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Previous thread >>5669325
Just got results from my genetic tests
>XXY
that explain so much...
>>5670489
Anyone that says they're trans, I don't really care.
>trying to create a Portland harem
Nigga I already got one. But yeah, that was the entire reason I wanted to make one >: - )
Do people still ever go to the dubtrack or is it just an artifact in the OP?
>>5670498
>tfw no local mtfg harem
what are you snacking on rn late night/early morning /mtfg/???
yume and I are eating chips and hummus in bed :3
I just wish I had a boyfriend to spank me desu
>>5670493
it should be a standard part of the trans diagnosis desu
>>5670502
start your own anon
take yumes pick up artist class
only $20 an hour
>>5670514
How exactly did she score you? What was said?
>>5670509
I was DIY for two years. Then legal hormones. I hat to wait additionally 6 months for the results.
Normally it would stop my female HRT since it's a genetic disorder and it's treated by testosterone here... But my doc is cool so he sees no problem to continue what I started.
>>5670517
"gibs me sat puss *puts fingers around my lips to look like pussy and starts licking* you know u want it girllllllllllllllllll ; - )"
In all honestly I was at a very low point in my life and try l at the time literally tried to do everything humanly possible to push her away and make her hate me without being malicious.
>>5670509
It was dropped because it was abused constantly as an excuse for onerous gatekeeping.
Also in the case of XXY, the normal treatment is t injections. It's not a fun thing to have people suggest lightly when you're already sure you're a girl.
>>5670523
Usually when I try to push people away when im not doing good it works. Grats.
>>5670517
its kind of a long story
I dont really want to share it in mtfg, but I love her more than I've ever loved anything and thats whats important
>>5670527
Usually I'm malicious when I try and push someone away but I couldn't do that to her, she's too moé
>>5670523
>l at the time literally tried to do everything humanly possible to push her away and make her hate me without being malicious.
I hate doing this... I'm very fortunate that it hasn't worked so far
>>5670485
I think this was discussed before, but there seems to be no trips in Melbourne or Adelaide.
>>5670535
Melburnian here
so what's the best body type to start hrt on
>>5670551
Whatever body you have now.
>>5670485
I'm sorry you haven't heard the news.
>spend last night contemplating suicide
>go to bed early
>wake up hours early
>currently feel like I'm going to throw up and there's something stuck in my eye
Shoulda just offed myself
>>5670557
...
...
Did she kill herself?
>>5670499
No one uses it anymore. Remove it in the next OP.
>>5670560
sheen raped her to death
is this the wrong thread or are we really this dead?
>>5670576
i don't fucking get it. we doubled poster count the other day but now we're more dead in the nights than ever.
>>5670578
well it is 3 am...
shit, it's 3 am, I gotta sleep.
>>5670576
We scared cool trips without any backup.
>tfw u have a bunch of trans friends irl
>tfw 80% of them are lame
Cissies are better desu
>>5670579
bruh its 4 a.m.
>>5670576
yeah what gives?
>>5670583
go home, mountain folk
>>5670579
Middle of the night used to be when the plug was most active some days.
>>5670578
everyone was driven away
>>5670580
Cool is my middle name and nothing here ain't gonna scare me.
>>5670486
How do I stop myself from spurting when my bf, teases me, holds me and kisses me?
>I've even had it happen in public :(
>>5670586
It was usually more active in the dead hours of the night than it was mid-day, really.
>>5670578
i never leave.
>>5670591
I kinda miss that. It's understandable though when it's a weekday but.. It just becomes a bit of a downer.
It feels like dumbass anons managed to whittle it down a lot.
>>5670596
Plug shutting down didn't help, either.
rip golden age
>>5670486
This seems like a particularly upbeat /mtfg/ tonight!
Nice!
>>5670588
QT
>>5670486
>Never stood a chance in this life edition
yet I still come here instead of just tying the noose
>Tfw went to lie by pool
>noticed how hairy my arms were in the sunlight
>>5670601
The plug crew disbanded very shortly after the switch to Dubtrack. The interface is worse and it's harder to idly hang out in since playlists don't loop. Nobody hung out there, and now I haven't talked to anyone from there besides NoajT and Nycteri in months.
>>5670614
that's not hairy at all though
>>5670613
>>5670614
>>5670593
Well maybe I spoke too soon...
>>5670613
if we weren't here together, what else would we have?
>>5670601
The thread is dying because half the people that post here use trips and get butthurt when people give them shit about it.
Like unless you are the nicest person you'll eventually come to be disliked by enough people who will never leave you alone. Posting anonymously you won't have all that hate. I can say dumb shit right now, but next post it's all wiped clean and it progresses conversation.
>>5670546
OH MY GOD!!!!
HEY!!!!!!
I thought I was all alone here >.<
>>5670624
I know who you are anon, dont think you can fucking hide. I know for a fact that in every threaad ever, there is always at least ONE post denouncing an aspect of the trip in discussion as "shit". I've been researching your patterns, I know your routine anon. Did you really think no one would find out? That you could go around and spread your malicious lies as you pleased? Well we know better now. And the next nice thread you move into, you're identity will get cracked.
>>5670621
Get your sick bag ready because we're zooming in close
>>5670624
I kind of enjoy being targeted by inane anon trolling. I'd miss that if I gave up my trip.
>>5670535
Im adelaide tho, moved from melb
>>5670535
>Tfw dubbo
anyone want to post their soles?
>>5670635
you wouldn't make an exception for me, bb?
>>5670638
me ;)
>>5670638
i do but theyre overposted
>>5670626
Yeah
there's so people here from Melbourne
they're all in Sydney or something
>>5670629
so what? that's mostly vellus hairs, barely any dark hairs.
I know cis women who have a lot more visible hairs than that.
>>5670629
My sister has hairier arms than you, faggot.
>>5670624
>>5670627
Nice try, but do you really think all of us don't already know you are the same person Anonymous? I figured it out a long time ago. "Anonymous" posts follow a very formulaic and easily identifiable algorithm. I know all posters posting under the name Anonymous on every single board on 4chan is really the work of one extremely introverted and desperate hon megabrain that is linked up to a giant network of servers so it can post it's /pol/lack propaghanda at an unfathomable rate that is impossible for any other one single entity.
Sorry but the jigs up. You'd best power down now.
>>5670643
never enough
>>5670650
b..but how? my plan was flawless. i played that perfectly.
jokes on you, yugi - i'm a tripfag.
>>5670640
well I met Shell so that's a lie, I happen to like your methods also
>>5670656
oh, baby. :') no but for real i'm sorting out passport shit at the moment then maybe i can figure out a day or something to chill before i take a plane.
>still too lazy to rename all my stolen frankus
whatever.
>>5670603
You just have to look at the trips that stayed to see what drove the rest away.
>>5670655
Kind of a separate issue that came later than what I'm talking about.
>>5670661
did i drive people away
>>5670652
k
>>5670659
as long as I have a day picked out a few weeks in advance I can organize to have it off
>>5670670
for sure, i'm still in early stages of planning my trip regardless.
>>5670669
Yup.
>>5670669
those arches tho
>>5670680
were they people i liked
>>5670638
For you <3
Guess people are right.
No one wants a tranny educator in the school system
>>5670692
your background is nobodys business and it doesn't hinder your teaching abilities.
>>5670700
Well the school saw me as very unprofessional
How do you girls get the motivation to dilate regularly?
>>5670692
It's hard to get teaching jobs regardless. Keep at it and keep your chin up.
>>5670702
well the school is full of dipshits for saying what you were teaching was 'above your abilities' in the first place and we both know that's bullshit.
>>5670703
I paid 10K for this cunt, why not take care of it?
>>5670634
Hey, I'm currently in Adelaide atm ;p
>>5670637
Ummmm... I'm sorry for your loss... ;~;
>>5670635
That's alright anon.
I get that, some people can turn out to be creepy in person.
I've had bad experiences myself >>5670397
you could always just skype and talk about living in Melbourne or something.
>>5670645
I know, they're all in Sydney and Perth basically.
Why can't they just be in the best cities in Australia
Someone from MTFG gave me advice to use POREfessional for my fucked up skin. The shit seems to be working like magic but it's crazy expensive.
Still no cis like skin ;_;
>>5670708
W o a h, visiting? I-it might be neat to meet a mtfg person
>>5670711
Why so mtfs often have large pores?
Does male puberty just fuck it up?
>>5670637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaDqx_ZYaY
>>5670708
>throwing chicken nuggets
I want a date like this, w-would you do this for me? I'd actually come meet up
>>5670711
>tfw your defition of cis skin
>>5670718
>that video again
slays me every time.
>>5670715
Acne, being overweight, genetics
But yeah mostly Acne. Fucking T.
>>5670721
>tfw 1 year hrt and proper skincare and i still have visible acne scars
>>5670721
>tfw never got acne
>tfw always had pretty good skin
>ugly manbeast so none of it means shit
>being a computer I will never die, I will never feel the sweet release of death
JUST
>>5670711
Yw. Primers are expensive but at least you only need a little bit. It's worth it!
