Shit people say that doesn't make sense

people used to use muskets in war. doesn't mean we should do that today, bro.

File: 1505405373888.jpg (297KB, 1280x1707px) Image search: [Google]

297KB, 1280x1707px

>>35174317
I'm talking as a caliber.
If .69 ball could be put in a reliably firing, self loading, modern firearm then it would be top tier.
These people try and say that .32 wont kill anyone reliably despite being used in both World Wars, WWII by Italians mainly but still.
I don't think a round that saw significant wartime is incapable of killing people reliably. A .69 ball would rip you open.

>>35174349

.25ACP saw significant use too, but it's a glorified .22LR.

You do whatever you want, but it's understandable that people want .380ACP or more for self-def. There's no real reason not to go higher than .32ACP.

What's the biggest conventional pistol chambered in .32acp? I asked this question years ago, and forgot the answer. There's some obscure full size pistol out there that beats the CZ-83 in length and capacity.

>>35174442
How do you define conventional pistol? The VZ61 is certainly large and in charge.

File: beach_catgirl_by_monorusd8ebfhl.png (608KB, 620x1024px) Image search: [Google]

608KB, 620x1024px

Adequate isnt good enough
Give me 1 reason why i shouldnt use something better

>>35174287
People didn't sterilize surgical equipment back then either. What's your point?

File: 1505143373962.jpg (59KB, 719x923px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 719x923px

>>35174691
That girl's tits are only adequate.
Give me 1 reason why you didn't post a better waifu

File: 208c5c3e79592166f3c900d63d4467835cbec72d_hq.jpg (63KB, 724x1023px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 724x1023px

>>35174778
Flat is best for breasts and ballistics

>>35174349
>reliably despite being used in both World Wars, WWII by Italians mainly but still.
>by Italians
That REALLY isn't a good metric to use.

Regardless its a thing of repeatable efficiency. Both 9mm and .45 are better at it, with wartime 9mm being more reliable at shattering bone after penetration and .45 being better at muscle/tissue wounds damage.

dumb nene-poster

kill yourself weeb

saged

>>35174287
the 2nd amendment applied to weapons of the day like musket rifles.
the founding father never intended for civilians to possess modern weapons of war with a 30 kaliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second,... Thirty,.. magazine clip,.. in half a second

File: 1491622156141.png (760KB, 760x839px) Image search: [Google]

760KB, 760x839px

>>35175161
>tfw need a permit for a musket in Massachusetts regardless of this faggy Liberal argument

>>35174442
Beretta 81?>>35174442

>>35174803
My nigger.

>>35174287
>cap and ball revolvers are unreliable for self defense
>when they were used as the primary pistol during the Civil War
Gee it's like technology improves

>>35175204
.32 is a round for semi auto pistols of which we still use today.
As fucking said in >>35174349

File: 1503520133121.jpg (7KB, 224x225px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 224x225px

>oh I'll have time to rack the slide if I ever have to use my CCW
Nigga you what

>>35175210
This. There are plenty of videos on top of this that show how capable of a round it is. Perfect backup gun to slip into your pocket and not think about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm-STZRzmp8&t=58s

>>35175215
I hate people who say shit like that. My mom is terrified of everything gun related. She thinks that a bullet will out of random just explode like a grenade and kill everyone in the room. She also thinks that guns are unnecessary and that cops will save you despite her being liberal and hating police.

File: 1505073869669.gif (561KB, 625x626px) Image search: [Google]

561KB, 625x626px

>>35175161

>>35174442
AREX makes a full sizer in .32 apparently, but does not import them stateside

File: Smug Galil.jpg (62KB, 530x796px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 530x796px

>>35174349
>>35174317
>>35174287
To quite bloke on the range ".32 ACP was considered for a very long time to be a perfectly sufficient caliber for personal defense until a point when we started to see shall we call it 'recreational pharmaceuticals' catching on in popularity."

>>35175215
clearly youve never met a tokarev carrier you rickposting fagget

>>35174287
A .22 will drop a sober person, a .45 will struggle to put down a crackhead. If you feel like a .32 will put down threats you're likly to face, have at it.

>>35175731
Can you explain this? Not familiar with Toks.

>>35175758
I would never carry only a .32, but I would absolutely carry it as a backup. And for meth/crackheads I feel comfortable with 17 rounds of 9mm magdumped into their head/center mass.

>>35175762
The safety literally doesn't work. You can have it engaged and still pull the trigger a couple of times and the hammer will drop. That's if you even have one with a safety.
Half cock isn't that much more reliable. The only way to carry it truly safely is without a round in the chamber and the hammer cocked so as to make racking the slide easier.

