USP General

>same size same thickness USP45 = 12 rounds, HK45 = 10 rounds CA compliant
>USP45 is known to be more reliable
>can upgrade the trigger on the USP45
>only neg is no rails but that can be fixed with a $40 adaptor
That's all I can recall off the top of my head.

I'm really torn between the USP .40 and the .45. I have faggy girl hands and I'm thinking the 45 might be too much for me.

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USP45 Tactical is generally seen as the best variant. They're all pretty good variants if you don't want to go for a Tactical.

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>>35113560
The threaded barrel alone is $289 on HKparts, for what that's worth. Only reason I didn't spring for the tactical is the standard target sights. I'd swap those for the meprolight set immediately, and that's just more cost on top of an already expensive handgun.

If you have a suppressor or are waiting on your stamp, just get the tactical. Otherwise get the standard and feel free to spend the difference on magazines.

>>35113631
>$289
Jesus H. Fuck wait for a sale, I got my threaded barrel for $120 in June.

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>>35113631

Not OP, but my plan is get a plain fullsize USP in .45, then send it off to HK to get the full match trigger installed by them.

The LGS tried to sell me on an HK45 as well as a fullsize USP .45, but the finger grooves, 10 round mag capacity, lack of match trigger, and higher price put me off from it.

>>35113980
Gunbroker the USP, you can do the trigger job yourself, it's piss easy plus Youtube. Get a threaded barrel with appropriate recoil spring, and some night sights. Boom, you have just successfully avoided having "Tactical" stamped on your slide.

>>35113560

Why bother getting a USP when the P30 (which is essentially USP2) is available?

Just for outdated vidya nostalgia?

why not a mark 23 OP

Get the match trigger kit direct from HK Webstore, they have sales all the time. I remember getting it for like $75 a few years ago.

>>35113595
Honestly even the 9/40 may be too much for you. They're wide bricks.

>>35113631
robertsontradingpost $150

>>35113980
>finger grooves
Guessing you didn't hold it. The P30 and hk45 may suck dick at everything else, but they are the most ergonomic design ever developed. I can't let go of mine.

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>>35114016

Torn between snagging a USP online or at the LGS. I have an old good quality Beretta shotgun I haven't shot in 7+ years to trade in at the LGS to eat most of the cost offline, but I can also go online and save on state sales tax and the general cost.

Problem is that I'm in the way of Irma, so I'm playing it by ear and seeing how bad the damage from Irma will be before seriously purchasing a new gun.

>>35113560
There is no reason to buy a non-Tactical USP.

>>35114035
Not OP but I'm leaning towards a USP over a Mark 23 because I have this feeling that I won't like the Mark 23 enough to justify it costing way more, and because it seems comical for anything but raking in cool points.

>>35114076
Not having "tactical" stamped on the slide is a big plus.

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>>35114073
>Problem is that I'm in the way of Irma, so I'm playing it by ear and seeing how bad the damage from Irma will be before seriously purchasing a new gun.

I placed an order for a USP45 yesterday online.
I live in Miami, lol.

>>35114109

Good thinking.

>>35114016
>>35114103
you are literally the only person who thinks this

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I like nines

>>35114109
You think its going to get there in time bro?

>>35114190
It's coming to my FFL on Tuesday. Should be fine.

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i like my expert. fun range gun

>>35114035

My gf would use it to shoot me for spending that much on a gun. Trust me I'd love to get one.

>>35114016

Found a few on gunbroker for 499. Is the general consensus around here that gunbroker is good?

>>35114239
>My gf would use it to shoot me for spending that much on a gun.
You're a fucking cuck. Holy shit.

>>35114239
Yee, GB is the kitties titties. I lucked out with my USP and won it in a no reserve bid for $510 AND it had an M2 UTL on it plus two mags. Just inspect the pictures and don't hesitate to ask the seller for more pictures.

>>35114246

Tbh senpai 2k is a little ridiculous for a handgun.

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love my USP 45. i don't feel much of an inclination to buy any other .45 now.

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>>35114286
But it's so nice, anon.
And since we're on the subject; is this really the case they sell the Mark 23 in? It barely fits in there. I thought they were trolling me when they first brought it out at the lgs.

I want one other .45 to complement my existing boat anchor. I can't decide between getting a more reasonably sized USP or going even bigger than the boat anchor with a Mk23.

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>>35114315
fuck, wrong pic.