>>5670713
http://www.news
.com.au/travel/australian-holidays/adelaide-voted-one-of-the-worlds-best-cities-for-2014/story-e6frfq89-1226748586855
>best city
>Adelaide
>~desuyo
>>5670714
I've got like 2 weeks left until I go back to melbourne for 3 months though ;-;
>>5670718
>throwing chicken nuggets
>I want a date like this, w-would you do this for me?
>I'd actually come meet up
but anon, I don't have this kinda fetish.
>though I've never tried to be on the throwing side before.
hmmm.... I'll "try" do it for you, if you're a cute anon
>>5670726
>being a computer I will never die, I will never feel the sweet release of death
i know the pain.
i also have freckles like crazy.
>>5670729
f u c k a d e l a i d e
>>5670729
>but anon, I don't have this kinda fetish.
it sounds fun, not in the context of your story though, but let the nuggie war commence
>>5670729
>if you're a cute anon
and that's where the fun ends >>5670726
I'm that trainwreck
>>5670726
jocelyn?
>>5670736
I'm not up to date with all this new age slang, what is a jocelyn?
>>5670708
Idk
Is Melbourne a good place for trans people?
>>5670731
>tfw no freckles
Freckles are so cute, I want them.
>>5670742
take them off my dead body. it won't be long now.
>>5670708
>you could always just skype and talk about living in Melbourne or something.
I completely missed that, sure. Lizbell90
>>5670745
where did you get this picture of me...?
>browsing 8ghtchan
>find a video just like sophies
>recognize that it's an anon from here
>mfw
>tfw short legs/long torso
>tfw never going to pass properly because of that no matter how well my face/boobs/everything else develops
>>5670755
You could probably hide that with long tops such as hoodies or dresses dumbass.
Working week over fuck yeah!
How was your week /mtfg/!? What are your plans for the weekend?
>>5670557
>>5670485
>>5670560
I'm perfectly alive and fine fampai.
>>5670759
>What are your plans for the weekend?
I'm working doubles the next three days. ;_;
>>5670731
Why?
What do you have against the best city in all of Australia.
>>5670733
It would be fun and we can go on a nuggie rampage together ;p
>>5670738
You can help us clean up the rampage.
>>5670741
I'm not sure, everyone's nice to me apart from lesbians getting shocked when I use boy voice.
>gf wants to play game
>you're too busy nuzzling her
>she says she knows what you need
>she sets up the pillows on the coach and lays me down
>she starts recreating you taking her virginity
>says the same things you said
>does the same things you did
>she looks up devilishly and says "I haven't gotten enough milk today"
>starts sucking breasts
>moves your panties aside and starts rubbing your perenium
>have a no genital orgasam
Best feel
>>5670768
I'm pretty sure I have you on Skype, what happened to tranny share house + gf?
>>5670764
Oh damn that sucks. At least you get weekend penalty rates though for maximum dollar.
>>5670776
Broke up.
Not a thing anymore.
>>5670779
Oh, I'm sorry it ended, but at least you won't be banned from /vg/ anymore.
When you say meet, where you living now?
>>5670772
just walk into the Swanston mcdonalds and buy 40 nuggets and get throwing >>5670745 was me by the way
>>5670772
Glad I don't live in a transphobic shithole then
>>5670789
Tasmania, at my parent's, but I can easily book flights so long as I have a place to stay.
>tfw you wake up at a normal time and could fix your sleep schedule but you wanna sleep
Help
>>5670812
get up retard
this is why i made it so i can't turn my phone alarm off without doing a math problem first
>>5670773
Thank you for the green text Faye Senpai
>>5670792
Oh sorry, I changed from my PC to mobile.
I couldn't see the (you) >.<
>>5670797
I think that's the dream for all of us tbdesune
>>5670815
that sounds like a good idea until i realize basic math is beyond my abilities.
>>5670815
But my eyes sting and my bed is so warm and nice.
>>5670816
yeah but still, I want to leave the country in the future
dunno where though
Not much to be happy about anymore
>>5670831
the blind never learn.
they just deteriorate.
haikus are so gay.
>>5670797
come down to the devils circle and say that, just try and make it past my Sudanese warriors, if you survive the dandenong trials you will surely fall to my Serbian rearguard with authentic gay and trans bashing action
Someone that's not me has just started HRT before their 16th birthday, what can they expect in terms of development?
>>5670835
i am a big gay
you are a big blind gay pup
it's snowing on mt. fuji
Alright I'm going to sleep now
Night /mtfg/
>>5670811
I live in a college in Melbourne from this year ;~;
But I'd like to hang out.
>>5670822
I kinda feel the same, but maybe Australia will get better in a few years :/
>>5670841
they'll look cis for the most part
>>5670845
its from the game grumps
every haiku they write ends:
it's snowing on mt. fuji
>>5670763
Not you dumbass, they mean umaru
>>5670852
you need some practice.
game grumps can suck my dick, nerd.
i wish i was dead.
>>5670857
ugh fuck haikus now. stop being lame and just be gay with me. grumps are love.
>>5670861
i can't fuck haikus.
i'd rather just fuck my mouth.
with a shotgun, obviously. :')
>>5670856
How was I supposed to know senpai?
I don't lurk here, a friend told me people were implying I'm dead.
Fuckin rood.
i cant even do this one simple fucking thing properly. i quit. >>5670866
>>5670843
Maybe
I guess my reasons are more than anti-trans stuff though
How do I deal with getting over someone who I was really into but turned out to be human trash? It's been over a year and I still get fired up just hearing about them or seeing them.
>>5670880
do what I did and keep dating them until they ditch you, worked for me and I'm just dandy
>>5670868
Why would they be talking about you? Your name isn't even spelt like that
>>5670886
and I stayed in till they got bored of treating me like shit because I'm a punching bag, nothing more
>>5670866
nice meme dude
>>5670891
thx bruh. want another
step on my dick. i know
you
love
that one.
>>5670892
im ok. could be better. the shotgun isnt actually stored at my house so dw.
>>5670898
but thats not a meme though, you want that to happen :')
Can you take both spiro and cypro.. like 100mg of spiro inthe morning and 50mg cypro evening.
Or is it like bad for you
>>5670902
you know i was going to say a lot of things but i just stopped caring. enjoy your drugs and put me in your will if you're going to OD.
>>5670907
top kek, only thing id be able to put in my will is my shitty car.
>>5670822
All places have there down sides, there's not a lot of places I'd like to live aside from the UK. The only other place I'd really like to live in would be Sweden.
>>5670910
put that you want it crushed
with me inside me.
>>5670905
It would be over kill, 50mg of cypro is more than enough.
>>5670917
I live in the UK already. It's pretty nice. Nicer than anywhere else I can think of anyway. But then I don't live in a city.
>>5670898
you actually have access to a shotgun?
now i am worried.
>>5670924
oh... i feel dumb
>>5670916
lets just say im the manliest gorilla in this thread and want to pop 100mg of cypro atleast.
>>5670887
No need to be one of mtfg's fabled catty bitches friend.
A friend told me and I took their word for it, chill out.
I'm in Australia anyway, so it's not like me posting is completely irrelevant.
>>5670905
i did that a couple times. nothing happened
>>5670942
yea, iwouldnt let you near it either.get here safe.
>>5670942
>castrate yourself
(^:
>>5670949
theres a few things i need to do before i die anyways.
>>5670950
:'-P
I just want to be a girl
Is that so much to ask for?
Sometimes I think I look okay and I build up enough confidence to try passing again and I look into a mirror and I see my face and just get incredibly dysphoric and start crying and crying and crying for hours and I cant do anything and even if I try really hard, I just look like some crossdressing faggot. I've been crying for more than 4 fucking hours. I keep thinking about detransitioning because I cant do this shit. It hurts less to look like a guy than to look like some sort of masculine femboy/dragqueen monstrosity. Trying so hard to just stare utter failure in the face is literally ripping my soul apart.
>>5670960
Why, what's wrong with being a boy? Girls would rather be boys you know.
>>5670953
like what
>>5670960
Apparently so
>>5670989
leave your phone to me, i need to up my shitposting game by doing it in the shower :^)
>>5670992
you're worth nothing to me. so you receive nothing.
i'll use my money to pay for my coffin and request to be buried with the few things i treasure. everything else will be burnt or given to my ex.
>>5670989
you're not allowed to apologize to anyone until you live.
>>5671002
>wanting to leave any trace of your existence
>>5671026
Some trans girl sent me a friend request.
I accepted and she messaged me just to insult me.
>>5671026
D : do what i say
>>5671034
who put a stick up her ass
>>5671026
y? so people can know even more about u if they examine your corpse/grave?
unless u mean personal value then I'd say liquidate everything and give it to your ex/family/charity, financial value is just wasting in the dirt, might as well throw it away, that's just me tho
Halò.
Ciamar a tha sibh?
>>5671038
I get it all the time.
I'm a brick
....
Servus.
