Unpopular opinions

>>35118141
Liking Glock is babys first week of hasguns.

>>35118141
I wouldn't call that unpopular - more like common sense.

>>35118154
You'd be surprised how many normies don't like them. They're ugly and a lot of people want something that's their own special snowflake. Plus a lot of people still want a safety.

I've helped a lot of people pick out handguns and very few want a Glock at first.

>Muh safety
>Muh steel frame
>Muh surplus
>Muh fuddyfive
>Muh cowboy shooter

Glocks are just too boring for most new shooters who are seeking some form of novelty.

>>35118193
i dont want a glock to blow up in my hands dickhead

>>35118211
Yup you've still got some growing up to do.

>>35118141
I think once you become a competent shooter, Glocks can be appreciated for their benefits. (Lightweight, reliable, simple.) You might still not like them, but you won't be edgy, gen X'er about how they're not steel 'n' wood, have the trigger of a barbecue lighter, and how you always shoot them low and left, so obviously that means there's something wrong with the gun.

>>35118154
>>35118187
>>35118211
Tards

>>35118225
>>35118235
>you got growing up to do
How?
I'm just saying, the only pistol I've ever heard of literally exploding in your hand is Glock. Even if its a low chance why should I take that chance?

Glocks are still way too expensive for me to ever dream of buying.

>>35118277
Euro?!

>>35118284
im american

>unpopular opinions
The offensive handgun concept is viable.

TFW people don't understand how great the Glock is from a armory standpoint, along with the AR.

Completely drop-in parts with high QC that are extremely easy to replace is a boon of firearm owners. It's why you have to pour money into a Glock to fuck it up.

>>35118277
I built an AR for $350 and traded it for a G19 with a bunch of freebies. Or there are police trade-ins for $300-400 depending on model.

>>35118260
You need to lurk more, then.

While I dont think that Glock is outright Perfection™, I unironically think they came pretty damn close, considering that the only meaningful difference between a 17 Gen 1 and a Gen 4 are the finger grooves and palm grips. Sure, they beveled some shit off the extractor and trigger bar, but I never noticed the slightest difference performance wise. Not to mention all the hot new polymer pistols people meme about these days (P10, M&P9, PPQ) are literally just sidegrades to a 35 year old design.

Come at me.

>>35118287
Shit man go get a police trade in they're decent not uber expensive.

>>35118277
Fuck, man. Get a better job.

Posting on /pol/ should automatically ban a person's IP from all other boards for 24 hours.

After 24 hours of not posting on /pol/ they may return. Posting /pol/ on other boards gives them a 48 hour ban from all boards.

>>35118301
Gen 4 & 5 have double captive recoil springs to apparently lower recoil.

>>35118141
>Unpopular opinion
The 1911 design is superior to the Glock design

>Unpopular fact
The 1911 is also simpler with fewer parts than a Glock.

>>35118321

They really just soften the way it feels.
Or at least they're supposed to. I've never noticed a difference.

>>35118297
>>35118302
>>35118317
I cant afford $300 on any gun

>>35118330
That's why CAG replaced 1911s with Glocks eh?

>>35118319
fuck off dude, there's literally nothing wrong with posting on /pol/ its just a politically based /x/ with some daily news thrown in
god damn, you're acting like the media back when its "scary 4chan boogeymen"

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>>35118330

>>35118347
Then you can't afford to shoot, anyway.

>>35118362
CAG aren't pistol people. Stop basing your opinions off of what the military uses.

>>35118362
>implying what the military uses is an indication of what is the best

>>35118364
No argument, huh?

>>35118141
I absolutely appreciate Glocks. They're relatively cheap, reliable, and the aftermarket is the stuff of legend. These are good qualities that I'm attracted to (all mirrored in the AR-15, which I own an example of). However, that doesn't mean I need to own one, blind myself to it's flaws, or suffer glockfags.

TL;DR Good gun, but thats all it is

i really want an OD frame for my glock brand glock

>>35118364
>poor people don't deserve second amendment rights
Fuck off liberal

>>35118141
these threads are stupid. your opinions are unpopular because they're just plain wrong

>>35118363
Cry harder pussy.

>>35118277
used glocks are cheap. if you can afford a videogame console you can get a glock

I don't consider myself a glock fag.

But I always loved flocks since I was a little kid growing up in da hood everybody rapped about glocks n owning one.


I had a airsoft glock 17 the most realistic money can buy Tokyo Marui with metal slide.

That's how much I loved glocks

23 years old owned a glock 30s sold it for a glock 19 and now in process of selling da glock 19 for a glock 22 for hd n ccw.


I could give a shit about glock perfection motto I just loved da way dey look compare to da average gun.

>>35118392
If you can't afford the fucking gun, how do you expect to afford the ammo that would allow you to practice enough to become competent? Guns aren't magical, danger-warding talismans. They're tools that require skill and experience to utilize properly.

>>35118392
you dont.

Poor people commit most if not almost all violent crimes including those with guns.

In china if they know youre a problem group they have their fingers on a hair trigger but no in america we have to be politically correct instead of just getting rid of any black mexican and white trash that think they deserve rights, right to own a gun.

Things would be insanely easier if they just said you have to make at least "50k a year to own a gun otherwise fuck off" even then I'm being reasonable because if we raised it to 6 figures/100k a year you would see virtually no violent crime commited with a firearm that wasnt shut the fuck down immediately or any bad rap of the gun community that we usually get from the exact people I'm talking about, specifically white trash, that wave them off in NRA and Alt-Right meetings.

There would be no justification for gun control after that, literally none, just get a fucking job.

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>>35118319
kys you safespace faggot

>>35118289
It kinda is. The average perp isn't running around in armor.

>>35118452
>/pol/
>fun
Kek

>>35118448
>>35118449
>>35118449

Fuck
off
leftists

>>35118469
Cry
more
poorfag

>>35118449
>$50k a year
ah, i see you have also browsed 4chan too long and now have a fucked perspective on yearly salaries

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Reolvers are still relevant in a combat sense.

