mtfg male to female general: there's definitely nothing

>tfw no one to discuss music with

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>>5040907
L E W D
edition

Threadly reminder transbians are straight male crossdressers ruining the trans community and should be shunned.

>>5040910
what you listen to?

>>5040913
I feel like every edition is lewd edition

SOME GO ON A TRIP WITH ME
[email protected]

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>>5040921

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So far I've found 102 books of Izaya x Shizuo.

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Some days, I just think that I could be happy being a feminine boy
Yeah
That'd work
I'm not even sure what I'm doing anymore
My boobs are coming in and now I'm so unsure of everything
I might live life happier if I just don't transition
I'm not sure what to do
what do, mtfg
(in unrelated news, I really want this and I'm mad that I can't have it or probably anything like it)

>>5040921
>tfw u want to be straight but there's no qt boys anywhere

someone go on a trip with me

>>5040934
What kind of boys do you like?

>>5040934
iktf

>>5040935
I'll go on a trip with you if I can ride your gt, Kayla <3

>>5040934
>tfw I finally found a qt boy
>tfw he's my friend
>tfw I don't know if he's into me
>tfw I'm not out so it doesn't even matter if he is, he wouldn't be interested anyway
someone shoot me

>>5040926
Does this include airfare?

>>5040921
Wanna make out?
I just want to practice, for guys.

>>5040889
maybe you could show me a thing or two?
<no homo>

like we'd just be practicing for guys
hipanon

>>5040931
Well, if you stop hrt, you'll start masculising again

>>5040936
Ones that are girls

>>5040942
There's a guy at uni who's ok lookin but everyone in that class thinks I'm a cis guy ;~;

>>5040907
>>5040913
see wongor, they've confirmed it!

>>5040935
I would, but straya :/

>>5040945
No, and you're being extremely predatory and creepy right now, sir. Stop or I'm calling the police, you're scaring my children and my dog. I hope you're happy.

>>5040952
But I was never very masculine, that's the thing
I've always had slim-er shoulders and wide-ish hips, and I'm not very tall. That, and I look very "cute" in the face- before I started transitioning, I was your typical "pretty boy" type, if you know what I mean. Not masculine, but still good looking.

>>5040959
How old are you?

>>5040966
I'm 18 now. I started when I was 17.

What are decent places to go eat in Times Square that don't cost 10 million doll hairs?

>>5040958
N-no, I'm sorry. I just want to know how to kiss boys. H-honest

>>5040969
Worth noting that I started about halfway into being 17 and was on a low dose for a while that prevented further masculinization but did not have any physical changes.

>tfw want to get ripped but everything hurts.
>tfw can't Korra today

I've been thinking of a middle name, how does Elisa Claire sound? Or Elisa Clara?

>>5040971
Practice kissing on your hand or with your dog like a normal person.

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>>5040945
right before my post >>5040950, lol

>>5040976
Elisa Claire sounds great. Elisa Clara has two ending a sounds so it's kinda weird

>>5040970
I heard kiwi has some good dick back at his place and it's free

>>5040976
Just do what I'm doing and target your legs in two-day sessions doing cycling with medium to heavy resistance, with a one day break in-between.
It's making my butt and thighs bigger AND I'm losing weight and getting abs, it's a win-win.
As a bonus, it's burning off all my guyfat, and when I gain some weight back it'll go to the right places.

>>5040982
Oh hi there hipanon ^^
How's the evening treating you?

>>5040981
O-ok. Do i practice anal with dog too?

>>5040987
>his place

>>5040992
if you wanna be ufluflu sure

>>5040973
Well you're still kinda young, people can still change around your age. Though you've probably dodged the worst of puberty

>>5040994
kiwi is a guy lol im not even trying to be mean with that

>>5040997
I'm pretty sure ufuflu just requires being bi and pining for boys with a girl.

>>5040992
feeling better today, thanks
sent Skype, dunno if it's working

>>5040981
kissing your hand doesn't seem like good practice, kek

>>5041000
shes on spiro, wants to transition and will start estrogen at the end of the month

>>5040973
What do you mean with physical changes?
Noticed no change in your skin, or anything at all?

Your bones won't change if you start at 17, you're practically done growing at that age, and E is only gonna put the growing to a halt quicker.

>>5040999
I suppose so. I'm just not sure.
I'm extremely torn because I want to be strong, I want to be able to be slim and cut, but also be feminine. On days like today I feel like I'm making a mistake and that I'll never look good, but on other days I feel like it's my only option. I'm just so torn up and worried that I'm maybe throwing my chances at living a good life out the door in the hopes that something will work... that just might not. That I might not even need to do to feel happy.
ugh

>>5041010
I mean like growing boobs
I'm on a higher dose now and I'm growing boobs
Also, you're wrong. Bones grow until 21 and I've /definitely/ noticed my hips widening, athough not a ton. I've been taking measurements, and they're definitely getting bigger, slowly but surely.

>>5041009
a girl wouldn't use their dick tho

>>5041008
I didn't get a contact request ._.
Maybe email me your skype

>>5041000
Kiwi will be qt as fuck by next year.

>>5040997
kek

>>5041021
Kiwi is already cute c:

leffen travels to usa for a tournament and gets deported

tsa collusion against the swedish menace tbh

>>5040928
patrician taste tbh

>>5040931
that looks really strange, what it it??? o.o;;

>>5041012
a good life??? it depends on what u want tbh

if u take hrt to be a fem boy then get that straight, and alter hrt dose to reflect that

if u want to have kids with a girl then bank sperm or stop hrt now

if u want to live as a female then keep taking hrt

>>5041014
>bones grow until 21
Welp, I guess I got the answer as to why I got hips

>>5041024
I actually have no idea what kiwi looks like o,o

>>5041014
>Bones grow until 21
Yeah, the finalization happens there, like all the shoulder bones settle at that age

>I've /definitely/ noticed my hips widening
I definitely doubt it.
The pelvis is usually done by age 16, so starting hormones at 17.5 shouldn't have any effect on it.
Fat or whatever going there isn't actually "hip widening".

