Sharpening knives

>>35184811
youtube

>>35184823
Thank you, /k/, I've certainly never thought to try that before.

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>>35184811
Somebody posted this.
Its for 50$ to make razor edges

>>35184811
dunno i kind of managed to get the kitchen knives sharp enough to shave with the first go. had to stop cause gf was pissed. she said she can't do shit with those knives they are too sharp. i'm like "what there is no such thing as a knife too sharp" but she insisted i fuck right off.

i had to dull the blades so she got using them again.

>>35184937
This here is what I'm talking about; I want to be able to actually have sharpened blades.

>>35184945
there is nothing magical about it you just have to use consistent angles and enough rough stone and you will have a sharp knife.

>>35184937
You would be surprised by the shear number of people who dont know how to use a sharp knife. Most people never sharpen their kitchen knives and just get used to them being dull pieces of crap.
When presented with a sharp knife, all the stupid safety things they dont bother doing actually cut them now. So they blame the knife instead of learning to be safe.

>>35184811
It would help to know more about what you are sharping. Some steel will not take a hair popping edge. Other steel can only be sharpened with diamonds and ceramics.
We need more info to give good answers.

you're angling it wrong

>>35184811
Just run it up and down some blue jeans.

>>35184987
Mostly hunting/fillet knives, but It couldn't hurt to have my kitchenware sharp, too.

>>35184811
>tried whetstones, files, and belts, but nothing works.
Noobs make three kinds of mistakes:

Holding the blade at too low an angle so they only grind off the corner between the bladeface and the bevel, which means they never reach the actual apex of the bevel. That way you can grind away on the stone for an hour and the knife never gets any sharper. Check for this mistake by painting the bevel with a black Sharpie marker before sharpening. Also, always check for the formation of a burr when you think you have finished with one side. If there is no burr that means you haven't reached the apex.

They do not use a proper progression of stones - much too little on the rough stones, much too long on the finer ones.

They do not properly remove the burr after they have finished with the bevel. Drag a woolen sock or an old, soft cotton cloth kitchen towel along the edge on both sides. If it doesn't slide smoothly, makes little scratchy/tearing sounds or you see bits of fuzz stuck to the edge under a magnifying glass then there is still a burr. A good indication is also when you can shave with the knife in one direction, but not in the other.

Other than that, yes, youtube. Watch the channels from Korin Knives or from Japanese Knife Imports/Jon Broida. Or come visit us at www.kitchenknifeforums.com. It not called the sharpest place on earth for nothing.

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>>35184852
LOL, my knife Anon!
This set is to OP for OP because its to get High Carbon Knifes sharpe (spliting hairs)...
sure you can use it for normal steel but you can this with a normal stone, skills and practise like this guy>>35184937

I use this setup for EDC-knifes, kitchenknifes/killing chicken with stones but the same stroping shit + its OK when cheap knifes cut hairs

>>35184811
Remember the difference between sharpening and honing.

You still need to hone your knife after you sharpen it.

>>35184987
Like my mom
>sharpen 1knife
>cuts fingers
>4weeks later , i want all
>women cant hold the edge, throwing it on steel...
>10wornings
>being me, desharpening all

>>35185017
Most likely you are not setting the angle correct. A fillet knife needs a very fine angle of 12-15°. A hunting knife that will be used for more than just skinning would be best served with 20-25°.
The next thing is most knife will not have the angles set like that from the factory. So when you go to sharpen to how you want you will need to re-profile the edge to your liking.
>>35185021
Has some good points about using a sharpie to tell where you are actually grinding down.

Also you dont use files unless it is a machete or axe. If you mean sanding belts, those are probably way to coarse to get a good edge and are likely to remove to much metal.
Whetstones are good if you know the grit of them.
Wet dry sandpaper layed on a piece of glass is also exellent for just getting started. Read some forums on Shaving razors also.

>>35185116
>wet dry sandpaper
Wait, what?

>>35185111
what

>>35185021
ME
>to small angel, but grinded well
>strope very well with Chromium and Fe2O3
>muh, sharp knife
>cant hold edge
Now
>angles good
>every steel gets a 10K grind finish
>stroping it like its carbon steel
>sharp and longlife
Yes ANON, every noob thinks hes right but later...
Now

>>35185151
she likes it but dont care them.
Desharpen all now she cares more because sharpening takes time

>>35185130
its sandpaper intended to be used wet OR dry, instead of dry sandpaper which is usually made out of literal wood pulp paper with normal-ass sand on it, or wet sandpaper, which is intended to be used while wet and usually some kind of rough cloth with rougher stuff set into it

maybe you should google shit before tryna be a smartass you nigger cucc

>>35185130
Sandpaper meant to be used either wet or dry.
Fucking notools beta manlet NEET detected.

>>35184945
you should be able to get a decent edge out of a single 180 grit stone. edge will be messy sure, but it should cut very well. if it's not sharp at that grit then no point moving up.

>>35185130
Its most often used by wood workers to sharpen chisels and planes but works just as well for knives. Wet dry sandpaper, can be found in the automotive sections of most stores by the paint. It comes in higher grits of 400, 600, 800, 1500 and up.
If you already have a good edge on it you can start around 400 grit. If you dont have a good edge and you need to reprofile the blade a little, start with a high quality 220 grit.
You lay the paper on top of a super flat surface, glass is a very good one and is rather cheap and easy to get.
You might need to glue or tape the edges of the sand paper down so it doesnt move.
From there you treat it just like a whetstone, add a little water and push the blade over the paper.

>>35185199
Oil is much better than water in my opinionm I use Ballistol.

