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redpill me on the mini-14. New gun to be released in PUBG. if

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redpill me on the mini-14. New gun to be released in PUBG. if it's good i'm gonna buy one
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>>35109380

Don't. They're shit.
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>>35109380
Don't waste your money on one and take your kusoge back to /v/.
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They're great rifles, and don't let the inevitable flood of assblasted AR fanboys that are going to invade this thread tell you otherwise.
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>>35109380
They're shit, not as shit as an M1A though.
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>>35109380
>redpill
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>>35109380
It's shit and overpriced
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worthless unless if it comes with the stainless steel folding stock

then it is non-worthless
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good gun but desu not really worth the price. If you can get one for $400-$500 its worth it.
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>>35109399
>>35109403
Is it better than the SKS? The SKS is a pos in this game. I want to like it but it's so bad
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>>35109429
someone pls aware me on what furniture this SKS has. i wanna be tacticool too
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The Mini-14 has the best trigger on the market. Its very existence triggers hundreds of spergs on /k/ who are endlessly butthurt that any viable alternative exists to their cheapshit AR builds.
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>>35109407
Ayo hol up
So what you be sayin' is
*jams*
The Mini14
*doesn't hit paper at 10 feet*
Don't be like it is
*rivets pop barrel wiggles*
And is a good gun who done nuffin wrong?
*falls apart on the trip from the house to the range*
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The mini 14 was the first time I was more accurate than the gun I was shooting, which is terrible because I am the biggest mall ninja range loser in Texas.

They are crap.
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if you want to buy an overpriced piece of shit in 5.56mm just buy an AR-15
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>>35109380
They are fine guns as long as you understand you will be paying more for an objectively worse AR-15
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>>35109443

Crapco stock.
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>>35109457
>Ayo hol up
>So what you be sayin' is
>*jams*
>The Mini14
>*doesn't hit paper at 10 feet*
>Don't be like it is
>*rivets pop barrel wiggles*
>And is a good gun who done nuffin wrong?
>*falls apart on the trip from the house to the range*
Literally all bullshit. The "inaccurate" memes come from old versions of the Mini that haven't been made in a decade. I've put hundreds of rounds through mine without a jam - try cleaning your guns sometime and maybe you'll get the same results. As for the other shit, there's just literally nothing to that except you pulling it out of your ass.
>>35109465
Again, have you tried firing one that was made this century?

Look, OP, it's simple - people who don't own a Mini have plenty of bullshit fuddlore reasons not to buy one that they heard thirdhand at the range or on teh intarwebs. People who actually own one, love them.
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>>35109429
>nobody puts SKS with wood furniture and internal mag in their games anymore
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>>35109492
>>35109482
>>35109465
>>35109457
But the Mini-14 looks WAY better than even your top tier AR-15s
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>>35109510
all it has is wood furniture and you can make a wood AR if you wanted to
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>>35109510
They look even better with a wood handguard installed: http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/HandGuard.php
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>>35109526
>>35109531
this is now a mini-14 appriciation thread. AR posters need to leave
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>>35109628
>posting a rabid anti gunner
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Pity those folding stocks are so expensive and uncommon. You'd think someone would have made a similar stock by now.
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>>35109429
>scope rail going over the sks action
that gun would jam each and every shot
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>>35109413
you realize that redpill is from the matrix and only recently was coopted by edgy teenagers on /pol. Morpheus is goddamn black for christ's sake.
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>>35109380

at one time they were a cheaper less liberal intimidating AR alternative

But now they are a more expensive less liberal intimidating AR alternative
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>>35109380
i like mine. anybody that doesnt like them has never even seen one let alone touch one.
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>>35110336
That and the entire story is (rumored) to be about the wachowski brothers' being traps..

Unless they went full on, and had the surgery, in any case, it's hilarous that /pol/ uses that reference in the first place, because muh irony
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>>35109457
The one that I shot was new, it jammed on cheap ammo while the $500 ar did fine. You are delusional.
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>>35110447
That's retarded. Is Cloud Atlas about one time they went to the supermarket?
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>>35110472
>the one I shot was new
>it jammed
Huh. Imagine that.
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>>35109380
It's okay at best. You'll like the idea of it until you shoot it and other things and realize it's mediocrity for its price. . Now fuck off back to whatever hole of a board you came from.
>>35109510
Oh. Fun. Confirmed for shit taste, too.
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New to guns and gun culture.

