This is the Norinco QBZ-97

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>>35123834
Well, at least it's not a L85.

Looks alright. What one would expect from a service rifle that was made to equip millions of troops.
And as Jesus said, they have updated the ergonomics in the later iterations.

Hope they do a mud test next.

That said, the recoil buffer system looks quite interesting.

>>35123834
Its cheap, retains cool bullpup aesthetics, and has an interesting operation method. I've always been jealous of you leafs being able to dick with them instead of us burgers. I've always thought the QBZ rifles looked really exotic.

Hopefully, our sanctions on Norinco can be lifted someday and you guys will get 30 round mags.

Its nice to hold and carry, feels well made, especially compared to other Norinco firearms, but the trigger travels for miles before firing.
I feel like the mass of the striker block moving around affects accuracy, but its probably just that I'm a shit shot.

Its also a very 90s gun, no accessory rails or anything, and since I don't live in Canada theres no aftermarket here, had to hack up a dovetail to weaver adapter to fit the strange proprietary scope rail.

>>35124109
They tried to sell some serious dakka to gangs in the US, Norinco ban will probably never be lifted.

i still want a QBZ though, at least to rent at a range

>>35123834
Be neat if they got their hands on a QBU-88, there's little video on it apart from all the video game rubbish.

So why don't they update the 97s to the 95-1 features?

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>>35123834

>>35124181
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>>35124199
what's with the dolphin penis on its head?

>>35123834
its objectively better than the yankee gun in Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising

wheres the ian part?

>>35124204
kek I think it's a personified front post

>>35124135
>QBU-88
They are fucking rare as hell even in Canada but we did get at least one shipment of them.

My childhood friend served in the PLA for probably 4 years, he used the original Type 95 and 95-1, he said the quality was alright and pretty light, and that's about it

>>35123834
its better than the INSAS :^)

>>35123834
that is a FAMAS G2

>>35124204
I know ampho AKs have cat features, maybe Chinese rifles have Oni-like horns?

>>35123834
It's not made by jews

>>35124109
Is there a reason we can't just manufacture clones in America? Not enough demand?

>>35123834

gook gun

nothing nice to say

>>35125688
Because knowing how well American manufacturing is at producing foreign designs, it will somehow be worse than its chinese made counterpart.

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>>35124204
Digital Oni

>>35123834
It's the best option for a sub-$2000 5.56 rifle we Canadians have (if you don't count 5.56 versions of the VZ)

>>35123834
It works.

>>35125533
No, you're wrong. The QBZ has nothing to do with kalashnikovs at all. It's a short stroke gas piston system and is a completely indigenous design. Combloc firearms are based off the regional animals of each nation's countries. Lots of those "cats" you see are actually foxes or some wild feline (74 is more of a fox, RPK is a Siberian Tiger, 47 appears to be some kind of lynx due to her ears). The Norinco Bullpup AK and Saiga shotgun, are a domestic cats though.

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>>35124204
>not liking cute girls with horns

Wow I knew there was an abundance of homosexuals here but damn son

>china
>oni
???? no pandas ??

>>35123834
Aesthetically pleasing.

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>>35124204
There's always the GF version if you prefer
.

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>>35126888
Nah.

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a e s t h e t i c

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still not as cool as their integrally suppressed 7.62x25 smg

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latest version

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>>35127339

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Other Chinese FTU upgrades for the 95-1.

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Short carbine version is my favorite, tho.

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>>35127391

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Linear hammer system.

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more carbine

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>>35125886
What is SVD then?

>>35123834
It's cheap, looks neat, and I would like to play around with one if I could get it in the US. Would be better if it had the safety by the grip like the military version, but it's not like I'll be able to shoot one anyway.

>>35127444
Animal ears was never really consistent. From what I can tell, if the gun's chambered in a Commie caliber, then she'll have cat ears, but that's not a rule.

>>35127349
Why is he squinting his eyes are already squinted enough?

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>>35124143
Because export isnt a priority.

But there are after market upgrades that add the pistol grip safety.

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>>35126888
THICK BULLPUP TITS

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I like this better. Wish gun jesus would give one some of his stickly love.

>>35123834
Its not the ugliest bullpup I've seen....

