Flying with Firearms

>>35116761
I have a timeshare on a G5, so no, I wouldn't know.

>>35116761
Get insurance.

>>35116761
>When you check in, declare your firearm to the desk lady
>they will make you sign a form stating that your firearm is unloaded
>TSA may take you to a back room, have you open your case, and visually inspect that your firearm is unloaded. They don't give a fuck what you have. Just make sure that the gun has some sort of signal that it is unloaded (chamber flag)
>when you get the thumbs up, LOCK YOUR CASE WITH A HEAVY DUTY KEYED PADLOCK. Do not put a TSA lock on your gun case. After check-in, no one can have access to your firearm but you. Your firearm will be treated like newborn organ donations. They will not lose your firearm, but a lot of attention will be on it. Again, lock it tight.
>proceed through boarding like normal

t. I travel a lot with my guns

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>>35116761
You're going to need to call the airline prior to your arrival with what weapon you're bringing and how many weapons you're going to check. They're going to want to know if you're bringing ammunition and how much. Not sure how it's done with domestic flights, but on international flights we have someone come out and visually inspect your lock (it should be a good heavy lock) and that your firearm is unloaded. You sign some paperwork and we then take you and your ammo and weapon to TSA where they inspect it. Once through TSA inspection there's another airline employee that takes possession of your stuff and loads it onto the aircraft. The same process goes in reverse when you get to your final destination. It's a pain for the guys who work at the airport cause we physically have to babysit that shit else the TSA/CBP goes apeshit.

t. Emirates employee

>>35116761
>experience with 1700 cases and Southwest Airlines by chance


Yea I fly that same setup all the time. I have never gotten on oversized luggage charge. Its been over weight a couple times though. The people unloading the plane drop gun cases 50% but I have never had anything break while in the Pelican case. Also throw a whole fuck ton of stickers and stuff to make the case look unique. You have to pick your gun up from the airlines baggage office and even with the checked bag slip and my name on the case people have been dicks about my case not being off the plane so I keep a picture of the case with the stickers so if its sitting behind the jerk off I can show them.

>>35117086
Why are the emirates stewdesses so hot?

>>35116991
All this confirmed, travel to and from Alaska with with guns

>>35117190
Just draw big cocks all over it in white sharpie, no one will want to steal it.

>>35117219
Hiring standards and a super strict uniform code. Height and weight requirements are mandatory and basically they only recruit based on looks out of the middle east. Any non Arab cabin crews you see have to go through the same standards but they're cranked up to 11

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>>35116761
i had to fly recently. with firearms and i will tell you about my experience. it wasn't bad.
keep in mind tha this was my first and only time doing this and also, i haven't flown in more than 15 years

all Pelican cases are great. they're heavy. get one with wheels and make sure all of your shit will fit inside with plenty of foam

i flew from Tampa to SFO

i got to the airport early.
i went to the bag check immediately and told them i had firearms and that i essentially didn't know what the procedure was.

i was politely instructed and followed their directions.
there was no anti 2nd amendment sentiment directed at me, just some polite banter
"oh do you collect guns?" etc.. smiles all the way.

they briefly examined the contents of my case - they opened it and saw guns. i locked the case back up and put the keys in my pocket.
at this point, the case was handed over to a couple white operator-looking dudes from TSA
they took the case out of my sight, came back a few minutes later and gave me a thumbs-up.
i summoned one of the dudes over since i had a couple questions. he wasn't overly friendly, but was polite and helpful, just very business-like

at that point i went to the boarding area.

i had additional item that led to me having a private screening before i could get to the boarding area. i can tell about this if anyone wants to hear. it wasn't a problem, but i could see it causing anxiety for a traveler. also, i don't think my private screening had anything to do with the firearms, but it may have.
it was more due to the contents of the carryon - two 100 OZ Engelhard silver bars

My experience matches most people here. Absolutely routine shit flying out of California. My case came out into the convsyer belt with the rest of the luggage though, no special office pickup.

>>35117318
>i can tell about this if anyone wants to hear.

Do go ahead then

>>35116898
Thanks for enticing this thread with your worthless post

>>35117374
>My case came out into the convsyer belt with the rest of the luggage though, no special office pickup.
Then the airport fucked up. They're supposed to confirm the owner is picking up their firearms for a multitude of liability reasons.

>>35117318
This was pretty much my experience. I went to the desk, checked my two cases, guy came out and got my cases, escorted me and the cases to the TSA area, got the thumbs up, went through boarding with no extra screening except the scanner telling them to pat my left knee and boarded my plane no problem.

This was last month. Only thing that happened on my way back was the TSA at that airport were dicks about my having too big a tube of toothpaste in my carry-on and made me surrender it.

