/mtfg/ - Trans girl general

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i look pretty today

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First for no cis body

>>5802913
desu just shitposting with someone while cuddling would be p great.
>>5802921
i know im pretty sure thats what made me think of it lmao
>>5802924
>who /selfhate/ and want to stop?
me desu senpai

>>5802944
my hip to shoulder ratio is too low. worst thing about body, knowing i can't alter it. not the bone structure anyway

>>5802942
oh god it's amazing

>>5802924
i hate myself and i glory in it
nothing bad has ever come from my self-hatred and i hope to hate myself forever

nth for talking about boys (and girls).
http://strawpoll.me/6951851/

>>5802956
pls no hugbox

>tfw no cummies

Another gig tonight. -_- Wish me luck

>>5802914
Cause they are awesome, how is that not normal?

I just got to yesterday and part of me still wants to play with one again.

>>5802961
tl;dr

>>5802944
the tattooed one is trans

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self hate is all i know though. also, i think it's gotten better?
>>5802965
you've seen me multiple times today. how is anyone not more passing than me?

>>5802961
>no little or no attraction before options

>>5802977
pls no hugbox
(im shitposting dude play along come on)

>>5802974
She looks like me

>>5802971
Good luck fampai

>>5802944
body is one thing I'm overall happy with myself.

>>5802919 #
It wasn't planned, she found a letter from my insurance which said i'm in therapy
Then she asked why and i said i'm not ready to tell her
She insisted but i didn't tell
So she asked if i want a sex change
So i stood up and got into my room

She followed me and said i should tell her everything now, but i couldn't really

She seems supportive but she was also like "are you sure that's what you need and that's not a phase"

And now i just feel realy bad like things will never be the same ...

>>5802960
Has any good come of it?

>tfw you look in the mirror and see a girl for a few moments
Is there any better feeling than this? (also a handy way to confirm to yourself you are, indeed, a degenerate who wants to be a girl)

>>5802961
even after reading all that, i didn't find anything that accurately described my experiences with sexual attraction
does this make me a snowflake?

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>>5802924
>Learning to love yourself edition
>tfw your post basically becomes an OP

i've made it, gg

>>5802956
how amazing? by what factor is it more amazing than qwerty? and don't pull numbers from the wiki because i'm reading that right now

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I miss her
Every day without her still is so empty
Why did I do what I did
It was all my fault

last day before fallout 4 season pass goes up in prix

>>5802992
i get that sometimes when i get home

as my eyes are still adjusting to the dim light inside and i look in the mirror. hides some of my masculine features and makes me feel good

>>5802983
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>>5802994
i use the home row a lot bh. it helped me take notes faster as well. i just really like it.

>>5802987
Thank youuu.

>>5803006
pls no hugbox
(THANK U ok dont tell anyone babe ok ; ))

>>5802990
getting therapy
losing weight
making friends
doing schoolwork
... for starters

>>5802978
I wanted to add more, but 30 was straw poll's limit.

>>5802924
>love myself
I'm 3 days into anti depressants that give me hot flashes and morning wood.

But I feel human and my anxiety is gone.

>time to check levels

>>5802988
I know it's hard now, but this is really great in the long run. I'm really happy for you.

>>5802988
I don't know your mom or what relationship you have with your family.

For me it was weird at first. Especially when I started openly presenting female but everyone got use to it.

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>mfw alive

>>5803000
plenty of trannies in the sea
its time to go!

>tfw you will always be a broad shouldered hon with a very evident dude face

>>5803020
>But I feel human
what's that like, by the way?
from what i remember it's pretty icky

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>>5802994
Between anon, you, and the general mood, it was an obvious choice. Besides, I'm pretty self hating over some things, unfortunately.

>tfw gender identity disordered
>have long debate with therapist about nature of transgenderism
>settle on it being a discrepancy between brain and body
>brain is female dimorphised prenatally, body is masculinised bc of XY
>can't change neurological structures
>also can't change biological structures
>HRT is damaging because of being XY
>not taking HRT is damaging because of dysphoria
>end up thinking about judging people by personality vs appearance
>homosexuality is neurologically similar to GID
>what if homosexuality and GID are just different degrees of the same thing
>manifestation of cross sex behaviours
>liking men is objectively feminine
>trans people express more feminine behaviours and feelings than gays
>have a correspondingly more feminized brain
>come to the conclusion that just because my brain is feminine doesn't mean I have to destroy my body to match it
>accept masculine body and feminine brain as both being true
>don't transition and just be a really girly guy
well I guess blanchard was right after all, /femgen/ is where I belong.
does my logic seem alright? I wish I could be a grill but it's biologically impossible and attempting to do so causes damage to my body, such as increased cancer risk, heart problems, osteoporosis, etc

what the fuck am I supposed to do

reposting here cause /fmg/ is slow as shit

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>>5803006
>home row
fucking pleb why don't you appreciate the upper or lower rows

i might pick it up tho if i ever get bored desu

>>5803035
don't be, please... i'm sorry you feel that way about yourself elanna, you're better than you think you are

>>5803046
you do you senpai, i ain't gonna stop you

>>5803021
Yeah, i hope

>>5803022
I think it's super weird
And i can't even think of starting presenting
But i also can't think about not doing it
Like now that she knows i want to be a woman but i still behave and dress like before is also strange

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>tfw you will always be a broad shouldered hon with a very evident dude face

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>>5802924
>watch Sophie and cheska's camwhoring stream yesterday
>Sophie is passing and pretty
>Cheska is passing and soft and squishy and cute
>iwn be any of those

>>5802784
didn't you detrans?

