Milsurp General /MSG/

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Life found a way.

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>>35107606
At my old place my squash used to escape the trellis and climb the lilacs.

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Link to last thread since it hasn't been died yet.
>>35079296

What should I put in my new crate?

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>>35107945
It says right on it what goes in it, Anon.

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>>35107994
But what if I don't have any .50?

>>35107945
Fruit.

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>>35107945
Either a cat or build a PC in it.

>>35108027

Next closest caliber.

>>35108027
Invest in one. You already have the box afterall!

Alright guys, I had $325.00 come my way, and with luck another $325.00 will be heading my way soon. Should I:

a. Get a CMP Garand if and when the other $325.00 comes in and scrape up the difference by selling plasma.

b. Buy a Mosin + spam can (I'm fairly certain I can work out a deal with a family friend)

c. Keep saving and keep my eyes peeled for a Russian Capture k98.

d. Buy a semi-bubba'd Arisaka my neighbors have (I mentioned it awhile ago, but I wasn't able to get over there over the weekend).

e. D, but for a K31, an M1938 Carcano Cavalry Carbine, or a Vz. 24.

f. Booze, whores, and gamblin'.

>>35108211
Wait, shit. I'm stupid. For e, I mean "C, but".

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>>35108211
Id get the k31. They're cheap for what they are, these will easily skyrocket in a few years. your other options are terrible by compairison.

bubba'd arisakas don't fetch more than $150 assuming its just butchered wood

CMP Garands are running low, they're at the bottom of the pile, iffy quality at this point unless you shell out the 1200+

Mosin and spam can is a minor thing, Mosins are cheap, and spam is drying up, but they're really not stellar.

Russian capture k98s are meh, its what you get when you can't play the German game

The carcano and vz are in the same boat, meh. The carcano will have ammo issues, and the vz is just another generic mauser.

>>35108369

Thankee. I wouldn't pay more than $75.00 for the Arisaka, and to my knowledge it's only been spray painted. The people who own it are idiots and repeat the usual fuddlore about them. They only have it because they got it for free, but I need to find a way to buy it for cheap without arousing much suspicion.

I'll probably grab a K31 in the end, but I'd like to get a semi-affordable M1 to keep my 03A3 company while the option still exists. The last show I went to, I was seeing Rack Grade Garands pushing or a little above a grand.

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>>35108211
M. Mas 36.

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Why yall fags so scurred of sanding these gook guns. This ain't so hard ya know.

Gunna give it the propa truoil treatment.

Go away

So, guys. The inside of my Mauser 93 bolt is rusted pretty well. Cleaned it out with Vinegar and scrubbed it out pretty well. But, especially when I got near the bolt head in the bolt body I was pulling rust out the by the papertowel patch load. And every interior surface of the bolt including spotting out the outside of it all. Should I be concerned about intgerity?

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>>35108796
I wouldn't worry about it. That end of the bolt body cavity is the most likely to get corroded because of leakage around primer cup and through firing pin hole, but also the bolt body wall is the thickest there, so it's not like you're losing a lot of material.

>>35108027
Store your ammo all neatly in that aweosme box.

I duracoated my Gewehr 98 OD green. Shit looks breddy sweet

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Alright for realsies. Does this look close to the Arisaka color to you? Obviously it will dry slightly darker, but I think i'm getting really close.


Stock is drying, I'll see how well it did in a few hours.

>>35109390

>Green
>Not FDE

Bro, do you even tactical?

>>35108942
Fair enough, still feels a little sketchy given how long that shit was likely there. But I'll give it a test shot, maybe tied to a tree the next time I'm able to go out shooting

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>>35109460
It looks fairly close. You're the anon with the duffle cut 99 right?

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>>35109804
Yup.

Picked up a few other abused rifles somebubba sanded down. Been trying to emulate the finish to the best of my ability. The color is the tricky part.

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>>35109878
Good luck with the restorations. Most of the ones I've seen run from light orange to a reddish color so somewhere in-between is fine imo.

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>>35109172
Not sure I can put all of it in there, I'm going to have to leave some out.

I got a new front sight for my M95 since it was missing one, but it's incredibly loose whenever I put it in. I can just slide it around with my finger like it's nothing. Anything in particular I can do to fix it?

>>35110246
Shim it with card stock or thin metal pieces or even take something like nail polish to build it up around the dovetail slots

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>>35109878
heres mine for reference

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>>35109986
Yea. The color itself seemed to vary wildly. I wish someone would publish a book on how rifles were made in ye olde days. I imagine the Japs in particular just used whatever Urushi they could and it was naturally orange-red

I've been trying to treat this like the art works, since that was 99% of the books I've been going off of. I think I'm on the wrong track there though. I've seen someone do furniture that specifically tries to highlight the grain. Not something they probably cared about for military, but its so stupid simple how the furniture guys do it I would imagine they would use the same technique minus the giant vats of boiling urushi the mil used.