>>35117393
ok

i go through the metal detector, but before i do i mention that i have the silver bars in my carryon, plus a LOT of coins.
i'm informed that they may set my bag aside and ask to see the contents
i also had a little over $5000 in cash in my pocket in a pimp roll with a rubber band around it
i lock my carryon and put it on the belt
i get up to the xray and tell the guy i have all that cash in my pocket -- some old colored man.
he says 'put it on the belt'
i tell him i'm not going to do that.
he says 'ok, just hold it in your hand'
i do, i get xray'd
he asks me to give to cash to another attendant, younger black woman.
'oooooeee, dis fo me??'
no
she looks at it, hands it back 'ok u good'

where's my bag?
i see it set off to the side.

young, operator-looking bro comes over.
we need to look inside.
me - ok
him - do you want a private screening?
me - ya
him - ok, hold on a minute
he gets an older fudd-type dude and we go off to a small room.
they're both friendly and polite

inside, i put the case up on a table/sensor type thing with a small computer-type screen attached and i open the case.
they look at the stuff and rum a 'swab' around the inside of the case.
screen shows a warning sign - EXPLOSIVES
wtf
younger dude is like 'it's probably fine. we just have to test this - the swab.
older dude leaves with it and comes back like 2 minutes later.
no problems.
ok thanks guys.
dudes thank me. and i go get drunk before my flight.

i flew first class, so the Pelican w/ guns was like the 3rd thing on the belt when i arrived at SFO

if you're wondering: i was flying home after retrieving some personal items from my deceased father's estate. some firearms, coins and a few other small collectables

>>35117449
ya man, it seems like if you look 'normal' enough and don't sperg out you will have minimal problems.

i kinda look like an overweight cop and i was pretty relaxed since i knew i didn't have anything weird on me.

>>35117595
Thanks for sharing and sorry about your dad

>>35116761
I flew with a shotgun once. Everything went fine. Ammo needs to be stored inside the same factory container you bought it in. I think they have a limit on how much ammo you can bring, but I dont know what it is. I didn't have to call ahead or anything. I just told the lady at the counter I needed to check a firearm when I arrived.

>>35117595
Cool story, bro.

sincerely

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>>35117831
>>35118286
thanks guys.

as a non flyer i was anticipating the worst, but it went smoothly.
i hope my blog post is helpful to anyone who might have to fly w/guns

i should have also made it clear that you have to lock your case with non TSA locks. you keep the key.
getting a set of locks that have matching keys is also a smart thing to do.
i was also advised to get a set of spare locks since they may get cut.
i had a spare ser handy but didnt need them

anecdote: first thing i did when i flew into Tampa was go to Shooters World and buy an Infidel

>>35118422
stupid phone

>>35116761
>Anyone have any horror stories about flying with firearms in general?

no, both times I ever did it went perfectly fine

buy a cheap hard case with loops for padlocks and you're good to go

>>35117306
Got any juicy stories?

>>35117422
You're welcome peasant.

>>35117973
Can I keep loaded mags in cutouts in the pelican?

>>35116761
I flew with a pistol for the first time about 6 months ago. I called the airport ahead of time and asked them how to do it properly. They told me that the guns had to be in a case. That's it, that's all they told me. So I put my pistols in a case and they put a special sticker on it. I flew to my destination no problem. A few days later, on the way back the TSA tells me that I can't get on the airplane because my case doesn't have a lock on it. I tell them that I didn't have one and I flew just a few days ago without one no problem. "No, you didn't. That's not our policy." Fucking chucklefucks. There was no way I could go buy a lock somewhere and still make my flight, it was boarding in like 20 minutes. I'm freaking out and cursing and shit and finally they just kinda roll their eyes and open a desk drawer full of fucking locks and hand me one.

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>>35116761
>Flying with Firearms

no, just don't

>>35119592
>implying you're going to hurt a gun in a pelican case by throwing it
>letting fear prevent you from doing the things you want to do

>>35116991
Flown twice with guns. I have never had to sign anything, nor has my case been opened. Last time (year ago), dude just took me to a TSA dude, ran a swipe with that paper looking thing these use to check for bombs (nigga what? its a gun!) and they took it from there.

>LOCK YOUR CASE WITH A HEAVY DUTY KEYED PADLOCK
This. Use a normal, non-tsa bs lock.

>>35119389

You are the retard for checking a firearm in an unlocked case. Even if the TSA weren't notorious for being minimum wage welfare nigger thieves, the case could still open in transit and you lose your firearm.

You should just sell them and be a nogunz fag since you are clearly a moron.

>>35119592
I've flown twice with firearms, both times the airlines had to take extra care with the bag containing the locked hardcase.

>>35119844
You have to sign a card that they put in your luggage that states that you certify that the gun is unloaded, essentially.

>>35119592
What an idiot. He will just have to pick them up off the ground.

>>35119903
So it went from a form to a card? IDK, maybe its S/W but I never signed anything and my case was never opened.

>>35119970
I have seen check-in attendants that are confused regarding the opening of the case, and whether or not ammo can be stored in the case with the unloaded gun.

To be clear, they are supposed to have up open and visually inspect the gun, but not handle it in any way. You are allowed to have ammo in the locked hard sided case, with the unloaded gun, and the ammo has to be in it's own factory case.