>>35118476
Fuck off gun grabber

>>35118193
Steel frame is a novelty? Wewlad

>>35118477
thats why I said it was being generous, because the average income of the US is just above that at like 60,000-ish a year

If you dont make that you have issues, issues probably relatable to any other desperate poor criminal and what I just stated is a fairly generous cut off

>and now have a fucked perspective on yearly salaries
no not really, if you make below that and youre butthurt then actually apply yourself or join a field thats worth something, like fucking hell welders can make 50k+ a year, there isnt any excuse to not make at least that in 2017, memes aside.

>>35118469
So poor. So, so poor.

>>35118489
I bet youre the same cancer that thinks taking gun rights away from convicted violent felons is an infringement of your "god given rights"

You people have fucking worms in your brains I swear.

>>35118289
Stop it, even HK abandoned it.

>>35118330
>Glock 17, 42 parts total
>1911 , 49 parts total
I believe the Glock has two more moving parts than the 1911 but is a less complicated design.

>>35118485
They are. 357 will knock even a meth charged Jamal on his ass in a hurry. Even good soft armer still means broken ribs, and thus incapacitation.

Just land your shots.

>>35118521
It is significantly less complicated, from the barrel locking mechanism to fire control. It's also designed in a way that's very tolerant to tolerance stacking.

>>35118141
If it weren't for SBR law barriers to entry pistol caliber carbines like a Scorpion Evo 3 or a PS90 (with original barrel length) would be one of the most common home defense setups.

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>>35118521

The Glock has more parts than that.
Glocks are also much more complicated with a bunch of tiny little springs.

>>35118518
Right, cuz that creates a healthy black market to show goyim that gun control does not work hue hue

32 acp is viable for self defense.

>>35118644
Glocks have... eight (?) springs. Recoil, striker, extractor, FPS, TRS, slide stop, disassembly stop, magazine catch. That can't be much more than a 1911, if at all.

>>35118449
Fuck off shill. The reason more poor people commit crimes is because more niggers happen to be poor. Take out the nigger part of the equation and crime levels would probably be fairly close to one another. I bet you're some sort of a kike banker or something.

>>35118724

1911s have 3.
4 if you count the leaf spring for the grip safety.

>>35118775
And they wear out faster than a 9mm glock.

>>35118775
Recoil, firing pin, plunger, mainspring, extractor, sear, magazine catch, and FPS if Series 80. That's seven or eight, by my count.

>>35118804

Explain what aspect of the design makes a certain spring wear out faster on the 1911.

>>35118812

>Recoil,
yes
>firing pin,
yes
>plunger,
I forgot that one
>mainspring,
Yes
>extractor,
No.
>sear,
Its a leaf spring but sure
>magazine catch,
yes
>and FPS if Series 80. That's seven or eight, by my count.
If

So 5 or 6 vs 8

>>35118849
The internal extractor on a 1911 itself is a spring. If you're just going to discount leaf springs as springs and discount the extractor, then a Glock has 5 springs.

>>35118813
45 is a bigger boolet

>>35118875

No, an extractor is not a spring.
Also, not mentioned is that Glocks have 2 recoil springs, not just one.
Most Glock springs are also finicky little things that can be bent with your hands easily.

>>35118297
>Lurk more

Faggots like you ruin everything they touch. As if pulling the pin on a gernade and hugging it will become a valid opinion, or maybe it will when the only thing you've ever chambered is an echo.

I've owned a Garbagelock, have friends and family in military, worst gun I've ever shot in my life and theirs. You wouldn't even known because shits like you have no life, only other thing you shoot besides garbagelocks is meth. Hope you like knowing you are worse the ever over opinionated gunless virgin here.

Trade that shit for another gun is the only good experience I had with the weapon.

Anyone who wants the "glock experience" should go and squeeze on a plastic tube of tooth paste.

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>>35119211

>>35119211
t.sig salesman

>>35118260

Google 1911/sig/beretta/cz kaboom

Enjoy

>>35119016
>No, an extractor is not a spring.
It works by spring tension of the extractor body itself.

>Also, not mentioned is that Glocks have 2 recoil springs, not just one.
Only the most recent generations, and they're entirely unnecessary. 1911s also have dual RSA setups, which are also entirely unnecessary, if you want to get into it.

>Most Glock springs are also finicky little things that can be bent with your hands easily.
Every spring in every pistol can be bent by hand. That's not exactly a good argument.

>>35118141
True. Inflammatory, OP, but true.

You're still a faggot though.

>>35118141
Appreciating the simplicity of the mechanism and the absurd interchangeability is mature.
Liking them more than other handguns is usually retarded.

>>35118319
Agreed
>>35118452
>>35118363
Hurry up and die for your beliefs

>>35118193
This.
Everyone I know including me has hated Glocks before we owned pistols. Now that we have shot our Sigs/CZs/1911 plenty everyone is considering or already has a glock.

>>35118141
Realizing that most guns are better is the next step
Glocks should be $400 at most

>>35119211
>have friends and family in military

Why do retards say this? Soldiers get to shoot like 1 gun, and rarely, unless they actually have a combat MOS.

>>35119404
People automatically assume milfags to be firearms experts because of hurrliberalmedia.

>>35118506
haha, no.
$40k is fine, $20k is fine
learn to life

>>35119404
Mostly to counter,
>hur dur glock gud, u can't shoot for shit.

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>>35118141
What I have never understood about any fan is that the belief that if it isn't what they like it must be bad or worse than what they are into , whether it's sports ,cars , guns , religion , whatever.

I am a big fan of Sig-Sauer pistols , but I also appreciate that glock makes a pretty good product , particularly at the price point.

Just because I have a preference for Sig , doesn't mean that I am going to shit all over glock.

