/mtfg/ where ugly boys make pretty girls

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first for please cheer up girls

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Is that sheen?

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Hi y'all!
I self-injected estrogen for the first time!
I did break two ampules before finally getting it right...there goes 2 weeks of estrogen...

>>5188714
>ugly boys make pretty girls
Lies!
>>5188721
Septums!

>>5188721
yay

I started injecting 2 weeks ago, and my boobs got more tender like immediately, 2 years in

like i mightve just put on a few pounds but im pretty sure in 2 weeks time my A cup is filling in the gaps that were there..

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>have work soon
>my turmmy hurts

;~;

Oh god I came out to my mother and she said she's accepting, but now she seems surprised and upset when I more openly discuss feminine stuff, or when I dress a lot more androgynous, etc?
Just what le fuckkk mom

>>5188714
i cried when i saw eggman
7/7

Long time listener, first time caller, haha... Not sure where to ask but I'm starting to get a little more serious about the idea of transition or HRT. I'm not sure how to ask so I'd probably shorten the questions to

1. Can I get HRT to just be more androgynous? Like... non binary or something like that?

2. If I'm starting to lose my hair, will HRT help with treating male pattern baldness (kind of a side objective)?

I miss parrothitler

Never thought i could have so much fun with a silicon dick in my bathroom. while showering. holy shit, it was so cash.

>>5188733
I'm actually kinda glad that HRT made me even more andro. I identify as non binary, so, sure! If you take hrt you can still find ways to be andro!

>>5188733
Yes & yes.

>>5188736
She posted at the end of the last thread.

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>>5188741
>she

>>5188700
You wouldn't believe how hard I'm trying right now. But all i seem to do every day is play dota and daydream and cry about fictional stuff/the implications fiction has on my (probably) non-fictional life. I'm sort of a massive disappointment anyway and I'm sorry that i won't ever make you proud.
>>5188701
That's, uh, neat.

>>5188728
I want injections for this reason but I'm afraid of mood swings

つ ◕_◕ ༽つ gib bf pls

gf is ok too

hi where are all the hot boys???

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AYYY tell me what you plan on doing today
I have to clean my room, clean windows (all 12 of them ._.), shower, masturbate, call friends, eat, read three books, print out scripts and so on
>>5188721
I don't get why people inject. You get a huge peak for a few days and end up with super low levels after a week, which is super unfortunate for the development of female secondary sex characteristics. Well, at least in theory
>>5188714
sheen is pretty but her face is too big for that women

>>5188754
That's why I plan to inject every 5 days, I'll see how it turns out

I plan on writing a précis of a book, have my D&D session, read and write for a proposal.

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>>5188752
find me a bf jormy and i will find you one

Am i the only one who gets incredibly happy about small things? Like this stupid mug with cows on it from my grandma, i just love it! Or some small things friends gave me, i literally hug those things

>>5188739

Sweet! So now how do I explain non binary in such a way to get HRT to a doctor or therapist? I don't think he's going to turn on me but I should frame it in such a way that makes sense to whoever he answers to. I haven't really seen it covered in the usual links on here. Sorry if I might be too many questions

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>>5188752
>>5188753
I wish there was just like a bf store, where they just handed out bfs and stuff

>>5188764
not sure. I diy my hormones

>>5188754
People on injections always seem to have good results

>>5188758
W-what about the guy at work?

>>5188765
Government issued bfs/gfs when?

>>5188754
Do you live in a mansion? I'm working on voice and doing research that I've put off for days

>>5188772
i don't get it
>>5188771
>People on injections always seem to have good results
yeah thats true.

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>>5188771
I don't think he likes me

I miss my boyfriend...He's probably cuddling with his other partner now
I can't even get a date...

everyone post your favorite anon

>>5188785
Definitely anon # 3
She can be a cunt sometimes, but she's still my fav.

>>5188785
you <3

>>5188785
probably fireworks anon :3

probably the one who calls me megahon. So tsundere

>>5188785
...there's more than one?

I'm 20 been on hrt for about 7 months now.
I'm 5'5 and 135.
I have decent breast growth.
Like I can feel the breast tissue.
it feels like I have tangerines sitting ontop of thin small slap jack pancakes.
I guess the flap jacks will eventually swell up.
Anyways my question is that I really want to loose 30-35 pounds then gain 15 pounds.
So I can lose weight and redistribute some fat.
The sweet spot on dieting for me were I can maintain weight loss and get decent results is consuming no more than 800-1000 calories a day.
I'm scared if I do this I will hurt my breast growth.
So my actual question is will being on a large calorie deficit affect actual breast tissue development.
I'm not talking about growth in fat, just tissue.
Mind you in eating at least 50 grams of protien and taking s multivitamin to help with the deficit.
Please say something if you know. Don't reply if you are going to say o don't need to be losing weight.

Tldr: does dieting affect breast tissue growth?

If you ain't shooting it ur wasting ur time. I'm trying to get psyed cuz I got mine to do today. God damn every five days and id be a craY bitch. I'm supposed to do mine every seven days and I normally go like eight or nine. I like feeling the drop and the peanut oil rush afterwords.

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Anyone else here love wearing leather?

>>5188794
Lol ur 135 ur like me ain't got no room for weight loss.

Gallon of milk a day. It's all going to my ass and chest. Eat girl. I'm 511kek and I got down to 128 I looked like shit. Well I was on drugs. I'm at 142 eating my ass off and drinking as much milk as I can. You don't have any fat to burn. Bulk if on hrt it looks more feminine.

>>5188794
>it feels like I have tangerines sitting ontop of thin small slap jack pancakes
This is a really funny description.

With 800 to 1000 calories a day you are well into the crash-diet territory. Those never end well no matter the goal. Prolonged large caloric deficits are simply not good on your body.
The tissue development will continue no matter how much you starve yourself. As for the size, it's anyone guess. Bear in mind that breasts are 80% fat and are the first to go with caloric deficit. Also bear in mind that actual distribution of fat on your body is mostly a game of chance. It might go to your midsection, your ass, your breasts - it's anybody's guess until you actually see where it goes.
I don't think there is room for any more weight loss based on your height. With HRT taking years, you can well afford to take it slow and tweak your diet along the way.
Oh and I wouldn't put any faith in the tranny-anorexic success stories that seem to circulate around. You don't get to live on sunlight and have tits the size of basketballs.

