What are some tell-tale signs of a novice shooter?

>>35113056
They post on /k/

>>35113056
chick lean

flinching on each shot.

>>35113056
Police uniform.

>>35113070
FPBP

Leaning back, poor TD, poor muzzle discipline, don't keep back from the line during ceasefire, anticipating recoil, shooting too fast, cup-and-saucer grip, too close to the scope....

>>35113099
kek

>>35113056
They make threads asking what the telltale sign of a novice shooter are.

Nervous about beinh found out by people you embellished your abilities to at the range this weekend you little shitlord?

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>>35113099

>>35113056
They make thinly veiled posts on gun message boards hoping to find out things not to do to look like a novice shooter at the range.

>>35113056
>Draws, then adjusts grip
>Adjusts grip after every shot
>Pulls trigger too fast, releases trigger too slow
>Shoots, looks over sights, shoots
>Runs out of ammo, goes to shoot another shot, flinches
>Only trains by standing still and shooting stationary targets
>Goes on /k/ and acts like an elitist because he knows the very most basic fundamentals like don't point your gun at people, don't lean back, and don't teacup

>teacups it

>>35113108
what is cup and saucer grip?
t. a novice shooter

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>>35113252
Here. It's the wrong ones.

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>>35113056
Uses a glock

>>35113266
The two wrongs was the same faggot.

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>>35113252
>>35113266
Also forgot, it's commonly called "teacupping"

It's bad

Here is another example of proper gun control. You push into your non-trigger hand, not sit the weapon on top of your palm, which does fuck all for recoil control, I don't care if you're gripping hard or not.

>>35113270
This only leaves me wondering wtf they could be looking at that's more interesting than a slavtrooper...

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>>35113056
Low grip
Proper high and tight grip isn't something kids learn from playing Call of Duty

>>35113266
I actually use my off hand thumb to cover my main hand's thumb.

>>35113305
>slavtrooper

thats a hiphop trooper bro get your facts straight

>>35113266
Just because there's a new "favorable" way to do something doesn't make the old way wrong. Different people do things differently because that's what works for them.

>>35113056
Anticipating the shot. I'm guilty of this still even though I've been shooting guns all my life. My cuck ass anticipated the shot of a fucking AT-4 and made the rocket slam into the ground maybe 30 feet in front of me

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>teacup grip
>hand too low on the gun's grip
>both thumbs wrapped around the backstrap (bonus points for scabs from slide bite)
>flinching, can't keep all the shots on the paper
>is able to make a group on paper, but it's all grouped to the left/right/above/below the bullseye
>can't control the gun's recoil, readjusting grip between shots
>has no plan to get the sights back on target after each shot, instead looks at the target and then decides to shoot again each time
>leaning back while shooting any gun (chick lean)

>>35113402
>the old way
The teacup grip is solely an invention of movies and TV.

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>>35113056
that thing they do re-gripping their support hand after each shot. they don't build a proper grip so they have to replace their left hand each time the recoil knocks it off the grip. I fucking hate that shit so much.

>>35113056
I probably looked like a novice the first time I shot at a civilian range unless they saw my groupings.

In the military, Infantry 4 years, they tell you to 'unload show clear'. So we'd eject the mag and hold the rack back as the RO walked by and looked inside your ejection port.

The civilian place said to 'clear your weapon and place it downrage'. So I didn't lock it back, just ejected magazine, did a brass check, and laid it on the table. That's when I learned you lock it back, then lay it on the table.

I saw people looking at me like I must be a newbie, just was my first time on a civilian range and they do things differently.

>>35113056
It's hard to describe but you can VERY easily tell when someone isn't 100% comfortable with the gun they're holding. The way they handle it is just different.

>>35113056
They say the offensive handgun concept isn't viable.

>>35113056
Side bar: was in a gun store today and this gentleman was there with his son (<4 y/o) and so his sons running around and what not. Then for some reason the dad sits the son on the counter while talking to the owner which the owner was fine with (they knew eachother). The dad then basically allows his son to play with his new glock and his son literally pointed it directly at me and said pow pow and tried to pull the trigger. I walked away to another isle and hear the dad say "no (kids name) don't put your mouth on that (gun)." jesus fuck

>>35113882
Once you tell them to maintain their firing grip with their strong hand while operating the gun with their weak hand about 100 times it starts to sink in.

