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I see a lot of refurb SKSs at work and took some pics of the mosf fucked up looking ones. I'll share.

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>>35140358
I'd love to get my hands on a Tula sks. I've got a weird kink for Tula guns for some reason.

>Unironicaly liking shitty and obsolete garbage

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>>35140422
Same anon with the finn capture m91 that I got for a good deal. I was looking at my m39 and it didn't have a date on the receiver tang and was curious if someone could Id the marking. It's a circle P so I think it's a chatellerault.

>>35140422
That's pretty easy, the hard one to get is an Izhevsk since they were only made for about 16 months between 1953&4.

As someone who had owned quite a few SKSs I'm really not sure why Americans are willing to pay $400-$900 for them... They're really not THAT great especially when you can get an ok AR-15 for around that.

When I was buying them a couple years ago for $120-$220cdn they were good value for money.

t. Leaf

>>35140571
They're super expensive for what they are, I got my yugo for pretty cheap. The Svt-40's are ridiculous down here, I paid $1,200 for it and it was worth every penny. Love that gun!

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>no sks

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>>35140687
I too lack an SKS

Think i could trade my Savage Enfield for an Enfield enfield?

I really want a true brit rifle and have no sense of worth for this US PROPERTY

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Mae without glasses.... I am intrigued.

Oh, and I took new Lebel pictures.

>>35142124
You could have both.

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>>35142155
I tried to encourage my rifles to make babies. Thus far nothing.

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>>35142154

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>>35142221

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R8 My 'surp lads

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>>35142253
Good start. Needs a Mauser of some sort though.

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>phone flip despite posting from from laptop.

>>35142270
Yeah that's probably next on my list, I know a good shop that specializes in milsurp, and I can probably get a good deal on a Gew. 98

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>>35142286
That's a nice M44.
>>35142290
Get a Argentine 1909 instead. 7.65 is a better caliber.

>>35142313
I'd Imagine this place would have one, when i went there the dude had at least 8 different types of mauser.

What would make the 7.65 any better by the way, is it just a more fun round to shoot? And how is the availability compared to 8mm?

>>35140687
>>35142000
Cabela's in Lacey, WA has like 15 Yugo's for $500 each

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>>35142459
>$500 each
WEW
E
W

I can get them for that at my local Cabela's but geez that's a little high

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Shot my T38 again yesterday with the new mainspring and re-rounding the tip of the firing pin. Confirmed that it can barely hit the broad side of a barn. Muzzle is too eroded for any consistency.

>>35142253
Good 'surp.

>>35142270
>Needs a Mauser of some sort though.
Your turn towards the Dark side is complete.

>>35142286
Nice Swede.

>>35142290
>I can probably get a good deal on a Gew. 98
Good. Long Mauser is best Mauser.

>>35142313
>7.65 is a better caliber.
It's really not.

>just bought 12 spanish mauser for 1500
This is gonna be fun, I promise I'll only mutilate half of them.

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Also shot my 1916 BSA SMLE Mk.III* yesterday, with much more satisfying results than my T38. I used up the last of my old Brit surplus Mk.VII ball, which produced mediocre accuracy results, but with some older Remington/UMC FMJ it shot quite well, at least better than my 1918 Enfield Mk.III*.

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>>35143114
10 rounds of 30-year-old Remington/UMC 174gr FMJ at 100 yards. Good enough for (British) government work.

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>>35143160
Lee-Enfield's can be surprisingly accurate.
With my 174gr SMK handloads, I've gotten 2.75 to 4 inch groups at 100 yards with my #4.

>>35142154
Missed out on a Lebel Yesterday for $1100, feels bad.

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Damn I love milsurp.

>leaves for job interview

Speaking of surp is it normal to have trouble when trying to load something like a nugget with stripper clips? Because I've got a few clips for my nugget and can only seem to load it with 2 rounds from the clip before the rounds decide they'd rather stay in the clip instead of loading into the nugget.

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>>35142933
Thanks, only two pieces of 'sure I have though, so I need to do some work. I'd like a k98 next. It doesn't even have to be a German one, I'd settle for a Zastava so I don't pay out the ass for 'war eagles.'

>>35143543
I have that issue too. Where'd you get the clips?

