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i need /k/ to tell me about the FULL story behind Rhodesia. i know a little bit but i want a better picture and some good information to share to people.
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>>35102588
bunch of racists that got a taste of there own medicine
the country is finally at peace now but I just wish more families got raped. the rest of the racists in the world need to get the message
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>some good information to share to people
Why? Dont be that guy that gets "redpill tourettes" and alienates all his friends by forcing heavily artifacted infographics about a failed apartheid state down their throats.
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so basically what happened is that some people got guns, they fought a war, some people died and now rhodesia doesn't exist anymore
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>>35102732
We can make it basic-er
>people acquired weapons
>people with weapons used them on people with other weapons
>surviving force exists
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>>35103230
>There was a war
>Rhodesia lost

The end
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>>35103320
>being this stupid

Rhodesia won the military conflict. They lost the political side of things due to Anglo guilt and the UN. This is why Rhodesia is loved by /k/. It was a brave and proud country that fought against odds way higher than themselves, and won at every turn - while only losing the no-gun political side of things.

They didn't fight blacks because of sheer hate, they fought a Communist invader that was backed by the USSR and the Chinese, on their own. Look at Zimbabwe now and Rhodesia back in the day. It sure pains the heart to see such African beauty and potential get wasted away and pissed on.
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>>35102588
Don't let the white supremacists co-opt it into their beliefs. The place was racist but far from what the U.S. and the U.K. was going through at the time. It was in a path of educating the natives and only letting the educated participate in politics and the creation of policy. It was the fucking commies that fucked up everything there and no one wanted to help them due to social awareness growing at the time.

Africa would of been a far better place if it had not been surrounded on all sides ad left to fight on their own.
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>>35103493
Fuck you, the blacks were lucky to live under that government.
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>>35102588
Here's the story of Rhodesia, a land both fair and great
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>>35102588
Okay for starters, there are some dumb fucking shills here... anyways, basically England told all of their colonists that they needed to return "home" due to the whole post WWII self determination bullshit, and the colonists in Africa (Australia and Canada were not colonies) basically said no because while being Anglo-Saxon, they were not English, rather they were African. It's very similar to the feeling of colonist in America before the revolutionary war. So after some time, and a couple negotiations, the colony of Rhodesia issued their Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI) from England. Their two main reasons were identity and agriculture. Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa. In literally 90 something years they became the most prosperous agricultural power in Africa. They felt that if they just up and left the nation would crumble and starve (spoiler alert: they did.), and the UN declared them an unrecognized state. Their only two allies were Portugal and, surprising, Israel. Quickly, rebels organized and began attacking Rhodesia. The USSR and China backed rebels did not do well against the Rhodesia forces. In one operation alone, Operation Dingo Rhodesian forces faced 10,000+ fighters and only had 200 men of their own. They killed 3000 rebels and wounded 5000, while only losing 2 men and having 6 wounded. Rhodesia won the war, but lost the political battle as their only two allies pulled away support. Eventually the UN forced the to acquiesce through sanctions.

TL;DR: whites wanted to protect the actual population of this nation and were called racist, then were attacked by commies but still managed to fuck up the commies pretty hard until the (((UN))) basically made them not be "wacist" anymore by giving the land to Mugabe.
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>>35105171
on the 11th of November an independent state
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>>35105185
Operation Dingo
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>>35105189
This was much against the wishes of certain governments
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>>35102588
It's called google you lazy fucking nigger
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>>35105200
whose leaders tried to break us down and make us all repent
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>/k/
>people wanting history lessons
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>>35105208
Because we're all rhodesians and we'll fight through thick and thin
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>>35105246
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
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>>35103455
so glad to see another with actual common sense in this thread
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A TERRR HORDE IAN!! ON AN OPEN VEEEEEELLLLLDT!!!
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>>35105268
We'll keep the north of the Zambezi, 'till that river's running dry
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>>35105268
We'll keep the north of the Zambiezie
till that rivers running dry
and the mighty land will prosper
becasue rhodesians never die
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>>35102605

you're being a little too obvious, /pol/
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>>35105185
Mostly right except for a few bits

>heir only two allies were Portugal and, surprising, Israel.