>>35123834
i have one. its fine

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>>35127544
If you think you can design a bullpup with a worse selector switch positioning than the QBZ, look no further than the Groza

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>>35127580

Hey it's just a retarded AK. If it wasn't for subsonic ammunition variant it would be useless.

>>35127597
No offense. I really like the idea of heavy hitting 9x39mm munitions.

The only real way to make subsonic rounds that do not suck, really.

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>>35127580
This girl for me.

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>>35127622
...

>>35127444
SVD a cute, duh.

>>35127349
How ironic, Ian said in the video about how the rifle does have a rail for an optic but its a Chiense proprietary one and how their government had no need to follow the US/EU standardize rail and yet in this photo you can see its a picatinny rail.

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>>35128055
The late 90s and early 2000s, the PLA brass was still very different than today.

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>>35128055
They make flat-top versions with picatinny rails now, and have for a couple years.

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Too bad that the Chinese do not export their propetriary optics.

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>>35130012
their red-dot might be meh-tier, but at least it is suppossedly very rugged.

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>>35130023

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>>35130027

>>35123834

Voted Trump into office hoping he'd do some actual shit for gun owners and lift the Norinco bans so us burgers could get our hands on some chink bullpups and dirt cheap Type 56 AKs.

Fuck that orange nigger.

>>35130146
Hasn't been long enough to get started I guess real presidency. Didbt act like a liberal that expects everything handed to them right away.

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>>35130146
>expected the guy whose entire platform was isolationism and trade protectionism to lift import restrictions

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>>35130196

a few months short of a year... for a 4 ear term, that's almost 25%, if you were contracted to do a 4 month job and you said "Ive only been here 1 month, how can you expect me to do something" then im sure you would find yourself out of a job mighty quick

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>>35130292
is that a M4

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>>35130146
Voting for Donald "Make America and America manufacturing great again and start a trade war with China" Trump in hopes he would get rid of an economically minor trade embargo that would only damage American business.

Did you even listen to what he was actually saying?

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>>35130319
this is an M4

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>>35130012
I had a carry handle T97 with the proprietary YMA optic for a while. From my experiences with it, it was really only good for the novelty. The QR mount was crap, so the mount kept falling off. The reticle was neat, but way too small and easy to lose in any background clutter. It also felt quite flimsy. If I got another T97, I would replace it with an ACOG.

As for the gun, was a good little bullpup. Decent trigger for a bullpup, way too short LOP for a tall guy, but a fun little plinker.

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>>35130440
Interesting. I didnt know that they exported the YMA.

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>>35130454
the redicle...

yeah, it looks pretty small.

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>>35130468
But really... so fucking 80s.

>>35130440
>Decent trigger for a bullpup
even if it doesn't have a break

I mean how could you gloss over that, you pull and pull, the gun makes a click sound, but there's nothing telling your finger where the click happens, either before or after.

It's not a bad trigger, it's just an incomprehensible trigger.

>>35130516
>an incomprehensible trigger.
aka a bad trigger

>>35124204
It's a unicorn.

>>35125833
kill yourself futashit

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>>35124199
this makes me feel like none other

>>35128055
that's actually for a night sight, not an optic

>>35130234
Politics is different from a construction job friendo. I was never the biggest fan of the Donald, but he's clearly playing the long game here. The DACA stuff, the debt deal, it's genius. He let the mainstream media and the demoshits build up this whole narrative about what he's going to do, and now he's making them look like absolute fools by not doing it. Once he finishes destroying his opposition, things will start happening.

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>>35130146
>Fuck that orange nigger.

>>35127391
>Chinese service rifle captured by Indian Troops. Doklam Plateau, 2017

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>>35123834
I wonder why the Chinese don't import the Type 79.

>>35131389
To Canada or the US? Canada I don't know, other than that the RCMP basically has unlimited authority to ban whatever guns they want. But in the US they can't, thanks to Johnson, Reagan and H.W. Bush.

>>35131389
Look like its based on an AK so thats a no go up here

>>35124204
The horn is like the front sight post when the carry handle is part of the rear sight alignment.