>>35143894
>Where'd you get the clips?
[spoiler]Amazon[/spoiler]

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>>35143911
Probably just shit clips. I try to pop one or two rounds in slowly then slam the rest. It seems to help get the clip started.

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>>35143543
I find that clips generally work best with ammo from their nationality of origin. For instance, I had no trouble feeding Brit Mk.VII .303 off my clips into my SMLE, but Remington, PPU, and even South African ball didn't feed nearly so smoothly.

>>35143543
Are you putting the rounds in the clips the "correct" way?

>>35144146
Correct way? Or are you implying I'm putting my rounds in backwards?

>>35144165
Are you staggering the rims?

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>>35142336
>What would make the 7.65 any better by the way, is it just a more fun round to shoot?
Milder recoil.
>>35142933
>Your turn towards the Dark side is complete.
Every collection needs a Mauser. Doesn't make them not mediocre.

>>35144170
>Are you staggering the rims?
Staggering?

>>35144246
1 in front, 1 in back, 1in front, etc.

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>>35144246
Put the rim of the first round under the second, and the rim of the second under the rim of the third and so on

I may be getting my FR8 this week. Supposed to arrive on Wednesday but Irma might have delayed it.

Anybody that owns one have any tips for shooting/maintenance? I already ordered 200 rounds of Malaysian 7.62x51 and 20 Swedish m96 clips. This is my first ever bolt action rifle.

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>>35144392
>Tips for shooting
Practice
>Tips for maintenance
Get some solvent and lube of your choice as well as some patches a 30 cal brush and jag and a one piece cleaning rod. If it's corrosive ammo clean thoroughly after every range trip, including bolt head/face and firing pin. If it's not corrosive then regular cleaning is plenty.

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>>35144392
Treat it like any other milsurp.

I've shot about 250 rounds of the Malaysian surplus through mine. I only had two rounds have the primers be pierced.

Swedish Mauser clips don't work in the FR-8

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>>35144392
>Swedish m96 clips.
Not sure they'll fit in the FR8's charger guide. FWIW 8x57 strippers are cheaper and it has basically the same case head diameter as 7.62NATO.

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>>35140328
First 3 numbers of serial? Did you get yours reblued? Mine is definitely in worse condition :(

>>35144477
Fugg I found them way cheaper than m98 clips which what was recommended to me here. Somebody said they used these for an Ishapore so I figured they would work in an FR8 too.

>>35144469
Is this confirmed? 6.5x55 swedish has a rim diameter of .480 inches and 8mm is .470 inches. Are the clips that much different?

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>>35144765
I own a FR-8 and two Swedish Mausers.

The clip guide cut out in the rear rings are different, and so are the clips themselves.

Swedish clips are much larger.

I have the opportunity to snag a sniper nugget with a repro scope made in germany for $600.

It's in decent condition, should I cop?

I'm not a huge nugget fan and the LOP is shit but I think it would be a fun thing to fix up and shoot.

>>35144806
If you're not a fan of Mosins you're probably not gonna find a sniper one any more fun.

>>35144791
Is 10 brass k98 clips ok for 15 bucks?

>>35144833
http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/m98msrstripperclips5round.aspx

I'm going to advise you to screenshot each page in the purchase process with this company.

I've bough clips from them without issue.
But they did try to scam me on a Russian SKS stock so I wouldn't trust them with any high dollar purchases.

>>35144870
any reason to buy those over these?

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>>35144480
138xxx, and yes it's been reblued. Also it's in 9mm, the barrel was hacked off and replaced. I was a little wary of that but the gun store owner said it was done really well. Who ever did these did them pretty well. Unfortunately the safety lever has worn out causing it to flop around so I'll order a new one soon. I picked it up a few years ago for $900 plus it even came with a matching stock. Unrelated but if someone could Identify the manufacturer of the mosin in this post I'd really appreciate it.
>>35140561

>>35144917
I bought my C96 for $900 also. Original WWI wartime commercial, all matching serials. 350XXX. Chambered in .30 mauser, which can be a pain sometimes.

>>35144944
Honestly I wish mine was in .30 mauser. It still has the mag follower for it and the 9mm is a little shorter so sometimes it jams but for a 100 + year old gun what do you expect lol

>>35144973
Yeah they're a puzzle box that happens to shoot bullets. For an 100+ year old gun though, the rifling is still excellent, so with a proper cleaning here and there it fires really well without jamming.