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>>35113402
Cup 'n' saucer grip is basically shooting with one hand. The support hand is just supporting weight. If that's your goal, then, sure, it's not "wrong". But if your goal is to shoot two hands because it allows the maximum control over the pistol, then it's plenty wrong.

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>>35113056
Visible unfamiliarity with guns, too gentle with guns, poor posture/weight distribution/grip/trigger control, shooting before they're ready, Weaver stance, not having the upper body strength to support the gun, holding the gun too close, holding the gun too far... the list goes on.

Posture and technique are the basic giveaways.

>>35114208
>Weaver stance
yeah, nah, get fucked mate

>>35113056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH-SQG7hAVg

>>35114327
That was... wow..

>>35114327
this is why i am glad youtube has demonetized

>>35114327
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lwRVkl0zQ
Holy fuck. I haven't even watched this, just the title is bad enough.

>>35113266
if you can't tell this is a troll image

They draw their pistol and fire in more than 2 seconds

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>>35113483
This.
>has never worked from concealment
>doesn't own a shot timer
>cannot meet a trivial baseline of performance (i.e being able to hit a 3x5 card at 7 yards on demand)
>tries to gain knowledge by skimming through panteo videos, religiously preaches that one Pat Mac video
>does not prioritize things like a drawstroke, getting a proper and consistent grip
>does not use a consistent, scoreable target, shoots dirt
>tries to impress people with what they can't do
>>35113723
>that thing they do re-gripping their support hand after each shot. they don't build a proper grip so they have to replace their left hand each time the recoil knocks it off the grip. I fucking hate that shit so much.

The actual term for this is called milking the grip

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>>35114327
>>35114365
>>35114383
>>35114480
Just realize that this is the majority of people who conceal carry. /k/ is no different either.

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>>35113700
I love the unit

>>35114327
Is she a little bit retarded?

>>35114480
>obligatory pink 'lel im a tuff gurl' accessories

>>35114515
I feel like... and this is just a feeling... that autist /k/ommandos are generally going to be more competent shooters than boobtubers.

>>35113723
Who is?

>>35114596
>I feel like... and this is just a feeling... that autist /k/ommandos are generally going to be more competent shooters than boobtubers.

Nope. Most of /k/ isn't as good as you think they are. Shooting is also a very small portion of conceal carry, most people here couldn't even tell you just how fast they can clear their cover garment and get a shot off at something like a 5 inch circle at 7 yards.

/k/ is more of a gun collecting/gun enthusiast board and there isn't anything wrong with that. Actually shooting, taking classes and shooting competitively is something out of the left field for most people here.

>>35113056
too much thought into trying to look kool.

>Chick lean
>Flinch every shot
>Scared of recoil
>Complains about recoil on things like ARs or AKs
>No TD
>Regularly muzzles people
>Can't hit the broad side of a barn at 20 paces
>Teacupping
>Dropping the gun when they fire it
>Can't quickly figure out how to work the firearm they will be using
>They talk about the things they heard on the news about x gun
>They talk about "shooting that in a video game"
>Babying a nugget's bolt as if they're worried about breaking it

>edgy teens doing mad minute
>magdumping
>shoots only muh grandpu gun

>>35114719
>been shooting for a decade and a half
>magdump and bumpfire through my 40 round pmags every time I shoot at the WML range

>>35114719
Mag dumping is only a sign if you can't hit shit while you do it even when trying to.

>>35113266
Wasnt teacupping the grip of yesterdecades? I mean, theory hasy changed a lot since then, but if someone trained under it and trained to proficiency with it, it's not "wrong", just "outdated".

>>35114748
teacupping is adequate for accuracy bad for follow ups/soaking up recoil
its more of a revolver thing too since a modern thumbs forwards grip is incompatible with revolvers

>>35113056
they miss...
not holding the gun correctly...
failure to keep the gun steady when squeezing the trigger...

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>>35113402
That's not the "old way" though. This is the old way. It's how I shoot my Hi Power too.

You are still applying pressure with your support hand, what's "new" is the cocked wrist thumbs forward grips, and while it is the best, it's not the only way.

