Is 30-06 powerful enough for anything?

>>35098964
Yes

>>35098967
/thread

>>35098964

powerful enough to penetrate a ribcage.
weak enough to not have to worry too much about neighbors in the next house getting shot over when firing into a ribcage.

Also great for small to medium sized vermin.

>>35098964
It has 200-400 fps on the .308, so yes?

>>35098964
Literally, No.
Practically, Just about.

There is no "anything" round.

>>35098964
Useless, couldn't even kill myself with it.

How is it for cover penetration? I assume it's not enough for modern armored vehicles.

>>35098964
>He doesn't want to penetrate armor

>>35098964
I wouldn't use it on Cape Buffalo, hippos, rhinos, elephants, or lions.

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>>35099007
>There is no "anything" round.

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>>35099196
this is getting kinda specific anon

>>35100523
Just use .243 wssm
Nearly 4300fps

I'm torn between Marlin in .30-30 win and .45-70 govt. How much of an overkill is the .45-70 for central european game like roe deer and boars?

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>>35100517
Smalltime.

>>35100563
>Europe
>30-30
>45-70
Get a .308 faggot

>>35100588
I already have a .308 bolt action rifle, I want to buy a lever action one

>>35100604
.308 lever action

>>35100618
Problem is only lever actions with .308 that are sold here are henrys and those aren't very good from what I have heard

>>35100671
They're good enough, get your hands on a Savage 99C

>>35100517
You can't practically carry 20-30 in a mag. Try again

>>35100618
Lever actions in Spitzer cartridges are quite rare. I know the model 1895 can use them and I believe there's a couple of others but it's not as simple as you make it sound.

>>35100563
They make underpowered loads of 45-70 for smaller stuff. Not so sure about 30-30 though.

45-70 is a good all purpose round for hunting. Contrary to popular belief most hunting shots aren't taking at 500 yards+.

>>35100671
Get outta here with that bullshit, the Long Ranger is a great rifle

>>35098964
No, in the korean war it had problems penetrating the north korean winter coats

>>35100713
No.
That was a claim made about the .30 carbine, and even in that case, it isn't true.

>>35100584
Destroy anything round =/= anything round.

Not practical for infantry, cost, weight, capacity.

You aren't going to find a 50 BMG, Hi-cap, recoil-less, flat trajectory, light, fast, heavy round. I'm sorry it just isn't up for debate.

The laws of physics WILL NOT allow all of these things to exist.

>>35100680
No one list that here either, as I said the only leve arction rifles sold here are marlins and henrys
>>35100699
Most of thew hunting shots here are taken under 100 meters since there are hunting "nests" close to most frequented animal spots and someone will always tip you where to go

>>35100763
Supreme, unadulterated, unadorned, unquestioning, zealous and incurable autism.

>>35100876
Supreme, unadulterated, unadorned, unquestioning, zealous and incurable false sense of self worth.

Unless you have a point or evidence of experience nobody cares what you have to say. Just discuss it instead of sperging out, alright buddy?

Cartridge triangle?

M193 Example
X: Weight (10 Full Mags, ~11lbs) (-)
Y: Power (~1,200 ft/lbs@Muzzle) (+)
Z: Speed (2,300-3,000 ft/s@Muzzle) (+)

No more than 2 variables can be improved on without detracting from atleast 1 other variable.

This means there is no perfect round, only mission specific rounds.

>>35098964
Any animal in North America so...

>>35098964
It's legal to hunt moose with 30-06 here in Sweden.

>>35100736
No I am pretty sure it was the 30-06 and it couldnt penetrate SOME coats ( russian made I think ), my grandfather was a veteran and he told me these things . he would know...

>>35098964
It's powerful enough for literally everything.

>>35098996
W-what? Small to medium sized vermin? You can drop a fucking moose with an aught-six. I swear nobody on this board hasguns except me.

