Well, maybe just walk around park dressed like a girl. See its not as bad as you'd ever worry. No one will call you a faggot, no one will attack you, no one will murder you. You'll just be seen as another person in public.
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>>5934848
I do actually. I hate myself
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>>5934848
Sometimes. Sexuality touches a lot of emotions and thought processes, and erections aren't always purely sexual. Really, AGP is based on the misogynistic notion that women are inherently "pure", asexual beings (hence the belief that AAP doesn't exist because """biological""" women can't possibly be fetishists right lmao girls don't even poop). Also the idea that female sexuality is inherently a predatory male-on-female relationship. Experiencing your gender identity through your sexuality does not disquallify you from being a woman.
>>
>tfw fell asleep in a gem and yume cuddle sandwhich
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>>5934862
>Implying I don't get screamed at and stared at angrily every time I go out in honmode
>Implying I haven't had violent threats made at me
>Implying there aren't people in this general who have been hospitalised or even have had life-changing injuries because of being seen as a hon
>Implying the murder rate for trans people in the USA isn't like 1 in 12 or something

Fuck off
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>>5934857

>erections on HRT? bwahhhh? a rare shiny pokemon

this is a rare occurrence?
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>>5934866
Just in the sense that think of a biological woman
Does she get wet from putting on panties?
Not likely

Its totally fine for a trans girl to get a boner when they're dressing up and feel sexy, but if they are only getting sexually excited at the clothing then its a bit different. Still not "wrong" or anything
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>>5934862
Is this the tilly I once drew a mspaint picture of with her cat?
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>>5934862
I wouldn't actually say noone will call me a faggot desu
Or harass me
Because i already get that

I'm not even the problem i'll gladly go fulltime when my shrink approves
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>>5934866
>tfw new anti-depressants give me a boner if I'm feeling too happy or relaxed
I can attest to the erections not being purely sexual thing. My serotonin levels are wonky now and I'm enjoying it.
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>>5934876
:o Sof-a-loaf, I haven't heard from you in ages!
I was looking for an old paint pic i had made too but not sure where its stored

How are you?
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>>5934874
I get boners with any clothes but it's not sexually exciting, just depressing. I never used to when I was young, it was after I'd spent high school avoiding so much as the thought of being a girl (after which point i did treat it as sexually exciting for a time but it was still depressing).

>>5934872
This too. Sugar pills.
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>>5934883
I'm excellent, how about yourself? It has certainly been a while!
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>>5934880
You're lucky antidepressants do a thing for you at all... I'm on two different ones and I'm still as depressed as ever.
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>>5934874
>Does she get wet from putting on panties?

If you believe women don't get turned on by putting on sexy underwear, you are at the very least naive, and probably sexist. Ciswomen also get to spend their whole lives living as and being seen as women, which takes away the aspect of novelty that tranwomen get.
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>>5934886
I haven't seen you post on /b/ in like a year :O
I've been okay-ish, nothing crazy

>>5934888
shush
>sexist
lol
I don't even....you're a troll right?

>>5934885
Its not that HRT stops boners, just severely reduces the chance of getting them. Compare the liklihood of getting a spontaneous hardon pre-HRT to post-HRT
>>
If I get orchi, will I stop getting erections? Will long enough on HRT stop them?

Gosh I just don't want them anymore.
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>tfw you go to a con and you don't find a chaser or a trap bf
whqat the fuck /v/ and /a/ have told me for the past 10 years that animecons are loaded with sluts, where the fuck were they
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>>5934872
You werent aware that you shit glitter and rainbows shoot out of your unicorn gt?
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>>5934900
I would also like to know. I still get them ocassionally and they physically hurt.
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>>5934900
You wouldn't stop the ability to get an erection
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>>5934895
Glad to hear it, and yeah I don't go on /b/ anymore, just here posting wise and browse r9k And /tv/ and /a/ with my gf
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>>5934895
I already had ED before HRT and i just can't get an errection
And if my body wants to it just hurts a lot
I actually feel better about not being able to get errections
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>>5934885

sugar injections

>>5934904

apparently not lol. my GT was literally diamonds when i was with faye. i didn't know that was a rare thing.
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>>5934895
I still get them all the time. Not spontaneous. But the ones I get when trying to wear girl cloths feel like spontaneous ones used to.