Would I buy a Glock ? , yeah.
Do I want one , not really.

We all as shooters should embrace each other as brothers and strengthen our community , not squabble over whos flavour is the best.

We have enough problems with anti-gunners , we don't need to create divisions between ourselves.

I am an Australian shooter , so I have a particularly hard time maintaining my hobby , I own six long arms and I am looking at getting into pistol club target shooting, a .40 S&W Glock 22 is probably what I am going to buy as my first target pistol , since I can get a heap of used police brass on the cheap , since .40 S&W isn't popular here noone wants the once fired police brass.

>>35118277
about $800-$900Au new here in Australia, so about 3 months of saving if you are on minimum wage.

Are you a McDonalds employee in the US ?

>>35119876
Get a better gun, like a USP if you wanna shoot .40
.40 glocks and reloads/handloads caused all the glocknade problems

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>5.56 is on its way out but 556 babies will defend it even once its gone
>no reason to own anything more than a shot gun for home defense
>no reason to buy NV, you'll never use it in an operation of any sorts besides larping with your fat neckbeard friends
>weeaboos should not be allowed to post on /k/
>traps aren't gay
>I want a mass shooting to happen so I can sit behind my screen with my popcorn and karo to watch how many cops the guy can kill

>>35118319
Well enjoy plenty of dead boards then. It has the largest traffic because it's many peoples homeboard.

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>>35119930
Yes , in previous generations , I looked into that and I was totally turned off , but I am looking at getting a Generation 4 Glock 22 , so I will be fine.

The high pressure .40 S&W and 10mm issues have been sorted out from what the pro-shooters at the club told me , and they are using Generation 4 Glock 22 & 35 and Glock Glock 20 and 40 pistols using their own hand loads.

>>35119950
lel , good one.

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>>35119998
>he likes females

>>35118193
Gloxks are boring for non new shooters as well.

>>35120021
Yeah sorry , the whole trap thing hasn't caught on in Australia , we still like vagina.

I'm sure that we will catch up to the faggotry of the US sooner or later.

>>35118301
Pistols are pretty much useless in warfare and basically are just a fashion item in the modern day. There are a multitude of different pistols availible so you no longer have to settle for a glock. Owning one is a sign of a person that has a complete lack of agency or personality.

>>35120042
Courtesy of Melbourne ;)

>>35120070
I live in country Victoria (Central Goldfields)and I fucken hate the "progressive" identity politics fuck heads in Melbourne , I wish I could build a wall around the trendies.

>>35120060
Living in Australia where it is nigh impossible to get a semi-auto long arm (Professional pest control and Farmer only) , a pistol combined with a bolt action rifle is the best options I legally have.

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>>35118225
Brutal roast

>>35119930
*Glock 22 allows me to use police magazines in case of WROL.

>>35118141
Part of me wants a glock to build a roland special but every time I look at the price tag and realize how much ammo that would buy I decide against it.

The ubiquity is a definite advantage though, regardless of inherent quality.

>>35118141
its the gun i leave at home for the wife since the trigger pull is heavy and there are few buttons and many bullets. Great gun for people who dont shoot.

>>35118506
You know, in a lot of places you can make less than that and be solid middle class. The area I'm in is like that and we don't have a lot of crime. The crime we do have is because spics and addicts, but if we could get rid of them it wouldn't be too bad a place. You really shouldn't judge people based on income man.

>>35118319
The entire internet manipulated by jews, and you're "th.th. they're mean over at /pol"

>>35120197
> trigger pull is heavy

Oh god. Another kid who can't find 30 bucks to change out their bar.

>>35118506
Your stats are wrong even if I'm generous and assume you're talking about household income.

Also:

>Poor people don't deserve effective self defense

Have fun trying to defend that on moral grounds.

>>35118260
FUCKING LURK MOAR DUMBASS

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>>35118521
Neither HK or NAVSOC abandoned it, explain pic related.

>>35118347
Ever heard of saving up?

>>35118319
I actually agree with this. /pol/ is the worst board on 4chan. Its worse than /b/.

>>35118485
I see both sides of the argument. The capacity is similar to most subcompact autos... Its just the reload speed that sucks.

>>35119998
You be better off with gen 3 esp in .40 since you still have some slide left compared to gen 4 where a lot of the steel is milled off to accept da dual recoil spring.

I'm going to be gettin a glock 22 gen 3

>>35118690
If you are attacked by a small rodent.

>>35119404
Appeal to authority and because the military is full of brawny 6'6" baby killing PTSD suffering psychos they know all about every gun ever.

>>35118319
t. nigger

>>35120290
I don't fix a gun with a goofy grip angle and a $2 trigger with aftermarket bandaids, I just upgrade to a 1911, Your woman, is she full of plastic aftermarket parts too?

>>35120535
>1911
>upgrade
lel

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>>35118141
I apreciate Glock

They just frustrate me when they can easily improve their product, refuse to do so, and then claim perfection.

All while aftermarket companies make bank doing exactly that

>>35120672
what about Gen4 and the new Gen5 Glocks ?
The triggers are much improved on the Gen5 I heard.

>>35120341
id rather buy a sub 300 and a shit ton of ammo than a 300 or more and not as much or no ammo, retard
>just save up!
yeah and die? ok thanks

>>35118469
>someone else should pay for poor people to have guns.
Bernout detected

>>35119950
>unpopular opinions
>traps aren't gay
The others are fine, but this is scientifically false.

>>35119998
>girl is small enough that the glock looks fuckhueg
>Still noticeably fat
Sad!

>>35120737
>can't put $100 or even $50 aside each month
>can't save for a reliable gun instead of a beater
>can't continue to put money aside after purchase for ammo.
Just buy a fucking c9 and Tula steel case ammo or get off this fucking board.