Via ged's eana?
...
...
Goededag.
Hoe gaat het met u?
>>5671036
woof.
>>5671039
personal value. that's why i specified monetary seperately. i don't own jewelry or anything. the only physical things i cherish are a plush toy, a bunch of post-it notes and a collar. i would prefer a blank grave, my name means nothing to me and it only disgraces my family since i changed my last name too.
>>5671043
fuck humans.
>>5671002
well u aint dying on my watch, despite what you may think, i am quite fond of you
>>5671060
whatever helps you sleep at night.
>know a guy for a year or so
>he suddenly starts hitting on you
>tell him that you are trans before he goes any further
>weird, weird everywhere " you are biologically a man thats not how it works"
from omg you are so pretty and cute and adorable into that in less than 30minutes.
yay, kill me.
>>5671057
oh yeah I thought u meant that but wasn't sure and yeah that stuff will probably decay pretty readily depending on the coffin/soil/embalming conditions
I would prefer my remains destroyed and scattered such that no one will ever find a trace
>>5671057
awwwe, pup ;_;
>>5670493
/hug XXY sister!
>>5671064
;_;
>>5671066
Men are vile.
>mfw too late for normal hips
>>5671075
some guys are breddy cool
>>5671077
At least your shoulders are narrow.
>>5671075
heresy
>>5671067
that's something i've come to accept. they hold no value to anyone else except me, so i'd want them by my side when i'm gone. cremation is reserved for my father, not that i'd want that for myself honestly.
>tfw can't stop feeling good
awww yus
>>5671077
Iktf
think I got about as much hip growth as I could hope for with when I started and stuff but...
also even tho ur ffs-anon u look, at least from that pic, like u probably need less ffs than me
>>5671086
>cremation is reserved for my father
wut?
>not that i'd want that for myself honestly
y, if u don't mind me asking?
>>5671077
Try having a monster truck sized body
>>5671077
intersex pls
get on my level
>>5671089
idktf
What's up ya baboons ?
>>5671107
never give up
>>5671092
my father wants to be cremated.
in my circumstance, cremation doesn't 'feel right'. i could be a faggot and tell you about some weird visions i've had but i'm already crazy enough as is.
>>5671108
dead tired desu
going to bed
night /mtfg/
>>5671116
gn8
>>5671108
I'm probably going to do something really stupid with my hair soon. Also, I have an art photo shoot coming...
No song = no life
Really though can't remember this one song for the life of me
>>5671133
https://youtu.be/0Jy4tMySp5o
>tfw just made $1000 today and have to spend it all on bills
kill me please
>>5671138
I wish I still were in school. It was anything but monotonous... The wild, free and freaky side of my personality thrived back then. So many opportunities to raise hell... I fucking miss being a teenager.
>>5671158
how are you making sick dosh senpai.
>>5671139
Thanks for something senpai
>>5671163
it was a settlement check, only $1000 even though my knee hurts forever, the orthopedic surgeon stripped a screw in my bone and I had to have another operation to take it out 2 years ago and now out of the blue they sent me a check. Too bad its for literal chicken scratch.
>>5671166
so you didn't made it you just got a handout ?
>>5671112
>i could be a faggot and tell you about some weird visions i've had but i'm already crazy enough as is
that sounds kinda cool tho and now I'm curious
I've had some pretty fucked up ideas/perceptions/visions too when I was tripping hard
>>5671176
playing it back i nmy head, it doesn't make a good story. i'm gonna go pass out.
>>5671178
aw sorry, hope some rest makes u feel better
>>5671160
>SQL fundamentals
>systems analysis
>wild and freaky
How can I achieve this?
>tfw life is perfect
pic related, how I feel every day
>tfw mtfg gives you the silent treatment
>>5671191
life is miserable and its only getting worse, all of you may be rolling in the dough or have school paid in full but try being a poor and ugly tranny, its a death sentence
>>5671197
Why haven't you killed yourself then?
>>5671191
>tfw manbod
masc4masc gay man with tits seeks top desu
>>5671193
hi anon ^^
>>5671191
iktf 2bqh
>>5671181
Party all night and be zonked all day. Bring some beer to class in case you're feeling thirsty. And don't forget you can break out in song anytime class gets so boring you want to feel asleep. Also, get the most silly clothes you can at thrift shops. Or from your mother's attic, that works too. Pic very related, all that stuff was my mother's. One day I just asked her if there were old clothes of hers I could take. She was kind enough to sort and clean them from me...
>>5671197
I was born to two drug addicts and have had 0 help with anything in life. I started out with nothing and now life is perfect.
Excuses, excuses, kayla-chan.
>>5671213
Not everyone wants to live the life of a creepy old manchild who embarrasses everyone they come into contact with.
>>5671213
i know a mentally disabled woman who would stab you for wearing those cords.
no, not me. some lady that one of my aunts cares for. hates corduroy.
>>5671220
If you don't do that kind of stuff when you're 18, when will you?
>>5671197
What do you get from being so negative Kayla? Even though I apparently from the job I just got, and I am easily the most talented person for the position. Well. That non changed ID sometimes fucks up your life.
I am still in a better mood than you.
Life isn't so bad Kayla. It will be as good as you want it to be.
>>5671227
Unless you have autism, never.
>>5671213
I drive to school, can't get drunk in class. I guess I'll just have to settle for being that basic bitch tweaker tranny that looks perpetually bored.
>>5671230
Were you born a stuffed shirt or what?
>>5671234
Singing and drinking in the middle of class and wearing shit clothes 'ironically' doesn't make you this fun cookie person you seem to think you are. It makes you a joke and an embarrassment. Nobody is laughing with you.
>>5671239
Youngsters these days are so square and boring. It's kind of sad.
>>5671239
>replying to a literal mental patient
>>5671229
>It will be as good as you want it to be.
That is bullshit, life is only good to those who had luck or opportunity blindly thrown at them. No amount of "work" ever fixes anyone's life, money does, and the right to earn money comes from getting a job given to you for whatever fucking reason. If someone gave me a job I would shut the fuck up here and live my life, but no, I am poor and its only getting worse.
>>5671249
NOBODY GETS GIVEN A JOB YOU FUCKING CUNT.
Looking for a job is almost a job itself, put in the hours apply for things, doing interviews etc and you will get one.
>>5671249
Ditto to that about work. Thinking you'll have a better life "later" if you work hard now is bullshit. And being a wage slave isn't any better than being a whore.
>>5671249
Kid you are full of it. I had a horribly shitty life. I was literally tortured for years over the common thing that brings us all here.
I grew up on a farm in a tiny conservative area. I heard nothing but hate.
Eventually none of the things in your past matter, and you have to move beyond making excuses.
You are obviously still in an abusive situation though and I understand. Things can improve though, and I hope they do for you.
I love you. To find hope and strength is all I want for you.
>>5671259
Neck yourself you absolute fucking moron.
>>5671249
Nobody ever has anything just up and given to them. Even people that are "given" jobs have usually earned them by being a model student, or by being friends with someone. If you want the benefits of being "given" a job, maybe try being a friendlier and/or harder working person.
So i heared trought he grapevine that there are some trans girls of the apline variety around here.
I am from Austria and i would like some info on what this country is like in regards to regulation on transitioning. Mostly wanna know what they require you to do before you can get HRT and how long does it usually take. But it would be neat to know what is covered by health insurance and what isn't. Not proud of being a poorfag but i need to make every shekel count.
>>5671266
>Earned them by being a model student
If by "being" a model student you mean everything I mentioned above, plus showing up drunk to the selection exams with more alcohol to drink in your pack, yesss I was. That stupid job still ruined my life, though. I probably should have kept having good times instead and died from the drugs in the gutter instead of acing those stupid exams, really.
Did anyone else start losing weight really quickly when they started HRT? I was trying to lose weight before starting HRT, and I was losing about 1kg every 1.5 weeks. But since starting HRT, 12 days ago, I've lost 6kg. I haven't changed my eating habits or level of exercise so it seems really weird. I don't look like I've lost any muscle mass either, I just look thinner.
Shouldn't I be gaining weight since TDEE should slowly be decreasing?
>>5671282
Just lie through your teeth to your therapists and forge your srs documents like our other Austrian friend.
>>5671249
Your post reeks of priveledge. You have to WORK to get the things you want out of life. Full stop. No one is just going to give you shit for nothing. Get your head out of your ass.
>>5671258
So let me start by saying I'm not a trip.
I'm a transgirl that moved to TN for God knows what reason anyways I need to find an informed consent clinic stat as I'm running out of mones I bought when in house was still in biz of giving hormones like candy. What is the closet clinic or site like in house that doesn't require a signature or anything? And I was taking injections should I just find something else cause I hated how my levels were all over the place?
>>5671285
Were you started on spiro? It would make you piss out and keep off some water weight.
>>5671291
nah cypro
>>5671282
alpine tgirls?
i really really wanna be able to wear a dirndl one day
>>5671297
Servus ned wirklich fül im moment.