>>5934900
They haven't stopped for me with just hrt. I guess I might try an orchi but I'm sure that won't help either

Love this agp meme.
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>>5934905
they hurt O_O

oh.... oh my....

seriously mention that to your doc

>>5934912
I'd seen a pic of you and your gf (i didn't know she was the gf but assume its the same person, asian looking?) you looked super happy :D

How is school going?
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>>5934903
>tfw you go to a con and end up in a hotel room with a qt trap in a maid outfit
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>>5934922
Yep, that's her, and yeah we're both very happy now, I've never felt happier and more fulfilled actually, it's great
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>>5934903
isn't sophie's dad chasing you?
i wish he was chasing me ¡~¡
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>>5934900
My erections post orchi are more frequent, stiffer, and easier to maintain.
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>>5934926
Trip on sal
>>
>gee anon i'm proud of you
>Anon i love you no matter what
>play with what makes you feel comfortable anon

>things you wish you would have heard
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>>5934930
damn i've been caught
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>>5934927
Mine are harder to achieve but neverending

Like seriously they go on forever even after orgasming several times
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>>5934923
>tfw the cloud has our blowy joey video

>>5934926
maybe ill see him at animaine, but there's no fun in a consolation prize ;_;
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>>5934921
I'm not even AGP, I just don't want an erection when I think about cute boys in public.
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>>5934945
I'm not sure if I'm disturbed or aroused by the idea of some random Verizon employee monitoring the cloud and coming across those videos
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>>5934848
Used to?

Was a high tension scenario when I first started. Whether or not it was sexual, it was *new*. New things have a way of doing that. Trying on some lingerie for a sexy party did that, too.

gt is less responsive than penis was, usually, but it's not dead or anything.
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>>5934948
Lucky you.

I feel like I should just kill myself for being agp. Can't live as a guy but won't make it as a girl.
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>>5934867
good feel
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>>5934948
>I just don't want an erection when I think about cute boys in public.

this happened to me once. except i wasn't so much thinking about cute boys, and was thinking more about being passed around musclebears.
like sophie's dad...

>>5934945
pls can i have him if you're not that into him?
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Huh FFS make me prettier after all.

>FFS Forehead reconstruction, orbital rims
>Left was already one year on HRT.
>Both have relaxed eyes but Left was before brow training so my brow is squishing my eyes
>Chin wasn't touched but tongue training changed shape a little bit. Seriously make sure your tongue is idling in the right position!
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>>5934953
Can you explain AGP for me? Can't you be both trans and AGP at the same time?
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>>5934961
I don't know what it is. It's just awful.

Basically I must not be trans but I managed to convince myself I am.
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>>5934959
>Seriously make sure your tongue is idling in the right position!
is it meant to sit up in your palate?
>>
I want to become rich, and then make a trans "kickstarter".

Basically trans girls that have been disowned by family, can't afford HRT etc. will be funded.
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>>5934966
>palate
Yes. For me it was resting at the bottom all the time. It fucked my entire jaw/mouth.

My speech therapist noticed it 5 months ago.
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most of this semester has been a chain of excuses to waste time
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>>5934972
hypothetically, what would I google to make sure I'm doing this right?
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>>5934959

type I II or III?
I'll get mine in august, but I'll get much more done, because I got shekels!
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>>5934968
just do what i do and help trannies move to portland and get their lives together

i think its better than just handing out money

wait why do you need a kickstarter if you're already rich o.o
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>>5934959
Wow, that's a big difference
I feel like i didn't change too much from before transition to now
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>>5934968

that's actually one of my goals lol. NPO's aren't really that hard to establish if you have connections and credibility. just a lot of work.
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>>5934978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjMgVClyPA
this guy is an absolute zealot for it and he might take it to extremes in his theorizing, but the correct way he describes is definitely beneficial
>>
>>5934981
Who'll be your surgeon ?
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>>5934961
Ok let me try to actually explain it instead of being depressed

In my case I always thought I wanted to be a girl but I didn't act like it, wasn't very tru trans. I hit high school age and basically said "no more" and put all such thoughts out of my mind. After high school I couldn't keep it repressed any more and starting wearing girl clothes in private again. But now I found that I always got erections while doing so. Which was depressing but I thought "oh must be a fetish" and tried fapping it away. And over time I just couldn't take it anymore so I started taking hrt. Now it no longer leads to me fapping but it still gives me boners and its still very depressing. I can't really tuck because of it. And because I'm agp and not tru trans I don't really act girly either so I'll never pass in that regard (even though some friends say I look cis and very pretty now).

What's worse is that I used to like girls but dating girls depressed me and I was averse to doing sexual things. And now since being on hrt a bit i like guys more and have a bf but doing anything sexual with a guy feels gross because I have a penis so it feels gay.
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>>5934987
ty bb
<3
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>>5934959
WOAH WTF
your entire jaw got smaller, how?!?!?!
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>>5934972
wat
I thought that's just how it goes when it's relaxed
this is why I need general speech therapy before gender voice stuff goddamn
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>>5934961
AGP is, originally, one of exactly two types of trans women that exist in Ray Blanchard's transsexual typology. Per his typology, AGPs (autogynephiles) are straight (or bisexual with any more than token attraction to females) men whose sexual attraction is improperly targeted back at themselves, meaning that the woman their libido demands they possess...is them. The other type are gay men so desperate for dick that they try to look like women so they can get straight dick, too.