>>35120737
>Fast for a few days.
>Save money not buying food or drinks.
>Repeat next week
>Save enough to buy a gun you can trust

You shouldn't settle for the first cheap shit you can afford. Very unwise for literally any product or service.

>>35118449
Kill yourself faggot.

>>35121790
>>35121085

this is an insanely stupid post

we live in a world where you can get great reliable guns for way cheaper than new glock or even a used glock

So if you don't care about buying the newest more expensive best reviewed thing, why force yourself?

>>35120165
Bonus points for actually kinda putting thought into it. But remember that the citizens outnumber police about 300 to 1 in a lot of cities, and departments don't really stockpile ammo.

>>35121985
Your definition of reliable must be pretty fucking loose.

Shitting the bed after 200 rounds of tulammo isn't worth $300.

And a warranty to patch up a turd won't save your life.

>>35118141
I was an anti Glock memer, but now I sort of want one to have the quintessential striker fired handgun.

>>35118449
>Only the people I think should own guns should own guns

There's a bunch of politicians out there that think the same way, and there's a fair chance you're not on their list of people that should own guns. Guns for all so longs as you haven't proven yourself to be a danger to society or no guns at all.

>>35118476
Why would he cry? He still has his guns. I think we got some triggered libcucks

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>>35119950
>5.56 is on its way out but 556 babies will defend it even once its gone
That groundhog round should've never been used on people. It'll kill people, sure, but so will a 22lr.
>no reason to own anything more than a shot gun for home defense
recoil sensitive people are really the only folks I who should be using anything other than a shotgun. I hate how people think you're a liberal cuck when you say something like this, but shotguns are objectively the best tool for the job of home defense. pic related
>no reason to buy NV, you'll never use it in an operation of any sorts besides larping with your fat neckbeard friends
NV is mostly a meme anyway
>weeaboos should not be allowed to post on /k/
Agreed
>traps aren't gay
Ehhhhh
>I want a mass shooting to happen so I can sit behind my screen with my popcorn and karo to watch how many cops the guy can kill
Those guys never even try to fight the cops for some reason. Even Eric and Dylan pussied out and offed themselves at the last minute.

Best opinions in the thread so far.

>>35123236
5.56 SP ammo is superior to buckshot in almost every way. Lower recoil, higher capacity, less overpenetration and easier follow-up shots

>>35122976
wow what year are you living in

>>35118319
Unironically die

>>35118193
Glock is just shitty out of the box. It does the job of shooting projectiles really well and not much else.
>you can customize it to be yours! The aftermarket!
Or I could just buy something that is good out of the box for cheaper than a Glock and not spend more money. Also I shoot idpa so modifications are out the window. (yes I know there's a modified league, no I don't want to shoot against fags who have to mod a CC gun)

Still have a 10mm Glock though. Not much competition is there.

>>35119293

>It works by spring tension of the extractor body itself.
It that's your definition of a spring, then the glock's extractor itself is a spring.

>Only the most recent generations, and they're entirely unnecessary.
The exact same could be said of the series 80 setup, but you seemed eager to include that.

>Every spring in every pistol can be bent by hand. That's not exactly a good argument.
I guess you missed the word 'easily'.
Tiny single wire springs are far less durable than coil springs.

>>35122976
Fuck off I told him to buy a c9 they go bang and they're cheap. But it will not last nearly as long as a glock or a similar quality pistol. Also $500 some odd dollars is fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things. I make below average national wage and itdidnt take that long to save.

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.40 S&W is an all around better cartridge than .45 and 9mm, also easy to stock up on in comparison to 10 milimemer

>>35124812
I liked firing .40 for target shooting more that 9mm or .45.

Seemed crisper, but I might just be retarded.

Hammer-fired SAO is objectively the best kind of self-loading handgun.

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>>35120672
>front slide serrations and STDippling
Wow, fall for trainer/ custom shop harder, why don't you.

>>35123236
>but shotguns are objectively the best tool for the job of home defense.
Depends on how you define "home". If you have a rural property with space around it then you're an idiot for using anything other than an automatic rifle.

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>>35118141
Proper unpopular opinion that triggers all over the political spectrum: Nobody should be born with American citizenship. Children born in America should take a mandatory single-attempt test at 18 to prove you both fully understand and support all the values in the constitution and her bill of rights, provided you pass you then start four years of military service where you will be given opportunities for specialization that will benefit you in the work force. Those remaining with an honorable discharge receive American citizenship.

>>35124575
You didn't have to tell me you were a poorfag making bad financial decisions.

>>35126899
>implying that's unpopular
Only thing you need is somewhere to dump the detritus.

>>35126899
that puts too much authority in those who make the test, those who administer it, and those who grade it

>>35126995
Just retain them as a sub class that can't vote, can't own weapons or land, can't work without permits, and have have cap on both the amount they can make and the amount of wealth they can hold. Either the trash will clean itself up by leaving or it'll never hold enough resources and influence to corrupt American ideals.

>>35127056
>la ebin slavery meme
No, you need them physically out of the country or else that breed like rats and you have constant slave revolts a la late antebellum south.

I like my Glock as well. Went to buy my first pistol, was intent on CZ or anything that's not a Glock, held them, liked look and feel of Glock most, not really regretting so far.
Shot a friend's XDm with target sights and race trigger - sure it was the sportier gun for less money, but I shot mine better. Also nicer finish.
I've come full circle on the trigger from hating it (low and left all day) to seeing nothing wrong with it (9s and 10s all day) to realizing a nicer trigger might benefit my shooting because I won't have a flyer or bad day just because I wasn't 100% focused on trigger control.

>>35127123
I got a brand new G17 and VP9. I'd never shot either, but the G17 had all rounds in the 9 or X. VP9 certainly did not.

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>>35120060
>Owning one is a sign of a person that has a complete lack of agency or personality.
>implying a person who doesn't isn't a slave to other's opinions or their own vanity so they can be associated with certain fashionable gun(s)
>implying a person buying brand x instead of brand y or z has no agency

.45 ACP is the best handgun round for suppressor use.