>>35107559
Guys Im scared. I may get divorced and be forced to sell some of my surps....

pray for me.

>>35110414
Give them to a friend with receipt. Claim it was cash for the divorce paperwork.

Obviously friend is in on the deal.

Fuuuck 599 m48 yugo with 230 rounds of sniper ammo, sling and bayonet.... Help a bro out with money? xD

>>35108369
>k31. They're cheap for what they are, these will easily skyrocket in a few years.
is that a general statement for some reason unbeknownst to me or would that be a statement "limited" to the US market?

I'm a Kraut and I know someone who is sorta trying to get rid of his K31, and I'm sorta wanting to buy a rifle next month... not totally convinced though

>>35110463

Here in 'Murica they are relatively fresh out of primary channels. In Krautland it may be different.

>>35110459

Work some extra hours.

>>35110469
Therein lies the problem. I'm currently out of work. x.x

>>35110491
Wasn't really a serious request anyways. I know it's like nil chance, even for a newbie like me to get aid.

>>35110491
probably shouldnt be buying guns then

>>35107559
What do if my mosin bolt is starting to rust

>>35110388
>Shim it with card stock
I don't know why I didn't think of this, it's keeping it in place perfectly. Thanks anon

>>35110469
>In Krautland it may be different.
150-300€. Buuut 80€/100rnds PPU + 20€ s&h :/

>>35110491

Then fix that. Milsurp isn't a poorfag's game anymore, hasn't been for a while.

>>35110525

No Swiss surplus ammo? Can't take a train ride over the border and pick some up maybe? Swiss surplus is high quality and not that expensive.

>>35110518
Scrub the rust off if you can or use a little vinegar to loosen it up. Then just keep the damned thing oiled. Gun keeping 101

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>>35110520
Your welcome.

>>35110568
>Can't take a train ride over the border and pick some up maybe?
lolnope that'll get you in all kinds of shit with the law
they probably have actual manned checkpoints, mexican border style

If I buy bulk I can get it down to like 70ct/rnd. Which is still substantially more expensive than the classic rifle calibers like .308

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Why isn't any Milsurp cheap this is bullshit.

What gun are the poor supposed to buy

I hope all collectors rot in hell

>>35110640

Bah, that sucks. Well if money is a concern then that sorta restricts what you can buy reasonably...

>>35110648
Get a job hippie

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>>35110640
If it makes you feel better the US of A doesn't get that much of a discount either.

>>35110698
There are none

>>35110751
t. lazy millenial

>>35110568
Way to ruin something fucking light hearted man.

>>35110763
But there are no jobs.

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>>35110648
Nothing in this world brings me joy like the tears of the poor.

>>35110900
I've got a slot I've been trying to fill for over a year.

>>35110921
Why? Like how can you even look in the mirror?

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>>35110931
Did you actually read what you wrote?

>>35110936
same way you do, except his is probably nicer

>>35110048
Well damn. I guess you could sort all the loose rounds into smaller boxes of rows. Save some space and kill some time. But even after that you night need more boxes.

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>>35110931
What job are you looking to fill?

>>35110931
does it require skills and living in detroit?

>>35110931

Doing what?

>>35110931
you live in a commie state though. and have a stupid niche job.


>source my ass
I need to get an edumacation. I think I'm at a dead end unless i start my own business. I really want to do the parts kit import business.

>>35110921
I guess that's why you like Detroit?

anyone know where to gel 8mm lebel cheaper than s&g?

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>>35110931

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>>35110946
I can probably shuffle some stuff around. I got most of the new ammo cans during the July 4th Fleet Farm Massacre. The older 7.62 can in the back has a little rust in it, so I'm only putting some gun-related documents and my spent brass in that one.

>>35111233
You cant

>>35111314
guess my next purchase will be reloading equipment then

>$228 for 100 rounds each of 8mm lebel and 8x56

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>>35110936
Having been poor has made me all the more cruel to those who have not bettered themselves.
>>35110942
That was the least gay thing I could think of.
>>35110949
>>35110953
Furnace operator.
>>35111177
That and the great food and beer. Also I live in the burbs.
>>35110950
Is driving a fork lift a skill? And yes, you have to live relatively close by. But you can get there from the suburbs very quickly. Only takes me 15 minutes.

>>35111533
Spoiled brat

Let's cool on the animosity here guys. I know it's the internet, and it's 4chan, but simmer the fuck down.

>want German K98

>Too expensive now

>nowhere to be found but gunbroker for $1000

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>>35111879

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>>35111912
Are you threatening him?

>>35110921
This is what life is all about.
Being rich and laughing at poor people.
Or being in government and laughing at the electorate.

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>>35112031
Everyone needs to calm down. Sheesh...

>>35112031
Well shit. At least I'm being protected by another mosin Owner.

>>35111889
>German
>k98
???

Anyone got an M48 in the Pacific North West that's willing to sell for 300 to 350 after Christmas?