So maybe you could give me some pointers on how to plan my transition if you don't mind?
>>5669580
I think that's moofy's ex gf. They used to live together in Portland if I remember right.
>>5671297
There's nothing funny about it and I'm not kyle
>>5671285
You're essentially going through a second puberty, your body will be using more energy than before to do things like give you breasts.
>>5671309
Stewing and brewing
>>5671317
What's stopping you from going full time right now?
>>5671316
If a trans girl is post-op, fully healed up and stuff and decides to go stewing & brewing would that risk her getting BV? What about compared to a cis woman doing it?
>>5671327
Why would you want to stew and brew?
>>5671317
Why do you keep assuming that I have a life? My life is shit but I don't blame anyone but myself for that.
>>5671330
Seems kinda trendy. Maybe start off with marshmallows.
>>5671322
How can I go full time with facial hair? I need to do electrolysis weekly and I ran out of money to do it, I have only 2 hours of it when my tech said I needed 18 to go full time.
>tfw no pass
>tfw tall and gross
>>5671339
I have lots of facial hair
>>5671340
Iktf
>>5671317
>shit things people with a life say. If you didn't have things working out for you then you would be as angry and bitter as me but since you do have things working out you can't see shit from my position.
You are correct about that Kayla. I sound this way because I do have many things working out for me now, but I wasn't always this way, and it is a constant struggle to be positive.
I was at my friend Nikki's the other day and I was being negative. Oh no I will never be rich. I won't get another awesome oil and gas job. I will never be a pretty as you cause you transitioned at 15.
He was her advice to me when I first came out and met her on boy mode and her advice to me this week. I took it to heart and it has changed my life.
STFU. Just do it or shut up. Decide if you can or can't and act on it. Shit or get off the pot as the old idiom goes.
So while I know you are in a shitty situation, and honestly I have no idea how to tell you to magically fix anything. I can say certainly things have never improved while I wallowed in the negative.
Opportunity is everywhere, but one can't seize it with a negative aura. As Paul McCartney says. The love you take is equal to the love you make.
I love you. You can to it.
>>5671345
I am talking about I have a full beard and no way can I go full time with it. That's the one major thing holding me back from going full time. I can get the name change I can even get the gender marker change but I can't go full time with stubble growing in every afternoon
>>5671350
I have a full beard too
>>5671339
I don't know have you tried shaving? Also your tech didn't say that.
>>5671066
update:
>after being a little ehh about it
>he tells he doesnt believe im trans
>no way bcus no adams apple or man shoulders or bulge or anything
>then he slowly believes a little again
>tells me how im so unfair
>i shouldnt let people hit on me or respond to a flirt without telling them im trans the moment we meet
LIKE WHAT?
i swear im going to smack him with a gorilla hand if he keeps telling its wrong that i dont wear a sign" i am trans " ._.'
>>5671348
You worked at an oil company? Well based on that it seems like you will never be out of work since that always makes for a stellar resume.
>>5671350
That is an issue. I had laser paid for when I got fired and had to get a refund to pay my car note. I shave every single day. It sucks for sure, but it isn't the end of the world.
>>5671339
>shave
>go outside
:O
>>5671353
>believing that kayla actually has an electrolysis tech
>>5671261
I also grew up on a farm. Most hellish experience of my life. Did you ever have to pick rocks in a field?
>>5671353
I can't shave, hrt made my skin so sensitive I break out when I shave my face so I do it once a week because I did it daily then I would get a million ingrowns.
>>5671352
and are full time? why would you make things harder for yourself like that? How much makeup do you have to go though in a day?
>>5671367
>skin so sensitive I break out when I shave my face so I do it once a week
EDGAR GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>5671355
It's very deceptive, he probably masturbated over you and now has to tell everyone he's gay. If only you told him the moment you met.
>>5671371
HI EVERYONE I ACTUALLY HAVE A GT !
nice to meet you <: i have a name too, BUT I USED TO HAVE A BOY NAME ALSO.
self hate and people hate is going through the roof rn
>>5671367
Fulltime for 2+ years
>>5671367
Are you really too autistic to even shave yourself?
>>5671377
how am I doing it wrong? I shouldn't even have facial hair to begin with
>>5671297
I mean you don't have to if you don't want to ...
>>5671357
Not true. Oil is a destroyed industry. Shell just anounced another 10k layoffs. Just Shell. I am done in this industry because of hate. Exxon destroyed my career.
My boss was a Christians bigot who beyond telling people in a meeting with me there I am an abomination who should be beaten to death tried to have me set up for corporate sabotage. The only thing that saved me was the dummy didn't know the area she said I stole from had cameras.
I was cleared by 3 internal investigations sure and won unemployment, but no one will touch me bacause
1. Everyone is laying off
2. I am trans and Houston just had the big No men in bathrooms election. I am a hot potato no one wants.
So I get the frustration, but I am still smiling and trying. You can too.
MILD AUTISM
>>5671379
oh its fucking angie, yeah, you have as much facial hair as a fucking mole rat, which is nil if you know that mole rats are bald. what, you had a tiny goatee and a creeper moustashe and I bet its not hard to manage, try having a viking beard trying to poke its way out of your face constantly
The good thing about /mtfg/ - Yes, there's one even if that sounds crazy - is that everyone here is so miserable, bitter, passive-aggressive, or at the very best Stepford smiling so hard you can smell the pain, that it makes me feel like my life isn't so bad after all. And I'm writing this from the common room of a psychiatric clinic...
Oh, and about work? Never again! Freeloading is the way to go and I wish someone would have been honest and told me that when I was 19 instead of bullshitting me about work ethics...
>>5671381
Describe to me how you shave and don't fucking lie.
>>5671387
Hahaha
Got em
>>5671383
>the big No men in bathrooms election
what the fuck does that mean? you mean there was an actual vote for trannies in bathrooms? Isn't that totally unconstitutional?
>>5671375
It's harder when you don't have a gt any more since everyone expects a tranny to have a gt. ;-;
>>5671389
Your life is already over and you lost. Now fuck off and stop bothering young people who are actually trying to sort themselves out.
>>5671365
like once did we have to remove anything for prepare. Just the year it flooded so bad. We grew soy beans. Ha I honestly didn't even know we could eat them until I moved to Houston and ate edamame.
>>5671372
Because it is important to me. Because dysphoria only gets worse. It never gets better or easier. Because even drinking and endless weed didn't help me anymore.
Don't get there Kayla. Don't get there. My identity is very important to me. That is why I put in so much effort.
>>5671381
There is no wrong way to do it. No special order. As long as you are sincere is the only thing that matters.
>>5671390
I put my hair back in a scrunchii and then shave my sideburn area, then tweeze my eyebrows, then apply gel and do the rest of my face making sure after every swipe to rinse the blade
>>5671407
well I am not allowed my female identity, I have to hide it so I don't come off as a weirdo to normies
>>5671390
I literally pull every hair out of my face by either using a spring or tweezers. I'm not going to shave and have it grow back adding the next day's hair to the problem
>>5671394
Yes we actually did. Houston became the only city of over 100 thousand people to vote to overturn the whole cities equal rights ordinance over trans status being protected.
The signs saying no men in the women's restroom were everywhere. The commercials were terrible. It was horrible here.
>>5671394
http://wtop.com/virginia/2016/02/virginia-panel-oks-transgender-school-bathroom-bill/
It isn't
>>5671415
how do you dress at home?
>>5671407
Noice, we also had a crop farm. Soybeans, wheat (straw), barley, corn, and different kinds of hay. My dad was hardcore into farming and rented tons of fields around the area to farm and of course I was forced into unpaid slave labor for much of it.
Summer vacation was NOT a vacation for me. Maybe you can relate.
>>5671409
>I ask him to describe how he shaves so I can help him be a better cross dresser and he gives me some shit about plucking his eyebrows and pulling his hair back.
Just shut the fuck up and don't reply to me again you idiot.
>>5671415
I understand just try to envision a positive future ok. It will help.
>>5671420
This makes no sense.
So what if cis men who claim to be ftm start using female bathrooms?
>>5671420
This is what you can look forward too if a republican wins the White House.
>>5671399
Honestly, at this point, I'm set up for getting as much money I made working for nothing, for the rest of my life. My transition is on rails and going fast. It may not count as a perfect 100% run, but it's pretty far from being game over, to be honest.
>>5671426
I can so relate to having to slave away in the summer doing silly stuff. Then my dad got a bigger tax break to let the fields go natural than to farm them. His real job was General Motors and gardening and farming was mostly hobby so we just did nothing after that.
>>5671290
Please respond.
>>5671304
sure just ask
>>5671442
Where in TN?
>>5671427
Trip on lily bro
>>5671290
Why exactly can't you buy them from inhouse anymore? You know that "prescription requirement" is bogus and is just so credit card companies will stfu. I just paid with an echeck and it was easy peasy no prescription required.