>>5803046
The only people who definitely should transition are those who want to be treated like women, if you're ok with being treated like a man who acts like a woman, then don't do it.

>>5803059
For me it was:
"Do it gradually. Wear a necklaces. Transparent nail paint. Dress more faggy."

But you already look female so just start presenting as such.

>>5803046
>accept masculine body and feminine brain as both being true
if you can do that then that's great for you. but do ask yourself if you are happy with your masculine body and the way it ages. if you think that you are and that it won't interfere with your daily life and that transitioning won't help you then move on and live your life as a girly guy i guess.

>>5802805
Thanks
I needed that

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>>5803035
>>5802924
iktf

even when things get a lot better for you that self hatred doesnt just disappear

Its not anywhere near as bad, but its still there, lurking

>>5803046
if that honestly makes you happy go for it

otherwise dont

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>>5803046
>HRT is damaging because of being XY
eh?

>come to the conclusion that just because my brain is feminine doesn't mean I have to destroy my body to match it
but "you" are your brain, not your body, that's the whole reason homosexuality and GID exist

Why am I attracted to trans girls?

It's pain.

Almost without exception, trans girls know what it is to grow up feeling ostracized, marginalized and unwanted. They know what it's like to struggle to establish an identity and find their place in the world in the face of overwhelming pressure from parents and peers. Although I've become a very happy person in my late twenties, as a former lonely nerd who was physically and verbally abused as a boy, I find it much easier to relate to other people who have had to fight for their happiness.

It's not like there aren't cis girls who experience this too, but with trans girls I feel that an aspect of it is captured specifically in the sexual act, because it involves accepting, as a natural and healthy part of them, something that has long been a source of a lifetime of shame and feeling 'wrong', and here you come and say, I love it and I love you and I love it as part of you. I don't have any physical part of me like that, but there are elements of my personality and interests that have been shamed throughout my life, and I understand that finding someone who loves the parts of you that most people hate is very important.

>>5803010
yes box
>>5803050
>moving your fingers

>>5803070
Yeah i would
But i just start an traineeship tomorrow and i can't just go there like
Hey whats up i'm a woman

Also i don't pass at all why you pass so flawless
And i think you're on hormones for less time than me

>>5803079
fuck off

>>5803081
what is your wpm like

>>5803079
>why am i attracted to trans girls
>heres why im attracted to transgirls

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pls respond

>>5803096
ill be ur gf bb ;))))
*unzips dick*

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>>5803055
but I wanna transition and be a girl and just ignore all of the risks and inconstancies and scary things

I want to do what's healthy in the long run, and idk if not transitioning might be more harmful than transitioning in terms of suicide rate, but looking at the data transitioning and srs don't change the suicide rate anyway. so not transitioning might be healthier because it doesn't come with a ton of health risks.

I also think it's weird asking society to collaborate with a disorder that defies reality, and in my experience when someone genders me female I feel like I'm deceiving them despite how good it makes me feel

>>5803072
I'm not happy with it either way though. If I don't transition then I'll have a slightly more masculine body than if I do, cause I already have an andro body type. If I do transition, I feel like it would throw a sharper light onto the things that are more masculine while also making it painfully obvious that I cannot change my body as I would want, and to try would just be a pitiful attempt

>>5803075
neither of the options make me happy, if I stay male then I'm sad I'm not a grill, but if I go full tranny I'll be sad because of my deteriorating health while still not being truly female

>>5803078
yeah but my brain relies on my body for existence, and keeping it in good shape is thus in my best interest

>>5803096
ask your mom, noob

>>5803050
>mentally unstable
>impulsive junkie
>closed off and very untrusting
>permanently damaged self image
>alternating attention seeking hypersexuality and depression
There's an awful lot here to dislike. Could be worse I guess, but I'm pretty damn flawed.

>>5803075
>tfw it disappeared for a few years but lurked below the surface waiting for a moment where I'm weak
>tfw it starts to weasel its way back into your day to day life
Dealing with this again is pretty far from my idea of fun.

>>5803100
hi

>>5803089
lol idk

>>5803102
>deteriorating health
I dont think you understand hormone replacement therapy very well

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>>5803100

>>5803110
go test it on typeracer or something.

>>5803046
no i am there with you

except i don't want to age as a dude so that's why i take whoremoans

>>5803107
sup' ladies. names slim shady. Im the lead singer of d12 baby
>>5803117
pls no

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>>5803081
>not moving your fingers

>>5803102
>yeah but my brain relies on my body for existence, and keeping it in good shape is thus in my best interest
ok but what is HRT going to do to your body? your organs and endocrine systems and shit aren't going to fail, you're just going to get smaller testicles and softer skin and bobs and fat redistribution

just do the thing and roll with it and be happy/happier

>>5803105
flawed maybe, but not unlikeable by any means... you're still a very cool person who deserves someone good

>>5803083
3 years and for work I still present male (although extremely faggy one). Asked my co-worker at office party when drunk, he told me that everyone knows and that it's extremely obvious and that it's hard to him use he/his when referring to me.

Still I wont budge. ;_;

>>5803023
dudeeee Ricky same same same sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wow hohhohoho ahHAHA

>>5803125
>implying fat redistribution is a thing

>implying HRT works at all

>>5803126
Those poor, poor people.

>>5803128
?