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>>35112104
If I'm being completely serious here I don't laugh at you for being poor until you're 30 (with exceptions). Part of being young is being poor most of the time, just because you haven't been working very long and don't have the professional experience or network to make more money. And that's assuming you want a life that requires a certain income. If you're happy living in a 1 bedroom apartment working part time, then who am I to deny you that?
>>35112125
Fuck you.

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>>35112137
Don't worry, comrade.
This being a mexican standoff, I have the advantage.
Voy a romper su culo.

>>35107559
Sell me on the arisaka type 99.

>>35112216
Well, either way I'm just gonna duck...

>>35107559
found an Enfield converted to .22 hornet at my new local small gun shop (the smallest I have ever seen, literally just a room, suprising amount of guns fit in there though) for $750. Seemed like a interesting addition to the collection, should I grab it?

>>35112314
Honestly, unless it's an original .303 or training .22 rifle. It's not worth 750.

really enjoying this full length m95

>>35112314
hmm fair enough, they got an original in good condition for $1000, new to BC totally so I thought that might just be the prices as everythings a little pricier. Ill have to look into these trainers and see if I can find some indicators.

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>>35112465
$1000 is over average for an Enfield. What kind is it?

>>35112465
Shit... Either that's a REALLY good condition Enfield, or they're over pricing.

>>35112502
Stop making me want your M48

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>>35112539
No

>>35112502
Didn't look too much into cause yeah that price tag through me off a bit, the wood was mismatched though which made me even more suspicious. It is a tiny ass mom and pop gun store, and is fancy expensive Kelowna BC.

>>35112579
Yeah, with that price you're getting taken for a ride.

>>35112572
Hnnnnnnnnng... Fuck you man

Anyone here have a Dutch Beaumont?

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>>35112612
I'm just getting warmed up.

What's the value range of Israeli K98s??

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>>35112667
>>35112502
>>35112572

>>35112667
Eh, I've got a dragoon.

>>35112710
from what little I've seen, they usually go for around $500-$800ish, depending on condition and if they have any Nazi markings on them. Probably on other factors, but I'm not that interested in Israeli K98s; I'm sure there are other people here who know much more than me on the subject.

>>35112762
Ok thanks for the input. I was thinking they were in the $400+ range depending on condition and various other factors.

I just want an 8mm mauser of any kind right now. Ammo's cheaper than for the mosin and more readily available. AND in brass rather than steel.

>>35112275
7.7 Jap is stout. The action is strong. It's a handy rifle that points and handles well. The bolt throw is smooth and cock on close. The sights are pretty good for the time and that full length handguard AESTHETIC

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Has anyone with an Enfield used PPU's .303? Is it any good?

SGAmmo has both soft point and FMJ at decent prices.

>>35113167
As good as any other PPU stuff. Bit weaker than surplus. Good brass.

I've had no problem with it ever, and it certainly rings a gong.

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>>35113167
It's pretty good. Accuracy isn't great but Enfields aren't know for accuracy anyways. Brass is top notch though, can't beat it.

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>>35113261
Theres a Winchester 1917 at my LGS that comes with an extra HS barrel. I should really go get it, something about a 1917 just feels right.

>$700 doe

>>35113308

That's not a bad price even without an extra barrel.

>>35113308
That's a fair price. I'd get it if I were you.

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>>35113222
>>35113261
Works for me. It's gotta be better than that bi-metal Wolf ammo I was tempted to buy for a moment. Thanks.

>>35113381
Non brass casing doesn't strictly mean it's shite quality or accuracy.

I am so tired of being poor. I am only halfway through college, and I am ready to earn money for working hard, not paying it.

>>35114207
Should have learned a trade

>>35112465
buy a Lee Enfield from the CGN EE or a gun show. That's too much.

>>35114252
I should have done a lot of things. I was uneducated about life and was assured by many people that a college degree in communications was my best bet to make a good life for myself. So I might just be fucked. Woohoo. What I can do at this point is make the fucking best out of the hand I have. Get good grades, get my scholarships and grants, try to get a good job making half-decent money. I would like to avoid being a shitheel in an office space, but HR guys make an average of 100 grand a year, so I can do that. I would fucking hate it though, so lets hope I can do well somewhere else.

>>35112947
Mm. Here's a secret: I didn't need much selling. Im getting one.

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>>35114411
I've got an interview for what could be my first real out-of-college job on Tuesday.

Hang in there Anon, you can make it.

>>35115232
Thanks, anon. I wish you good luck with the interview.

My type 99 gets here today pics soon ish

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>he got a Mickey Mouse degree
>he didn't study a major with 90% placement before graduation
>he didn't study a major with 80k starting

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>>35114411
>Get good grades, get my scholarships and grant
And network your ass off. Your professors know professionals in the field. If you aren't kissing their was to get in touch with those professionals you're fucking up. If you aren't buying beers for your classmates who are excelling in class, you're still fucking up. Getting a job, especially a good job, is 50% who you know.

