P320 Compact

>>35105923
Imo it's a little wide. It's the same size as a full p320 but with a shorter barrel

If you wanna cc something get a mp9 shield

>>35105929
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into them now.

>>35105923
Sig is shit. 90% of their new products have defects of have been recalled, including the P320. Another shitty thing they do is come out with "A1" versions of their guns without labeling them as such, meaning one gun might have different magazines depending on what year or what its serial number is.

If you want a polymer compact 9mm, there are several options out there that are basically identical in function and price (Sigshit is also expensive compared to its competitors). Your best option is to go to your local gun store after you turn 21, and just fingerfuck all the guns that you are interested in that are within your size limit and price range. Maybe you'll like the P320 the best, but I just wanted to give you a fair warning about their products.

>>35105929

If you got big hands, this gun will feel like shot to you.

>>35106001
I appreciate the warning. And I'll definitely be fingerfucking as many guns as I can when my birthday comes.

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>>35105923
imho concealed carry almost always means single stack to prevent as much printing as possible
pic has 8 rd flush + 9 rd 2nd mag = 17 carried
far more concealable that p320 compact
mp9 shield is shit, don't listen to >>35105929

>>35106246
>imho concealed carry almost always means single stack to prevent as much printing as possible

More like
>"I"m a fucking idiot that doesn't know what they're talking about and have no idea that quality belt and holsters will greatly aid in comfort and concealment of a medium sized gun i.e Glock 19

And you call the Shield shit, posting a picture of a Springfield. You're a funny guy.

>>35106279
>muh holster hides by lard ass
Nothing but issues with both my shields. Both sent back for service multiple times. Very unreliable. Go fuck a cactus until you bleed out whatever illness you have.

>>35105923
Wait until they fix the safety issues the P320s have. As of right now, they're not drop safe from the factory.

>>35105923
It's alright. Wide, but grip is short so it doesn't poke out to much. Get a good holster and a baggy shirt if you want to do it.

>>35106001
What a liar.

>>35105923
Anon Sigs 320 performance wise is outstanding. Wait until the updated models for the p320 roll out. Alot of Glock enthusiasts are BTFO still about Sig getting the government contract so they will miss direct you.

>>35106371
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/08/breaking-sig-sauer-offers-upgrade-p320-pistols-wake-drop-safety-failures/amp/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/22/breaking-sig-sauer-mcx-recall-mandatory-replacement-required/amp/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/09/02/sig-legion-vs-slovenian-sig-torture-test-fight/amp/

https://www.realgunreviews.com/sig-mpx-faq-video-analysis/

Get fucked faggot

>>35106399
Want me to post all the Glocknade shit? It is 6 times as long, BTW posting links to a glock shill blog get bent faggot.

>>35105923
I conceal carry a P320 Compact and wear fairly fitted clothing, it's not too hard.

>yet another thread about Sigs where anyone suggesting stuff other than Sig or criticizing Sig is called a Glock shill

Every time I drop mine it shoots somebody in the leg, good think I got it in 9mm so nobody was actually hurt

It's thicc compared to a G19 but manageable.

If you are willing to deal with a manual safety, the sig p938 is king amongst SS 9mms. I prefer SAO gun and even DA/SA to striker fired but I'm waiting for a thumb safety version of the p320 to hit the market

As a skeletor, I also prefer SS for carry, YMMV

>>35106399
Generation 2 called, wanted to let you know that 1988 was a long time ago

Get over yourself you asshurt little faggot

>>35106518
>suggesting stuff other than
That is shilling considering Op asked about Sig not Glock or HK or what ever else. People who cant stay on topic pisses me off.

>>35106538
>>35106466
This is for you

>>35106543
Suggesting alternatives is not shilling you aspie

>>35106466
>anyone who disagrees with me is a Glock shill

No one has even suggested OP buy a Glock. Glock doesn't innovate their shit, but OP could still buy a semi-custom G19 for the price of a P320, and the Glock won't AD if it's dropped.

The only Sig product I would consider buying at this point is the Mk 25 because muh Navy SEALs, but even they switched to Glock, so I guess Sig really is shit lmao The Rex Zero 1 is the superior P226 anyway.

>>35106538
Buying the same Glock five times in a row is stupid, but buying from a company with a proven track record of defective and dangerous products is even more stupid.