Is the mini-14 the hipster's choice of gun, instead of the more normie choices of AR-15 and AKfags?
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>>35110589
kind of. its mainly for fudds and people in communists states.
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>>35110416
Is that a fucking S&W 915? 10/10 early 90s greyman operator combo. Would take mercenary work with and roll around in a tricked out 1983 GMC Vandura.
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>>35110589
Nothing normie about ARs or AKs. There's also no such thing as a hipster gun; a gun is whatever you want it to be. For example, I might think my ar is an anthropomorphized anime girl, but chad down at the range will think his ar is just something he shoots with his friends.
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>>35110615
Is there an actual hipster rifle? Edgelord choice?
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>>35110650
preban foreign assault rifle-esqe guns.
Daewoo k1/k2, SG556s, euro bullpups, mini 14 but only with folding stock.

battle rifles that dont usually have wood furniture as well.

this is all my opinion though.
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>>35109380
Depending on where you live, its primary advantage is that it may be one of the few .223 autoloaders you can get.

That said, it is less superior to its competition in almost every way:

> More expensive than a basic AR15
> Heavier than a basic AR15
> Less accurate than a basic AR15
> Less furniture options than an AR15
> Less optics and accessories mounting options than an AR15
> Less barrel/customization options than an AR15
> Less mag options than an AR15
> Less reliable than a basic AR15 (especially with steel cased ammo).
> More expensive than a basic AR15

If you want one to add to your collection or because you like the looks then go for it. Otherwise, it has nothing but disadvantages against the competition.
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can all of these bad things about the mini-14 be applied to the mini-30 as well?
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>>35110753
Mostly that it doesn't seem to like steel case very much from what I read.
That said, I love them.
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>>35110753
Actually, the mini 30 is even worse:

> Even less magazine options
> Even less reliable with the steel cased ammo that makes 7.62x39 appealing to 95% of the people out there.

There are tons of videos on youtube with the mini 30 only firing 1 out of every 3 rounds because the steel case primers are too hard for it to ignite.
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>>35110794
>>35110793
so theoretically if I had some non-steel cased 7.62X39 the mini-30 would work well. Also do you know what makes the mini series so inaccurate like people are saying they are?
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>>35110818
comes from older mini 14s that would get inaccurate after heating up too much. not so much of a problem with newer ones but keep that in mind if your decide to buy used.
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>>35110818
Correct, they are generally reliable with brass ammo but brass ammo is literally 3x-4x the price. Why would you do that to yourself?

As for the accuracy, I dont know for certain. They are generally considered inaccurate (3+ MOA) guns. I dont know if its barrel quality or inherent to the design itself...
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>>35110818
also just read this. prices are dated but still good info
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>>35110910
I only asked because I thought my dad had a huge stockpile of brass ammo but turns out it was steel, guess Ill just get an AK or another sks
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>>35109380
Mini 14's are okay guns that came from the 70's and 80's desire for a .223/5.56 rifle that could be owned by civilians for plinking or for varmint hunting, as well as police and military.

The folding stock was on the Ruger AC 556, a full-auto version of the Mini 14. it saw limited production and was used by some smaller militaries and by PMC's in Africa, mainly Rhodesia and South Africa, as well as the Congo. It got badass points from being featured on the A Team(They were going to use an M-16, but couldn't get one that reliably fed blanks). See pic related >>35109419

From there on, the Mini sorta had a life as the "Alternative" to the AR-15. For awhile, it was an affordable, fun rifle that was accurate enough. I believe that it was allowed to be manufactured and sold through the AWB because Bill Ruger was a fudd who agreed with banning Salt Weapons, so some states let him sell the Mini 14 with a 5/10 round magazine.

