Is Ranger School overrated?

Are Army Rangers AnCaps?

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>that color scheme
Fuck I lol'd

>>35175881
>that picture

Ranger School is just seeing if you can keep your wits about you and work as a team while you go with little sleep and little food for weeks.

>>35175902
they also teach you how to float

>>35175902
>work as a team
Implying the peer review system isn't bs

>>35175856
Kind of. US Ranger efficiency is kind of mediocre in the general scheme of things. Bunch of physically demanding training for a relatively short amount of time whille innawoods and you're good to go.

>>35175952
Best method for removing shitters and faggots who don't pull their weight.

>>35175952
>Implying the peer review system isn't bs
So you got rated poorly by your peers, then?

>>35176138
I'm just saying it's easy for a clique to game the system and fuck over someone that didn't do anything wrong

>>35176196
If you get fucked over by a bunch of others serving with you, you absolutely did something wrong.

>>35176196
>implying random pics and other things don't prevent this

Cliques don't work in this environment. Stop being a faggot.

>>35176196
Only people who are shitbags, incompetent, or lacking in social skills are concerned over that. I'm hoping you're not either of those three but when you encounter a shitbag, you want them gone asap.

>>35176196
>"gaming" Ranger school

When they day/k/are hits hard.

>>35176282
Most of the time, those who think they are getting 'gamed' out are the ones who are delusional about their own performance or ability to socially interact in a rifle squad.

Went through 2 years ago, and saw it every phase. Ranger School is nothing like what discovery shows on their Jew-sponsored MSM cuck show to make teenagers wet and geriatric fucks donate their baby boomer dollars to Israel. It's a long-ass grind of misery and gayness with periods of cool shit. If you can't hack it, it's most likely your own fault.

Proof: Blueberry pancakes in mountains, chow birds, CHODE STEVENS, dark eyepro in Florida, the gator lounge, dogex, the boiler etc etc

>>35176233
^this

Act like a fucker and youll get fucked

>>35176625
>misery and gayness
nothing wrong with spooning your battle buddy for warmth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzbr6fPDmkE

My squad leader in Marine Infantry got to go to Ranger School. He was underwhelmed by it. He said it's mostly putting up with miserable conditions, the actual training was nothing harder than what we did any given day in the field.

He might have been given a tab, but since Marines don't wear any patches at all couldn't wear it. He was able to wear his jump wings on his cammies though.

>>35176863
Who has the single most fucked up gauntlet in all the spec forces?
Seals have that giant mountain thing
Rangers have something similar
PJs have long ass times in a big ass diving tube
And force recon has to swim a giant fucking triangle along a beach

>>35176911
Not sure why you're asking me. I was regular Infantry, like I said in my post, 0311.

You do know Ranger School is a course right? Most soldiers do it to get a patch to be part of the boys club. They sometimes let other branches and even allies attend it though.

>>35176950
I assumed all the spec for branches were voluntary classes
And that they all had their own super special tuff mudder on steroids
All based on some discovery channels tho so I might have the wrong idea;
Just wondering if a marine from force recon would have a hard time with ranger school, or anything army related given their different doctrines
I.e.
Army
>know how to shoot down range
Marines
>know how to hit a target

>>35176911
You forgot sapper school

>>35175856
Ranger School != Batt.

The school has some miserable sections, but any competent infantry will pass it unless they get unlucky (and tbf, there's plenty of opportunity for that).

It's not a ~elite~ ~tactical~ school. It's a way to know who is pre-approved for being functional while tired, which is probably more important anyway desu.

>>35177009
Naw man the discovery channel did
The day I was watching they marathonned the three and the jist was each one thought it was the hardest training in the universe

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>>35177000
This entire post

>>35177055
Obviously I'm civvie as fuck m8
Also
>wiki definition of sapper is about leadership
Who the fuck makes up these designations
>classical grenadiers are just riflemen
>classical sappers are basically pioneers, trappers, and engineers
>modern grenadiers are 'dude with grenade launcher'
>modern sapper 'went through leadership training'

>>35177000
If a regular Marine grunt wasn't challenged, I know a force recon guy wouldn't.

The way I understand, or how he explained it is physically it wasn't any more challenging than what we did as Marines during build ups. The difference is we got 6-8 hours of sleep a night, they get like 4. We got as many MREs as we wanted, they underfed them. Shit like that, maybe slightly cooler training because budget. Got to jump out of plane and get his wings.