"tea-cupping" is only used by hollywood gun grabbing faggots.

>>35114327
made it 2 minutes before i was yelling at my screen

y u do this 2 me, k?

>>35114496
Wut

>>35114327
HOLY SHIT! Flinching this hard and blaming the gun!

>>35116066
Natural Selection

>>35113056
The easiest one is the way they hold their weapon when idle. With a novice (or hollywood) shooter, It's the whole focus of their stance, versus someone who's spent hours and hours with the weapon and has a stance that will let them hold the weapon for a long time without getting tired.

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>>35113099

>>35114503
Don't repost those webms.

>>35115122
The old, old way is one handed.

>>35114327
i like her tits

>>35116403
I would argue that it's still probably not a bad thing to learn how to shoot one-handed.

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>>35114327
>royalty free music

>>35113266
to be fair the USP is awkward to hold because of the fuck huge slide stop.

>>35114621
I don't think the guy you wee replying too specifically had CC in mind with his comment. That video was fucking terrible. I've seen little old ladies with snub nosed .38s learning to shoot for the first time do better then that, specifically in regards to safety. I've also been to several /k/ meets and I've never seen any really unsafe or idiotic behavior from anyone. People generally know the basic fundamentals of shooting even if they are bad shots, they don't flinch like bitches or wave their guns around trying to figure out why they are getting FTFs every other trigger pull.

>>35113108
>cup-and-saucer grip

Do you mean teacupping? Look, I know you're new to this but you really need to work on getting the vernacular right. You also have to learn that you're not the penultimate authority on shooting. Just because you don't do or know a particular style or technique doesn't automatically make it a sign of a novice. Otherwise, you'd be doing silly shit like assuming that paper patch reloaders are noobs.

>>35113252
A grip style that used to be popular after one-handed shooting fell out of style. There's nothing wrong with it, other than it offends the living shit out of millenials. Not enough tacticool factor, I guess.

In teacupping, you support the bottom of your grip hand with your weak side hand. I suspect it evolved as the Weaver stance became popular.

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Friendly reminder that this is the ONLY correct way to shoot a handgun. Laughing my ass off at all these faggots who think they know better than the US military.

>>35116066
it's riley reid, a porn 'actress' holding a prop.

>>35113214
>only shoots pistols

Fucking fag

>>35117786
i'd discharge in her mouth

>>35113894
In what way I'd it viable?

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>sucking off youtube gun experts
>self contradictory statements passed off as reality
>x is perfect goys, so and so said so

>>35117785
Damn, the way those boots and pants look is very aesthetically pleasing.

This thread is so shitty, its just a bunch of idiotic /k/ people spouting off opinions of youtube personalities pretending they're experts
None of you know jack shit
the tell tale sign of a novice shooter is posting this kind of shit in this thread
god damn i am shaking my fucking head at all y'all, just werent raised right

>>35114208
Broke my right shoulder years ago, have to weaver stance since arm cannot be outstretched enough to do isosceles. Assumptions are bad anon

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I judge people by their groups. They fall into 2 categories:

Super elite expert shooters who shoot better than me.

Total nubs who have no clue who don't shoot as well as me.

It's a fine line some days.

>>35118028
>I judge people by their groups. They fall into 2 categories:
>either I do my best to suck them off
>or stare at them condescendingly as cum dribbles out of my mouth

Number one reason for gun suicides by novice shooter Liberals: They think every gun comes with a scope, so they look down the barrel and reach out and pull the trigger.

>>35113056
is that reily reid or just a girl that really resembles here? reverse google image search gives me "women's clothing" fuck those faggots for not giving names of people anymore it wasn't always like this. dumb artificial intelligence

>>35116003
the center image shows a guy touching the slide in two places with his fingers and hand. He's going to get slide pinch if he doesn't drop the gun after breaking his hand.

https://youtu.be/r573VYk88eM

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>>35117604
>t. Teacupper

Never masturbates. Only cums from sex.

>>35114208
There is literally nothing wrong with the Weaver stance.

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>>35114208
>weaver stance
this better be bait

>>35118759
lol got um

>>35114498
If it's a 40-50m steel popper shot. I can understand

>>35114327
>>35116609

I'm going to subscribe

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1. Calls NRA rifle stance "chick lean" even though it is objectively the most stable and accurate standing shooting stance there is.