Fast forward to 2017, and the Mini 14 is outclassed by even the most basic bitch AR-15 you can find. There is honestly little reason to get one, unless you just want a woodstock rifle that shoots 5.56 or 300 blackout, and are okay with paying out the ass for spare mags.

Accuracy is "good", despite what anon's say. You won't be hammering nails at 300 yards, but you'll have fun blasting paper at the range. With factory magazines, the gun is reliable, so long as you don't dump mud into the action. I found that, in a hurry, blasting a dirty Mini with CLP can get it to function. It will also freeze up in extreme cold.

So, is the Mini 14 good? Yes, it is a good rifle. It's a pretty little thing that shoots well enough and will last a long time. There now exists a decent market for parts, barrels, sights, stocks and magazines. If you want a plinking rifle and are okay with spending more, you will enjoy it.
AVOID the Mini 30, though. It can't shoot cheap steel ammo worth a damn.
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>>35109509
Squad is the only game I know of that does.
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>>35110991
Not OP, but I wish more people provided concise reviews like this. Thanks anon.
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>>35110818
Older Mini 14's had a thin barrel that would heat up after repeated firing, as well as the impact of the Bolt on the barrel when the hammer hit the firing pin. This can be corrected with an accu-strut, but newer Mini's are far more accurate out of the box. Most still slap on a barrel strut for looks.

The mini shoots brass ammo just fine, it's ammo that has a berdan primer which gives the Mini 30 problems (I.e Tula, wolf, ect.). People found that installing a Wolf extra power spring works well, but not perfectly.

The problem lies with the firing pin. It doesn't protrude far enough to reliably ignite all berdan primers. There are three solutions to this problem, however;

1) Only buy brass cased 7.62 and learn how to reload.

2) Go to a gunsmith and ask if they can modify your firing pin to protrude out far enough(I think 50 thousands of an inch?) to reliably ignite your primers.

3) Buy an after market firing pin, and have a gunsmith install it and make sure the pin protrudes far enough to ignite the primer.

All in all, don't get a mini 30. It's a problem child of a rifle that will take a lot of money to get it to work, let alone the cost of mags and parts.
and I know someone who got an after market firing pin, and they had a gunsmith install it so it
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>>35110991
thanks for the info, guy
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>>35110991
Best review here. But my mini 30 shoots anything you throw in it. I think the biggest problem with them is a wide spread of quality. Both of mine have never given me trouble besides breaking an extractor after a few thousand rounds. But I've shot some that do jam like a bitch every 3rd mag.
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>>35111067
>who got an after market firing pin, and they had a gunsmith install it so it
TELL ME!
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>>35111067
fugg
-install it so it would shoot steel. It worked for a few years, but the pin wore down, and he ended up just selling it.

I own a mini 14 that I shoot steel through all the time, never once had a issue.
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>>35109380
They're a good 3rd or 4th rifle
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>>35109429
I'll never get a SKS because I can't stand the duckbill mags
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>>35111141
Just use the stripper clips you fucking faggot.
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>>35109380

The new ones are good, especially the tactical models. The heavier profile and shorter length of the barrels takes care of a lot of the old models issues. They also did some tweaking to the gas system, I picked up one in 300BLK and it's fun to shoot.
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>>35111184
No thank you grandpa
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>>35110991
Excellent review, thank you anon. Just saw a video today about this rifle, so I was itching for this information.
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>>35111016
What is rising storm 2?
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>>35110336
This. I wander onto Return Of Kings every now and then for the lulz and it makes my sides ache how they use redpill so much, either not knowing or not caring that 2 now transgenders wrote it for a movie where a female kicks more ass than most of the men, and it was bankrolled by a Jew. Kind of shits on their world view and I laugh at it.
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>>35109380

The factory folders are nice, but I fund this hard to beat for aesthetics.
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>>35111184
Speaking of stripper clips, how hard is it to mill in a stripper clip guide into the rear bridge, or a make a separate piece like the M14.

I would fancy a Mini-14 if it were more like a 5.56 SKS.
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>More aesthetic than AR
>More reliable than AR
>More accurate than AR

get one dawg
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>>35111241
How lazy can you be?
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>>35110991
Some things I wanted to correct/add in on my little rant.