>>35185224
I use Vaselin for the 3000 and 10000Grid
Ballsitol is nice but cost a lot in Germany

>>35184823
/thread

>>35185224
Yes a light weight oil is also good, but not always needed.

>>35184811
Stropping my lad, stropping

>>35185111
who fucking types like this

Get one of those worksharp pocket sharpeners or the bench one that has the sharpening surface on a rocker. You can be a total noob and still get a good edge.

>>35186234
this
but I think OP wouldn make it because IQ80

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>>35184811
Only way I've gotten it that sharp is with my worksharp belt sharpener.
I can get stuff fairly sharp without it, but this thing just sucks all the effort out of getting a shaving edge with the 8000grit belt. I can get my chef & deer knife hair-popping sharp.
I occasionally strop too with a wood block similar to what is in this post>>35184852, but the main difference for me is the belt sharpener.
I also like my 1200 and 2200 12" ceramic rod combo to get things acceptably sharp quickly since it can still take a lot of effort to repair a terribly neglected edge with the worksharp. And too many people I know have trusted those pull through sharpeners that turn knives to shit.
I feel like I can improve on a factory knife edge on plenty of knives with my rods alone. Some companies seem to ship sharper than others though.

>>35184852
I dunno what I'm looking at

>>35185021
>They do not properly remove the burr after they have finished with the bevel
Is there a special way to do this, or is it just done by going over both sides with your fine stone until the burr ceases to exist?

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>>35186912
u look at my setup for this:
spliting hairs (or sharper) for under 50bucks

>>35185168

kek.

>>35187098
this was a old pic with a double edge.
Now I prefer it normal + the stone gets to 10.000
+ after stroping on Chromium I go to Ironoxid on Balsowood

I had a set of waterstones and a angle reference guides to show me how to hold the blade.

You have to be as consistent and uniform as you can go. And practice and do it a ton.
Early on, I had to spend hours on a single blade and I had rubbed my finger skin off of the stones. But after going at it and adjusting, it's down to 15-30 minutes depending on steel and how anal I am at the moment.

OR you can just buy a guided system for $$$

>>35184852
What set is that

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I like to think i keep my knives decently sharp.

I use heirloom whetstones, One is from the early 1900s, another is from 1980s and looks like granite, and the other is one of those black oil stones(i cant remember the name).

I did this today out of boredom.

>>35187159
https://www.amazon.com/Sharpener-Professional-Sharpening-Fix-angle-III/dp/B015XKSNS2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505596069&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=riuxin+knife

the only way I ever get a decent edge.

>hold knife/axe still with the edge facing away.
>push stone away from me and down the edge of the blade.
>do this until you see a bur on the blade. flip over and repeat. then repeat and repeat a few more times with the coarse stone.
>then repeat process with fine stone.

I never get a good edge when I move the blade and push it across the stone.

>>35184937
Ha pussy

>>35187184

are you will keith?

>>35187098
nobody want's to see your pubes dude

>>35184937
I had a friend of mine cut himself on a knife of mine because "they're not supposed to be that sharp" essentially.

If you're getting them sharp but not a razor edge try buying some finer stones and a leather strop.

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>>35187354
nah im just bored.
That was the first time ive bothered cutting a water bottle.

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>>35186933
N-not that anon, but can I get an answer to this? I have this creeping feeling that I've been doing things wrong for an extended amount of time.

>>35187432
sure, but a finer stone leaves a finer blur.
You can rmove it with something less aggresive like lether/wood and some particles witha greater hardness then your steel (chromiumoxid,diamondpowder...)
then you have something "without" a blure

>>35187546
So don't use the fine stone and use a leather strope to remove the burr instead?

>>35187432
>>35186933
you are always going to have a bur on the stone. The higher the grit the smaller the bur.

How ever stropping against a piece of leather will sort of break down the bur. The leather needs to have a polishing agent on it. I generally just use the the slurry water the builds up on the stone while sharpening.

>>35187565
no, you strope it after you removed the burr as good as you can.
>use the finest stone like the others to polish the metal
>grind 1side and switch for 20times to shorten the burr (with less presure)
>strope it with lether/wood for polishing the edge and remove the invisible burr

thats easy!

>>35185111
w@

use a knife sharpener, its not the 16th century, they have fucking diamonds in them bruh they are 2 dollars at walmart. Sharp enough to shave hairs in literally 10 seconds, its not some hidden art...

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>>35187724
>own 300$+ knife
>unable to shrpen knifes
>2$ walmart trash

This dude is the win(n)er

>>35187748
man if only those chefs with the 2000 dollar scalpel sharp knives used fkn rocks to sharpen them, that would be great. But they dont

>>35187840
They do.

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>>35187840
I sharpen my 30$ knifes like 2000$ ones...
because I like the feel later when cutting things
>my EDC is Ultrasharp
>cant cut a paper because I need to resharp it (for hairsplitting/denimeating)
None-autistic gun and knifefetishist
>my edge need to rip the shitskin in 2 parts
>fuck the shirts, it cuts it like butter
>sure letherjacket, test to cut /stab it to get sure


/k/Live is hard,my dude.

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>>35185111

What?

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>>35187941

>>35188069
its sad because im not autistic
>you can meet my everytime at the streed and take my knide
>it splitt hairs with every inch
>Anon its a tool for normal business
>ehh, sure for "my business" like cutting cartons

shitskins/cartons everywere!!!

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>>35188131
sick

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>>35185083
>>35185111
>>35185154
>>35188131
is retard postan the new meme?

>>35188238
>new meme
thats the oldest meme in the book

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>>35188238
sure, trolling OP with his prob is fine

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>>35186879
I've got one.