>tfw small hooded eyes
Fucking kill me
>>5671429
It is complicated. The solution to these bathroom bills is obvious, but we aren't allowed to say No transgenders. Only transsexuals, and that just make people get treated by a doctor and do it right to have permission. The special snowflakes attack you. Oh the HERO meeting were a shit show. Hons were out in droves saying Vote for HERO. The bathroom meme is coming nation wide it will affect everyone sooner or later. Ed Young is exporting this plan.
>>5671430
>his is what you can look forward too if a republican wins the White House.
I am truly afraid that is correct.
>>5671420
Tn and virgina are about to join suit rebublicans are such cunts augh I swear the whole right to work state bullshit here is a green card to discrimination.
>>5671382
tschuldigung hund musste raus <_<
>>5671456
I am always anon ballsack vag
>>5671459
agreed
>>5671461
sure thing salty bee
>>5671461
>ballsack vag
k I giggled
I've just discovered that I can see my pulse in the space between my heel and ankle bone. Can't stop laughing at it desu
>>5671446
So I saw a gender therapist already but i have only been there once. Just talked about my general situation. I didn't really get across that i actually really wanna start HRT as soona s i can. I read that the "real-life" test is a thing for some procedures but i can't imagine going full tiem if i don't think i could pass full time as well. Will i be asked to do it anyway? Are there any other things i gotta do before i get approved for hormones? What should I say? How long woudl i ahve to wait to start HRT anyway?
>>5671454
iktf
>>5671454
iktf. you can't even tell im wearing eyeshadow today
>>5671459
Right-to-work is a very old and outdated law used to protect companies.
Such a law shouldn't exist.
>>5671474
SRS is scary
>>5671474
trip on kayla you haven't had srs you lying piece of shit/
>>5671478
>tfw just want my cock chopped off, not even interested in getting a vagina.
>>5671478
This.
Anybody waiting for vaginal implant options in the distant future? I refuse to have my dick inverted I think it's really disgusting desu.
>>5671447
Gray. Last therapist I saw said you should be happy how God made you okay I lied I am a trip but he's an asshole I shouldn't have to get a diagnosis anyways I know I'm a girl I don't wnt some pencil pushing neckbeard or cis woman's opinion. Its retarded we have to go through this.
>>5671452
My bank doesn't support that feature so inhouse a shit now.
>>5671481
what would you have then? an amputated penis?
>>5671474
Suporn is top surgeon for srs.
Enjoy your discount vagina from Bowers
>>5671481
I want my balls removed as soon as possible but I dunno how good swedish SRS is so i'm not in a rush to get that stuff at least.
>>5671485
I dunno I just want it gone. A pee hole and nothing else, is that a thing?
>>5671483
Oh it's you holic.
I don't know what to say. Finding trans care in the south is a fucking joke
>>5671478
Don't know. I have fears about facial plastic surgery but I'm really comfortable with the idea of SRS. It's almost unreal considering I'm getting it in three months, I managed to rope in my mother to come with me and help after the surgery and she talks about the whole thing as casually as if we were going for a walk in the park.
>>5671483
Maybe open a free checking account at a different bank? Dunno. Informed consent is probably better if you can get in somewhere.
>>5671474
Can't comment on suporn, doesn't happen for brassards though.
>>5671478
All surgery is scary
>>5671469
>Will i be asked to do it anyway?
depends on the state in vienna it isn't needed afaik but I am not sure since I went fulltime pre hrt anyway
but if your therapist is at least a bit competent give him good reasons as to why wearing a dress and stuff without mones has nothing to do with you being trans
>Are there any other things i gotta do before i get approved for hormones?
not sure they changed a bunch last year to make it easier I had to get a clinical shrink evaluation, normal shrink and therapist
but a letter from a therapist was enough for gender marker and name change so I guess a kind urologist,gyn,endo,andro (all of them can prescripe hrt, after the first prescription your normal family doctor can refill it) could accept just a therapist letter
>How long woudl i ahve to wait to start HRT anyway?
depends they removed the hour cap in vienna last year now they can basically give you the OK after one hour in vienna at least but if you tell them that you are confident that it's the right way and want to start asap for reasons X Y Z you might get it quicker
>Are there any other things i gotta do before i get approved for hormones?
see above, but in general a therapist letter should be enough
>What should I say?
the truth
and tell them what you see as female (e.g. my shrink thought that mtf = girly girl so I eplained to him why I see myself as female, that behavior and clothes don't make someone a woman or a man etc. ) so yeah just be honest and explain things
>>5671474
>better surgeon
lmao
>>5671474
>labia
>ballsack
sorry didn't go to your shit tier surgeon honey
>>5671501
suporn doesn't even use ballsack for labia so yeah...
>>5671474
>I wonder if the texture of her labia changes depending on the temperature, like a ballsack would
As much as I hate Thai-memers don't start memeing the other way. Suporn and Chett don't use the scrotum for the labia, it's purely inside to line the vagina with penis skin for the labia.
>>5671496
How did you know? Well is there anyway I can find cynanide capsules? Cause if I can't deal with this shit anymore.
>>5671501
Doesn't happen with my välfärd Euro-vagina either.
>>5671504
Some is a bit scarier though.
I mean what if you get a really bad one and it's just a hole.
>>5671502
Nothing is impossible anon, but I don't expect it anytime soon. Luckily I'm completely indifferent to my dick. Sure beats having a smelly open wound filled with bacteria :D
I got an interview for a shit job, its only $10 an hour for 20 hours a week, how the fuck can I live off of that?
>>5671516
Idk im more worried about not waking up after going under
>>5671469
also if you are in vienna here is how you change your name for free (copy fees excluded they are like 12€)
>go to standesamt of your birthplace with letter of therapist
>change marker to female
>go to magistrat near Jägerstraße, show them letter and birthcertificate showing your old name and female on it
>pick name
>wait 2 weeks
>pick up name change confirmation, back to standesamt switch old name for new one
done
>>5671495
Yeah it's called being a nullo I think
>>5671488
suporn is a marketing machine followed by fan girls, people think he's some mastermind but there are so many bad reviews of him i stayed away. i didn't go to bowers
>>5671521
No you don't
>>5671521
Easily it's called money management. Dunno about affording your electrolysis though unless you can get it through insurance.
>>5671516
What if you get an angry inch?
>>5671521
You get a second job
>>5671521
more money than you're making now, how do you live now?
>>5671516
>just a hole
Well, that's why I chose to pay from my pocket to have that surgery done abroad even if I could have had some...thing done for free in France. http://www.hopitalsaintlouis.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=72%3Atroubles-de-lidentite-de-genre&catid=39%3Aorganes-genitaux&Itemid=91&showall=1
>>5671525
>but there are so many bad reviews of him
none of them will be provided ?
on the other hand we have tons of good looking suporn and chatt vaginas
keep trying to justify your mistake sis
>>5671536
I love that movie.
>>5671521
You live with your fucking mom retard.
>>5671522
I've had surgery before and it wasn't very spoopy tbhon but I felt sick when I woke up.
>>5671397
well if you want chasers as your bf's
>if you had been my type of a girl
>you wud have been in a treat
>im really good at bed
>too bad you arent my kind of a girl
Like what, who does he think he is?
did i offend him in someway that he has to prove me how amazing he is?
>>5671525
Who did you go to?
>>5671542
I've never actually seen it. I just know the song from a cover that Type O Negative did that I used to love when I was a little goth.
>>5671525
To be honest, I was planning to get it from him at first, but I realised his #1 status was pretty much an internet meme. Most post-op trans girls I've met IRL had their SRS done by Kamol or Chett and are happy with the results. Nobody even talks about Suporn.
>>5671543
Been under general anesthesia 4 times still spooked by sugery esp since i get nausea but im a pretty big puss desu
>>5671553
kek don't have to post it again buddy
suporn doesn't use ballsack for the vulva
but hey i am sure "another" anon can post it for me lmao>>5671554
>Nobody even talks about Suporn.
tfw nobody now ;_;
>>5671551
It's a good watch. Really freaky, really funny, great soundtrack.
>>5671543
>You live with your fucking mom retard.
And time is up with her, she can't afford to pay for this big ass house we are renting so I am out on the 20th, I have a room for rent but its in another county.
>>5671537
so now I have to work slave wages for 2 jobs? what the fuck is this shit, where is my american dream? oh i guess they only give that to immigrants and yale grads these days
>>5671506
>but if your therapist is at least a bit competent give him good reasons as to why wearing a dress and stuff without mones has nothing to do with you being trans.
I dunno i don't egt why you ouldask for this int he first palce. Isn't it kind of added torture to have me dress in a female style while i have to look at my face like this? Hope that's enough of an explanantion.
I am already seeing a chlinical psychologist so i could get a diagnosis that way. She apperently also has more clients that are trans. Seems pretty lenient with giving out a diagnosis so i guess i am a bit hopefull there. Just worried i will scare her off when i just burst out with all of my plans right away. The prospect of transition is hwoever the onyl thignt hat keeps me from major depression at the moment so i will have to do it anyway i guess.
I am not in Vienna however let's hope it also works like this in OÖ.