>>5803134
>poor people.
why?

>>5803126
Ok, you're much longer on hrt

But really you're like the best passing person here
Don't understand why you don't just girlmode at work when everybody already know

>>5803111
>highly increased risk of cancers
>dvt
>heart disease
>giving a male body estrogen
>expecting things to go well

>>5803121
I don't either, but I honestly would rather make it to 50 as a feminine faggot than die before thirty chasing the dragon of GID

>>5803125
my provider was super clear about the risks, those all sound great and I am currently on HRT, I'm just not sure if it's actually safe enough.

I wish tumbrtrans wasn't being accepted so much because it fucks up things for real trans people. instead of seeking alternative treatments to transitioning and surgery, people are pushing the narrative that being trans actually isn't a problem despite the very obvious facts to the contrary.

>>5803102
what data did you see that says the suicide rates don't change? that's not general consensus. also do you feel suicidal or do you feel like you would be suicidal if you transitioned? these studies really only are used to show the general effectiveness of the treatment. they aren't there to influence your decision making.
hrt isn't as unhealthy as you think.
why do you have this all or nothing mentality btw? sometimes treatments are only meant to better your life not make it perfect.

>>5803128
shut up you fucking retard

>>5803143
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

>why do you have this all or nothing mentality btw?
borderline personality disorder

>>5803141
If I would officially present as a girl at work then my female co-workers would destroy me. They look so so much better than me in so many ways.

They would laugh and gossip the shit out of me.
Now I'm just a faggot to them which is cool.

I want to fuck a transsexual and slap him hard across the face from the missionary position as he reaches a screaming orgasm while knowing the violence is consensual and I am only hitting a man.

>>5803125
I'm unlikeable to myself, sucks but that's the overriding feeling that I'm unable to shake. I appreciate the kind words though bexe, thank you ;~;

>>5803142
>heart disease
>dvt
>massively increased risk of cancers
You need to stop getting your info on HRT from old people on Susan's.

>>5803157
Good for you!

>>5803158
that's what my endocrinologist said m8

>>5803156
shutup you look fantastic

mood swings are so retarded
like, the lows are bad enough, but equally dumb are the highs where my brain is like "whoo everything's awesome I should just come out right now on facebook even though it'd be terribly inopportune until I'm living independently in a few months"
gotta give myself a reality check

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>mom just got me a sweater dress
>look like a linebacker in it
guess I am going to have to starve myself so my arms get smaller

>>5803139
How would you feel if you had to spend 8 hours per day with someone so clearly unhinged?

>>5803158
I think you're cool as well elanna. It's hard to internalize those feelings sometimes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome

Also is something that I have a little of but I'm slowly learning to overcome those feelings.

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>>5803142
at least you recognise that tumblr is a problem, keep going with that

the risks of HRT are fairly congruent with the risks of just being a female who has higher estrogen and lower T than a male - namely a higher risk of breast cancer and thrombosis, because having bobs and having estrogen

plus the whole liver load thing which only really impacts drinking and tylenol and stuff

>>5803158
elanna pls you're cool and interesting

you did make this OP after all so like, learn to love yourself :^)

>>5803172
Yikes you really don't wear that well

>>5803172
Looks like a brick made of shit.
Now fuck off Eliot.

>>5803162
They're legally required to tell you the risks, and a large number of these risks are taken from studies of estrogen administered to postmenopausal natal women, and even then they're not that common. The risks are extremely low, especially when you're young.

>>5803171
>whoo everything's awesome i should just come out right now
i did that when i was really fucked up desu ut ended up being a good idea

>>5803176
I went on progesterone for 3 months and all my upper body muscles came back and I gained 20 pounds. I quit it 3 weeks ago and started a new diet and cardio plan so I hope I can lose the arm muscle again.

>>5803172
That's something that probably needs leggings or a skirt with it Kayla. Also add in a belt though and I think you'd be good.

>>5803185
Yea that's understandable I guess, just don't wear things that are so tight on your arms like that

>>5803156
You don't look different than the average female desu
Maybe it's just in your head

>>5803172
That's really short

>>5803102
Well I'll blogpost for a bit and tell you what I think
I have severe social anxiety. I can't do a five-minute presentation WITH time to prepare without xanax. I'm a cold, emotionless bitch robot who doesn't want to make friends.
I'm transitioning in that I consider estrogen/antiandrogens to be treatment for dysphoria and accept whatever side effects they may have. I have no idea what my life has already done to my body because I've been beaten and broken and drugged to the gills since about 2000. My mental health is a sick joke and I used to be violently unstable. I'll probably be crippled later in life or die early because of various injuries sustained playing sports. I have done absolutely nothing to alter my appearance or behavior since beginning hrt; I wear loose-fitting t-shirts and pants or shorts.
One day, I'm going to catch up to me and probably explode catastrophically but for now, I'm just trying to live my life as comfortably as possible and if that requires stuffing my face with hormones and prescription amphetamines and benzos, I'm 100% game

>>5803172
looks like maddie

>>5803172
i agree with kari.

not as bad as you'd think, just needs more along with.

>>5803164
Maybe for western standard. You have no idea how average girl look in Poland.

>>5803185
>progesterone gives you back muscle
dude what
is this a thing

>>5803185
>>5803191
Didn't notice the arms. It's not end of the world but like anon said avoid stuff that hugs the skin tight like that. How do you just gain muscle mass without working out? Makes no sense that it's only the prog.

