What went wrong?

>>35170427
Pickett's charge

>>35170427

Accountants.

>>35170427
The Commies won WW2.

It took 3 generations to "fix" the zero shift.
1x has a narrower exit pupil and tighter eyebox than 4x.
External adjustments.
It rattles itself to pieces on machine guns.

>>35170427
Good, but not better enough over a normal AR15 to justify the cost.

>>35170427
Uh.. they put a nigger trannie in the ad?

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>>35170444
Trips of truth. The South will rise again.

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>>35170427
The price of the gun isn't anywhere near the cost to manufacture it. It's fucking dumb. But people keep buying em so they never get cheaper.

and before you call me a poorfag, I'll let you know that I'm not. I'm just not a retard with my money. I'm not gonna buy a meme rifle for 3k when I could get a brand new set of PVS-14's for the same price

Friends don't let friends buy scars

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>>35170487
ar-10s are better and lighter anyway

>>35170487
>all that text in order to justify his poorfaggotry
>friends don't let friends
You have poorfag friends too

>>35170458

Even if you had the perfect rifle that's better than the AR15 in every way for half the price... it can't compete with a $0 AR.

SOCOM always had the option of getting M4s and M16s for "free" from the Army. It was only after the new administration's slashed their budget by 15% that SOCOM broke the contract.

>>35170487

Of course you let your friends buy SCARs. It means that they're cheaper after you tell them it's shit and offer to take it off their hands for a lower price.

>>35170427
Cool gun, but I'd rather buy an MR762 just to be that much more of a douchebag.

>>35170427
Aren't they still selling these?

>>35172701

If the archives were working you'd see he makes one of these every week with the same subject.

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>>35170427
>$3,000 price tag

>>35170427
How many times do you need to make this thread?
>>35170457
I agree with that fucking x1, shits narrow as hell, other than that, I haven't seen many problems, just a complaint about the stock here and there.

>>35170427
Those fucking nails

>>35170487
I want the communists to leave.

>>35170866
Please find me an AR 10 that's as light, accurate, and reliable as a Scar for less money. I'll order it tonight.

>>35172909
This isn't 2011 where every AR10 on the market minus the unobtanium dpms ones are shit. If you're not willing to do a modicum of research to buy or build your own then you don't deserve any help from me or anyone else.

>>35170460
That's the wife of the CEO or something.

>>35170427
The price tag

>>35172927
Well aren't you a pile of shit, instead of trying to prove his point wrong, you're just gonna sit there in your shithole and whine.
>>35170866
You also spend more money to get there, A lot more money, 2k+ full upper is a start.

>>35170427
>$40 mags

I have no problem paying for quality but there's no way a magazine costs $40 fucking dollars

>>35173193
Lol have u seen HK maritime mags?

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it was a plastic gun that did exactly what plastic guns do

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>>35173193

http://shop.knightarmco.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=KM98036-1

$95 for the factory SR-25 magazine, and this is a reduced price. There are still sites listing them at $110.

The only reason people shill their AR10 varaint nowadays is because Magpul made a reliable alternative for cheaper.

https://us.hkwebshop.com/Magazines

How would you like to pay $70 for a 10 round AR magazine or $50+ for pistol mags?

http://store.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757846_-1_757839_757837_image

It's not like HK is alone for selling $40 magazines. Pistols that don't use Glock or 1911 magazines tend to trend around that $40 mark from the factory.

Oh wait, here's and S&W M&P10 10 round 7.62 mag for less than $40!

http://store.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815092_-1_758016_757846_757837_ProductDisplayErrorView_N

$38's a good price for you right?

Have we decided that it's bad because the British are going to adopt it?

>>35172909
Savage MSR10 Hunter

>>35174343
>the British are going to adopt it
source

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>>35170427
>burgers crying about 3k
At least we can get MR308s for 2.5k.

>>35173177
>A lot more money, 2k+ full upper is a start
bullshit

>>35174802
FN Herstal bought Manroy and they've been producing the M2, M240 and M249 for them along with replacement 5.56 barrels. There's a thread in the archive about the SA80 with at least realistic info.

>>35172909
build your own

>>35174834
For a nice one thats comparable to the SCARs, hell yes you are.

>>35176829
Savage MSR10 Hunter

>>35176836
>savage being comparable
I know for a fact that its not as accurate as a SCAR.
Even their bolt actions suck, I own a .308 from them.

>>35173177
>A lot more money, 2k+ full upper is a start.
I have an AR-10 that shoots .6 MOA so far and I didn't even spend 1800 on the whole rifle. That's with a custom Krieger barrel, too.

>>35176976
What do you have on the barrel besides whats base?

>>35176976
You should go through some sort of rifle course to test durability.

I've always read that AR 10s don't compare to their 15 counterparts in reliability. Is there truth to that still or has technology caught up to the platform and cartridge?

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>>35173193
I have several rifles and handguns where mags cost well over $100.

I want to build an AR10, what companies have the best recievers?

>>35177007
I have the Krieger M110 barrel profile, SLR free float handguards, clamp on SLR adjustable gas block, (not really necessary for adjustment but I plan on suppressing later and clamp on will be better for accuracy supposedly.) Surefire 7.62 3/4" thread SR-25 MB, Aero BCG/bolt, Mega upper/lower, Geiselle AR DMR weight trigger, Hogue grip, A2 stock (just swapped it out for a Magpul PRS), and Primary Arms 4-14 ACSS HUD DMR with their basic one piece single point scope mount (guess where the budget ran out?).