Basically.
Starting at 14 or younger = having feminizing effects
Starting after 15/16 = preventing the heavier masculinization, may benefit from very slight bone feminization, mostly it's only adding benefits to feminizing soft tissue
Starting before 18-21 = preventing the last spurt of masculinization, last chance to have any increased benefits of soft tissue feminization.
Starting after 21 = May prevent some various additional masculinization, and probably avoids heavier balding. Most soft tissue benefits are gone.

>>5041012
Girls can be strong too ya know

>>5041012
daily reminder that if you didn't pass before hrt, you'll not likely pass with it

>>5041033
Yeah but if I become strong and am trans I'll just look like a man

>>5041034
I did pass before HRT

>>5040992
Just practice everything with the dog tbh.

>>5041028
cute!

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>>5041028

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>>5041034
>tfw could have passed if I didn't have gross facial hair

>>5041035
Well yeh if you go full bodybuilder you'll look masculine, but you can go for the fit look

>>5041040
thats pre mones?

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>>5041028

>>5041040
Kayla?

>>5040928
Your boss had fairly good taste.

>>5041010
>practically done growing
It depends on a lot of factors tbh and growth can definitely keep up until 20s, especially if you're going through male puberty.

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>>5041047

>>5041046
Actually...kudos to Jocelyn. He's cute!

>>5041031
>most soft tissue benefits are gone
This age table is so wrong as to be laughable. I've seen enough trans women to know it's entirely bullshit, but this, especially, is beyond ridiculous.

>>5041045
more like when he was a teenager

>>5041053
>tfw will never ride Kayla's gt on her dirt bike
W-why even live

>>5041046
Shit

>>5041031
>ast chance to have any increased benefits of soft tissue feminization.
But that's wrong, anon. People who start transitioning at at any age have softer skin and have their fat move around their body (That is, given that they lose the weight and then gain it back)

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>>5041059
actually it was like a week ago

pls stop posting pictures

>>5041040
>>5041038
Well I'll be damned. kiwi is definitely cute now and will only get cuter. Well done jocelyn

>>5041065
Why? They're cute

>>5041055
he said he'd end hrt before becoming a hon

>>5041062
he posted that pic to id himself when he came here during cheska fiasco

don't get the wrong idea, kiwi is a cool cat, but hardly trutrans

>tfw not sure if I should post a picture to ask people how my face looks
>tfw when I posted it a couple months ago people said it wasn't too great but I think it's gotten better since then
hm

>>5041061
lol

>>5041069
He's cute. And cis. Why is he here?

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>>5041075
i'm on hrt and transitioning, that's why i'm here

>>5041076
You are? Hmm

>>5041078
yeah so like, stop with the he an hims
the other anon is just being a dickhead

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>>5041046

>>5041031
technically bones continue to change and adapt in the long term throughout life but there aren't any studies for longterm effects and it takes like 10 years for the skeleton to replace all its cells once or something

but in normal ppl bones technically continue changing until old age so u just have to wait long enough lol
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jor.21469/pdf

other things are much quicker, like lungs take about 6 weeks to replace cells, and skin takes about 4 weeks

>>5041042
huh I thought u got all of ur facial hair lasered early in transition

>>5041075
chaser on hrt

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Fukkit

>>5041072
this is me
>>5041012
>>5040973
http://imgur.com/a/c3XjV
am I gonna make it

>>5041075
he's about to take jocey's butt virginity with his 8 I N C H C O C K

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>>5041040
This pic kinda looks like me pre-mones tbh
>pic related
>>5041065
You're gonna turn out so qt though >///<
>>5041025
Up to 106 now with Prince of Tennis in 2nd place, followed by Loveless.

>>5041083
umaru can you please get a trip because I was getting confused yesterday and didn't know if you were really being nice to me or if you were being mean to me or if it was you or what and I am confused enough as it is trying to figure that stuff out even without impersonatstors

>>5041088
I salute you, that's a very candid, honest photo

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>>5041081
<3

>>5041088
thank you elf! you gave me hope <3

>>5041093
that gif is me tbh fam
>>5041087
subtle

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>>5041086
>posted the wrong pic
feh
No makeup, obviously

>>5041090
>umaru
>being mean
Tripcodes aren't necessary to know that's not umaru.

>>5041086
>soft features
>pretty eyes
You're going to make it I think

>>5041080
I apologize.

>>5041090
no...
anal prolapse fat fuck

>>5041087
wait forreal? Jocelyn scored that?

>>5041095
please have a realistic idea of the life of a trans person b/c it's very hard for majority of us

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>tfw boy I've liked for a while wants to have me over to watch anime and cuddle soon, maybe go out to dinner after

also

>tfw everyone at my new job thinks I'm 19-20 years old

Today has been lovely for me. How are all you ladies doing tonight?

>>5041091
Well, it's not who I am anymore, so I tend not to care ^^;
>>5041093
Np Kiwi! Anything to help ^-^

>>5041088
oh gosh, u looked really girly before hrt too tho a few lil clocky flaws that are gone now!!! o.o;;

>>5041090
idk who it is or what has set them off, but it is someone who knows me, knows other trips, knows my relationships with other ppl here, and comes to the thread a lot and posts all day apparently ....

actually I think they post more than I do, and post when I'm here and not even here, dunno when they sleep ...

even if I got a trip it isn't going to stop them trying to cause trouble

>>5041097
basically yeh, that's it elanna, also I don't listen to nirvanna or w/e or say weird things like that >___>;;

Why are so many tumblr mtfs so horribly bitter about cute guys wearing shit like thighs highs? So many seem to think that if someone has a penis they can only wear "women's clothes" if they identify as a woman which seems to go against their idea of gender roles being abolished. It's so ass backwards and reeks of jealousy.

>>5041102
I don't understand what you're saying here

>>5041108
so current photo, same lighting?

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>talking to crush about standards of beauty and how i don't like them
>compliment him and he starts gettin blushy again

he's sooo o oo o oo ooOOO oOOoOo o cute
mtfg always date nerdy boys who don't know how cute they are, a tip from me to u

Second box of magic cards was less profitable but had more rares worth at least a dollar, so I can bulk sell them to the store
And I built an entire new deck from the other cards

>>5041112
most trans people are discriminated against and lose family/friends/job/career when they come out

>>5041115
That was my plan but best friend apparently likes a girl at his school and I promised to be nice

>>5041063
>>5041056
You don't have fufdll chafdnges.
For examdfple, you'll generfdlly not reach tanfner stagdfe 5, for that most of the timfde you have to start beffdore your 20's.