>>5803158
>youll never squeeze elannas undeserved sadness out of her

bad feel

>>5803194
>You don't look different than the average female desu

Women have been getting more and more beautiful every year. Would suck massively to compare and realize you'll never be a 8-10/10

>>5803194
>That's really short
I have really long legs is why every dress looks too short on me

>>5803191
that's why I never wear long sleeves, I lost the muscle before though so I will do it again, just a matter of fasting and eating veggies

>>5803206
group hug?

>>5803198
I just woke up no bully

>>5803203
No lying gives you back muscles. This is Kayla remember.

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>sitting in the bus
>get 'ma'am'd
>heart still going doki-doki
Who /passed once ever/, lads?

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>>5803172
Good God kayla your legs look fantastic. We can starve ourself together.

>>5803200
I know how the average girl here in germany looks and while lots are really pretty you're not too bad yourself
Can't be so much different in poland

>>5803200
yeah the west is fat as fuck desu

i could stand to lose a good 15 lbs too

>>5803203
my doctor said it was a risk and I flat out said "fuck man you should have told me"

>>5803205
>How do you just gain muscle mass without working out? Makes no sense that it's only the prog.
Well I don't lift anything anymore so it had to be the progesterone.

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>>5803175
>plus the whole liver load
eh I do injections and might get an orchi down the road so I'm not too scared of that

as for the HRT risks, if that's true then what I might just settle on is taking HRT and still present male, until late forties obviously when I would stop estrogen, analogous to post-menopause

>>5803181
cool, that's great. I'm not gonna be young forever tho, and that's what scares me. HRT may be fine when I'm in my twenties, but into my thirties and forties it gets riskier and riskier. Hell, not to mention I'm also working against bulimia, and the fact my parents raised me vegetarian, so I haven't eaten meat for all of my 22 years. I've been thinking about introducing it, idk if I could handle it
>sorry for the rant

>>5803196
that's a terrible mindset to have tho. I have some shitty medical history, but that drives me harder to fight to be healthier despite it being uncomfortable. I don't want to steal happiness from future me and spend it in the present, where I haven't done anything to earn it.

your mindset is literally boomer as fuck, do what feels good and fuck the future.

>>5803203
progesterone is literally a discount testosterone, bro

>>5803203
Yeah I have had nothing.

>>5803211
Group hug!

>>5803152
>. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment
>A recent systematic review and meta-analysis concluded that approximately 80% reported subjective improvement in terms of gender dysphoria, quality of life, and psychological symptoms, but also that there are studies reporting high psychiatric morbidity and suicide rates after sex reassignment.[19] The authors concluded though that the evidence base for sex reassignment “is of very low quality due to the serious methodological limitations of included studies.”
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/table/pone-0016885-t002/
your study doesn't say what you think it does. though the cancer thing does seem to be true.

all or nothing is a defeatist attitude if you use it as an excuse to not do what's best for you.

>>5803172
you need a belt because whatever the fuck you're doing with your bra is making your boobs look like they're in your neck, which doesn't work on your long torso

>get rid of some of my body hair
>notice over the next month it doesn't really come back
Am I true trans now?

>>5803173
I'm pretty likeable at my office.

>>5803226
ive been on it for like 3 years and dont have any so idk sry fambroni
>>5803230
ayy

>>5803222
you look 100% cis, I hate you

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I did it.

I got this place more or less clean. I still need to clean out fridge, and probably get a rug doctor, but...it's done.

Now all I need is a drivers license and some therapy.

>>5803172
Your room makes me so sad

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>>5803228
>until late forties obviously when I would stop estrogen, analogous to post-menopause
>wanting to voluntarily accelerate aging

>>5803233
I'm not wearing a bra in that pic

>>5803246
Yea it does, it doesn't really seem like she's living there, she needs to put things in it

>>5803232
to add to the graph
> In line with the increased mortality from suicide, sex-reassigned individuals were also at a higher risk for suicide attempts, though this was not statistically significant for the time period 1989–2003
and to talk about cardiovascular disease and cancer
>Mortality due to cardiovascular disease was moderately increased among the sex-reassigned, whereas the numerically increased risk for malignancies was borderline statistically significant. The malignancies were lung cancer (N=3), tongue cancer (N=1), pharyngeal cancer (N=1), pancreas cancer (N=1), liver cancer (N=1), and unknown origin (N=1).
N is the number of subjects.

>>5803228
>your mindset is literally boomer as fuck, do what feels good and fuck the future.
To be fair, most of what feels good to me isn't inherently unhealthy
I don't run around drinking and smoking or doing drugs, I just don't have much faith in the future

>>5803209
Attractive women are getting hotter every year, but in the free world obsitity levels are raising every year, and women in general are getting grosser

>>5803246
desu it's that if anything that makes me believe what she says about her mother, what sensible parent wouldn't at least give their child proper lighting in their room?

Girls Kayla is making fun of us again

>>5803246
I actually think it's kind of nice but I'm ocd about being tidy

>>5803172
WAIST TRAINING. NOW.

>>5803174
Thanks kari, but holy shit, why have I not heard of impostor syndrome before? This describes me painfully well, unfortunately.

How have you been coping with it?

>>5803175
Thanks bexe. Maybe I should listen to my own advice for once.