>>35144889
They're more expensive

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Holy fuck I am bored... I should just take the day off and go home. At least at home I can fondle my guns and think about mounting them to the walls finally.

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>>35140358
>>35140380
>>35140405
No Izhevsks?

Got a Yugo capture K98 in the mail yesterday, still in the cosmoline, gonna start cleaning it up tonight. Luckily tomorrow's supposed to be 90+ degrees, good day to sweat the shit out of the stock.

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>tfw there's only one milsurp gun I really want
>tfw they come up for sale at affordable prices often enough to tease me but not often enough to successfully buy one

Did anyone here win that M34 Berthier from last night?

>>35145425
I took the day off and I'm bored as fuck fondling my guns.

My MAS 36 was supposed to get to my FFL today but shipping got delayed. Fuck me.

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>>35145479
Nope. It got too fucking high for me.

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>>35145479
>>35145502
However I wish I had bid on this No1. It went much lower than typical.

>>35145502
My max was $1600 only because the shop that was selling it is only 30 minutes from me so no shipping or FFL fees, but sales tax.

>>35145510
I can't roll the dice on buying something from him. It's a shame too because he always has shit I want. Like the Lebel he has right now.

>>35142933
Consider drilling/ putting in a barrel insert if you want to shoot it but value the historical nature of it.

If the gun is a beater, just rebarrel it in a more common caliber.

>>35142253
86/11 or a 1911?

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>>35145905
It has the stock splice so probably 86/11

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>>35145510
>It went much lower than typical.
Because it's got Mk.III handguards.
>>35145556
>Consider drilling/ putting in a barrel insert if you want to shoot it but value the historical nature of it.
It just needs to be counter-bored and re-crowned.
>just rebarrel it in a more common caliber.
Where do you think we are?

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>>35145982
*96/11 phone postin is hard

>>35145905
Yeah, as the other annon said it's a 96/11

>>35145999
>Because it's got Mk.III handguards
Good catch, I didn't even look.

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>>35146082
The devil is in the details.

>>35146605
The handguard for the No1 is the best part too. For shame....

>Mosin
>nice rifle design
>RIMLOCK

wew

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>>35147942

Got these lammys for $120 in a local store, bought all 3

>>35148433

The mosin doesn't suffer from Rimlock in any fashion, thats what the interrupter is for, it hold the next round waiting to be fed low enough for the round to be chambered to pass right above it.

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>>35148433
Unless your interrupter is broken you're not gonna get rimlock on a Mosin.

>>35148466
Continued,


the Arsenal refurbished rifles aren't really refurbished, thats a bad term, what they are in entirely new guns from several other guns all cobbled together to make a functioning rifle.
after the war the russians took all the excess mosins and stripped them down to their individual components, they broke them down as far as they would go, tossed all the parts in a piles of components, then used the parts to assemble a new rifle that was stamped with a new serial number.

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>>35148433
Rimlock isn't hard to avoid if you're not pants on head retarded
>>35148439

>>35148489
None of the refurbs are in any way shape or form have parts that were part of the same rifle during the war, this misfit of parts is why 8/10 the interrupter doesnt work.

Your stock is a new stock, the bolt is a bolt from rifle A. the cocking piece is from rifle B, the bolt body is from rifle C, the magazine is from rifle D, the barrel might be new or from rifle E. and doesn't match the receiver,ect

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>>35148454
That's a pretty good haul friendo
>>35147942

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>>35148541

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Phone posting because I'm in Denver and want stripped 'surp.

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>>35148688
Stripped 'surp.

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>>35148688
I'm always phone postin

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>>35148733
Same here.

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>all the lebels are ridiculously expensive and only one or two pop up on gunbroker per month

this is depressing as all hell

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Ammo can is the Malaysian L2A2 Ball. Great ammo my FAL loves it.

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Yugo Capture Mod 98. Quite the shooter like the other one. Cleaning rod came bent but its not an issue, bayonet still fits.

>>35148775
how expensive are we talking about ?

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>>35148853
1200+ usually.

Glad I got mine when I did.

>>35148853
damn near all of them I have seen so far sell for 1-1.2 grand

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>>35146914
I tend to perfer mine without stars as well...