I'm planning on getting really nice glass and mount, but I wanted to start off cheap with that so I can decide what features to look for in a nicer scope. It seems I don't quite need one for ideal condition bench shooting. I'm still doing load development. I was doing ladder tests with round robin groups using sets of 3 bullets each .3 grains of powder different from each other and got 3 different .6 MOA groups despite the variability of the loads. It may even have further potential.

>>35177071
Everything that takes any kind of wear/force is beefed up besides the same extractor claw, FCG, and gas system components. The gas system seems like it won't take any extra abuse a standard AR-15 would, the extractor claw, being relatively smaller, could possibly tear rims more easily (just speculating), and FCG pins are probably taking a little extra stress compared to the 15 but then again it was originally designed for the AR-10 anyways so they're likely fine.

The trouble is with things like two different rifle length gas tubes and gas ports (DPMS vs Armalite). I actually had issues with mine until I bought an armalite length rifle gas tube and my short stroking went away. Armalite puts their gas port a little further ahead than DPMS by maybe 2 tenths of an inch which causes a builder to seemingly think they have the right components and a shitty rifle, but really they have wrong components.

cont.

>>35177189
cont.
Krieger specifically makes their barrels to armalite spec in terms of gas port location and you need a properly lengthened gas tube (any gas block is fine) to have the rifle cycle 100%. I had like 50%+ short stroking. It's kind of a bizarre thing since normally you expect the problem to be more binary, but since it's such a minute detail to miss out on it can cause issues like that.

Most other manufacturers go to DPMS gas port specs to my knowledge, but barrel manufacturers are so quick to try and tell you profile, twist rate, finish but never mention gas port size or other gas port considerations. I've bought a 10.5" barrel from aero for an AR-15 build but the barrel had a gas port of .080" which is huge compared to the crane .070" mk18 spec and the .063" carbine spec. It was so overgassed that I had the extractor slipping off every single case after shooting leaving a round sitting in the chamber (not even stuck I just tilted the rifle up and it would slip out!) I used all the way up to H3 buffer but still too much gas! I had to get an o-ring just so the extractor could hold onto the round. Whenever I buy an american made barrel again I'm going to ask about the gas port since they can't ever seem to just stick to the standard stuff. I advise anyone buying anything other than carbine/16"/20" barrels on AR-15's to do their homework and ask about the gas port before you buy since Aero didn't understand I knew more about diagnosing this issue than their rep does.

I think they may need to be cleaned more often, too. My rifle was slowing down on cycling with powder fouling at least with 4064 IMR.

>>35177071
tl;dr there isn't a problem. It's that you need to source the right parts and be a discerning curator instead of hoping the manufacturers can do anything other than build components to their own specifications.They just build to their blueprints and you need to go a little extra step and find out compatibility.

>>35170427
Eurofag here. Just curious, why do you buy this? Is it that easy to buy in your country?

>>35172909
>>35173177
>>35176829

.2 lbs heavier but half the price.
https://www.stagarms.com/stag-10s-308-keymod/#ProductSpecsDetail

>>35177177
Aero

>>35177431
Looks good, but haven't shot one would like to know more.
>>35177189
>>35177357
Yours sounds nice, .6 MOA is nice for the pirce.

>>35172927
Lololololol u dumb as fuck.

>>35170427

The heebs who run FN

>>35177466
I still haven't developed a load yet and I still think I have yet to(or I've just begun to) hit copper equilibrium in my bore so I think there even may be a little more performance to squeeze out of it. The current goal is getting to .5 MOA, which I'm inclined to think is possible. When I first started shooting federal gold medal match 175 gr. was giving me as low as .88 MOA or so while my handloads were anywhere from .8 MOA at best to like 1.5-2MOA on high end depending on load. Now my handloads are .6 MOA to 1.5 tops depending on the load. I've got about 250 rounds through it with only one powder type and I don't clean the barrel between shooting to maintain copper equilibrium. There's a lot of factors I've been improving and hope to further refine as well including stuff as minute as proper sandbag employment (you need a really tall one for my gun at least.) This is my first precision rifle and I just got into reloading, so there's a lot for me to learn as well.

>>35170427
Anything it can do, everything else can do as well but cheaper. Should've stuck with the FNC design.

>>35170427
Where'd you find that picture of Squid

>>35177578
Try 165gr if you havent yet.

>>35177746
I'll try those out next. I'm trying to stick to 175 for now since my scope's BDC is calibrated for 175 and the federal 175 did so well to start off with.

>>35177589
SCAR was designed by a committee. I agree, a more modern fnc would be optimal.

>>35177868
The committee being socom?

>>35170427
Its not an MR308

>>35172927
>Mega ambi receiver kit $600ish after transfer fees etc
> BA .308 Barrel $280
> stock of your choice
> Handguard of your choice, ($300) for non shit
> Muzzle device of your choice
>LPK. (not sure on pricing for AR10 or if its compatible with the lower)
>BCG approx. $200
money saved can be used for an optic. Probably missing a few things but whatever

>>35170427
Too expensive. Other than that its a fantastic rifle.

>>35176976
>I have an AR-10 that shoots .6 MOA
can i see some proof