>>35114325
i came

How big an increase in quality do get for the large cost increase you get for buying a HK compared to a glock or CZ

>>35114507
I don't really think you should compare CZ to Glock are HK. One makes competition guns that need to be babied and the other two are pretty tough in comparison.

>>35114317

Same boat as you.

Got the USP Expert in .45 and its right up there in size with the Mark 23, just a bit smaller. So I'm planning on getting a two tone stainless compact in .40

>>35114559
My thoughts were to get the 45 Tactical so I could see if I liked the platform.
If I liked the USP series enough to go full autism, I would get a Mk23 and a Compact in .40 to get my Solid Snake and CIA larping on.

>>35114522
Yes, I agree. Any gun that kBs from piss poor chamber support to help it feed reliably and afterthought caliber conversion is not in the same league as a CZ or HK.

>>35114721
What's the nitriding process like on CZ 75s nowadays?

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>>35114729
If you really want to get into a race to the bottom, look at yourself, fanboy.

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>>35114743
I'm not a glock fanboy. I hate them and CZ and would never own one. I haven't seen anything about brand new glocks being rusty though, fanboy.

Look for a used usp, I found my USP45c for $650. Barely used much since it was a display gun, not pretty since letterings rusted.

If you don't mind .40, a lot of .40 cal guns are being sold off by the truckloads at stupid prices since a lot of people follow military/federal agency procurement religiously and FBI dumping 40 for 9 has set the used market of .40 guns ablaze.

Also, USP's just look good. I know there are a few front serration tacticool faggots on here who can't think up an argument for front serrations other than
>muh press check and racking where rear serrations are out of order duuuuuuuurrrrrrrrr

But seriously, a lot of front serrations kill the lines and aesthetics of a gun and when you got cash and desire to spend for a USP, you're 70% spending for the iconic looks.

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>scrapes around for a used HK
>does dumb shit like care about the word "Tactical" and whiteout the markings, painting "HK" red
>muh durrability!11
>never actually discusses the usage, carrying or even shooting said HK pistols extensively
>unironically wants to own a MK23
>assumes some sort of superiority over other people
>who actually shoot their guns

This is the state of HK owners on /k/. Disgusting. Cokefag is the epitome of you shitbirds, what a shocker.

>>35114896
>can't afford HK
>find fault and justify self shit by claiming they don't shoot their guns

If you fags really think HK is expensive, you haven't even set foot into the world that is custom 1911's. Shit gets real retarded, real soon.

>>35114896
>doesn't want to own a Mark 23

>>35114940
>If you fags really think HK is expensive

Except I don't.

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i have a v3 p2ksk, i was wondering if you guys could help me. there is a weird issue with the trigger. when i dry fire for example on da, after the hammer is fired, the hammer is kinda loose or has play. when i pull the hammer back and go into sa, then hit the de-cocker, the hammer is back to normal in da, no play. is there something wrong with my trigger?

>>35114960
then what's the problem? Anyone can get a taste of the USP line and it's overhyped aspects, then realize it's not really that amazingly flawless of a gun and actually outdated and not very "ergonomic".

>>35114032
I don't think the p30 comes in 45. Otherwise yeah, you're right. I'd suggest p2000 for carry, though.

>>35114032
HK45 is current 45 line
P30 is current 9/40 line
VP9 is striker fire line

>>35114896
>>unironically wants to own a MK23
>>assumes some sort of superiority over other people
The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents.
T.Salvador Dali, Mark 23 owner (if he were still alive)

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>>35114016
what's wrong with the tactical on the slide? I kinda like it

>>35115491
Is it really that bad? I don't plan to suppress anytime soon but I still like how full the slide looks with Tactical on the slide. then again USPs are cheaper without the tactical. hm

>>35114016
And then spend 200 more to install the match trigger.

Boom, 1500 dollar investment that you will never get back because there is no "tactical" on the slide.

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Just ordered a police trade-in USP 45 last night how fucked am I?

>>35115810

Depends if the cop worked in a black neighborhood or not. If he did it probably was fired many many times.

Also where did you find it senpai? I've been looking for one.

>>35114195
I..is your FFL going to be there on Tuesday?

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>>35115142
Hey what do you think about the Omega Professional Man on the FUCKING Moon. Thinking of getting a used one for a daily driver so I won't scratch up my Datejust, plus I always wanted a big 42mm watch without having to buy a divers.