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>>35115766
This. I didn't network nowhere near as much as I should have and now its kicking me in the ass. Do it while you still have time.

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Yay or nay?

>>35114411
Dude I went to school for engineering and it took me like 3 years to realize I just can't work in an office. Now I run CNC machines and although I don't make a whole lot of money I at least like my job.

>>35115803
Why the fuck not

>>35115817
Idk anything about these my guy

>>35115803
If that is a dragoon and not an ex-dragoon, then yay. Based on the rear sight it looks to be original

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How are the chinese type 53s? There are a few barreled actions online and I was considering buying one and getting a m44 stock for it.

Should I get an Enfield or save up for a PU sniper? I have an M39 and a K31 so far.

>>35115966
Why not both

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>>35115902
They're breddy good if you can find one that's not been trashed.

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>>35115966
Do you want to add a new caliber to your collection and ammo budget?

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>>35115803
Yes, providing it hasn't been sporterized. More pics are required.

>>35113381
>>35113574
The Wolf steel case 303 is beyond dogshit quality.

Underloaded, and undersized bullets.

Guy at gun shop wants 500 for a 1965 ishapore Enfield chambered in 308, how much does /msg/ think it's worth? Wood is pretty, and the gun looks great in general

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>>35116465
That's on the high end of the spectrum but not the highest I've seen. If it looks good inside and out and you want it go for it

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>>35116465
Pretty high, mine was only $300

>>35115791
>>35115766
>>35114411
>tfw in college
>don't want to work any job with my major
>don't want to do anything
>just trying to do bare minimum to graduate and trick people in charge that I actually learned
>just doing this to say I did it to my brother and then I'll sit around on his couch forever with some part time job.

How do I convert a Spanish Mauser to take an ammunition that isn't impossible to find?

>>35116685
You don't

>>35116745
This, handload if you can but don't mess up a cool old rifle.

>>35116685
>Too poor to afford 7mm
>Thinks he can afford to convert a milsurp

>>35116685
How can you not find 7x57? Every gun store in a 100 mile radius of me has a couple different offerings of it.

>>35116465
Guy won't come down from 500, "these aren't coming into the country anymore sonny"

>>35116823
Then go elsewhere. If you wanna be a prick, pull up a cheaper one on Gunbroker and ask if he'll do a transfer.

>>35116856
Lmao might actually do that, doubt it's his fault though, he probably just works there and can't mess with the prices

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>>35116685
Its not that hard to find bro, you can get it online.

>>35116628
That wood is fucking starving for oil.

>>35116816
this, I even found it at big 5 in fucking Los Angeles

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Well i went back for her dudes.

Actually came with a partial box of winchester .30-06 also.

>>35117203
You got a decent deal. Sell the barrel if you don't want it. Can probably get $150 out of it.

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>>35117203

>try to buy gun
>"nope not selling it to you because you're from New Jersey"
>why the fuck not
>"because then I'd have to go to an FFL to ship the rifle"

Would it kill you faggots to pay the $20 and just ship it instead of being cheap/lazy? I already have to suffer enough from living in this shithole.

>>35117229
High Standard barrels were pretty damn good though. This one doesn't have a date code and instead has a 'P' below where one would of been.

Might just hold onto it for a bit as a bargaining chip when I do need a new barrel. My Garand is getting kinda worn.


Is there an autism awareness book for the 1917s?

>>35117255
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

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How is 219 for pic related. Bore looks good and all. It's in 7 mauser btw

>>35117317
Non matching too

>>35117255
People from Jersey who come to PA to buy guns, especially at gun shows need to fuck off. We're full.

>>35117203
there's a P17 for sale around here for $500 but I'm not that into them sadly

>>35117329

>go to gun show in Matamoras
>it's nothing but rusty shotguns and some guy selling a Yugo SKS for $600

You can keep your gunshows.

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>>35117317
>>35117326
I paid $250 for mine in similar post-War refurb condition, but mine's matching.

>>35117425
Why did I have to get stuck with the uncle that decides a sportered mauser is a good thing, and a good thing to send me. When the bolt is rusty. 1893 as well

>>35117247
heh today(ish) is its 99th birth day.

>>35115766

>yfw you're socially retarded
>yfw you never hadn out with people
>yfw you never talk to people

>>35117588
>yfw 80% of success in life is showing up

>>35117762

THAT is something I'm good at at least.

Where are some good places online to buy surps?

So 2 gun shows today, strongly considered a couple of 44s, M44 from Poland, Model 44 from Mossberg. Ended up not getting either of them though both were very tempting.

All I got was some ammo, a first aid kit and a few MREs.

Anybody do better this weekend?

>>35116745
>>35116758
>>35116784
>>35116816

Can I convert it to 9mm?
>>35116758
literally nobody gives a fuck about this rifle

>>35117837
>Can I convert it to 9mm?
Why not just buy it in 9mm?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/690983995

>>35117864

Saw one of those at the fun show today.