>>5803206
>tfw no amount of squeezing will ever remove the sadness, but still appreciate that beepbeep cares enough to try and wish that she could
;~;

>>5803228
You're also fine into your 30s and 40s. The risks become greater once you hit your 50s, and at that point going off HRT will be just like going through menopause

I just want to make sure you understand how well tolerated HRT actually is. You're describing inevitable ailing health, and it just plain doesn't do that. You're shifting your hormone levels to female levels, not IVing meth.

>>5803266
When the child in question is a 26 year old manchild the parents really can't be blamed.

>>5803253
Kayla, you have come tits dear, don't start lying

if someone doesn't cuddle me im going to be very sad desu

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>>5803246
>>5803255
I can't afford furniture so where can I put anything? Plus mom tells me she is kicking me out every other day so I keep my things in Rubbermaid boxes in my closet.

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>>5803269

>>5803267
It probably hurts beacuse it's a man doing it.

>>5803264

Says the boy in an passing mtf's body whos too lazy to practice her voice.

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>>5803223
I don't know you are aware, but we have this stupid meme in Poland that German women are like the ugliest creatures.

>tfw 4 years on HRT
>tfw still having a hank hill butt

>>5803281
with cones like that she could easily get a job with caltrans division of maintenance

too obscure?

>>5803267
No i'm not. You may think I don't like you but I think you are an inspiration.

my sister just told me shes gay lol

fucking dyke lmao

>>5803288
;~; I don't understand, why would you glue all that stuff to your ceiling and make it such a mess

>>5803243
>We can do something together
>I hate you

Typical Kayla

>>5803308
wincest

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>>5803172
Hi Kayla,

It's not quite as bad as you seem to think. A lot of your issue with that is how you're wearing it. What is that posture? Chest up! Shoulders back! Rotate arms out a bit!

< See this picture? See how different the girl's posture is on the right vs. the guy's on the left? You're at like a halfway point between the two.

Practise, practise! You'll be fine. Starving yourself isn't the answer; fixing the way you carry yourself is.

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>>5803232
nah, I didn't say srs makes things worse, it's just that it my mind for it to be an effective treatment for GID it would have to bring the suicide rates in line with the general population instead of merely bringing it down a little bit. Also, trannies are gonna say they're satisfied even if they aren't because it's such a gigantic surgery telling people you're satisfied could assuage the pain of not being satisfied with a surgery that is purely cosmetic. It's like smiling to fix depression, it doesn't work and it doesn't make things better but people fucking do it to hide the pain because then they don't have to confront it

>>5803252
>wanting to continue estrogen past when even biological women would have ceased
>thinking that's a good idea

>>5803263
oh, my bad. I misinterpreted how you phrased things. That's still not the best ideology but so long as you aren't making things worse then I guess it's better than nothing. It's the first part of DBT, which I've had to do cause of borderline pd, but it's actually really helpful outside of just that

>>5803278
>IV meth
fuck do people really do that? IV heroin is good but IV meth just sounds fucking terrible for health and it sounds like a shitty anxious high

anyway, that's not what I was lead to believe by my provider, but it's nice to hear something that makes sense. Hormonal levels are still in natural ranges, and seeing as female biology is the default starting point it can't be super duper bad. idk, I'll bring it up next time with my doc

>>5803299
>tfw half austrian
dodged a fucking bullet there holy shit, thank you based family for not being from doucheland

>>5803278
Basically finding out about that diagnosis from my doctor and slowly trying to get better about like, being able to like, think of how far I've come, it's part of why I keep a timeline. Another thing is keeping a journal really helped when I remembered to keep up on it. It allows you to look back and see where your thoughts were and how far you've come instead of just relying on the jumble of mess that is your memory of your feelings.

IDK why it's not more commonly known especially with estimated 2/5 prevalence. It's really shitty though cause even when I'm doing great and making huge strides in my life sometimes I just can't even attribute any of that to myself and it just leaves me feeling horrible. Like I said it's getting better but not perfect. Anti-depressants have helped some as well.

>>5803288
Hi Australia

>>5803299
Yeah, those exist
But the average girl my age seems more like a swedish model
Lots of girls are taller than me and super slender with a face like an angel

Those on your pictures are mostly old, unemployed and alcoholics

If gender is a social construct why do you need to get hormones/surgery/wear a dress to be a woman

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>>5803300

>>5803327
*sucks ur dick*

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someone pls clean my room i am a mess

>>5803327
it's not a social construct
society is a biological construct

>>5803309
Just fuck 4chan
And fuck you
It's still a mess

>>5803327
Nobody here thinks gender is a social construct.

>>>/TERF/

i want to suck off a chaser with a big fat dick with my lipstick on

>>5803293
https://clyp.it/gbwdw3eh
>>5803287
You look like you live in a third world country, my room in Iraq was better furnished

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>>5803319
>implying everything the human body does is necessarily the exact most beneficial thing for it to do at any given point in time

enjoy your hot flashes and osteoporosis :^)

>>5803278
please love yourself

>>5803327
that's a pretty big if, senpai

>>5803341
trip on kayla

>>5803332


Get a bf and that will motivate you to not be a slob.

>>5803324
I know Marina I lived in Berlin for a year. Would love to move there but I don't know the damn language.

>>5803346
i don't have a trip

>>5803327
Money is a social construct, why do you need a job (or Obamabux)

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>>5803342
>https://clyp.it/gbwdw3eh

How do people react when they see that voice coming out of your body?

>>5803332
Nice setup but messy yeah. I really need to clean up mine as well though so can't really say anything ^^

>>5803332
All your stuff is going to fall sideways
>>5803334
I wouldn't mind tidying it for you, something about an untidy room causes me physical pain

>>5803287
i thought you said you had an apartment in santa monica or wherever that you were moving into soon?