It's ridiculous, but self-hating and repressing trans girls on 4chan love to self-diagnose AGP, and /pol/'s happy to help.
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>>5934987
>Breathing conference
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>>5934987
>>5934978
This explain it in more detail.
http://claimingpower.com/how-to-make-long-face-shorter-without-surgery-using-facial-muscles/

>>5934981
I asked for III but I don't know at this point because I don't have any screws inside.

>>5934984
HRT is not everything. Everything was bad with my face because I was a loner so no social interaction at all between 13-20 y/o.
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>>5934990
Whoah Okay now I am seriously confused.

I also get a slight erection when putting on girl clothes, but at the same time I've always wanted to be a girl. When I was younger I was always extremely jealous of girls, and just like you, I tried hard to repress it but said fuck it after high school ended.

Does this mean I am trans or AGP?
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>>5934983
>>5934985
iiii like where this is going.

Ive been exchanging emails with my old business professor, she specializes in npo grants.
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>>5934998
post another pic
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>>5934983
>>5934985
Wow you should help me move to Portland. But seriously, I am very good with money. I'm definitely not joking and this is something I will accomplish in the future.
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>>5934988

Bart
might aswell post my proposal so people know what they can expect to pay :)
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>>5934999
I dunno. You're probably trans. I'm not. I'm just a freak show.
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>>5935003
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>>5934983
>I'm helping people by moving them to portland
Yea if they dont want to stealth ever and are okaywith paying out the ass for everything
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>>5935019
huh, not really a difference aside form longer hair and pierced ears and plucked eyebrows

this is after ffs? what did they even do?
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>>5935000

i've been planning it ever since leelah killed herself last year. just takes timeeee.

>>5935011

it's more about being good with other people's money, sociable, and passionate than it is being good with any money you have.
you basically need to appeal to a bunch of other people and convince them that they're valuable as is their contribution.
having money on your own is an ok start, but it's not nearly enough which is why most of these fail.
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>>5935019
how did your whole face get shorter?
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>>5935028
Are you legitimately blind or just being deceitful?
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>>5935038
he just closed his mouth more
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>>5935011
i know ur memeing but desu i would when possible
>>5935026
everything is pretty cheap here... the minimum wage in portland proper is 15$/h but the surrounding areas aren't

we also have no sales tax in the state, everything is cheaper just cus no sales tax.
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>>5935040
>he
Anon, rude
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>>5935039
its true, you know it is
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>>5935029
My issue is social connections. Because i dont want to be here..

Here though ive met with an owner of one of the larger lgbt nonprofits in the midwest. Dayton and Cinncinati are the central location for lgbt in the east. So you meet everyone.
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>>5934985
That sounds like a pretty good goal
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Hello who /low energy/
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>>5935039
This anon try to make me sad for like a month or so...
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>>5935049
i am EXTREMELY high energy
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>>5935014
kieferwinkel
lol

>>5935028
>>5935046
the forehead you fucking goon, look!
>>5934959

>>5935040
>he
classy
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>>5934987
ty bb
<3
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>>5935053
Where did the glasses go?
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>>5935054
hugboxing
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>>5935046
It's not even remotely true. She looks like a completely different person. And no I'm not comforting her, I'm being dead serious.
>>5935051
They're probably extremely bitter because of their own appearance.
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>>5935059
They probably need to be re super glued, they kept breaking while I was there >.<
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>>5935047

it's good to make connections girl! you try to maintain them as best you can. i just know everyone ever for one reason or another, so lol

>>5935048

you're a pretty good goal
p.s. i'm gonna text u rn
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>>5935014
Oh, when will you be there i'll have my ffs in august too
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>>5934991
>>5935057
i am confused

>>5935060
bitterness
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>>5935053
you're like 14
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>>5935049
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>>5935059
broken

god is dead
>>5935063
faye please fix these glasses bless this mess
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>>5935068
T-THANK YOU ANON

<333
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>>5935065

really? I will be there from 7th - 17th august, surgery Is on 9th.
you?
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I have a feeling I'm going to smile until I get cramps in my face today...
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>>5935066
so am I I was watching daredevil and just came back :?
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>>5935077
I'll have my surgery on 18th :(
I get a lot more done than you
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>>5934983
Youre a neet, you won't ever get a job in your life. you only look for sex and people to manipulate and drain their money.
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>>5935092
ur feet smell
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>>5935086
THE KIEFERWINKEL STRIKES AGAIN!

I just can't, that word is hilarious.

anyway, an additional lip and philtrum surgery is hardly "a lot more".

does anyone have a price quote on a Type III?

ffs-anon?
>>5934998
>I asked for III but I don't know at this point because I don't have any screws inside.
did you just ask for III or did you literally get quoted and pay for III? cause you should have got a III if you paid for it.
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>>5935096
can i smell ur feet?
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>>5935092
#NEETlife
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>>5935086

oh well too bad then :) would have been fun to suffer together.