>>35117864
go fuck yourself dude i have no money
FUck
you

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>>35117828

Picked up a CZ.52 in excellent shape. No scratches or marks what so ever.

250 out the door.

Looking to buy a Makarov for my 21st. Need me that slav shit. Whats a good price? ~$200 - ~$300?

Any milsurp owners in the Eastern Puget sound Area of Washington have some good land to buddy up and shoot at? All the rifle ranges around here are shit paper targets.

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>>35115292
New pics of my new type 99

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>>35118356
All matching but no dust cover and ground mum.

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>>35118381
>>35118356
It looks really good! I love the orange color on Type 99's.

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>>35118381

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>>35118412
Paging arisaka anon. What series and year would you say this is?
>>35118410
Thanks man, I started my surp collection with Nippon Banzai raifus and I plan on getting the test eventually

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I just purchased a finish M24 form my local gun store and was curious if you dudes could help me figure out how old the receiverer is. This particular M24 is a little weird since it's got a 1940 dated VKT D barrel with the old style sights that can be flipped up. It's got a hex receiver but It appears the markings have been scrubbed aside from a large R. Anyway, pic related is of the tang. More pics incoming.

>>35118457
>it's got a 1940 dated VKT D barrel with the old style sights that can be flipped up.
What makes you think it's an m/24 then?

Tang date looks like 1914 Tula.

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>>35118494
this is an m24 stock, right?

>>35118635
>this is an m24 stock, right?
That's an m/91 stock.

M/24 refers specifically to Civil Guard rifles built using Swiss and German-supplied barrels.
http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/M24-Rifle.asp

>>35118676
Oh, my bad! still tho, $150 was not a bad price on an antique mosin.

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>>35118701
>$150 was not a bad price on an antique mosin.
VERY good price these days. 1914 is not considered antique by ATF tho.

>>35118734
It's considered antique by me lol! I haven't seen many pre 1930 mosins for sale around my area. I'll have to take it out and see how she shoots later.

>>35118768
What you think doesn't matter, just the ATF

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>>35118809
>What you think doesn't matter, just the ATF
Quote from man V&.

>>35118809
wtf are they going to do about it

So I've been getting interested in Jap guns specifically the Type 38.

What's a far price on one with and without a mum?

How much more are Type 44s?

>>35118906
shoot your dog

>>35118906
Flashbang any young children in the area

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First for my t shirt came today

>>35118950
>>35118972
how would they know the purchase details to the point of getting a search warrant

>>35119012
>getting a warrant
yo I smell weed knock down this door

>>35118990

I got mine yesterday, just in time for the gun shows this morning.

>>35119038
Of course I ordered the german one before Charlottesville, so now I imagine ill catch a ton of shot from people for it because anything with that font is an ebil nazeeh

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Is this a good deal?

>>35119113
not even in shithole america is generic Textura quadrata considered "nazi font"

with such intense projections, maybe you are a nazi :^)

>>35119144
>Crudely made
Well at least they're honest

>>35119144

Depends, is that a $350 scope? If so it's a good deal, if not then not.

>>35119144

that scope is pretty groovy

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Picked up this Arisaka in 6.5 jap with dust cover and bayonet for 250, sadly its missing the front sight blade but I can get one off ebay, howd I do?

>>35119716

That's a pretty good deal.

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>>35119716
insane deal. is the bayonet marked? if it is it's worth well over $100
I also got a Type 38 for $250 but it doesn't have a bayonet. It does however have matching serials, including dust cover and a mum (but cancelled out of the factory for service in Thailand).

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>>35113167
>>35113381
ppu stuff works a lot better on clips then wolf.
wolf stuff is only good for blasting.

>>35115766
I am just coming out of those first two years of "highschool, but again!" Bullshit. Hit it off pretty well with a teacher who knows some folks in the broadcasting business though. Maybe I could dj for cash.

Any one have experience with Korean .30-06? I went through two boxes and it was sticky bolt the whole way. Hard to open, hard to close. and one got stuck, extractor couldn't pop it out.

I don't think the accuracy was all that great either. Nearly impossible to hit the 300 yard gong, granted my front sight seemed to be a bit too far left.

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>>35119716
Would this one work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322711187481

>>35120251
Ah, never mind found some on liberty tree collector

>>35118990
Where'd you get that?

>>35120649
Beard man and sea cowgirl.

>Went to fun show
>found 6.5 Jap for $25/20
>.30-40 Krag for the same price
>Now wish I hadn't paid $40 for a box of Krag

>>35120649

C&Rsenal Indiegogo campaign. I got the American one that has the 1917, 1903 and Winchester 1897 with "E Pluribus Unum" on it.

I think it's going to be a limited-wear shirt for me since it's irreplaceable AND cool.

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>>35118427
Not that anon, but check out this site.

http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/japanese_markings.html

>>35120688
Thank you. It looks like it's a Second series Nagoya probably made ~1942 ish

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>>35118427
It's a 2nd series (kana ro) by Nagoya Arsenal.