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>>5803332
look at mine im disgusting and should probably kill myself

everyone feel better in comparison

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>>5803309
>>5803322

>>5803344
>enjoy your hot flashes and osteoporosis :^)
I'll enjoy it a lot more than you're gonna enjoy your breast cancer, prostate cancer, cancer metastasising, and dying a painful death due to rectal cancer from being so butt blasted that you're wrong on the internet

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>>5803302
HI. happened upon your 'musclegirl' recipe, Im pretty curious about that stuff.
There was a talk of making hormones-gen and I'm fully supporting it, otherwise it all gets lost and pastebins are all old/standard meds.

>>5803319
>nah, I didn't say srs makes things worse, it's just that it my mind for it to be an effective treatment for GID it would have to bring the suicide rates in line with the general population instead of merely bringing it down a little bit.
and i told you that that study isn't talking about that so if you have data that supports you feel free to post it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/table/pone-0016885-t002/
actually this graph tells me that the suicide rate is closer to the general population post 1989 than to the trans people pre 1989.

>>5803361
>ywn drink horse urine straight from the source
why live

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>>5803358
>tfw tiny cramped room

>>5803366
many things

>>5803332
>>5803358
>>5803288
Room like those would give me room dysphoria.
Girls your room dose not pass!

>>5803358

Are you from the 90s?

>>5803327
Feeling that your body is wrong isn't a social construct. Expressing femininity by wearing a dress definitely is.

>>5803322
I'm glad that you're getting better, but yeah, with a prevalence like that I'm really surprised I havn't heard of it. Seems like the kind of thing that can really fuck you up if untreated ;_;

>>5803319
<pharmacology>
Meth is commonly consumed by smoking, which is actually an even more rapid and intense method of administration. IV meth likely feels similar but isn't common because why bother when you can smoke it?
</pharmacology>
But yes, that's definitely a good idea to bring it up with your doctor again. It's also important to remember that even endocrinologists don't have any set standards when it comes to this stuff, some of them legitimately don't know what they're doing. Sex hormones are surprisingly poorly studied in TS patients, and sometimes it doesn't hurt to get a second opinion from a different endo.

>>5803373
why

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>>5803354

https://clyp.it/r5wtyslw

>>5803358
oh my goodness please clean that. mine is dirty but not from my cum tissues being everywhere.

>>5803358
dj and drug addict?

my room is terribad too, worst part is I live in a place where dust gathers in just few days no matter what, it's depressing

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>>5803379

>>5803349
Oh, that possible
German is hard but not impossible
Also berlin is pretty international so it's no problem to speak english a lot

>>5803356
I don't feel like tidying

>>5803375
I know my room is too tidy for a real girls room

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>>5803381
(You)

>>5803364
>actually this graph tells me that the suicide rate is closer to the general population post 1989 than to the trans people pre 1989.
well sheeyit, I just kinda skimmed the report. I'm more used to linguistic papers and not medical ones, so I probably just misunderstood stuff
ty anon :3

>>5803377
>Sex hormones are surprisingly poorly studied in TS patients
fuuuck that pisses me off the most, there are very few trans studies out there and the cultural marxists pushing for widespread acceptance of any and all gender bs from legit GID to ponyqueer demifaggots trivializes our condition, and inhibits medical studies because people aren't going to study something they don't think is a problem

>>5803375
my sister's room is more masculine than mine tbqh

>>5803382
they're not cum tissues

>>5803379
legit laughed

>>5803381
don't pick on elanna

>>5803379
lol you sound like one 40y/o dude in my gaming TS
pretty hot desu

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>>5803342

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Does anyone know any online pharmacies that are legit, sell micronised progesterone, AND ship to Canada?

ADC is legit and sells progesterone, but doesn't ship to Canada.
IHP is legit and sells progesterone, but doesn't ship to Canada.
QHI is legit and ships to Canada, but doesn't sell progesterone.

QHI once replied to an inquiry saying that they could 'acquire' progesterone if I wanted, but every inquiry since then has had them saying they can't do that. >_<

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top 10 /mtfg/ tricks for sleeping for days at a time to completely disassociate from everything?

I know u guys got tips, and no I'm not going to use benzos to sleep for days that's a bad idea.

>>5803379
came instantly

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>>5803373
with those colours and patterns that's clearly an 80's aesthetic

>>5803379
faye you're great

>>5803360
>not getting breast cancer
are you even cis?

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>tfw male cheekbones

>>5803403
Settle down hongie.

>>5803342
>You look like you live in a third world country
stop picking on me for being poor
fuck

>>5803318
yeah, no, its my muscle and the fact I gained 20 pounds since thanksgiving so once that's gone I will be better off, then all I need is more electro and extensions

>>5803388
Hence I was able to live there for a year. But it was really hard to make meaningful friendship with natives.

>>5803401
Only ways I've done it were Xanaxing out for days or when I could only lucid dream for like a year after taking a trial pack of Ambien.

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>>5803403
No

>>5803409
ño :D

>>5803379
I have the weirdest boner rn

>>5803379

Now do your best female voice.

>>5803411
At least you got tits right?

>>5803377
Thanks ^^ Good luck though I really hope that can help in some way.