>tfw starting hrt at >18
>tfw doomed to underdeveloped cone tits

>>5188718
but how can I when I have the worst face of any trip
eggman has more passing potential than me

>>5188730
>tfw was always a total faggot around parents so won't get more feminine in tastes & mannerisms after coming out

>>5188754
about to shower and then go out and eat gourmet burgers

>>5188764
if you're in the UK, self-med tbqh
at least for the first six months, then they can't force you off it

>>5188785
the one that doesn't constantly tell me how much they hate me

>>5188801
I really need to buy some when I get $$$
Leather butch femme may be one of the few looks I could come close to pulling off

>>5188794
I also stumbled upon this (all credit goes to reddit).

http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/

It seems to be a diet and exercise program for a 5'6'', 210 lbs, manlet roid monkey who decided to transition. You might find some useful info there.

>>5188783
Whats your voice sound like? Do you have a decent personality?

All women are whores, why do you all want to be whores?
Genuine curiosity.

>>5188830
We don't want to be whores, we already are ;)

>mfw after one week of estrogen my nipples have already changed shape and breast tissue gotten more dense, idk my levels but I assume I had low T, and I possibly already had gyno
>way better emotionally, haven't gone down to the lake in 4 days
...
>dysphoria over voice and facial hair has doubled in strength
nice

>>5188825
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MfbugKYL8d
I'm really shy, but generous with people and always ask them questions about themselves when I meet them

>>5188825
who needs personality when you have a sick scandinavian indie/folk rare CD singles collection like mine?

>>5188834
That sounds similar to me
Interesting

Who else is a late bloomer? I remember in middle school all my male friends were getting hit by puberty hard and I didnt even grow hair under my arms until my tenth year.
ALSO I am a hungry skeleton and need help with my diet. No matter what I eat I cant get over 115lbs. I dont care too much about having large breasts, I just need fat for my face to reshape. Also butt gains would be great.

>>5188834
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MfbugKYL8d
>brown fox good 1

also...
uhh...I dont know why i'm telling y'all this but last night some drunk guy sat on the bench near me and he started grabbing my thigh and putting my hand near his crotch. I felt so used and gross...

where's your game

>>5188834
You sound shy which is cute so I'm sure you'll find someone.

>>5188843
Thats when you walk away. Dont let that happen to yourself.

>>5188845
Marmo pls go

>>5188847
it's kinda hard to walk away from a loud and big drunk guy...I was scared

>>5188801
I like wearing this thin, thick, heavy cotton stuff like parkas and autumn-jackets. I want a leather jacket sooooo bad but i'm broke. It's on my list of things i want to buy

>>5188843
My closest friend had to go through that.
It was to the point where the guy was about to follow through with penetration, then she broke down in tears and ran away.
Don't let that happen to yourself hun

>>5188850
Then run and find a group to hide with or find help you fragile little thing.

>>5188843
Don't worry thats normal, girls have like a million stories just like that, unfortunately.

>>5188843
Oh my... yes that happend to me aswell. Many, many times.
Like, this one time i was in the subway and some really small, fat, hairy turkish guy sat across me, touched his dick and grabbed my knee. I didn't want to make a noise cause my voice was cracking all the time back then and just closed my eyes and put my feet to my stomach for the whole ride. I cried and apparantly it made him hornier. Should have noticed something was up, cause someone grabbed my butt when i was entering the subway. He continued looking me in the eyes, masturbating through his pants and grabbing all parts of me the whole 40 min ride.
I still think about it, even though nothing happend, and end up crying and feeling like shit for days.

Talk with your friends/partner/therapist about it.

>>5188729
That happens a lot to me...
Except I also feel like puking and end up gagging a lot at work.

>Be stocking shit
>Loading tools onto cart
>"hueeeeeeeeh"
>Stop to recollect myself
>Rinse repeat...

so my parents are probably going to force me to go to the hairdressers at some point when I go home for christmas by withholding things from me until I do it

how should I get it cut? I think I need bangs but idk what to do with the back and sides
also how do I ask for a more feminine cut when, like p much everyone else in the community, the town hairdresser is a personal friend of my father?

>tfw hair still too short
i look forward to the day where I can pass by just hiding my face behind my hair

>>5188886
Get it cut before you go home where you ask for a more feminine style, or just don't give in.

>>5188886
L O B
O
B

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>>5188894

>>5188886
I kinda just wear beanies to make myself look more feminine.
You could try that for a suggestion

>>5188898
wut

>>5188897
hmm true though they may demand I get it cut again (which would mean a lot shorter then) if they don't like it

in any case bangs is a good idea, right??? you've all seen my ridiculous middle-aged-man parting what shows off my receding hairline, straight-down bangs or w/e would suit me better and cover my forehead and brow, yes?? I'm concerned that blending that in at the sides might leave me with a horsehoe shape at the front, what different options are there, are there technical words I should know?

>>5188901
can't find hats that fit, 26.5 inch circ. head

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>>5188899

>>5188906
No clue about it then.
Beanies can kinda stretch though and be smaller n stuff right?

>>5188906
>hmm true though they may demand I get it cut again (which would mean a lot shorter then) if they don't like it
My parents were the same, hell even my friends complained that my hair looked awful and short hair suited me better, don't really have any advice other than try to ignore it.

>>5188909
I think I see a bit of muff there.
Actually that's quite a patch.

>>5188915
Is that against the rulez?

Kinda want my hair this long tbhon.

>>5188886
Just get it cut at a salon beforehand so they don't force you, it'll be cut better and in a more feminine style regardless and the hairdressers will be used to guys with longer hair so you won't end up with a terrible haircut. Most places will have books of hairstyles you can pick from or find one online and take it with you

>>5188923
wtf
but somehow I still get the feeling she's cis

>>5188917
shell be crazy

>>5188926
Those Mediterranean wimmin mang...