>>35117604
Penultimate means "next to last" or "second best". But you knew that right?

>>35117785
It's called a hand gun, not a hands gun amirite?

>>35113056
they own a .40

>>35119632
That must be one weak ass shooter to rely on that "stance"

>>35113214
>Only trains by standing still and shooting stationary targets

to be fair unless you live in the sticks and can shoot in your backyard its sort of a pain in the ass to find a place that lets you run around and shoot moving targets.

>>35119742
Could shoot IDPA/IPSC/USPSA, or whatever local action shooting matches there are.

>>35117785
It's a lot easier to shoot fast and accurate two handed but if you use a pistol for self defense and don't practice one handed shooting often you're doing it wrong.

>>35119726
Fight me

>>35119737
Yeah not really. When you're shooting in the standing in a non combat simulation and you're scoring accuracy then that stance is perfectly fine. Every qualification I shot standing like that. Obviously you don't train shooting like that in a fast paced combat style shooting event.

>>35119737
Way to expose your newness. Skeletal support is more stable than muscular support, especially over long periods of time, like a service rifle match is.

>>35119737
spotted the noguns

>>35113056
they say stuff like

I am a novice shooter

>>35113483
>The teacup grip is solely an invention of movies and TV.

Look at some pics of LE or Mil range training from the 50s and 60s. Even into the 70s, teacupping was how they trained. It's what came about after 1 hand shooting started to lose popularity, morphing into Weaver and isosceles-style shooting.

>>35114327
>that flinch
fucking hell she's basically shooting with her eyes shut

>>35118759
Sometimes, yes. I also do single hand shooting occasionally. Every now and again, I'll do weak-side one hand grip with my Redhawk, just to see how well I can do. Target loads only, I'm not a masochist.

>>35119680
Context I was trying for was "near final". Like "not quite the peak, but real close" kinda thing. You can do semantics to make me wrong if it makes you feel better.

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>>35113214
>Calls shooting "training"
tell tale sign right here. This is number one

>>35114327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14pdp1D9stw
it's like poetry

>>35120748
OK, thanks for correcting me.

>>35114529
that's just her hick accent, I deduct about 15-20 IQ points when I hear an accent like that.

>>35116389
I saved and will be reposting at some time in the future so fuck you

>>35121353
think he fucked here?

>>35121579
You're a scrub and are not welcome here.

>>35121614
what's wrong with posting those webm's?
it's not like you can make out anybody, just a buncha dudes at a meetup what's the big deal?

>>35121579
Post more of them please

>>35121637
It's not cut correctly, theres another set of the same webms but cut correctly

>>35119781
That's not everywhere either. I'm not the guy you replied to but there's only 2 ranges within an hour of me, and only one has any kind of competition, and it's a long range precision comp.

>>35120829
lol

>>35121882
That sucks. Even though I live in Canada, every outdoor range (4) within 2 hours of where I live offers some sort of action pistol/rifle shooting.

>>35117931
TFW the military will never look this good again.

>>35113266
How to loose your thumb to a large cal revolver the meme

>>35121600
He doesn't know how to work his stick so he had to ditch.

>>35119632
What do you expect? If modern /k/ shoots at all it's from a bench.

>>35117604
>you really need to work on getting the vernacular right
>>35120829
>You can do semantics to make me wrong if it makes you feel better
Pick one.

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>>35114529
>Is she a little bit retarded?

>>35113108
>too close to the scopes
>MY EYE

I can hear it now...

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Ignore that guy >>35114603. Who is >>35113056 ?

>>35113416
I do it too, even with my marlin model 60
Oddly ,not with scoped rifles though.

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>>35114327

>>35113056
Mag dumping

An unwillingness to help and teach shooters not as familiar with guns.

Elitism.

>>35120177
Incorrect only intermediate shooters say they're a novice shooter.

>>35117723
Nah, brah. Teacupping is proper revolver form. Its improper for on semi automatics.

>>35114529
She's pretty awkward, I've watched a few videos of hers and she seems kinda socially retarded. She does stuff most socially awkward people do. Kinda makes me think she was just in it for the money.