>>5803411
ill trade cheekbones

>>5803423
That was my best female voice
>>5803414
I'm sorry ._. It's just I feel bad because the jacket I bought last night costs more then everything here combined

>>5803416
That's always hard in germany especially in big cities
I'll probably move to berlin for college if i'm good enough

>>5803424
i'd rather pass.

all the more reason to get a surgeon to take a belt sander to my face. :^)

>>5803379
solid snake/10
faye pls talk dirty to me. say my name pls.

>>5803423
her gf will probs kill her

>>5803361
sorry i was making a snack aha
my musclegirl recipe?
you mean using a GnRH as an anti-androgen so that the androgen receptors are free for Ligandrol?

ayyyyy

>>5803432
>That was my best female voice

Then record your bestest-best female voice.

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more of my shit room

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>>5803428
OK, I'll post yuri instead then ^^

>>5803436
I don't know about that. A lot of people here are not satisfied with the polish. You're pretty as it is.

>>5803031
I can walk into stores and ignore the stares without anxiety?

Although the whole active dick thing freaks me out. I want to slice it off if it doesn't settle

>>5803411
I didn't realise cheekbones were a big thing in terms of passing

>>5803319
>I misinterpreted how you phrased things
Most problems I have start with this
>dbt
I hope that helped you
I have difficulty dealing with therapists so I don't think there's much to be done about me being me
Anyway, I hope everyone has a nice day and has fun with whatever it is they do

>>5803448
nty i'd rather pay money cause im a stupid goy.

>>5803454
i hate hate hate my cheekbones though.

>>5803464
theres a hole under the patch

>>5803450
http://unfuckyourhabitat.tumblr.com/

Being a crazy tranny can't excuse that mess.

>>5803450
depression the room

>>5803401
shrug
I just chat, read 4chinks all night, eat lots of sweets, take baths and then sleep all day for ~12 hrs
when I wake up I remember that I have nothing to do and my dreams are better than waking life and I doze off back

benzos and antihistamines make you sleepy but they have too many negative effects, only take them when Im having hypomania and cant sleep for more than 4-5 hrs

>>5803454
to say i'm not satisfied with the Polish is an understatement.

i'm absolutely fucking furious that they managed to get away with stealing so much land from Germany, especially after starting WWII off by persecuting ethnic Germans in the "Polish" corridor

>>5803444
oops i was trip off then
but yeah
get T H I C K

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>post skype on /soc/
>guy adds me
>accept while im eating lunch at college
>turns out he's the guy sitting next to me
Holy butts that was such an insane coincidence. Thankfully he seems pretty cool so far but when we realize we were sitting next to each other I ran away. My anxiety and 2shy complex got too strong and I just needed to go breathe very far away lol.

>>5803462
Why tho? They looked OK. Unless something changed.

>>5803450
post guitars pls

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>>5803476

Why didn't you take him to the bathroom and suck him off?

>>5803472
Yeah not funny.

>>5803471
tfw I can't hibernate

>>5803482
its a mexican strat, a jc mascis squire jazzmaster, and some cheap acoustic guitar i got for when i was 13

>>5803478
i don't like them. they make my face look square.

>>5802988
you should be glad I guess, that's actually a lot easier to deal with then taking the steps to come out yourself... at least that's how I felt when my dad asked me.

Yay Circé hangouts
>>5803476
Nice

>>5803492
j mascis* don't know why I did that

>>5803489
I wasn't joking. I cried so much watching The Greatest Story Never Told

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS_bVyvasZo

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>>5803476
Cute as fuck, but holy damn what a coincidence

>>5803476
Are you home now? That was scary though earlier!

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I just took too pieces of white bread, a slice of 2% american cheese, and slathered ketchup in between. I am out of control.

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>>5803487
I'm still trying to not feel so anxious about all of this, I'm not doing that!!
>>5803505
I started blushing so hard I couldn't even handle it. ><
And yeah it was just like, I don't know the chance of that had to be insanely small.

>>5803517
dude that shit would make the bread all soggy, what the FUCK are you doing?

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>>5803518
it was meant to be

>>5803518

Did you answer in a thread for people around the same city/country/state etc?

Was he handsome?

>>5803491
I believe its easier to sleep during the day, cause you get hormones release in the morning which wakes you up, fucking hate this cortisol shit

all you faggots need to rise up

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>>5803523
I got flat out addicted to ketchup because taking the T blocker flushes all my salts out and I crave salty stuff.

>>5803545
I'll make something of yours rise up fag

>>5803545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNHjBpsh0KQ

thanks mtfg
i cried into my porridge
you ruined my snack

>>5803551
go drink cum fag lmao

obligatory 'then why are you so salty'

>>5803551
It's not too late to find a salt source that isn't almost pure sugar.

>>5803518
Go get him, you may have just hit the jackpot if you have chemistry.

>>5803562
I would love to and I have had offers but I don't want an std.

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>>5803551
but ketchup is loaded with sugar not salt

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>>5803513
I know right? It could have been so much worse omg
>>5803528
I-i don't know about love but I feel like my prayer for an IRL friend just got answered.
>>5803532
It was the shut-in thread oddly enough lol, I only mentioned I live in Illinois and when we started talking about colleges I said where I go and we had this OH CRAP moment
>Was he handsome?
He could use some work, he said he's let himself go because of depression so maybe I can get him to work out and turn him into a handsome fellow
>>5803564
>Go get him, you may have just hit the jackpot if you have chemistry.
Well idk about that like I said he could use some work so I'm not really attracted to him at the moment...

i would have stayed closeted for the reich

what empty and miserable life is this, that our jewish manipulators have convinced us to live?