>>35101044
Your grandfather was a shit-talking fudd. Sorry to break it to you.

it'll bounce off your chin, try-it

>>35100671
you heard wrong. also, i bet you can get a browning blr

>>35101044
Unless the Russians had +3 enchanted mythril coats then they're not stopping a fucking .30-06. Why was your presumably American grandfather killing Russians during WW2 anyway? And if he wasn't American, why was he using our bullets?

>>35101084
>didnt refute anything in my post
faggot
>>35101118
>mythril
w/e
>not stopping a fucking .30-06
proof?
>Russian during ww2
It was korea asshole, the norks had russian material shipped to them and coats were among them . Could have been russian special forces he was talking about since they had pilots there aswell but he is no longer with us so I cannot double check...

>>35101069
i shot a squirrel with my 30. AUGHT sexy, and i only found the back half of it.

>>35101180
You gotta hit them in the head. I managed it once, half luck though.

>>35101169
You want proof that a full-sized armor-piercing rifle cartridge can easily penetrate a fucking coat? It's called common fucking sense. M2 ball ammo used during korea cold penetrate 0.4 inches of steel. Gramps was full of shit.

>>35098964

no.

>>35101420
Clint Smith even talks about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YsYYywYFJo

>>35100523
Could it penetrate a school bus?

>>35100468
Lol fag

>5.56
>muh carry capacity
>muh barrier blind
>muh basically the same terminal performance

>>35100693
Why would you need so many? Shot placement faggot. You only need 1 of these monsters.

>>35101096
nope not sold here either and you need arms dealer license to import weapons from abroad

>>35098964
Germans

>>35100563
>central european
>not using 6.5x55 and careful shot placement

Weak bro

>>35100535
Enjoy a barrel life measured in hundreds, not thousands, of rounds.

>>35100671
Henrys are great rifles, it's the price thats a bit of a bitch.

>>35100517
Can CC in hot weather, during activity?

Not for dogmen.

>>35105351
that's like three times as expensive as both .30-30 and .308 win and the gun is about 4 times more expensive than the lever acrions
>>35105375
The price of both henrys and marlins is pretty much same here

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>>35098964
depends on your anything

>>35101180
That sounds about right.

>>35105367
>barrel life meme

>>35098964
If your hunting bigfoot or werewolfs
375 h&h or 338lm and up
Good hunting

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>>35100713
>>35101044
>>35101169
>>35101420

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>>35101069
I reload and I know that the op is bait, but I get the feeling too sometimes.

>>35100584
>BRRRRRRRT intensifies

>>35103223
just asking for a friend, haha

>>35101420
i mean it depends really. the reason kevlar can stop bullets is because the weave is so tight. if you make a coat out of extremely tightly weaved cotton/wool and have enough layers i could see it stopping 30-06

>>35101044
Yeah man, we're gonna need to have a talk about your grandpappy.

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>>35100468
>rhinos
That's because you don't have TR's power level.

>>35101044
Nah man, your grandpa might have gotten his info confused. That fudd-lore was about the 30 Carbine;

>>35107511
Kevlar can stop a pistol round... maybe. You shoot someone wearing kevlar with a 30 cal rifle round and that shit is going straight through them and out their back. You need ceramic/steel plates on top of kevlar to stop rifle rounds and even that doesn't work half the time.

>>35100990
Power is mass x speed, idiot.

>>35101044
Your grandfather is a retard.

>>35098996
"small to medium sized vermin"
lol. Drop a squirrel with a 30.06. Will literally evaporate. it's powerful enough for any ungulate, any big cat. In fact with exception of elephants, Hippos, Rhino's and fucking whales its plenty powerful enough for anything. And it will easily kill those above but lacks the stopping energy of 45-70 for example.

>>35100763
that's a fucking 30mm you asshat

>>35103480
Yes, one shot of it is all you need for your shoulder to dislocate.

>>35100517
choad

>>35100468
Agree.

>>35109835
>with exception of elephants
You absolutely can drop an elephant with 30-06.

>>35098964

I wouldn't use it for trophy hunting in Africa, but if you brought a semi-auto it would probably work.

>>35113795
>magdumping .30-06 into a fucking elephant

Wet dream.