>>35106548
Did not ask for alternatives. go away

>>35106589
>OP: I want to buy a Sig
>anon: don't do it, Sig is shit
>faggot: HURR YOU'RE JUST A GLOCK SHILL STAY ON TOPIC

>>35106589
Don't care. I'm going to give you unwarranted advice because I'm an asshole.

>>35106582
>Glock across all 5 Gens
>the same
Holy shit you're an idiot

>>35106631
>implying it's not

>>35106601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_OkbLgLKE

>>35106619
>unwarranted advice
yep. that's a shill

>>35106657
i'm not that anon
nope, advice =/= shill
a glock salesrep chiming in is definitely shilling
knowing mp shield is shit is advice

>>35106619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRFVQvgoX4

>>35106648
>>35106664
>>35106675
Keep going!
So happy I never fell for the hype!
Glocknade morons!

>>35106648
Stop being a butthurt Sigfag and posting Glocknade videos.

Yeah it's quite telling that all the fanboys of GLOCK PERFECTION put $500 worth of aftermarket upgrades into their guns, but this is a thread about Sig. Just because Glock is shit doesn't mean Sig can't also be shit.

>>35106675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeQEpWqo0mw

>>35106682
>but this is a thread about Sig
Welcome to 4chan, let me show you it's features!
Troll post
Troll replies
Deal with it

>>35106687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyy8taQ1jTk

>>35106687
"Blew up another one?"
Classic Glocknade shit extractor!
When will they fix it? Gen 23842837?

>SigIDF out in full force spamming Glock KBs from retards using shitty handloads
A shekel for the good goy

>>35105923
Bought one for a friend and carried it for a few days, actually really liked it.

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>buying a Sig made in USA

>>35106682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQHfRWRVzYQ

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>>35106701
>using shitty handloads
unsupported chambers
poorly scaled 9mm
the shekel goes to you, you brave glock defender

>>35106637
It's not. Even between Gen 4 and Gen 5 the internals have changed quite a bit.

Just because they all look basically the same doesn't mean they are all the same.

>>35106701
WINTER HAVEN | The Police Department is ditching $38,000 worth of guns after two .45-caliber GAP Glock Model 37 pistols exploded in separate training incidents a year a part, causing minor injuries to an officer and a cadet.

“I’ve been around 34 years in law enforcement, and we’ve seen malfunctioning with guns, but never seen it explode,” Police Chief Mark LeVine said.
http://www.theledger.com/news/20080313/haven-police-ditch-glocks-after-two-explode

>>35106739
>quite a bit
you dumb mother fucker
ambi slide catch
not ambi mag release
stupid non-matching bevel doesn't match frame
did not change a damned thing about their so-called safe design
worthless glock shill
5 gens in, still looks like a moldy stick of butter

>>35106740
> we’ve seen malfunctioning with guns
>but never seen it explode
kek

>>35106563
this. 226 is the biggest fucking meme. it's a 700 dollar max gun that costs 900+

>>35106740
Glock continuing to over achieve

Fucking Glauktistic faggots shitting up another thread that had nothing to do with glocks, good job

>>35107015
It's the paid Sig shills shitting up the thread trying to deflect to Glock's problems after someone pointed out how awful Sig is as a company.

>>35106399
You forgot the article about the New Jersey police who sued SIG because their guns were unreliable as shit. They replaced them with Glocks.

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>>35106713
>bought one for a friend

You Glock and SIG fags should throw your unreliable pieces of shit away and get something good like a Heckler & Koch P30 or USP.

>>35107352
I didn't even bring up the whole 556xi embarrassment.

>>35107352
IIRC, that was because of dogshit ammo the NJSP bought because they're cheap.

>>35105923
>people are hesitant to carry a Sig P320
>meanwhile I carry a Sig 2022

>>35107376
People here are poorfags, so Walther is the best option right now because of the rebate. I'm buying a PPQ today.

>>35107376
>implying H&K is worth the organs you'd have to sell

>>35107352
>Seen many weapon malfunctions but never one that explodes.
>>35106740

>>35107376
You should mind you business HK-fag. No one said shit about HK. You want us to start a shit storm on HKs? Muh tight tolerances, not a soldiers gun. You really want to open that can of worms faggot?

>>35106682
Boo boo stop posting incrementing Glocknade videos, even though there a no videos of a actual Sig shooting someone from being dropped. Herr derr perfection, ouch Muh fingers got blown off. Muh shooting reloads. Muh stubby manlet hands no like finger grooves. Muh pull trigger to disassemble, shot Muh doggo.