>>35119144
It's a fake. What's worse is the scope is on backwards lel.

>>35119164
B b but I am in America. I stand by if they're smart enough to know what gott mit uns means, they're smart enough to know it's not nazi. But who knows whatll happen this day in age

>>35120652
>Sea cowgirl
>Seacow girl

>>35121122
She's a cowgirl of the seas, not a manatee who is a woman.

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I went shooting today and my rifle got a bit wet.
There was a light drizzle/mist for about half an hour.
Is my rifle going to die?

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Help, I think I've been bitten by the carbine bug. Post carbines to ease my suffering.

>>35121340
Say your goodbyes, there's nothing you can do

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>>35121408

>>35121430

Had a chance to buy a Polish M44 for $250 today, I was sorely tempted, but I'm low on money and it wasn't in amazing shape.

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>>35119716
Whats the markings under the mum mean, and why is there two zeros infront of the serial

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>>35121547

>>35121547
It says three, eight, type.
The two zeroes in front of the serial number indicates that your rifle was taken out of Imperial service and given to a school to teach children how to shoot. They did that with worn out, but still serviceable rifles. They also stamped 文 underneath the 'mum' when they did that, but yours has been scrubbed off when they ground the 'mum' down.

>>35115766
>Getting a job, especially a good job, is 50% who you know.

University is worthless
>professors never worked in industry, they're acedemics, fucking eggheads
Community college is where its at, get an associates Degree in something technical
>CC instructors ALL have major industry experience and connections

I got a sweet gig at an R&D lab after one fucking semester at a community college, I am helping develop next-gen powertrains and control systems. Get chummy with the instructor, dont be so aspie, and dont skip class. Life on easy mode

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>>35121732
you are so wise Arisaka-san

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Got this little beauty for $130 with 25 rounds of 6.5 dutch with 3 enblocks took her out and it shoots amazing not a single misfire from the Milsurp or the Kyoch ammo

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>>35121766
That you Buck?
>>35121779
Shame it's been butchered.

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>>35121818
Actually it hasn't thats a old model #1 carbine stock

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>>35121340
Its a little known fact, but both world wars were fought in the pleasant afternoon breeze. If snow or rain was forcasted they just stayed inside.

>>35121886
did japan participate in the first world war?

>>35121732
Ah thats pretty cool, thanks

>>35121902

Sorta? They were on the side of the Entente, but on the wrong side of the world to do anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGwQwXKMuNQ

>>35121902
https://youtu.be/Mh5LY4Mz15o?t=365

>>35121902
Yes, to a small degree.
They took German colonies in the Pacific and sent arms to the Russians and British.

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>>35121902
They didn't mess with Europe, they pretty much just ransacked China
Heres The Great War on the matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG_SzUVNo8I


>>35121825
I think you got bamboozled bro.
http://candrsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/No1-OM.jpg

http://candrsenal.com/a-quick-and-dirty-guide-dutch-mannlichers/

>>35121978
Oh well $130 isn't too bad I think.....

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>tfw Mas36 would be perfect if the front blade was thinner

>>35122603
The thicc post is to help let the shooter see it in the dark.

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>>35121408
Did you say....

Carbines?

>>35122603

So grind it down.

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>>35122806

>>35122603
The thick blade is perfect for a battle sight. Nice and easy to rapidly acquire.

>>35122842
Doesn't help me shoot groups on paper, though. Wish I had steel to shoot.

>>35122982
I feel you. None of the rifle ranges around here do steel. And I don't know anyone with at least an acre of land to build a short range range with.

>>35117247
Did you check for cracks in the receiver under the handguard before buying?

>>35112275
some of them have sights designed to help shoot down small airplanes

>>35125193
Uhh. Nope. Why would you? They didn't have the same problems as the 1903s heat treatment.

I just cleaned it before going to the range, certainly didn't see any cracks and nothing kaboomed.

The magazine box is 100% overbuilt and the bolt was an international hero

>Winchester body
>Remington firing pin
>Eddystone shroud
>Enfield striker (i assume that's what EN is anyway)

>>35125634
Because there was a problem with receiver rings being cracked during the re-barreling process for WW2.

Where can I buy a jungle carbine for less than $500?

>>35125634
What >>35125727
said. If it got rebarreled anytime in its service there were issues with the receiver ring cracking during re barreling on the 1917.

>>35125827
>>35125727
Ahh, I'll go double check, it's not a winchester barrel but it was within a years date from the receiver.

I shot about 60 korean surplused rounds through it with only one stuck case i attribute to grease cooking in the chamber. But otherwise no problem.

>>35126027
>it was within a years date from the receiver.
Wasn't re-barreled then; the barrel date would be 1940s-vintage in that case.

>>35126069
still a good idea to check.
A lot of these got 'restored' a bit by people over the years and many did not know to relieve the shoulder before taking off old barrels. The reason I mentioned this in the first place was because it came with a spare barrel and that made me think of this

>>35121779
Nice foot.

