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>>35158406
I love my CZ 75BD. My opinion alone should influence your choice

>>35158450
isnt the CZ decocker terrible?

last I held one i had to turn the decocker almost a full 180 to have it actuate.

>>35158479
I operate mine right at the first joint of my thumb. It ain't bad for me

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>>35158450
Ignore this anon. CZs are associated with homosexual bumfondling at a 95% confidence interval.
Get the spaghetti blaster, you know you want to.

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*blocks ur path*

>>35158406
Buy two Hi-Points.

>>35158585
>>35158532
>Slavs and Wops think they can best John Moses Browning
laughable

>>35158406
>a good durable steel frame gun.

CZ's have to have various springs replaced in small round count intervals, Berettas don't and they are stupid reliable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue8_uN0OIVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glXg6erRgtA&t

>>35158564
>Italian spachetti blaster user accusing czechy breeki of being bumfondlers

I sense projection.

>>35158603
Just because your armorer did maintenance for you in the service doesn't mean the 92fs doesn't require spring replacements. You need to replace the trigger return spring and recoil spring on a 92fs every 5k rounds.

>>35158674
For comparison, CZ recommends replacing the same components in a CZ75 every 6-7k rounds.

>>35158730
or you could get the Cajun gun works return spring for like 8 bucks and never have to worry about it again (for the most part ymmv)

>>35158532
>>35158585
>>35158602
^They're right, you know.

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>>35158406
I own a 92FS myself that I absolutely enjoy and I don't regret buying. It's a solid option.

HOwever, I've fired a CZ75 SP-01 and I fuckin loved that also. Either one is a good goddamn pick, DESU.

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>>35158406

g17.

>>35158406
The beretta is aluminum framed not steel. That being said beretta any over cz any day of the week

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>>35159422
In all seriousness, I have large hands.

I prefer the flatter front on the beretta grip.
I prefer the CZ's ability to carry cocked and locked.
Beyond that, I don't really have a preference for them. The CZ sp-01 seems like it's better built but the Beretta has a lot of Wilson Combat upgrades and more aftermarket. CZ has some aftermarket too though like Cajun Gun works.

So for me, I ended up keeping the beretta because I preferred the grip shape over the CZ.

>>35159468
Better built? Aren't cz's notorious for rough machining marks?

>>35159748
If you have a gun made before the iron curtain fell, sure. Modern manufactured ones are great.

>>35158406
Shot both back to back. CZ feels "tighter" and the kick is sharper. The Beretta feels more "loose" (and is way fatter), but the kick isn't as sharper and is more "smooth".

>>35158406
Go to your LGS, ask for all three to compare side by side.
Ask if you can dry fire them each once or twice to try the triggers (having first cleared them obviously, and having asked for a safe direction to point them)

Then, figure out which one feels the best in your hand, has the trigger you like most, the best sights, and so on and so forth.
I personally am in love with my Jericho 941 railless.
Does that mean you'd like it?
Probably not; I have oddly shaped hands and sweaty palms, which mean I need a lot of grip to hold onto a pistol.
The sights are shit but the ergos and controlls are excellent and that is why I prefer mine.

Nobody can tell you what handgun fits you best until you go and pick on up and finger duck it until you know you want to finger-marry it.
>see what I did there?
>also, a gun will never charge alimony.
Sexy CZ-75 btw.

>>35158406
I carried a Sig P226 for a couple years. fucking loved that gun. I could shoot out to 100yrds and hit center mass. Only real problem I had was with new manufactured Sig mags. I bought the gun used as a LEO trade in with two older mags.

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>>35159375
>weapon made by Czechs
>not committed to wiping out commies

>>35158406
CZs the only one of those that is all steel
id say sig > berreta > cz in terms of build quality
you might prefer the cz over the other 2 cause ergonomics
you cant go wrong with sig except your wallet will hurt
berettas a solid middleground choice though it is bulky

>>35160082
They sold shit and made shit for the soviets for years with no issues if anything the cz was used against democracy more than any other full size wonder 9 out there

Also yes Czechs are Slavs so the guns are made by sub humans anyway

>>35159873
>Only real problem I had was with new manufactured Sig mags.

Have you ever used the Mec Gars?

>>35160323
And Italians were fascists that played host to Mussolini. Your own logic obliterated Beretta as well.

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How about Steyr? I've been eyeing their m9a1 for a while, it has some interesting sights.

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>>35158406
One of us
One of us
One of us...

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Always bet on seezee OP :^3

Also here's oc

>>35160396
>implying I would defend pasta shit
Sig is the only true answer

The fact that every even decently funded police force and government agency in Europe and the US uses them should be proof enough of that

>>35159468
If you want to carry cocked and locked, Taurus makes a Beretta clone that can do that. Downside, obviously, is that it's a semiauto made by Taurus.

>>35160082
>a gun made in Czechoslovakia in 1975
>not communist

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>>35158406
>I don't have a problem CCW a fullsize
>CCW an m9
my nigga, I like you

>>35161230
I carry one. Functions 100% of the time and was inly 200$ so no big deal if i have to use it and it gets taken.

>>35160594
They're supposed to be pretty good. I went to a store and really like they way it felt in my hand because it's shaped so you get a very high grip on it. I shot it at the rental range, though, and didn't really care for it. Just my experience.