>>35127341
holy fuck I want this meme dead. 45 ACP is louder than 147 gr 9mm through a suppressor.

>>35127358
>subsonic 9mm
I mean, who doesn't want .38 acp performance out of a full sized handgun

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>>35127407
>arguing over which underpowered handgun round can maim a target infinitesimally more

>>35127358
see: >>35127407

You're a stupid nigger, and here's why:
Out of pistol length barrels, standard .45 ACP is subsonic.
Subsonic + suppressor = quiet
Of course, anything can be loaded with such a light load it's subsonic, even .223.
However, by doing that, you lose speed.
Slow speed + relatively light bullet = shit

>tl;rd fuddyfive is already slow and heavy, 9mm isn't

>>35127494
>115 vs 215
>lol, it's all just holes
For standard ammo, yes but subsonics need to rely more on mass to push the bullet, 9mm IS underpowered or more accurstley u underweight in this scenario.

>>35127511
>>35127516
Federal HST 150 gr 9mm, for instance, expands to nearly twice its caliber just like the 45 acp offering yet it penetrates more in gel tests and is even more quiet when suppressed.

>Of course, anything can be loaded with such a light load it's subsonic
Holy shit the 45 fag is so deluded about 45 being great for suppression he honestly thinks 147 gr loads are loaded "light."

>>35118386
This

>>35123470
>it does the job that firearms were intended to do really well, but not much else

#retarded

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>>35127407
>>35127341
>>35127511
>>35127516
This thread is for unpopular opinions, not incorrect ones.

>>35120731
You heard wrong.

>>35120737
You've never needed a gun in your life. You could have been saving this whole time.

>>35121985
>we live in a world where you can get great reliable guns for way cheaper than new glock or even a used glock
Nope. Only niggers believe this.

>>35128351
The trigger pull has been changed, though. Everyone has said that it's been improved.

>>35128717
Who specifically because i haven't heard anything of the sort. If it was in any way an improvement people wouldn't be flaming it constantly all over the internet as a disappointment and a slap in the face by glock. You only read magazines or something?

>>35128838
mrgunsngear, John Lovell, Chris Bartrocci or however you spell his last name, for instance.

There's the option of metal factory sights if you want them, nearly every facet worth mentioning to improve has just been addressed with the Gen5 (trigger pull improved, finish improved, finger grooves removed, government model [i.e. 17M/19M] made available, ambi controls, baseplate cutouts, follower color changed, improved recoil spring timing, improved striker safety block, non serrated trigger on the 19, beveled front slide, improved accuracy from new barrel).

What the fuck else would you want out of a new model? A rail mounted masturbatory device included? There's likely going to be even forward serration and MOS models made available later. Glock has the patent on a plain slide, which is why they make distinct FS models (that's why all the other guns don't look so """boring."")

The only people that are disappointed or mad are the usual haters which, in a quest to appease their vanity, won't ever associate themselves with glock or the poorfags who can't afford to replace their old gun (because they can't have the old gen anymore for whatever reason) and now incompatible aftermarket accessories because of the obvious design implications involved with the ambi controls, redesigned trigger/cruciform, and single pin locking block/new barrel.

>>35118506
Average is skewed when you have absurd outliers, like american wealth. A better metric is Median, aka "50% are above, 50% are below".

Median and Mean CAN be the same, like in a true bell curve. But often, they are not. This is one of the few occasions where I think libs use better math, because wealth distribution and salary distribution is much better understood by median than including Warren Buffet types who skew the scale so far that it shatters the curve.

>>35129073
You keep saying the trigger is better without explaining how or why.
>what more could you want in a factory new pistol
-supressor ready options
-manual safety option
-front slide serrations
You know just the things that the market has been demanding since day 1.
>The only people who are mad are the usual haters...
>haters
>namedropping paid shills
I get it. You're a fanboy.

>>35129408
>You keep saying the trigger is better without explaining how or why.
Ok go look at the striker safety block. It's beveled to match the actuating part of the trigger bar, which results in a better interface and subsequently better take up. Secondly the pre travel distance has been adjusted to be shorter.

>front slide serrations
I've already explained why they make distinct FS SKUs. They probably will for the gen5. Some people don't like them you know and a plain slide is part of Glock's brand appeal/recognition, but you can still buy FS versions of gen4 it will likely be the same for gen5 since it just came out.

>supressor ready options
I agree with you on this somewhat. Barrels like the silencerco ones are available and almost cheap enough to cancel out any extra premium a manufacturer would charge for such a variant. I can go on brownells and buy a 150 dollar glock 19 threaded barrel which a manufacturer might charge an extra amount for where instead I can just buy the exact pitch I want instead of being stuck with a metric pitch like on my USP. Glock could just as easily introduce metric threaded barrel pistols and you might be just as upset because it doesn't fit your silencer that you already own. In which case, going back to square one and letting the aftermarket handle it can be the better option for all.

>manual safety option
kys. Adding an extra SKU just for people who can't understand how to use a handgun at the most basic and fundamental levels (or are not comforatable doing so) isn't a service to anyone.

>>35129408
>You keep saying the trigger is better without explaining how or why.
Oh and another thing I forgot the cruciform and trigger return spring have been changed as well to be more like the glock 42/43 and NY triggers respectively.

>no Iván, when you hold the pistol like rifle it doesn't make it more accurate

>>35129073
>improved recoil spring timing
How?

SKS>Mini 14

>>35129702
The dual second outer spring on the 17 has been lengthened and the 19 looks the same but from the videos I've seen has a different stamping compared to the gen4 "0 4 3." They changed this to give extra reliability when feeding from magazines with weakened/weaker springs.

I disagree. Appreciating a variety of firearms for their specific attributes and their advantages for different uses or users is growing up as a

>>35129758
*Growing up as a shooter.