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Any of you guys wanna buy an Egyptian FN 49 for $800?

>>35117255
Lol. Get out of there.

Not to mention ffl costs on your end would be like 60 bucks

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>>35120652
Othais, the madman, called her a manatee to her fucking face

>>35127189
Yes. Where?

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>>35127427
Arkansas. I can ship if you can pay for it.

>>35127189
It looks beat, how about treefiddy?

>>35127416
Yes, well that's his prerogative.

>>35117092
Different anon, what do you do to oil your stocks, i have alot of dryish surp that needs some.

>>35127843
Boiled or raw (depending on the type of wood) linseed oil is my preference

>>35127515
>that stock

Nvm not interested

>>35127879

If only I wanted one. Someone's getting a cheap Lebel.

>>35127867
Linseed oil is more of a finish than an actual oil

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>>35117092
>>35127843
>>35127867
>>35127901
It's a myth that stocks dry out. Reality is that wood is constantly expanding and contracting with the relative humidity. It's another myth that wood NEEDS a finish to preserve it. The only thing the finish does is keep out excess moisture. There are 700 year old+ pieces of furniture with their original finish intact, a 70 year old piece of wood doesn't need anything.

what are nugget snipers going for these days?

>>35128197
is that a 38 carbine?
>>35128207
morethanyoucanaffordpal.png

>>35128250
>morethanyoucanaffordpal.png

i actually have the opportunity to get one in fair condition from a friend, just wondering what would be reasonable to offer

>>35128197
>the only thing that a finish does is keep out moisture
You know what moisture does to wood right bud? Did you think of that before posting?

>>35128207
Ill sell you one for $850.

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Anyone else shoot today?

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>>35128534

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>>35128558

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>>35128250
Type 44. It's missing a lot of stock finish and pieces of wood because of this: 20 years on the back of a cavalryman does that.
>>35128278
Moisture doesn't harm wood unless it's soaked in it for long periods of time. Again, the finish is there to try to keep out EXCESS moisture. It's really the environment a piece is left in that ultimately preserves it.
Read some actual museum preservation articles.

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>>35128534
I went yesterday, but didn't take any pictures. Here's my FR-8 from last weekend

My MAS 36 is supposed to be here Saturday, so I'll attempt to take nice pictures of it on the range then.

>>35128534
>he shoots his guns

I think I'm going to have to update the expected price of most milsurp firearms in my head by a few hundred as people keep significantly overpaying for the basics.

bleh

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Picked up this fine Sako M39 at the gunshow yesterday. 1944 Civil Guard, one of only ~1700 made that year. The CG district SN is still on the right side of the receiver.

Bore is immaculate. The wood has beautiful tigerstriping as well. I'm confident she'll be a great shooter.

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>>35129861
Tell me about it

>>35128197
>There are 700 year old+ pieces of furniture with their original finish
No shit if its been french polished to seal out moisture loss. You're an idiot if you think letting military stocks dry out or get excessive water is just natural.


Dry stocks crack with recoil. Drying oils replace the empty void.

>>35129965
Price? And more pics pls.

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>>35130066
God damn....

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>>35129965
Fug. Seconding more pics.

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>>35130167
That person is insane.

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>>35130325
I need a new hobby that isn't looking at insane Gunbroker auctions.

>>35130411
Dude that conversion is going to go for a crazy sum

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>>35130088
French polishing wasn't even around 700 years ago, it hasn't even been around 200. Those furniture were finished the same as a lot of rifle stocks, with linseed oil. Linseed oil btw, doesn't even penetrate past the surface layer. It doesn't fill any such "voids."

You should read some actual museum conservation papers instead of spout bullshit. Wood does not dry out over time.

Again what preserves a piece is a stable environment. Cut a board in half. Place on inside your living room and place one on outside and come back in 5 years and see which want looks the same as it does when cut.

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>>35130167
>commonwealth arsenal
Wtf does this even mean?
>>35130411
Te be fair, Finnish captured M44s are super rare, ESPECIALLY if they are made in 1944. The 1943 made ones are more common for Finn captured. If NC was around he would tell you that too.

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>>35130449
The Berthier? Its still on the low side actually. If it goes over 1500 then it'll be high. Like pic related.

And yes, I am always talking to my wife.

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>>35130527
Why do people always go crazy for those damn Remington made Berthiers? They aren't even rare!

>>35108211
I like shooting my russian capt k98k
Off hand is comfy
Ammo prices keep going up tho

>>35130564
Beats me
>Unissued
No shit, they never made it over to be issued.
>>35130522
I thought Finn M44s were only mildly rare.