>>35108462
>someone has to be shot before we can recognize a legitimate defect
This is what Sigfags actually believe.

And yes, bad handloads can KB any gun. That's not a valid criticism. I know a guy from work who KBed his Para 40 S&W 1911 with handloads. Notice how this usually happens with 40 and 10mm since those are already hot rounds anyway.

>>35109018
What's that sound I hear? Hmmm sounds like another Glock blowing up.

>>35109153
lol dude I don't even care about Glock. I don't own one. It's just funny to see you faggots sperging out and refusing to acknowledge that Sig has a problems not only with the P320, but with nearly their entire firearm product line as a whole.

>>35106371
>>35106394
>>35106466
>>35106538
>>35106648
>>35106675
>>35106681
>>35106687
>>35106692
>>35106696
>>35106699
>>35106719
>>35106725
>>35106740
>>35106867
>>35108462
>>35109153
Holy kek the Sigshilling is real. Why don't you kikes try making guns that actually work instead of paying people to shit up /k/?

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>>35109264
but I suck H&Ks cock

keep paying 1 grand for American Sigs though

>>35109288
Sig makes the majority of their money selling moron labia-tier shit to uninformed people who then get buyers remorse and try to justify paying $1k for a 37-year-old pistol that is outclassed by a $500 Slovenian clone.

The one good thing I will say about Sig is that the MCX racked up an impressive high score of queers in Florida last year.

As someone who owns Sig, Glock, and HK guns these types of threads make me laugh, not even /v/ is this bad with Brand wars

>>35109355
Probably because nobody ever died from playing a Jewbisoft game.

>>35106394
The Army should have just done the logical thing and went with the Beretta M9A3, but US military small arms contracts have been nothing but a series of dick-waving contests and a matter of who can grease the right palms since the adoption of the M14. It's probably one reason why advancement in firearms design has stagnated so much.

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>>35109334
I actually like the way the MPX looks. Wouldn't buy it because it'll probably be recalled 6 days after picking it up. I fell for the modular meme and it was neat as fuck and still kinda is but it's a mediocre whichever way you have it. still super neat to go from a fullsize to a compact though. gonna sell it though. still want a 229 legion in 357 Sig because I'm a faggot but damn

>>35109424
In my opinion, the "modular handgun" concept makes more sense for the consumer market than for a military application where it will stay in its holster 90% of the time anyway. The fact that the Army's requirements for a new handgun were pretty much written around the P320 is evidence that some shekels were exchanged somewhere. The MPX does seem cool, but I'd rather buy an MP5 clone for that same amount of money.

I was also interested in the Legion P226 until the AREX happened.

>>35109481
we're on the same page babe. I feel Glocks are alot more durable than the 320.
I'm dying for an MP5K.
Still gonna get an Arex to make fun of Sig fags

>>35105923
They're a bit fat if you're planning on wearing just a t-shirt, but you can slap a compact slide onto a subcompact grip. See if you can find a carry (full size mag, compact slide) model instead, and get the SC grip.

>>35109481
>military application where it will stay in its holster 90% of the time
That's cops. Military is more like 99.9%. Pistols are the dress swords of the 21st century.

>>35109481
To be fair, I think making any weapon that can "suit any situation" will just be overall mediocre, specialization is necessary for most weapons

>>35107362
brother in law, his first gun. Gifts to non felons is fine

>>35105923
Caveat: I've never CC'd the P320 Compact, only range fired one as a rental. That being said I was blown away with how good it felt in my hand and how easy it was to control.

>>35109481
This so much. The only good part of the "modular" is if you break something you can just throw in a new part easily.

Caliber changes? Backstrap adjustments? Army is NEVER going to do that shit. It's going to be one size fits all in 9mm NATO.

>>35109743
Jack of all trades is one of the truest phrases there is.

I CC a P938.

It's nice, I like the weight of the full metal frame.

>>35106466
>It is 6 times as long
Because 60 times as many people use and carry them
Sigs are literally unsafe for carry.

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After Sig replaces all the triggers, the P320 would be a great buy. I really like mine a lot. That said, do not buy it until/unless it has the upgraded trigger. That process is likely to take months, and thats for people who already own the gun and registered for the free upgrade the day it became available.

I have a P320 subcompact, but the other gun I was considering which is a similar size is the HK P30SK (LEM version). I'm looking at it again now that my P320 will be at the Sig's factory for 6-8 weeks getting fixed.