You won't see as much fat redifdstribution either.

(4chans spam filter is retarded)

I miss producing/DJing tbh

>>5041083
Bone changes just means tiny tiny changes, like your bones got 1mm wider because of gravity, over the span of 20 years.

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>>5041122
what's going on with this post

anon, are you okay?

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>>5041097
t-this is true because she is sweetheart but umaru doesn't like me very much

>>5041109
okie.
yesterday I told the trollmaru anon all about my day because they asked and they said I was being boring.

>>5041111
Because it's retarded to wear stripped thigh highs?

Why do people in general think it's retarded to wear ear lobe stretcher?

>3 1/2 hours to Battlefront beta
Anyone else /hypedbutwouldn'tbesurprisedifitsucks/ here?

>>5041126
Are you ok?

>(4chans spam filter is retarded)
>(4chans spam filter is retarded)
>(4chans spam filter is retarded)
This wasn't enough for you to understand what's going on?
Get a brain.

>>5040907
So I am on Hrt and my nipples have started feeling warm and slightly uncomfortable to touch. is this the beginning of the legendary nipple soreness everyone talks about or is this something else?

>>5041113
I don't have one on my comp that meets those standards, and I'm looking pretty trashy atm, but I've posted pics before and go on TV from time to time.
>>5041109
Yeah, that was about a month before starting hormones. I swept back my bangs and didn't style my hair, because I wanted pretty much a mugshot photo to look back on and compare to.

Does this appeal to any of you sissy faggots? I want to own you. This is a candid admission:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pJNMGtdGn0

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>>5041132
That means your breast buds are developing. Congrats.

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>>5041131
no need to be rude, i was just being silly

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>>5041124
I wish my bones would just heal properly
>mfw limp is always on and noticeable, so it looks dumb when I have to switch

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>>5041118
How is that relevant to me posting my face

>>5041133
TC*, not TV >.>

>gain courage to post face
>one reply
is there a better thread for asking?
I feel like the passing thread wouldn't be the place.

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I'M SO EXCITED FOR TOMORROWWWWWWWWWWWWWW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>5041143
L E W D

>>5041133
I think that you make a really cute femboy also

>>5041142
Are you >>5041095?

Looks fine. Can't really see any actual masculine features. Though, I can't judge brow from this angle.

>>5041144
Risk is serious business

>>5041095
The reason I didn't respond as because I thought it was a fake pic of you pretending to be someone else
You look beautiful

>>5041124
nah it's a little more but not much tbh, u might get an inch pelvic width over 50ish years but it will be so slow that u will never notice it

so technically bones continue to change, but the speed of change doesn't agree that inches of change in the span of less than 5 years is remotely likely

>>5041127
I mean it's probably mtf or a trip so maybe they wanna be friends with u??? o.o;;

>>5041133
mhm!! <3

>>5041143
omigosh I am so excited too jocelyn!!! ^^;;

I'm also a lil jello u all get to hang out up there with edie and ufufu and the other cool east coast ppls ;~~;

>>5041142
Post on /soc/

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>>5041148
this though tbh she looks better as a girl hands down. Leave the male attractiveness to her brother.

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>>5041152
>I mean it's probably mtf or a trip so maybe they wanna be friends with u??? o.o;;
no I mean, they know I am desperate for your friendship because I am pathetic so they were building me up to knock me down?

>>5041140
you're the noobie,
don't risk your nice genetics on something like this unless it's absolutely necessary

hrt is not to be taken lightly either, are you completely aware of all the side effects?

go see a gender therapist, not 4ch

>>5041153
this is a troll giving you bad advice

>>5041152
I'm just hanging out with kiwi
we're gonna share music :^)
Dollface is strangely close to where I live though (like small world strange), but we both suck at transportation and I think I creep her out low key sometimes so we don't hang. I'm not really great friends with Ufufu so chilling would be awk, we just kinda talk on here sometimes but it's usually chill.

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>>5041148
I like to think I was back in the day lol
>>5041154
Why do you have to keep bringing up my brother ;-;
>>5041113
Here is one from about half a year back when I tried to be a Targaryen.

>>5041154
Little red head femboys are my preferance
I love baby face boys ^.^
I actually think her boymode was more attractive than her brothers. Probably not in any objective sexual way but it was so cute. I don't go for that stereotypical sexual look I like cute more than anything.

>>5041158
FUCK YOU OK.

>>5041158
Can you make a timeline?

>>5041158
I'm insanely jealous of your genetics. ;_;

>>5041162
Being envious is just pathetic.

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>>5041151
aww, thanks!
That really does mean a lot to me.

>>5041153
Whenever I go to /soc/ I just get hit on and I assume that they're lying to me because they want to fuck me

>>5041156
I've seen a gender therapist
There was a time that I was completely certain
I'm not sure if that's still the case but it also might just be my chronic uncertainty

>>5041149
Here's a less kind angle of my face
(sorry I look like a fuccboi in all of these photos, I was taking them to try and get a new tinder profile photo)

This is kinda why I'm unsure of transitioning, though. I look good and I don't want to ruin my life, but I'm not sure if not transitioning would ruin my life even more
Ugh, all this uncertainty. I wish it was easy to just... get an answer. But if I wait, I'm fucked if it turns out that transitioning was the right choice. I don't want to end up looking old and masculine, but honestly given my genetics and family history I'm not sure if that'll ever happen.

>>5041157
>sharing music
is that what they called getting piped by an 8 inch gt now?

>>5041134

On a scale of 1 to 10, how creepy is this? None of it was written but I am extremely intoxicated. Keeping a sissy at home to feminize and control would bring me great pleasure.

>>5041158
just compared two and this just has better lighting and your skin cleared up

pretty

>>5041158
Were you doing your hair and eyebrows as a male also?
Youre so cute im not sure if I like your boymode or girlmode more.

You kind of look line reviewbrah but he's a total cutey also
^.^

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>>5041155
it's okies, u should get on dubstep sometime tbh

>>5041157
ohhh right gocha!! ^^

>>5041158
w-wow ur pretty, wanna go out?? and snuggle and stuff??? ^^;;

<3

>>5041169
idc i know I'm pathetic

>>5041170
Less kind is still fairly pretty.