>>35148891
>>35148900
hahaha

welcome to france, now suffer with me

>>35140328
I own so much surplus I want to get a plastic thing

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>>35149094
I'm just glad I got one, regardless of how many stars it has. Nb4 poo rifle

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>>35149094
Fuck you.

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Have a chance at getting hi-power practical, $700. Worth it?

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>>35148775
The R35 carbines go for less than $800

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>>35149454
I have two poo rifles. They're actually pretty gewd.

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>>35149665
Mine has a pristine bore and shoots extremely well, even with forties cordite loaded surplus. It came with a broken spring though, luckily Midway caries the wolf replacement ones for cheap

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>>35149500
Ahh but she was carried through gallipoli and the arabian campaign a hundred years ago, who would want such junk...

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>>35149500
Also, dank get.

>>35148541
These are the smoothest mosin actions i've ever felt too, 2 1943's and a 1942, whats weird is they don't have the typical rough machining marks, but they are lightly stamped in the markings department, but the blueing is also some of the nicest I've seen.

>>35149748
Don't make me suck your dick for that rifle.

>>35149634

yeah right now my policy is to go for only full length rifles and not the cut downs. for some reason the long rifles just look cooler than the carbines for me.

>>35149126

please tell your government to stop burning Mas 49s and to send us Famas kits. I will suck French cock for French guns.

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>>35149814
Because they are sexier.

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>>35149704
The poos still make an Enfield also
http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/5.htm

If i was an importer i would so do a batch of these. Maybe i should start a milsurp business.

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>>35149835
>New production Sporter 8mm Enfields.
I'm sickened but curious

>>35149823
Seconded

>>35149814
>>35149824
Carbines are far sexier, plus more recoil.

>>35149899
Did you know your handguard is broken?

>>35149899
>being triggered that a brand new gun is produced in a different caliber
Milspergs everyone

>>35149835
It's a good thing your not in the importation business because importing a Indian made rifle in 8x50mmR Mannlicher is a recipe for a disaster.

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>>35150173
Yeah, but it's an even break that's level all the way across. I've seen others with a similar missing piece so whateves

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>>35150466
I'm not triggered though I think it's a neat idea just in a weird choice of caliber

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Give me a reason to not buy a TT33 so my Mosina has a small companion. I was looking at some Romanian ones.

>>35150513
It's a hold over from when the British were still in charge of India. They didn't want Indian civilians to be able to own guns in military calibers and they figured out that an enfield in 8x50mmR was easy to make. They've been made since the 30s

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Is a Steyr m1912 with holster and 150 rounds worth $750?

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>>35150550
Neat. You learn something every day

If anyone is into C96 Mausers, someone just listed a bunch of choice ones on Gunbroker.

>>35149835
Good luck convincing the Indians to sell. They won't even sell the .303 or .380/200 they still make in massive quantity

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>>35150532

>>35150481
>indian caliber laws totally apply for export guns

You can custom order things you dum dum

>>35150929
I seriously doubt people want an Indian made Enfield nigger rigged to a modern caliber when they could go buy a Savage Axis with an adjustable trigger and scope for 350 bucks

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>>35144973
This is my other mauser, a 1942 HSc made for the Wehrmacht. Comfy af.

>>35150701
>That fucking afterthought safety
I mean the things you live with, right?

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>>35150959
And yet bubba still exists.

And yet people really wanted the AIA receivers

And yet people like buying neat things

And yet a niche of people don't like things because they're cheap disposable garbage.

And yet everything else from India is better made than chink shit and still the same price.


To better phrase your response

"I don't want an Enfield Curry rigged to a modern (would be .303 for import)(.314 isn't even a modern caliber anyway) when I could go buy a savage with my mcdonalds slave wage"

>>35151027
I owned an Ishapore MkIII for awhile. Finding .303b was a little annoying, but damn if it wasn't a fantastic shooter...

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>>35150991
oooh, that thing is nice!
>>35151027 I happen to like my curry made Enfield

>>35151027
Just because some people want things doesn't mean its a practical business decision to give them said thing. AIA went out of business for a reason. And Indian quality control is hilariously bad even compared to Chinese

>>35151027
Sorry bud but AIA went out of business because not enough people wanted their guns. Understand some basic principles of business before accusing others of working at McDonald's.