So once again physically as demanding as what we did, but they make Ranger School miserable to stress them out and see who cracks. Probably why they do that peer review stuff, but my SL never went into details on that.

>>35176911
FFL, Képi blanc

>>35177108
>special forces

As someone with first hand experience with that school, yes it's overrated. It's dumb as hell and a waste of 61 days. I had a friend there for 11 months kek

>>35177075
>>35177000
Is english your second language?

Grenadier originally meant a guy who lobs grenades. It still means this in many modern armies, but it also has another meaning that is historical. Back in the day big ass soldiers could throw big ass grenades further, hence grenadiers were big soldiers that would likely be more use in a "assault the walls bayonet things" mindset. Thus, this led to them seeming elite or better, and "grenadier" was a prized title. The british especially hold onto these titles.

Sappers are, yes, combat engineers. Building or destroying fortifications, clearing mines, etc. etc. The american Sapper school is primarily about leading engineers, not being one. I don't know where you got trappers and pioneers from, but the French call their sappers pioneers iirc.

>>35177108
B4 I google this I hope its actually arduous and not Thai army-tier gay as fuck
>laying down butt ass naked , ass-to-mouth-ass

it's one of the toughest schools anywhere that only begins with the weeding out process; the average troop will lose 35 pounds in ten days, suffer continual hardship in mud, mountains, swamps just to get the thrill of doing same on a steady basis in a Ranger unit. 95% failure rate, for good reason, those who do fail seriously damage their military career path

>>35177157
Yeah I seem to recall the famous song "British grenadiers" but the traditional British grenadier kit just seemed to be a tough soldier
And its at odds with the Wehrmacht grenadiers and fusiliers, who also tended to just be riflemen
Your definition seems 1:1 in accordance with empire total war though but still

>>35177164
>95% failure rate

No, closer to 40% once you're in. The "95%" quotes include the people turned away at the initial PT test, many of whom are deliberately failed because there are simply more applicants than slots to go around.

>>35177142
I call Bull Shit, lets see your tab

>>35177040
this

this this this this this

Going to ranger school does not make one a ranger in battalion. See: every officer who has a tab

>>35177205
It's a requirement for Inf. Officers

Warning: Out of date experience from a non American.

I enjoyed it. I thought it was well led, practical and structured with clear objectives. There were some things that I thought were superfluous and I thought the net was cast too wide, or so to speak, in terms of rank but overall it was good.

It was a very enlightening trip, really. We spent a month at Fort Bragg with 5th SFG afterward. Their 2IC had gone through the school at Johor Baru as an exchange officer and was very well thought of, so they put us up until their next tour started.

>>35177196
It's not at odds. Grenadiers were cool, name things grenadiers, get big hats, boom esprit de corps. Grenadier evokes images like "shock infantry" or otherwise elite status, hence make your guys grenadiers. Why did everyone try to copy the roman legions? Uhlans? Hussars? An each time, it was a diet version of the original with a similar name and makeup. The empire total war definition works. For example, naming anything "special forces" or "spetsnaz' makes them seem 10x cooler, when some of them aren't that more amazing than the average grunt, just trained differently.

>>35177157
Also regarding the wiki definition they just cited that the sapper badge is for leadership training for "combat specialists" which usually has me thinking 'the dude who got special weapons clearance'

As for engineers and pioneers I was referring to the fact that i international armies have vocabularily different but functionally identical classifications
Such as how
fusilier=rifleman
Or
Ranger=jager
Or
Field Marshall= chief of staff

>>35177261
fusilier, jager, Grenadier these title just gives the ugly modern war a little bit of 18th century elegent

>>35176750

this was funnier than i thought

>>35177241
Where you from originally anon?

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>>35175856
Are rangers ancap?

>>35179921
What's ancap?

>>35180630
Anarcho-Capitalism.
Nothing Anarchist about it though. They're just as bad as tankies.

fusilier
this is the only time i've heard that word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEk37t4LWp0

>>35175856
Yes. They're all fucking fags wearing old army rags.

>>35177083
Well, the whole point of having the tab was to train for LRRP back in the day.

>>35175856
bump

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>>35180801
Anarcho-communism is an obvious misnomer. If you prevent people from engaging in free trade or owning property then that is definitely not anarchy. You would have to have some kind of organization to prevent people from doing what they so obviously its not freedom. You guys seriously do the craziest fucking mental gymnastics to try and coopt anarchism.

