>tfw first boyfriend edition
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because i'm depressed and stricken with anxiety and either autistic or schizoid
>tfw you really just want to hug someone and fall asleep together but instead you're shitposting and drinking
So your partner was FtM and left you to transition? Sorry the wording just confused me a little...it sounds incredibly messy
I know what you mean though, I'm not sure I can ever forgive him for what he did, or when he did it. We're friends, but I don't know how to feel when we see each other.
Have a drink with me bexe
More than that. Since people were allowed to choose multiple things we don't know for sure how high the percent is. Because of how shitty strawpoll is when it allows "select one or more" all we can say for sure is that out of 117 or more people there are at least 9 who do not think "she used to be a guy" is amongst the worst things.
*hand on shoulder*
>true love is a band aid
I want to say that you're wrong,
I believe that you do grow and mature and become wiser afterwards
I've taken enough wrong turns in life to know that all experiences teach you something
this one's on me
You were engaged? I'm really sorry..
That's what my ex keeps telling me, and he's at least sold me on the fact that I've grown enough to not deal with my problems exclusively with drugs. I guess I've grown a little, but it sure doesn't feel like it.
I'd eat you in a heartbeat.
Ok, but round two's on me
So um this guy seems legit.
Bill please speaking of dog fuckers why ate those the only women interested in me oh wait it cause I look like a dog I bet.
>Dogs don't have sex out of want, they do it out of instinct
No, there's absolutely nothing that supports that, total myth. Dogs get chemical joy release from it the same way a human does, not sure if it's specifically endorphins or something else, but they do, as do all mammals. So if your argument is "it is not voluntary, it is instinct" that's retarded, cause then every way you could interact with a dog is involuntary abuse, and it would basically be too primal to even conceptualize sexual abuse.
if your argument is "a dog wouldn't initiate sex with a woman, so it has to be abuse" then you're demonstrably wrong.
Maybe when I'm over it, I'm not there yet.
>is it better to have loved and lost...
Both have their advantages. If you've never loved you're still your own person. The hardest part about breaking up with someone you've been with for a long time is trying to figure out where their personality begins and yours ends.
>you really shouldn't post pics of your hands
Fuk u I do wat I want
Lager or Ale?
>there are straight men who spend their days lurking and stalking tripfags just to shit-post about them for hours every single day in a thread for transgender girls
I'm just trying to picture what a fully grown man would look like hunched over his computer shit-posting on mtfg would look like. It's kind of a scary thought, actually.
this "the only consent is verbally stated in a human language" meme has simply got to end
>there are straight men who spend their days lurking and stalking tripfags just to shit-post about them for hours every single day in a thread for transgender girls
They're called transbians, ANON
>Saying sorry for being Canadian
I-It's okay. Please don't feel sorry for it.
Well duh but it's still equally fucked to abuse a dog like that too they may not understand but they can still be affected to the point where they have ptsds I even put my dog in another room when I have sex so as not to traumatize him. Animals have feels too.
yes, with the operative word being "was"
i honestly don't remember how to love a person anymore
i know that sounds cheesy as fuck but like, we both knew each other, we didn't have secrets, i wasn't surprised by his decision to transition, but how did i fall so far in his heart from being the one he pledged his life to, to being just another girl on the way?
>tfw no platonic bed sharing with a friend
I wonder if my old guy friends will still let me when I come out to them as trans. We still shared beds when I came out as gay...
I miss that feel one of my straight friend held me all night cause he was having a good dream I had to hide my gt that morning was my coming out to them. Being drunk can be fun drunken cuddles are awesome sauce.
>ordered hormones 4 weeks ago
>still haven't arrived
>no hormones left
>body is betraying me again
Please send help ;_;
I know that feel mine ran out again my aunt didn't send much cause she is poor so I'm hoping that I will FAX my prescription works with in house otherwise I'm fucked.
No but she talks about that a lot. I just got through the rape that people claim didn't happen... and what she described was a lot like my grey-area-rapey-sex I had...
I used to do it all the time with my straight friends and anyone who doesn't know them doesn't believe we weren't fucking.
Oh my gosh I love it!!
Alldaychemist always took a month from purchase to my mailbox...
I used inhouse, they usually take 3 weeks so i'm a bit worried and i'm also out of money.