Thanks a lot Lala.
>>5671553
You know that reminds me, I haven't seen Lily's but I have seen some results from Suporn and Chett where they look like the labia are from scrotal skin, which is odd because they say they don't use it. Perhaps it's perineal skin?
I also remember a girl on reddit saying she was really disappointed with chett and that her fan looked like a "bisected scrotum".
Now I don't know what to think.
wow it feels so good to be fully rested
>>5671567
Better learn how to manage your money then, peasant.
>>5671561
Interesting
My ballsack seems to be the most sensitive part of my genitalia - penis itself is practically numb. Maybe I should do more research where to go...
>>5671517
It is impossible you'd actually have a better chance of head transplants working.
>>5671567
Welcome to adulting. Most people would be lucky to only have to work 40 hours a week, Kayla. 2 jobs isn't a big deal if they're each for 20 hours or whatever.
>>5671576
I think the best part about being fully rested is you feel like you can take on the world or laze around all day, also the rested experience boost is a plus
>>5671590
How is that even remotely true? Nothing is impossible. Even if it was some kind of realistic pseudo vagina implant without a functioning uterus. You'd have to be really naive to think that will never be possible in the distant future.
>>5671593
If you post your picture - ballsack labia confirmed.
If you don't post your picture - ballsack labia highly suspected. I see what you're doing but you should be more forthcoming and selfless
>>5671605
This is a blue board, anon.
>>5671605
>I want to fap to lily's vag
>>5671605
>you should be more forthcoming and selfless
why ? enough people saw my vag and can confirm it's good looking
are you just desperately fishing for a way to attack me ?
sorry bro I'm perfect
God even the transhelp general is useless fuck I hate this state wtf can I do seriously fucking fuck?
lily lemme see dat pußi
>>5671616
I'm not them but I'm curious now of how it looked not because I believe them but just because I like comparing my neo-vag to others.
>>5671567
Uh that is the American dream Kayla. That is actually it.
>>5671576
>tfw you're woken up by dick in your face
>actually well rested too
>woken up early enough to play some choice ass video games
nice desu
>>5671626
Just because saw some that looked kinda scrotum-y doesn't mean that it's all like that, there's plenty Supawutter's that have non-scrotal looking fannies.
>militant neo vag hate
I'll never understand this, why does it matter what someone else does to their body to be happy with it?
>>5671644
P U ß I
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>>5671650
I think it's disgusting and barbaric, but I don't look down upon those that get the surgery because I understand the sentiment.
>>5671650
i personally don't want one but idk why people have to get mad about it. it's literally the same thing as getting mad at someone taking HRT or having FFS
why does it matter to them
it's probably just kayla samefagging
>>5671652
you mean those wrinkles ?
https://fi.realself
.com/full/969fc16d8a8b9a9df4973a430771e1bd/2/8/d/userimage-377088.jpg
kek
keep dreaming buddy not posting it
>>5671650
the agps secretly want to get everyone to keep their dicks, and dont understand why they'd want srs
its a conspiracy I tell you
>>5671650
It's mostly salty non-ops who feel they have something to prove about their transness.
>>5671664
pußßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßi
>>5671667
TRUTRANS SCUM GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>5671664
Lily you are deflecting and not posting it because it looks like a ballsack. I dont blame you id be ashamed too
>>5671664
That's pretty amazing, can you link to the realself page for that because I can't find it under MTF Vaginoplasty and it looks pretty different from all the other Suporn posts on there.
tfw u ask 2 see da pußi and she ACTUALLY did it
>>5671658
Idk, disgusting would be going a bit far, I can even see the perspective of barbaric. Going through the process, it's fucking brutal. There's really no sugarcoating it.
>>5671668
Idg why it proves anything though, demonizing people's genitals is honestly terrible, regardless of who's doing the demonizing.
>>5671667
But agp doesn't rael o.o
>>5671650
bitter hons without money for it and non-ops trying to justify themselves I guess
>>5671673
ooook buddy
I mean leave aside all the people who saw it and thought it looked perfectly fine, and those who didn't clock it and gave it 8 and 9s
why do you care so much about my labia ?
>>5671679
not my vag I posted
>>5671664
Your look nothing like that
>tfw you're 100% going to fuck a qt girl with a neo-vag in the summer
>>5671668
non-ops don't have to prove themselves on the level field of srs? remember it's choice.
>>5671687
>so many people think it's perfect looking
>can't post a picture of the ballsack labia
Okay lily, we believe you :^)
Hey mtfg, are you pretty enough to get desperate guys to give you gifts randomly?
>>5671687
>not my vag I posted
Yeah I know, I don't care that it's not yours. I just wanted to see the page for it for more since I've never seen srs look that good.
>>5671682
>>5671700
desperate guys like that never seem to like my personality
>>5671700
no
>>5671711
Because it looks like a ballsack and you're lying about it. I get it you are ashamed of them but dont let other people make the same mistake, be honest about it
>>5671685
I dunno.. the way I see it I will always be stuck with a dick. I just have the choice between leaving it alone or turning it inside out.
And honestly, would you reeallly want to put your face anywhere near a neo-vag? Fucking gross.. they've done tests and they're all filled with really nasty bacteria from decaying flesh which makes them stink like hell. Not trying to hate I just find it horrifying.
>>5671700
No but i'm nice enough to get video games gifted to me.
Boys are silly.
>>5671700
what's your amazon wishlist?
>>5671714
so you care about my vulva a lot ?
why ?
>>5671700
I wish.
Somebody buy me a pizza :( I'll give you attention..
>>5671667
>tfw agp but want a vag real bad
>>5671700
I had a not too desperate looking girl kindly proposing to give me her life savings to fund my surgeries. That was so unexpected I said no because it felt like I'd be robbing her.
I guess I'd have less scruples about abusing guys, but I do my best to keep them away from me, so...
>>5671721
Please reread my response and try again
You say a lot of people saw them and it looked fine but no i saw it and i am telling you it is not fine
Is there any point in living if you can never be cute? Sometimes I think I should just die. It's not even defeatism. There's really no chance that I could ever pass, much less be cute.
>>5671722
ill buy you a pizza but i need something in return and its not attention
>>5671718
>tfw not as pretty as lain so don't get free vidya
>>5671726
Hello kayla.
>>5671731
>"my opinion counters others"
ok so your argument is opinion based thus irrelevant ?
neat I can go home then
>>5671711
>idk if it's srs or not sry
Ah okay, fair enough. I get it now, I thought you were posting an amazing srs rather just a vagina with wrinkles (srs or not). My mistake.
>>5671738
>Selling my butt for food
Am I that desperate?
>>5671743
Your whole merit was based on opinion aka other people think its fine only to be followed by a "why do you care?"
>>5671726
tfw agp but dont want no vag
>>5671747
u tell me
>>5671738
>yume will never flirt with you
>ywn meet up with yume
>ywn introduce her to heroin
>ywn infect the Portland group with a hobo's dirty HIV/hep C infected needle
Why live?
>>5671739
I'm not pretty, you just gotta be nice and be grill.
>>5671740
Im worse than kayla desu ;)
>>5671751
;-; what do I hafta do?
>>5671737
If passing means that much to you, you might want to reevaluate your priorities. Passing isn't everything, neither is being attractive.
>>5671747
fuck that makes me want pizza
>>5671748
well so your one opinion should be valued more than the opinion of other people
why ?
also give how people were unable to clock it why should I care if what you claim even was true ?
>>5671752
>2016
>Sharing needles
You're like... thirty years late.
>>5671601
There are different nerve endings for one.
>>5671763
I know I'm sorry. I'm a food masochist. I watch cooking shows when I'm broke and have nothing to eat.
does anyone keep a pad or tampon in your purse in case another girl asks you for one?
>>5671752
JUST POZ ME UP LAD
>>5671762
ur the one begging here
>>5671715
Yeah, I understand that, I'm stuck with a dick for life as well. Difference is that I really did not feel comfortable with it being an outie, it made a real difference in how I feel about my body, and how I feel about sharing that with a partner.
>filled with really nasty bacteria from decaying flesh which makes them stink like hell
I will at least say though, it's only partially true. For one, natal vags have this too, it's called smegma, although it tends to build up more around the vulva. Ime keeping your genitals clean goes a long way to keeping them from smelling awful. My experience has been that this holds true during periods where I may not be paying enough attention to personal hygiene.
The more you know I guess
>>5671767
But according to you all opinions were irrelevant, so why are you cherishing positive opinions over negative ones?
>>5671763
Well, passing and being attractive both are nice. But you're right, there's better than that.
>>5671773
I keep a tec-9 in my purse
>>5671773
i dont have a purse and no thats fuckin weird dude wtf....................
>>5671715
>they're all filled with really nasty bacteria from decaying flesh which makes them stink like hell
You're going to have to source me on that. At the worst studies have shown some girls have vaginal flora more akin to BV. Nothing to do with decaying flesh, like do you think that we have like zombie vaginas that are perpetually decaying?