Also stop fucking promoting violence. You mother fuckers are only going to empower a totalitarian police state. Do you understand how the neo liberal establishment is using you as useful idiots?

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>>35180801
>>35183848
>>35183848
>You would have to have some kind of organization to prevent people from doing what they so obviously its not freedom.
You would have to have some kind of organization to prevent people from doing what they **want** so obviously its not freedom.

Basically you would have to have a state like organization which prevents people from setting up a perimeter and protecting that and controlling that property. Obviously you could set up your own communes and negotiate your own commie microcosms but the big picture has to free or else its just statism or pseudo-statism.

The bottom line is that a hard reset on our society is impractical so part of practical anarchism means replacing centralized authoritarian institutions with decentralized solutions which achieve the same thing and creating an environment where the laws and governance arent *needed* any more. Crypto currency is an example of this and so is the Uber model even if uber is centralized but the model could be applied with crypto currency to subvert and undermine centralization and authoritarianism.

The other aspect is voting for more rights to communities. States need more rights. Cities need more rights. That way we can all have our cake and eat it to. The problem is that the central authority tries to convince you that you need them which is untrue and Trump proved how vulnerable central democratic authority is to the political pendulum. If you think Trump hates minorities you should want states to have more rights so that there can be permanent safe havens for the oppressed. And if you are racist or communist you should also want decentralized authority so you can have your own microcosm or "retard corner."

>>35176625
Any tips you could give to a wannabe Ranger?

>>35184832
Not that anon but this guy made pretty thorough videos about his experience at Ranger School
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKWzLjNqbJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkPGa-nH3h4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOeROuBz_HM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iiy9QGQ6Hp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKSgjoMjf4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V65mxYx5Umw

>>35175871
>>35175881
i sure hope that way i can kill them with ease

>>35183900
Uber is a bad example, the original basic idea of on the fly carpooling has been completely overrun by amateur taxi drivers reverse-mortgaging their cars for shitty pay.

>>35176138
>>35176196
I'm not going to poo poo the peer review system, but if it was followed more religiously you wouldn't have females getting penciled in through ranger school despite failing land navy and falling out of rucks

>>35175856
Anyone that says it's overrated is short sighted.

Ranger school is weed out the weak. Show individuals what they are capable of. Of course standards get lowered over time but that's societies fault not the armies.

All the specialized training happens the 6 months they're home, and all the experience they gain over the 6 months they're gone is what makes the rangers so great.

>>35177216
not a real requirement, just an unspoken one

>>35185273
>All the specialized training happens the 6 months they're home, and all the experience they gain over the 6 months they're gone is what makes the rangers so great.
>t. someone who doesn't know the difference between the 75th Ranger Regiment and Ranger School

>>35175856
"Rangers lead the way!.......... you know, as long as you pay us a fair market price for our services....... and the poeple we're fighting violated the NAP...........we're really into the free market."

>>35180630
garbage
it's just free market capitalism with some fresh meme hype

>>35183900
HURRR RICK AND MORTY SO KOOL HURRRRRRRRR
lmfao you ancaps are looking more and more childish every day; keep it coming it's hilarious
also, I love how you assure you're "right" because you present no actual argument to support that outside the premise of "commies"
kill yourself

>>35183848
eh, technically it's not impossible for it to be legitimate, it is just that in a legitimate form the people that assert their belief in it hate it.

It's how voluntary communism is possible in a capitalist system, except communists are faggots and are not interested in doing so because it would take effort.

>>35185319
If you had read I speak of the training and the school as separate and the purpose of the school before the specialization.
But Hey! I bet you feel smart or something

>>35185387
Ass ravaged commie detected

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>>35183900
>your pic
didn't read your post lol
Fuck commies, I agree, but FUCK reddit. Day of the rope best day of my life, can't wait for normalfag genocide while I cash in my good boy points aka silver for a small estate in west virginia where I shoot each and every nigger and city-dwelling homosexual coalburning normalfag and their normalfag enabler redditor friends that comes within a 5k radius of my property. Can't wait to shoot redditors on the day of the rope, shit will be SO cash.
>>35185325
Nice post, reddit!

>>35176241
> Cliques don't work in this environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKSgjoMjf4g#t=391

>>35185573
I don't think so.

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>>35175856
>AnCap Rangers