>The folding stock is incredibly rare, often costing as much as the rifle itself. I've seen some go for $700-800 in good condition, without any parts included.

>I think Magpul makes Mini 14 mags for $15 that are reliable. Beats the factory ruger mags that can go for as much as $40 each.

>I said the Mini 14 was exempted in some states, but that isn't true. Because Bill was friends with those who crafted the bill, they basically exempted it in the federal AWB. Currently, the Mini is a good alternative in states like California or New York, where Salt Weapons are banned/restricted.

>Police departments, in the process of upgrading their inventory, often auction off their old Mini 14's. They're often the old as fuck and have some scuffs, but are kept in good condition, and usually go for around $400. They're a great deal, if you can keep an eye out.

Otherwise, you're more likely to get a good deal on a used mini at a gun show. I've noticed Gunbroker auctions tend to go a bit high for some reason.

>Mini 14 can shoot steel, but the 30 is iffy. Some never have an issue and eat it like candy, others are picky. If you're getting a 30 new, it's a coin toss. If you're getting a 30 used, it's more than likely not reliably feeding steel.

>Some have started making stripper clip feed ramps for the Mini's, meaning you would only need one good magazine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOjAWijgru8
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>>35111303
>Subjective
>Nope
>Nope
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>>35109380
its a little m14 thats uses 223 rounds
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>>35111290
I think the 582- series of Mini's can take a aftermarket stripper clip.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/F6F44ACLP/mini-14-clip-guide-582-usgi

Otherwise, you're better off talking to a local gunsmith.
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>>35109429
>WHATPARTOFRIFLEISFINEDIDTHEYNOTUNDERSTAND.JPG
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Mini-14s are great guns if you judge them by their own merits. ARfags are just the most autistic people in the gun world so they get absolutely buttblasted when someone dares look at a .223 rifle that isn't an AR.
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>>35111283
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>>35109380
The new models of the mini 14 are great rifles for up to 200 yards and if you live in a scary rifle van state they're a great option /k/ doesn't like anything in that caliber that's not an ar
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>>35109429
>sks pos

sub top 500 player detected
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>>35110991
>>35110794
You're just talking out your asses now. My 583 series Mini Thirty ate 20 rounds of Red Army Standard steel case HP without a problem. The only issues I had at the range were a few misfeeds from my new magazines. Pic related. Where are the supposed "light primer strikes"?
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>>35109380

If and when Ruger comes out with a Mini that feeds from the common M-16 mag, I'll buy another.

As in "A fourth, Mini 14".

Til then, even as a former Ruger employee, "nope".
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I wonder what would it take to modify an ar mag to be usable in a mini.
I really want straight mags that work all the time.
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>>35109670
>Anti gunner holding a gun designed by a Anitfun Fudd
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mini 14 is alright but honestly it is outclassed by the AR platform now... even the keltec su16 series probably is in a way better

the newer mini 14s are better than the older ones but they still are unergonomic and use proprietary mags

on the other hand an AR built on an ares scr platform lower, or even a hideous fudd style stock are better in fudd states and flat out better in normal config in other states

THAT ALL BEING SAID, not everything has to be the "best," to be enjoyed
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>>35109380
You know, my customers (back when I was smithing) were a Mini-30 buying bunch of fudds, and I never head of one- one - instance of afailure to fire.

Where did your friend get an oversized Mini-30 firing pin, exactly?

Sure, Ruger seems to rush them out the door these days, but the Mini isn't that bad of a platform.

Does it use AR mags? No, but unless you completely replace the mag catch and "rock to seat" mag well, it smply isn't going to happen.

Is the mini as accurate as the AR series? No- direct impingement is truly a superior way to build a gas-operated rifle. The incredible twang the gas system puts on the barrel is the root of the Mini's accuracy issues.

A friend of mines father used to hunt with a 180-series mini, and his would put three shots in about an inch and a half at 100 yards, and he brought home deer and pigs all the time.

How about a reality check: How many people lost firefights due to being armed with a mini and three mags?......