>tfw I've been talking to this qt boy on tinder for about an hour
>tfw he says he wants to transition
>tee he's muscular and has a deeper voice than I had when I started
>tfw I know he won't pass
Why do I have to be so unlucky
So true it shame my cover got blown I still can't believe the stuff I did with straight guys like shotgunning a blunt that turned into a kiss Lol cause I "slipped". So fun now days all I do is work and haven't felt any intimacy in like a year.
Literally hundreds of recorded incidents.
And whether it's to show dominance is hardly relevant is it? it's them actively deciding it with no act from the human upon them.
And it is scientific fact that all (or close to all) mammals enjoy sex, whether it's instinctive or not.
>tfw not going to get my hormones and will be without for another month at least.
Is this hell?
I was making a joke silly but I can see your really sad so I'm sorry if it's any consolation you are a beautiful woman and I'm sure you can find a qt to love again someday.
True.after me and my best friend screwed around we pretty stopped being close and only ever hooked up it was lame I lost my best friend to my baser instincts.
I'm leaving my home town in two months and looking for a better place to transition.
Please help me decide, I've never been good at this.
I'm 23 and my trade is cooking, so I could get a job anywhere.
>Your order has been received.
>It will ship in approximately 972 business days.
This is the only one I have on my phone that isn't lewd
it just kind of happens even when the other person isn't asking for it... if we're both awkwardly tense then it just gets even worse than usual...
o-ok lets not do that then..
Brace for it, it's going to be rough. If you're on spiro it's pretty rough, if you're on cypro you're going to want to kill yourself, I know I did.
Pain is temporary though anon :<
yea either Oregon (like Portland) or Washington (Seattle maybe), they're really chill about people just living their lives. And there's a couple ladies from here who live there (Kayla lives in Seattle, I don't remember who lives in Portland)
I feel like this is how I make people feel whenever I talk about transitioning
they're always like
"wtfff, but ur a good looking guy!"
>tfw no terrible jaw and receding chin
being an ugly guy seems to work wonders for passing as a decent looking girl, at least from the transition timelines ive seen
You never been there? You've not slept in about 4x as you should have, you look completely gone because you're somewhere between content and human-screensaver mode while the very few thoughts you manage to keep up get completely sidetracked and confused, until you start passing out no matter what you're doing. It's a good look too, you tend to keep your chin up and your lips pursed, like a small child huffing at having to go to bed.
M-Maybe they're just a bit slow and i'll get my hormones next week.
I was without hormones for a month once and it made me feel really bad.
>if you're on cypro you're going to want to kill yourself, I know I did.
I've been without cypro for two weeks or something now, feels bad.
c-could we touch butts in silence then? we wouldn't even have to hold hands either...
oh i get that look sometime after Oh-Bitch-Thirty at magic prereleases
it's not that it's a particularly long time to be awake, but it's a lot of emotional and mental energy expended over the course of 8 hours of magic
i need more money for more clothes
You mean like this?
what you need to do is fuck off back to translesgen, sir with the rest of the straight men like you.
>southern california is not just LA you know
actually im cackling at u tbh
>not asking if they're jewish
>you will never pass
>you will never have a great voice
>you will never be happy
It's not too late they said, you'll be fine they said.
Anyone might want to meet up with me in Seattle between October 30th and November 2nd? IDK if I will move there but that is around the time i expect to be visiting. Also I might be in phoenix, Scottsdale area, between 23th through the 25th of this month if anyone wants to meet up.
I'm laughing at how you think you remotely look feminine. ahaha this shit is gross as fuck. how does your girlfriend keep from vomiting when you take your clothes off lmao
>implying it' not 9:45 pm
>implying time zones are real
Just in case you're reading this umaru, could you come into the dub room? I'd like to talk.
His ss16 stuff is great (also he's like, one of the few who make menswear that doesn't look like shit)
Good to hear!
>getting over being sick
>had my first gender therapy appointment today
>helping a friend get info on going FtM
>listening to the Decemberists
if I still didn't have a painful cough I'd say 10/10 but I'm gonna go 7/10 cause coughing is like death
Suffering, not passing, messing up my sleep schedule, headache from crying.
Living the dream.
actually I am in a pretty wealthy area but still, its pretty damn conservative. So Cal blows for trans people so I am fucking done with all of it here.