>>35175171
Move to NH and commute. baka

>>35174778
>>35174803
Go back to /trash/

>>35176117
Im discussing ballistics on /k/
Hes the one who brought anime tits into it

>>35174287
Buckshot is too dangerous for HD but .223 is perfect.

>>35176270
>223 is perfect.
Thats more to do with the little tidbit of .223 has a severe tendency to tumble/yaw upon hitting an object and thus bleeds energy like no tomorrow.

File: 002.gif (421KB, 1091x930px) Image search: [Google]

421KB, 1091x930px

>>35175727
>shall we call it 'recreational pharmaceuticals'
You know that coke was sold freely until 1914, right?

.32 was only used because autoloader pistols were new. Look up the .32 it's semi rimmed because browning had no fucking idea what he was doing with auto rounds and just experimenting. it only caught on because there was a lack of other options.
Besides, if you have to stand further than arms distance away the bullets are probably going to lose velocity really fast- while probably being loaded quick enough to get near the sound barrier just long enough that when they start to slow down after a few feet they probably wobble/distabalize and are super inaccurate from that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvP0ql6sZ10

File: Nice Post.gif (1MB, 200x254px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 200x254px

>>35176345
coke isn't the recreational pharmaceutical I'm speaking of. Though it will make you do some shit. Then again, I hasten to ASK what the capacity for pain inhibition Coca and its derivatives possess. And on the note of Coke being sold freely, how popular was it at the time? I think this would be a worthy question to ask A) because damage control and B) because I actually don't know how popular it was, and to what extent it could have been popular without being so popular as to save it from being banned. I just like to accept this proposition because to me it explains why things are still even MADE in mousegun calibers like .25ACP and .32ACP, and it reasonably explains to a degree, under the assumption that recreational drug use was NOT as popular in the early half of the twentieth century as it has been past about the sixties. Though the Anon between our posts may have a solid point that carries far more weight if true.

>>35174287
>22lr is unreliable for taking medium game
>when .22 is one of the favorite rounds of poachers

>>35174349
wow, wonder why nearly every country stopped issuing it after one war...

except the italians who totes weren't into relatively anemic cartridges...

>>35174287
>he doesn't open carry a cavalry charge

>>35177647
Drug addiction in the industrialized world peaked around the turn of the 20th century. It was actually much more common than than at any point since.

You had hundreds of thousands of civil war veterans in the US who'd been given opium for battlefield surgery, and you had heroin and cocaine being sold freely on an industrial scale.

Nobody was understood these new drugs, or the effects that they had on society, and most people weren't even aware of the danger of addiction.

Hell, a lot of people were prescribed cocaine to treat heroin addiction.

It got so bad that England had to institute a problem in the 30s where people would be prescribed heroin to treat addiction. Almost all of the people in the program were doctors who had tried the medicine, which is why the government couldn't just lock them up.

>>35174803
Patrician taste

>>35177647
>Though the Anon between our posts may have a solid point that carries far more weight if true.
Everything but the semi rimmed part was just conjecture. I really like my .32 but I wouldn't really trust it in most situations to be sufficient.
Never heard of anyone getting killed by a .32 but I suppose a few of those ring of fire guns must of got a couple people here or there given how prolific they were.

>>35174287
>>When it was used as the primary pistol round of most countries in WWI

That`s how we know is unreliable OP.

>>35179489
Doesn't .32acp have a really good kill rate? Every 10mm/revolver thread the survival rate of calibers gets posted and I distinctly remember .32acp is higher than most others (supposedly due to older, better shooters preferring mouseguns).

>>35180989
It's just silly numbers someone tried to collect. Statistics can be misleading. If someone had like a .32 they're going to probably not pull it till they're really close, where as someone with a 9 or something might be a few yards away. It doesn't take into account how much harder it'd be to hit something vital at that range, or if there is decent hospital nearby or if anyone even called for help and stuff. Plus who knows how or where they even got their statistics from or when it could of been stuff from starting at the 50's and just adding modern rounds in as time went on. Statistics can be misleading to make whatever point people want to make with them. Statistically I'd think the fact that hardly anyone carries .32 might be a give away though.

File: ~lovely2ndAmndBait.jpg (162KB, 564x960px) Image search: [Google]

162KB, 564x960px

>>35175161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51clP7JRqv8

>>35180989

That's the one wherw one shot stops make .22 look like a badass.

Incomplete stats. The same study has rounds that completely fail to stop an attacker and there we see a definitive chasm in ability between the .22, .25 acp, .32, and the .380 and the "service pistol" calibers of .38 on up.

>>35174317
>1 ounce .7 inch ball of lead

Yeah, surely that wouldn't completely fuck your shit up. Dumb faget.

>>35175977
Fucking lmao. Russian slavshit quality..