Not that much more done imo, just the lip part and I don't want him to ruin my nose, that's why I go easy on the nose part. otherwise we get the same!
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>>5935105
yes
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>>5935080
eehs, no thanks
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>>5935107
So you're german too ?
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>>5935072
age?
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>>5935019
you look like your own sister
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>>5935116
no, she's one of these people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-1ik3S6Ct4
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>>5935120
19, 20 in 3 months
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>>5935127
when are you going to start hrt?
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>>5935122
That's ideal, I think. You still want to look like you belong in the same family, don't you? You want to look like you if you were born female. If FFS made you unrecognizable I think that'd be sad.

In this case it looks like her brother is fucking miserable. Which I guess was the case.
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>>5935130
never im a boy
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>>5935138
I know you're a boy, didn't make me wonder at all, why are you posting in MtFg if you aren't trans
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>>5935143
invading ur safe space
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>>5935143
Yume is a chaser.
>>
Yume is cute and I love him.
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I have a serious question. Is it possible to get a boyfriend who's not just doing it for sex?

Someone who will actually settle down and marry a trans girl, maybe even adopt kids?
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>>5935154
Sometimes
It's pretty rare though
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Hi friends :D
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>>5935086
woah, only 17k euros? what are you getting done? That's only 3x what I've already got saved and if I'm lucky all I'll need done are my brow, jaw and chin.
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>>5935099
III was in my proposal. I also paid for screws but after surgery he told me he used bone cement instead.
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>>5935154
look for a boy with a low sperm count
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>>5935157
don't speak for all trans girls
you're incorrect
>>5935154
absolutely
trans girls aren't focused on the sex,
crossdressers and chasers are
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>>5935158
hi carol!
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>>5935162
huh did he refund you? i thought type III was more than type I.
what did he quote you for a type III?
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>>5935163
so a boy on HRT then?
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>>5935164
>don't speak for all trans girls
>trans girls aren't focused on the sex,
???
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>>5935154
There was a documentary about some foreveralone fuckups who bought real-doll-tm just for sex purpose but after a while they developed relationship with it.

So maybe. Chaisers start with sex but stays for relationship given if they are lonely losers.
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>>5935116
I'm swiss

>>5935124
grrr
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>>5935180
marina is full of shit
you can get a trans girl if you find one and she likes you
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>>5935163
Why would I want that? I want to date a real man.
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>>5935172
He did not. 4900€
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If your voice passes, how long did it take you to go from male voice to female? How often and how much did you practice?
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>>5935198
post a vocaroo
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>>5935185
>boyfriend
>transgirl
I think you need to reread the question.
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>>5935210
go to gaygen
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>>5935206
Clyp.it/jgjr2g4g
In b4
>pitch is too high
>control ur resonance
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>>5935159
Brow, chin, nose, liplift and fat injections

>>5935164
>>5935185
What do you guys want ?
She asked if she can get a boyfriend who's not only into sex

>>5935184
oh, ok :)
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>>5935222
>Clyp.it/jgjr2g4g
good god
awful
nasally and bad
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So I had a good birthday yesterday. I got to spend it with my family and since my birthday fell on Easter everything was really cool. Both my favorite cousins were in from out of state too and I already have another trip planned for Seattle now. I just enjoy being with my awesome family. They maybe Christian nut jobs but whatever I love them.

Oh, I officially registered today to vote under my new name and for the Republican party so I can vote for Daddy.

Daddy is going to build a wall and deport the mudslims.
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>>5935225
No shit dude
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>>5935224

switzerland's fun tho, there's me and all other mtf's otherwise are 50+ years old hons!
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>>5934959
Tfw hrt made me more masculine
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>>5935228
just look up tutorials?
i have no clue, you're unnatural sounding and more fay than girl sounding which isn't good
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>>5935224
fuck that's actually not absolutely impossible
I meant I've only worked up a third of that in my entire life so far but tbf I've also not had a job as of yet
plus a 10k loan wouldn't be that had to acquire, right?

I know you're supposed to wait a couple of years on HRT first but let's be real, I need the jaw/chin done at the very least
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>>5935232
I mean ffs....fug
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>>5935232
fishing.jpg
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>>5935236
*hard to acquire
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>>5935231
I feel like it's this way everywhere except maybe america
I live in Bavaria, i haven't really met any other mtf around here
But i know there are lots of support groups filled with hons
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>>5935150
i luve u 2 maddie :3
>>5935198
idk

does the girl voice i use in public pass?
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>>5935232
lol you should see the hon that is me.