Not sure what happened here.

>>35129742
Can you use the new spring in a Gen 4 19?

I bought a 19 and 17 in the last 6 months and I'm pretty salty they'd claim to have upgraded reliability as it implies the previous generous had, and still has, design issues.

And they reduced their warranty to be the same shit as century arms. 1 year limited.

>>35129785
No the interface against the barrel has changed length, so it can't be used.

>as it implies the previous generous had, and still has, design issues.
That's not necessarily the case. The gen5 was initially tailored towards department/military use who would be more likely to have worn magazines. It's probable during their testing for the MHS/M series they came across users that did not properly identify and replace old, worn out, magazine springs that in conjunction with the changes to the locking block/barrel necessitated a change that gave a net benefit that was more important for gen5 and a marginal improvement compared to the gen4.

Just like any gun you intend for serious use you should identify any magazines that are used during feeding failures and properly diagnose the issue.

That being said I'd be salty AF if I bought a glock a few months before the new gen came out. I just finished my Roland special about 4 months ago (right before trijicon released the RMR gen2 as well) on my gen4 19 I bought in 2014. I'm marginally upset they came out with a new gun after I've spent some money ricing out my gen4 but I'll wait for the aftermarket to get in place so I can roland special a gen5 eventually.

>>35129686
>To be more like NY triggers
>this is an improvement
Wew lad

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>>35118319
>I've posted this pic 27 times last week

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>>35118319
>le pol boogeyman maymay
Stop posting now

>>35129408
I don't deny I'm a fanboy. I really appreciate the design and engineering. I'm not sure which people you follow who are all "constantly flaming it." outside of CZ, HK, XD, and M&P forums as well as anonymous contrarian hipsters on /k/.

>>35130032
NY triggers have much better reset, though just increased trigger pull. If you look at a picture of a gen5 it is obviously different, it's just the closest comparison I can make easily. I can't comment exactly on the weight since I haven't detail stripped one myself, but the reviews I've seen all say that the trigger pull is better while having a nicer reset, too. The redesigned trigger return spring should have a part in both from my understanding.

>>35129785
Oh sorry, apparently 17 springs are not interchangeable but the 19 is according to RECOIL magazine. I might have to look into getting one now that you've mentioned it.

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>>35118319
this sounds like a fucking great proposal

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>>35129724
>Both are shit
>one needs modifications for detachable mags
>one takes AR mags

Your Russian friends on steam will still never accept you

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>>35118141
Many spec-ops guys, police, grunts and POGs both carry glocks as their sidearms, this bizarro /k/ where hi-points are respectable to own but glocks are trash is scary to me. It's like the people who know anything about firearms are gone and it's just a bunch of post-apocalyptic contrarians who never shot a gun before in their life arguing over how they think they work based off a few books written by experts they huddle over to try and decipher which is the "best" gun. There's nothing wrong with glocks, they're solid guns.

Also, check out this fucking captcha.

>>35118141
>.pellet rifle or .22lr bolt action rifle is the best gun to learn how to shoot on
>Bushmaster XM-15s are solid rifles and I've never had a malfunction/misfire with one
>I prefer an AK-47 to an AR-15 because they're more fun
>the 10/22 is great, but far from my favorite .22
>I love Taurus revolvers and their warranty even more
>full size caliber, bolt action rifles are my favorite rifles
>the Mossberg 500 is my favorite gun
>love Mossberg shotguns but not Mossberg rifles
>the best SHTF prep is lifting and running, sniper rifles and MREs be damned
>if your SHTF rig makes you look like an airsoft LARPer, you're only making yourself a target
>hunting is my favorite use of firearms
>the days of Century being trash are long gone
>UCP/ACU is aesthetically pleasing
>Kimber is the Harley Davidson of handguns, having their customers over pay for a product comparable to much cheaper alternatives out there
>Hi Point carbines are cool even though I don't want to own one
>too many people still underestimate 9mm
>a .38 snub is a solid choice for concealed carry
>/k/ has some good information hidden among a load of false information when it comes to guns

>>35130247
>POWLEESE AND SPECK AWPS
Glock marketing is amazing. It's a wonder why they even bother with print ads when their loyal pawns will shill them to infinity.

>>35130247
>grunts carry glocks
I was going to ask if you are retarded, but you are defending glock so I already know the answer

>>35130464
>>.pellet rifle or .22lr bolt action rifle is the best gun to learn how to shoot on
>>the 10/22 is great, but far from my favorite .22
>>love Mossberg shotguns but not Mossberg rifles
>>the best SHTF prep is lifting and running, sniper rifles and MREs be damned
>>if your SHTF rig makes you look like an airsoft LARPer, you're only making yourself a target
>>Kimber is the Harley Davidson of handguns, having their customers over pay for a product comparable to much cheaper alternatives out there
>>a .38 snub is a solid choice for concealed carry
>>/k/ has some good information hidden among a load of false information when it comes to guns

How the fuck are these unpopular opinions?

>>35118449
I am pro-gun licencing (so most of you would consider me a gun grabber), but the idea of literally forbidding gun ownership to poor people... It's not appalling, it's disgusting. You're in the wrong country. Go to Britain or anywhere such oppressive laws exist, people like you shouldn't live in the USA.

>>35130165
>Oh sorry, apparently 17 springs are not interchangeable but the 19 is according to RECOIL magazine.

Thanks for that. That's what I had assumed but I'd hate to buy something and have it not work.

It'll probably take a while to wear out my stock spring but I'll know what to look for when I'm ready to upgrade.

new episode is literally stand by me. how lazy can these writers be?

HK isn't some kind of messiah of the handgun world.

>>35123470
>It does the job of shooting projectiles really well and not much else.
>It does literally the only job that it is meant to do really well
>somehow this makes it "shitty"

What a fucking retard.

