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Why is everyone so obsessed with having the shortest barrel possible on their rifles?
Doesn't it undercut the effectiveness of the cartridge?
SBRs are a meme and they look shit, too
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>>35190811
you look shit
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>>35190811
>Doesn't it undercut the effectiveness of the cartridge?
this is the only meme here, retard. kys.
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>>35190811
military configurations seem to indicate 14.5" barrel is optimum for gen purpose M4
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>>35190811

CoD LARPers who think having "spechul forces gunz" makes up for being fat, ugly and completely lacking in any sort of real masculinity
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This thread is shit
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>>35190846
>post from the childrens corner
shouldn't you be teleporting into a katana thread right now?
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>>35190811
dude if I was a CLEO i would say this and refuse to sign off on your forms anons.

ops a dick.
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>>35190830
>>35190835
>>35190836
>>35190846
Post-purchase rationalization: the posts
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.300 Blackout maintains it's ballistic effectivness all the way down to eight inches. Even Europoor manufactorers like HK are recognizing its efficacy and are chambering all of their assault rifles in the caliber now.
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>>35190811
They still work out to 300 yards and frankly I can't be fucked shooting someone further than that. It's also handy having a short little rifle.
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>>35190878

>post purchase rationalization
>from people who never bought the stupid product
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>not using .300 Blackout, which is optimized for 9" barrels
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>>35190875
No CLEO signature required anymore
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>>35190811
Question. Doesn't barrel length affect the effectiveness of 5.56? I don't know shit about ARs.
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>>35190878
if your pea sized child brain cant see the multitude of advantages to having the option of a shorter barreled fighting rifle you probably don't really belong here
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>>35190933
>I don't know shit about ARs.
neither does op obviously
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>>35190915
>>35190902
>using .300 meme-out
>ever
That shit will not penetrate IIIa armor, it has no business being a rifle cartridge.
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>>35190933
You lose about 300f/s in muzzle velocity, which to be fair is death for a pistol or PCC, but kind of unnoticeable in effect for a 5.56; since you're still getting a cool 2800.
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>>35190954
Niggers breaking into your house aren't wearing IIIa body armor.

Sand monkeys chimping out in Paris aren't wearing IIIa body armor.
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>>35190936
>gimping an already anemic cartridge by firing out of a pistol length barrel
Sure thing, friendo, tell me about all of your l33t oper8ing in urban warfare situations
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>>35190811
Easier to move around the house for home defense.
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>>35190975
I can maneuver around my house unimpeded with an 18" barrel
What kind of poverty dwelling do you live in?
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>>35190972
Tell me about the 500 yard engagements you're preppin for
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>>35190811
It's much easier to use a short barrel rifle in the bush/out of a car when slotting pigs/deer/other feral animals than it is a 16" or 20" rifle.
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>>35190971
If you read crime statistics you would know that gang members are all but guaranteed to be wearing vests when they're out doing crimes
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>>35190985
Just because you can do it doesn't mean it isn't easier to slice the pie in a narrow hallway with a shorter rifle. Why do you care so much what other people have anyway? I don't even care what my rifle's barrel length is, it just happens to be a 16" out-of-the-box AR. Serves my purposes just fine.
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>>35190989
Gladly
Im prepping for not having to pay out my ass for an NFA tax stamp, and not having to have a retarded piece of rubber with a big hole in it instead of a buttstock on my "rifle"
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>>35190971
Except they are. Which is why GIGN is switching to CZ 806's in 7.62x39.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/11/gign-adopts-cz-806-bren-2-7-62x39/
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>>35191001
It's not that i care, but it seems that the hottest new meme in the firearms community is a how-low-can-you-go arms race to see who can put the shortest barrel on the most tacticool AR with the most retarded """pistol stability brace"""
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>>35191022
>crying about $200
sucks to suck, poorfag.
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>>35191039
>2010 the post
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>>35190811
>they look shit
Ok, take a big step back and fuck your own face you stupid fucking bongoloid.
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>>35191039
>the hottest new meme in the firearms community
nobody here gives a shit what normies do. fuck off back to ar15 forums or where ever you came from.
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>>35191039
People like to rice their shit. Let them waste their shekels playing soldier.
>desu even though my rifle is 16" I want a full length Vietnam style AR
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>>35191060
>not preferring a big, beautiful, full-sized barrel
Is it because you think you aren't man enough to handle her?
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>>35191026

The French are fucking wierd - GIGN is also the same organization that insists on being issued revolvers do this day.