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>Tfw I finally found a way to do my hair day to day that looks kinda cute
thank fuck

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So last night was amazing. I ended coming out to my family right before they went out of town and my friends threw me a surprise coming out party. It was super fun. I got to make jokes about sucking dick around my str8 friends and not worry about looking like a huge faggot. Everything feels so much happier and lighthearted now that I don't have to pretend to be a boy any more and can unapologetically be Korra full time now. n.n /blog

>>5188923
pfft, I had more [spoiler];_;[/spoiler]

>>5188931
post pics cuz ur cute

>>5188923
Jesus christ...

>>5188927
>Not wanting hair down to your butt
lol

>>5188906
LOB = long bob
it's p versatile and can look fem if you want it to and by that I mean it is a fem cut obvs, but you can work as a male. Just depends on how high the line is going back.
Not sure about your fringe situation though

>>5188932
>be Korra full time now
yay congrats gurl

I can't decide if I should get up or accept my fate and become one with my bed
>>5188932
Comgrabtulnations!

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>>5188935
>cute
thanks but I'm not sure if I agree
although my hair is admittedly looking better
man my face looks weird in these photos
http://imgur.com/a/UJzSE
I think it's not perfect but it's still very good given my job's hair restrictions

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>>5188940
When my mom told me that she's going to love her new daughter no matter what I'd knew that I'd make it. ^_^

>>5188944
Ty sis ~

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>>5188920
hmm yeah that's true, I'll have to look for places in my city

my wording was kinda dumb so like here's a pic
left one is what I DON'T want 'cause I think it's too severe and stuff and where the bangs meet the longer hair is too sharp
I had difficulty finding pics of what I want but the bangs on the right one are kinder closer to what I want, a bit messier, but idk about the sides and back idk what to do with them so I'll probably just keep growing the rest out for now
it's where the bangs meet the hair at the sides I'm most worried about, that it'll be too severe even if they try and make it curve downwards
idk the terminology :P

I just have fuckin gross hair

>>5188945
One of my friends and my ex have that haircut
Looks good on you

>>5188932
w00t!

>>5188939
that's pretty much what I have atm, haven't you seen my pics? that's kind of the problem, it show off my forehead and caveman brow atm

>>5188945
>http://imgur.com/a/UJzSE
it looks good on you peach! good work <3

>>5188945
Wow you do look cute peachy. This is a very flattering photo desu o.o

>>5188953
Ty as well °v°

>>5188953
>haven't you seen my pics?
nope, that's why I said I didn't know about your fringe ;3
Uh, well shit, if you already have a lob then your fringe is the only thing you need to work on.
That pic you posted btw, the fringes are cut in the same way (different length) just styled differently. Freja's hair is just goddess-tier but if you want it like that you'll have to style it like that.

>>5188956
>>5188959
>>5188951
aww, thanks!
And I guess I do look a bit like a literal peach, with my hair being the color it is

>>5188962
huh fair enough
prepare yourself though, I'm literally the ugliest trip here according to everyone including myself
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it's actually pushed back at the sides towards my ears a bit there so it's a bit longer at the sides than it seems there, but you can see why I need a fringe.

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>>5188964
You have very clean features and that hairstyle really highlights them desu. Don't let bully anons meme on u. U r quite the catch. Keep it up w/e ur doing b/c its obvs working

waking up full of depression and dysphoria and seeing a gross hopeless man in the mirror and I can't even explain it, my hair is growing well and male hairline shows potential of refilling at the temples- I can feel baby hairs on the receded parts. My facial fat has started redistributing, rounding out my face, my butt has got bigger and my boobs are coming along well enough. Bodyhair has thinned and is already turning blonde. My skin has turned so soft. I never get morning wood and I cum like 3 drops of clear liquid at most if I bother doing that. Laser is progressing really well. I've sorted out some dates for surgical stuff for my face already.

I shouldn't feel like this. I just shouldn't.

>>5188974
Haha, thanks
I'm really self-concious because I had to shave the sides of my head for a job
Do you think I could pass eventually?

Also, in unrelated news
>getting fitter every day
yessss
and all this leg work is making my hips seem bigger (!) while also making my legs bigger and my abs more defined
I'm so hyped

>>5188975
iktf I accidentally saw myself in the mirror after coming out the shower just now and spent like 10 minutes freaking out and examining every tiny thing wrong with my body in it

BONNIEBONNIEBONNIEBONNIE

B O N N I E
O
N
N
I
E

i know that none of u know what the fuck I'm talking about but it doesn't EVEN matter rn

>>5188973
eh you're not that bad, you have decent features except chin and brow but those are almost always bad on girls like us.
I would not go for a straight across fringe, I'd definitely leave the sides longer so it's like a ^ shape, no blunt cuts and make sure to get it really textured.
Get some dry shampoo btw, it's amazing for texture and quick styling if you don't want to bother with it.
>>5188975
Even after 5 years I still feel like that, especially when I see my downstairs. It takes so much for the brain to stop trying to see our past selves ;~;

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>>5188975
Its OK anon-chan. Its going to take a little bit of time before your outside matches how you feel inside. Just don't give up, okay? You're doing great so far andood swings are common on hrt. You're currently on the process of making it sis.

I'd hug you and say everything is gunna be OK if I could . . .

>>5188979
Tbh u can almost pass rn. At a glance u look like a very pretty and feminine boy
If that's you presenting male then holy crackers is your female presentation going to be a knockout out. And yeah getting /fit/makes you *feel* better in body and mind so I'm glad for you!

>>5188981
Iktf. I think we all have to work past that point.

>>5188979
You shouldn't have told korra you're working out BEWARE

>>5188990
wait
why

>>5188721
good for you!!
its really no that hard after the first time, although i dont think mine are like yours.
did your nurse/doctor show you before the first time?
or do you self-med?
>>5188747
moodswings is BS
>>5188754
it's more of an immediate peak, then steady levels until a day or two before it's time for your next injection, the way it works, you get much steadier levels over-all than with pills

>>5188948
I'm eternally at war with my hair, you just have to find something that fits you which will probably take a lot of trial and error, in the meantime just wash and condition it regularly, and don't over do it with styling products or heat

>>5188988
could you post pics?? I'm struggling to understand what that would look like :P
also you should see my profile before you say I don't look that bad desu

just took a new photo, slightly damp hair. this is how much length I actually have at the sides.
http://pasteboard
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you see how flat and shapeless it is at the sides? really struggling to figure out how to style it that could be achievable every day and that would suit me instead of looking like a wig.