>>35130875
You can buy your own gear for use in the military, you know. I have a few marine buddies who bought their own leg holsters and sidearms during iraqi freedom. It's not issued, but they were used.
>>35130828
Yes, police and special ops use glocks. Not all of them, but they do use them. I don't worship the police or the military, I'm just saying that if government door-kickers rely on it, it's probably good enough for whatever an average anon on /k/ would use it for, besides sticking it up your ass. Also not an argument.

>>35118260
>someone actually got memed this hard
>cant actually google KB's

You're not smart enough to own firearms.

>>35132202
It's low quality bait.

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>>35132263
Your "low quality bait" post is low quality bait.

>>35132289
What? I'm saying the anon claiming glocks are the only guns that explode is very obviously a troll.

>>35132302
Oh, I thought you were calling my post bait.

Disregard.

>>35132289
>search HK kaboom
>results include a Winchester rifle, SIG pistol, 1911 and Glock.

>>35132365
>5/30 images are unrelated
>act retarded anyway

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>>35129408
>Manual safety
>front slide serrations
I'm ambivalent towards glock but you are a retarded tacticool faggot

>Weaver stance is still a viable stance to shoot from
>YouTube channels mostly parrot the same shit over and over again and never really explain "why" or just copy what the last guy said. There's a few exceptions and its a breath if fresh
>.40 is fine. Its not a bad idea to have a pistol in .40 to sit on when the next scare happens and 9mm is non existent
>Most handguns today are reliable and most of the shit flinging comes from brand loyalty. Give me any decent handgun and I'll be happy

>>35118260
There is a higher chance that your brakes will fail the next time you drive than that of a glock exploding in your hand. Don't take that chance, just walk brah

80% of the world uses glocks. All US SOF uses glocks.

They are all wrong and you are right I take it?

>>35133444
>b-but the masses use it
People who don't like pistols use glocks. What a surprise.

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>>35118141
>There's no reason to buy a Gucci AR-15.
>KAC and (to a lesser extent) LMT are overrated
>The H&K416 is a piece of shit and governments are retarded for adopting it.
>Lancer mags are a meme.
>ACOGs are overrated.
>People who buy an expensive first gun are as retarded as the slavshit-loving polesmokers who bought an SKS or Nugget ad a first gun.
>All the Slavshit /k/ dreams over is extremely overated, coming from somebody who spent years dealing with this slavshit. The only Slavgat worthy of reputation is the PKM.

>>35118379
>CAG aren't pistol people

Nigger are you serious?
You can literally tell a CAG member by the callus on the webbing between their thumb and index finger due to how much they shoot pistols. The only reason they switched from 1911s to Glocks was because they were shooting 1911s so much that it became too expensive to buy new ones, then spend equal amount of money onto upgrade kits to fit it to the individual operator only for it to be run to the ground within two or three months. Thats how much CAG shoots pistols.

Plus CAG guys typically carry two pistols.

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>>35120060
>owns a point and click weapon that can make even the burliest bandit, highwayman, and robber instantly fucking dead
>but that also means no self agency
>slave to fashion whims!
I want you to realize, right now, that I have never seen anything as dumb as what you've wrote on this board. I have seen naive, I have seen memes, trolling, and ruses, but I have never actually seen anyone as dumb as you.

Oh wait, nevermind, I just thought of something else. That was pretty fuckin' stupid though.

>>35118154
>>35118193
People buying their first pistol tend to go in with a few ideas based on a cursory internet search. They generally get the advice to hold and/or shoot a few of the recommended guns. I haven't worked at a gun store in like 4 years now, but back then the 3 common recommendations were Glock, M&P, and XD. Way more often than not, they'd come in thinking they wanted a Glock, and then held an M&P and went with that.

>>35118193
This is pretty accurate. I hate glocks, but I've shot fairly well with one. They're great guns, they just don't have a soul.
I also can't shoot other polymer frame guns for some reason, which has prevented me from buying an HK.

>>35133157
Ignoring the decades long demands of the market is the mark of a company that doesn't care about its customers. But when your product appeals to the lowest common denominator and your marketing is Apple tier, dogs slurp it up anyway. People say HK hates civilians, but nobody hates you more than glock.

>>35133496
I agree but slightly disagree with some.

>KAC and LMT are over rated over priced but they are top of the line

>explain the 416. I can only fault it on the quad rail

>lancers are nice fuck you

>ACOGs are indeed over rated but pretty good nonetheless

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>>35118319
/k/ is a /pol/ board

>>35134789

>/fit/

Yeah, no, we already have furries, we don't need homos and manlets.

>>35118505
It is now that they're the minority of guns produced and there's no real advantage to having a steel frame other than maybe looks and range shooting comfort.

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>>35118260
Probably because you get your information on firearms from an anime imageboard.

>>35118141
>Unpopular opinions

That means they're wrong, sweetie.

>>35119211
>I have friends and family in military
So why does that make your opinion worth anything neverserved faggot?
>Garbagelock
Literally name a better service pistol for the same money

>>35134809
Idk man. Ive seen some /k/ meet ups and most of you guys need to lift and/or put the fork down.

>>35135873
No, most of the stuff we here today are based on beliefs and effect SOP.

>bad guys will shoot at your flashlight, so hold it away from you
>put a WML on your M4 and/or pistol

See what I mean?

>>35118319
Fuck you, nigger.

>>35135818
>It is now that they're the minority of guns produced
Find me a single source to back that up.

>>35118141
Handguns are fucking stupid. If you want something dead, make it dead quick. Use a rifle or a shotgun.

>>35136003
When is the light not in front of you while on? What does your post even trying to imply?

>>35120535
>Thinks a trigger bar is plastic
And fake tits are great, depending on what the girl's natural ones look and feel like and the procedure done. I don't think you've ever touched any in real life. I'd rather have fake tits than small saggy ones.

>>35136047
Look up the FBI flashlight technique.