The HK237, HK337 and most likely the HK433 don't lie. Rumors have it that DEVGRU has also played with the cartidge - you'll see AP loads in the near future though it'll never be ideal for counter-terrorism.
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>>35191046
Wonder why the tax $200 to make rifle suck?
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>>35190811
they are shit, they just don't like having a heavy rifle when they're laying in bed saying "pew pew" to themselves at night
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>>35190932
ah very well.
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>>35190985
I do fine in my apartment with the 16 inch. Would love GI 14.5, but that's mostly because the 16 inch looks weird.
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>>35190811

Because needing 25" to accommodate the upper of a disassembled rifle with a 16" barrel means your backpack or bag is fucking huge and ridiculous looking. Cutting that by almost a third gives you a discreet package that can be taken anywhere for whatever purpose you may have without drawing the attention of the authorities or nosey assholes.
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>>35190811
Looking cool>""""performance""""
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>>35190985
>he bought the 18" barrel after hemming and hawing with countless hours of digital "experience"
>he made the ultimate cucks decision

>lé compromise
hey look at this faggit
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>>35191022
>pay out the ass for a tax stamp
>$200
>out the ass
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>>35192221
>putting your rifle in a backpack
Who does this?
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>>35192435
If its so cheap then why do heaps of people opt for the """pistol""" with """pistol brace""" meme configuration?
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>>35192455
The same reason that niggers shoot hi-points.

Some people are just poor lol
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>>35192455
Because California is a place run by niggers who have laws that prevent you from getting an SBR.
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>>35192444

People who actually transport their rifle for a purpose instead of just wandering around with it like a tryhard faggot.
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>>35192455
>because what do during 9 month ATF wait
>what is instant gratification
>what is getting away with perceived ""loophole"

>what is autism
>(You)
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>>35192502
Get a car and use a case you poorfag
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>>35192455
poor
too lazy/stupid to figure out how to fill out paperwork (see: everyone using turbotax on april 16)
"I don't want to wait 6 months so I'll just never get it"
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>>35192539
So having a short barrel is so unimportant that you're not willing to wait for a proper version of it, and instead choose a retarded crippled configuration that further gimps performance
Nice logic there
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>>35192554
>it's unimportant because some retards aren't patient enough to wait on their paperwork.
Nice logic there
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>>35192554
fiteme
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>>35192574
If it was really that much of a revolutionary feature, then more people would consider it worth the wait.
But it can't be, because people choose an inferior version (practically a range toy) because it isn't worth their time
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>>35192579
Optimum barrel length right there, my man
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>>35192592
thats the lame cartridges fault, and 5.56 will be replaced or further evolved because of it (eventually) Smaller is better
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>>35192554

So having a short barrel is so unimportant that you're willing to wait for months for the government to sign off on your right to it, instead of choosing a functionally identical and easily convertible configuration that further reduces the cost without gimping performance
Nice logic there.
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>>35190811
They're lighter and more maneuverable. Only negatives to them are their muzzle blast and the NFA (still waiting on my stamp).

>Doesn't it undercut the effectiveness of the cartridge?
Yes, to an extent, but my 11.5" AR with 64gr Speer Gold Dot .223 is plenty effective out to around 200 yards. You live in a suburb, not the mountains of Afghanistan.

Tell us about your operator fantasies where you're engaging multiple threats several hundred yards out, OP
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>>35192646
>he doesn't run a bayonet
gimp
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>poor people aren't patient
>they get a budget version instead of waiting and paying for a better version
Breaking news anon proves that expensive things are worse than cheaper things because less people buy them. Ferrari has subsequently ceased all car production, Holland & Holland announces plans to shut down.

You're a retard. SBRs are great for PCCs and for people that want reproductions of older firearms, or building parts kits.
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>>35192646

If it's only good to 200, why don't you just make the switch to 300blk at that point? I mean, it's a meme round, but at least within those ranges it's actually superior in terms of energy and penetration. It's not losing anything from the short barrel, either. Even without a can it's moderately easier on the muzzle blast and noise, too.
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>>35190933
Use 77gr ammo and keep fucking shit up. No shit you won't be able to reliably shoot things out to +300m with a SBR, that's common fucking sense so talking about effective range is retarded as fuck
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>>35192646
I normally think that having the buffer tube visible looks like ass, but I really like it with the stock on the left. nice looking rifle!
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>>35192666
Only thing stopping me is ammo availability at this point. If the cost per round drops a bit more then I'll probably get an SR-30 upper

>>35192677
Thanks man
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