>>35120071
Honestly, I dont think anyone in the process knows whats actually happened or suppose to happen so they just say 'meh, its locked' and let it go. I have never flown with ammo though, and dont intend to.

also when you padlock the hard case literally lock every single available loop so they would have to destroy the case to get at whatever you put inside

use real padlocks and keep the keys on you at all times

>>35119137
Most of the funny ones revolve around knowing airline shit so you probably wouldn't be amused. As for anything juicy stories I'll say this, don't be married and go into the airlines. A Syrian woman almost cost me my marriage and the company does have a "no dating co-workers" policy. Although absolutely no one follows that, they can and have shit canned people using that as a reason

>>35119258
No.

>>35119903
>>35119970
this. the reverse side of that orange card here >>35117318 is what i signed declaring the guns weren't loaded

i get the feeling that the fine details vary depending in the airline

>>35119903
>>35119970
here, i took a pic of the reverse side.
this is what i had to deal with on my United flight from Tampa to San Francisco - i'm this guy >>35117318

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>>35121027
fuck.
pic related

>>35121034
>>35120515
>>35119258
Is a magazine not a container designed to hold ammo?

>>35121047
IIRC theres something about being sealed in a sealed box. So, loose ammo in a sealed pelican is a no no, in a factory sealed box in a pelican is all good. Mags are not sealed so, designed to hold ammo isnt really the issue.

You could look up a dude called Deviant Ollam who has a few talks on YouTube about flying with firearms. Actually has a few good talks on lockpicking and security also

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I just got off my flight with my gun, actually. OP, once you check-in you just declare you have a firearm, show that it's in a TSA-approved case, show that it's unloaded with NO MAGAZINE INSERTED, sign a little postcard sized form (pic related) which gets taped on the case. That's it, it takes about 30 seconds and it goes in checked luggage. Any ammo needs to be locked as well.

I've only gotten issues once when I was moving from NY to TX and checked in my entire arsenal.

>>35121250
By the way OP, I was on Southwest Specifically from a flight from MCO (Orlando) to Houston. The procedure is basically the same for all airlines though.

>>35121034
>>35121250

Welp, fuck me, guess you might have to sign something. Planning on flying again with a pistol over Christmas so we'll see if I get lucky a third time.

>moving from NY to TX and checked in my entire arsenal.
Jesus, I cant imagine.

>>35116761
I've flown on delta and southwest with my sidearm several times on business trips... never had an issue. Just declare it at the check in counter and it's good to go. Watch the bags with southwest they will put it with all the other bags...delta will hold it for you at the baggage claim

>implying you're going to hurt a gun
FTFY

unless its a show gun who gives a shit, unless you bought your gun to never shoot it like everyone here

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How do I fly with a silencer?

>>35121404
Quietly

>>35119258
>>35120515
>>35121047
>>35121127
For domestic US flights you can have ammunition in any container that prevents it from rolling around loose in the case. I flew last month with 5 loaded Scorpion mags, 2 loaded FNX9 mags, 6 loaded M1 Garand enblocs and a single speed loader of .357 in my case and the TSA didn't give a single fuck.

The limit placed on the amount of ammo is weight based as far as I am aware. The limit is 5lb of ammunition per weapon case not counting the storage containers.

>>35121404
Not a firearm so no need to
Inform TSA I would assume. Then again I would just fly with a firearm and put it in the case with the firearm. That way 0 chance of it getting lost or stolen

>>35121552
> I would assume
Nope, wont assume. Thanks for trying tho.

> That way 0 chance of it getting lost
Yeah, 0 chance of loss. kek.

It's not a huge deal. I fly with a starting pistol quite often to prevent TSA employee theft of things I have to travel with for work.

>>35121762
>>35121762
u wot?

>>35116761
MAC did a video on traveling with a firearm, look it up. I did it recently, the experience was kind of interesting.

>Flying from AZ to CA, brought my LC9s to carry
>Had it unloaded, locked in strong case that can't be pried open, and ammo in it's original packaging (a reloading container is more secure)
>Declare firearm to American Airlines desk lady
>She gets visibly upset, tells me I can't check anything in because you have to do it 45 mins before the flight
>It was literally 44 mins before, probably was 45 or 46 the moment I began checking it in
>Puts me on the next flight which is 5 fucking hours from now
>Waddles over to the TSA office with my case
>The TSA retard mumbles something in white trash
>I literally do not understand him and ask him to clarify
>"That doesn't answer my question! Does deeba doo dee doop de doo?!"
>"Uhh, yeah it's in a locked container..."
>"Alright then, is there anything in here that can poke cut stab derp derp do me?"
>Goes through my bag, removes case, doesn't check the locks but runs a swab around the edges and tests the swab (to see if it was an explosive I guess)
>Gives bag back to lady

>Trip back, in a California airport mind you
>Declare firearm to desk lady
>She's familiar with the process, asks me each safety question on point
>My seat wasn't assigned, she gives me an exit row seat (dat extra leg room)
>Says i "look like a good candidate for it" (since you're responsible for getting the doors open to evacuate people)
>Just takes the bag, then that was it I was on my way

The whole thing was mind boggling. I was expecting the CA airport to shit their pants that I brought in a gun, maybe even get questioned as to why I had brought it (I'm legally allowed to carry in all states so I'd be good)

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>>35122042
>Says i "look like a good candidate for it" (since you're responsible for getting the doors open to evacuate people)