God I take a break from this place only coming back to shit post about getting 8 grand for my birthday and now I want to suck trumps dick and I find nothing has changed.

yes I know I need my hair cut and I will be getting that done this week most likely. I have to find a place I like and book it.
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>>5935245

so you went to munich for consultation too?
I don't know, I like bavaria, mainly because i had such a great experience there (mind me I have 0 self esteem):
I was in full boy mode, yet people gendered me 100% female in munich, and not just because their drunk, in restaurants I was pretty much forced to go to female restrooms. I was like what the hell I'm not even trying. felt good anyways. usually people just can't tell what I am.
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>>5935236
It's not too bad if you have a job desu
I'm only a year on e/ a bit longer on AAs though
But i'll be at 1 1/2 years then
And my jaw/chin and nose won't change that much so idc
But you should still wait till 1 year probably
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>>5935252
good god, whats up with your tits
they look like triangles
im fairly sure the one is out and nsfw

but its all just distracting from that face... im not going to put you down about that though
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>>5935255
Yep went to munich ...

I don't pass though
I mean sometimes i get stares/ get asked what i am/ get gendered female
But not consistently unfortunately :(

So, do you have skype?
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>>5935262
I am so much of a nerd I am a ps1 game character.

Also no nipple is showing and mtfs boob's can not be nsfw. I mean I maybe legal female but those tits are not female tits.
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>>5935238
>fishing
Anon pls
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>>5935266
its not a good thing
you need ffs to be passable if you can ever afford it
mtf breasts can be nsfw
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>>5935252
How long have you been taking testosterone?
You look great! I'd have never guessed you used to be a girl.
There is a gaygen thread, maybe you'd be more comfortable there. Congrats on the successful transition though!
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>>5935265

schau mal auf zeemaps, da findest du mich wenn du bei der kleinen schweiz schaust :)
sorry wäre dumm wenn ich hier mein skype poste, sag mir einfach ob dus findest
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>>5935232
Your teeth are qt!
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>>5935286
Nothing is. I still look the same.
Ffs is a meme
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>>5935273
honestly I don't want ffs

I thought long and hard about it and I figure I just need to lose weight and get my eye brows done more often. I mean I literally have the ability to tell my parents I want ffs and I can most likely get it, but I am fine with my face.

Also I don't have boobs I have cones so it is fine.

>>5935279
thanks but I can't really grow a beard like some guys can and my little guy is smaller than average for a transman. Sadly most of gaygen doesn't want to fuck me because most of them are beta baes who only want to be bottom.

picture related, it shows how many I am because I have a fire arm in my hand.
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>>5935280
Ok, gefunden :)
>>
Who here /femboy4lyfe/? I'm a failure so obviously I'm gonna leave for femgen. Who's coming with?
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>>5935289
Huh, well not everyone wants to be passable
You may need your HRT levels checked since you don't look feminine. No offense, just looking out for you!
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>>5935296
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>>5935293
I thought you had to at least pretty for /femgen. Or is that place just filled with ugly trannies in denial?
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>>5935296
yeah I am going to order more hrt off inhouse today or tomorrow. I can't get more hrt from a doctor until mid may so I am stuck to ordering online until then.

Yay me, but unlike the last time i ordered hrt online when i was 19 now I have my parents support so I can just get that shit shipped to my address and buy as much as I want.
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Remember to cry.
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hi melly
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>>5935307
anything over 2mg estrogen a day gets converted into testosterone/adrogen

don't overdose yourself on repackaged expired meds
>>
Still pretty confident chin, nose, and hair transplants will make me look normal. Might get some brow stuff done at the same time as nose, though. They're not terribly low, but I'd a little more eyebrow-eye distance would leave a lot more room for dramatic makeup, where now I need to be pretty sparing. Growing worried about two brow protrusions, too. They'd look cool if I was transitioning to a Capcom villain, but...

Can't I just wish my face better?
>>
>8 o'clock at night
>have to hoover the house

Ah ffs, its night
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>>5935312
Estrogen can't be converted to testosterone desu
That's chemically impossible
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>>5935308
No crying for me today. Only a smile.
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>>5935311
sup

I am about to go in a few, but I will talk to you later on. How are you doing btw?

>>5935312
I maybe a retard ass trump supporter but I know what you are saying is patently false.


thanks for playing.
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>>5935312
You can't think misinformation like that will find an audience here, can you?
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>>5935312
>anything over 2mg estrogen a day gets converted into testosterone/adrogen

It doesn't work like that. Testosterone can be converted to estrogen via aromatase but not the other way around.
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>>5935325
>>5935328
>>5935329
>>5935333

learn organic chemistry
>>
I once heard from someone who transitioned that they got worse at guitar during HRT.