>>35130196
>Hasn't been long enough to get started I guess real presidency.
All your changes get pushed forward in the first 150 days. After that, it's trying to get them passed. Trump will be one of the most ineffective presidents in history, and it's because of retards like you who drank all the fucking koolaid and didn't pay enough attention in school.

>>35131342
>but he's clearly playing the long game here. The DACA stuff, the debt deal, it's genius
you're fucking delusional.

He's going after the low hanging fruits and betraying his own party because he got his faced kicked in before.

You have to be really fucking stupid to think anything he does even borders on competent.

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>>35131618
>AK-esque features will get you banned

By that logic the Remington Model 8 is banned in Canada.

is it...?

>>35131750
Ah, so you're a crusty old Republicunt. Fuck your party, they're a pack of liars and hypocrites who have done nothing but grow the government and kowtow to the neoprogressive agenda. They're also why the NRA sucks donkey dick and doesn't do shit but play defense.

He doesn't give a shit about the Republicans. They don't have a choice. He's more interested in playing the Democraps like a fiddle, which he's done pretty successfully so far. Granted that's as much on the sheer incompetence of the Dems as on him, but he's at least exploiting the situation correctly. He's systematically destroying the credibility of the democrats and putting them in an unwinnable situation where they either do what he's now saying he wants, and thereby admit that they've been lying through their teeth this whole time, or they betray their own platform just to spite him, in which case they have to deal with the Bernie Bros splitting the Dem ticket even further and giving the Republicans a huge advantage in the midterms and in 2020.

Now, I'm not saying I agree with everything he's doing. I don't think the debt deal is worth it, and I was never that much of a fan in the first place. I voted for Aleppo Man, and have no love lost for either major party. But he's not the complete moron you're making him out to be, and you underestimate him at your peril. Look how that worked out for Shillary.

>>35131815
Playing
the
Democrats?

Ok, whatever you say, dude.

>>35131841
translation: I have no argument

>>35131850
Played them on healthcare.

Played them on tax reform

Sure showed them in Charlottesville, didn't he? "Some mighty fine people marching there"

Hey, retreat into self delusion, I really don't care,

>>35132162
>Played them on healthcare.
That was intended to make idiot establishment republicans like yourself look like incompetent fools, and it worked. Paul Ryan and McCain will probably lose their when they come up for reelection, unless the GOP replaces them with candidates who will work with the president.

>Played them on tax reform
That is far from over yet.

>Sure showed them in Charlottesville, didn't he? "Some mighty fine people marching there"
He did, though. He got them spinning their wheels and making themselves look like hysterical idiots for weeks over that line, instead of paying attention to what he was actually doing.

>>35132162
""You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides"
If you're going to insult someone, do it correctly, you uninspired libtard.

>>35124120
You could probably just have some Canuck accessories shipped over.

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>>35123834
That thing is disgusting

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>>35124084
>What one would expect from a service rifle that was made to equip millions of troops.

>>35124181
>>35124187
>>35124191
>>35124199
What the actual fuck, it's like /ak/ but Chinese and measurably worse

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DID SOMEONE SAY FUCK BULLPUPS!!!
BECAUSE FUCK BULLPUPS

>>35131004
Those're traps, dumbass.

>>35123834
I hate China and the Chinese. Is it acceptable to like this weapon regardless?
It's aesthetic as fuck.

expect it to freeze up in abt 50 shots.

>>35125830
This. The fact that we can't make a decent AK, even in the $900 range (see the DDI 100% US made stuff with the shitty extractors breaking in under 500 rounds) is really disappointing.

>>35127404
Also known as a striker. Lel

>>35131725

Whatever you say, Obama.

>>35131388
>colorized

>>35133794
A striker hits a primer.
A hammer hits a firing pin which hits a primer.

>>35127597
That's how I imagined Cyberpunk 2020's AKR-20 would look like (minus the carry handle).

>>35130319
Silly. It's a Brazilian soldier armed with a FN G36C.

>mfw I realized that ATF importation forms don't come with any fees or taxes
>us dollar is strong as hell compared to CAD right now
>you can put the Canadian importer as the manufacturer on the paperwork
>the Canucks have a very interesting aftermarket for this thing
Tempted. Very tempted.