And even girls with my BV-like flora, can improve their outcome by taking pro-biotics.
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24239295
And for good measure, here's a study showing the neo-vagina harbouring healthy, vaginal bacteria.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3894556/
>>5671775
I apologise if this is a bit personal, but did you ever experience "phantom limbs" post op?
>>5671779
according to you your opinion outweights those of like 50+ people
why ?
I personally don't care what you think and i'm quite happy with my vagina
but why do you care about it ?
>>5671763
Passing is extremely important. A matter of life and liberty for some people.
Being attractive not so much.
>>5671773
Well... I never stopped doing it, even when I was trying to pass as male. They even came in handy a few times.
>>5671763
>tfw want more pizza but should stop getting it bc you're too poor
JUST
>captcha: select pizza
y
>>5671775
dicks have smegma too but it's not from dead flesh.
So how do people who got ffs afford it? How many years did it take for you to save up the dosh? Did you take a loan? I'm working full time on pretty shitty minimum wage and I can't seem to save much at a good progress. I'm going back to uni in March to (hopefully) finish my degree this year to get more money. I took a year off uni last year because I was in a really bad place, and I feel like I've forgotten everything I learnt except the basics in the 3 years I went. I've also pretty much lost all passion for my degree, so I'm really uncertain I can pass given my year off. I just feel like I need to finish uni so I can afford to get surgery to see myself in the mirror but it's not really the job I want to do.
>>5671791
>tfw pass as a 1/10 apparently
I didn't ask for this.
>>5671789
I can help answer this. I'm 8 months post-op and have never had any phantom penis not even at the start of recovery so I doubt it will ever happen.
>>5671789
The only period I experienced phantom limb was in the immediate 72 hours post-op. After that, it was gone.
>>5671796
>dead flesh
Smegma is literally a mix of sebum and dead skin cells. It decays as well if unchecked, and can smell truly horrific.
>>5671790
You're cherry picking your opinions when you said all opinions were irrelevant
My opinion is that of an honest review since i dont care if i hurt your feelings or not on 4chan
>>5671786
>vaginal flora
WHY
>>5671795
>lay here and let you have your way with my motionless body..
exactly my fetish
>>5671793
we have frozen pizza in the fridge u clutz
JUST CAUSE WE CANT AFFORD TO GET PIZZA EVERY DAY DOESNT MEAN WE'RE POOR
*swats*
>>5671798
So now you accept you pass? Thats improvement ;)
>>5671789
>phantom boner
Scary thoughts please go away.
>>5671772
;-;
>>5671791
> A matter of life and liberty for some people.
>living in a non-tolerant place as a transgirl
>>5671802
>>5671801
Thanks, i guess its different to having your leg/arm amputated since no-one really wants that :x
>>5671802
Kek. Skin cells =/= flesh
>>5671811
>living in a non-tolerant place as a transgirl
Boymode. Boymode forever.
>>5671802
dead skin cells are shed everywhere especially on our tongues but they shed because its alive you know? maybe you don't
>>5671803
aha so you think your opinion should be valued more than the other honest ones I got on 4chan ?
despite me not caring about them I am just curious, are you autistic ?
like do you think your opinion dictates reality ?
>>5671797
Took me 3 years of putting money aside working with a hygiene company
>>5671818
>Skin cells =/= flesh
>>5671819
That's what I did until I moved.
Rule 1 of being LGBT - don't live somewhere shitty
>>5671818
Wait, so you are telling me that my vagina isn't shedding skin cells (as you would expect), and is literally shedding chunks of rotting flesh? What on earth kind study says this? This just plain isn't true.
>>5671821
The tissue it sheds from is alive, the cells that are shed are not. I know that the body sheds dead cells everywhere, which is why I'm confused as to why a neovag doing it is specifically gross.
>tfw you will NEVER be a futa and have a pusi and willy
>>5671823
>calling autism
someone is getting desperado here
>do you think your opinion dictates reality?
the reality is your labia has the same texture that of a ballsack, you could prove me wrong but you refuse to out of embarrassment. I get it
>>5671804
That's a pretty lewd fetish senpai.
>>5671836
why do I have to prove something to you in the first place ?
>inb4 "cause muh opinion is da truth"
3 people in this thread right now need to be savagely beaten to death.
>>5671843
Me
Myself
I
>>5671835
Tragic, it would make tucking so easy
>>5671837
post the soles of your feet and i'll get you pizza
>>5671843
Tell me who
>>5671843
Do me aswell
>>5671837
i am ultimate sex pervert
theres not many things i dont like in sex besides overtly disgusting things
i think my favourite thing out of all of them which is very specific is;
>fucking a bored, emotionless and motionless girl, while she's on her phone/playing a portable system, not paying any attention to you, with her chiming in once and awhile with "are you finished yet?" "jeez why are you taking so long" etc
>>5671843
me first, tia
>>5671834
well youre stating an obvious here, skin is shed because it's dead. i didnt say it was gross youre confusing anons
>>5671852
Not gonna fall for this me-me again. You'll just run off with my soles and leave me pizzaless.
>>5671834
Well, there's one organ in the human body that literally sheds chunks of dead flesh. That's the uterus. We transwomen don't have those.
>>5671826
How much did it cost and how many procedures did you get? It's really hard for me to estimate a price based on what I find online, can range from 20k-60k+ AUD. I NEED at least rhinoplasty and alarplasty to ever have any chance of passing, but I also want brow/jaw reduction.
>>5671843
pls dont kill me senpai
>>5671856
>tfw like the dick too much to do this any more
>>5671856
holy fuck
>>5671856
Congratulations you're a closet child rapist
>>5671864
you like it too much and get like fucking cocklust mode and just fucking go crazy
which im not complaining about............ thats nice as fuck too, i still haven't seen you go full jinx mode yet though, kinda dissapointed maybe?
>>5671866
WHATS WRONG?
>>5671834
Okay you rgot defensive pretty quickly there. You mentioned skin cells when the other anon mentioned flesh. I corrected you in saying flesh connotates deeper layers than the skin layer alone.
>>5671842
>i have nothing to prove to you
Okay ballsack lady boy
>>5671869
bratty girls are the best dude cmon
>>5671856
Lol, sounds exactly like my ex bf when I wasn't in the mood and I just wanted him to finish so he would stop badgering me for sex.. he was so fucking annoying when he was horny it pissed me off to no end. I would tell him no over and over and he would just whine and pout like a little bitch. Not an attractive trait.
>>5671859
Yeah, my bad, my wording may have been a bit poor. It was just a general statement of confusion as to why anon found it gross.
>>5671862
Oh irony..
>>5671871
Not really defensive, just kinda baffled as to where people got the impression that multiple layers of skin routinely get shed from a neo vagina. It does definitely this while it's healing, but not after. Didn't really bother me then either, there were grosser aspects to the healing process than dead skin ;~;
>>5671870
nothing, that was just a wew lad moment u feel me?
>>5671880
I don't think it's worth it desu, but you need to make that choice yourself. It will never be like a natal vagina.
>>5671880
Lily posted it a while back but quickly took it down after it was made fun of
>>5671880
A little bit yes, you have to weigh the risks and benefits. In the modern era it's unlikely you'll have a total disaster, but it may end up looking a bit funny, or you may lose a lot of sensation.
So an update on my issue with GCU.
They have decided to give me the second chance if I complete the corrective actions course. I was able to talk to some of the staff to get the class for free.
This allows me to have a second chance and also allows me to apply to a different school that I can teach at.
I'm going to shop around for schools that are lgbt friendly.
>>5671808
Im just listening to what people say, I still think I look like a man.
>>5671898
tbdesu since i would use neither penis nor vagina for pleasure the only plus i can see is "wearing cute swimsuits in summer". i mean, i think it'd help me mentally a bit too, but i just can't justify it to myself. kind of wish i could
>>5671904
I want to lick your prolapsed anus.
>>5671863
Cost me about 16k euro so about 26k aud i think? for surgery alone not including travel and stuff
I had
Forehead with brow lift, orbital rims all that jaz
Rhinoplasty
Jaw angle reduction
Medpor implants on my midface (i have really sunken midface even at 22 thx dad)
chin recontouring
>>5671903
gl angie
>>5671902
It was taken down within minutes when i saw it
>>5671917
uhm no I reposted it since I timed out
maybe keep your eyes open instead of shitposting so much :^)
>>5671911
I'll have you know my butt has never been bullied.
>>5671914
Thanks
I need all the luck for my hon ass
What am I supposed to do now that hormones have made it near impossible to fap and I don't enjoy anal
>>5671929
Sharpie in urethra
>>5671929
Become asexual by choice.
>>5671929
embrace the limitless free time you have to start up a new hobby instead of jerking off
or suck dick instead whatever
>>5671929
get gt mutilated into a faux vag
>>5671922
Yeah just keep on replying to the trolls over and over and over. You're probably going to reply to me too and say something like "cool story bro" you goddamn aspie.