>>5189002
yeah I'm scared about trial and error because it took 2.5 years to grow it from the top of my ears to pic in link... my hair grows very slowly. good wrt body hair, bad wrt this.

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>>5188992
She's memeing on you lmao. I have a tender spot for /fit/ girls (hence the namesake) and you mentioned it. But dw sis I'm not an agp chaser ( but I do ironacilly hit on close friends of mine here for giggles.) although I can admit that it is a bit difficult to tell at first lol.

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>>5189007
Oh shit I remember that comic.

also (warning for lewdness)
http://pasteboard.co/1XxUPPk9.jpg
I'm 1 week into estrogen?? and was pretty much flat-chested at the start?? but had hard lumps behind the nipples which I guess may have been gyno?? but my chest has visibly grown in the first week of estrogen which is not meant to be a thing that happens wtf???

>>5189007
Hey, it's all good
besides, I'm not part of the group that thinks that all trans people that like other trans people are AGP, or all people that are into trans-ness are chasers
Yes though, I am slowly working to become /fit/ because I think it'll help with my physique. I'm just trying very hard to not work out my shoulders at all so that I don't make my shoulders look bigger

>>5188989
>>5188988
>>5188981

i think the thing is I don't feel much 'like a woman' today, i don't feel much of anything, and that feels worse of all. I haven't felt this jaded since before I started HRT and that really worries me. I'm not giving up, ever, at all, but my drive has gone. I'm not gonna end up doing my best today, it's going to be the bare minimum to get by. I'm failing myself.

the downstairs issue is just overwhelming and my voice is pure awfulness. oh god. i've had a lot of positives going on in my life recently and i've been using them to feel better but no matter how good things get i can't ever escape the fact i'm a fucked up broken person.

>>5189010
It can happen

>>5189010
lose weight(you can crash diet if you need to)
then gain it back after 3 mos
it'll reposition your fat and stuff but you have to lose it first

Best thing at the start of my transitioning I got super sick, lost a ton of weight, then started gaining some back, distributing into nice places

>>5189010
lookings bretty big senpai
it could be just manboob fat. usually growth is centered more around middle

>>5189017
I thought redistribution started at ~6 months?

>>5189016
nice

>>5188736
If I don't kill myself by the end of this month I might consider shitposting and trolling here again.

>>5189021
For me it was very fast but I think it depends on the person

>>5189021
That tends to form not in the good way though, ends up looking like fat, gravity ignoring lumps rather than breasts if you aren't careful

How many of you girls have a decent amount of cis female friends?

>>5189028
me
I have like ~5

>>5189028
I only make cis female friends.
Have bad luck with guys, and even worse luck with trans-girls / trans-guys

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Good morning ladies! <3

Brother's coming over today to chill, I never see him cause he's a dick and is always out partying. Haven't come out to him and don't want him to know so I gotta hide all my girl stuff :x He's not gonna use my computer but should I change my background just in case?

So dysporia n' stuff only gets worse with time right?

>>5189029
Disclaimer: I'm drunk as fuck right now.
Did you feel like they treat you like their other female friends?

>>5189029
post butte when tho

>>5189028
What are friends?

>>5189030
The struggle is real, sis

>>5189035
I'm not out
but
they've always treated me as they would any other of their friends. They are comfortable being nude around me and stuff, and they don't treat me differently because I'm "the dude" or anything.

>>5189036
I already did, wognor-san

>>5189039
Where d-did you post it?

who /too tall to pass/ here??

6'1 reporting

>>5188843
I'm really sorry that happened to you. Being sexually assaulted is awful and makes you feel so gross inside

>>5189039
I wish mine would do that... One of my best friends thought I was flirting with her and didn't believe I wasn't into girls...

>>5189020
well it's definitely near the centre it's changed the most, hard to capture that in the pic 'cause my skin's so pale and featureless you can't see the gradients easily lol
used to have manboobs bigger than this in high school but I lost weight, and have been crash dieting again recently, so I've been veering spoopy skellington mode the last few weeks, this chest business is incongruous. there seems to be about half an inch extra outwards now, it's happened quickly enough I can feel the difference compared to last week before I started. my female relatives are all DD and upwards so maybe that's why and I'm going to get mega milks :-| not good for stealth-transitioning

>>5189027
well that's pretty shitty, I'm only on 2mg estrogen though so idk what I can do

>>5189028
pretty much all my friends are cis females, with a couple of exceptions
always been that way :P never fitted in with male social activities and stuff.

>>5189043
Here
old pic but whatever
http://i.imgur.com/xT83TZf.jpg

>>5189050
hng!!!!

>>5189038
Completely.

>>5189044
6'0 still growing...
I'm 18 this isnt fair

>>5189049
Holy shit that is a small amount...
Oh well

>>5189050
Nice 8-)

>>5189005
I would mate but I'm posting on a phone, I'm lying in bed not wanting to start my day.
Look up something like half-moon bangs or just hit up pinterest to see the long sides I mean. Also, damp hair looks shit anyway, don't know what you want from it. Flat and shapelessness only goes away if you style it with some nice products. I mean, what's your daily routine? Do you just let it dry and leave? Look into Biotin if you want it to grow faster.
>>5189015
I always thought I wouldn't need to speak to a therapist about my feelings especially with this side of my life but after a few years it got to be too much. Venting on here is one thing but you might really need to see a therapist to accept things.
My voice was a huge factor for feeling like shit, but in time I got better at it and when I sounded fine to myself I started to feel better in general.
It's like.. you clock yourself, the one person that you don't want clocking you and it feels worse than death. I wish I could do more for you. Reach out for someone irl, please.

g'morning mtfg

I got a little too drunk last night and don't rlly remember everything

wuts up with u?