You forgot the most important ally of them all South Africa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcora_Exercise

>whites wanted to protect the actual population of this nation and were called racist

They literally changed their constitution to ban black people from ever having majority rule no matter how educated and wealthy they became and restricted education spending to whites.
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Also some OC you might enjoy


As for the OP
>i need /k/ to tell me about the FULL story behind Rhodesia

The fullstory would be a multi volume book. Ask some specific questions anon.
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Quick Rhodesian Rundown:


>Rhodesia bows to no one
>In contact with UK
>UK gets rid of all it's colonies and Commonwealth governments, post WWII to seem less imperialistic
>If this happens, it fucks over Rhodesia
>Rhodesia makes a Declaration of Independence
>UK says fuck you and tells everyone to not support them
>Everyone but (((Israel))) and South Africa basically leave Rhodesia to fend for itself
>War lords move in, the ZAPU & ZANU
>Both backed by Commies (Russians & Chinks)
>Rhodesia holds strong -- ENTIRELY BY ITSELF as Israel/SA eventually pull support due to outside pressure for nearly 3 decades
>Rhodesia's Selous Scouts have a fucking absurd KDR (like 30:1)
>Slowly chipped away for years
>Utter underdogs
>Eventually collapses, Mugabe takes over
>White genocide and genocide against all blacks who fought for Rhodesia
>Total cleanse
>New government of Zimbabwe
>All white farmers leave the country or die
>Country is experiencing one of the worst famines in history
>Mugabe literally begging white people back
It just fulfills /k/'s fantasy of having our own little colony with a bunch of dumb nigger Commies to operate against and run little chance of being killed in return.


To this day, the UK claims Rhodesia was racist and you're basically a Nazi for supporting them. America has always remained neutral and still is about the topic.
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>>35105888
>Everyone but (((Israel))) and South Africa basically leave Rhodesia to fend for itself
I never understood why /pol/ always blames Israel for everything, but fails to realize that Israel supplied weapons to Rhodesia. Shouldn't that make Israel (((based)))?
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>>35102605
t. Mugabe
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>>35105888
>America has always remained neutral and still is about the topic.
You're doing the usual thing of blaming the UK for something that really didn't have much to do with them, then ignoring entirely that the US was the one who caused everything to go wrong for it in the first place.

>UK gets rid of all it's colonies and Commonwealth governments, post WWII to seem less imperialistic
It was actually because they had no money whatsoever, and the United States would no longer deal with governments who held colonies. Rhodesia went UDI because they saw the writing on the wall.

>White genocide and genocide against all blacks who fought for Rhodesia
Neither of these things happened.
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>>35106000
Otherwise the rest of their world picture would be ruined forever.
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It was a really basic farming colony populated by a small amount of English people and a vast amount of Africans.

Because of political realities it had its fate sealed, but the sheer idiocy on the part of its own leader led to things much worse. Ian Smith wasn't a bad person, at all, but he had a fundamentally poor understanding of politics. He also had zero grasp as to the reality of the situation, or what the outcome was going to be. By the time he knew what was going on, he again made a terrible choice. It could have, easily, gone the Kenya route. Or even Botswana. A small, obscure, white minority that controlled everything as it had before and let the Africans play dummy politics. Instead he blew his options and a few years later the whole thing was finished and an actual Communist was now in charge.

Things weren't helped by the general feeling at the time. Colonialism was bad, because the USA said so, and most of American foreign policy from about 1945 to 1975 was making sure that European countries lost control of anything outside Europe and most of the things inside it.

To this day, for whatever reason, American teenage boys confuse the place with South Africa which was an entirely different beast.
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>>35106049
>none of this ever happened
>Genocide Watch has declared the violence against whites in Zimbabwe a stage 5 case.
>5. POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Laws may forbid intermarriage or social interaction. Extremist terrorism targets moderates, intimidating and silencing the center. Moderates from the perpetrators’ own group are most able to stop genocide, so are the first to be arrested and killed. Prevention may mean security protection for moderate leaders or assistance to human rights groups. Assets of extremists may be seized, and visas for international travel denied to them. Coups d’état by extremists should be opposed by international sanctions.
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>>35106097
Whites left in droves and the blacks who had fought for the previous government went elsewhere, but it wasn't a genocide. Ethnic cleansing, sure, but not a genocide.