Also if you're fairly confident you're trans, not transitioning would probably be the bad choice even if it can hurt sometimes.

>>5041157
>tfw creep everyone out
people here say I don't creep them out and that I'm nice and whatever else and then if I see them on facebook I send a friend request and its ignored...
to paraphrase mr plinket... you didnt notice that I'm creepy, but your brain did

either they think I'm creepy because facebook recommended them and I was all
>i know these person/s
or they know I don't pass and can't pass and they don't want someone like that as a friend because it will ruin their stealth

>>5041179
oki... I dont know what that is tho

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>>5041158
>Why do you have to keep bringing up my brother
sorry i won't do it again ( ._.) i can't help that your brother is just so ridiculously attractive to me.

>>5041160
meh I don't go for femboys too often.

>>5041158
You look pretty different with your hair like that

>>5041170
if you have this much doubt, then transitioning is not right for you

most mtf can't see living any other way, it's not a choice

>>5041175
>Please Respond you stupid faggots
>I'm so lonely
>I'm desperate let me dominate you
>No response? :(

>>5041183
come to new york and eat pizza with us

Well my life is falling apart just as soon as it was starting to get better. Whats the quickest, easiest way to kill myself without a gun?

>>5041184
>i can't help that your brother is just so ridiculously attractive to me.
don't listen to her she just wants her brother all for herself

>>5041186
you are a moron

>>5041188

Thanks for the feedback. You're correct, I am lonely but mainly I'm floating around on heroin.

>>5041170
Need a profile photo to judge brow.

From the front you look good.
Only thing is that you have a slightly wider chin, but I think it's well within female ranges, and maybe it's just the angle that makes it look wider than it is.

>This is kinda why I'm unsure of transitioning, though. I look good and I don't want to ruin my life
So you don't mind being male?

>But if I wait, I'm fucked if it turns out that transitioning was the right choice.
Why wouldn't it be the right choice?


Do you have like a big body or something? Or what else is it you're worried will fail your transition, or are you even afraid you'd fail transition?

>>5041189
I would absolutely love to, I want to go to katz deli in new york and also somewhere where they serve soup dumplings and have one of those disgusting hot dogs and bad pizza

you know home alone 2... yeah... I wish I could have a new york christmas adventure too.

I hate being poor :/

>>5041197
I often forget you're in 'straya, sorry m8.
channel your energy and come with us in spirit.
we'll be posting pics lol

>>5040985
I see. I mean, it's just that I like Claire, but I'm Mexican so...
>>5040991
I basically bike everywhere in Japan, so that's covered, I think. I've been trying to be able to do a split, though, and that's when it starts hurting the day after haha.

>>5041201
okie I am sending my love down that well

>>5041192
They have a point. Once I knew what transition was, I didn't agonise over it, I knew I wanted it. I didn't care if I ruined my life in the process.

It's a big decision but if you're that indecisive it's a bad idea.

>>5041158
Please be single.

>>5041162
Pls no x.x
>>5041164
Maybe at some point. I have a bad habit of rarely ever taking pics, so it may be a bit hard to string together.
>>5041168
Not gonna lie, it's like 70% awesome, but I kinda have to make myself look really frumpy if anxiety gets bad that day. It went from everyone ignoring me when I was a faggy boy to "Omg let's all stare at and say weird stuff to her". It can get to be more than a bit much a lot of the time...
>>5041178
I kept my hair girly, but I still don't do anything to my eyebrows. They just grow to be naturally slim and super-villainy.
>>5041179
O-only if you promise to play mmo's and larp with me >///<
>>5041184
I didn't really mean it in a bad way .-. It's just that he's new at this and I'm still getting used to the whole 'everyone lusting after my brother' thing.
>>5041185
I think it would be cool to have blonde hair again, but it decimates my hair ^^;

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>>5041157
>Dollface is strangely close to where I live though (like small world strange), but we both suck at transportation and I think I creep her out low key sometimes so we don't hang

why do you think you creep me out lol

>>5041193

I own:

feminise.me
feminization.help
mtf.community
mtf.support
mtf.surgery
sissify.me
trans.help
trans.photography
transgenderize.me
transgirl.dating
transitioning.photography
transsexualize.me

Which should I develop first? Most domains will be resold.

>>5041205
uwot? what well?

>>5041212
Because social anxiety, lol. I think everyone hates me. Probably cause lots of people actually do lol.

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>>5041191
sounds plausible

>>5041210
if it's any consolation, i'd totally do a threesome with you and your brother.

>>5041206
>tfw knew I was trans at 12
>tfw agonized over it for 17 years
>tfw transtrender hon

>>5041214
old simpsons reference :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfdXbTRVRzc

bart fakes a boy getting trapped in a well and then gets his comeuppance when he falls in and nobody cares

>>5041216
>tfw I live in Pittsburgh
Nobody knows my feel...

>>5041219
I'm still really confused lol

Just got back from a trift sale, like from people moving back to their country that lived in the school dormitories. Bought a bunch of girl stuff and only 3 of them fit.

How many black skirts is too many? I have like 4.
Also what do you match with black skirts?

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>>5041210
Yeh, if dye didn't damage your hair so much I'd have a different colour every week. My sister was dyeing hers once a month for a while and her hair started falling apart

>>5041217
why do people want elf and her brother to do lewd stuff

>>5041210
okies I'll be the weird pet/dps/utility/healing class and u can be the tank dps hybrid elf!!!! o.o;;

>>5041206
doubts and being worried about making the wrong decision over something that can have massive negative repercussions, especially if you are young with an unsupportive family, is pretty normal

thinking about that stuff doesnt make you not trans or mean you shouldnt transition

>>5041194
>So you don't mind being male?
I do mind it. I just think that I'm able to tolerate it currently because I look naturally effeminate. I would /much/ rather be female, but I'm at the point that I'm set up for a very successful future and I'm afraid about ruining that. Plus, my looks currently make my life a lot easier and I'm aware of that.

>>5041194
My shoulders aren't that great
Neither are my hips
I'll get a photo in like 3 hours when the showers are empty

>>5041186
That's the thing, I can't tell if the doubt is whether or not to transition, or if it's just me being a pussy.