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>>35134153
Canada is now domestically manufacturing VZ58's and there are some AR-180's (with aluminum receivers, pic related) being worked on.

>>35134153

Explain further. Can I purchase evil Chinese guns and ship them to my local FFL if I list the manufacturer as the Canadian importer? Is that even legal?

>>35124574
Loooooool, no. India kick chinaw butt. Fuck china praise modi.

>>35134455
I'm not sure of the absolute specifics regarding exactly where to ship an imported firearm, though I know anons have gone through the process before (Eg. Unica anon) but yes, you can import single examples of firearms like that with the proper ATF paperwork and proper coordination with the distributor. What you're going to want to do is fill out the form (essentially, a Form 4 without the stamp) and then call the distributor and say "I am a US citizen and I would like to import a Type 97 rifle to the United States, and I have the proper paperwork and clearance from the BATFE to do so and can provide you with a copy on your request." Once the paperwork comes back from the ATF with the okay (remember, list the importer as the manufacturer, nobody is going to inspect the rifle), go ahead and convert your $690USD into Canadian funnymoney and purchase the rifle. You will then go through the process of shipping it to your FFL, the specifics of which I am not familiar with. Enjoy your cheap bullpup, anon!

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>>35130349
Are you autistic? Thats obviously a FAMAS.

>>35134455
>>35134566
Purchasing a firearm in Canada requires a Possession and Acquisition License. That means taking a trip to Canada to take a weekend firearm safety course (or two on consecutive days if you want a Restricted Possession and Acquisition License which allows for handguns), all of which will cost you about 300 maple pesos all said and done. You'll need to get a statement from your local police department that you aren't a crime-anal when sending in your application, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxY5fDn5sjQ

>>35134566
>remember, list the importer as the manufacturer, nobody is going to inspect the rifle
Ah, but see, now you're lying on a BATF form..

>>35134386
i'll trade you a CA banned gun for an aluminum AR180.

>>35134689
They aren't manufacturing full AR-180's just yet. Just replacement parts.
Also, I'm not going to break the law just for an AK or a G3.

>>35134679
To be honest even if you put Norinco on it I don't think they're going to deny you.

That said, there are examples in the US already. This means one of two things. a) They walked across the border illegally or b) an import form was filled out and approved.
>>35134678
I wonder if this applies to purchases made outside of Canada itself. It's probably a good idea for someone to go ahead and call the RCMP and ask. That said, Unica anon didn't have to go through Italian resident processes to acquire his Meatba so I assume you may not have to get the requisite resident licenses. Again, check with the RCMP.

>>35133914

>2017
>Colorizing

Literally 2dumb2meme

>>35133720
>those aren't men pretending to be women, they're men pretending to be women
return to Tumblr

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>>35123834
(((They))) say this one is actually a better gun.
Most gweilos don't know......

https://youtu.be/0dx049chmIg

>>35133789
The problem with the AK is that it's a stamped gun. Stamped guns cost a shitload to tool up for, because you have to make new dies for every change or adjustment to the design. Once you have the tooling, they're cheap, but you need to then either produce a massive shitload or cheap out on the other parts in order to offset the cost of tooling up.

>>35125833
Oh fuck off.
Can you stop bring up your degeneracy for once.....

>>35134960
>not the ZH-05 variant

>>35134976
I never understood why anyone would hate gays until I encountered futa and trapfags. They are easily the most obnoxious group on this site.

>>35134965
Not just that, but every other step as well is an outdated manufacturing process requiring heavy tools and at least semiskilled labor and is super easy to fuck up. On the AR literally every part is secured either by threads or a push pin.

>>35134987
It annoys me how much people here utterly fail to take context into account. They just swallow simplistic, reductive fuddlore and regurgitate it mindlessly.
>hurr durr AK is cheap
>hurr durr AR is expensive
Manufacturing almost always is more important than specific design in terms of the end cost of a firearm to the consumer.

>>35134960
Sounds like 700-800 rpm. Quite a bit more than the basic QBZ-95

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>>35131777

Shut the fuck up before you get my Model 8 banned.

In all seriousness though, the official line is AK or AK variants. But, like others have said, the RCMP has the power to interpret the firearms act in any way they like without oversight. Thus why stuff that just looks like an AK can and has been banned. Pic related.