>>5671912
I'm worried about FFS. I could afford it and I need it if I want to be somewhat attractive, but I'm afraid it could come out all wrong... And I have enough trouble maintaining my sense of self as it is...
I might get braces to fix my overbite, though. Not much risk there.
>>5671941
Well my ffs came out all wrong
>>5671939
well I just came here to kill time
i don't really care who I reply to
but ok take mtfg so serious you call other people aspie over it
lmao
>>5671944
wrong as in you're not happy with it, or it made you look objectively worse?
>>5671903
Congrats angie, glad that you've made some sort of progress. Are you looking at schools out of state?
>>5671905
Yeah, I mean if you can't justify it you can't justify it, if it's not necessary to have surgery for you to be happy then in all honesty, that's great. Tbh, I was kind of on the fence about it beforehand given genital dysphoria only appeared under certain circumstances, it wasn't a crippling 24/7 thing like some people have. The deciding factor was really that I just couldn't deal with being unable to have sex with a partner and feel normal.
When there's no dysphoria, and really no drive for sex, then idk.
>>5671921
You may be waiting a long time ;~;
Realistically, future-tech vaginas probably won't appear for at least another decade, and likely will need another decade still to be perfected. I decided to just do it, the idea of holding out on happiness for the remote chance that things will improve didn't make sense to me.
h-heh
>>5671958
me on the left
>>5671958
>tfw the left one looks exactly like me
>>5671922
No you posted it and it was taken down within minutes after you said "keep on hating" or something along those lines
>lying to yourself
nice
>>5671921
SRS pretty much cleared up my bodily dyphoria (sometimes I still feel shit about my face, but that's it). It really does wonders for your body image as a whole if you have genital dysphoria. Like people might say "Oh srs doesn't matter to much since no one else ever sees it anyway" but even if you're single, you see it, every day, you're aware of it and it wears you down. It did wonders for me.
>>5671941
Go to a sugeon you trust even if you have to travel a bit also ffs doesn't fix bdd
>>5671958
>There will never be skeleton replacement surgery in your lifetime
>>5671958
according to this i'm female? can back up with visuals inclding x-rays
>>5671958
I can't even bring my legs together like that
>>5671974
>ywn have your brain transplanted into a robotic female body.
JUST
>you will never be attractive enough to get hit on
>>5671972
Well, that's the problem. Except Chett who's tried to sell me almost every procedure in the book (except cheekbones, that would have sounded ridiculous...), everyone's telling me I'm rather pretty and I don't need surgery. The shrink that's seeing me daily has made it clear she wouldn't sign any document for facial surgery as she says I obviously have BDD. And then, there's the matter of the dead girls, they're just memory constructs, but even being figments of my imagination, they could well try to drag me towards their own image.
>>5671951
>Realistically, future-tech vaginas probably won't appear for at least another decade, and likely will need another decade still to be perfected
this
those are exactly my thoughts too
>>5671958
I can't decide whether to transition or not and I keep seeing these things and they make me feel hopeless. Am I not really transgender if all it takes is this to deter me? I've definitely got dysphoria and think I'd be happier if everyone treated me like a girl but it doesn't take much to push me into a state of wanting to return to burying my emotions again, at least temporarily.
>>5671968
you really do anything to fish for replies now aren't ya ?
>>5671912
26k AUD isn't so bad. It seems doable. Just hard. I can be pretty bad at money management. I hate where I am so I do things that make me feel better, which usually involve spending money. I know this is something only I can change, and I only have myself to blame, it's just very difficult.
>tfw no bf to cuddle and play fightan games and watch anime with
>>5671992
Attractive enough to be hit on, I already am. Doesn't make me feel any good. I want to be attractive enough to see my face on every newspaper kiosk.
tfw join the irc but too scared to talk so you leave immediately
>>5672013
>tfw he's out there and would love you unconditionally but he's too ugly for you
>>5672005
>there's the matter of the dead girls, they're just memory constructs, but even being figments of my imagination, they could well try to drag me towards their own image.
What
>>5672005
>dead girls
wot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTiw2Ap1LE8
>>5672004
Idk, if that was the only option I don't doubt that you would, and in your position I'd probably do the same. Lawsuits cost a lot of time and money for no guaranteed payoff though, if there's an approach that doesn't involve the courts it's probably the better one.
>>5672018
Awe anon, we don't bite ;-;
>>5672011
Ballsack lady stop the deflecting
>>5672017
Sure thing hon.
>>5672019
>tfw not shallow at all
>>5672005
>there's the matter of the dead girls, they're just memory constructs, but even being figments of my imagination, they could well try to drag me towards their own image.
#scared
Lying in bed thinking about how hard I came last night
>>5672025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGdGFtwCNBE
>>5672005
Tbh do consults with as many surgeons as possible it will give you a idea on who is trying to upsell you
>>5672035
Okay thank you very much for the update
>>5672031
>not shallow at all
L-London?
Seriously it shouldn't be that hard for you to find someone then. Unless you live in a conservative place.
>>5672025
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lxAOc4JYELc
>>5672035
Nice post!
PLEASE keep us updated
>>5672010
i genuinely feel better most of the time than i used to but i still get really dysphoric which is when i sadpost. i would have killed myself if i didn't transition tho. i'm hoping i get less dysphoric the further i get into my transition.
>>5672046
I already found one actually but my voice sucks but at least he thinks I pass and he likes me and stuff.
>>5672031
>tfw ywn be a cute guy and hit on lain
>>5672025
https://youtu.be/E9xUtaL0D2A?t=1m35s
>>5672022
>>5672023
>>5672032
They're just memories of girls I once knew. And I was so afraid of forgetting them, I let them have a bit more weight in my mind than just memories. Except the whole thing has snowballed into a real mental cancer and from time to time, one takes control, only to be horrified at the body it sees in the mirror.
>almost no facial hair in early 20s
>very feminine curves, especially thighs
>narrow waist (32 inches), pretty wide hips (43 inches)
>brazil butt
>like to crossdress at home every day, mostly for fapping at first
>started wearing panties 24/7
>really like the idea of having a pair of tits and cleavage
>tfw not sure if I want to become a trap
>tfw also 200 cm tall
What should I do? Just be a closet sissy? I'd never ever be able to pass because of my height, but I enjoy it more and more every day.
>>5672064
Be less crazy pls
>>5672060
I like cute girls too as long as they aren't femlets or boring af.
>playing weeb mmo
>guildmate randomly asks if i want a rare pet companion
>people spend real world money on the bonus item store to buy pets
>gives it to me for free
being a girl is nice
>>5672005
>And then, there's the matter of the dead girls
>>5672059
Wait, lainanon has a boyfriend?
does /mtfg/ wear VS yoga pants? How do you size them correctly? I bought some that are exactly my size and they're wrinkly and aren't stretching much if at all. Should I get one a couple inches smaller than my actual size?
>>5672069
If I only could, I surely would... You have manic pixie dream girls, and then you have me, the psycho tranny nightmare clown...
>>5672080
what doesn't everyone?
>>5672076
>tfw femlet and boring af
i want to dye my hair black again, wear black lipstick, and paint my nails black
and then make my eyes look even more blue somehow
>>5672064
>yfw you're an imaginary dead girl trapped in a middle aged tranny's body
Question for fanny trannies.
How long does it take you to orgasm now compared to before? I've only recently gotten back my orgasm at 7 months and at first it took like an hour to reach but now I've managed to reach it in 10 minutes a few times. Pre-op I'd orgasm in like 2~ minutes, though I rarely did because I hated using it.
>>5672065
Being trans isn't really about sexuality and passing, that parts just being human, if you feel like you're one gender or the other, you can be happier if you allow yourself to express it, but only if you can cope with the social pressures of being trans.
>>5672027
Idk what to do.
I would love to sue and win so I can for my srs, some new ffs and a BA.
It's tempting
>>5672095
Do eet. Post pics.
Now that I think of it, I'm not even sure FFS is the right kind of surgery for me. I'd like my face to be less round and more defined. Same thing with my lower face. Sure, I want the jaw corners and my chin to be reduced, but other than that, I feel my jaw is too weak compared to that of women I think are beautiful.
>>5672102
I'm much faster now, It used to take an hour or so, sometimes three or four, but now I don't have to pretend to be a guy topping his gf. Shame for my partner I guess.
>>5672027
no definitely not, too many people
>>5672128
You're not post op tho
>>5672140
Or trans
>>5672155
fanny = pusc in brit slang m8
>>5672144
No clue what that is desu, but I don't really know any trans people, and mostly hang out with straight white people
>>5672155
>elanna i wanna make u cum ^_^
Y-you too
>i dont understand ur slang lad
Damn yanks..
>>5672161
we should've nuked london instead of nagasaki desu
>>5672167
do you think you can cum from penetration?
how tall r u again
>>5672169
wtf dude
>>5672167
is it finally time for you to post your soles? please
>>5672180
desu landan is a shit hole
-yorkshire
>>5672192
fuck northeners
t. south east posh cunt
>tfw tiny body but massive head
I literally look like a bobble head