>>35115871
Laugh if you want, but MAC had them for sale last night, and I managed to snag one. He still has some cheap USP 40s if you're interested: https://coppercustom.com/handguns-pistols?product_id=951

>>35115810
I would have ordered one but they don't shit to Commiefornia.

Does anyone have any experience with both striker fired pistols and HK LEM? I like the idea of having no safeties or decocker levers but was wondering how they compare to something like a glock trigger. I'm thinking of a p2000 lem or gen 3 glock 19 as carry options. The p2000's ambi controls and keeping a thumb on the hammer when holstering are the most attractive features of the gun.

>>35115990

Fug I would have preferred that to gunbroker desu. How often do they get them in stock?

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>>35116005
It is nice for Appendix since you can hold down the hammer when holstering. That being said the LEM might as well be SAO without a safety since it is a very light pull. There is a V4 if you want a heavier DA pull, which is easier to explain to a jury.

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Does anyone make a Weapon light holster for the USP in any caliber? Doesnt matter what light. This is all that's been keeping me from carrying my USP 40 instead of my Glock 17. I'm thinking I should just give up and cop the G Code appendix holster and pocket carry a handheld flashlight.

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>>35116486
i carry OWB in a safariland 6280-932
fits 9, 40, 45 with utl

>>35116019
It was a batch of police trade-ins, so there's no telling when they'll get more. AIM Surplus had some a couple of months ago, but they sold out in a few hours.

>TFB
>with the success of USP9 Tactical HK is considering a USP10
Why not a fucking VP10 or an HK10? Why a fucking outdated gun like a USP10?

>>35116889
Outdated gun for an outdated cartridge kek

>>35115512
Lmao what?
>500 + 200 = 1500
$150 barrel, $100 night sights, $80 match trigger set.

>>35116889

because it would need to be built off a .45 frame more than likely, and the USP is much more marketable than the HK45.

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>TFW haven't had a USP in 7 years
I'm tempted to get another fullsize .40sw again if I see a cheap trade-in pop up.

>>35113560
>buy USP in .40 shit & weak
>buy aftermarket barrel that isn't made of the amazingly strong steel the h&k barrels are
>bring barrel to talented gunsmith
>"could you bore out the camber to fit a 10mm please?"
>pay dosh
>modify mags to work
>you now have a great handguns in a great caliber
Congrats

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I bought a USP Expert as a range gun and just to check off the list that I finally own an HK gun. Not a fan of the euro mag release at all though.

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>>35117496
.40sw and .357sig isn't that bad of a round if you just think about it like ++P 9mm, which it basically is. 10mm is comical to shoot though, until the nerve damage sets in.

If I get the .40 would everyone make fun of me? I'm super self conscious.

>>35117619
Even your gun will make fun of you.

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>>35117627

okay..

>>35117619
People like to jump on the .40s&w hate wagon and thats fine and dandy. I still remember seeing ammo on the shelves in that caliber during the Sandy Hook shitstorm.

I wouldn't recommend it as the only pistol caliber cartridge to have your guns chambered in but it wouldn't hurt to have at least one just in case.

>>35117619
>If I get the .40 would everyone make fun of me? I'm super self conscious.

Just remember the Glock 35 is the patrician's choice in a .40. The USP was designed with .40 in mind so it's not that big of a deal. Same goes with the M&P.

>>35117435
>500 dollar USP

kek

>>35117698
Gunbroker and trade ins.

>>35117698

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/692658319

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/691983616

What's wrong with these? Granted with shipping and transfer fees it would be more like $560.

>>35117544
If you make a 10mm USP, not only do you have a fuckin 10mm USP, but you have a .40 s&w one too. As long as you buy a separate barrel. 10mm for memes and novelty, And. 40 for practicality.

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>>35117698
>kek

kek indeed my good man

>>35117830
buy it now is at 600 and the other one has no bids.

Duty used with one mag.

>>35117853
Duty used and sold out in hours. Realistically 600 used.

>>35114063
>Guessing you didn't hold it.
Well that's great, for your hands.doesn't apply to everyone, which is why grip panels became a think in the first place

>>35117452
MAC still has some if you don't mind giving him your shekels:
>>35115990

>>35117853

Where bruh

Does anyone know why the extractors all get discolored and rusty-looking? I've seen this on more than a few HKs mine included, but it just seems hit or miss

>>35117903
Copper Custom and AIM Surplus had them, but they're gone now. Just pay attention to their social media and email newsletters. These and stuff like the surplus Belgian Hi-Powers always sell out in a matter of hours.