I am a drug queenpin known as El Maricon. I bought a concorde plane, restored it and bought a few cool cars. I bought a fedora and plan to move my base of operations to the northwest where the locals will nickname me Schrödinger's Cat and I will teach some poor kid my trade of drug dealing and then some how fuck it all up and I will have to live in Montana with cancer, but I will come back and shoot everyone up and my lawyer will get his own show after I am dead.
like honestly i just dont understand, which is why im laughing
u come back after however long, spamming the same old pics u spammed at me over 2 years ago, expecting me to react... how exactly? like idgi honestly lolol
oh thank god someone else who follows fashion
yah i saw it on tumblr today and its pretty excellent. like especially i rly want this dress >>5054120
> i am pretty wealthy
You sure are, you spent five grand on a motocross bike then bitch about how you are too poor to move to seattle! But that bike is a part of you like you said so you can't sell it.
>started hrt late
>man hands and man feet
>only boobs from hrt
What do? ;_;
Here, you'll feel more comfortable here, sir. You can talk with other straight men such as yourself
here's tons of other straight men that share your crossdressing interests, you'll feel at home where you can talk about anime and how you have zero dysphoria
>stop being a hiki neet
>tfw cant get high with my favorite trips all together
Trip on Jocelyn
the only thing that has ever made physical or philosophical sense to me is the universe as a fractal infinite consciousness, therefore suicide is a reset button
>tfw u cant get high at all cuz u dont know where to get stuff
90% I will just fly there tbh. My parents are paying for the flight if I fly up there and they told me they don't want me getting another reckless driving for doing 50 over the speed limit again since they don't think I will be as lucky being the charge. If I do move up there though I will drive up there for sure, since I need to bring up a car for me to have up there anyways, and if you want to join in that then you are more than welcome. I can bring your shit too if you have somewhere to move into by the time that happens.
>Haven't smoked in 3 years
>Legalization in probably another year or two
>can't smoke weed
why live ;~;
I wish that really were how it was. If I could turn back time and do it all over again I would. Time doesn't go any direction but forwards though...
Are you telling me that hons don't enjoy little things? Or have friends? Or have fun? Ever?
jocelyn went to meet with kiwi and he surprised her at the door, ripped her clothes off and sodomized her with a pair of scissors. she said she didnt want to speak about the incident any further on mtfg
>Are you telling me that hons don't enjoy little things? Or have friends? Or have fun? Ever?
I don't, haven't had a real friend in years and will never be comfortable enough with myself to have a real life.
>not trying the other legal high
dxm is legal yo. Although I have been working towards being 100% sober. It is going pretty good. My only weakness is that I drink zero calorie Arizona green tea. Fucking caffeine is the only drug I pretty much take now a days.
I plan on playing league of cucks in a few but I am just trying to relax a bit before. I might put on some rock or edm before i start. Oh, I have a giant bottle of green tea in front of me :3c
wow what a day
first the power goes out in the whole store for an hour and a half while there's thunder and lightning and pouring rain outside, i end up having to write off a bunch of food that went bad from staying out refrigerated too long, it was a sad sight to see
then later i end up trying to talk a drunk guy out of suicide for like 30 minutes, i'm a cashier i shouldn't have to do that tbh
ugh today felt so long, how was your day /mtfg/?
Granville Island Raspberry Ale
About to play mushihimesama
Don't do that then, it gets too tempting
Are you saying you'll never have a friend though?
DXM is really really gross. I don't think I've ever had a worse drug experience. Puking for 8 hours while having an out of body experience
yeah i love the overextended arms. so good tbh. and that skirt hnngghh
wheres my money tho i need money
time is just another dimension of the energy-matter matrix
"forwards in time" is likely only a concept created by a dimension-limited set of self-coherent conscious phenomena
if i kill myself the consciousness of others will persist, and if they kill themselves my own consciousness will persist... consciousness itself is a property of the universe, and its relation/relevance/coherence to ourselves as individuals is dependent on its relative complexity compared to ourselves
>Are you saying you'll never have a friend though?
Not as long as i'm a hon so yes.
everyone i've asked have told me I don't have a chance of passing.
Literally my first thought whenever I check this stuff, that and "what if I actually drop from this size fast enough for it not to matter maybe I could just wait out and use my old crap for a few more months"
If I didn't control myself I could literally put together a clothing wishlist big enough to buy a new Tesla. v.v
Reminds me of the last time I was sick I decided why since I am already taking this shit why not trip on it. I ended up throwing up and staring at a mirror for a half hour wondering who the hell was this chubby asian lady with an enlarge clit was doing in my room until I realized I was looking at myself then laughing uncontrollably until I closed my eyes and thought I was in kill la kill for a few hours. Then after opening my eyes I realized i couldn't control my eyes and i was uncontrollably cross eyed for about two hours.