FYI P320s run big for their capacity, but I have no problem concealing mine AIWB under just a t-shirt.

>>35110327
The trigger replacement literally doesn't matter. It's the sear and striker modifications as well as the added disconnecter that will determine if these things can be made safe.

>>35105923
Don't. I carried one concealed and it's wide and heavy. Get a Glock 19 instead. You won't regret it.

>>35105923
Sucks to conceal. But so do most double stack compact handguns, such as glock19. If youre gonna conceal get a subcompact like a g43, shield, xds, or sig 320 subcompact.

I have a 45acp 320 carry, and use a sub compact frame for ccw. I chose carry size over full size because sights aligned perfectly on the compact sized slide whenever i would bring it up. Full size and sub compact i always had to adjust hand position.

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>>35110289
>Sigs are literally unsafe for carry
What are you fucking dumb, they carry just fine. Just don't drop them.

>>35105923
A lot of sig hating and faggotry in this thread. take it with a lump of salt as most retards on K simply regurgitate whatever idiocy they've read from other 4chaners.

While the p320 isn't the best at anything it is really good at being a jack of all trades. As a first time CCW and possibly even handgun owner this is likely to be of particular interest to you.

The sig p320 does just about everything as well as any other member of the doublestack competition while offering the ability to change from a full size grip to a subcompact. This means that you can have one gun that can be used for relatively deep concealment while also being capable of offering a full sized grip should your wardrobe allow it(can you say winter carry/range use?). It's going to be enjoying major aftermarket support due to it's use by many institutions and i frankly couldn't name a gun that will offer as much modularity as it does.

OTOH if modularity and market support mean nothing to you, or if you really want a super concealable/comfy EDC then there are going to be better choices.

>>35107451
>IIRC, that was because of dogshit ammo the NJSP bought because they're cheap.

That's what Sig claims. The reality is that the training ammo of the New Jersey State Police is Speer Lawman, which is an FMJ loaded to identical pressures as the Speer Gold Dot. It is actually some of the best FMJ that money can buy, and any decent gun should be able to run it with no problems.

>>35107376
I too enjoy $50 factory magazines, proprietary everything, a tiny aftermarket, and scarce + expensive spare parts. Oh well; at least I get to look cool on the internet when I post pictures of the internet, right?

>>35106246
>Springfield

>>35109633
>Dress sword
>It's made of plastic you can scratch with your thumb, and every metal part of that isn't the barrel or slide is stamped or MIM.

It must be hard to feel pride in being issued such a weapon.

>drop memes only apply to P320
>no one can dispute P226 is the best handgun

>>35111453
If it's best then why did the Navy SEALs drop it for the Glock? Lmao

>>35111469
Because your average SEALs weapon isn't their handgun, it's a rifle.

Not exactly applicable to civilian CCW, if you only let SEALs carry handguns you'd probably see changes in what they prefer.

>>35111453
It's the best handgun, but not when it's made by Sig.
>>35111370
>tiny aftermarket
Not really needed when the gun is actually good OOTB, unlike Glocks.
>>35111173
>most retards on K simply regurgitate whatever idiocy they've read from other 4chaners.
Except for all the documented proof of Sig's products being defective and requiring mandatory recalls or being discontinued entirely.

>>35111469
because they need a tactical grenade more than a sidearm

>>35111559
Speaking in regards to the p320 the only "defect" it had was not being drop safe in a manner that is typically never tested for. Who even knows what other guns may fail under that condition.

Sig has had some pretty meh quality here or there but whether that will prove to be consistently systemic or simply a growing pain remains to be seen.

>>35111596
>consistently systemic
Every new gun they've released in the past three or so years has been defective, and that's not even counting all the documented problems had with the original Sig 556 and 556r.

>>35106001
You are either a Glockfag or complete idiot.

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good looking guns

>>35106399
>mcx recall
That wasn't due to a defect

>>35111827
maxim 9 long

>>35111431
Dress swords are fucking useless m8. They're issued out of bloody mindedness.

>>35111469
The vast majority of Seals don't carry the issued sidearm. They purchase and carry their own, which in the most cases is a P226 or 1911.
The Glocks pretty much stay in the armory collecting dust.

Sorry to burst your bubble Glockfag.

>>35113068
Different guy here. Do you have a source on this? Asking so that I have something to use against Glockfags in the future.

>>35105923
lolsig