Nobody?
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>>35111779
>unergonomic
>then goes on to say that the scr, with it's similar grip style is better
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> Mini-14 thread.
Oh boy here we go.

I'm gonna cut through the crap. I've owned 3 different Mini-14s over the years and I made the outdated guide posted above.

Basically, they do work and are a viable alternative to the AR-15.
They do not excell nor are they good value now that ARs are so cheap. However, if you just arbitrarily like them and you don't mind spending the money for the sake of having something different or you just like them then buy one.

Things to consider:
-Spend the extra dollar on a new model or a GB police trade-in. The thicker barrels don't fully eliminate the heat stringing accuracy problems but they make a huge difference.
-New models have shit tier rear sights. Replace with tech sights or run optics.
-All of them, especially old models are sensitive to cheap shitty magazines. Gun show 40 rounders are a bad idea. Factory mags are expensive but usually work perfectly. Tapco gen 2s are cheap and tend to work great.
-Ammunition tends to not be a problem on 5.56 models. You can run the shittiest steel case crap all day. If your Mini-14 can't, something is wrong. Mini-30s struggle with hard primers, so an upgraded wolff hammer spring is good.
-Yes, they do shoot 5.56mm, even old models do. They are marked .223 cal, not rem. Target models with the adjustable harmonic dampers are .223 only, all others can shoot either or.
-Heat is a big deal. Don't swap on a stock without a heat shield. Also ultimak mounts tend to get stupid hot.
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>>35111901
>ignoring the mag release
>ignoring the bolt release
>ignoring the safety
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>>35111937
I'll give you one on the bolt release (unless you have the scr, which I think is still sold separately) but the mag release on the scr is pure garbage.
Safety is also shit on both the scr (crossbolt) and those weird as fuck stocks (good luck with those unless you pay for an ambi kind). Whether or not you think the M1 style safety is safe or not, it's way superior out of the box compared to those.
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>>35111937
> Mag release.
If you can run an AK you can run a Mini-14. It's just a rock in pattern. There are extended magazine release catches if the factory one is too small for your liking.
> bolt release
The entire op rod is a bolt release. Slight tap back and it'll fly home. If it doesn't it also conveniently doubles as a forward assist. There is a button for manual hold open as well.
> safety
Depends entirely on preference. I'm used to the Garand style safety. I like it because you can bring up the rifle, disengage and then begin firing immediately instead of reaching up with your thumb and then re-acquiring your grip. This setup is also inherently ambidextrous.
Now engaging the safety, yes they tend to be a little stiff.
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>>35109408
I owned an M1A and a Mini. I agree with this anon.
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>>35112067
you keep referring to the scr I only brought it up as an option to have a an ar in a fudd state without it looking totally fucked
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>>35111387
Holy crackers!
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>>35109380
>PUBG

Get the fuck out of here with that pleb shit.
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>>35111629
use google and look it up.

I'll confess maybe the newest 583 Mini 30's can feed steel reliably, but for years people have complained about the Mini 30 not reliably feeding steel.

Just because you're the exception doesn't mean all Mini 30's are God's gift to man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGlOvOv8UE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQA3gKNoXmo
Watch these or just google "Mini 30 steel ammo"
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>>35109443
Do this to an SKS and /k/ will hate you forever.
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>>35110336
>>>recently
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>>35112926
I've heard reports of post 580 mini 30's eating gold and silver bear ammo like candy.
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>>35111629
Try actual shit like tula or wolf and take a pic where you cant cover up evidence and then get back to us faggot.
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>>35112959
Barnaul and Red Army Standard use the same Berdan primers as Wolf and Tula.
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>>35110336
What is total recall
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>>35113021
this. /k/ is full of 12 year olds i swear.
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>>35109380
>buying a gun because it's on a video game

Isn't summer over?
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>>35109380
>Kar 98 uses 7.62x39
>Nagant revolver uses 7.62x39
>M24 uses 7.62x39

The devs like slav shit so much everything is chambered in 7.62.x39
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As much shit as the deservedly get, they clean up nice.
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>>35113065
>he doesn't buy the guns he likes
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>>35109380
>redpill
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>>35109429
The SKS is fine, but people need to stop treating it like it's a sniper rifle. It's a DMR, and should be loaded to rock and roll, not hide and snipe.
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>>35110447
>reference
It's a fucking reddit meme from when the MRA fags invaded during Gamergate.
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Shit is this going to cause prices to go up? I was planning to get one soon after my next levergat
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New 580 series minis are plenty accurate.