Yeah that was a dumb idea, but the kill la kill was pretty good
You have one of two choices anon I mean Jocelyn, c9 wins worlds or c9 loses the rest of their games and as a result sneaky quits c9, transitions and becomes your transbian gf.
That doesn't preclude having friends...
Idk, I've always subscribed to the belief that consciousness was an illusion created by an incredibly complicated computer such as the human brain. In the absence of brain function, consciousness will cease to exist. Or maybe it will exist again at some point in the future when the same identical arrangement of atoms is created again at some other point in the universe. It's still not a reset button, it just means it will reappear at some later point at a random location in the universe.
>Or maybe it will exist again at some point in the future when the same identical arrangement of atoms is created again at some other point in the universe. It's still not a reset button, it just means it will reappear at some later point at a random location in the universe.
Thats what I always thought too. Its not terribly comforting though...
>tfw you'll never get fucked like rawr does all the time because they will always see you as a boy
i feel like that if i plan it out i can probably afford a piece or two from the collection by the time it hit stores. so. i really do have to plan out my spring/summer wardrobe ahead of time lol
*marks down to check up on phlemuns in february
To each their own, you can keep your dissociative drugs, the high and I don't get along. I find that weird closed eye dreamy state of DXM nauseating, and ketamine is just terrifying.
Those are both things you can fix though. Voice is training, leaving your apartment can be fixed by leaving your apartment, even if it's scary.
that pics reminds me of this tbh
I am not into dissociative drugs and I will never take K because of how addictive it could be. I am not that into drugs. I will admit I have taken them in the past though.
I am rounding six months with no end in sight. At the rate i am going the drought will end in California before my sexual drought ends.
I'm going to bed. Good night.
>I've always subscribed to the belief that consciousness was an illusion created by an incredibly complicated computer such as the human brain. In the absence of brain function, consciousness will cease to exist.
to me this is a pair of conflicting statements - if the system itself creates consciousness, the parts of that system individually must contain or manifest individual fractions of the experience we know as human self-aware consciousness
as you selectively remove aspects of the system, and thus aspects of the experience, you see a different form of consciousness than your own, but still one that is nonetheless conscious, and when you break the feedback loop of environment->experience->memory->experience you are still left with parts that add up to a conscious system
if we're just bits in a universal computer, there is something outside the computer computing this reality... if there is not, then there must be some innate property that allows the "mere" feedback loop of matter systems to result in the experience of consciousness, a sum greater than its material whole
when people are on the butt end of jokes they deserve something nice in return imho
i never knew what kind of person eggy was but given he was from /r9k/ i'm sure he didn't want that much attention
>Implying hormones don't work fine at 22
Are you the moron who claims they don't affect soft tissue past 21? Is that what it is? An elaborate ruse to justify repressing when you know for a fact that transition is a thing that happens and that people do?
I started at 19 almost 20 and i don't pass. Don't worry thought because people are nice.
i'm almost 28 and barely 5 weeks into estrogen, wish me luck
It's sort of conflicting and it sort of isn't. If the brain is thought of quite literally as a computer, then even if the individual components function as components which work together to actually run what's perceived as consciousness. A stick of RAM can't run software on its own, in the same way that a brain lobe separated from the others is incapable of conscious thought. Consciousness is just a result of these components working together to run the software that is you.
Of course, in regards to the idea of a universal computer, if we can build a computer that can simulate a universe (in theory we could), then it's safe to say we're all just bits inside a universal simulation. If we can simulate the universe, who's to say we aren't a simulation.
Sorry if I'm rambling and not reading your posts properly, I'm really sleepy ;~;
>So you're dressing andro
>using a soft voice
I sound gay, my voice is really bad.
>going about your school or work
>still always gendered male
100% of the time, the only time i've been gendered female is when people try to be nice.
The hugboxing is awful though.
I started at 19 too. I don't think there's a lot of difference between starting at 19 and 22, the worst of the damage has been done by that point...