>>5041183
here, I dunno if many ppl plan on using it tho, but it would be nice to hear some of ur driving tunes again


https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/mtfg
https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/mtfg
https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/mtfg

>>5041221
;___;
celebrities did a charity song to raise money for awareness... of "timmy"
and ended up raising nothing because that kind of thing is self masturbatory... it was commenting on the fact that nobody was actually doing anything and instead commercialising this event, to the point there was a carnival erected around the well.

this was back when the simpsons was doing social commentary and satire and not just
>homer and bart meet justin timberlake and wacky hijinks ensue

...


I'll let myself out.

>>5041232
I'm just wondering what the motive was to say it lol
>I'll let myself out
no it's not your fault lol like I'm actually retarded

>>5041220
Pa trans in da house!

>>5041236
b-because its just a reference to that song... in the episode... ,_,

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>>5041228
>but I'm at the point that I'm set up for a very successful future and I'm afraid about ruining that.
How is it successful?

Would you say a hon that has a billion dollars is successful?
Pretty pointless with the money and whatever if you're a hon. It's not being successful. A completely passable trans girl that works minimum wage is pretty much more successful (though, not like she can do much in her life...).

Being successful is being happy.

>My shoulders aren't that great
How wide? From side to side? Measuring D2.

>Neither are my hips
How wide? From side to side, at your widest part?

>>5041239
>Would you say a hon that has a billion dollars is successful?
Yes.

They say money can't buy happiness....but those niggas weren't rich haha.

>>5041239
I can tell you in a bit when my roomies are out

>>5041210
How does it feel to be like, uh, you.
>>5041213
sissify.me could be funny

>>5041239
A hon with a billion dollars wouldn't need to be a hon for long

>>5041216

who hates you???

>>5041239
>A completely passable trans girl
Lol you realize the odds of someone starting after 18 ending up completely passable is very low right?

>>5041236
Whelp, you're as ditsy as a cis girl. At least you have that going for you.

>>5041244

I was thinking of developing sissify.me into sort of dating/personals site in which sissies post profiles requesting assistance feminizing themselves (extending all the way to requesting a male to live with), profiles of would-be male sponsors and a section for chatting, before and after pictures and miscellany

>>5041247
on this board? anon
in real life? dickhead old friends, people who don't support my trannyness, and people who probably don't actually hate me but I think they do for no real reason.

>>5041252
Sounds like chaser central

>>5041217
Not really x.x I recognize my brother is an 11/10, but I'm not into that.
>>5041224
Same here! I want my pink hair back >.< I looked like Lightning from FFXIII
>>5041225
I guess incest is a popular fetish...
>>5041226
I want nothing more in life <333
>>5041244
It's pretty neato when I'm not scared of everything

>>5041248
Which has nothing to do with this.

>>5041246
A true hon will always be a hon, no matter the amount of money.
Surgery can only do so much... If the hon is 60, and even large and masculine for a male, no amount of money can fix them being a hon.

>>5041242
>They say money can't buy happiness....but those niggas weren't rich haha.
Money can't buy happiness.
If you lose everyone you cared for, got sever PTSD, as well as severe delusions. Money isn't gonna do shit, you'll be miserable.

That thing only goes for people who have a good life, for them obviously money will make them happier.

>>5041255
>chaser central

That would be the audience. Ideally, MTFs would join for the purpose of establishing relationships and finding financial/emotional support.

Sissies would have the option of posting premium content.

>>5041216
You sound pretty okay though but yeah anxiety is a pain in the ass.

>>5041220
>Pittsburgh
I'm so sorry anon

>>5041254
kiwi doesn't like you either

>>5041252
Fug I would actually join that
Whatever it takes for the body I want

>>5041258
Wow. That sounds like a dream.

>>5041261
For a billion dollars you could probably get a brain transplant tho

>>5041254

anon doesn't like anyone though lol
random dickheads are....well.....dickheads, so. i guess that makes sense

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>>5041239
Until my roomies leave
>How is it successful?
My father is a becoming a well known (Slowly getting up there) actor, and because of him I have ~a shitload~ of industry connections. Also, I was born into an upper middle class family, so I have a lot of things going for me.
That's the thing. If I could press a button and be a girl in an instant I would. But that's not the reality we live in. I'm not sure if I'd be happier just living my life with my fairly lucky card in the lottery if life, or if I'd be happier transitioning and dealing with the health issues, the very real possibility of looking terrible, and all that shit.

>>5041265
>I'm so sorry anon
You dissin on my pitt eleri?

>>5041264
Make sure to have a backup plan for when the Feds raid you for hosting underage prostitution shit
Because that's what's gonna happen if it gets big

>>5041267

Yep, it would serve as a platform for people like you. Males like me would be after sissies to totally dominate and customize. The potential to fall into something sincere would exist, but you'd essentially be marketing yourself as a piece of meat to start with (in exchange for a male with resources to facilitate your transition).

>>5041264
So its trans chaser central

>>5041275

It wouldn't be more scandalous than a dating site with a few extra layers.

>>5041278

Yes, but MTFs are fine with that. Provided they're made to feel as though their owned and protected, they'll accept sentiments like mine. Like it or not, most males who profess an interest in you are chasing novelty, complete control over a weaker male (to make into a plaything) or both.

>>5041277
I honestly have no problem with any of that
Fuck it sign me up

>>5041261
>tfw forever a hon

>>5041273
You think you'll be disowned by your family?
Not to be mean, but you don't look like the typical guy... If they were bigots they'd probably already gotten rid of you, or at least threatened it.

So you'd rather be a rich man than a fairly financially well off girl?

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>>5041272
I'm gonna ask for your opinion on this cause I'm bored and have butterflies and can't sleep
left is a month before hormones, right is 7 months (almost 8 now)

Not wearing any makeup or abusing lighting or filters or anything. What's the damages, fam-ages?

>>5041261
>Which has nothing to do with this
How does it not having anything to do with this?

>>5041281

As an example, I'd put you to work jacking off in front of a cam (and occasionally getting fucked in the rump) as another income stream. I'd allocate a portion of your earnings to customize parts of your body I deem appropriate. Almost every element of your appearance would be analyzed, measured and made arousing -- you'd be functioning in a highly clinical environment when not performing chores around the home (or just relaxing with video games, whatever).