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>>35117903
copper custom. Sold out in hours.

>>35117919
The paint chips off and exposes the heat treated metal underneath.

think SVT plum blots

>>35117890
>for your hands
It's really not subjective. The vp9/hk45/etc are human-shaped, the USP is brick shaped. It is one of the only things they fixed correctly.

>>35117538
It will grow on you. Try using it with your pointer finger and thumb. If you still can't get used to it then head over to hkparts and get an extended release.
>>35117957
I owned a VP9 and it was comfortable, but I find the USP to also be comfortable. In fact the USP is the one I am best with.

>>35114286
stay the fuck away from uspsa then senpai

>>35117899
Appreciate the heads up, but by the team you pay shipping and even small FFL fees, you could prob find a trade-in or well used one locally for the same price. I'd honestly rather pay $50 more than bring business to Tim. That guy is a dildo.

>>35117954
Comrade! What are you being doing! Put blot back in rifle!

>>35117954
So the coating just doesn't stick to the meatl? I don't really mind, kind of gives it some flair. I got nervous because my gf's PK380 is slowly rotting from the inside and it started on the extractor.

>>35113595
Go to range, rent gun, shoot gun

>>35118002
>uspsa

Does the A stand for autism?

>>35118029

What did this guy do to get this rep?

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>>35118029
The $30 shipping was a bit much, but I figure this was my best chance to buy a JewSP without scrounging around my LGS which are also staffed by dildos. And yes, I agree that it's stupid to donate money to a grown man who owns a small business so he can afford to buy and shoot the guns you want.

>>35118088
>What did this guy do to get this rep?
Mostly just the e-begging and shilling for IWI and Turkshit or pretty much any company that offers him an expenses-paid overseas vacation. The prices from his gun store are really inflated as well. I don't see how he stays in business except from selling to dedicated fanboys. I have bought guns from him before, but never anything that wasn't exclusively through him. There's no reason to buy any off-the-shelf guns he carries.

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>>35118088
Shilling then trying to deny it, be annoying, offering bland content, generally being an unlikable dildo, constantly referencing is 4 years in the peacetime USMC like it means something, giving positive reviews to relatively shitty products (byproduct of shilling), having such a punchable face and hate worthy demeanor to everything he does, having shit prices at his little ghetto gun shop. I could probably keep going, but he's that generic, easy to hate ass clown you'll find at most ranges and/or gun stores.

>USP9C for carry, home defense, SHTF and Jack Bauer memes.
Y/N?

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>>35113980

Is that Noa Izumi or Leona Ozaki???

theyre basically the same character anyway...

i want to smell them both uwu

>>35115986
i made a mistake... should've bought the sea master

>>35114896
>never actually discusses the usage, carrying or even shooting said HK pistols extensively
Its a "modern" DA/SA that been on the market for almost 30 years. What is there to say at this point. Its not merwin & hulbert or H9, the ins and outs are pretty well known

>>35116889
Because the USP has a well deserved reputation as bomb proof and its basically a barrel swap and a new follower for HK.

Plus the recoil system and the fact that the USP was supposed to be a 10mm from the start

>>35117957
Again, they fit YOUR hands better so good for you.

>>35114760
>>35114760
>>35114760
what do you have against CZ?

>>35118088
>unironically making fun of uspsa
you sound like a scrub

>>35119159
People here love to hate CZ because Reddit and MAC like them.

>>35114182
What's the deal with the barrett slide? I could buy a usp9 in ausfalia but I'm hesitant. How do you like it for sport shooting?

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>TFW I finally shoot my USP9 slide on the 40's LEM and jet funnel frame
>TFW I realize how amazingly smooth it shoots
>TFW I need to switch from my .40 to my 9mm now for competition
>TFW I just bought five .40 jet funnel mags.....

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>>35120711
Also, since my USP9 will be my new limited gun

>Getting the USP40 slide cut for an MRDS
>Extended ported 9mm conversion barrel
>Match weight to shroud the ported barrel and add weight at the muzzle
Open division, here comes the HK

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>Used Full Size H&K USP .45 ACP for sale on jewbroker.com
>$499.00
>This_is_relevant_to_my_interests.jpg
>Seller must collect sales tax from the following states: FL 7%, GA 7%, TN 9.25%, TX 8.25%
>Shipping $29.95
What is the point?