None of that matters, because the only reason they ended up in that position was because the USA spent thirty years trying to rip away every colony in Africa and Asia from European control.
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Can anybody recommend a good book covering the history of Rhodesia, preferable from colonial days through the downfall of Rhodesia and creation of Zimbabwe?
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>>35105086
>Typical Nazinigger response.
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>>35106572
He isn't wrong, though. Rhodesia had far more economic opportunities than Zimbabwe currently does.
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>>35106000
Because even a stopped clock is correct twice a day
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>>35106572
He is literally correct. If Smith and Mugabe had walked into any township together a few years into Mugabe's regime only one of them would have come out alive and it wouldn't have been uncle Bob.
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>>35105673
the actual population was the whites, the blacks should NEVER have even been considered for power which is what the rhodies did... look at Zimbabwe and tell me the nigger should have been allowed in... and yes i didnt really think about SA but their support, especially towards the end was laughable
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Best i can describe it
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>>35106115
they're pretty much the same thing... both are the systematic removal of people based on race, religion, or other factors
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>>35105296
Rhodesia is polshit and so are you
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>>35107268
>the actual population was the whites, the blacks should NEVER have even been considered for power

Yeah which is just pure racism, and not the paternalistic image people like to put across of them wanting to civilize blacks before sharing power. Hence why they even banned them from getting quality private education.

Not only that but they actively suppressed archeological discoveries that suggested they even had the potential to be civilized.

>look at Zimbabwe and tell me the nigger should have been allowed in

If they kept the previous constitution that would have eventually allowed for equality based on education and wealth then they would have a good argument - for blacks they were effectively a choice between being an impoverished and uneducated disposable source of labour or chance it with Mug.

The great betrayal and the reason it turned to shit was firstly the treachery of the British who allowed mass voter intimidation and violence to be carried out by Mugs party because Governor Soames despite having the power and reports believed if he did anything it would trigger violence (ie was a self serving britcuck)

Secondly the UN and the big two who all of sudden were fine with Mug creating a dictatorship because he was black and used vaguely socialist language.

>yes i didn't really think about SA but their support, especially towards the end was laughable

Dont be silly South Africa was responsible for 33% of all of Rhodesia's Exports and 50% of its imports including crucial resources like oil. Had South Africa chosen to comply with the sanctions Rhodesia wouldn't have lasted even 5 years.
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a great country ruined by communist niggers

RIP
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>>35109282
/k/ and /po/ are the same

keep shilling your bullshit that theyre not the same people, maybe one day itll do something
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>>35107356
Thats 2.76 million US dollars.
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>>35111966
>/k/ and /pol/ are the same
No faggot. I hate /pol users that come onto other boards and spout that shit. You go on /fit all the fucking time and say that. Face the reality that 50% of /pol is short brown people and get the fuck off my boards.
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Rhodesia is shit that's all you need to know
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>>35103455

War is the continuation of politics by other means, etc.

If you did war right, you come out of it better off politically.
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>>35105279
This mighty land will prosper for Rhodesians never die
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>>35111966
Yeah, nah, Fuck off with your bullshit. If /k/ and /pol/ were the same, why has /k/ been telling you faggots to leave and fuck off back to /pol/ for YEARS. I get it, you kids love /pol/ and want to hop onto another board to shitpost and choose /k/ because 'GUNS R KEWL' And might see a slight similarity in interests or a joke and then yall go full retard spouting inane bullshit where it doesnt belong trying to fit in. And since there's so many of you edgy twats going through your angsty teenage phase yall can easily spill over through other boards easily enough. Please, just do everyone else a favor and keep /pol/ in /pol/.
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>Blacks only in Africa!

It's like you fuckers don't even know about the Bantu expansions into SA and Rhodesia

And why can't white people have an African country?
It's not like Turks have Turk guilt for Constantinople
Or Americans need to give all their land back to the Indians
Or Brits back to the celts etc

It's all fucking bullshit and the UN should be burntbto the ground

As well as the US
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>>35114916
Go fuck a rake /leftypol/
No one gives a shit what you think
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>>35115095
And that's exactly why everyone despises you. Yall /pol/tards spill over to other boards, shit places up and if anyone has the audacity of disagreeing with yall or hating yall because /pol/tards act like obnoxious twats, its always jumped "DA JOOZ MINORITY LEFTY KEKS" Instead of an average individual tired of your shit when they don't blindly shove a fist up their own ass listening to your shit. Yall are so far gone in your "us vs them" mentality in /pol/, It's unhealthy. I come to /k/ because I love firearms and military history related type deals, I don't come onto /k/ to listen to angsty teenagers with no concept of the world cry about minorities.
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anyone have that webm cartoon about rhodesia? with dancing mugabe?
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