>>35123236
>shotguns are objectively the best tool for the job of home defense
Nah. They over-penetrate far more than 5.56 will unless you use a gimp load. Plus I would trust 5.56 as fast as you can pull the trigger over 1 shot of buckshot that takes twice or three times as long to follow up. Many people use manual action shotguns which are susceptible to short-shucking in defense situations. Real reliable semi autos are cheap too but people who use shotguns for HD are fudds anyway so they don't trust that newfangled technology.

>most shooters just accept whatever is taught to them or what they read on /k/ as fact and won't experiment to see what works for them.
>overuse of the "muh X uses it" argument

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>>35130194
>one takes AR mags
if ruger would get it's head out of it's ass and convert the mini 14 to STANAG, i'd buy one.

>>35134286
>They're ignoring the market!
>Have the highest market share
>Glock dogs! How dare you not care about useless features that I autistically screech over

>>35118193
I started out disliking Glocks, because of the memes, plastic sights and the spongy triggers and blocky ergo's

Than I actually got a G20SF, and a 9mm followed.
Glocks are master of nothing, good at everything guns, and the fact that IRL they are the AR-15 of pistols (actual pistols not the ATF def) and thus are extremely customizable and have a shitton of aftermarket parts.

You can also go our and build a ghost glock, or build a glock with next to no Glock brand glock parts

>>35130875
No, grunts carry wopshit and soon to be exetershit. SOCOM are the only ones who have standardized around glocks.

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>>35132365
>search glock kaboom
>results include HK's, XD's, 1911's, and revolvers

there are largely no differences between AR manufacturers these days

popular pistol calibers are effectively near identical

most SHTF/prepper types would die of infection if the power went out for a week

most mil/leo types know shitall about guns

someone who bought a used hipoint and shoots on weekend deserves respect
someone who bought a gucci AR that only comes out of the gucci pelican case for pictures deserves derision

it's fine to want a fancy rollmark, but insisting a DD/noveske/whoever lower is better than a cheapo polymer is silly

>>35136027
>Glocks alone make up 65% of market share for police agencies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock
>4/5 of the top selling CCW pistols are polymer
https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/18/the-5-best-selling-handguns-in-america-all-have-1.aspx
>Every single major manufacturer famous for their metal guns now at least makes polymer guns (S&W, CZ, Sig, Beretta etc.) if it isn't their best seller

>>35118193
>muh safety
>muh frame
>ugly

those are the reasons I didn't get one, I've shot them though and they're fine shooters.

so for my first handguns I bought a 92FS Inox and a P38.

>>35120060
>are just a fashion item in the modern day
Mil fag here, I'm way more likely to use my handgun in a CC situation than to ever use a rifle I qual'd on once. Let me guess, you own a browning hi power because youre a supreme gentleman?

>>35119432
I always find this shit funny, I learned way more about firearms on my own time than I ever did in the military

>>35136046
t. man without CHL

>>35118347

get a cheap colt navy clone

>>35136272
>.32acp is the same as 9mm which is the same as .45 acp

Fuck off dude, that sa spook

>>35118506

>innocent until proven guilty does not apply to x group because muh crime reduction

>>35126899
>four years for everyone
Jesus christ you really don't understand how fiscally bad that would be long term do you, utopianist dumbfuck.

>>35136541
>.32acp
>popular
nah

>>35131152

Who determines the licensing procedures? Will there be tests? Who determines the content of any tests? Who ensures the tests remain unbiased and impartial? What assurances will there be that ludicrously difficult and costly licensing processes won't be implimented as in Japan so gun ownership is only a thing of the elite?

>>35136375
>marketshare
>top selling
>at least
>implying all guns are handguns
I swear those goalposts were right here where i left them.

>>35137014
>Marketshare and top selling
Yes. You see the guns that get sold the most are the ones that get made the most. This is a logical inference, not goalpost moving.
>all guns are handguns
Never implied that

>>35137579
>all guns are handguns
>Never implied that
>35135818
>the majority of guns
>35136375
Begin spewing about marketshare of handguns

>>35118141
glocks are great. ignore the surplus fuds on here.

>>35138830
>great
>surplus
>fuds
You don't know what any of these words mean.

>>35136673
My idea would be to implement a gun license based on the driving license, more than European hunting licences. Learn gun safety, how to operate the common gun platforms (revolvers, semi-auto pistols, pump-action and break-action shotguns, bolt action, semi-auto and lever-action rifles). If the instructor thinks the guy is too retarded to allow him to own a firearm safely, then no license. Would also avoid the "Guns are magic wands, just buy one, put it in a safe and never shoot" state of mind.

Then declare "assault weapons bans" and CC prohibition in Commie states unconstitutional.
Drop the $200 Tax stamp for SBRs and silencers.
The problem would be that communist states would try to forbid gun ownership by systematically refusing licenses. This must be watched by the federal government and NGOs.

>>35141653
And the gun license would only be required to buy a firearm and firearms parts, not to own one. Would avoid a gun-grabbing frenzy from the ATF.

>>35139858
Sorry, I meant no disrespect. I meant to say surplus-sperg. Hope that clears things up!

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Beretta 92 is not aesthetic, it looks like a freaking mess.

>>35120042
>>35119998
dat hourglass figure....glock... Is it bad that I want to slap her ass? Nah, it isn't. *Adam West eating Taffy noises*

OP doesn't suck mammoth cocks

>>35120737
you are a faggot

>>35128379
t. glock shill

>>35118141
You want to hear an unpopular opinion? Fucking /k/ destroyed my decisions on what guns i want to buy, because if one anon say one gun is good, the other will say it's SHIT.
But then again, it's my fault of getting some advice for guns on /k/, and 4chan in general.
Wankers.

>>35118947
So a 9mm 1911 is win/win

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Can someone explain the difference between this thread and a YLYL ?

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>>35143443
Just don't let them turn you into a trap