>>35130727
Finns were wrapping up their battling with the Soviets by then, no? M44s going through arsenal inspection, let alone capture by seems less likely by then

I'd also assume the latest technology would be prioritized elsewhere, but I don't know

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>>35130497
Lol. "Wood does not dry out"

Opinion discarded


To answer your rhetorical diarrhea both boards would look different simply because changing humidity would cause both of them to swell or contract to match outside conditions. The outside one would change more because it doesn't have the luxury of air conditioning to stabilize humidity at the desert setting


Protip: seasoned wood exists for a reason (to include kiln dried)

>>35130840
I forget when the Finns essentially gave up. I know the front wasn't a big priority though because the Finns never pushed past their original borders

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So I thought about posting this in the /qtdot/ thread, but I figured the people here would be more likely to know the answer.

So in pic related I've been wondering what the numbers were for here on the side of my mosin, (91/30 1942 izhevsk) I heard about mosins getting sent to civil guard and get re-numbered on the side with the district, but this number matches the last 4 of the actual serial number, and doesn't start with an S.

Id really like to learn a bit more about the history of this rifle and 7.62x54r.net doesn't have anything about a ZY number on the side.

Also be a nice bonus if anyone knew what thoes other random symbols are just In front.

>>35130915
Is it [SA] or D marked?

>>35130882
Again, read the museum conservation articles.
Wood does not dry out. As you just said yourself wood swells and contracts with the relative humidity. It can't dry out if it is absorbing moisture, now can it?
>>35130915
It was put on by an importer. It's the translation of the Cyrillic.

>>35131024
Wood wants to reach equilibrium with whatever the humidity is. I'll put this in simple English for you. Wood wet but air dry so wood get dry. Wood dry but air wet, wood get wet.

>>35131135
Which is exactly what I said. Wood doesn't dry out, because wood is constantly pulling water in and pushing water out with the humidity. It doesn't matter if the wood is centuries years old or a 20 year old splitting fence post.

Again, read some articles on conservation...or don't, be like a typical idiot online and assumes he knows everything.

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>>35130522
>Want a Mas-36 in the long term future
>mfw chances are they'll go for an easy thousand because milsurp is skyrocketing in prices.

>>35131228
>wood doesn't dry out
>it pushes water out
What did he mean by this?

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>>35131024
>Museams trying to preserve wood on a humidity controlled environment is totally the same as a rifle that sees use.


Its okay anon. The brits only dunked their stocks in literal boiled linseed oil because fuck the peasants

The usa only dunked their stocks for aesthetics and milsurp resale value.


{Guess where on the graph you fall)

>>35131271
It would have to be in a klin to dry out.
>>35131310
So just because they did it 100 years ago, means we should do it now?

Again, read the preservation articles. The stock oil does NOTHING other than try to keep excess moisture out. It doesn't preserve it. It doesn't have to be reapplied.

Your gun is still not being used 99.9999% of the time. It's in a climate controlled air conditioned house most of it's life. That is even far better than those 700 year old+ pieces of furniture had. Again, read some conservation articles before you spout your mouth off.

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>>35131264
Milsurp prices are drastically increasing desu. And we're just in a bubble right now. Expect there to be a market correction shortly.

>>35131404
I hope so, maybe I'll be able to afford more surp if it does.

>>35131404
I doubt it. I've never seen prices like the auctions that are going off nowadays.

>>35131367
Your ignorance is showing again.
They did it more than a hundred years ago and they still do it now for what little wood they have left for ceramonial duty.

Also, no you don't have to use it. The russians used shellac, japan used Urushi and Finland used pine/birch tar to accomplish the same goal of preservation.

Linseed oil (your"stock oil") does more than moisture control, it fills the pores and cells and gaps with itself and dries, leaving its glue like husk behind making the stock denser and more resistant to splitting or dents. The tars will also while making it slightly waterproof thanks to the resins.


No your house is nowhere near as climate controlled as a museum. I live in the desert where its 0% average humidity and not Britain or france or wherever the stock was carved with a much higher humidity

>>35131633
>They did it more than a hundred years ago and they still do it now for what little wood they have left for ceramonial duty.
Looking extra good /= preservation.

>Finland used pine/birch tar to accomplish the same goal of preservation.
A myth spread by retards. This has been disproved many time over.

>Linseed oil (your"stock oil") does more than moisture control, it fills the pores and cells and gaps with itself and dries, leaving its glue like husk behind making the stock denser and more resistant to splitting or dents. The tars will also while making it slightly waterproof thanks to the resins.
And none of that is preservation. It doesn't prevent it from 'drying out,' nor does it add moisture to the wood or any other myth that is spread around.

>I live in the desert where its 0% average humidity
Yeah, OUTSIDE. Not in your house.

You keep spreading myths and won't stop.

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>>35127189
tfw could've got a belgian fn49 for $700 cad

>>35131788
As in... a 7.65x53 FN49?

>>35131851
Nope, 7.62x63 real fuckin' americlap

>>35131957
Sexy, but not "bludgeon a toddler to death with my throbbing erection" sexy like a actual Belgian or Argentinian 7.65 Mauser one would be.