>>35151118
The thing about the ishapore factory is that all quality control was itself controlled by British overseers.

>>35151118
Perhaps. But why not try even if you sit on them for a few. I doubt the same arsenal making every other weapon for india would have abysmal qc worse then century.

The barreled receivers alone would sell, especially if they're cheaper than milsurp for bubbas.

Companies today are pussies and would rather make 100+ ar15s than try something different.

>>35151158
The factory making the IOF .315 is NOT Ishapore. And even if it was the British have not been in India for 70 years
>>35151173
SAMCO went out of business because they couildn't even sell Turkish 12 Gauge shotguns. These guns would almost certainly be more expensive than milsurp or things like the Axis. There isn't a big enough market for these guns for it to be practical especially when you consider the most well known Indian firearm is the INSAS.

>>35150562
Yes.

>>35151173
>Companies today are pussies and would rather make 100+ ar15s than try something different.
Then make a Kickstarter and see how many donors you can get for your new idea.

>>35151286
Thank you sir

>>35151173
>I doubt the same arsenal making every other weapon for india would have abysmal qc worse then century
Wew, whats it like living under a rock?

>>35140328
Best Milsurp shops in FL by county?

>>35151277

Oh I thought you guys were talking about Ishapore enfields.

>>35143477

get some original clips, I have a couple and its amazing the difference it makes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Original-WW2-Russian-Soviet-Mosin-Nagant-7-62x54r-Stripper-clips-91-30-M44-M38-/263167712572?hash=item3d46049d3c:g:vLEAAOSwVRpZoLwq

>>35150562
HOLY SHIT YES.

GET IT NOW BEFORE THE BF1 CROWD TURNS 21.

>>35140328
that's either airsoft or $7000. I'm guessing airsoft.

I have a shitty beat up C96 but I actually shoot it, which is just how I like it.

>>35151538

Too late :^)

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>>35150562
I got mine for $150 but with only 8 rounds and no holster.

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>>35151582
it's real

>>35152276
This is the sort of deal that makes me angry.

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>>35152281
Damn. How much did that cost you?

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Mmmmm Tokalicious

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>>35153614
$900, Like I said in (>>35144917) I need to do some work to it. Surprised more people didn't ask about my auto nugget in this post (>>35140422)

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>>35153309

>>35142154
How has the shooting experience been with it?

>>35153829
The Lebel? Its one of the most fun guns I own. Very accurate too. The magazine is old though and doesn't work with the best reliability, but for a 128 year old rifle I suppose that's to be expected.

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>>35153799
The reason I like South American mausers is the crest diversity

>>35143419
>1100
You did yourself a fucking favor. That's way too much. There's one up on GB right now for 720 which is about the average.

It's being sold by the infamous carpetjew and it has no bore pics so it could be fucked. Externals look alright tho.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691280765

Who here spends NEETbux on milsurp? It makes me feels smug as fuck but I also feel like a deadbeat.

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>>35152276
Fucking hell
Was it from an ignorant pawn shop owner?

>>35155097
Where the fuck does this guy get all these guns from

>>35149784
Not gun related but I like your bed comforter. Where did you get it?

>>35155149
He is likely a retired baby boomer that Jews people on GB for extra cash

>tfw bought two guns last week and gun fever is setting in already

>>35148433
>>35148466
>>35148489
>>35148498
>>35148503
Rimlock won't happen in a Mosin. The interrupter will prevent it and even if does happen, the backside of the rim of the cartridges is chamfered to allow the rim of the cartridge to slip off of one another.

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g..guys I just can't stop buying Swiss surp... Please help ease my affliction by sharing your own!

Soon hopefully I shall complete my collection of their smokeless rifles and move on to the Vetterlis and the rest of the handguns.

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>>35155370

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>>35155530
This pics awful but it's the only one I have left of the K31 that I haven't posted

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I'm just happy that interview I had yesterday is over. I should hear from them sometime this week so fingers crossed.

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>>35155699
Good luck buddy.
>>35155628
Damn my K31 looks good.

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My little brother has a Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 he is letting me keep while he's off at college. Want pictures?

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>>35155957
YES IT WOULD CALM MY URGES

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$225 Yugo Capture K98. Had to clean cosmoline off everything.

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>>35156018
Here you go buddy.

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My dad got it for him about 3 years go at a gun show in KC for $300 I think.