>>5041287
Because it's an example, using two extremes.
You think anon is gonna suddenly turn 60 and get 1 billion dollar if anon decides not to transition?

Stop being such a pathetic autistic loser.

>>5041286
Being honest no hugboxing you look like an obvious trans person. Sorry no pass

>>5041286
Your eyes are really pretty, if you don't pass in that second pic you're really close, which is nice considering no makeup and short hair. You're gonna be total qt if you put in the effort. Like absurdly qt. [spoiler]and you're already an upgrade from Cheska, you earned that d jocey![/spoiler]

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>>5041284
No, I'm not afraid they'd disown me. I know they wouldn't.
People don't tell you this, but life throws you a lot of freebies if you don't look ugly. It throws you even more if you look good, and I'm aware of this.
I'm just not sure if I absolutely couldn't live with being a guy. that's the thing I'm stuck on. I know I'd /rather/ be a girl, but can I /not exist/ as a feminine dude? I just can't tell.
Also, no offense taken. I'm well aware that I fit the "pretty boy" stereotype at the moment, and have for most of my life. Genetics just kinda favored it, I guess. A lot of people assume that you're a bitch because of it which sucks, though.

>>5041288
Honestly it's a lot better than stocking groceries and I can lose my v card.
If this was actually an established thing I'd jump in.
Get started

>>5041289
>using two extremes
The first one is def more possible to happen then the latter tbh. My point is if you're trying to convince them to transition using an example like being completely passable then you are giving them false hope.

Stop being a hugboxing tranny that tries to convince everyone to transition to be as miserable as you.

>>5041280
I just prefer to use dating sites where normal people can see me, and no one knows I'm trans initially. Your site idea is useless for anyone who doesnt want to be fetishized.

>>5041288

If placed in such an arrangement, how compliant do you imagine the average transgirl would be? I'd expect total submission within the content of serving as a wifey -- bending over as needed, cooking, being my bang-maid. Would the prospect of being rejected and tossed out shape your behaviour considerably?

>>5041296

Thanks for the encouragement. It will serve as a nice pool of mates for me (and a useful source of income -- chasers would be charged something for messaging/content).

>>5041297
>My point is if you're trying to convince them to transition using an example like being completely passable
I'm not, it's just your severe autism that makes you see things.
Get a therapist.

>>5041298

Being fetishized is virtually unavoidable, and that's something you'll need to come to terms with. There's middle-ground, sort of, in that some males are capable of viewing you as a fetish and a source of affection/companionship.

My site would cut through the bullshit and you'd be exposed to males willing to potentially take you seriously and take ownership of you (sponsoring your transformation largely on their terms).

>>5041305

It could also serve as a platform through which to promote yourself, whether via webcam, clips, whatever. You could command an audience of fans and receive incredible attention.

>>5041295
>but can I /not exist/ as a feminine dude?
Why the fuck would you? Because you can? That's dumb.

>People don't tell you this, but life throws you a lot of freebies if you don't look ugly. It throws you even more if you look good
You literally think it's worth more to get a free milkshake by some gay man, than to a girl?

So stop bitching and transition if you rather be a girl.
If everything doesn't work out perfectly, I bet your family can pay for some surgery you want.

>>5041310

I know attention is like crack for most of you -- it intoxicates you (in addition to feeling "owned" or "possessed").

>>5041304
>I'm not
Lol you are trying to convince them to transition in a subtle kind of way. Stop projecting your autism issues onto me fam.

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>>5041239
>Would you say a hon that has a billion dollars is successful?
success is being and doing exactly what u want in life in the moment u live in, so it's really relative imho

I think if u want to measure success from the perspective of society that being rich and influential in some way beats being passable at burger king

>>5041261
money can buy happiness tho, buy meds, plane tickets, surgery, homes, food, anti depressants, education, and any number of things that let u progress in life

being poor definitely makes life much worse tbh

>>5041258
y-yes lets do it ^^;;

omigosh pink hair!!! <3

>>5041312

You'd have the option of posting videos/images of your transition and receiving massive feedback. Meanwhile, a male interested in sculpting your body into a source of sexual ecstasy (through surgery, injections, hormones) would take custody of you.

>>5041261
>Money can't buy happiness
I beg to differ. Poor people just don't know!

>>5041136
Oh my gosh yay I hope they grow soon

>>5041315
>money can buy happiness tho, buy meds, plane tickets, surgery, homes, food, anti depressants, education, and any number of things that let u progress in life
So, money can cure cancer?
Money can't buy everything. If money could buy everything it'd give you happiness, but there are some things you need in life that money can't buy.

>>5041313
Nope, autistic freak.

I'm pointing out what success really is.
Having money doesn't make you successful, but doing things that are important to you does make you successful.

Not having money just puts some limitations on you.

>>5041312
You're mental.

>>5041318
Except the "money can't buy happiness" thing comes mostly from rich people in dysfunctional shit. Most old money families are fucked in some way.

>>5041318
>A millionaire in a vegetative state is really happy!
>Somebody in that situation has all the possibilities in the world!
Fucking retard.

>>5041321

Somewhat, but also imaginative. You know what drives Instagram? The female thirst for attention and worship. They live for the stuff. This extends to a subset of MTF transsexuals who will feel immense pleasure from eyeing raw figures of males who jack off to them.

>>5041311
No, I mean freebies like
big stuff
not some free milkshake
I'm obviously not articulating myself well here.
I'm just torn between living life as a dude, and being okay with just being a feminine dude (because I know for a fact that a lot of stuff like body hair, hueg muscles, strong jawlines etc disgusts me if it's on myself) or transitioning.
Since life has thrown me a more feminine body to begin with, I'm wondering if it's worth it to change it or be happy with what I have and live in moderate discomfort.

>>5041286

my prediction is that in a year you'll fail boymode almost always and look cis by the 2 year mark. just keep growing your hair out, that will also help you a lot. your face has changed a lot tho which i think is pretty obvious

>>5041326

Part of being a successful website operator (which I am -- I own one the larges fetish sites and collect thousands of dollars in webcam revenue each month) is reducing humans to basic drives and capitalizing on those drives/needs.

>>5041325
do you think stephen hawking would have lived as long as he has or had his fancy state of the art wheelchair with a voice modulator without being rich and famous?