Sometimes when I need inspiration and motivation I turn to film. Usually it works.
i hope i remember tomorrow's the day i start doubling up spiro, i should get a pill case to take them to work with me on the early shifts
anyway, whatcha listening to /mtfg/?
right, but we can understand consciousness as a systematic exchange of information, i.e. an exchange of energy - a stick of ram just sitting around contains active energy and, while that energy isn't contributing to a PC system, it still exists to be used at some point (or released into the environment), and still has its own internal reactions however small and inconsequential to the PC system in question and to the physical integrity of the RAM module
without the RAM stick's energetic components, its structure and place in the PC would be worthless, and any set of matter can theoretically be configured to replace the RAM
in this way, where a PC is analogous to a functioning brain if you get what i'm saying, religion got it right in a certain fundamental way, where "god" is everywhere and everything, and all-loving without discrimination... because god is the energy of the universe itself and love is the fluid exchange of its energy
thanks, i definitely need the luck holy shit just kill me fam
All I ever wanted to be was cute guys. How do I deal with the fact that no one will ever just wanna snuggle me non-lewdly because I look cute.
It's hard to keep trying when there's no hope of passing ever.
>you're not regularly meeting strangers who would have to gender you
No one uses stuff like sir here so I don't know, i'm certain I dont pass though.
It doesn't sound like you ever started trying. You're doing the kayla style transition where you take hormones while hiding inside and pretend everything else will magically work out.
Im sorry my controllers are sacred fam ;~;
My sink is over there.
What's your all the time smile like? Mine shows off my massive front teeth D:
I see more what you mean now, oddly enough it makes more sense when you explain it in religious terms. Is this hypothetical or are you a religious person?
How do I start trying when I look so manly though?
It's really hard and no matter what I do I still look bad.
I'm going to meet someone who's going to try to help me but it's not like she can do anything about my awful face and height/shoulders/hips
i am not religious at all in terms of orthodoxy, i arrived at this pretty much entirely through philosophy, copious amounts of weed, and a handful of LSD/shrooms experiences
You just stop shitting on yourself. You are literally the worst person in the world to judge your own appearance and you're the only one who ever sees you.
You have to accept that you don't know what you look like, do your best, and find out how other people think you look.
Well, by being religious I don't mean in terms of organized religion or orthodoxy (practically nobody on mtfg probably goes to church), but I more mean in terms of having some sense of belief in a higher power, or sense of spirituality.
as far as i'm concerned, consciousness is simply a property of matter, it's more a lower power than a higher one i guess :^)
there is a "spirit" in the sense that experience itself continues beyond the death of a local physical being, but as far as i can deduce or infer it does not necessarily retain anything from the life it left
Then the two have something to discuss. Bot parties should get exactly what's going on before you do anything. If it gets to a point where you feel uncomfortable leave. gtg so later peps
there's pretty much no repercussions from asking people online, just ask them straight out
i see we're at the "shitposting saying she doesn't pass" part of the melly cycle
how long til we're back to the "help, i can't pass as a boy and if i don't i don't get to mooch money off relatives" bit?
>realise it's now almost 1am
well the dream of playing vidya tonight is dead again, for the nth night in a row
i would take a break from PC-related stuff but it's another month until my appointment to see someone about my anxiety, and as long as my anxiety is killing me internally there's literally nothing for me to do but shitpost and play vidya, and i can't play vidya with this anxiety....
A lower power is still a higher power :^) The laws of physics are pretty low on the chain of command, and they're one of the highest powers in the universe.
Thank you for giving me something to think about, my tired brain needed something to chew on.
I'm at a crossroads in life mtfg. Do I push a head and try to land on my feet and become stable or do I become a hardcore druggy and eventually die of an overdose? Both options are fine. Honest opinions please.
i mean, peopl might bully you if you post a pic with your lifestory or something, but typically posting a pic prompts people to either gender you, or, if it isn't apparent, to ask your gender
>talking about deets
won't that kill the mood?
I think maybe hand control or body gesture/posture would work.
like you can guide their hand to where you want to be touched, or not
or you could just move your hips/back/legs to give them a clue
friggin adri, weren't you literally dry humping faye? teach us the ways
Become stable. If you survive the druggie lifestyle, you're going to deeply regret having taken that path. If you die, you die. There's not a lot of good down that road.
so which is better? i've been using gillette mach 3 but i just bought the dorco pace 6, i'm wondering if i should just wait to use up all the cartridges of gillette before i switch over to the dorco or is it that much better than the gillette that i should just start using it right away?
this is how he looks like
you really have a shitty taste in men