>>35156305
It sure looks like a 1911 stock not a 96/11, which range does the serial number fall into?

>>35155133
Pawn shops don't care about how much something is worn when they're selling it. They care how much money they've got in it. Some methhead probably pawned that gun for $50 just so he could get high. This is why I frequent pawnshops near areas hit hard by meth.

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I think it was made in 1917. Any Swiss collectors here can correct me If I am wrong.

>>35156400
Yes, it's 1917 production but it's a proper 1911 Long Rifle not a conversion 96/11.

Looks like a nice rifle, thanks for sharing :)

>>35156400
I should add that it was inspected by Major Muhlemann when it was made and that it was later privatized (taken home by a Swiss soldier) after 1964.

Have you checked under the butt plate yet?

>>35156503
No, let me go get it again, I'll check it right now.

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Nope, nothing in here.

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>>35156041
Fucking iphones.

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Does anyone take their milsurp innawoods? My M44 is my woods gun when I go exploring.

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>>35157008
shit picture but here's my Yugo capture. No joke I accidentally found them on J&G sales a few years ago. They were in the "gunsmith special" and supposedly had cracked stocks. I paid $150 for it and much to my surprise the stock was not cracked.

>>35157096
Nice. I remember J&G selling them a few years ago, but I was a novice in milsurps then so I never grabbed one. What kind of shape is yours in? Mine has some pitting around the receiver under the stock and some on the barrel, but nothing serious. Bore is great except for somebody very minimal frosting in a couple spots.

>>35157150
The stock is pretty rough but still solid. I dunno what it is about yugo captures where they rub the finish off of the rifles but the finish is gone above the stock line. It was packed full of cosmoline and is actually in really good shape under the stock line. She's a good shooter with a pretty decent bore, I could get some good accuracy out of it with old Turkish surplus ammo.

>>35142336
I saw a damn near perfect Argentinian Mauser at a shop for $400. They probably still have it, is that a reasonable price?

>>35157589
Shit. I meant to ask>>35142313
Not >>35142336

>>35143894
I got an RC k98k and it is pretty beat to shit. Probably had something to do with being on the eastern front (who would've guessed?). I would recommend an M48 if you can find a nice one, makes more sense to get a rifle that's basically a K98 that might be unissued rather than try to find a decent German one

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Is it safe to dry fire my arisaka? I like to practice with it.

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>>35142270

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>>35149094
ill take this opportunity to be a dick.

>>35157724
No

Also what does dry firing practice?

>>35144715
I think they should work, but I don't have any experience using them for an FR8

>>35157724
I don't think it should be a problem. Most guns are pretty good except .22s and some handguns. I dryfire mine after I'm done playing with it and close the bolt.

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>>35157724
>Is it safe to dry fire my arisaka?
It's fine.

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What the fuck is going on? This is a $200 gun.

>>35157589
1891 or 1909?

If it has a crest and a good bore get it, haggle though. Meaning offer him an amount under what he's asking, not "What's the lowest you'll go?" .

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>>35157841
>hes never done dime drills
civi-puke detected

>>35158133
>200
Ive never seen a Carcano carbine priced above $150 in Missouri

someone is drunk bidding or just won the lottery

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>>35158133
>any average carcano going for more than an overpriced Mosin

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>>35157589
most of them are perfect. they didnt get used.

listen to >>35158149
point out everything wrong with the gun and then offer $350.

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>>35158201
>they didnt get used.
Carbines got used a lot more; my 1909 carbine has about half the rifling left compared to my infantry rifle; the (mis-matched) stock has 4 arsenal repairs on it. Somewhere I have a picture of Argentine border guards from 1961 still using M91 carbines.

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>>35158228
I have a 91 carbine thats in better shape than my long rifle.

I still need a 1909 though.

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Can anybody identify what kind of Mauser this is? The seller is listing it as an AZ from 1916 with a straight bolt, but it clearly doesn't look like an AZ, more like one of the Turk post-war rebuilds.

Also, how much should I expect to pay for a 1916 Berthier 5-shot long rifle?

So im gonna buy a 1916 all matching luger which is in decent shape and made in berlin (new slightly longer barrel to meet laws)

$1800, but they are rare here, only the artillery lugers are usually allowed here, as the normal luger barrels are too short.