>>5189024
I really hope that you don't kill yourself but also that you find a better use of your times than shitposting on 4chan and trying to project your pain onto others, that will never make it better, only distract temporarily

>>5189031
g'morning! hope he's not a dick this time
he might ask about that background if he sees it tho if he doesn't know pokemon you could probably blow it off

>>5189032
unless u do something about it

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>>5189009
It bought a rare smile™ on my face. Its so weird to be happy after years and years of suicidal depression .

>>5189012
Well if that's the case you're alot better off than some of the girls here desu :xx

>>5189015

Aren't we all just a little fuxked up tho? Iktf anon-chan. Would you like to vent somewhere privately? Venting is really healthy and helps to get the icky feelings out I promise. . .

>>5189028
Eh I have a few but we aren't like super close or anything

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>>5189062
You just reminded me of the fact that I'm doing a marcelline cosplay in a bit
I can't wait to build that damn guitar, it's gonna be cool as fuck

>>5189054
yeah exactly, if I had been impatient and had started on 6mg I'd understand but as it stands I guess I must have just had really female hormone levels already, which is weird given my facial hair etc.

>>5189044
I'm 5ft8 and feel like a giant but I'm not sure how much of it's just in my head
>>5189031
I wouldn't worry about it, it's go over most people heads unless they were familiar with trans stuff, I just had a workman read the electricity meter in my room which is right next to where I store my hrt and he didn't notice anything. I hope things go well for you.

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>first ever date with a cis girl in an hour

Jesus Christ how horrifying. Idk wtf to even do or say. I-is this n-normie problems?! ;_;

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http://time.com/3856405/baby-name-popularity/

Chelsea is a cute name. Kristyn tho?? vom

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>>5189066
Normie reee etc.

>>5189064
I started a lot on injections.
I dont know though desu
Im kinda lost on a lotta things

>>5189066
talk to her
like a normal person
I've dated tons of people before and my best advice I can give you is:
just act normal

>>5189068
What the fuck happened
In 1910

>>5189073
Lmao ikr

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>>5189062
Adventure Time was so much better than Korra.

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>>5189063
That actually sounds rad AF. Pls post pics of it when ur done. I too, am building a cosplay and the character is my namesake Korra from LoK.

>>5189068
Maddie <3 gud morning bae n.n I can vouch for Chelsea desu tbqh senpai :P

>>5189069
X.x ur killin me anon-chan. KILLIN me

>>5189072
>just act normal
Normal "normal" or this general's idea of "normal"?

>>5189061
same here :/ also I hope he showers today :x
and he loves Pokemon as much as I do...I think I'm gonna change it just in case cause I'd rather him not get any ideas

>>5189075
A rebellious phase.

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>>5189072
Ok OK. Ugh so nervous tho. This has been such a cray cray week but I'll try and be myself around her and put all that shit aside for now

>>5189076
Yeah, well, that's just like, ya know, your opinion man. /the dude

>>5189072
>I've dated tons of people before
Sloot
>>5189077
Hi Korra! Gl on your normie date

>>5188932
>filename

10/10

>>5189056
yes that's exactly what it's like, even when i'm feeling good, i end up clocking myself. I think I'll see about a therapist with my clinic once that sorts itself out- I always kind of joke that the UK system is so shitty by the time my appointment comes about, my laser will be done, I'll have self medded for however long and had a nosejob, I only need them for a steady script. But I think talking to a professional would help me. I can only vent to friends so much.

>>5189062
i dropped trip to vent/cry a bit because i'm normally upbeat, but sure

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>>5189065
I hope so, I also don't figure he'll use the computer for anything but I just want to be sure cause I REEEAALLLLYYYY don't want him knowing.

I changed it to this
he'll never know :^)

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I see merc and edie (somewhat) still can't stop talking about me.
Who the hell would think I got bullied into ffs?
I did it because I was uncomfortable with myself.

I love how these rumors spread and that people still believe I'm the almighty evil anon who starts all the trouble.

Paranoia is a fickle beast.

>>5189095
So instead of thinking of you as trans he'll be thinking of you as a spaz?

>>5188932
uh hey WHAT?? girl. how did it go with your senpai omg???

>>5189107
lmao ur f a m

>>5189104
>tfw trans AND spaz
https://vid
.me/KJra

;-;

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>>5189084
Hey vivi I know we're really similar so lemme ask u. Why don't u come out to your brother?

>>5189090
Maddie help pls becoming a normie and its scary. I just wanna stay home and play video games and watch kawaii animes ;_;

>>5189092
I stole it from some anon in a thread last night. Official credit to anon-chan™

>>5189093
Anon-chan u shouldn't ever feel so preasured by anyone where u have to keep up a public Persona or maintain a facade. It fucks u up so much in the long run and its a massive drain on us transgirls already limited reserves of ment strenfth. Like they say, haters gonna hate so u might as well keep it 100% and not even stress about them desu tbqh. U don't have to feel hated or ashemed of urself I care about your well-being. Some bitter and petty ppl just can't let shit go and want to ruin everyone's good time. Those are the ones u pity and ignore. *hugs* its gunna be OK ur lovely and worthwhile and important OK?? Never forget that

>>5189065
well I'm 5'10 and pass in heels even tho I'm ugly

>>5189066
good luck!
try to relax, just treat them like a person, talk about your interests and experiences and look for overlap, stuff will develop as it does and you just go with the flow

>>5189076
steven universe > all

>>5189084
just light some incense or spray him with something!
I haven't played pokemon since way back at like ruby/saphire tho maybe I should get one of the new ones, my partner and just recently got super smash bros tho we've had 3dses since last christmas
u could also take the opportunity to clean up the outlines of the characters on that background

>>5189101
Here's your "you"

>>5189121
Hey I'm glad it went well with your senpai. It's nice to know that things don't have to be all bad. I hope it goes that well for everyone.

Regular Show > all

>tfwywn be Eileen ;~;
>tfw no Rigby bf
>jdimsa

>>5189125
Well I guess people need their enemies.
Face it most of the people here have very sad lives.