>>5803379
i want you to fuck me until i can't breathe anymore

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>>5803375

My decorations have always been a weird mix of Dragons, cute statues, and starships. Right now, there are many ponies

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;)

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>>5803570
Fair enough, but with all the blushing you made it out to be something a bit more than potential friendship.

>>5803566
Not the kind I buy.

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>>5803375
show us ur room then you trannier than thou poster

>>5803558
>estrogen makes you cry even over hitler

>she doesn't have a mental illness tier room
agp desu

>>5803551
300mg spiro daily will do that to you

>>5803606
at least my T is zero

>>5803608
worth it

>>5803437
https://clyp.it/f24zdqrq

I...s this ok o.o

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Am I still welcome here? :(

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>not living in your parents basement
wtftbh

>>5803616
If you have to ask, no probably not.

>>5803606
>300mg spiro

My doctor gave told me to take 100mg spiro for each day. Is she trying to tell that my T levels arent that high or fucking with me by prescribing a low level?

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>tfw taking my dose 6 hours late
I completely forgot to have my lunch time dose because of how crazy today's been. I need to get like a pill container I can load up and take on the go just in case.
>>5803586
It was more embarrassment like oh my god this guy is right here and he's gonna see me in person oh gosh this is so sudden. Today really wasn't a day I wanted people seeing me, I look bad even for being a guy right now, but he said he didn't mind.
>>5803622
>parents move out of their house into a smaller home that needs to fit 2 more kids
>they build me a room in the basement
>cold but I get the most privacy
Basement life is great but I wanna live upstairs so I can see the sun every once in a while lol.

>>5803608
shit i totally forgot to get a printout for last months' blood test today

>>5803626
the first month is to make sure you don't die and also to see how far your levels drop

>>5803634
i go out a lot plus basement has windows

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>>5803596
i was crying over the demise of my fuhrer and subjugation of my fatherland long before starting hrt.

i only quit the act and came out after realising i was subjecting myself to hell for what greater good? i was sacrificing my sense of self for what, to belong to the progressive's favourite scapegoat demograph?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQr2hnf1aU

>>5803626
100mg is the most common amount to start with. Most people end up taking 200mg eventually. 300mg is above average, but your doc may prescribe it if they feel it necessary after monitoring how the meds are affecting you. Might also not need to go above 100mg.

>>5803623
;_;

>>5803638
>the first month

Its been five months.

Maybe its just that my T-levels aren't that high since pre-HRT i didn't have a full beard like kayla, didn't have terminal hair around my cheeks and throat(unlike kayla). But 100mg a day feels sooo insufficient.

tfw ur a girl


:)

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To make today even more crazy I also seem to be making friends with a guy in my English class. He seems pretty nice, I just wish I could shampoo his hair. :T A lot of guys in my classes need me to fix them up a bit.
>>5803640
Yeah I have like 2 windows but I miss out on comfy stuff like the sound of rain tapping on the roof :c
>>5803650
>But 100mg a day feels sooo insufficient.
If your doc thinks it's good it probably is. You should talk to them about your concerns but you might really only need 100mg.

>>5803650
get a print of your blood test results, although it's good you seemed to have low T before HRT

spiro a shit but it can work

I want to order a kebab but all the kebab places close in like 40 minutes and I feel like they'll not like last minute delivery orders. :(

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>>5803655
>tfw

>>5803650
My doctor prescribed me 100 a day, because my t level before starting was just above a female range anyway. So yea, that would make sense.

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>>5803655
>tfw not a girl but feel like one sometimes and thinking about transitioning but in a bigot home town where no one supports my decision

My sanity is splitting

>>5803642
I sometimes cry over how shitty humanity is or over some 'profound' stuff. dont know why but it gets me more than the usual self-pity

>>5803668
>because my t level before starting was just above a female range anyway.

So you didn't get a mustache after puberty?

>>5803669
i support your decision

>>5803677
I got peach fuzz when i was seventeen.

>>5803615
w-what do you want from me senpai ;_; i dont want to feel alone
>>5803626
most common is 200mg daily.
after 3 months of 100mg daily i was below average t levels ( for adult men :c ). i dont know what im at now.

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>>5803655
best feel

https://youtu.be/GJtSXqwobdw
>this is what people think of when you tell them you're transgender
kill me

one of you will eventually be my gf whether you like it or not

mark my words

>>5803673
yeah i mean, i find it hard to cry about my situation when i have a roof over my head and internet access. it's like, self-pity just devolves into self-hate and numbness. but it's also that there's still this feeling that one's own situation can be helped.

when you look at the plight of humanity as a whole, and are struck by how powerless you are to change any of it, what's left but to cry? not that one, artistically placed, sorrowful tear. full-on sniveling ugly-crying.

>>5803678
Thank you

>>5803687
ill do it
annd ill like it

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>>5803655
Soon...
>>5803684
>so what pronouns or tumblr stuff do you want me to call you? :)
>>5803687
If you're a hot dom I'm okay with this
>>5803681
I hope I get upped to 200 mg next appointment I have but idk if I actually need it lol

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>>5803655
>tfw u get momentary urges to kill yourself and just start over and hope you meet the same people along the way

>>5803692
where you at bitch

>>5803687
Someone is going to have to take one for the team if we're ever gonna get kayla out of here

>>5803687
Ominous desu~

>>5803687
kill urself

>>5803702
make me