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money cant buy happiness but it can buy the next best thing

>>5041328
I look like the most obvious trans girl in existence and people still seem to like me

>>5041320
money can buy cancer treatment and buy surgery which can save ppl from dying from cancer, so yes, money can increase the chance of surviving cancer drastically

>Money can't buy everything.
being poor doesn't but anything tho

as I already explained, money buys many things and opens up opportunities that can drastically improve quality of life, and if that isn't happiness to u then idek

>>5041328
It's very possible that it won't last though. Or that you could make it last better with limited transition depending on how you do things.

>>5041286
With that amount of change it would be surprising if you had long term issues on hrt.

>>5041331
having money will buy you best health care available, but still can't buy happiness

>>5041320
>Nope, autistic freak.
Lol I don't think you're using that meme correctly fam.

>I'm pointing out what success really is
>the trans girl making min wage would be happier then the rich hon
So according to you transition is success right? lol

>Having money doesn't make you successful, but doing things that are important to you does make you successful.
Poor people always say that haha.

>Not having money just puts some limitations on you
aka a shitty life.

>>5041305
And yet That's not good enough for me

>>5041337
yes it can, if you have the money you can literally do anything you want
even kill people and get away with it

>>5041331
Do you think he'd rather have his illness and the money, or not have the money but not have the illness?

>>5041334
>money can buy cancer treatment and buy surgery which can save ppl from dying from cancer, so yes, money can increase the chance of surviving cancer drastically
So the answer is no.

>>5041336
That's a good point
I guess the #1 thing I'm afraid of in transitioning is the medical dangers, though.

>>5041337
as in what??

the fleeting emotion that all humans experience no matter their economic spending power????

or do u mean it doesn't cure bipolar and manic depressive disorders?? poverty doesn't help with those either fyi

>>5041330
Not that anon but reality is less like porn/trap doujins than you probably think. But hey if it takes off then all the more power to you. I'm sure there's a niche for every possible thing

>>5041340
is this kayla?

>>5041343
>I guess the #1 thing I'm afraid of in transitioning is the medical dangers, though.
there isnt a lot of risk in hrt alone

>>5041339

Yes it is, in that you'd obtain something resembling an ordinary relationship. A male willing to render you his wifey, keep you around, protect/guide and validate you is something you crave. For simply being treated as a human (with feelings) you'd (literally) bend over for such a guy.

>>5041344
just curious, what's your idea of rich? how much worth?

>>5041342
well u have ur mind set on money being useless so it doesn't matter how compelling the argument is now idk

>>5041343
Medical dangers? Most of them are vastly overstated. Bioidentical hormones are almost entirely without risk, spiro has few particularly bad side effects, cypro a bit more.

>>5041338
>Poor people always say that haha.
I think you might lack perspective honestly.

>>5041328
You're like recently 18 (if you're not, then shut up).
You don't think you won't get any more masculine than you are now? Most of us somewhat feminine at that age, and almost all of us could pass as girls at age 13-14.

In a few years you'll look like a regular guy.

Do you want to look like a guy, and get big favors from gay men. Or do you want to transition, and have a fair shot at living as a girl?

>>5041329
thanks for the analysis fam
>tfw boymode is already starting to fail
>tfw bobs popping out everywhere

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>>5041333

so tru fam

>>5041344
Ok, lets set you up with a deal.

You'll be in an accident, you'll be paralyzed from the neck down, and lose ability to speak.
You'll be kept alive, and you'll get a billion dollars from an insurance company.

Are you gonna take the deal?
You have the money, so you can buy yourself the happiness you want.

>>5041336
Issues? Whatcha mean? And yeah I lost like 50 pounds and hormones happened so I'm glad change is noticeable.

>>5041343
don't less to this dummy >>5041347

hrt is not healthy for you
it's the first thing you must stop for any major medical emergency or life risk

>>5041342
without his illness he wouldnt have had the time to withdraw internally to discover the nature of black hole theory and would probably be relatively unknown but still wealthy and normal.
I am pretty sure he considers the illness part of who he is, but like I said, without the money to afford him long life he would have died forty years ago

>>5041346
no
I am serious
the rich get away with murder, and if you are rich and say you are bored then you are a very very very stupid person. this world is big enough with enough stuff to do and knowledge to learn that it would take several lifetimes to try.

>>5041348

Most MTFs struggle with being treated like novel pieces of meat. Some of us view you as both novel and easy to dominate, but also having the potential to give rise to a potent bond.

>>5041358
>hrt alone
>any major medical emergency

lrn 2 read

>>5041357
Basically you should have 0 problems passing in the mid to long term.

>>5041353
>implying bobs will make you pass
having bobs will make you look like a boyish guy with tits

>>5041356
this is a really weak strawman

>>5041349
it's relative, but certainly someone in poverty in africa dying of disease and unable to get dirt cheap medication is not going to be rich

if u have enough money to be able to do everything u desire without making concessions or having a negative impact on ur life, then u are personally rich imho

>>5041356
well the other side of the deal is that I'm paralyzed neck down and have no money, now I can't even be steven hawkings and will die in an abusive nursing home

>>5041359
His mental capability has nothing to do with this.
We're not arguing that "having extraordinary mental capabilities makes you happy". Money didn't buy him that intelligence.

Would he rather have his illness with the money, or not have his illness without the money? He can do whatever he wants with his life, he can still be just as intelligent without the money.

>>5041362
obviously you can't

>>5041358
You have to stop HRT because estrogen increases the risk of blood clots, which are a problem during surgery, not because "hrt kills u!!!1"

>>5041367
>well the other side of the deal is that I'm paralyzed neck down and have no money
No, it's not. Stop with your retarded strawmen.
The other side is that you live the life you live now, or just some ordinary cis life in a first world country (since they will complain they're not happy).

>>5041368
you're strawmanning
he can't go back and not have ALS because its genetic, either way he would be wealthy but the point was and is that he has been able to live a relatively normal life despite ALS because he is wealthy

>>5041363
oh word, thanks. now the million dollar question...will I be cute? we shall know soon

>>5041348
Except you're absolutely wrong. If I chose to date a dude, it would have to be someone who depended on me to take care of them and respected me as the dominant party. The reverse would only be true if i were dating girls.
And beside that, you seem to be operating off some idiot notion that straight men would never date a trans woman, or tat trans women are only dated as a novelty. And while that may be majority of the truth, it's not absolute. Personally, i don't think i could date anyone who needed or wanted to have sex.