Saw an artillery luger sell for $2500 a year or two ago, so I think its a good deal?

>>35157806
Don't make me suck your dick either. >>35157589
400 is ok but not great.>>35158380
>Also, how much should I expect to pay for a 1916 Berthier 5-shot long rifle?
These days? $500. It's gotten a bit ridiculous.

>>35158133
Unless it was the gun used to kill Kennedy I dunno how it would go over $200

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>>35158380
Looks like a 98a, just been modified by shortening the forearm to set the bayonet lug back, barrel bands replaced with Gew.98 bands and springs, and fitted with sling swivels. Probably done by Turkey.

>>35158425
The item description does mention Oswald

>>35158442
I can see it now, Boomer tax with Huur Duurr same gun used by Oswald, blah blah own a piece of history blah blah School book depository, grassy knoll.

>>35158478
It started at a reasonable price ($300) considering it looks really good. But God damn, someone must want it bad. All their other stuff is reasonably priced.

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>>35158442
>The item description does mention Oswald
It's Ape Law; can't sell an M91/38 without invoking the patron saint of 6.5x52.

>>35158399
For a ruined luger that seems very expensive. ww1 dated lugers usually go for less than ww2 ones here, if you really want one go for it otherwise might I suggest an unfucked Swiss luger instead?

Artillery lugers are a totally different ball game when it comes to price and collectible. A 1916 luger like yours but unfucked that's all matching would sell at auction for about $850-$1100 even though it's a 12(6).

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>>35158515
the anon that posted that is in canada.

different price market on lugers up there

>>35158399
1800 US or 1800 CAD? prob not a bad deal

luger master race is always worth it

>>35158723
I'm aware of that thanks, I'm also in Canada. The part of my post mentioning 12(6) should make that a little obvious.

>>35158758
oh, i thought you were just having a stroke and typo'd that

>>35157806
Dick status granted

>>35158723
1800 cad yeah

>>35158515
Problem is, lugers are prohib. You need to have a 110mm barrel to make it legal not the original 105mm.

I might try to talk him down a bit but it seems like an ok deal as to how rare they are up here

>>35158515
I've been to auctions, prohibited pistols go for far less because no one has a prohibited license. I've literally seen handguns being sold for $80. There might be 1 or 2 guys in the crowd of a 100 who can legally buy them

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>>35158427
Yea that's what I figured, definitely an interesting rifle. I've always liked the Turkish rifles, really neat what they did with some of them.

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>>35158380
I have one of those too.

its in a correct stock now

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>>35159080
today

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>>35159080
>>35159100
now if only i could find a nose cap for my bubba'd Kar 88, then I could have a new stock made for it.

>>35159122
I would say try the WTB on Gunboards but it looks like you already tried that. Seems like it would be something that would be more common, but I guess not unfortunately. Good luck, I'd love to see it restored back to normal.

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For shits and giggles here's the pic of the barrel work done on my c96 that's in these posts. you can kinda see the line around the barrel where they've cut it and re barreled it.
>>35140328
>>35152281

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>>35159278
yea, i routinely sink more $$$ than guns are worth to restore them.

damn you bubba, i will undo your evil legacy

currently I am restoring a 1903a3, unfortunately my afghani'd berdan II cannot be saved

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I am very happy with this.

muh nugget

>>35159453
What happened to that stock

>>35159515
Not sure. It came that way. Adds some character, I think, and old rifle with its dents and dings.

>>35159539
That's not what he's talking about. It's oddly red for a Finn.

>>35159754
Oh. Yeah, I have no clue about that either. Sorry.

is 600 a good price for an arisaka. it has the chrysanthemum and all.

pls i just want to larp grorious banzai

>>35159911
No

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>>35159853
You sure someone didn't shellac it

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Most are 1943, minus a 38 tula and 39 Izzy, but I'm more of a shooter and hoarder I like to say vs a collector, the top was refinished by me with shellac as I got it for $100 a few years ago and it was painted black.

My restoration project. Post war rework, duffle cut missing handguard.

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>>35160214
What the fuck 4chins

>>35160223
Define restoration

>>35160239
Fix duffle cut, replace handguard. That's it, finish is a solid 80%

>>35160214
I gotta fix the duffle cut on my Belgian. Gotta find that shit Mark uses.