Would transitioning really make me worse at playing guitar????
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>>5935325
Well, it is chemically possible but the human body has no pathway for that. It does for the reverse.
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>>5935337
>advice from a 40 year old hon
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>>5935324
also i have to do the washing up and crap

great. there goes my night.
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>>5935328
im rly good c:
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>>5935334
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=can+estrogen+be+converted+to+testosterone
here's your reply
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>>5935335
Nigga transition will make you worse at EVERYTHING.
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>>5935341
That's no advice, just a factoid from someone who has actually studied biochemistry and physiology.
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>>5935349
this, prepare to be retarded because women can't do anything useful
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>>5935335
Eh. The brain's workings really do change in a bunch of funky ways on HRT. They're not sugar pills, you know?

Still, I usually hear about language and mathematics-related problems. This is a first for guitar.
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>>5935354
i'll just join the rest of the thread in ignoring your stupid bullshit
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>>5935303
Oh. I'm a pretty boy. Sorry :/
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I AM SO TIRED
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>>5935334
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/testosterone-in-women/1

>Although testosterone can be converted to estradiol, the reverse does not happen.

You are so retarded that you are most likely a Bern victim.

>>5935345
that is awesome. I will talk to you later!

Whelp I have to go be productive and apply for more jobs or phone bank for trump by calling bernie supporter retards on the bernie phone bank.
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>>5935364
M A G A
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>>5935364
LEARN ABOUT AROMATICS AND STOP POSTING LINKS YOU DIDNT READ
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>>5935364
>phone bank for trump by calling bernie supporter retards on the bernie phone bank.

ROFL
>>5935359
me 2
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>>5935359
Pretty boy is still a far cry from a pretty girl. Sorry.
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>>5935374
no HRT and not transitioning
hes just a crossdresser
not even being rude, he said so earlier
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>>5935374
I know. But pretty is better than ugly

>>5935370
Wanna go toss a football and go down to the hardware store and buy lumber?
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>>5935359
>tfw handsome man
;-;
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>>5935379
Hrt and cute android boy clothes ftw
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Tfw manly man
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>>5935379
>>5935380
Ia m just bored and funposting. Best of luck in your endeavors.
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>>5935380
personally i really like carpentry
>>5935389
i need this shirt
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>>5935389
>>5935392
Ditto. Of course its a joke with me but fuck it
>>
People don't have a clue.
I'm
Sick and tired of this BDD meme
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>>5935286
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>>5935400
>believing that BDD isn't real
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>>5935401
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That was mean anon. Mean and funny.
>>
>>5935401
At lease she looks fem, I look manly as hell http://imgur.com/XBf4YH4

>>5935406
It isn't
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>>5935407
ok dude
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>>5935349
>>5935356
REEEEEEEEEEE but I really like playing guitar. It's my passion, man this sucks. I hope this doesn't actually happen.
>>
my gf just put a wig on me and made me cry from telling me how pretty i am
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>>5935335
i'm not noticeably worse at guitar
of course, i play classical guitar so it's pretty girly anyway
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>>5935407
It would if I took offense to it but I know gadget is my spirit animal
>>
pleb if you can read this but not skype pls respond
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>>5935417
I play electric guitar. Am I fucked? ;( Also can you describe how it makes you worse?
>>
>>5935420
I can't send any messages ;-;
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>>5935423
I wouldn't buy into it. HRT just makes you more sluggish is all.
>>5935335
There's been quite a few trips that played guitar seemingly fine. Anna, guitar, adri...
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>>5935418
So did you ask for the Furry Feminization Surgery?
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>>5935423
i can't describe if/how it made me worse because i'm still just as meh at guitar as i was before
of course, you're probably fucked
i don't know any lady guitarists
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>>5935435
Haha that is funny
But my ffs was really fms
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>tfw girlcrush likes to see you sweat by massively turning you on and teasing you

i-it's not f-fair.....
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>>5935420
I'm omw to you tho. My ic clinic fucjed me
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>>5935444
>tfw no degree in wizardry
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can someone explain the purpose of a 2-3-4 tree?
i can't think of a single legitimate reason to use one that makes it better than a binary tree
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>>5935453
Wizards aren't emo. You're more like a sorceress.
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>>5935410
Angie please. Are you ever legitimately misgendered in public? You pass, completely, in face. If you aren't passing it's because of voice, body, or mannerisms.
>>
my nipples are super had all the time is this a good sign or do I have cancer?
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>>5935461
I am not emo tho.
I am a run off the mill edgy teenager senpai
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>>5935461
>tfw youll never have the hip:waist ratio to cosplay turbosluts
how the fuck am i supposed to get my boipucci slammed like this?
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>>5935440
Honestly I think even the straightest of transgirls have fooled around with another transgirl at one point. Don't feel bad, we are all faggots at the end of the day.
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>>5935463
Ugly != passing

I still have very masculine traits in my face
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>>5935469
>Honestly I think even the straightest of transgirls have fooled around with another transgirl at one point