Pic related is at 50 yards with iron sights. Each square is 1 x 1 inch.
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>>35113117
yeah it's really dumb but it simplifies looting and the playerbase is fucking retarded and wouldn't understand
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>>35113117
Do you know how much of a pain in the ass that would be if you had to match specific calibers? It's a battle-royale deathmatch, not a survival simulator.
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>>35113117
>Nagant revolver uses 7.62x39

No fucking way
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>>35114684
Cheeki breeki, motherfucker.

>>35113117
They might as well have used .32 pistol cartridges, or just said fuck it, we'll have a Draco in it.
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>>35110794
Why didn't they just make it take AK mags?
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>>35114711
Probably the same reason the Mini-14 doesn't take AR-15 magazines.
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>>35114718
Judaism?
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>>35114306

they could have just said "rifle ammo" or "pistol ammo" if that was the goal, looks like they went full retard instead
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>>35113117
>VSS uses 9x19
>I won the entire thing the only time I found one
My friend bitches when he watches me play because "crawling on the ground like a snake" the entire match isn't a viable tactic to him. I also play exclusively first person.
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>>35109380
>Another 5.56 rifle in semiauto when every 5.56 can shoot in manual
>still no sawn-off for shootgun in pistol space
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>>35114720
Fudds
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>>35113117
Or alternatively the ak fires 7.62x51 because you know it just says 7.62 on the pickup. Better than having a million different ammo types and magazines to keep track of in a non survival game
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>>35114731
All the ammo types are pretty vague as is. 9mm ammo covers 9x19 and 9x39. 7.62 covers x39, x38r and x51. 45 could cover .45 Acp or .45-70 if they wanted. The only messup I can think of is limiting. The shotguns by calling their ammo "12 gauge" instead of just "shotgun shells"
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If you need to remove Italians, Haitians, Cubans, police officers, bikers, prostitutes or Lance Vance, accept no substitutes.
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>>35114745
Was spectating a friend in third person, he made top 10 just prone, snake in the grass, for the final few circles.

Even in third person people are shit at spotting prone in this game. One guy came within 10 feet of him and didn't see him.
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>>35114830

DICKS!

YOU'RE ALL DICKS!
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>garbage underaged noguns /v/edditor thread for a shit game still up
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>>35113117
I'll never understand why they chose Kar98 over noisy nugget in a game that takes place in Russia
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>>35114267
>4moa
sugoi desu-ne~~~
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>>35109408
>>35112629
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>>35109407
I have killed a few squirrels with them, but let's not pretend that they are accurate or reliable with steel cased ammo
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>>35110794
My boss has a Mini 30 that won't function properly with steel, and he bought it in 2013 or 2014
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>>35109509
Rising Storm 2
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>>35109448
When the Mini was introduced, it was like $400 when an AR was like $1200.

Now the Mini is $800 and a good AR is about $600.

>No reason for mini to exist anymore
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Decent guns, except I can't justify its price compared to other 5.56 rifles such as "muh AR"

A decent AR can go between $450~$700$. A mini 14 goes for at least $800+

AR has more aftermarket parts, and magazines are pretty much interchangeable.

If the mini 14 accepted AR mags... then I would consider. Unfortunately mini14 will disappear from the market save mini 14 fanatics.

Drop the price Ruger to $500ish, then we''all see.
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>>35115274
I had trouble figuring out where dead center was with iron sights, but it's certainly capable of 1 MOA.
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they're shit, but they're decent.
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>>35110447
>TFW the Redpill is oestrogen
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>>35116161
If I can do this with your rifle's great grandaddy, you're gonna need to step it up a bit if you want to convince us that's a 1 MOA gun.
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>>35109482

>$400 and up
>overpriced

How poor are you?
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>>35109510
"no"
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