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>>35160140
Not bad.

>>35160246
https://www.amazon.com/Brownell-Brownells-Acraglas-Bedding-081-003-002/dp/B0000AVEH7

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>>35160267
Thank you buddy.

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>>35160287
Did you ever fix the ejector on that Mauser you were talking about a few threads ago?

>>35160310
Same mauser and no, not yet.

>>35157234
Interesting. Yeah the blueing under the stock is fine on mine, too. It still looks cool AF with no finish though.

>>35160223
805 bren?
HNNNNNNNNNG

>be super autistic about guns history
>"restore" duffle cuts
Wew

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>35160788
>Wewing for (you)s in one of the slowest threads on a slow board
Hardy har har.

>>35160164
The listing says it was reconditioned at the arsenal, but I'm not sure what that means.

I got offered a Lebel revolver with two boxes of ammo and a bag of brass for $500, deal?

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>>35161760
Colonel Lebel had nothing to do with the Modèle 1892 revolver. He honestly had little to do with the 1886 rifle too, but he at least helped design the cartridge for it.

>>35161760
>>35161890
Oh, and it's also a good price if you ask me.

>>35161983
Seconded

>>35140687
>>35142000
Well do anyone really need anything other than some prime Mauser?

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>>35163678
A Mannlicher is always needed.

>>35163690
Where is good place to find long männlicher? I can only ever seem to find the stützen

>>35163899
Hunting around forums and Gunbroker. Patience is key though.

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>>35163899
They aren't as common, so like billy said, patience is important when hunting for rarer guns.

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>>35164294
Or you trade a Remington 710 and $50 for one back when that's all you had to spend on 'surp.

>>35166559
Holy fuck, I paid $115 maple bux for one of those 3 years ago and my friends laughed at me for getting gyp'd...

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>>35166559
What the fuck

>>35166559
Someone has to be trolling or shill bidding. There is no other explanation.

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>>35140328

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>>35166850
There's no end in sight

>>35166875
Carl Gustaf's or Husqy?

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>>35166875
Thinking about buying a m/96-based Husqvarna Model 640 in 8x57IS for a hunting rifle. I love the look of an old-school Mauser sporter, have a ton of 8x57 already and it will probably be my first foray into reloading.

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>>35167556
That price holy shit

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>>35166875
Swede posting is best posting

>>35167879
I've got a Swede bayonet does that count?

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>>35167891
I don't have one, so it counts.

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Since it was overcast and I was bored, fresh new type 99 pics incoming

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>>35167944

>>35140465
>Not knowing how to reply to a post

>>35158515
if you're in the US you will not find an all matching 1916 luger in any decent shape for under a grand

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>>35167955

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>>35167994

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>>35167879
Best Mauser

>>35167985
For fuck sake both me and the guy I replied to are Canadian.

>>35168241
That's not a P14!

Did lebels swing back down again?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691280765

This would have been 1-2k a week or two ago.

>>35140328
So I saw a CZ captured K98K on armslist for $400, its in pretty rough shape but looks good enough. Is that a good price?

>>35168619
Wait a few minutes it'll get there

>>35168619
lebels are meme guns that are artifically inflated value wise by battlefield

>>35142487
Got one for $450 but mine is a M48 not a M48A or M48B. The inside was real pretty too, no pitting or rust.

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>>35168619
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691280765

>mfw I put a 950 bid on it as a joke since I expected people to bid through the roof
>mfw no one else is bidding

>>35169232
spoke too soon?

>>35169265

oh thank god I am willing to wait for the crash or a mismatched one

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>>35169232
you better be shit posting

Do people Type I Carcano's have proper Arisaka bore diameters or Carcano bore diameters?

>>35169404
both pleb diameters. dont worry about them

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>>35169306

Limit reached. New bread.

>>35169139
I paid $250 for my M48. That anon was talking about Yugo SKS s

>>35169404
They do not have the gain rifling that the Carcanos have.

>>35169958
Don't arisakas have polygonal rifling?

>>35170016
Yes, but I beleive it's just standard cut rifling in the Type Is. Lemme look in muh books.

Someone who isn't phone posting make a new thread

>>35170353
fuck you don't tell me what to do

>>35170353
New thread here, no need to thank me lads
>>35170546

>>35169958
He asked about diameter retard