>>5189104
yea
he's pretty meme-tastic too so it's ok

>>5189121
he was always the aggressor when we were kids even though I was older so he'd bully me, steal my shit, push me around, stuff like that and I'd rather him not act all dick like. He also is married to a fucking crazy ass bitch and she will definitely try to say shit cause she lives off starting drama. She told my ex when we had started dating that I molested my brother when we were kids just to start shit.

>>5189122
lol I may go grab a candle haha
You should definitely play X and Y! They have a thing where now you can go to stores and buy clothes for your character and it's so awesome to play dress-up! They also have a bunch of new Pokemon that are actually good and the bad guys are really well done and the music is amazing
AND YEA I KNOW I'M SORRY T_T I was just really lazy at the time and haven't gotten around to fix it up

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>>5189116
t b h

>>5189121
thanks Korra. My identity is very shaky right now and having people here makes a difference on a bad day. I guess I haven't had a bad day in so long, so it feels worse than it is.

Good luck on your date!

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>>5189107
Well we got into a big argument St first because I was explosively angry. But after it calmed down and everyone apologized. . . .my f a m was like "duh we knew u were a huge fag for years lmao we've been knowing and we dont care we love u regardless dummy." And then they left to go on a preplanned roadtrip (they offered me to go but I refused cuz I wanted to sulk like an edgy teen lol ) but later on I told my mom thru text msgni was also trans and not a boy but a girl and dnt treat me like a boy and to call me Korra. She was like r u sure?? And we said ilu and I'm sorry to each other and made up. Then I went to a surprise coming out party for me was a massive fag there (no lewd or anything just drinking with friends)and came back home. The end lol

>>5189140
tbf I used to get "Ian Watkins" before I was finished losing weight so really that's an improvement

tfw I need to go shopping but it's SO cold and SO rainy outside
fucking UK

>>5189143
OMG <3 i'm so happy for you
>>5189142
uhh hi. ilu. also, sometimes just doing the bare minimum to get by is ok. you're allowed to just exist for a day. your boymode is failing and you are gonna make it.

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>>5189140
That bored bro?

>>5189137
I'm also interested in that like yokai whatever game that's like the new pokemon in japan

what are the best exercises to get a hot bod

>>5189160
depends on wut u wanna work on, hot bod can be kinda subjective

>>5189160
sleep

>>5189160
By playing really bad games

>>5189162
i wanna be really skinny
like super skinny

>>5189160
sex

>>5189157
ah yea I think I've seen some stuff about that one looks bretty gud

wow that was prescient, my mum suddenly messaged me "how long is your hair now?" out of nowhere
guess they're really going to push it this time
it's not fair they'd never do this to my sister ;-; why can't just be treated like their daughter without having to come out URRGGGGGH

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>>5189122
Ty E I will try. She is rly special to me and we are cosplay partners and both massive weebs so it should be on I think but when I'm not pretending to be a boy my social skills are aspie tier

>>5189128
Me too anon-chan, me too. And ty

>>5189137
O shit that's insane I'm so sorry u had to go thru that. Fuck that stupid cunt desu She is toxic as heck.

>>5189142
Its OK u are wonderful and when I notice someone crying out for help and attention I make it my top priority to help them as best I can b/c I know how shitty it is tongo thru that alone. as someone who's attempted suicide twice and was depressed for over 20 I know it when I see it.

>>5189152
Ty ilu bb ;v;

>>5189166
>tfw want to be skinny but big ribcage means even in skellington mode your torso still looks bulky
everything ever is terrible

Should i write my endo that i'm going nuts, having panic attacks, punch the walls, scream at people with the new meds?
I really need GnRH-analoga again but i need to wait 3 weeks again... will he call the psych ward on me?

>>5189160
The ones that you actually do.

also I want to come out to everybody on facebook because pretty much everyone I've got on there either already knows, would be okay with it or isn't close enough with me to really care
but my fucking parents google & search for my name on social media every few months to check I'm not up to no good
REEEEEEE I'M 21 NEXT MONTH I AM AN ADULT

>>5189170
>why can't just be treated like their daughter without having to come out URRGGGGGH
lol answered your own question
Just say your new "gf" loves it, "if you know what I mean"
and get them to drop it
Now, find someone to pose as her.
good luck

>>5189166
well assuming u wanna be healthy and not a spoopy skelington then u want a lot of low-impact exercise so u don't build but can burn and u want to adjust your diet to be lower in stuff that can contribute to added mass like a lot of protein and carbs, keep in mind that u still need those things u just gotta limit them

>>5189169
yeah it's really popular over there and I like them using more traditional mythological creatures and stuff, I forget when it's coming out in the west tho it's available for pre-order

>>5189174
well try to think of her like u usually do then! pretend ur about to go to some cosplay thing or something and are just talking about yourselves and each-other and shared interests to pass the time

>>5189174
yea pretty much. I'm just glad I hardly have to deal with them. idk I just can't wait until he realizes what position he's in and divorces her stupid ass.

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>>5189182
Honestly u should just tell them and let what happens happen. The more u hide it and stay silent the more ull get stressed. They probably already know desu but wanna wait till u tell them urself desu senpai

>>5189182
So change your facebook name

>>5189182
hiding it never helps, tell them in whatever way you find easiest. and the sooner the better it will be for you

I tried to hide it, to the point I broke down at 19 and ended up in hospital over it - coming out may be difficult but it's better than hiding it and ending up in that kind of situation.

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>so autistic and nervous that I get ready ONE DAY early for my date

JUST

>>5189190
yes I love traditional Japanese stuff tbhon, like Okami <3

morning faggots

what happened?

>>5189174
we have the same experiences with depression and suicide. I feel a lot better now, I went for a walk. The clouds parted, I live at the mouth of a river so I walked along the quay, saw sunlight on the high tide water, felt the wind in my hair, it was beautiful. I stared out downriver a bit, started crying, felt a lot better and came home.

>>5189152
ha gaaaaay ilu2 Maddie

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>>5189219
You ever play Oreshika?