HA!
I WIN
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>>5935410
>>5935463
I feel like if anything it's simply how once people know they can't un-know. I would think moving would help that it's probably just people who've known you in the past Angie.
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>tramadol won't even work when I parachute it
Holy fuck I just want the misery to stop
>>5935464
You are cancer you disgusting tranny
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>>5935440
And I'm sure you enjoy it a lot. Mine comforts me and makes me feel beautiful. She's really changed me for the better.
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>>5935466
Run of the mill is like the definition of an emo, emo.
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>>5935464
if in doubt cancer desu
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>>5935478
awwwww
now I am sad
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>>5935473
That's the thing, no one knows about my past.
I'm moved to a new area and still people know
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>>5935474
Oh Hitler, you testosterone fueled tranny hating black reverse-tranny. When will you stop lurking with a bunch of mentally ill degenerates?
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>>5935469

>implying i feel bad fantasizing nonstop about ruining her
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>>5935468
Maybe you could use a full body suit.
Warning - guy on the right.

>>5935481
It's OK. You'll grow out of it eventually.
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>>5935485
Didn't know you moved. Did you move far? Or same state? idk what to say though like was just mentioning this with someone else yesterday your face def does pass at this point so idk what it is. I've had random clocking though as well if I am in a shitty mood though as well and haven't figured out what's the main tell so I know what you mean.
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>>5935493
I doubt that desu
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>>5935496
Same state
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>>5935489
Damn .... transbian

Well it has happened three times for me with other transgirls, but I did it with guys more so I guess i am more guy liking than girl liking.

fuck cisgirls though.
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>>5935497
Everyone grows out of their emo phase.
One day you just stop finding black mascara appropriate for every day make-up.
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>>5935502
You need to stop leaving your trip on
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>>5935488
This place is boring nowadays
I only come here when I'm high or bored now.
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>>5935505
>fuck cisgirls though.
Not sure if this keeps the correct implication given the context :P
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>>5935510
It really is. The large portion of trips that are leftover now are no fun. Disgusting, too.
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>>5935507
>One day you just stop finding black mascara appropriate

Id look dumb without tho
I did cut down on the black eyeliner, is that the right direction at least?
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>>5935502
:^)
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>>5935508
It doesn't really matter, they'll continue fishing for attention however they can because they are both attention hogs.
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>>5935514
As long as you don't look like a prostitute I guess it's okay.
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>>5935505

faye is the only trans girl i've ever felt this way about so idk what to tell u. i just like who i like.
maybe i caught the transbian bug... i must have got it from one of u....
>>
I'm getting pissed off with /pol/. They come to every board, lack empathy, spout bullshit and then when you try be logical with them, they start attacking you personally.

/pol/ is the new SJW.
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>>5935489
Wow, Edie, just wow.

You and Faye must have really hit it off. So aside from wanting to leave Faye an incoherent, twitching puddle of sexual satisfaction, what's new? How go plans for your move?
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>>5935334
I have, estrogen doesn't convert to testosterone
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>>5935524
Shut up you degenerate tranny.
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>>5935522
Oh. Wanted to thank you for a makeup tip. Silica microspheres really are great for loose powder. So much better than the rice powder I used. I did keep the crushed pearls in my mix, though...
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>>5935512
let me dispel this fiction once and for all that I find ciswomen sexual attractive. I know what exactly what i am attracted to and it are things that are not born with vaginas. The current state of the person doesn't matter as long as they were not born with a vagina. They can have one or planning on getting a vagina and it would not bother me or the future of this campaign.

>>5935522
so now that it is out in the open?

Well good for you Edie. Just don't rent a uhaul on the weekends because that is when they cost the most.
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>>5935538
>Just don't rent a uhaul on the weekends because that is when they cost the most.
my sides
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>>5935525
>tfw incoherent,twitching puddle of sexual tension after we just texted
>tfw thighs and panties are soaked just from absent mindidly grinding a pillow, and she didn't really even tell me exactly what she was going to do to me
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>>5935547
kill yourself dude
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>>5935547
that's sounds sexual
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>>5935547
Ugh. I'm so happy for the two of you I'm going to be sick. Shame you're not both in the same place, still.
>>
>>5935547
>40 year old army dude gets wet like a girl
barf
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>>5935538
>Just don't rent a uhaul on the weekends because that is when they cost the most.

D y i n g >.<
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>tfw u look like a late 20s lady who has her life and career on track but u sound like a long haul trucker who has spent his last paycheck on speed and hookers
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>>5935564
fix those eyebags fampai
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>>5935558
>>5935551
>>5935553
I just put my hand down there, I'm going to have to wash my blankets
>>
>>5935524
I suggest you try out safe spaces if you cant handle posts on a cambodian flute carving board

>>5935521
I am a prude. I dont think Id ever look like a prostitute ever.
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>>5935564
Better than the other way around, still...
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>>5935525

y-ya
um moving plans i guess are good! i'm gonna go see faye again in a few weeks which will be nice.
until then i'm just gonna be working a lot, then i'll be working a lot after. then i'll be moving by june.
i'm basically just in saving $$$ mode lately and enjoying talking to faye and such. i'm genuinely fairly happy with everything in my life.
how are things with you? what's new?