>>35114383
>youtube has demonetized
They did what now?

>>35113056
The feeling of that pointed lead projectile entering the back of your skull while you have your back to them.
Dead giveaway. http://www.armslist.com/inside?utm_source=c000032&utm_medium=plink&utm_campaign=p394691

http://www.armslist.com/blog/opinion/california-25-years-later?utm_source=c000032&utm_medium=plink&utm_campaign=p394691

http://www.armslist.com/blog/gear?utm_source=c000032&utm_medium=plink&utm_campaign=p394691

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>>35117785
Practicing our finishing moves I see.

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>Chick lean
>complaining about chick lean without knowing about the "bone on bone" stance and correcting chick lean.
>Complaining about chicken wing

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>>35113056
they bait readers in their thread by posting women in their OP

>>35114603
aigell on reddit

>>35114327
https://youtu.be/3BOs_y6Sel0?t=1m42s

>>35113723
How does one improve grip? My grip is as high as possible, my thumbs are forward, but my support hand still gets knocked away by each shot. I get that it's bad but how do you improve it? My hands are not small btw

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>>35114208
>Weaver stance

What could possibly be wrong with Weaver?

The only reason isosceles is popular is because the military/police use it, and they only use it because if your wearing chest protection it presents the largest frontal plate to the target which increases the chances you get hit there, whereas prior to the use of armor the one handed stance was popular under the logic that it presents a narrower and thus more difficult to shoot silhouette, Weaver lets you use both arms and have the same effect.

>>35117785
That must be why I keep seeing competition pistol shooters use that stance.
Oh wait..........

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>>35113099

>>35126156
Omg the video for this is hilarious

>>35113214
>Runs out of ammo, goes to shoot another shot, flinches
am i an asshole that i'll purposefully load a dud somewhere in the mag to show people what they're doing. Generally before it they wonder why they're such bad shots, so i load a magazine for them >:D

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>>35113266
It's it just me or is every grip in that pIcture Shit? Why not have left index in front of trigger like pic related

>>35127184
Holy fuck boys, its a fuckin' samsquanch!

>>35127241
i laughed way too hard at this.

>>35127184
that grip only works with glocks

>>35113099

The fucked up part is this is actually pretty true. Never met a cop who was better than mediocre.

>>35113483
>The teacup grip is solely an invention of movies and TV.

When my grandfather was in the Marines in the early '50s they taught either teacup or one handed.

>>35127347
what makes you say that?

>>35127607
years of experience

>>35127628
care to release any information that actually indicates anything?
what i've gathered so far: a standard grip only works on glocks because i say so

>>35121637
Every single one of them is edited so the webm ends right AFTER the beginning of the next scene of a montage someone edited together. It took a lot of work to get the clip edited so badly, and yet faggots repost them as if it's completely normal for clips to have bad editing.

>>35127184
You can exert more pressure with your fingers, the less they are spread out when gripping something.

>>35127738
every professional shooter, instructor, military, police, spec ops, etc accept eric grauffel and angus hobdell

>>35127107
No that's a good piece of training, i wish i had a range buddy to do that for me

>>35114327
bewbs

>>35114480
she's entertaining and has a pleasant demeanor. subscribed.

>>35127848
Well, since you still haven't explained why, I guess I'm the wave of new methods for you

>>35127890
I would do that for you buddy
Or would I? Who knows when it will strike

>>35128880
>new methods
>tried out in the 70s/80s and found not to work

>>35113108
Teacupping is proper form for revolvers.

>>35118709
Alot of shooters hold their thumbs halfway on the slide. If your gun isn't loosely assembled, jangly trash, it won't pinch you and happens so fast you don't even feel it. I shoot my cz with my forward thumb almost at the top of the slide and have never had an issue. It doesn't work for all guns. But it's not retarded at all.

>>35119726
This only clarifies that they are a nigger.

>>35121561
I had a chinese plastic surgeon patch up my hand and had the same accent. Played Johnny Cash during the procedure.

>>35121353
This is what hot girls that are too stupid and crazy to marry do for money. Is it so wrong to expect attractive women to get real jobs?