>>35126617
Jarv canon =/= Eggplant man canon
>>35127444
A regional species of fox in russia (Also a cute)

>>35123834
>ian doesn't know that about a dozen of those optics ended up in canada.
is jesus slipping?

>>35134566
>>35134678
>>35134709
Someone make a guide with pictures for those of us who are slow on the uptake. I would kill for a QBZ anything since I'm a Chinaboo (have a BA in moonspeak). I was really excited about the possibility of the 12ga version coming to the US, but it looks like that kind of fell through after PSA bought out DDI.

>>35127532
Wouldn't bullpups be small to modest tits, but a big ass? I mean, light in the front, heavy in the back.

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>>35137167
>95-1 got heavier and thiccer (thiccer heavy barrel, improved polymer and alloys) than her export-oriented sister.

well, it does make sense.

>>35130319
H&K P90c in 10mm Auto.

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>>35137167
This man has never seen an Elle

>>35137218
Well, Elle is just fat. L85 weight almost 5kg.

The QBZ weights like 3.2kg.

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>>35137276
Do not bully the Elle! You know she's sensitive about her weight.

>>35137167
In the Upotte!! universe, bust size correlates to the firearm's weight, and the ass or panties correlate to the buttstock.

>>35124181
cringe

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>>35137335
set yourself on fire my dude

>>35134566
This is what I found from the ATF's website:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-licensee-who-does-not-have-importer%E2%80%99s-license-make-occasional-importation

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/form-6-part-1-application-and-permit-importation-firearms-ammunition-and/download

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/form-6a-release-and-receipt-imported-firearms-ammunition-and-implements-war-atf/download

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>>35137356
man, buying into the whole gun girl thing kinda makes Ian a creepy sex pervert, doesn't it

>>35137356
Well that was fast

>>35137539
he did review it pretty recently

>>35137421
Ian is just a clean doctor doing an innocent video on the anatomy of rifle specimens

>>35137395
Seems to correlate to what >>35134566 said, except if you don't go through a distributor, you would have to physically purchase the firearm in Canada, then bring it across the US border, and present that second form to the border patrol officer, and hope he's having a good day.

Seems a lot easier to try to go through an FFL and their distributor, but I'm guessing most would laugh you out of the shop if you asked for help importing anything Norinco without that first form pre-approved by the ATF.

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>>35124181
>>35124187
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>>35124199
this had better be an actual fucking ad for the gun

>>35123834
looks like chinkshit.

>>35132474

Clean lines, a crisp font and overall rather informative. I like it.

>>35124181
>>35124187
>>35124191
>>35124199
I wanna fuck her

>>35130146
>Trump
>Lifting ban on chinese firearms

Kek

>>35137356
Please tell me there are more of these?

>>35139372
sadly not that I'm aware of

>>35134960
the bullpup form is only for manlets and women, ofc the unbullpupped qbz would be better

>>35139330
We can only pray he'll use it as leverage for getting China to cooperate with us on Best Korea.

>>35140277
Why would he care? As soon as republican politicians get elected they stop giving a shit about guns. They'll talk it up to get elected but once they have your vote there's no reason for them to do anything about it

>>35139372
>>35139558
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64573724
Nah, but I do have the artist who made it.

>>35131389
holy shit thats the right mix of a high tech low tech aesthetic

>>35131777
>logic
thats were yore wrong kiddo

>>35125833
why go to all the work to draw that, then make it airsoft?

>>35142663
because sodomites

>>35123834
A guy here I know got one, and its fucking junk.

Something is wrong with the trigger or sear because one pull will fire off 2-3 rounds, quite obviously supposed to be single shot and always jams since it doesn't extract the 2nd/3rd rounds. To actually fire semi you need to pull and hold the trigger. One guy manage to fire all 5 rounds in a single pull.

The manufacturing is shitty too. I was watch the action slide forward, and the way it feeds is that it will push the bullet into the metal wall surrounding the chamber, and the force of the action will push the bullet head up and to the left so that the head scratches the metal until it seats. Alot of misfires happened simply because the bullet would get jammed in the casing and not fire.

hunk of shit tbqh