>>5041373
I'm not.

The argument is that if you have money you'll be the happiest, no matter the circumstances. You're arguing that he's happier in a wheelchair dying wit the money, than being healthy and without the money.

>>5041370
hrt will not kill you, but your body will be better off without it

your kidneys/liver/heart and vascular are better off without hrt

>>5041378

You're a rarity in that you fashion yourself a top. I'm referring to the broader population of MTF transsexuals who are essentially extreme male homosexuals and desire complete domination.

There would be room for female (chasers) and male (bottoms) on the site. In fact, I imagine you'd have immense success extracting money from some weakling who wants your cock.

>>5041371
uhh no it isn't, I'm not the one crafting absurd strawmen tbh... but like I said u have set ur mind on something so it doesn't matter

ppl can get hrt cos of money, even if they don't pay it directly it comes out of taxes, but not even that is gonna sway u at this point

>>5041384
Cis straight females are essentially extreme male homosexuals.

>>5041380
but he was wealthy before his health deteriorated, and was born with ALS
if he had not have had wealth, he would have died in his early thirties being unable to afford care.

you're constructing a what if scenario just to tear down, you are strawmanning.
he is perfectly happy just being alive, thanks to wealth... if he were poor beforehand he would be a gravestone.

>>5041385
People that live comfortable healthy lives aren't happy.
But money can buy happiness.

That means, no matter the circumstances, even if you're a veggie, or completely paralyzed, you can buy yourself happier than the average person.

>>5041381
Do you try to dissuade people from eating chocolate or spending more than 10 minutes outside per day because its unhealthy? There isn't much risk at all if you get blood tests

>>5041387
Most of the care in question was gotten on the NHS, not through private wealth.

>>5041387
I'm making comparisons, you retarded shit head.
I'm not SPECIFICALLY talking about hawkings.

I bet half of you aren't even trans, just autistic enough to think you're trans.

You're saying somebody that is completely paralyzed, shunned by all of society, has lost everyone they will ever care about, is in chronic physical pain, and a myraid of painful mental illnesses, can buy happiness.

>>5041393
>I'm making comparisons, you retarded shit head.
insults are the last retreat of someone losing an argument

>>5041396
Being autistic is the last retreat of somebody being autistic.

Detransition.

>>5041397
nope, you've lost.
sorry.

>>5041384
>Top
Again asexual. In terms of relationship, a power bottom.
And again, your vision of trans people is eschewed. None of us are male honosexuals gone off the edge. We're females of varying sexual complexities.
And some more advice: most trans girls don't like using their genitals at all. And they want relationships, not sex work.

>>5041106

wow, such frump, very ugly

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What do you think of this as sort of a preliminary logo? Just threw it together -- something minimalistic but effective is what I'd aim for.

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>>5041393
>>5041397
All I can think about is this webm

good night mtfg
tomorrow i become a woman like my role model bruce
look out, there's a new linebacker in town and her name is Jocelyn

>>5041405
fetishist pls go

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Does this look normal for a year and a half of hrt? I'm a ginger, so the freckles are unrelated, just feel like my tits are god awful looking.

>inb4 chasers

>>5041391
comparing eating chocolate to walking out the door is not even close to the amount of wear and tear you put on your organ systems with hrt

for this reason is exactly why you have to see and endo for the rest of your life

>>5041405

You sissies are on the verge of surpassing western women in terms of desirability. You possess an intense desire to emulate that which is conventionally feminine, please your mate sexually, and you have a massive fear of rejection which makes you easy to control. You'd enjoy playing wifey and serving a male without being combative or recalcitrant in the slightest.

>>5041413
Those are freckles? They look like razor burn

>>5041417
Definitely not razor burn. Don't have any chest hair to shave.

>>5041414
>why you have to see and endo for the rest of your life
Endos know next to nothing about sex hormones and a lot of doctors and shrinks are still actually puzzled why the hell it's endos who are involved.

Minor bloodwork every couple of years is mostly a redundant safety after a while, and is mostly to justify coverage of future prescriptions.

I have never, ever seen an endo. I haven't self medded in 8 years.

>>5041413
pretty cute tbqh, and the shape is pretty standard for hrt. It's also not uncommon for cis women, I had an ex that had a similar shape.

>>5041413
I don't know if its normal but your chest is cute in that picture.

>>5041413
It's kinda flat but it looks pretty cute to me.
We'd need a pic showing more of your body (shoulders and belly) to see how it really looks tho.
I'm jelly of your skin.

>>5041413

I'd happily stick my dick in you whilst playing with your tits, even if they are a bit red.

>>5041410
>tfw won't get dick after only 7 months of hrt

>>5041405
>>5041413

See, this individual is clearly shopping for attention/validation while pretending to preempt "chasers". This is why sissify.me would work -- it taps into a set of strong needs among transsexuals.

>>5041413
Omigosh, I wish I had freckles on my chest! So jelly

>>5041422
>>5041423
Well that's much better than the alternative. I would do a better pic if I could, just my only camera is my phone, which makes broad pictures difficult. :(

>>5041425
Awesome! :D

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anyone going take Kayla's offer for free weekend in warm socal island, ALL EXPENSES PAID?

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>>5041429
Here's your (You)

>>5041415
people aren't genres, or memes fam. but that's broadly accurate.

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>>5041431
I don't think she wants me to go

>>5041429
Literally untrue. Just drunk and depressed about my body. Just wanted public input on my tits, which I felt like shit about.

>>5041430
Hah, I think they make me look diseased, but maybe that's just me.

>>5041437

I find I get what I want with greater ease when viewing people as instruments with a basic set of drives (taking into account inter-individual variation). I know what buttons to press.

>>5041439

I said validation, which is what you sought and got. You'd use a platform through which to seek affirmation/validation on a regular basis for the sheer reassurance/comfort of the thing. There's no shame in wanting to receive positive attention from people you desire as suitors.

>>5041439
It took me awhile to love my freckles, but most people think they are super qt on girls.

>>5041432
I'm not a masochist.

>>5041438
>>5041432
I fail.
>>5041431
Better than potato cam