>>35158406
>CZ, Sig, or Beretta

None of those guns have steel frames.

>>35163216
*My mistake, several CZ's do have steel frames. And like 2 uncommon Beretta guns do as well.

>>35163216
>>35163226
Most CZs have steel frames.
Which berettas have steel frames?

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>>35158532
I got a surplus Hi Power for my first handgun. I carry a Glock 19 right now (partially because I care about it less than the browning) but it's still probably my favorite handgun. It points so naturally and just slips in the hand. Racking the slide is a pain in the ass (probably because of the 32lb hammer spring) but w/e

It's also considerably smaller than most "full size" guns and still gives you 14 rounds on tap.

If you can find one for a decent price go for it.

>>35158406
Hi Power

>>35163358
Mec gar makes 15 rounds flush fit mags. That brings it to 16 rounds, which is on par with modern double stacks.
I have a FEG Hungarian clone and I love it. You have to remove the mag disconnect though.
Idk where you're getting such a heavy slide. Mine racks easy as shit. Could be cause of how worn it is, but it functions flawlessly.

>>35163358
>FEG

That's probably why. Mine is an FN manufactured in 1991. The MK IIIs had a 32lb hammer spring because portugal had some cheap ass ammo that needed it. Or maybe mine just sucks. Idk but once the slide hits the hammer it hits a wall and it takes a lot of force to get it to go the rest of the way.

>>35163388
I'm guessing you meant to reply to me >>35163379
I'd like to get an old FN one. They're a lot more than the FEG though. I think I got mine for about $200ish.

Jericho 941

>>35158406

Literally whatever you prefer the feel of in your hand between those options in 9mm. They're all great.

Shilling now, you might look into a browning highpower too, I believe it would be the easiest to conceal between those and mec-gear makes the best mags and 15 round flush fit magazines for half the cost of original browning mags. Its the height of a glock 19 with the same capacity but is longer. Length is easier to conceal than height and I appreciate the longer sight radius

>>35158406
Italian made Beretta 92FS

>>35158532
this... don't be plebian, get a patrician pistol

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Muh 92s!

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>>35158406

I say beretta.

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>>35169827
this is now a Beretta thread

>>35158406
Sig P226 from W. Germany only

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>>35169853
kek, expensive shit man.

If you buy anything other than a Beretta you're a faggot. 92FS for life

>>35159847
>>35164307
objectively the best choice
israelified czechnology that feels like sex in the hand

>>35169838

What comp is that and how is it?

beretta

>>35158406
>the beretta 92
>the only wonder nine that makes the 1 kilo cz 75 look sleek and slim

>>35158532
Patrician choice, I want a hi-power for a first gun myself. I really want one in nickel plating but the only ones I can find are the centennial editions that have that gaudy gold trigger which ruins the whole look.

>>35158406
Budget?

>>35160654
>>35158564
I hope the variety of 92fs owners in this thread were enough to convince you to join the CZ75 master race. (The compact is great, too, if you find the full frame a little bulky for carry. It's rough finding one, though)

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>>35159748
>>35159807
My CZ SP-01 was made in 2016 and had some slightly rough tooling marks but only on non-bearing surfaces on the inside (i.e. places where they didn't matter except looks or whatever).
My CZ 455 FS had rough surfaces on the flats on bottom of the bolt, which was very noticable when operating the bolt. Was perfect after a touch of sanding but kinda not cool.
Personally I'm not bothered by these issues, if the SP-01 had any rough spots they wouldn't have mattered because I went at the rails and a few other bits with polish and a wool wheel regardless when I was swapping the springs out.

>>35158564
that filename tho

Is there any reason to use a beretta92 over a 90two?

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>>35163265
The Stock, Combat, Fusion, and a few other Berettas have steel frames. You may want to try to track down a Vertec or m9a3 if you want a slim grip. The m9a1 and 92a2 have a nice radius reduction for the thumb. It changes the feel quite a bit from the legacy 92 guns.

Do what works for you. I CC my Vertec. 18+1 feels pretty comfy. Pay attention to all the guys mentioning MecGar. No matter if you have a 226, Hi-Power, CZ, or Beretta, check into those mags.
>>35173658
Holster availability is a big one.

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>>35158406
As someone who shot all three:
226>Beretta>CZ
But they are all pretty damn good.

>>35158406
Beretta 91 is a gr8 weapon that can be found cheap through police trade-in sites. Usually around $300

Alternatively, if you can find one for ultra cheap, the Taurus (inb4 >implying Taurus) PT92 AF is an extremely good Beretta 91 clone (and by "clone", I mean they literally bought Beretta's Brazil facility where the 92 was manufactured at one time, along with the machinery, blueprints, and trained workers' contracts)

The Taurus actually has several advantages over the Berettas of the same year, such as frame mounted safety, decocker (now featured on the Beretta) and even more piss-easy breakdown, at the cost of sacrificing Beretta's stellar fit and finish, and a rather bad stock magazine.

If you can find the Taurus very cheap, ( I got mine from a pawn shop for about $190, including 2 aftermarket magazines and a case) I recommend it, otherwise, go for a police trade in Beretta.

>>35174034
>Beretta 91
brain, why u do dis?
92

>>35163200
Where the fuck did you find a store that stocks them? I don't think any of my LGSs have even heard of the Steyr, let alone have them.