>>5189219
I just like mythology stuff in general, not super particular about origin, some russian/slavic stuff is breddy cool like magic fern flowers and the best lich
okami is fun and pretty

RREEEEEEE ANIME POSTING LESBIANS LEAVE!!!!!!

>>5189230
Butts were posted. Lives ruined. And zombies!

who wants to fuggggg?????

>>5189246
I want to fug a trip

>>5189242
pretty sure most here are bi and kayla is straight

>>5189248

>>5189251
Hey sexy

>>5189243
called it.

>>5189252
hi bby r u degenerate transbian like me?

>>5189063
>Guitar
It's a bass. Nothing more embarrassing that ending up with the wrong prop

>>5189254
I... I lied about the butts...

>>5189233
no I'm not that uguu :(

>>5189237
ah ok yea! Like one thing I love that I never see enough of is traditional South American stuff. I was always fascinated with the Mayans and Incas and Aztecs and all the other tribes there but there isn't a lot of modern day stuff that focuses on it

>>5189254
no, call ME

>>5189256
well I mean technically... it could be called a bass guitar but good looking out for her

>>5189133
ANGINONYMOUS

>>5189262
That's because it is one

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So if I decide to not continue my transition because I will never get a voice or pass how do I deal with dysphoria?

I'm gonna do cute boy and kill myself when it gets unbearable.

>>5189267
Just transition you faggot

>>5189267
You'll probably try to transition when it gets unbearable because that's easier than killing yourself.
We don't know how to deal with dysphoria except transitioning.

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>>5189263
We all need enemies anon.
Everyone here has one.
As I said before, nothing will ever change.
Drama will still exist on this board.
Trips will drop to go anon to save reputations.

>>5189257
i knew it

>>5189261
gimme them digits


>>5189262
yeah technially but they're stil radically different instruments

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>>5189273
I can't.
>>5189274
>you will probably try to transition when you're 25
ha ha ha ha
It's already unbearable but I feel like cute boy is better than gross hon.

>>5189277
DJ Sagara really needs to start doing mtfg updates, there's way too much happening to keep up

>>5189229
You're pretty fucking weird

>>5189277
Angie, honey, I'm not even tryingto be rude, but what reputation do you have?
Like everyone round here, rightly or wrongly, just knows you as crazy old Angie - is that what you want?

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>>5189281
DJ Sagara is the best character.
Forget about updates, we need to have dance offs and inves fights

>>5189232
Glad to hear it!

>>5189279
Why can't you?
Look, seriously do not be a retard, just take one look at Kayla - do you want to be like that?
She could be a fucking princess by now if she'd have just not kept trying to deny herself.

Even if you think you'll never pass do not EVER stop taking your skittles.

>>5189278
teach me how to geetar

>>5189284
We all have bad reputations honey

>>5189278
yeah I was being super technical like my shredz bb

>>5189293
Amen, sister, amen.

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>>5189287
I'm already like Kayla, she's way better off than me though, i'm like the most manly thing ever.

>Even if you think you'll never pass do not EVER stop taking your skittles.
I won't, I will be cute boy on hormones with tits.
Been taking them for over two years so why stop.

>>5189297
wait, Michelle?

How many of you have forward head posture from all this computer use? It's decidedly unfeminine.

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>>5189299
No, people always think i'm Michelle when I post though.

>>5189291
u just gotta shred

>>5189294
U SHreD???

fuk, my browser crashed and I lost muh post

>>5189259
there's a reason for that beyond just lack of popularity, a lot of their culture and records were destroyed continuing to this day with historical sites being destroyed to pave the way for destructive mining and lumber and construction operations to feed first world demand and local corruption

I rlly love that stuff too tho, I wanna get or make a little statue of the prince of seven flowers

>>5189293
wuts my bad reputation besides being ugly?

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im in ur ladies room stealin ur thoughts

>>5189303
I have that from looking at the ground all the time.

>>5189315
aggghhhhhh makes me want to go listen to Rage Against the Machine and start an occupy movement

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It feels nice to talk in a /b/ thread about trans stuff and have no one call me a faggot or freak. Sure there were lots of begging for nudes but mostly people were curious.

I have an Idea I want to run by you mtfg. I want to write a comprehensive book on transitioning, like I mean a real deal book with interviews with doctors, scientists, and other trans people, and really get a huge amount of research into it and totally keep all hon crap out of it. I want to make the hitchhikers guide to transition. Something even cis people could pick up and read. What do you think?

>>5189305
Post self and we'll give you tips. I refuse to believe you can't at least pass - even if you'll never be a princess. Even fucking Potsy can pass and she dances around with that fucking flower crown and 5stone of extra weight.

There's hope for you.

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>unironically transitioning instead of just dealing with dysphoria
Fucking hons.

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>>5189321
Obviously a really rad idea. Writing a book is pretty difficult, but if you think you can manage it, it would definitely be worth it.

>>5189321
Why don't you write it?

Sounds like a good thing though.

>>5189321
I'd read the heck outta that, Kayla

>>5189321
That's a good idea Kayla, but that's a lot of interviews to do.

>>5189321
>kayla
>accomplishing anything of value

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>>5189321
no

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>>5189323
I can't post myself here.
I'll never pass though, 5´10" and super masculine and i'll never get a decent voice.

My shrink asked me if people gendered me male or female as if it wasn't obvious, hugboxing is cancer.
At least I won't be lonely and bullied as a cute boy.

>>5189309
.....wot actually IS shredding?

>>5189309
I shred gee
I shred tar
I shred hard.

>>5189336
if u have to ask
you'll never know

>>5189337
nice.

>>5189335
5'10 isn't that bad, certainly not enough to make u unpassable and like everyone thinks they're super masculine and will never get a decent voice

>>5189335
fucking add someone on Skype and ask them.
You're sick, we're all sick, none of us are in a position to assess ourselves. At 5'10 you are being a diva, that are ladies here at 6'6+ who would kill to be in your position. I mean it - unless you take advice from other people you are in no position to saywhether you'll never pass or not.

>tfw procrastinating doing my statistics analysis
Whats mtfg doing right now?