>>5935534

anytime girl! <3

>>5935538

TFW WE DISCUSSED UHAUL LESBIAN FEELS
THE WORST PART IS THAT I AM MOVING LOOOL. but to portland, so

>>5935547

that's cause you've been a very bad girl teasing me all week and bad girls don't get to know what's being done to them ahead of time ~___~
>>
>>5935545
>>5935545
>>5935545

I know it's early but here's the new thread for when you need it
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>>5935547
>tfw no precum
even before HRT I never had any, idk what the problem is
>>
>>5934734
>What were you up to recently that set her off?
She told me she was going to support me and accept me some weeks ago
She didnt supported me or accepted me at all, she kept telling me im a male and i will always be, there is no point on dressing like a girl or taking hormones and i should stop being a faggot
today i told her that i want to get a mirror because i like to take care of how i dress, and she went totally mad and crazy about it, telling me im a fucking male and i should just dress whatever i have and not care about how i look because male dont do that and that my dad hates me because he know how much of a faggot i am and he hates faggots and they both want me to leave the house soon
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>>5935576
Nothing too exciting. Have most of a new work wardrobe assembled, just short a couple skirts and belts to mimic the professional office-worker I'll be expected to be. It turns out that having giant calves means your can't have any tighter pants. My own move (in-city) is on track, although there were delays with the play. Some rewriting is on order, after we thought about results with our test audience.

Umm. Other than that bummed that all my friends were doing family Easter things, and it seems my own family is still a bit too uncomfortable to even invite me.
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>>5935571
Maybe it's time to come out of your shell.
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>>5935629
but I like the protection ;~;
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>>5935592
That's some really creatively defined support your mom has for you. That's really terrible, Anon, and I'm sorry you have to go through it. I hate to ask, but is escape an option? Do you have any place else you can be, or a way to establish such a place?
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>>5935580
I really appreciate the way starting new threads early instantly kills the old threads.

Alright. Time to fill it.
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why is my face breaking out so much??
i thought less testosterone would make me have less acne, not more

i mean i really only transitioned as an acne cure so what was even the point huh?
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>>5935710
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>>5935722
how long ago did you start?
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>>5935722
That's a pretty stupid reason to transition. Are you properly removing all cosmetics and applying appropriate skin care?
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>>5935646
she probably just said that because i was about to kill myself.
escape is an option, but a bad one, i will be able to pay just few months (if somebody is willing to rent to somebody who doesnt have a job), and getting a job wont allow me to pay a rent either.
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>>5935722
aw fuck it a new thread wadafug no one will see my woes

>>5935740
uh like a week and a half

>>5935750
hehhh not really... im often victim of my own laziness
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>>5935751
So, no friends in a position to put you up, or to move in with? Ugh. Who *is* on your side, and where on Earth are you trapped? God, trans teens need to stop getting shit on...
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>>5935773
So between not being on HRT for long, and bad skin care, I think we've found the real culprit.
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>>5935773
>uh like a week and a half
hrt makes you break out initially in some cases, the body realizes T levels drop and starts to pump out more and more. should be gone in another 2-4 weeks.
the effect has a name as well I think, but I cant remember
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Stupid Robin and her stupid pre-posting threads.
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>>5935783
I had no acne before HRT and 6 months in I started to break out :(

>whats good skincare like
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>>5935783
yeah.... sorry i just used my dumb problem as an excuse to talk to strangers online :(

>>5935803
oh well thats promising, ty
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>>5935774
i guess i have nobody, im on south america
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>>5935812
>oh well thats promising, ty
youre welcome <3
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>>5935812
As a stranger online, that's cool. It's a common problem, and there's really nothing for it but to make it a habit.

How are you doing otherwise?
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>tfw no qt cis domme to make me her maid.

Why live?
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>>5935820
Wow. I am so sorry. Have this picture of a cute kitten and all my sympathy; you've got your work cut out for you, and I don't think there'll be any guarantees.

Have you spoken with any local lgbt (and trans) advocacy or support groups?
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>>5935867
Because sometimes you have to not be asleep, regrettably.
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There. Thread is dead.
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>>5935887
>Have you spoken with any local lgbt (and trans) advocacy or support groups?
yes, all they can do is to get me therapists/endo that are willing to help trans people (since most therapists will try to cure your gayness out) but they are expensive. and they also have parents willing to help other parents and they have reunions every week but its full of weirdos
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>>5933895
can you repost that unsee

i was busying getting shot today
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