>>35122540
Kekd hard

>>35124198
>Acurracy is the only requirement for self defense
You're gonna be in for a real big surprise when jamal shows up with his extendo

>>35126141

you mean the olympic ones that shoot custom 22 caliber pistols with their elbow locked completely out and a blinder over one eye?

I feel like that's a very specific situation that doesn't translate well to practical application or non-anemic pistol calibers.

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>>35113056

>>35129540
Theres way better pictures of this. Why did you post the worst one? Why did you save it more importantly?

>>35127890
Just randomly load multiple magazines then switch them all around like tumbling them in a box. Then you don't know where the blanks are going to be.

>>35122501
A guy let me shoot his Redhawk once, like ten minutes later I notice my thumb is cut open. Thankfully it was just the skin

>>35113056
>"I have never taken a firearms class"

>>35128937
can someone post the russian prooofs chicken

>>35114208
>shitting on weaver stance
>literally just basic fighting stance
>not having every fighting style based on strong side foot being angled to the side and place back about 12 inches
>not also having a slight bend at the knees for if you need to move soon
isosceles is for sport shooting.

>>35127347
*trigger guards with flat fronts
so like all the good full size pistols

>>35113347
I usually do this, but been playing with using left thumb to press against cz75 frame. probably gonna tap it and install a gas pedal to press on the left side.

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>>35114523
SUCK MY UNIT

>>35114523
>that teacup

>>35124215
I really hate elitism in the shooting community. It intimidates new shooters and detracts from the overall experience. Personally I love teaching my friends to shoot; they always have a great time and it's a lot of fun

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>>35114327
>eyes fully shut
>gun goes bang
>goes into autistic seizure
Crippled Christ on a crooked crutch that was funny.

>>35114523
Fuck earplugs and eye pro who needs that shit? Not these dudes.

>>35128215
I don't subscribe to any one on YouTube. But I will keep watching her videos.

>>35122837
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

>>35122837
>pick one

Why? The two aren't incompatible. They mean different things. Learn words.

>>35114303
>>35117977
>>35119104
>>35119233
>>35126110
>>35129801

But muh competition/tactical youtubers/mil & LEO shooters! Muh hole in my body armor I never wear except when I LARP REEEEEEEEEEEE!

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>>35117785
*cough*

>>35129571
Well, with hands this small, holding pistol like a rifle might be a good idea.

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>>35114327
Women shooting was a grave mistake

>>35113330
I don't know how anyone comfortably holds a gun like that. Hell, first time I picked up a handgun I held it proper. (I also ND'd it into the floor, but that's a different story. thank god it was the sticks and a .22)

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>>35113056
>"So you want to try out and shoot one of my guns?"
>"No, because guns kill people!"

>>35113070
my sides are into orbit

fpbp

>>35134228
HAHAHAHAHA
I just saw this LMAO

>>35126110
Because it provides more control over the gun in every aspect. The reason LE/mil use it is because competitive shooters do, not the other way around. You'd know that if you shot any sort of action pistol in the last 20 years.

>>35126071
Need stronger hands. You can also torque your hands into the sides of the grip. Ron Avery has articles on it and grip strength training on Tactical Performance Center. I think it's also called the Vogel grip.

>>35115122
>fat hands

>>35114327
Please, someone tell me what gun range this is, so I will NEVER go there! Jesus. Some of the stories I hear about range officers being little Hitlers, where's one of those guys for this place?

>>35117785

Go home grandpa

>>35135000
I treat range nazi stories as stories told by unreliable narrators. I've heard horror stories about the ranges I frequent/am a member of and have never experienced it first hand. Kind of like stories aboyt places with poor service.

>>35134815
This. I grip high af and focus pressure at or above where the slide meets the frame. I like to think about it as controlling the barrel instead of just gripping hard in general.

>>35135251
That sideways inward pressure is also how Jerry Miculek can fire a .500 S&W without his strong hand thumb wrapped around the grip. It's wicked useful.

https://youtu.be/nOzyqiT1FFA

>is SUPER autistic about the "best" stance, grip, draw, and choice of handgun but cannot shoot accurate for shit

>>35114503
>cannot meet a trivial baseline of performance (i.e being able to hit a 3x5 card at 7 yards on demand
There's people that can't do that?

>>35117785
>lets test nukes on our own people and equipment at bikini isles

Pretty sure I know more than all of those lads combined

>>35135352
What if i told you most gun owners couldn't.