>>5189315
Idk, but we all have demons.

>>5189321
Don't do that
You'll just make a fool Of yourself

>>5189331
This

>>5189344
thinking about you ;)

>>5189344
Thinking about how great it must be to have qt flatmates to fug.

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>>5189342
My face is super masculine too and I look like an old man.
>>5189343
I don't have anyone I talk to on skype, only people who want me to be a boy and what am I even going to ask?
I know I don't pass and everyone confirms it by gendering me male, even my mom knows I can't pass.

Cute boy life isn't bad I think.

>>5189347
and you are?

>>5189348
we're not fugging

>>5189351
You sound like you're not even trying. Just add someone off here and ask them for tips. They will tell you if they think you won't.

>>5189344
About to go get breakfast at iHop, then try to get these stitches out and then get ready for work

>>5189344
I've just broken up with my first proper boyfriend, I think it's probably for the best

>>5189353
Just anon ):
I'm literally not anyone.

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>>5189355
No, people from here only want to talk if you're naive as fuck.

I stopped trying when I realized I can't pass and all my effort was for nothing.

who else awake at 8 am and it's fucking 57f cold as fuck

>>5189353
Oh, I was just saying that in general, no reference to your situation at all.
But since you bring it up, why exactly have they not spitroasted you yet?

>>5189346
Whats wrong with a comprehensive transition guide? There is nothing but fucking misinformation in the trans community and about trans people and a single work to clarify it all I feel would help.

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>>5189362
>57F
>cold
That's cold to you?

>>5189361
No one is going to hugbox you, have you not met the people here?
If you can't pass, they'll say you're fucked.
Do you want advice or not?

>>5189368
I have met people from here, it's 100% hugboxing unless they're anonymous.

>>5189356
iHop?

>>5189357
im sorry to hear, hope you move on in reasonable time

>>5189359
oh, ok

>>5189364
idk, its weird

>>5189365
its a good idea but would probably need multiple people on project. So to cover the science, psychology, writing and all the rest of it evenly. One person may know lots about the medical side but not about the psychological causes.
Ideally you'd want to use the strengths of multiple people to reduce workload and increase accuracy/quality of the work

>>5189367
yeah I live in a pretty warm climate. Anything below 72f and I'll shiver without a sweater

>>5189365
It's a good idea, but it's probably not going to be as easy as you would think.
>>5189372
Well there you go, go get one of the anon's to make a Skype and add you.

>>5189351
I think my face is super masculine too but it doesn't stop me

>>5189365
It could work for understanding types of clothes for body shapes, makeup for skin types but not for hrt or surgery.

You can give the pros and cons of hrt but because of each person's unique genetics, the information might not be so good for that case.

As for surgery, getting information about different procedures and who to go to would be massive. You would have to not only list the surgeries, but what surgeons perform what, their strengths and weaknesses, etc

>>5189344
working on Rock Band songs and doing laundry until my brother comes over

>>5189373
It's a chain restaurant that serves breakfast, lunch and dinner 24/7.

>>5189375
72 is hot to me

>>5189335
I'm 6'1, deep voiced, and have neanderthal face

I don't know if I should give up, but at 5'10 and with ffs and vocal surgery you'll have a decent chance of passing

>>5189233
i wanna play that desu
i love moeshit desu

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>>5189376
Why do I need someone to tell me things I already know?
>>5189377
>think
Bitch please.
>>5189387
My voice isnt deep it's just manly.
>just get ffs :)
>just get voice surgery :)
>just pass :)

>>5189390
desu desu

>>5189391
You forgot:
>just snap out of it

>>5189391
wut? most seem to agree with me besides my partner

>>5189386
>72 is hot to me
dafuck

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>>5189390
Its not really very moe, the weasel is an exception.

>>5189401
At least you don't have the face of a 40 years old man.

>>5189403
thats an exception? damn not sure i wanna play it then ;( i require a certain degree of moe in my jrpgs desu

actually i just watched a gameplay vid and idk if i would even like that game lol
but i do like moe...

>>5189395
desu

http://strawpoll.me/5943958

>>5189409
>i require a certain degree of moe in my jrpgs desu
I bet you play a female miqo'te don't you

>>5189402
I prefer the cold.
It helps having a heart of ice

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>>5189421
au ra actually but i used to play miqote yes

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>>5189409
How about Tales of Zestiria?
You got moe and some gay shota. Just like in your lewd chinese cartoons.

>>5189427
this pic is terrifying

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Aaaannnnd perfect
my computer looks like a complete normal person's computer

>>5189416
I still can't handle gore or animal abuse of any kind but I'm desensitized to a lot of other stuff.

>>5189427
>no antialiasing
I am disappointed ufufu

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>watching transition timeline
>starts with pictures of them when they're a baby

>>5189433
It is Final Fantasy.

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>>5189416
I'm not sure if it was 4chan or not that did this desu.

>>5189408
well there's always ffs,
I know I need some to feel good about myself

>>5189422
I rlly prefer cooler weather too since heat can make me sicker and I love to layer clothes even tho I overheat easily
overcast cool windy days are like my fave

>>5189440
Not all final fantasy games are bad.

>>5189439
I know right, just why

>>5189436
gore does nothing to me anymore

>>5189436
You should probably bookmark Chive, 9gag and maybe cracked.com.
You want a front of normalcy not autism.

>>5189351
I always think about how much easier life would be as a guy

And seeing cis couples is just a constant reminder of how lonely I am as a tranny

>>5189446
Yes they are. They are responsible for generations of loser weebs.

>>5189449
reddit too

>>5189449
no I'm just being memetastic and he'll get a kick out of it if he sees it cause he's legitimately got some form of autism or something

also I like cracked ;-;

>>5189416
>im kinda edgy

story
>be me in school
>in class and everyone is discussing about something
>random guy tells about how the time there are isis beheading posted on 4chan
>continues to talk about edgy stuff that happened on interweb almost everday
>am like "holy shit another 4chinner"
>look really nerdy tho
>he also goes on leddit too
>wat a pleb

>>5189439
omg yea. I don't get that either.