>>35120918
Are you retarded?

>They should just break the law!
>Why do I have to pay shipping?!
>OMG a transfer fee? What the fuck goy?

>>35120918

It's still probably less than what you'd pay at a shop for a used one.

>>35115142
What pen is that?

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>>35113560
>lgs has a USP .40, used for 400
>really want a new gun, always wanted a USP
>not sure I should be concerned for the low price/used condition
>not sure if I should fall for the .40 meme

what should I do lads?

>>35121229
BUY IT!!! USP's don't wear out

>>35117619
Get it, let people make fun of you, then convert it to 10mm auto

>>35121281
You are full of shit. I fell for the police trade in meme.

>>35121395
Pics or get fucked, you're full of it.

>>35121406
Why the fuck would I keep a broken gun? I traded that piece of shit for a P09 and it was better in every way. Even for the 30 rounds the USP did work. HK wanted to charge 200 plus shipping to fix it.

>>35121416
Yeah, no, that's a crock of shit.

>Can't specify what was wrong
>Sending a used gun to the manufacturer

0/10 try harder

>>35121446
FTE. Call HK on monday, they do repairs fucktard.

>>35113582
The HK45 grip is MUCH smaller than the USP45 grip.

>>35121471
I'm saying you are an absolute retard for trying to send it to them, and since nobidy should be that stupid I'm calling BS on the story.

>FTE
What ammo?

>>35121493
Federal 230 grain ball. Nice spacing.

>>35121535
You couldn't troubleshoot something that simple? It's literally one of three things, two of which are easy fixes.

Since we're talking other HK guns, is 1,200 a good deal for a SAR-3? A friend of mine is ditching it for a FAL build. Original box and a couple mags including a 30 round one. It's not an overstamp or the shitty aluminum receiver ones. I'm really leaning towards getting it since I've wanted a G3 clone for awhile and wanted to see what else was out there besides a PTR. Phone posting so I'll try and get pics soon

>>35121551
I really don't care anymore. I found out that USP reliability was a meme. The gun has no ergonomics. The capacity is shit and the trigger is mushy. Taurus has better triggers. Got an omega trigger with 19 round factory mags and full size conceal capability. HK is a joke.

>>35121608
You seem like a dipshit.

>Uses 'meme' over and over
>Can't figure out a USP (one of the most user friendly guns to work on I've ever owned)

Yeah, you're a bit of a spergy tard aren't you.

>>35114843
a certain store by a certain Youtube has police trade-in USP45 and USP40 for $485 and $395.

Mine will be here next week. Can't wait to compare it side by side to the FNX-45

>>35120269
Mine is an australian cop gun, imported by barrett
It's nice. The DA sucks balls. I might go full tactical.

>>35118978
>>35117957

>>35121446
Different anon but I don't see anything alarming there. My trade-in USP had wornout mag springs which caused lots of hiccups. If something breaks, HK typically honors their warranty no-questions-asked, unless it's clearly a user fuckup. They will happily work on used guns.

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>>35121490
Who cares about the fucking grip when the overall thickness is the same. Not only that but whatever fucking material they used to make the HK45 is fucking garbage, at least the USP45 doesn't have pieces of polymer breaking off.

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>>35114896
>he doesnt want the pistol that took shadow moses island
its like your trying to be retarded

>>35114522
>>35114721
>I don't really think you should compare

Thats why its hard for me to figure out what a good first 9mm.

>>35119515
They are also overrated.

>>35121229
They are probably one of the best .40s, but I feel like the newer HKs besides the VP40 are actually better. USed doesn't mean much in the HK world, get it refurbished if it really bothers you.

>>35121416
You are full of shit.

>>35121490
Only around the LOP, which is why I didn't buy one.

>>35121608
>The gun has no ergonomics.

Oh look another mouth breather on the internet with no idea what ergonomics means.

>>35121558
Yes. Do it or forever be an idiot and regret it for the rest of your life.

>>35121608
Lmao. You crazy kids will do anything for attention. Here's your > you
Run along now little faggot

>>35120711
Won't .40 mags run in a 9mm?

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>>35121608

>>35122041
>Who cares about the fucking grip when the overall thickness is the same.
Maybe a scrub would say something like that, but anyone who wants to control the gun while shooting it knows that it's important to get a firm, confident grip on the gun.