>>35135413
Knowledge is power.

>>35135278
Thats fuckin crazy control

>>35135352
>implying /k/ actually owns guns

Talks a bunch of shit about how good they are.

Every time.

>>35113056
Plant 'em High Never Die; Plant 'em Low Never Grow.

>>35117931
Those are shoes and spats, not boots.

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>>35127184
That used to be a pretty popular grip (minus the weak thumb up) in the 60's and 70's. Custom guns would have finger grooves added to the front of the trigger guard to facilitate it.

>>35131991
>A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
Consistency is the bedrock of rational thought.

>>35132049
>Why? The two aren't incompatible. They mean different things. Learn words.
If anything I was being generous. Getting picky over an equivalent variation on the same damn name and then turning around and trying to excuse using completely the wrong word which means something else entirely is hypocrisy of the highest order. He seeks to judge others on the basis of insignificant differences, yet seeks to be judged by so loose a standard that he says one thing and means another thing entirely, yet expects to be given the benefit of the doubt.

>>35114533
>need accessories
>they come in pink
>get them in pink because I like pink
>don't get black just because some fuckface thinks they're girly memes
I'm a guy, too. I buy shit in my favorite color, and you can go fuck yourself with your bizarre expectations of tacticoolness.

>>35134713
Competitive shooters do retarded impractical shit all the time to get better groups. Might as well start using ultra low power loads so you can land accurate headshot groupings within 4 seconds. And add a compensator to your cc because you gotta mitigate that recoil boy.
Might as well defend your home with those ergonomic .22 pistols too, you know they're good because oylmpic athletes use them.

>>35136616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K--kQAmbV1w

>>35136651
He provided more of an argument then you did, mate

>>35127184
Thats how my old man grips a pistol and hes pretty accurate with his M9. He taught me the "old ways" (modified weaver, grip similar to yours, etc) and like a faggot i didn't listen and went with what YouTube showed me. After trying his method my natural point of aim is much better and my groupings have improved.

>>35127738
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

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>>35128946
I think you must be mistaken, unless you shoot better than Jerry

>>35138024
sooooooooooooooo
you still actually don't know anything?

https://youtu.be/ChSazF41q-s
>There are people who take advice from anybody other than Jerry Miculek
Plebs, all of you

>>35136442
>Consistency is the bedrock of rational thought.

Leading to such enlightenments as the belief that the earth is flat and at the center of the universe.

>Getting picky over an equivalent variation on the same damn name

Not even close. Vernacular and semantics have virtually no common ground in their meanings. I'll give you the wrong word point, I should have said jargon or idiom. So sue me.

>>35140075
He's dead.

>>35114327
>hollow points at the indoor range
just seems wasteful really, also
>inb4 this bitch shoots herself or someone else

>>35114523
yeah dude headshots only #tacticool #operatorstatus #highspeedlowdrag

>>35140290
He's still alive and well...

>>35127241
TPB references much appreciated

Who cares.
Novices practice, if encouraged, and become not-novices.

As long as they follow safety rules and are practicing to get better, they're doing more than 90% of /k/ that stashes ammo in their basement and lubes their never-fired AR's.

Safety and putting rounds on target.

>>35136616
Way to make it obvious you don't practice shooting in any meaningful way.

>>35119737

Lol.

>>35115122
Try pointing both thumbs forward. Right on top of left

>>35113056
Bigger hook on the bang lever

>>35140075
Maybe I dont want to shoot like him.

t. Man who had a dad show him instead of YouTube

>>35117785
MOM GRANDPAS ON THE COMPUTER AGAIN

>>35125497
This right fucking here. When I shoot my full sized rifles I break my wing out.

>At a range
>shooting standing and kneeling
>SA58 FAL and M16A1 Clone
>Winging it and not squared with the target because I'm not shooting a M4
>Obviously .mil from haircut
>Some NCO from the same base starts talking to me about how you're supposed to square off with your target because muh plates blah blah train as you fight what unit are you in muh ruger AR15

>>35145389
I hate faggots like that.

>at ease sergeant

>>35133994
Couldnt even go 5s without nding
Lmao

>>35129911

Does that make it go faster?