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Kalashnikov’s New AMB-17 Silenced Assault Rifle at ARMY 2017
On display at the recent Russian Army 2017 expo was Kalashnikov’s new AM-17 and AMB-17 compact assault rifles. The AM-17 is a 5.45x39mm caliber improved version of the MA assault rifle introduced last year, designed to fill the same role as the AKS-74U compact assault rifle/personal defense weapon. The AMB-17 is an integrally suppressed variant of the same, firing the 9x39mm dedicated subsonic round first introduced with the AS Val and VSS Vintorez in the 1980s. Pictures of the new rifles have been posted on various social media outlets, such as TFB contributor and small arms expert Max Popenker’s blog.
The introduction of the AMB-17 in the 9x39mm caliber seems to imply that it will complement or replace the Kalashnikov AK-9 in the company’s lineup, in direct competition against Tula’s more successful AS Val, VSS Vintorez, and SR-3 rifles in the same caliber. Likewise, the AM-17 is likely intended by Kalashnikov to replace the Tula-made AKS-74U in Russian service.
The degree of interest on the part of the Russian government in the new AM-17 and AMB-17 rifles is yet unknown, but the weapons do seem to be strong contenders for modernization of the roles currently filled by the AKS-74U and VSS/AS platforms. A lightweight rifle with modern controls and accessory mounting provisions, that is common between both the compact assault rifle and silenced assault rifle roles sounds like an attractive upgrade.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3rw79V-vng
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dope rifle
my new Arsenal SAM7SF
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>polymer receiver
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>>35152383
>AKS-74U
AMB 17 is replacing the "AS Vall" and "VSS Vintorez"
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>>35152408
>replacing
I doubt it
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>>35152399
>SAM7SF
>Bulgarian
What are you doing dude?
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>>35152383
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>>35152408
he talking about the 5.45 AM-17 you idiot
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>>35152383
>>35152467
They couldn't afford the AN-94, or the AK-12, what makes you think they can afford an AM-17?
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>>35152491
>or the AK-12
which AK-12?
this gun or the one with AK-74 receiver?
replacing this gun with the AK-400 is purely KC decision not the Russia MOD
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>>35152491
an94 is used in special forces. Too complicated for recruits
Purchased 3000 AK-12 and AK-15 for testing.
I read in rus 2ch
AK 15/17 / A-545 for contract troops and special forces. Modernization of AK-74M AK-74M3 up for recruits
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>>35152573
white man :3
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>>35152440
T. Poorfag cluching WASR that is out of headspace
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>>35152491
>couldn't afford the AN-94
Dude, have you even seen that thing disassembled? I had HEARD it was complex, but holy shit that thing was utterly impractical, particularly if you anticipate ever having to field strip it in the field without access to an armory. watch the damn forgotten weapons video, because holy shit, I wouldn't adopt that rifle if I was a paid shill paid specifically to sdopt that thing.
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Lift the sanction Donnie
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>>35152587
+1
what he said
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>>35152383
What's the point of the 9x39?
I mean the bullet weight is what, 250 grains?
Why have a sub sonic round in 357 when you can have one in 308 using the same weights except one has a much higher ballistic coefficient and can penetrate more armor.
I'd rather have a sub sonic 250 grain 308 than a sub sonic 250 grain 357.
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I thought integral suppression was a no-no?
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>>35152738
9x39 heavy subsonic bullet, slowly losing energy in the process of motion. With a good transition to subsonic and minimum noise
AMB-17 is designed for a distance of 300-400m being a replacement for the silent "ASS VAL".
In 308 more gunpowder and it is much louder and weighs more
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Does the safety lever on an AK go up, or down before the gun will fire?
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>>35152841
Top position: safe
Middle position(on select fire AKs): full auto
Bottom position: semi auto
Some AKs have additional fire modes like burst, and use an AR style selector on the left side. Mostly on newer AKs though.
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>>35153019
Poland have thumb fire mode selector in 1970.
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>>35152738
>Subsonic .308 is better than subsonic .37 because subsonic .308 can penetrate armor better.
Are you retarded, or did I just fall for bait?
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>>35153311
he is right
theoretically a 250 grain 308 have a higher Sectional Density than a 250 grain .37
the problem is a 250 gain 380 mostly make of lead or brass while 250 grain .37 make out of steel
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>>35152745
Explain
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>>35153227
That's not Polish, that's zastava shooter
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>>35153227
>Google images reverse search: 0 results
>TinEye search: 0 results
S-spooky, anon. Where'd you get that picture?
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>>35152643
never going to happen and you'd be crazy to think otherwise. theres no way hes going to do anything that will so blatantly benefit both russian AND evil gun owners.
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>>35154582
from a Japanese deactived gun site that i forgot the name
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>>35152573
>an94 is used in special forces.
Is it though? They cart them out for victory day parades and they gave a few of them to rebels in Ukraine, but Ive never seen evidence of it being used post 2000 by people who have the luxury of choice.
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>>35152383
Ah, the revolutionary and soon to be standardized AMB-17? Of course we will use the AN-94 as a replacement! It is only inevitable a rifle like the AK-15 would come along! The AK-12 is a truly revolutionary system! Only the AK-107 will be our national rifle! As you can see the AEK-971 will be the true king!
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>>35152383
> Silenced
Gun looks good desu but that triggers me
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>>35152383
>Russia's showing off their newest rifle
>while displaying it with a burgerfat sight
Don't Russia have holographic sight of their own?
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>>35154717
yes
but the SpecOps guy like Eotech
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>>35152383
>Kalashnikov's
You say that like he's not dead.
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Wait I'm confused, so what is the name of that thing ?
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>>35154759
the 5.45 gun is AM-17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJdTz94k3g
the 9x39 is AMB-17
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>>35152738
>What's the point of the 9x39?
Penetration of 6B2 body armor from 400 meters with steel core subsonic ammo.
>you can have one in 308 using the same weights except one has a much higher ballistic coefficient and can penetrate more armor.
No. Steel core of such length is impossible in .308, too long to stabilize.
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>>35154598
>Japanese gun site
You mean Japanese airsoft, right? Japanese gun enthusiasts are a myth.
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>>35155171
>deactivated
Why omit the key word just to be obtuse? For what purpose?
Non-functioning guns are a boom industry in Japan.
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